--- Log opened Fri Jul 18 00:00:53 2008
00:03 <@coil> word.
00:03 <@coil> welcome to 2002
00:05 < sdodson_> hi
00:05 <@coil> sdodson_: hi
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00:05 <+sdodson_> hi
00:05 <@coil> ___________
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00:13 <+sdodson_> hi
00:14 <@coil> hi
00:14 <@coil> wat r u doin
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00:36 <@timoguin> brimstone: you use macs don't you?
00:37 <@coil> used
00:37 <@coil> used to
00:37 <@brimstone> used to
00:37 <@coil> see i can answer for him
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00:45 <@coil> taco
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00:49 <@coil> PEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWPPEWPEWPEWPEWP
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04:25 < scoil> im uber leet
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04:32 < scoil> hi
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05:01 < coil_> jesus wants to be ugli
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07:11 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:33  * someninjamaster appears in a puff of smoke
07:35  * I-MOD drags ass in
07:36 <@I-MOD> so i saw dark knight at the midnight release
07:36 <@Shadow404> ...sad
07:36 <@I-MOD> twas awesome
07:36 <@I-MOD> and worth it
07:36 <@Shadow404> u haz no life sir
07:36 <@I-MOD> Shadow404, on the contrary, i DO have a life and that's the only reason I was there
07:36 <@Shadow404> if it had angelina in it, i would so good man, but for some dude in a rubber bat suit....sad
07:37 <@I-MOD> i already saw wanted
07:37 <@Shadow404> ohhhh, now tht was a good movie
07:37 <@Shadow404> i'd do her
07:46  * shadowmoss wanders in
07:47 <@I-MOD> howdy!
07:47 < shadowmoss> hi
07:47 < shadowmoss> NotLarry is my hero today
07:47 <@I-MOD> for why?
07:48 < shadowmoss> Last night my cat was having a meltdown (is very sick with pneumonia) and I couldn't deal with it, and he stepped in and took care of him
07:48 < shadowmoss> I was almost hysterical
07:48 <@I-MOD> that's cool
07:48 < shadowmoss> yeah
07:48  * I-MOD doesn't have pets unless you count strages or brimstone 
07:48 < shadowmoss> I don't think the cat or I would have made it without him
07:48  * shadowmoss counts strages and brimstone 
07:48 < shadowmoss> I might adopt them as pets
07:48 <@I-MOD> noes!
07:49 <@I-MOD> they pay rent!
07:49 < shadowmoss> that is if they come with their own paycheck
07:49 <@I-MOD> mine!
07:49 < shadowmoss> I can't afford to feed them
07:49 <@brimstone> :(
07:49  * shadowmoss hugs brimstone 
07:49 <@brimstone> hey shadowmoss!
07:49 < shadowmoss> thanks for the help the other day with boot images
07:49 < shadowmoss> got that part figured out, looked like a hero here...
07:49 <@brimstone> you get it all sorted out?
07:50 <@brimstone> hehe, that's good
07:50 < shadowmoss> still can't make the install put in the cots software correctly, so failed ultimately
07:50 < shadowmoss> btw, is cots a standard term for 'commercial off the shelf' everywhere, or just military?
07:51 <@brimstone> i sleep on cots
07:51 <@I-MOD> yes you do...
07:51 <@I-MOD> </innuendo>
07:51  * shadowmoss sleeps on a king sized waterbed
07:51 <@I-MOD> sounds like fun
07:51 < shadowmoss> large playing field...
07:51 <@brimstone> sounds like trouble
07:51  * I-MOD sleeps on an extended twin
07:51 <@brimstone> do you have to tie a rope to the edge so you can find your way off it shadowmoss?
07:52 < shadowmoss> where's the other twin?  seems like you should get both...
07:52 <@I-MOD> shhh
07:52 <@I-MOD> they don't know about that
07:52  * I-MOD hides paperwork of a second job
07:52 <@brimstone> he ateded it
07:52  * shadowmoss decides not to go further with that...
07:52 <@someninjamaster> haha
07:54 < shadowmoss> guess I should get to work, since that's what t hey pay me for
07:54 < shadowmoss> I'm thinking I'll fade bigtime later since I was up from 2:30am till after 3:30 with the cat
08:00 <@I-MOD> yeah, i think i'm going to hit that as well
08:06 <@tzanger> bleh. can't get the fucking free version of blackberry enterprise server to activate a phone
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08:11 <+sdodson_> dun dun dun
08:12 <+sdodson_> police on segways give me hard lolz
08:16 <@I-MOD> tzanger, i've poked at that before, it was kind of annoying to deal with
08:17 <@tzanger> yep
08:17 <@tzanger> it's set up, it's communicating with exchange and the bb servers, but it won't fucking over-the-air activate
08:17 <@I-MOD> in my case, i was just attempting to reset the device
08:17 <@I-MOD> like...factory
08:17 <@tzanger> heh
08:18 <@I-MOD> stupid thing wouldn't drop IT's security policies
08:18 <@I-MOD> had to used the server thing
08:18 <@I-MOD> and find a file that someone had written for it
08:18  * sdodson_ locks I-MOD down
08:18  * I-MOD breaks the lockdown
08:19 <@tzanger> and what's weird, is that the *desktop* redirecotr seems to be required
08:19 <@tzanger> if it isn't I try to activate and the email from the bb to the server appears in the inbox but doesn't disappear like the docs say it should
08:19 <@brimstone> and what did we learn?
08:20  * shadowmoss pops in long enough to dunk brimstone into the bit bucket
08:20  * shadowmoss pops back out again
08:20 <@brimstone> aww, i just showered
08:29 < shadowmoss> ok, new question
08:30 < shadowmoss> I'm running into a lot of .cmd files with this unattended install thing
08:30 < shadowmoss> are those like .bat files, or do you have to do something different, or does windows trea them special or what...
08:31 <@I-MOD> never heard of them
08:31 < shadowmoss> the one I'm wondering about now is reboot.cmd
08:31 < shadowmoss> I don't know if it's a specific file accross the board, or if it's something the original author created
08:31 < shadowmoss> I'm wondering about some switches used with it
08:31 < shadowmoss> yes, I'm googling it but not finding anything that helps so far
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08:37  * shadowmoss plods on through the murky code
08:39 <@brimstone> .cmd files are like .bat files
08:39 <@brimstone> almost exactly
08:42 < shadowmoss> next... what is the /d switch on shutdown.exe?
08:42 < shadowmoss> I find all the others...
08:44 < shadowmoss> found it...
08:44 < shadowmoss> not applicable to what I was wanting to know, sigh
08:44 <@brimstone> dunno, shutdown.exe /?
08:46 < shadowmoss> the /d command lets you list the reason, probably used more with server than xp
08:47 < shadowmoss> I have a diskpart .txt file that says it executes as part of the reboot.cmd file that uses shutdown.exe
08:47 < shadowmoss> I can't see where reboot.cmd calls this .txt file, and i need to call it earlier in the process
08:48 < shadowmoss> maybe I could put the .txt file in the cmdlines.txt file that is run at t-12 in the xp install...
08:53 < shadowmoss> guess I'll try that.  If I can access the cd drive during the runonce stuff rather than copying it all to the c drive via $oem$ copy, I can eliminate the issue of stuff not copying because it is nested too deep and fails the file name length problem
08:53  * shadowmoss is babbling now after a week+ playing with what should have been easy
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09:02 <@brimstone> babble babble
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09:06 <+sdodson_> read http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/dear-rhythmbox and then the first reply
09:08 <@brimstone> ha
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09:12 < wolfen_at_max> what was the link on the book about freedom that was send on the mailing list?
09:18 <@Shadow404> great, im working with 3 diffrent depts today, all at the same time
09:19 <@brimstone> and you have time for irc? sounds like someone's not giving the company his all
09:19 <+sdodson_> Shadow404: keep your eye on the ball
09:21 <+sdodson_> wolfen_at_max: http://craphound.com/littlebrother/Cory_Doctorow_-_Little_Brother.htm
09:21 < wolfen_at_max> sdodson THX
09:23 <@Shadow404> heh, i have a few seconds to breathe between omg, urgent emails and pissed off calls to underlings to get shit done that was supposed to be done last week
09:23 <@Shadow404> not to mention verizon business being a god forsaken chronic bitch of a company to work with
09:29 <@polerin> it's going to be one of those mornings
09:29 <@Shadow404> just another day in the NOC
09:29 <@Shadow404> aye
09:29 <@Shadow404> manager is gonna woop the underlings for me, woot
09:29 <@polerin> ...  starting out my work listening to the carpenters.  It's never a good day when I have to reach that far down to cheer up :P
09:34 <@Dolemite> anorexics FTW!
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09:39 <@Shadow404> there nice to look at, but you'd break the cheerleaders like twigs
09:42 <+sdodson_> oh?
09:42 <@critch> See, I love my life. The sprocket set for my bike seems like it might actually deliver today. If so, and I pick up my chain this evening, I will be able to swap those out tomorrow. Last night I found the bearings I need for my bike too for less than half of the dealer price.
09:45 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : I was referring to Karen Carpenter, who was anorexic and basically starved herself to death.  That's why you rarely hear The Carpenters music playing in restaurants.
09:45 <@Shadow404> oh, sorry about that
09:46 <@Shadow404> obviously before my time
09:46 <@Dolemite> yeah
09:47 <@Dolemite> really before my time, but I was right on the cusp of 70s to 80s in terms of music listening
09:47 <@Shadow404> oh man, i was born to late, i love 80's music
09:49 <@polerin> It's before my time, but I got it :P
09:50 <@polerin> Shadow404: no that's not "born too late" that's "have no taste"
09:50 <@polerin> :P
09:50 <@Dolemite> 80s Music > *
09:50 <@polerin> as I said
09:50 <@polerin> no taste
09:51 <@Dolemite> You have no legs to stand on, listening to Karen starve herself.
09:51 <@polerin> there is some very good 80's music, even in what people think of as "80's", but the great majority of is crap
09:51 <@brimstone> some of the rock/punk of the 90s and the electronica and indie of this decade is better then 80s music
09:51 <@polerin> heh, as I said, it's never a good day when I need to go to the carpenters
09:52 <@polerin> mmm cup # 2
09:52 <@polerin> (cup in this case being a monstrosity that's about 1/3 of a pot :D )
09:52 <@oddball> polerin: isn't that true of most genres?
09:53 <@polerin> oddball: what, that there are some good songs?
09:53 <@polerin> yep.  For example  Standing Outside the Fire - garth brooks.
09:53 <@oddball> there are some good songs, but a large portion are crap
09:53 <@Dolemite> there will always be bad music in any time based classification, but if you take the best of the 80s, it's better than the best of any other decade
09:53 <@polerin> same with independance day
09:53 <@polerin> Dolemite: best 80's song that is so far superior to any other song?
09:56 <@brimstone> anything by sparklemotion :D
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09:56 <@polerin> heh
09:59 <@Dolemite> ['Talking Heads', 'Crowded House', 'Tears for Fears'] > [*]
09:59 <@polerin> In general the  50's and 60's had better RnB, pop and basic rock, the 90's and 00's has had better metal, and the 80's is the era of the flourishing of soft jazz .. something with which I will never forgive it
09:59 <@Dolemite> of course, the left side changes daily depending upon mood
10:00 <@Dolemite> The 90s gave us the rise of Celine Dion, Kenny G, Yanni, and John Tesch.  Suck on that soft jazz.
10:00 <@polerin> while I love the talking heads (as I said, some good stuff)  they don't measure up to Miles davis or radiohead
10:01 <@polerin> the 80['s provided the breeding ground and fanbase for them to rise to the top
10:01 <@polerin> :P
10:01 <@polerin> hehe
10:01 <@Dolemite> well as much fun as beating a dead horse any conversation about musical tastes would be, I've got lots and lots of work to do
10:02 <@polerin> heh
10:02 <@polerin> have fun with that
10:02 <@ware> f u c k .
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10:05  * polerin pokes maxiez with a spork
10:05 < MaxieZ> Well at least it's not a deep wound
10:06 <@polerin> no that would be a stab
10:07 <@Shadow404> dc0de: and how are you expecting me to get a dead car from my place to dacula?
10:07 < shadowmoss> a very large herse?
10:07 < shadowmoss> or however it's spelled...
10:08 <@Shadow404> well, i got all the tools and books at my parents place
10:08 <@Shadow404> ill borrow the truck, bring all the tools back i need and work on it at my house
10:09 <@Shadow404> or get it towed to parents using scotchick's AAA card
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10:13 <@SkyDog_> Good morning all.
10:13  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
10:16  * ware falls on skydog and sleeps
10:17 <@SkyDog_> Did we stay up late ware?
10:17 <@ware> bossman is still not in from last nights outing :(
10:17 <@ware> wont answer any phone calls and we're a bit worried
10:18 <@I-MOD> lol
10:20 <@ware> and i body slammed my 22" widescreen trying to carry it in
10:20 <@SkyDog_> Ouch!
10:20 <@ware> quote, "LIIIKKEEE WHHAAAAAMMMMOOOOOO!!"
10:20 <@ware> im so done drinking, dont miss it at all
10:21 <@SkyDog_> I'll remind you the NEXT time you say that.
10:21 <@brimstone> heh, good luck ware
10:21 <@brimstone> did ya damage the monitor?
10:21 <@ware> im just saying ive flipflopped enough, the shit is overrated
10:21 <@ware> i dunno, it looks like i tried to put the card in the box last night
10:22 <@brimstone> "it looks like" ?
10:22 <@brimstone> yikes
10:22 <@ware> but it wasnt al the way in and the monitors were flipped over
10:22 <@ware> my room was a mess when i woke up lol
10:26 <@oddball> just remember, if you can't remember last night, chances are you DIDN'T have a good time.
10:27 <@ware> i remember it, her name was lauren :D
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10:59 <@ware> not the damn time to be bitching at me for something i didnt setup/break
10:59 <@brimstone> and why not?
10:59 <@ware> cause my head hurts
11:00 <@ware> and if you yell at me i will pray to the sun that the fleas of a thousand camels nest in your groin
11:00 <@brimstone> why didn't you just setup that thing then?
11:00 <@ware> they didnt axe me
11:01  * brimstone axes ware
11:03 <@Dolemite> ware : You need to be over 'getting drunk'
11:03 <@ware> i think i am about there
11:03 <@Dolemite> There is a lot of enjoyment that can be had from drinking in moderation.
11:04 <@Dolemite> But if you can't moderate, cutting out all drinking is the only safe choice.
11:04 <@brimstone> everything in moderation, including moderation
11:04 <@ware> :D
11:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Just drink something you can't afford, like good Scotch
11:04 <@SkyDog_> Or things that only corydon will buy you... when you're at his place... naked.
11:04 <@polerin> Dolemite: very definatly if he's blacking out (It sounds like it from the side coversations)
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Drinking down a bottle that costs over $100 for 500mL... you won't drink quickly.  You learn to pace yourself
11:05 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Oh, like good Scotch?
11:05 <@SkyDog_> I wouldn't know.
11:05 <@ware> polerin: blacking out?
11:05 <@SkyDog_> Ok, gonna go have lunch with squirrelturd. Back in a bit.
11:06 <@ware> oh im on /ignore
11:06 <@polerin> brimstone: "Everything in moderation, especially moderation."  --- fixed
11:06 <@Evilpig> isn't that a health problem?
11:09 <@brimstone> :D thanks polerin
11:10 <@polerin> hehe
11:10 < shadowmoss> WOOOT!!! WOOT!!!
11:10 < shadowmoss> gots the install to work!!!!
11:15  * shadowmoss is nervous that she got something to work that the 'programmers' here couldn't
11:15 <@I-MOD> lol
11:15 <@I-MOD> you win at life
11:15 <@oddball> U is l33t hax0r!
11:15 <@oddball> sorry
11:16 <@ware> lol
11:16 < shadowmoss> yep, it's called reverse engineering...
11:16  * Dementia waves
11:16  * shadowmoss waves back
11:16 <@polerin> arg.  why is there not an assertNotFalse()
11:16 <@polerin> hi dem
11:16  * I-MOD waves left
11:16 <@I-MOD> aww...no one there D:
11:18 <@polerin> I guess assertNotEqual(false, $foo); works
11:18 <@polerin> grr.
11:18 <@Dementia> Is ther an assertTrue()?
11:19 <@polerin> yes, but !false is not neccisarily true in php
11:19 <@brimstone> wait wait wait, true != !false?
11:19 <@polerin> the function returns false on error and array on success
11:19 <@Dementia> weird.
11:20 <@polerin> brimstone:   true != !false;  but that's not the only example of it
11:20 <@polerin> brimstone: beyond that, I actually intended to say that just because somethings not equal to false doesn't meen it's true
11:20 <@polerin> true !== !false; //and is the only thing that is such however
11:21 <@polerin> because it also compares the type
11:21 <@dc0de> shhhh, polerin is talking...
11:21 <@polerin> for example  if(array('foo'))  evaluates to true because the array is not empty
11:21  * dc0de watches intently.
11:21 <@polerin> oh hush dcode
11:21 <@polerin> don't make me spork you
11:21 <@polerin> hehe
11:21  * dc0de puts on some anti-spork armor
11:22 <@polerin> brimstone: http://www.php.net/manual/en/types.comparisons.php
11:27 < shadowmoss> ok, so the install pretty much works...
11:28  * dc0de hugs shadowmoss 
11:31 <@strages> http://strages.net/index.php/2008/07/18/quickie-at-lunch-or-really-needing-to-ta
11:32 <@someninjamaster> is it a bad idea for me to set my fishtank on top of the main server here
11:35 <@ware> lol
11:36  * shadowmoss hugs dc0de 
11:37 < shadowmoss> vet wants mucho $$$$ more tests run on the cat
11:37 <@brimstone> someninjamaster: servers love fish!
11:37 < shadowmoss> I said that before this pneumonia he was fine, so I'm gonna wait and see
11:37 < shadowmoss> another night like last night, if NL isn't there, and neither the cat nor I will need any tests...
11:38  * shadowmoss heads out to lunch
11:41 <@polerin> brimstone: and fish love servers!  why, last time I caught a large mouth bass, it begged me to take a stroll through the head end at metrocenter
11:41  * polerin looks at the coffee cup
11:41 <@brimstone> see!
11:41 <@polerin> wonder what lissa spiked this with today
11:41 <@brimstone> i don't know how many times goldfish have asked me to see where the email happens
11:43 <@someninjamaster> so i have a beta in my office
11:43 <@someninjamaster> away from all my machines
11:43 <@brimstone> teach it to setup new user accounts
11:43 <@someninjamaster> the petshop didnt find my joke very funny
11:44 <@someninjamaster> i said i needed 6 betas and one tank
11:50 <@brimstone> ya know, it's kinda fun replying inline to top replyed messages
11:50 <@brimstone> make them hunt for my words
11:54 <@ware> fucking hell
11:54 <@ware> she sounds vute
11:54 <@ware> but she wont STFU.
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12:02 <+sdodson_> who?
12:06 <@dc0de> are you
12:06 <@dc0de> who who, who who
12:06 <+sdodson_> sdodson
12:06 <@dc0de> ahh...
12:06  * dc0de turns off the mp3 player.
12:07 <@tcstool> haha
12:08 <@tcstool> dc0de:  Did you see the VH1 rock honors show last night?
12:08 <@ware> well son of a bitch.
12:08 <@tcstool> what happened, you lost your job? :-p
12:08 <@ware> apparently i had a 'fat bonus' coming monday
12:08 <@ware> but that got fucked and i got docked 4hrs today
12:08 <@ware> cause 'im still drunk'
12:08 <@tcstool> OH yeah right
12:09 <@tcstool> I don't believe that for a second
12:09 <@tcstool> at least you showed up
12:09 <@ware> *shrug*
12:09 <@ware> yeah.
12:09 <@tcstool> They're feeding you a bunch of BS, don't worry about it
12:09 <@tcstool> I'll see if I can get John to speed that other position up
12:09 <@dc0de> tcstool, no, missed it...
12:09 <@tcstool> It wasn't bad
12:10 <@tcstool> I generally dislike covers of Who songs, but (except the Foo Fighters), these were pretty good
12:10 <@tcstool> and then they came out and really sounded great
12:10 <+sdodson_> hah drunk
12:10 <@someninjamaster> what did they cover
12:10 <@tcstool> who the foo fighters or everyone?
12:10 <@someninjamaster> the foo fighters
12:11 <@someninjamaster> http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g25/someninjamaster/photo-10.jpg
12:11  * sdodson_ sheepishly admits to liking limpbizkit's cover
12:11 <@dc0de> is that a phone in a back in the aquarium?
12:11 <@tcstool> Young man Blues and Bragain
12:11 <@tcstool> Bargain rather
12:11 <@dc0de> **bag
12:11 <@tcstool> Not two better known songs
12:12 <@tcstool> sdodson:  That cover ruined that song for me forever
12:12 <@tcstool> stupid speak and spell voice
12:12 <@someninjamaster> its just a ethernet cable
12:12 <@someninjamaster> did anyone cover pinball wizard
12:13 <@tcstool> Yeah
12:13 <@tcstool> Flaming Lips
12:13 <@someninjamaster> haha
12:13 <@someninjamaster> did they roll out in that big bubble
12:13 <@tcstool> yep
12:13 <@tcstool> They did a medley of songs from Tommy
12:13 <@tcstool> Really well too
12:18  * dc0de is out of here, fuck working.
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12:32 <@Evilpig> I watched tommy about a week or two ago
12:33 < shadowmoss> yeah, that whole movie was a cover of Who songs
12:36 <@Evilpig> Went by one of our new companies just before lunch.  Dropped off a bunch of 1' patch cables and that rack looks so much nicer now.  and the door closes.  lol
12:38 <@Shadow404> awesome
12:39 <@ShadowHntr> lol
12:40 <@Shadow404> ShadowHntr: hows the job hunt?
12:40 <@ShadowHntr> i hate it when all you have are 100' cables and you need just 10'
12:40 <@ShadowHntr> Shadow404: had a job interview yesterday for a POS reseller
12:40 <@ShadowHntr> and i found out the contract position with IBM is still open
12:40 <@Shadow404> ibm never hires
12:40 <@ShadowHntr> heh
12:40 <@Shadow404> ibm is a huge outsourcer
12:41 <+sdodson_> ya, ibm pumps and dumps
12:41 <@ShadowHntr> well it's a contract position anyway
12:41 <@Shadow404> they just advertise cause they have to by law before they outsoruce
12:41 <@ShadowHntr> client is IBM
12:41 <@ShadowHntr> Shadow404: this is with a consulting firm
12:41 <@ShadowHntr> IDR
12:41 <@Shadow404> ok
12:58 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: ping
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13:04 <@GodFix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULpSmZExuZU&feature=related
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13:26 <@critch> anoyone checking out ObsTCP?
13:26 <@critch> s/anoyone/anyone/ damn miskeying
13:27 <@ware> anomnomnomnom
13:31 <@polerin> critch: oh is that googles data interchange format?
13:32 <@polerin> oh.. no
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13:32 <@critch> no, think encryption of TCP without needing to setup VPN or TLS or change applications.
13:33 <@critch> Think screw the people dumping tons of money into Phorm and Nebu.
13:33 <@critch> hmm, wonder of ObsTCP will work with Tor?
13:33 <@polerin> interesting
13:38 <@critch> hmm just over a month old, I think I will hold off adopting it.
13:40 <@oddball> Am I the only one that still thinks of the scifi publisher when I see "Tor?"
13:40 <@brimstone> critch: is that something that say, you and i could chat over?
13:40 <@brimstone> well, we'd use it for our direct traffic?
13:40 <@Dolemite> No, you're not the only one, Oddball
13:41 <@critch> brimstone: well, from what I understand, it is to TCP what fuse is for filesystems. You set it up to make connections with ObsTCP if it can, and then whatever connections it can encrypt it will.
13:42 <@critch> They are looking at getting it into the next release of linux or the one following it.
13:42 <@critch> Since it is BSD licensed, I expect BSD will get it quickly as well.
13:43 <@critch> That will just leave the need to get Mac and Windows to join the party.
13:56 <@Shadow404> woot, first class ticket to tokyo confirmed
13:56 <@coil> HI Shadow404 BESTFRIEND
13:57 <@Shadow404> omg, diaf coil
13:57 <@RyanHouse> Shadow404: you taking vacation?
13:57 <@Shadow404> heh
13:57 <@Shadow404> i wish
13:58 <@brimstone> that's cool
13:58 <@RyanHouse> oh completely forget you mentioning going to the POP out there for the tour/training
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13:58 <@brimstone> this is why i love running a linux kernel
13:58 <@Shadow404> yep
13:59 <@coil> linux kernel?
13:59 <@coil> what's that
13:59 <@brimstone> coil: kernel.org
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13:59 <@coil> oh
14:01 <@polerin> oddball: I have that dichitomy with TOR too
14:05 <@ShadowHntr> anyone in the Nashville area want a free HP LaserJet 5?
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14:20 <@RyanHouse> SHadowHntr: That's a long ass topic
14:21 <@ShadowHntr> lol
14:24 <@coil> I've seen longer.
14:24 <@nachoguy> yay!
14:24 <@nachoguy> interal app has gone to shit!
14:24 <@nachoguy> for once, it's not my problem yet
14:24 <@nachoguy> I'm waiting for the "maybe the network is the reason our database shit itself and the webcluster went tits up
14:26 <@nachoguy> in the end, it's always my fault
14:27 <@nachoguy> ah, they fixed it.  Let the witch hunt begin
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14:37 <@ware> http://www.dealcatcher.com/redir.asp?m=1045&c=132632
14:37 <@ware> oh thats a mail-in rebate
14:37 <@coil> nice ware
14:38 <@brimstone> plz lurn2read
14:38 <@oddball> Heh, talking to Naienko about some excel coding, and she's suprised to see how anal I am about my code.
14:52 <@ware> anyone want to go with me down to HSV tomorrow to LAN with the crew down there?
14:53 <@nachoguy> anybody have a good howto on Dundi shinies?
14:54 <@brimstone> lan lan lan
14:54 < scoil> i do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14:54 < scoil> memememeememem
14:58 <@I-MOD> nachoguy, i would help you if i remembered how to set it up :/
14:58 <@I-MOD> voip-info.org?
14:59 <@nachoguy> it's hit or miss
14:59 <@nachoguy> I'm doing some digging, and will eventually find my way though it
15:00 <@nachoguy> just that Russell and someone else at astricon last year mentioned shiny things like a "multi poll" where you query a list of servers, instead of iterating through them.
15:03 <@ware> http://picasaweb.google.com/rajaram.sethuraman/Misc/photo#5223538206194217490
15:03 <@ware> i like how its open too lol
15:05 <@Evilpig> how do you know it doesn't have a captive portal?
15:05 <@ware> because?
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15:25 <@ware> http://www.flexigensoft.com/accelman
15:26 <@Evilpig> interesting
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15:30 <@ware> http://www.360desktop.com/media.php
15:30 <@ware> thats pretty neat
15:30 <@polerin> oddball: in what way?
15:31 <@Dagmar> Heya polerin
15:31 <@polerin> http://stevie.eclexia.net/erin/photos/rolldesk.jpg   <---  love this thing
15:31 <@polerin> hi dag
15:31 <@oddball> I tend to throw in code that checks to make sure your feeding it data that it can actually use.
15:32 <@brimstone> polerin:  that looks awesome
15:32 <@critch> Dagmar: do you have a psp?
15:33 <@polerin> oddball: thats not anal, that's just good coding :P
15:33 <@Dagmar> Yes
15:33 <@polerin> brimstone: it moves up and down , currently it's at comfy height for a normal chair
15:33 <@critch> What kind of hacking have you done on it, and what is the batterylife like?
15:33 <@polerin> in that picture it was high enough to use while standing
15:34 <@Dagmar> Battery life is pretty long actually.
15:34 <@critch> looking at ways of getting the movies I have bought via PS3 out of the internal drive. Seems the only way is to copy out to a PSP via USB.
15:34 <@Dagmar> The hacking I've done on it almost requires quotation marks around it.  I've done the research towards making a Pandora battery but haven't bothered yet, and I've put together a World of Warcraft 2.4 patch theme
15:35 <@Dagmar> I don't really have any need for antyhing other than the stock firmware.  Mainly I just played FFTA War of the Lions on it
15:35 <@critch> ahh, what do you think the pains would be in pulling a movie file off of the PSP if at all possible?
15:36 <@Dagmar> The real question is is it actually transferrable to the PSP
15:36 <@Dagmar> Those memory sticks are all the storage those things really have, and they don't come in super-huge sizes
15:36 <@critch> I'm not worried about playback, just archival. And yes, that is the only option the PS3 offers for moving the movie files
15:36 <@Dagmar> You *might* be able to read the memstick on a Linux machine
15:37 <@Dagmar> I am just kind of assuming that the SATA drive in these things has an encrypted filesystem.
15:37 <@Dagmar> I just got the email about being able to buy stuff on the PS3 today
15:37 <@Dagmar> I'm suprised you've already bought stuff with it
15:37 <@critch> yeah, the SATA drive in the PS3 is encrypted. even the partition table is unrecognizable on linux
15:37 <@Dagmar> ...but then I have had mine off for like the last two weeks
15:38 <@Dagmar> I take it you don't actually have a PSP there to mess with?
15:38 <@critch> I stunmbled upon it in the PS store Wed night, Thur morning
15:39 <@critch> correct, I'm not too interested yet in getting a PSP unless I see it being useful
15:39 <@critch> being a not too enthusiastic gamer, and I don't game away from home, I am trying to justify buying it.
15:41 <@critch> as for the movies, not a bad price. Just wondering what Comcrap is going to think when more people start legally downloading movies
15:41 <@critch> Especially via the rental option.
15:41 <@Dagmar> Pfft.  I trust you well enough to let you borrow mine
15:42 <@brimstone> critch: movies on ipod touch?
15:42 <@critch> I realised Wed night, Thur morning I downloaded a 1gig demo, 1 trailer, 2 movies at about 1.5gig each, plus various patches for PS3 and linux. All in about 12 hour time span including sleep time.
15:43 <@critch> brimstone: I wouldn't own a ipod touch.
15:43 <@Dagmar> critch: Yes, the PS3 definitely doesn't pay well with transfer-limited connections
15:43 <@brimstone> got a thing against apple and it's iArmy?
15:43 <@Dagmar> I think just about every time I touch it it downloads about a gigabyte
15:44 <@critch> brimstone: a bit. I like my E62 for phone, I like the Sansa e200 series for mp3/ogg players. I can recompress movies for my e62, or the Sansa.
15:48 <@nachoguy> I'm looking into getting one of the Nokia E71s
15:48 <@critch> Yeah, that could be very cool.
15:48 <@nachoguy> it looks fairly shiny
15:49 <@nachoguy> I'm hoping AT&T brings it on as one of their "sign up for 2 more years of slavery" promotions
15:49 <@critch> If they do, I want to demand the $99 unlimited deals that Sprint and such have.
15:50 <@brimstone> critch: why are you getting a psp then?
15:50 <@critch> I recently started running out of minutes at 450 and with the unlimited data plan, I am already at almost $99 a month
15:51 <@critch> brimstone: I don't know that I am getting one yet. I just want to see if I can archive out some movies I have purchased/downloaded via my PS3 to something other than the PS3 harddrive.
15:52 <@brimstone> i wonder if you can pull the videos off your ps3 and encode them for your phone
15:52 <@brimstone> unless you want to be completely legal with all of this
15:52 <@critch> http://store.playstation.com/video/product.vm?id=UV0011-NPVA04445_CN-0000000000006954
15:53 <@critch> I primarily want to know that I can archive them. Not quite soo worried about place shifting them yet, and it should be legal to do so.
15:53 <@critch> Right now anything I buy is stuck on the 80gig drive. That one movie is 1.5gig. at some point it will be full. At some point the drive will fail.
15:54 <@brimstone> too bad you couldn't export to an encrypted dvd or something
15:54 <@brimstone> to read later
15:54 <@coil> wtf
15:54 <@coil> my screen is so dark
15:54 <@critch> That would be cool, but the PS3 doesn't have a burner
15:54 <@coil> how do i fix it when my brightness doesn't work
15:54 <@brimstone> turn the lights on? or off
15:55 <@brimstone> brightness is relative
15:55 <@coil> well the lights are on
15:55 <@coil> im at work so i canno t turn them off
15:56 <@coil> so i need the screen brighter
15:56 <@coil> and i need to some how reset the bios password in a laptop
15:58 <@brimstone> ubcd?
15:58 <@brimstone> really coil a good copy of the ubcd and ubcd4win would do well at any pc repair job
16:02 <@critch> Doh, shit. I wonder if the Cell shit in PS3 is reverse byte order than the PC I pluged the drive into. Kind of like the old TiVo trick to work on the drive.
16:02 <@critch> It might not be encrypted, just byte swapped
16:02 <@polerin> take it to the restroom
16:02 <@polerin> :P
16:03 <@critch> I'm just kicking myself for not thinking of it before
16:03 <@I-MOD> http://www.bitboost.com/pawsense/cat-like-typing-detected.gif
16:03 <@polerin> (that was to coil, not critch. though if you can swap byte order by taking a drive to the bathroom, you are the SHIT.)
16:03 <@Evilpig> that 360 desktop is kinda nifty.  I hope they make something of it.
16:04 <@critch> polerin: I thought it was in reference to the use of shit so many times in my comment
16:04 <@critch> well, I gotta run and pick up bike parts.
16:07 <@coil> ubcd?
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16:08 <@coil> polerin: i got it reset
16:09 <@coil> i googled the laptop and found out theres a reset cmos on the board and i had to connect those two pins
16:09 <@polerin> later critch
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16:10 <@polerin> you know.. I wish window managers let you control-click select multiple windows
16:10 <@polerin> for dragging/resizing/etc
16:10 <@polerin> just default keyboard input to the last one selected or something
16:15 <@Catonic> yo
16:16 <@Catonic> i am at hope, it's pretty crazy.
16:16 <@Catonic> is sdodson_ on?
16:19 <@polerin> /lastlog sdodson
16:19 <@polerin> :P
16:19 <@polerin> last at about 1:00 cst
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16:41 <@someninjamaster> http://nsfw-comix.com/comix/nsfw-badges.gif
16:42 <@someninjamaster> sup remoford
16:43 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
16:49 <@Dagmar> So, I guess I can't pull that URL up at the office, huh
16:49 <@Dagmar> Damn
16:51 <@remoford> sup someninjamaster
16:57 <@polerin> dag, actually it's only mildly nsfw. has the word "sex" and a couple of icons that represent various kinks
16:57 <@polerin> s'bout it
16:57 <@polerin> cartoon
16:58 <@polerin> but take someone else's word for it... I wouldn't have brought it up at comcast.  I was parinoid though :P
16:59 <@RyanHouse> cya later folks........things are hectic this week
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17:11 <@coil> wtf
17:11 <@coil> i cannot find anything about changing the brightness
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18:20 <+sdodson_> hosers
18:28 <@coil> yep u r
18:28 <@coil> sdodson_: my roommates thinkpad sux :P
18:28 <@coil> took me a while to figure out there wasn't a hd in it
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18:37 <+sdodson_> they're talking about haxor space
18:55 <@coil> ~google for haxor space
18:55 <@coil> wtf is that
18:55 <+MxZBot> Google says haxor space is at http://arethosespacepants.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=53168&sid=8f4a7c086eac13406428e1094f74de4d or http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/firefox-logo-sp.html or http://www.gamespot.com/ds/action/spaceinvadersextreme/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-43814134&pid=943067
19:10 <@Catonic> CUNT
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19:27 <@coil> sdodson_: are you still there?
19:28 <@coil> my yum isn't working because of some stupid dependency
19:30 <@coil> Error: Missing Dependency: gecko-libs = 1.9 is needed by package totem-mozplugin-2.23.2-4.fc9.i386 (installed)
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19:36 <@coil> death feels like the butterfly can't escape the scarred lie
19:36 <@coil> real relationships must die underneath a scarred lie
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19:39 <@Dagmar> emo bitch
19:44 <@coil> skinny puppy++
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19:47 <@Dagmar> The lyrics being Skinny Puppy doesn't mean you're not emo for reciting them.
19:48 <@coil> well no one else is fucking talking
19:48 <@coil> im fucking bored
19:48 <@coil> leave me the fuck alone asshole
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20:30 <@ShadowHntr> anyone here want an SGI Indy?
20:31 <@Dagmar> No thanks
20:32 <+AstralSin> hmmm
20:33 <+AstralSin> maybe
20:33 <+AstralSin> how does it rate on the nerd memorabilia scale?
20:33 <@coil> some dude had one bragging about it
20:35 <+AstralSin> nah nm
20:36 <+AstralSin> after looking it up, its the low end sgi
20:36 <@coil> fucking google it
20:37 <+AstralSin> shutup coil
20:43 <@Dagmar> Okay, now I see what Warren was tlaking about
20:43 <@Dagmar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e45J0SCXO5s
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20:44 <@Dagmar> I really don't know what's more disturbing: The fact that this kid has an arsenal of Halo weaponry made with cardboard and tape, or that he um, teabags
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20:57 <@Dagmar> ware: This one's for you
20:58 <@Dagmar> http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/1152/imgp5702ot7.jpg
21:01 <@oddball> Oh, Dagmar, saw your post about looking for scooters... unfortunately new brand named scooters kind of start at $2k
21:05 <@ware> Dagmar: hehe
21:08 <@Dagmar> oddball: I'm noticing.  Ther'e a few options in hte lower range tho
21:08 <@Dagmar> Im also a little peeved that I can't get a straight answer about the 125cc issue.
21:08 <@Dagmar> Gonna call multiple DMV offices on monday about it
21:09 <@Dagmar> The letter of the law would appear to require an M licence for motor-driven cycles
21:10 <@oddball> you have to have a motorcycle license if it's over 50cc
21:10 <@Dagmar> The TN motorcycle handbook makes it entirely unclear
21:10 <@oddball> My suggestion is take the class at nashville tech.  You get the license + insurance discount
21:12 <@Dagmar> Frankly, considering my insurance will be $93/year, I'm having a hard time justifying paying $195 for a course
21:12 <@Dagmar> Woo... nine dollar discount.
21:12 <@oddball> ok
21:13 <@Dagmar> Frankly, my main concern isn't the licence or insurance.
21:13 <@Dagmar> It's called "Parts of White Bridge Road have a 45mph speed limit"
21:14 <@Dagmar> ...so there's mainly that standing in between me and just getting a 50cc engine
21:14 <@Dagmar> This is why the interest in 125cc engines.
21:15 <@oddball> yeah, and the top speed is usually measured using a 90lbs girl
21:16 <@Dagmar> Well, I don't weigh twice thatt
21:17 <@Dagmar> I figure 125cc will probably get me to 45-55mph winding it out
21:17 <@Dagmar> ...and clearance to skip around on 440
21:35 <@oddball> though, I would suggest against hitting 440 with something that weak
21:36 <@oddball> out of curiousity, why a scooter instead of a bike?
21:37 <@coil> scoooterrrrrrr
21:46 <@Dagmar> oddball: Less "it-to-me" weight ratio, *much* less cost.
21:48 <@oddball> ok
21:48 <@Dagmar> Damnit
21:49 <@Dagmar> I had the DS in sleep mode in the middle of a very long FFTA2 battle and hit the goddamn power button when I reopened it
22:01 <@Dagmar> http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202600612&sid=1Oh my
22:01 <@Dagmar> Nevermind that url, it's a mis-paste
22:01 <@Dagmar> But oh my
22:02 <@Dagmar> Apparently Jesse Jackson also used the N-WORD during that interview
22:05 <@Dagmar> Aw man
22:05 <@Dagmar> Blizz is onto Hunters about jacking their crit rates up for chain crits
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22:15 <@ware> http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1133&Itemid=59
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22:41 <@ware> http://www.happysqueeze.com/archives/july-2008-2/zombie-bir/
22:45 <@coil> brains
22:46 <@Dagmar> ware: Just so you'll know, that's a small hawk, which is why it's eating another bird.
22:46 <@Dagmar> Either a hawk or a falcon
22:47 <@Dagmar> Apparently he didn't realize it was pigeon
22:47 <@coil> WTF
22:47 <@coil> neck?
22:48 <@Dagmar> Naaaasty
22:48 <@ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WzL_tu46mg
22:48 <@ware> yeah hawks kick butt
22:48 <@ware> so does that little dog
22:50 <@ware> almost as cool as this little horse! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByB4z62aiUs&NR=1
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23:21 <@coil> hmm, is there anyway to add +2 to the time in irssi?
23:21 <@brimstone> timezone?
23:21 <@coil> ya
23:22 <@brimstone> there's an env var you need to set before starting irssi
23:22 <@coil> oh
23:22 <@coil> cuz i cannot change the time on this shell
23:23 <@coil> TZ ?
23:23 <@coil> looks like it
23:23 <@coil> 21:23:03 TZ=America/Los_Angeles
23:23 <@coil> would they have a San_Antonio ?
23:23 <@Dagmar> possibly.
23:23 <@coil> or should i just set it to chicago
23:23 <@Dagmar> Run tzselect.
23:24 <@Dagmar> There's multiple perfectly valid strings for any given area.
23:24 <@coil> tzselect: not found
23:24 <@Dagmar> tzselect will tell you what TZ should *probably* be set to
23:24 <@Dagmar> Wow now that is just lame
23:24 <@Dagmar> Lemme guess, Ubuntu?
23:24 <@coil> freebsd
23:25 <@Dagmar> Weird.  I take it they're not using glibc6 then?
23:25 <@coil> dunno
23:25 <@Dagmar> Well, basically, tzselect is a little CLI for telling ya what TZ is correct
23:26 <@Dagmar> America/Chicago should be valid as a substitute for CST6CDT
23:26 <@Dagmar> ...and much less arcane to look at.
23:26 <@coil> ya
23:26 <@coil> so i would have to restart irssi? :/
23:26 <@Dagmar> Yes.
23:26 <@Dagmar> TZ is read from the process' environment.
23:26 <@coil> i wish there was a /save every window and server and reconnect to them command
23:26 <@Dagmar> You don't really have any way to set that from within irssi
23:27 <@coil> instead of having to /channel add and /server add
23:27 <@Dagmar> Well, there's an .irssirc I think
23:27 <@coil> for every one
23:27 <@Dagmar> I've got my freenode password tied to a connect event in smoething like that
23:28 <@coil> o
23:29 <@coil> bash: export: `America/Chicago': not a valid identifier
23:29 <@coil> nm, forgot the =
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