--- Log opened Thu Jul 24 00:00:43 2008
00:02 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFQJS0hEFw0
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00:16 <@someninjamaster> woot is broked
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00:23 <@sasquatc4> aww poop, sold out already
00:25 <@someninjamaster> thats yesterdays
00:30 <@sasquatc4> oh, guess thats why
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00:48 <@sasquatc4> just got a new one in the rss
00:48 <@sasquatc4> 30gb ipod
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02:18 <@coil> oh great now im getting no video on my desktop
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02:31 <@coil> hi
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03:52 <@coil> yay system restore folder has a virus :/
04:00 <@Dagmar> Just be glad it's in that folder and not in your main system.
04:00 <@Dagmar> Suffice it to say, you don't want to use that restore point
04:01 <@Dagmar> ...and it's PROBABLY a good idea to go ahead and boot that fucker in safe mode or using optical media and scan the shit out of the machine
04:01 <@Dagmar> There's more than one bit of malware out there that hides itself in the last system restore point just to make extra sure you can't get it out by rolling back
04:05 <@coil> ahh
04:06 <@coil> i installed avast
04:06 <@coil> it's doing a full scan right now
04:07 <@coil> it also found crack.exe
04:07 <@coil> must of been for avg heh
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05:48 <@Catonic> guten tag
05:51 <@Catonic> get some speed stick -- it's not 'spensive...
05:51 <@Catonic> read a book read a book read a motherfuckin' book...
05:55 < M0j0-j0j0> bok
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06:44 <@ladymerlin> whee
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07:04 <@Shadow404> why is it, all the jobs that seem interesting annd look like somethig that would be challenging and enjoyable, are the low paying ones
07:28 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:29 <@ware> surp
07:30 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch!
07:30 <@Dolemite> what level are you up to now?
07:31 <@ware> 40, 33, 26, 23
07:31 <@Dolemite> You working on leveling up 4?
07:31 <@ware> rogue, mage, shaman, hunter
07:31 <@ware> havent been playin as much lately
07:32 <@Dolemite> I've played about 2 hours this week.
07:32 <@Dolemite> Just been too busy
07:32 <@ware> same
07:42 <@Catonic> Shadow404: You need to redefine how you look at things, and how things look to you.
07:43 <@Catonic> Then again, I find myself at odds with my own statement. I have a low-paying job, and endless challenge. And I relish it -- if I manage to finish what I am working on, my resume is gonna be killer.
07:43 < sdodson_> pickle relish tastes good
07:44 <@Shadow404> Catonic: so true man, so true
07:44 <@ware> relish these nuts, fags
07:44 <@ware> Catonic: get a job hoser
07:44 <@Shadow404> ware: i got scotchicks and my hunter up to 38 last night
07:45 <@Shadow404> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&n=Shadowkaster
07:45 < sdodson_> wow, that's soooo deep man, far out
07:46 <@ware> fail.
07:46 <@Shadow404> fail?
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07:57 <@Dolemite> what, you two are sharing a toon and you haven't gotten past level 38 yet?
08:00 <@Catonic> Speeding tickets are much harder to get when you're driving 10 mph under the speed limit on the interstate, and you're getting the high-end of the gas milage for your car.
08:02 <@Catonic> looks like if I keep my foot out of it, I can get 420 miles a tank instead of 300. w00tage.
08:02 <@Dolemite> that's pretty good
08:02 <@Dolemite> possibly
08:02 <@Catonic> (sadly, if you drive a caprice "right" you can get 400-500 miles a tank)
08:02 <@Dolemite> depends on how big your tank it
08:02 <@Dolemite> er, is
08:02 <@Catonic> about 15 gallons
08:02 <@Dolemite> so about 25 MPG +/-
08:03 <@Catonic> I think the previous owner got 27-29.
08:03 <@Dolemite> I used to get that with my Buick Electra 380
08:03 <@Catonic> though I will never drive another automatic as long as I live.
08:03 <@Dolemite> That was a nice, pimptastic car.
08:08 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: no, we are playing a toon each
08:08 <@Shadow404> her toon is idril
08:09 <@Shadow404> only been playing a few nights a week
08:12 <@Catonic> says 18-26 for the car... the caprice was 17-26, but 17 was stretching it a bit. After a few years of wear, it was down to 15mpg, and finished at 13mph city / 17 mpg highway (at 70+ mph, often 90).
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08:21 <@Catonic> Dolemite: what year was the 380?
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08:35  * Catonic goes wandering north
08:37 <@ware> yay, patching dns servers
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08:38 <@Dolemite> Catonic : It was a 1986
08:40 <@Shadow404> ware: man, you slow, should of done that weeks ago
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08:42 <@ware> i aint be caring
08:42 <@ware> mine and my clients use opendns's
08:42 <@ware> i be xploitin
08:42 <@ware> ur myspacez
08:43 <@Shadow404> heh, i could care less, barely use myspace or any of its derivatives
08:43 <@ware> CoA
08:44 <@ware> Cock on Ass
08:44 <@ware> F-D dropped a MSF for it
08:46 <@tzanger> bleh
08:46 <@tzanger> root certificates update won't install
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09:52 <@brimstone> what's the most supported linux distro? for servers
09:52 <@brimstone> say I have a faulty network card, who would determine that the fastest given access to the system?
09:52 <@brimstone> what has everyone seen at their jobs?
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09:55 <@brimstone> SkyDog_: nothing about the worth1000 on the pn12 site
09:57 <@Shadow404> i'd tell ya but tis not allowed
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10:02 <@dc0de> good Mr0nin se2600
10:04 <@Evilpig> brimstone: redhat
10:04 <@brimstone> i didn't see where you could buy support from redhat
10:04 <@brimstone> at least, it wasn't obvious on their website
10:04 <@brimstone> i didn't call though
10:05 <@Evilpig> it isn't obvious?  that is their main selling point
10:05 <@Evilpig> I have only heard of support on RHEL4,5  and SLES9,10
10:06 <@Evilpig> https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/server/
10:09 <@nachoguy> in asterisk, from the console, is there a way to find out how long each of the active calls have been connected for?
10:11 <@brimstone> show channel SIP/foo-1234
10:11 <@brimstone> i think
10:11 <@brimstone> it's a show something
10:11 <@brimstone> well, core show channel i guess
10:11 <@nachoguy> I found it
10:11 <@nachoguy> the verbose flag
10:11 <@nachoguy> show channels verbose
10:12 <@nachoguy> err, yeah, core ...
10:13 <@nachoguy> it even sorts by duration
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10:33 <@nachoguy> yay, had a  500 hour long call
10:33 <@nachoguy> that's a fuckup somewhere
10:33 <@brimstone> mhmm those are fun
10:34 <@Shadow404> wow, 21 days straight
10:34 <@Shadow404> dont you ever sleep?
10:34 <@brimstone> do you ever nap during conf calls?
10:34 <@Shadow404> i do
10:34 <@Shadow404> got cut once, cause i started snoring
10:34 <@Shadow404> but they didnt find out who
10:42 <@tzanger> ugh
10:42 <@tzanger> wife refuses to believe she can't communicate
10:42 <@tzanger> "be a husband or hit the road" <-- is that a suggestion or a demand?
10:45 <@ware> rofl
10:46 <@ware> BACKHAND HER AND TELL HER TO GET HER BITCH ASS BACK IN THE FUCKING KITCHEN
10:46 <@ware> AND TO SHUT THAT LIP OR YOURE GONNA MAKE IT FAT AGAIN
10:46 <@brimstone> tzanger: it's proof
10:46 <@dc0de> tzanger, hit the road.
10:47 <@ware> ITS TIEM FOR DROPKICKS TO TEH FOURHED THNX!@!@#!!!!!
10:47 <@ware> ITS TIEM FOR DROPKICKS TO TEH FOURHED THNX!@!@#!!!!!
10:47 <@ware> ITS TIEM FOR DROPKICKS TO TEH FOURHED THNX!@!@#!!!!!
10:47 <@ware> ITS TIEM FOR DROPKICKS TO TEH FOURHED THNX!@!@#!!!!!
10:48 <@ware> amirite?
10:48 <@Shadow404> na, can be bothered to kick you
10:48 <@Shadow404> to much effort
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10:48 <@ware> too*
10:49 <@Shadow404> fuck off
10:49  * ware signs Shadow404 up for remedial highschool engrish
10:49 <@tzanger> heh
10:49 <@ware> :P
10:49 <@Shadow404> you need more help than me, but not in the english dept.
10:49 <@ware> tzanger: i was just joking
10:49 <@tzanger> no shit :-)
10:49 <@ware> tzanger: your wife is always right
10:49 <@ware> i thought you would have figured that out by now
10:49 <@dc0de> tzanger, if you want to stay married, go to a marriage counselor...
10:50 <@Shadow404> and waste thousands of dollars
10:50 <@ware> make her sign a slave contract
10:50 <@dc0de> nothing says I love you, and want to be with you, like spending shittons of money, to make your wife understand you.
10:50 <@ware> hahaha
10:50 <@dc0de> Shadow404, actually, it works.
10:50 <@Shadow404> ware: thats in my pre-nuptuials
10:51 <@dc0de> if you spend $2,000 on counseling, and it works out, didn't you just save half of your net worth? It's a risk management issue.
10:51 <@Shadow404> lheh, lawl, nice viewpoint
10:51 <@dc0de> stop thinking about RIGHT NOW, and think about the long haul...
10:51 <@dc0de> tzanger, is she a lady in public and a slut in the bedroom?
10:52 <@dc0de> if so, go spend the $$ on counseling.  Otherwise, open an offshore cayman account today, and start moving assets and monies..
10:52 <@Shadow404> heh, god knows i have
10:52 <@Shadow404> ...just in case
10:52 <@dc0de> take it from some of us who have been divorced... it's not fun, it's not easy, and it makes you embittered.
10:53 <@Shadow404> oh and if you marry a foriegn chick, you can always hit the road to a new country
10:53 <@dc0de> oh, and talk about spending $$, the lawyers are the only ones who "win" in a divorce.
10:54 <@Evilpig> dc0de: she wins to
10:54 <@Evilpig> you're really the only loser
10:55 <@dc0de> Evilpig, actually, with my first wife, we both had to sell the house, at a loss, to split it, and the monies we made from the liquidation of the remainder of our joint assets went to pay the legal bills, so she was left with about the same as I was, $3,000 US.
10:55 <@dc0de> although she did get custody of our daughter.
10:55 <@rhia> could ask her what she thinks "be a husband" means ... unless she HAS been telling you that and you haven't listened/heard her ... which is where dc0de's suggestion of counseling comes in
10:55 <@dc0de> which I'm still bitter about.
10:56 <@dc0de> rhia, agreed...
10:56 <@oddball> huh... I spend most of the morning at the Lebanon office, get back, and there are no emails waiting for me.
10:56 <@dc0de> tzanger, my point is, don't come in here and rant about it, if you're really not going to do anything.
10:56 <@rhia> people communicate in various ways, not just between male & female, but w/in the sexes too
10:56 <@dc0de> doing nothing, will certainly make the relationship fail.
10:56 <@oddball> Guess it's a day of flash games for me!
10:56 <@brimstone> oddball: tower defense!
10:56 <@Shadow404> woot, me too
10:56 <@Shadow404> confrence calls all this morning
10:57 <@Shadow404> thats what ive ben doing and creatin stupid graphs for fun
10:57 <@nachoguy> oddball: flesh games?
10:57 <@dc0de> tzanger, my main point is "Shit or get off the Pot!", Do something.  Either say you're going to work on the relationship, or cut your losses and move on.
10:57 <@Shadow404> scroll to bottom: http://bigblue.homeftp.net/downtime.html
10:57 <@dc0de> life is too short to be unhappy.
10:57 <@tzanger> yeah I hear ya
10:57 <@oddball> nachoguy: unfortunately, this is a faith-based company
10:57 <@dc0de> anyway, my rant is over, I have to go do password recovery on a Tipping point IPS.
10:57 <@dc0de> bblater.
10:58 <@nachoguy> oddball, have faith in the power of flesh =>
11:01 <@Evilpig> just had a configure script crash out and I noticed this check in there. "checking for backside with both hands... no
11:04 <@oddball> and you thought "oh... that can't be good..."
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11:04 <@Evilpig> I just thought it was amusing
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11:06  * oddball tries to remember which man page ends with "This command has Super Cow Powers"
11:06 <@tzanger> dpkg
11:06 <@brimstone> apt?
11:06 <@Evilpig> debating on leaving reinstalling dansguardian or putting squidguard on this
11:06 <@Evilpig> squidguard lacks bypass powers.  dansguardian has that though
11:07 <@brimstone> apt-get moo
11:08 <@ware> CAN I GET A DROPKICK
11:08 <@brimstone> WeeChat Error: unknown command "dropkick"
11:08 <@ware> /alias dropkick /kick ware DROPKICK!
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11:08 <@Evilpig> 11:08 -!- Irssi: Alias dropkick added
11:08 <@oddball> Sorry, it's the --help file, and it's apt-get
11:08 <@ware> :P
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11:09 <@Evilpig> had to
11:09  * ware feels like the days of old!
11:09 <@brimstone> aptitude moo
11:09 <@ware> que es moo?
11:09 <@brimstone> This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.
11:09 <@oddball> I was looking for a flag one day, and Naienko commented "wait.... did that say it had Super Cow Powers?"
11:10 <@oddball> and this is one of the reasons I love linux
11:12 <@Evilpig> how much should an avi compress?
11:12 <@Evilpig> zipped
11:12 <@brimstone> like, nothing
11:32 <@remoford> Evilpig: but if you then turn around and zip that zip ...
11:32 <@brimstone> or if you bzip that tar of a zip including the rar of the avi...
11:33 <@remoford> lrzip ftw!
11:33 <@remoford> no seriously, lrzip kicks serious ass
11:34 -!- remoford is now known as serious
11:34 <@oddball> Some folks here have to deal with a company that insists on zipping things twice
11:35 <@serious> thats unfortunate, what company?
11:37 <@Corydon76-dig> eclassical sometimes does that to me
11:38 <@Corydon76-dig> but I understand why... some collections are packaged as zip files, and since my purchase includes multiple, they use another zip to package all the selections together into one download
11:46 <@oddball> I don't remember, some medical billing company I think
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11:46 <@oddball> See, I understand zipping a bunch of zip files together... this is zipping 1 zip file
11:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
11:47 <@oddball> well, lunch time.
12:05 <@rhia> http://www.overheardeverywhere.com/archives/003654.html
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12:13 <@Evilpig> I have a 1.5GB avi that I want to move around but I only have a 1GB thumbdrive.  guess I just need to plug into the network for a bit and fix it up
12:15 <@ware> compress0r
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12:19 <@tzanger> heh
12:19 <@tzanger> xp sp3 update fucked automatic updates
12:19 <@Evilpig> how this time?
12:20 <@tzanger> dunno
12:20 <@tzanger> found the solution though
12:20 <@tzanger> http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:ysbwqJq16T4J:www.itexperience.net/2008/05/23/automatic-updates-fail-after-installation-of-windows-xp-sp3/+windows+xp+automatic+updates+fail+domain&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1
12:21 <@tzanger> seems to be working for me
12:21 <@tzanger> regsvr /s a half dozen dlls
12:21 <@tzanger> and it magically seems to work
12:21 <@Evilpig> that wasn't sp3
12:21 <@nachoguy> evilpig, zip/tar and break into 700 meg chunks
12:21 <@Evilpig> that happened prior to sp3 anyhow
12:22 <@Evilpig> any number of things will break the registration of the windows update dlls
12:22 <@Evilpig> i've seen antivirus do that
12:22 <@Evilpig> nachoguy: that's what I was in the middle of doing.  but just zip not zip and tar
12:22 <@tzanger> I have no antivirus yet
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12:23 <@tzanger> Evilpig: I believe it was, at least here... all the PCs I brought up to SP3 won't au anymore
12:24 <@Evilpig> do you have a filter / webaccelerator in place like squid?
12:24 <@Evilpig> have you tried the old trick of https://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
12:25 <@Evilpig> the secure site has better luck sometimes when you have a proxy in place that caches the wrong data
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12:43 <@timoguin> ware: the madonna cd you requested will be done downloading in a minute.
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12:44 <@ware> SSH!!!
12:44 <@timoguin> secure shell?
12:44 <@ware> Shut the Shit Hoe!
12:44 <@timoguin> oh
12:45 <@timoguin> sorry.  i didn't know you didn't want anyone to know that you like madonna
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12:45 <@timoguin> i fail at writing sentences
12:45 <@ware> you fail at *
12:45 <@timoguin> i don't know much about voip stuff
12:55 <@nachoguy> Evilpig sorry, zip/tar was an meant to be "either zip or tar" thing
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13:22 <@coil> hi
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13:40 <@coil> hahahahaha
13:40 <@coil> ^5 Catonic
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13:40 <@ware> ROFL OMG FTW
13:41 <@ware> uh oh
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13:41 <@ware> HSV crew is down lol
13:41 <@ware> and back!
13:41 <@coil> stfu
13:41 <@I-MOD> someone broke the hell out of some tubes
13:41 <@Catonic> I-MOD: oh?
13:41 <@coil> damn comcast and their packet shaping
13:41 <@ware> bramelstump
13:42 <@Catonic> I-MOD: details.
13:42 <@I-MOD> no idea
13:43 <@Catonic> I-MOD: whose intartubes are fux0rr3d?
13:43 <@I-MOD> something upstream
13:44 <@Catonic> I-MOD: is it over metro-e?
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13:44 <@Shadow404> we are fine
13:45 <@Catonic> $employer and $relative's employer both had a network burp at the same time, and they are on metro-e.
13:45 <@Catonic> which makes me think that at&t let the cracksmoking monkeys out of sales and into the CO again.
13:46 <@coil> they did
13:46 <@I-MOD> yes
13:46 <@coil> they have a lot of those
13:46 <@I-MOD> i'm pretty sure we are
13:46 <@coil> used to be one
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13:52 <@Shadow404> not seeing any thing from here
14:00 <@coil> of course not Shadow404
14:00 <@coil> it's never your prblem
14:01 <@Shadow404> please contact your isp
14:01 <@coil> i dont have one
14:01 <@coil> they're all evil
14:03 <@Catonic> yeah... this either looks like a metro-e failure or a border router ate it
14:03 <@critch> did anyone read the software patent article from /.?
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14:11 <@coil> Shadow404: you wanna come to my ircd?
14:11 <@Shadow404> sure
14:12 <@coil> anyone else is invited too.
14:14 <@ware> coil.is.a.fag.dicksu.ck:6667
14:15 <@coil> yep
14:15 <@coil> howd you know
14:15 <@someninjamaster> haha
14:15 <@ware> Shadow404 told me
14:15 <@coil> ahh
14:15 <@coil> well he got the port wrong
14:16 <@ware> 6969*
14:16 <@coil> 6679*
14:17 <@Catonic> I-MOD: thks btw
14:19 <@coil> kthx
14:20 <@ware> F'N DNS SERVER ARARWPHFDAPSDF_#FU@J$Q_UJ#$f
14:20 <@coil> ufail
14:21 <@Shadow404> heh, fail
14:21 <@ware> now the monkeys want to talk?
14:21 <@ware> you fucking button pusher
14:21 <@ware> and pizza flipper
14:21 <@ware> stfu
14:22 <@ware> yes i would like fries with that
14:22 <@ware> fucking cocksuckers
14:22 <@coil> lol
14:22 <@coil> no i do pc hardware
14:23 <@Shadow404> haha
14:23 <@Shadow404> fix your dns
14:23 <@Shadow404> eta please
14:23 <@coil> who
14:24 <@Shadow404> ware
14:24 <@ware> oh sorry its not mine, its for 1000+ dsl customers thnx stfu
14:24 <@coil> ufail
14:25 <@coil> cool
14:25 <@coil> steam is defragging my files
14:25 <@coil> game files
14:25 <@Shadow404> yea, makes it load faster and play faster
14:25 <@Shadow404> good design
14:26 <@coil> never seen that before
14:26 <@Shadow404> when a game is over 4gb in content
14:26 <@ware> .c
14:26 <@ware> cant you take this homo chat to your gay server?
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14:26 <@Shadow404> why is it gay? cause it has better up time?
14:27 <@ware> up in your ass, im sure
14:27 <@Shadow404> at least we can admin
14:27 <@ware> according to?
14:27 <@ware> yourself?
14:27 <@Shadow404> well, look at the uptime for both servers
14:27 <@Shadow404> coil: please provide
14:27 <@ware> gg self signed cert, you remember our conversation about that? when you were fucking clueless?
14:27 <@ware> mah bad
14:28 <@ware> dun mean to insult
14:28 <@coil> well i just moved my server to the hsop
14:28 <@ware> brb let u admin now thnx
14:28 <@ware> brb let u admin now thnx
14:28 <@ware> brb let u admin now thnx
14:28 <@ware> brb let u admin now thnx
14:28 <@ware> brb let u admin now thnx
14:28 <@coil> so it doesn't have good uptime
14:28 <@Shadow404> ware: stop closing your server when you have a period, jeez
14:28 <@ware> OH tell em about your ftp server i kept crashing
14:28 <@coil>  2:28PM  up 2 days, 22:01, 3 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
14:28 <@ware> since ur admin skilz r so leet
14:29 <@coil> nice load
14:29 <@Shadow404> crashing, that was me crashing it and i had it redesigned within 2 hours
14:30 <@ware> haha k
14:30 <@Shadow404> turn your ircd back on ware and stop being a baby
14:30 <@ware> no
14:30 <@coil> no stay on mine
14:30 <@ware> yall contribute shit
14:30 <@coil> before i oper you
14:30 <@Shadow404> ware: contribute shit? excuse me, i was trying to get you to cluster it recursively
14:31 <@ware> e.a.t...b.a.l.l.s.!
14:32 <@Shadow404> real constructive there ware
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14:33 <@coil> HELO I NEED PANTS
14:33 <@ware> w.o.u.l.d...y.o.u...l.i.k.e...f.o.r...m.e...t.o...c.o.n.s.t.r.u.c.t..
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14:33 <@ware> .a...p.a.p.e.r...d.i.c.k...f.o.r...y.o.u...t.o...s.u.c.k.?
14:33 <@ware> w.o.u.l.d...y.o.u...l.i.k.e...f.o.r...m.e...t.o...c.o.n.s.t.r.u.c.t..
14:33 <@ware> .a...p.a.p.e.r...d.i.c.k...f.o.r...y.o.u...t.o...s.u.c.k.?
14:34 <@Shadow404> hopefully if we just let him get out all his random thoughts, he'll have nothing else to say
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14:35 <@coil> i need to pay rent before iget eveicted
14:35 <@coil> let me go ask roommates wheres the money
14:45 <@Catonic> Shadow404: Now I just want to lock him in a room with Dagmar until one of them explodes.
14:45 <@Catonic> I'm taking 3:1 odds on ware
14:45 <@Catonic> even though he has a zero percent chance of survival.
14:50 <@coil> lol
14:57 <@Shadow404> agreed
14:57 <@Shadow404> it would probably do him some good actually
15:14 <@coil> Shadow404: lets play tf2
15:14 <@coil> cuz i know ur not doing work
15:15 <@Shadow404> heh, atm now, im not busy
15:15 <@Shadow404> but i am not teleworking today
15:15 <@Shadow404> im at the office ftl
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15:32 <@Shadow404> Catonic: that metroe thing is effecting some miami clients
15:32 < M0j0-j0j1> bok
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15:41 <@Evilpig> wtf is with you three?  are you sharing brain cells now?
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15:47 <@coil> Evilpig: o.o
15:50 <@aestetix> hey
15:50 <@aestetix> http://amd.hope.net/media.php
15:50 <@aestetix> we're uploading some of the videos
16:10 <@polerin> I wish more people took the time to grok the products they use instead of trying to break the damn things to enforce a messed up view of how it should work
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16:14  * ShadowHntr stares at a screen with a system stress test running on his new server
16:18 <@coil> Shadow404:
16:18 <@coil> ubuntu died on me
16:18 <@ShadowHntr> lol
16:18 <@ShadowHntr> ubuntu's for n00bs. ;)
16:18 <@coil> ya ya whatever
16:19 <@coil> it's a pos is what it is
16:19 <@ShadowHntr> lol
16:26 <@coil> Shadow404: opensolaris good for desktop?
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> sure you
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> 're asking 404?
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> i don't see why not
16:27 <@coil> oh not Shadow404 he's lame
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16:27 <@coil> i was talking to ShadowHntr
16:27 <@coil> does it have compiz?
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> um... not sure
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> don't think so
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> but you can try it out on the livecd
16:28 <@ShadowHntr> opensolaris.com
16:28 <@coil> will it support my phemon?
16:28 <@ShadowHntr> yes
16:28 <@ShadowHntr> it'll run in 64-bit mode
16:28 <@ShadowHntr> :]
16:28 <@coil> i have the burned cd somewhere around here
16:28 <@coil> well i guess i need to download the 64 bit version then :P
16:28 <@ShadowHntr> no
16:29 <@ShadowHntr> it's on the same cd image
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16:29 <@ShadowHntr> it automatically picks the appropriate arch
16:29 <@coil> oh
16:29 <@coil> well then
16:29 <@ShadowHntr> 64 vs. 32-bit
16:29 <@coil> i need to find the cd
16:29 <@ShadowHntr> cool
16:29 <@ShadowHntr> i'm going to *try* to put openSUSE 11.0 on this athlon server
16:29 <@coil> but now my files
16:29 <@coil> are on ext3
16:29 <@ShadowHntr> but it hangs in weird places
16:30 <@coil> well i found the opensuse cd i burned apparently
16:30 <@coil> i knew i tried out opensolaris on my server
16:30 <@coil> not sure where i put the cd
16:38 < dc0de1> coil: did you check the cd tray?
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16:41 <@critch> ShadowHntr: if it hangs in weird places, try checking the memory, and/or cpu clocking.
16:41 <@coil> no dc
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> yeah memory tests are next on my list
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> after this hard disk diagnostic finishes.
16:41 <@coil> Shadow404: you doing cpuburn?
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16:41 <@ShadowHntr> no
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> Eurosoft PC-Check
16:41 <@coil> wat that
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> www.eurosoft-uk.com
16:42 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.eurosoft-uk.com/vpc_check.htm
16:42 <@ShadowHntr> commercial pc diagnostic tool
16:44 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: http://varsityshops.net/belmont
16:47 <@aestetix> did anyone watch the videos?
16:48 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig: *ping*
16:54 <@Corydon76-dig> pong
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17:12 <@ware> homoland
17:12 <@brimstone> jesusland?
17:13 <@ware> jesusland!
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17:14 < ware> whoa shit
17:14 < ware> my bad
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17:14 < ware> OH HAI MIRAGE!
17:15 <@Mirage> heya. forgot I flipped the wrong breaker and killed the server last night when I installed the new eiling fan
17:16 <@juice> any c gurus here?
17:16 <@Mirage> Need another UPS..current one chokes on the 600W ps in the rebuilt server.
17:16 < ware> juice: brimstone and Corydon76-dig are teh coders
17:16 <@Mirage> c is for cookie?
17:16 < ware> NOM NOM NOM NOM
17:17 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: whatcha need?
17:17 <@juice> okay
17:17 <@juice> Corydon76-dig, www.sourceforge.net/projects/darkbot
17:17 <@juice> or wait
17:17 <@brimstone> c?
17:18 <@juice> is it okay to download something
17:18 <@juice> or you rather view it in viewcvs
17:18 <@juice> ?
17:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Why don't you just ask the question, first?
17:18 <@Corydon76-dig> ViewVC, btw
17:18 <@juice> okay I have a command and it isn't accepting spaces for the info
17:19 <@juice> like !setinfo
17:19 <@juice> you can add a sentence
17:19 <@juice> but it only reads out the test til the first space
17:19 < ware> !setinfo nutsinass
17:19 < ware> ~nutsinass
17:19 <@juice> in the line in the file
17:19 <+MxZBot> ware: Can you run that by me again?
17:19 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: are you quoting it?
17:19 < ware> ~google for nutsinass
17:19 <@juice> i have no idea I don't code c
17:19 <+MxZBot> Google says nutsinass is at http://www.badongo.com/vid/156296 or http://www.blogtelevision.net/p/Videos-Watch-a-Video___1,2,,72059.html or http://www.dickscab.com/nutsinass/
17:19 <@juice> is why I was asking
17:20 <@juice> need the you to see the code
17:20 <@juice> err
17:20 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: no, I meant are you quoting the command line where you want the spaces?
17:20 <@juice> okay here is what happens
17:20 <@juice> !setinfo Pain is just pain..
17:20 <@juice> <highest> 2!(SIRavecavec): Pain
17:20 <@juice> it only says the first word
17:21 <@juice> however the entire line is saved to the file
17:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Try !setinfo "Pain is just pain"
17:21 <@juice> oops
17:21 <@juice> my bad
17:21 <@juice> it only remembers the first word
17:21 <@juice> okay sec
17:22 <@juice> <juice_> !setinfo "juice is testing"
17:22 <@Corydon76-dig> If it's using a standard parser, then quoting it will cause the entire sentence, spaces and all, to be treated as a single argument
17:22 <@juice> <highest> 2!(juice_): "juice
17:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
17:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Show me the viewvc then
17:24 <@juice> http://darkbot.cvs.sourceforge.net/darkbot/darkbot/beta/source/chansrv.c?revision=1.50&view=markup
17:24 <@juice> look for setinfo
17:24 <@juice> truct chanserv_output *chanserv_setinfo(char *source, char *target, char *cmd, char **args, enum chanserv_invoke_type invoked, char *userhost)
17:24 <@juice> truct=struct
17:24 <@juice> that is that part
17:24 <@juice> then it reads and writes this file
17:25 <@juice> http://darkbot.cvs.sourceforge.net/darkbot/darkbot/beta/dat/userlist.db?revision=1.7&view=markup
17:25 <@juice> the part after password
17:25 <@juice> is the setinfo line
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17:30 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: It's a really rudimentary parser.  It needs some help
17:30 <@Corydon76-dig> For one thing, it's using strtok()
17:31 <@juice> okay
17:31 <@juice> I figured the parse needed changed
17:31 <@Corydon76-dig> It should probably be using strsep, for one
17:31 <@juice> this code is older and been having a couple work on updating it
17:31 <@brimstone> and not C for another
17:31 <@juice> but they been busy
17:31 <@juice> brimstone, :P
17:31 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: if you want a bot, use Eggdrop
17:31 <@juice> nah
17:32 <@brimstone> or right your own :D
17:32 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: Eggdrop is probably the reason why someone abandoned work on this
17:32 <@juice> I admin this project :P
17:32 <@juice> I just don't code c
17:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, riiiiight
17:33 <@juice> umm work isn't abandoned, it's on hold because ron and onefang haven't had much time to continue with it
17:50 <@coil> oh great
17:50 <@coil> computer going down again
17:50 <@coil> shell is :/
17:50 <@brimstone> like a $2 whore
17:50 <@coil> well 10 mins it's going down
17:51 <@coil> System going down in 10 minutes
17:51 <@coil> Reboot for updates, see email -bryan
17:51 <@brimstone> must be a kernel update
17:51 <@coil> what email and who the hell is bryan
17:51 <@coil> lol
17:51 <@coil> they rebooted this morning brimstone !
17:51 <@coil> and they're doing it again? ;/
17:51 <@brimstone> wow, lots of updates?
17:51 <@coil> it's fbsd 7
17:51 <@coil> how can tehre be that many updates
17:52 <@brimstone> like this!
17:52 <@coil> o
17:52  * brimstone kicks coil's legs out from under him
17:52 <@coil> man tf2 is hard
17:52 <@coil> i suck
17:52 <@brimstone> omg are you playing?
17:52 <@coil> what map is the best
17:52 <@brimstone> i wanna play i wanna play
17:52 <@brimstone> 2fort, duh
17:52 <@coil> i've been playing that one thing
17:52 <@coil> where you push the cart
17:52 <@brimstone> yeah, there's a few like that
17:53 <@coil> i sotped playing
17:53 <@coil> i thought my roommates came home
17:53 <@coil> i guess not...
17:53 <@coil> i missed out on work today
17:55 <@coil> 5 mins
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18:13 <@scort> well it looks like shell isn't gonna come back anytime soon
18:13 <@scort> there was a ddos attack this morning and caused fbsd to lock up apparently
18:28 < sdodson_> scort: OH NO!
18:28 < sdodson_> DDOS from where?
18:28 <@scort> dunno
18:29 <@scort> im thinking his, "who'd i piss off?"
18:29 <@scort> this*
18:29 < sdodson_> scort: Me!
18:29 < sdodson_> I bet it was Shadow404
18:29 <@scort> inorite
18:30 <@scort> it got ddosed at 6am today
18:30 <@scort> wow, so like right after i went to be
18:30 <@scort> bed
18:30 <@scort> im sure it is my fault
18:31 < sdodson_> scort: duh
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18:32 <@coil> back up
18:32 <@coil> yaaaaaaaaaaaay
18:32 <@brimstone> plz.donthack.us
18:32 <@coil> inorite
18:32 < sdodson_> http://onefewer.com/ <-- stupid
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18:33 <@coil> ya we know sdodson_
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18:35  * sdodson_ cock punches ware 
18:35  * dc0de covers his crotch
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18:41 <@brimstone> sdodson_: plz give me back my default route
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18:48 < sdodson_> brimstone: what'd I do?
18:49 <@coil> ur mom
18:50 < ware> werd up
18:50 <@coil> oh crap
18:50 <@coil> the power is out at the shop
18:50 <@coil> but my serer is still online :)
18:50 < ware> from ware
18:50 < ware> lulz
18:51 < ware> peenface
18:51 <@coil> no
18:51 < ware> yes
18:51 <@coil> i dont get it though
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18:51 <@coil> how the hell is the internet still on...when it's not hooked up toa ups
18:51 < AstralSin> magick
18:51 <@coil> well the router isn't hooked up to ups
18:51 <@coil> so wtf
18:52 <@brimstone> herm, my nm-applet disappeared
18:52 <@ware> degraded raid.
18:52 <@ware> fugg.
18:52 <@coil> brimstone: that's happened to me
18:52 <@coil> and my roommate
18:52 <@coil> it's buggy
18:52 <@coil> and it's annoying when it keeps asking for the network key
18:52 <@brimstone> this is the first problem i've had with it since i installed
18:52 <@coil> well ubuntu sux
18:52 <@ware> nm-applet is for noobs
18:53 <@coil> no nm-applet is handy
18:53 <@ware> i dunno wth it is
18:53 <@ware> so stfu
18:53 <@ware> n3td3v wannab
18:53 <@coil> why do you always talk shit
18:53 <@ware> i dont talk shit
18:53 <@ware> if i said, 'coil is a homo fag pan'
18:53 <@ware> that wouldnt be talkin shit
18:53 <@ware> its the truth
18:53 <@coil> YOU FUCKING SAID THAT TODAY
18:53 <@ware> if you cant handle it then gtfothnx
18:54 <@ware> hahahaha
18:54 <@ware> cause im a pissed off little man
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18:54 <@coil> ...
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19:02 <@coil> i guess ware doesn't know about the chanserv unban
19:02 <@coil> cuz he's a fucking noob.
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19:02 <@ware> coil: no fagass, i dont have level access to do it
19:02 <@coil> cuz ur a noooooooooooooooooooooob.
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19:20 <@aestetix> SkyDog_: ping
19:24 <+eryc> http://www.break.com/index/awesome-treadmill-ownage.html
19:30 < sdodson_> I hate stupid shit like that.
19:30 < sdodson_> "Hey, what dumbass thing could we do to get a lot of youtube videos?"
19:31 < sdodson_> I think I punctured my tire
19:36 <+eryc> i wrecked my car tuesday
19:36 <+eryc> totaled but im fixing it anyway
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19:48 < sdodson_> eryc: how?
19:49 <@someninjamaster> pics??
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20:15 <@rhia> eryc: details, if you please .... are you ok or are you posting from a bed, wrapped in bandages and wracked with morphine?
20:17 <@rhia> inquiring minds need to know!!
20:18  * dc0de passes rhia an ice cream cone... 
20:18 <@dc0de> hey rhia
20:18  * rhia waves aat dc0de 
20:18 <@rhia> at
20:19 <@rhia> damn rented fingers....
20:19 <@dc0de> rhia; I haven't been able to type well for about a month...
20:19  * dc0de wonders if he had a mini-stroke
20:20 < sdodson_> ware #ware?
20:20 <@someninjamaster> i thought it was always a ministroke when you do it
20:20 <@someninjamaster> oh you mean like a stroke stroke
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20:43 < AstralSin> anyone got any tips for creating a chrooted ftp server in centos?
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20:47 <@rhia> eh, dc0de suffers from foggism like I do ... the fingers know what to do,  but occasionally forget wtf they're doing...
20:47 <@dc0de> yeah, I'm using a typing tutor to re-gen my typing foo
20:48 <@rhia> and all you young critters are doomed, i tell you, DOOMED to follow, muhahahha
20:48  * rhia hugs dc0de in an effort to keep both of us old fogies upright ;)
20:49 <@dc0de> heh... thanks
20:50 <@rhia> eh, them young'uns just don't unnnetstan the hardships we've been thru... the 300 baud modems...
20:51 <@rhia> the tape drives...
20:52 <@rhia> the 16K of RAM
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20:53 <@dc0de> the IBM Selectrix II typewriters
20:54 <@dc0de> the stair stepped manual royal typewriters
20:54 <@rhia> the tweaking autoexec.bat config.sys, ... forgive us, win.ini ...
20:54 <@dc0de> loading TRS-DOS and BASIC II from cassette tape
20:54 <@brimstone> werd
20:56 <@rhia> btw. i tweaked and fiddled the above to make my old 286 play the version of Mech Warrior ONLY available on the 486 ... but, we is old,... and tired
20:56 <@dc0de> dare we forget using actual carbon paper?
20:58 <@rhia> i kind of miss tweakng those files on 5.1/4 floppy floppies.....  where does this memory acquisition go?
20:58 <@dc0de> rhia; I remember a private in the army brought me a 5.25" floppy, that he had folded in 1/2 and put in his cargo pocket.
20:59 <@rhia> hwhwhwh
20:59 <@dc0de> needless to day, it was a lost.
20:59 <@dc0de> *loss
21:00 <@rhia> I had 3 of the "i keep the latest company info on the floppy that i store on the frig under the puppy magnet" wonders
21:00 <@dc0de> heh
21:02 <@rhia> shall we walk off into the sunset together? or. we bst g0 nw rprt lk ovs?
21:03 <@polerin> for some reason I read that as ovalquick.  which isn't even even close
21:03 <@rhia> ya know, our language is actually rather full... shame that TX msg has reduced it to the lowest common denominator of spelling and grammar...
21:04 <@polerin> mph
21:04 <@polerin> I don't view it that way
21:04 <@rhia> er, TXT, that is ... damned old fogie fingers <g>
21:04  * rhia hugs polerin 
21:04 <@polerin> If it's used in a setting that's not appropriate for that section of language yeah
21:05 <@polerin> but really I view it as a dialect
21:05 <@rhia> which is why none of the above is aimed towards you <g>
21:05  * polerin is ker-hugged
21:05 <@polerin> hi you :)
21:06 <@rhia> polerin is a chosen one, of those who "give a damn" and of those who "speak properly" and not of those who "wanna B3 kewl"
21:06  * polerin blinks
21:06 <@polerin> I wouldn't say that
21:06 <@rhia> hi, youself ... and to the better half ;)
21:06 <@polerin> lol
21:07 <@polerin> I am an invetrate trasher of grammar and spelling, I just go back and forth depending on situation
21:08 <@polerin> and croud
21:09  * rhia slaps polerin with a large, wet trout
21:09 <@rhia> hehe
21:12 <@dc0de> rhia; http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Remington-Typewriter-with-ribbon-still-works_W0QQitemZ190237852812QQihZ009QQcategoryZ12QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
21:12 <@dc0de> 14 minutes left
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21:13 <@rhia> NOOoooo... can't ... handle... that... fast.... synapses overload!
21:14 <@polerin> I actually have a typewriter at my parents
21:14 <@polerin> I love that thing
21:14 <@polerin> it's the type with the hammers rather than the rotary ball
21:14 <@polerin> it's SO much fun to type on
21:14 <@dc0de> rhia; I might buy it... it's here in GA.
21:15  * sdodson_ wonders if anyone knows of some mysql benchmark scripts with data sets larger than 40mb
21:16 <@rhia> dc0de: you know how many times I've wanted a real, old fashioned decent type writer??  those puppies are getting rare
21:16 < AstralSin> i had some bookmarked at one point in time, lemme see if i can dig em up
21:17 < AstralSin> no nm, that was data generators
21:17 <@dc0de> rhia; I'm buying that one...
21:17 < AstralSin> it would generate sample data for your database so you could see what your webapp would look like with some shit in the db
21:18 <@dc0de> put a $30 bid on it.
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21:18 <@dc0de> looks like I'm going to get it...
21:18  * dc0de crosses his fingers
21:18 <@rhia> dc0de: i may borrow it occasionally
21:18 <@dc0de> rhia; no prob...
21:19 <@polerin> AstralSin: need some of those for a fixture :P
21:19 <@polerin> for my fixtures even
21:19  * polerin hates creating fixtures
21:20 <@rhia> i hate getting printed forms in the mail ... scan, convert, offset, inset, reposition, offset again, type, save .. Gods damn it,  start over .....
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21:21 <@dc0de> if I get this thing for 21.49 + 7 for shipping, I'm going to put it right next to my computer keyboard.
21:21 <@rhia> and i can pdf you the more annoying BS? ... cool!
21:21 <@dc0de> 4 mins...
21:22 <@dc0de> heh.
21:22 <@dc0de> it's going to be part of my "survival gear"
21:22 <@dc0de> no power required.
21:22 <@polerin> heh
21:23 < AstralSin> polerin: well, i've lost the link now
21:23 <@polerin> well, I don't need it for my db so much as for the fixtures
21:24 < AstralSin> if you don't need to grab stuff from a db, just use a lorem ipsum
21:24 <@dc0de> here we go... last minute.
21:24 <@brimstone> how do i add another ip to an interface, it's like ip addr add or something right?
21:24 < AstralSin> http://www.lipsum.com/
21:26 <@dc0de> sweet! I got it for $28.49! w00t!
21:26 < AstralSin> brimstone: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-creating-or-adding-new-network-alias-to-a-network-card-nic/#rhel
21:28 <@polerin> AstralSin: it needs to be actual data
21:28 <@polerin> a fixture is a false database
21:28 <@polerin> that is used for testing
21:28 <@brimstone> AstralSin: close, but i need the raw commands, not the distro scripts this time
21:29 <@ware> brimstone: any idears for a degraded drive
21:29 < AstralSin> brimstone: i've done it that way, i just don't remember how
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21:29 <@ware> theres a 320gb drive that is not in use in the array
21:29 <@brimstone> ware: eh/
21:29 <@brimstone> ?
21:29 <@brimstone> degraded raid?
21:29 <@ware> degraded array
21:29 <@brimstone> what level raid?
21:29 <@ware> 14
21:29 <@ware> i dont know
21:30 <@brimstone> well, if it's 0, you're hosed
21:30 <@brimstone> if it's 1, you're great
21:30 <@brimstone> if it's 5 you're pretty good
21:30 <@ware> i cant tell from the card management
21:30 <@brimstone> if it's 6, stop complaining and get a new drive
21:30 <@ware> all the shit is software controlled within the os
21:30 <@ware> which is in the array
21:30 <@brimstone> that's ugly
21:30 <@brimstone> so your os doesn't boot?
21:30 <@ware> correct
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21:30 <@brimstone> smooth move
21:30 <@ware> im going back out there in the morning to wipe it
21:30 <@juice> swap drives if it is raid 1 it will boot
21:31 <@ware> reinstall the os and crap
21:31 <@brimstone> how many drives in it?
21:31 <@brimstone> what time of raid card?
21:31 <@ware> even tho the array is degraded?
21:31 <@brimstone> we need more info here budy
21:31 <@brimstone> buddy
21:31 <@brimstone> with raid 1, sure
21:31 <@ware> f info
21:31 < AstralSin> brimstone: if you find info on adding multiple ips to a single card, let me know, i'm gonna need that this weekend
21:31 <@ware> which drive is bad
21:31 <@ware> it doesnt say
21:31 <@brimstone> AstralSin: ip addr add 1.2.3.4 dev eth0
21:31 <@ware> AstralSin: any OS does that
21:31 < AstralSin> i get to bring home a big badass server and install centos on it and configure it for web and ftp access
21:31 <@dc0de> ware; fake raid sucks.
21:32 < AstralSin> brimstone: iirc, there were some more steps to really make it work right
21:32 <@ware> i think thats what i got to deal with
21:32 <@ware> but i get to wipe it and set it up however i want tomorrow
21:32 <@ware> bad thing is this NAS stores all the backups lol
21:32 <@brimstone> AstralSin: that's as far as i've gotten
21:32 <@dc0de> ware; get a real raid card.
21:32 <@brimstone> don't put the os on a raid, or put it on a raid 1
21:32 <@ware> its a 3com something
21:32 <@juice> 3-ware?
21:33 <@brimstone> just too many problems with an OS on the raid
21:33 <@ware> juice: yeah mabye
21:33 <@juice> that's hardware raid then
21:34 <@juice> or should be
21:34 <@dc0de> if it's a 3ware, and raid 1 or 5, your system should boot.
21:34 <@juice> yep
21:34 <@juice> howm,any drives are in the machine?
21:34 <@juice> total drives
21:36 <@ware> 6
21:36 <@ware> all in the same array
21:36 <@juice> okay
21:36 <@brimstone> should be 5 then
21:36 <@brimstone> or 0
21:36 <@brimstone> or really small drives
21:36 <@ware> all 120gb drives cept for the 320
21:36 <@ware> which is not in use apparently
21:36 <@ware> the cards management didnt give me shit for options or tell me anything
21:37 <@juice> i was going to suggest a raid setup but it doesn't have enough drives
21:37 <@brimstone> 50 or something?
21:37 <@brimstone> 51 really :D
21:37 <@juice> yes
21:37 <@brimstone> but it's such a waste of drives
21:38 <@juice> well kind of
21:38 <@ware> stupid M$ server shit out when i applied the dns patch
21:38 <@ware> pos
21:42 <@juice> brimstone, I was going to say a raid 1 with 2 drives for the os and a raid 5 for the rest
21:42 <@juice> is that a 51?
21:42 <@brimstone> yeah, that'd work too
21:42 <@juice> or is 51 different
21:43 <@brimstone> no, that's a 5+1 i think
21:43 <@brimstone> well, 5,1
21:43 <@ware> thats what i was planning
21:43 <@juice> yeah 5+1=51 or 53
21:43 <@brimstone> and 51 i think is a raid 1 between 2 raid 5s
21:43 <@juice> yes
21:43 <@juice> that is right
21:43 <@juice> I am reading on it
21:43 <@juice> was trying to decipher what it was saying
21:43 <@brimstone> san guys use 50 all the time, meaning raid 0 between 2 raid 5s
21:43 <@juice> yeah it says with with 51 you can ahve 3-5 drives drop
21:43 <@juice> and still be good
21:44 <@juice> but the expensive and low disk storage
21:44 <@juice> is the downside
21:44 <@dc0de> brimstone; I actually preferred using RAID 10 on SANs, it was faster and with a hot spare, it's just as resilient.
21:44 <@juice> okay
21:44 <@juice> does jbod allow for hotspare?
21:45 <@brimstone> i don't think so
21:45 <@brimstone> but i'm not sure
21:45 <@juice> i didn't figure either
21:45 <@brimstone> there are so many different ways to stack raids
21:45 <@juice> yeah
21:45 <@dc0de> juice; no
21:45 <@juice> i hate waiting on jbod's to come up
21:45 <@ware> well yall be on in the morning
21:45 <@juice> nope
21:45 <@juice> me be at work
21:46 <@ware> and we can chat about it when im in front of the hardware :P
21:46 <@ware> so will i lol
21:47 <@juice> I had a close call at work the last 2 days
21:47 <@juice> scsi drive 0 died yesterday
21:47 <@juice> come in today scsi drive 1 is dead
21:47 <@juice> this on a raid1
21:48 <@brimstone> how close are the serials?
21:49 <@juice> hmm didn't look
21:49 <@juice> but I cna tomorrow
21:49 <@juice> in the past 2 days I have gotten good at harddrive disassembly
21:50 <@juice> done over 50 or more and several styles
21:50 <@juice> old school scsi had 6 platters in it
21:50 <@juice> and they are glass
21:50 <@juice> rather than metal
21:51 <@brimstone> faaaancy
21:51 <@juice> they will shatter when pried on in the old ibm scsi drives
21:51 <@juice> :(
21:51 <@juice> and you get glass flying everywhere
21:53 <@juice> okay all jbod does is just give you one big drive
21:53 <@brimstone> like a raid 0 right?
21:53 <@juice> no redundancy at all
21:53 <@juice> yeah just bunch of disks
21:54 <@juice> you mix and match sizes
21:54 <@brimstone> ah, ok
21:54 <@juice> I use it on some bonnie++ machines
21:54 <@juice> when testing
21:54 <@juice> various size hd's
21:54 <@brimstone> does size matter on raid 0 then?
21:54 <@juice> hmm
21:54 <@juice> yes
21:55 <@juice> but it is only as big as the smalletst drive
21:55 <@juice> so like a 120gb and a 100gb
21:55 <@juice> give yu 200gb
21:55 <@brimstone> but in jbod, 220gb
21:55 <@brimstone> right?
21:55 <+MxZBot> wrong?
21:55 <@juice> yup
21:55 <@brimstone> gotcha
21:55 <@juice> so i mean might as well go jbod
21:55 <@brimstone> yeah
21:55 <@juice> since neither have redundancy
21:56 <@brimstone> and raid 1 2 jbods :)
21:57 <@juice> hmm wonder what this does
21:57 <@juice> raid 5e and raid 5ee and raid 6e
21:58 <@juice> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/eserver/v1r2/index.jsp?topic=/diricinfo/fqy0_craid5e.html
21:58 <@juice> I like this site
21:58 <@juice> it explains stuff pretty good
21:59 <@ware> RAID DEEZ NUTZ LIKE CHOKOLATE`
21:59 <@juice> i know of a page with animated raid
21:59 <@juice> so you can see how each works
21:59 <@juice> but I forgot it
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22:01 <@rhia> ware?  go sleepy sleep, night time now, k?
22:01 <@ware> how comez
22:01 <@ware> im still worki
22:01 <@ware> n
22:01 <@ware> working on this samba server, and got a 700 page pdf :(
22:02 <@juice> Supports up to 128 physical drives on SAS and SATA controllers
22:02 <@juice> on x0
22:02 <@juice> that is crazy
22:02 <@ware> dang
22:02 <@juice> x meaning 00 10 50 60
22:02 <@juice> or 1E0
22:05 <@juice> ware like on a raid 1 I had a drive lose it's lilo or mbr so I got L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 etc
22:06 <@juice> swap the drives and it boots perfect
22:06 <@ware> well i think the f up is in the raid controller
22:06 <@ware> if its all managed by software i need to do a mirrored set of 2 drives and have the OS on that
22:07 <@ware> then the other 4 drives can be in raid5
22:07 <@juice> yes but the 320 will be a 120 ...
22:08 <@ware> eh, its only 200g
22:08 <@juice> okay
22:08 <@ware> lol
22:08 <@ware> do with what i got
22:08 <@ware> its more than right now, its not even in use
22:08 <@juice> but I mean if it wasn't in use then it won't hurt adding the backup os drive
22:08 <@juice> yeah
22:09 <@ware> only pulling 6075.89 KB/s average from my new smb box :(
22:09 <@ware> i need some gigabit here
22:09 <@juice> hmm
22:09 <@juice> i'm not sure what I can get at work
22:09 <@ware> thats going thru... 2 switches and a hub
22:09 <@juice> is the server using smbfs or cfis
22:10 <@ware> smbfs
22:10 <@juice> aww
22:10 <@juice> that is your problem
22:10 <@juice> change it
22:10 <@juice> you will see much better speed
22:10 <@ware> well i assume smbfs, its using smbd pretty default
22:10 <@juice> if it is then change it :)
22:11 <@juice> ware
22:11 <@juice> http://www.perturb.org/display/entry/773/
22:12 <@juice> if you don't believe me
22:12 <@juice> look 26MB vs 140MB
22:12 < sdodson_> I wish I was John Stewart's Sr. Black Correspondant.
22:12 <@juice> hmm
22:13 <@ware> oh man
22:13 <@ware> juice: im not an ereet linux/bsd admin
22:13 <@ware> so i dun know all teh hax
22:14 <@juice> so I am telling you
22:14 <@ware> oh i see what theyre doing
22:14 <@ware> if i wanted to try that i would make a share on this box then mount it on the smb server via cifs
22:15 <@ware> right now i have a share on the fbsd box via smbd and im pulling from it
22:16 <+eryc> what about nfs
22:16 <@ware> juice: im mid transfer, has 15 min left so ima just leave it
22:17 <@ware> copying over GoW PC edition and HALO2 PC
22:17 <@juice> k
22:17 <@ware> just beat Call of Duty 4 yesterday, the single player is awesome
22:18 <@juice> cool
22:18 <@juice> I beat cod2 and played some of 3
22:18 <@juice> on xbox360
22:20 <@ware> ahh cifs isnt on fbsd by default
22:21 <@juice> eh ..
22:21 <@juice> darn
22:21 <@ware> ima fix that :P
22:21 <@juice> k
22:23 <@juice> i need a linux music d/l
22:23 <@juice> i can't gtk-gnutella to ever work anymore
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22:27 <@ware> brimstone: ping
22:28 <@brimstone> PONG
22:28 <@brimstone> sorry, caps
22:28 <@ware> do you have kaspersky for free?
22:28 <@brimstone> nope
22:28 <@brimstone> their free scanner is pretty good though
22:28 <@brimstone> seems to scan a lot
22:28 <@brimstone> but it's not on access
22:28 <@ware> free online version?
22:28 <@juice> try out bitdefender
22:28 <@brimstone> no, free downloaded version
22:29 < sdodson_> mysql-bench = lame
22:29 < sdodson_> sysbench seems cool though
22:30 <@juice> k
22:31 <@rhia> sdodson_:  .... a M$ product is "lame" ? coming from You?
22:31 <@rhia> is the end of the world truly nigh?
22:32 <@rhia> or hast thou fallen into the evil clutches of the anti-MS corp that signs your paycheck?
22:33 <@ware> rhia is stoned
22:33 <@ware> ^5
22:33 <@rhia> ware: no, rhia just has a shit ton of stones to throw at idiotic imbeciles
22:34  * ware looks around for an imbecile
22:34  * rhia hands ware a mirror to look into
22:35  * ware make installs stunnel and warps thru the mirror
22:37 <@rhia> technical prowess does not negate basic stupidity ... lots of "smart' people would not have even been heard of had they not been able to afford a decent maid and secretary .... can we say Edison ,... or Einstein?
22:37 <@ware> juice: someone recommended bitdefender to me awhile back, im trying it out
22:37 <@juice> to me it is the best antivirus or panda security
22:37 <@ware> ive used panda before and liked it
22:38 <@juice> the main reason I like panda is the eval version will still work after expires
22:38 <@juice> it just doesn't allow def updates
22:40 <@rhia> and if Edison and Einstein needed that help from the "little people" how much more do the self expressed intelligentsia in here that continually promote themselves by downing others?
22:40 <@rhia> at which point, the old woman wanders off to bed ,,, whatever
22:47 <@ware> whom was i downing? (assuming that was for me)
22:48 <@ware> coil and Shadow404 dont count.. :P
22:57 < sdodson_> HI HOW ARE YOU GUYS TOGNIGHT?!
22:57 <@brimstone> apt on mah iphone
22:58 <@ware> sdodson_: fail
22:58 <@ware> :P
22:58 < sdodson_> brimstone: what u said?
22:58 <@ware> you got aptitude on it?
22:58 <@brimstone> apt
22:58 <@brimstone> no, just apt, i think
22:59 < sdodson_> why you hosering up your iphone?
22:59 <@brimstone> hey, at least there's no yum for it
23:00 <@ware> SkyDog had the iPhone saber app on his, you would swing it like a saber and it'd make the sounds
23:00 <@ware> was pretty neat
23:01 < sdodson_> ya, cause that's the feature i've always wanted but my poor treo could never provide!
23:01 <@ware> dude, you havent had fun til you iphone lightsaber war'd it up
23:01 <@hobbes615> i have the saber app on mine too
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23:50 <@aestetix> dongz
23:55 <@someninjamaster> i have the saber app as well
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