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01:18 <@coil> hi ri
01:18 <@coil> hi rhia
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02:59 <@timoguin> anyone have experience with sun servers and managing them via serial?
02:59 <@timoguin> i have a sunfire server that has no output whatsoever when i power up for about 15 minutes.
02:59 <@timoguin> then the login screen comes up.
03:00 <@timoguin> i have a null modem cable connected and minicom says it's connected but i can't get any prompts or responses
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07:12 <@rattle> Morning folks.
07:13 <@I-MOD> mornin
07:13 <@I-MOD> g
07:13 <@aestetix> Ok, stupid question.
07:14 <@I-MOD> supid answer?
07:14 <@I-MOD> :D
07:14 <@aestetix> If I GPL software under a handle, does that have the same legal authority as GPLing under a real name?
07:14 <@rattle> That's actually a good question.
07:15 <@rattle> I don't see why not..
07:15 <@I-MOD> I would say yes, but I don't know the law in that case
07:15 <@Shadow404> if i kick aestetix in the stomach, does anyone care?
07:15 <@I-MOD> aestetix cares
07:15 <@rattle> Only if he doesn't have the energy to kick you back.
07:15 <@aestetix> Well the question boils down to whether a handle has the same legal power as a real name.
07:15 <@Shadow404> heh
07:15 <@aestetix> Since the handle is not certified by the state.
07:15 <@aestetix> However, it might show up on websites or convention programs, etc.
07:16 <@Shadow404> aestetix: is your handle registered to your name in any copyrighted material?
07:16 <@I-MOD> what you use as your name doesn't have to be certified by the state does it?
07:16 <@aestetix> I-MOD: I don't know.
07:16 <@strages> you'd have to prove somehow that you are the sole proprietor of said handle
07:16 <@I-MOD> not really
07:16 <@Shadow404> and that would be almost impossible strages
07:16 <@strages> I agree
07:16 <@I-MOD> since there are probably 200 bill moore's in alabama
07:16 <@aestetix> Shadow404: I don't know.
07:16 <@I-MOD> and umpteen john smiths
07:17 <@aestetix> Possibly....
07:17 <@aestetix> Actually yes.
07:17 <@rattle> aestetix: The more I think about it, I'm pretty sure it would.  If you release a novel under a pen name, you still have copyright protection.  Therefore...
07:17 <@Shadow404> aestetix: do it under yoru real name?
07:17 <@aestetix> It's registered in Elonka's book :)
07:17 <@Shadow404> if its, slightly illegal, go with handle
07:17 <@Shadow404> cause i think handle sorta protects you in that fact
07:17 <@Shadow404> you can tell the law, and how many people use my handle?
07:17 <@Shadow404> you cant prove that handle is me
07:17 <@Shadow404> so it has its upsides
07:18 <@aestetix> Basically, I'm releasing software that's free. I'd like to consider charging for it in the future, but it's not there yet.
07:18 <@aestetix> And it looks like GPL covers that pretty well.
07:18 <@Shadow404> yeah, register under your real name
07:19 <@aestetix> Why?
07:19 <@Shadow404> best way to keep it yours, rather than have some buisness savy asshole, claim your handle and market your code
07:19 <@aestetix> I'm pretty sure at this point it would be hard for someone else to claim my handle.
07:19 <@strages> untrue
07:19 <@Shadow404> if they want your code, they could try
07:20 <@Shadow404> you got my recommendation, how about everyone else?
07:20 <@Shadow404> and the peanut gallery goes silent....
07:20 <@aestetix> Wait.
07:20 <@aestetix> Is nmap GPL?
07:21 <@I-MOD> i thought so...
07:21 <@strages> I'd say look at other software apps that were handled in the same way, ie. Ethereal->Wireshark
07:21  * I-MOD looks
07:21 <@aestetix> I wonder if Fyodor released that under his handle.
07:21 <@aestetix> strages: good point
07:22 <@aestetix> http://nmap.org/book/man-author.html there is that
07:22 <@strages> likely, but then again I doubt he'd ever attempt to make profit off it beyond book deals, consulting, etc
07:22 <@Shadow404> most of the code ive seen is under real name like this "Real Name(Handle Here) GPL bla bla"
07:22 <@aestetix> Is Wireshark GPL?
07:23 <@strages> I don't know
07:23 <@strages> it was the only free turn profit app I could think up off the top of my head
07:24 <@aestetix> yes it is
07:24 <@aestetix> yeah name though
07:24 <@Shadow404> so he used name, and not handle?
07:24 <@Shadow404> name is more secure
07:25 <@strages> register the software under your SSN
07:25 <@Shadow404> there may be 200 bill moores (doubt that, but going with imod's example) but how many are going to be writing code
07:25 <@aestetix> Well, I have yet to see another aestetix
07:25 <@aestetix> Ok, follow up question
07:26 <@aestetix> Since this software was written in conjunction with a team effort
07:26 <@Shadow404> ok, you asked for our recommendation but you've been arguing the whole time, just register it under your damn handle
07:26 <@aestetix> How much credit do they get
07:26 <@aestetix> Since I wrote all the software, but it works with their setup
07:26 <@I-MOD> if the code is exclusively yours, you're the author
07:26 <@Shadow404> i would ask them what they think
07:26 <@aestetix> I-MOD: true
07:26 <@Shadow404> thats a personal call id say
07:26 <@aestetix> Well its mine and one others.
07:26 <@I-MOD> you may want to credit them in a non-author manner though
07:27  * Shadow404 steals aestetix rfid tracking code and goes to market
07:27 <@aestetix> lol
07:27 -!- Shadow404 is now known as TheRealAestetix
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07:27  * TheRealAestetix makes millions of stolen code
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07:28 <@aestetix> bah
07:28  * TheRealAestetix retires a billonare
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07:31 <@Shadow404> so if i get the unlocked iphone for tmobile, what do i have to do with my sidekick data service to get it to work with the iphone?
07:31 <@Shadow404> cause i have some stuff routing to dngr.com via tmobile for the data pipe
07:35 <@someninjamaster> dont know
07:35 <@someninjamaster> are you wanting a 3g one or the old one
07:35 <@Shadow404> old one
07:35 <@Shadow404> i dont know if they have unlocked the 3g yet?
07:35 <@someninjamaster> the 3g one has to be activated by at&t
07:37 <@brimstone> what type of data plan
07:38 <@Shadow404> type?
07:38 <@brimstone> yeah, there's the t-zones, just flat edge service, blackberry service
07:38 <@Shadow404> lemme check
07:39 <@Shadow404> sidekick unlimited
07:39 <@brimstone> might have to get that changed to just edge service
07:40 <@Shadow404> wont they tell me i cant since i have a sidekick?
07:40 <@brimstone> tell them you've got a different phone now
07:40 <@brimstone> they're gonna figure out you have an iphone
07:41 <@Shadow404> oh, so they dont care?
07:41 <@Shadow404> as long as you dont blatently tell them why you need edge?
07:46 <@brimstone> probably not
07:46 <@brimstone> or tell them you got a new phone
07:46 <@brimstone> and it's not a sidekick
07:46 <@Shadow404> ok
07:46 <@Shadow404> fair enough
07:46 <@brimstone> i mean, they don't really care you have an iphone
07:47 <@brimstone> at&t cares you do, but not t-mobile
07:47 <@Shadow404> cool
07:47 <@Shadow404> any chance you know the price for edge unlimited?
07:47 <@brimstone> i *think* it's $40
07:47 <@Shadow404> doesnt show on my account cause it only shows choices for the sidkick port
07:47 <@Shadow404> ouchie
07:47 <@Shadow404> sidekick is only 20
07:50 <@rattle> Wait a minute...
07:50 <@Shadow404> dammit, now tmobile website fucks up on me when im trying to figure it out
07:50 <@Shadow404> their site is so buggy
07:51 <@rattle> The president just schedule a press conference on top of Bernanke's testimony to the Senate..
07:51 <@Shadow404> of course he did
07:51 <@rattle> Something about that doesn't sit right with me...  Kind of like watching a lump of shit flying through the air toward a fan..
07:51 <@Shadow404> heh
07:52 <@Shadow404> what tmobile phones use edge?
07:52 <@rattle> The Bernanke show starts at 10am.  Bush does live at 10:20.
07:52 <@Shadow404> blackberries?
07:52 <@rattle> Do the bank runs start at 10:30?
07:53 <@brimstone> the blackberries use the blackberry service
07:53 <@brimstone> i guess their windows mobile ones use edge?
07:53 <@Shadow404> ok
07:54 <@Shadow404> yeah, the wave is edge
07:54 <@Shadow404> er, wing
07:55 <@Shadow404> well this is odd
07:57 <@Shadow404> give me a sec, ill upload pic brimstone
07:58 <@Shadow404> http://www.shadow404.com/143.sizes@tmobile_odd.JPG?size1=O
07:59 <@brimstone> maybe only $20 then?
07:59 <@Shadow404> well, this odd
07:59 <@brimstone> i think $40 might have been for the family plan then
07:59 <@Shadow404> cause they "purposely" placed instant and text messaging into another group
08:00 <@Shadow404> but i only used like less than 100 sms a month if you dont include twitter, and i can just get those in daily thread format via email if i wanted
08:02 <@brimstone> or read it online
08:02 <@Shadow404> yeah, but i like it via email, since my gmail is always up at work, hence my screenshot
08:02 <@Shadow404> i whited out all propiertary stuff
08:03 <@brimstone> yeah, i noticed
08:07 <@aestetix> rattle: when you getting into NYC?
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08:17 <@brimstone> Curbob!
08:17 <@oddball> god damnit... one of the providers downstairs was making noises about people should know my home/cell number because the server went down this weekend, and I didn't take care of it until 7:30am Monday.
08:17 < Curbob> sup?
08:17 <@sdodson> unce unce
08:17 <@sdodson> CURBOB!
08:17 <@Shadow404> oddball: kick his ass!!
08:17 <@oddball> I'm not being paid enough to be 24/7 on call, nor is it in my contract.
08:17 <@brimstone> yay! i have water reflections now!
08:18 <@brimstone> horray!
08:18 < Curbob> hey sdodson, I'm going to be in Raleigh on the 25-26, some of us are meeting for food on friday night, see the forums
08:19 <@oddball> I simply told her that I had it back up before the start of buisness day on Monday, and that's all we guaranty.
08:20 <@oddball> My boss has my cell, as does the VP and the prez... no one else needs it.
08:22 <@sdodson> Curbob: Yerp!
08:22 <@sdodson> brimstone: what video card?
08:23 <@sdodson> Curbob: you doing hope or no?
08:23 < Curbob> nope, defcon
08:23 < Curbob> brimstone, I have the 8800gts, it's ok but it runs soooo hot
08:24 <@brimstone> sdodson: 7600gs!
08:24 <@brimstone> yay!
08:24 < Curbob> nice
08:24 <@sdodson> brimstone: word! I have a 7950GT, I think I can wait another year before upgrading again
08:25 <@brimstone> eh, $90 card
08:25 <@sdodson> Just can't run things at very high settings
08:25 <@brimstone> and it makes TF2 playable again
08:27 < Synx_hm_> now the second time Dish Networks has called me a hour after the install guy was susposed to show up and reschedule for 3 days later
08:29 <@Shadow404> fuckers
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08:29 <@Shadow404> lesson learned, dont go with dish networks
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08:29 < Synx_hm> i guess huh
08:29 < Synx_hm> oh oh so get this
08:30 < Synx_hm> im having a sprinkler system put in... so i call up the utility marking people to have them mark my gas/power and telco lines
08:30 < Synx_hm> but... the sprinkler guys decided to trench in the front yard, where i assume they knew the gas line ran before the people marked the yard, but after the fact tell me they dont want to trench the back yard where only the telco stuff is...
08:31 < Synx_hm> so the guy comes to mark, and they dug right down the line about 5 inches off to the side haha
08:31 < Synx_hm> those fuckers
08:32 <@someninjamaster> haha
08:32 <@someninjamaster> Synx_hm: you back in the us
08:32 <@oddball> dumbasses
08:32 < Synx_hm> ya
08:32 < Synx_hm> :)
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08:35 <@someninjamaster> sup wizardpc
08:35 <@wizardpc> j0
08:35 <@wizardpc> TFA meeting tonight
08:35 < Synx_hm> i am really bummed i cant get my canon lide scanner working in linux :(
08:35 <@someninjamaster> i wish i could make it
08:36 <@wizardpc> you get your permit yet?
08:36 <@someninjamaster> haha
08:36 <@someninjamaster> hahahaha
08:36 <@someninjamaster> hahahahahaha
08:36 <@wizardpc> ?
08:36 <@someninjamaster> apparently they are just now getting to the march ones
08:36  * someninjamaster eye busts a blood vessle
08:37 <@wizardpc> ummm...I't "Shall issue within 90 days"
08:37 <@someninjamaster> according to one forum they are saying it could take as long as 120 now
08:37 <@wizardpc> I got mine in 2 weeks, this time last year
08:37 <@wizardpc> well, THE LAW says they have to give you one within 90 days
08:37 <@wizardpc> so sue 'em
08:38 <@I-MOD> talking about concealed carry?
08:38 <@wizardpc> yah
08:38 <@I-MOD> mine took 3.5 months
08:38 <@I-MOD> applied in march and just recently got it
08:38 < Synx_hm> have to take a test/
08:38 < Synx_hm> ?
08:39 <@I-MOD> no
08:39 < Synx_hm> just fill out an application?
08:39 <@I-MOD> pretty much
08:39 < Synx_hm> cool
08:39 <@wizardpc> and take a class
08:39 < Synx_hm> id like to get mine here in louisiana
08:39 <@I-MOD> nope
08:39 <@I-MOD> no class fo rme
08:39 <@wizardpc> what state are you in
08:39 <@ware> I-MOD: </3
08:39 <@I-MOD> just hand them paper and $10 ($20 for the plastic card)
08:39 <@I-MOD> alabama
08:39 <@ware> no #phneak lubz
08:40 <@I-MOD> too many servers
08:40 <@ware> no enough pr0se
08:40 <@ware> too many packets
08:40 <@ware> not enough h0ez
08:40 <@Shadow404> to many tickets
08:40 <@ware> too*
08:40 <@ware> jesus
08:40 <@Shadow404> fu
08:40 <@ware> JEES US
08:40 <@I-MOD> where??!!?
08:40 <@ware> FU CHAN LEE
08:41 <@Shadow404> 5 dollah'
08:41  * ware is a happy tomatoe
08:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Setec Astronomy?
08:41 <@wizardpc> someninjamaster: You want me to ask John about it tonight?
08:41 <@someninjamaster> yeah
08:41 <@someninjamaster> that would be awesome
08:41 <@someninjamaster> i got fingerprinted on the 2nd
08:41 <@wizardpc> k I'll let you know tomorrow. He's prolly gonna want to know if you would be willing to sue
08:41 <@ware> oh gettin your permit?
08:42 <@wizardpc> you have standing
08:42 <@someninjamaster> yep
08:42 <@someninjamaster> wizardpc?
08:42 <+MxZBot> wizardpc is engaged to a woman already
08:43 <@someninjamaster> ware i need one the fbi is afraid to get out of their car at the hc
08:43 <@wizardpc> LOL!
08:43 <@ware> yah haha
08:43 <@someninjamaster> i wish my name was Naifeh then i would have had mine already
08:43 <@wizardpc> mxzbot: forget wizardpc
08:43 <@Corydon76-dig> There are no dangerous neighborhoods, only dangerous people.
08:43 <@ware> saturday some chick just walked into HQ asking for money
08:43 <@ware> i was like wtf
08:43 <@someninjamaster> wizardpc: Naifeh got his in one day
08:44 <@wizardpc> yeah I know
08:44 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: someone didn't shut the door securely?
08:44 <@ware> we were walking in and out
08:44 <@ware> at the time we were in
08:47 < Synx_hm> wtf is AFP?  (network file system or something?)
08:47 <@wizardpc> Y'all need a big ole "not open to the public" sign
08:48 <@wizardpc> then, if someone busts in like that, you can shoot them
08:48 <@someninjamaster> Synx_hm: its basicly apples ftp
08:48 <@wizardpc> word will get around
08:48 <@ware> i think a motion-tracking sentry with a toy gun on it would work
08:48 <@someninjamaster> but it only works with macs
08:48 < Synx_hm> someninjamaster: ahh, same protocol different name, or did they have to fuck with it?
08:48 < Synx_hm> oh
08:48 < Synx_hm> those fuckers
08:48 <@ware> and a red light
08:48 <@ware> hehe
08:48 <@someninjamaster> Synx_hm: apple filetransfer protocal
08:48 < Synx_hm> thanks
08:49 <@someninjamaster> ware: i have a big bucket of brass we can dump outside the door
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08:51 <@ware> rofl that'd be awesome
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09:07 <@aestetix> ware: your sister made the news
09:07 <@aestetix> http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article4332635.ece
09:07 <@aestetix> "I had sex with my brother but I don't feel guilty"
09:09 <@brimstone> what about the brother? how does he feel? no one asks about how the man feels!
09:16 <@aestetix> Well.
09:16 <@aestetix> He's a guy.
09:16 <@aestetix> He got laid.
09:16 <@aestetix> He's probably pretty happy.
09:18 <@brimstone> i guess they do stuff differently over in the uk
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09:49 <@wizardpc> So today I got my first paycheck since November that didnt have a travel bonus in it.
09:49 <@wizardpc> it was sad looking
09:49 <@oddball> I'll trade ya
09:52 <@oddball> Oh dear... Naienko spotted the "Bubblegum" colored one of these last night at Best Buy and now wants it to go with her eeePC: http://www.simpletech.com/products/storage/signature-mini/
09:54 <@oddball> although, the pictures on that sight don't do it justice.
09:54 <@wizardpc> she gonna duct tape it to the top? cuz that'd be funny
10:01 <@ware> http://www.mikeonads.com/2008/07/13/using-your-browser-url-history-estimate-gender/
10:01 <@ware> 95% male hehe
10:01 <@critch> http://craphound.com/littlebrother/Cory_Doctorow_-_Little_Brother.htm
10:02 <@brimstone> ware: heh, i got 50/50
10:02 <@brimstone> but then, i don't save history
10:02 <@wizardpc> well...
10:03 <@ware> mine is only a few days old
10:03 <@critch> There are only 3 sites in the list that have below a 1 ratio, so I ended up getting 99% male.
10:03 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, cave be0tches and h0ez!
10:03 <@someninjamaster> Dolemite: any pictures up
10:04 <@critch> and a disturbing number of sites listed that are above 2
10:04 <@Dolemite> someninjamaster : I'm uploading now
10:05 <@someninjamaster> cool
10:06 <@wizardpc> 62%
10:06 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm apparently 76% female
10:06 <@wizardpc> ahem
10:06 <@wizardpc> well, you do like boys an awful lot
10:06 <@rhia> "Likelihood of you being MALE is 96%"  guess i don't have enough fluffy pink bunny sites in history
10:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Browsing history is also skewed, as the JS doesn't work in my primary browser
10:09 <@someninjamaster> 92% male
10:10 <@wizardpc> I have lots of banking and insurance stuff in my history. Apparently that's girly
10:10 <@rhia> wizardpc: ahh, THAT'S where that 4% on mine comes up ;)
10:11 <@someninjamaster> haha myspace dropped me down
10:11 <@someninjamaster> and all my gun sites brought me up
10:12 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: bookstores are apparently overwhelmingly female, too
10:12 <@wizardpc> I can see that
10:12 <@Corydon76-dig> and Pizza Hut
10:13 <@Shadow404> oh come on wizardpc, you buy books cause you like romance novels
10:21 <@rhia> http://www.partiallyclips.com/
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10:35 < Synx_hm> holy shit paul mccartney died?
10:35 < Synx_hm> damn it
10:35 < Synx_hm> never midn
10:35 <@brimstone> paul is dead
10:36 <@Dolemite> That bitch Heather Mills is behind it, I'm sure of it!
10:36 <@Dolemite> The one legged tramp!
10:37 < Synx_hm> wtf, they marked all my utilities except the power lines
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11:06 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, ping
11:10 <@SkyDog_> pong.
11:11 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, looking for the ToxicBBQ movie...
11:12 <@dc0de> Beef... it's what's for dinner!
11:13 <@SkyDog_> Um. lemme see where I put that.
11:14 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: You guys doing lunch today?
11:14 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, what day are you flying in to Vegas?
11:14 <@Dolemite> yeah, Mirage said around 11:15
11:15 <@SkyDog_> Thursday at around 10AM.
11:15 <@dc0de> cool
11:15 <@SkyDog_> I will head that way after I find dc0de video.
11:15 <@dc0de> you getting a car, or going to taxi it?
11:17 <@SkyDog_> Van.
11:17 <@Evilpig> <-- limo
11:18 <@dc0de> damn... you bringing a bunch of shit? or just going to be ferrying a bunch?
11:18 <@SkyDog_> http://129.59.238.239/Beeffordinner.mov
11:18 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, thanks.... :)
11:18 <@SkyDog_> We got one last year. It worked well for getting everyone to the Toxic bbq.
11:19 <@ladymerlin> asnd getting the 19 gallens of vodka
11:19 <@SkyDog_> Depends. I might get an econobox.
11:19 <@SkyDog_> yeah. that too.
11:19 <@SkyDog_> we won't be getting vodka like last year, but it worked well for what we needed it for.
11:19 <@ware> guy who founded Webroot is dead
11:19 <@SkyDog_> Everyone is croaking lately.
11:19 <@ladymerlin> id much rather the hotel take care of the bar
11:19 <@Dolemite> ribbet
11:20 <@ware> well, looks like he jumped off a 1000ft cliff in hawaii
11:20 <@Evilpig> can we nominate people for that croaking list?
11:20 <@SkyDog_> I dont' think so.
11:20 <@SkyDog_> Ok, heading to lunch./
11:20 <@Evilpig> damn.  guess ware is safe for another day
11:21 <@ware> :(
11:21 <@Evilpig> I know.  i'm sad about it too
11:40 <@ware> Dagmar: ping
11:40 <@ware> Dagmar: XBOX360 or PS3 ?
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11:51 <+eryc> 360
11:52 <+eryc> what is webroot?
11:53 <@ware> malware prevention
11:53 <+eryc> oh maybe some spyware guy pushed him
11:53 <+eryc> 360 has netflix
11:54 <+eryc> and it works more better
11:54 <+eryc> i have all 3 tho
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12:20  * Catonic yawns
12:22 < Synx_hm> anyone have a wii?
12:22 <@oddball> yep
12:22 < Synx_hm> hacked?
12:22 <@oddball> nope
12:22 < Synx_hm> i just loaded the homebrew channel on mine, im just curius what cool things others are doing with them
12:23 <@oddball> shockingly enough, I play games on mine
12:23 <@Catonic> Does anyone know why the developed gang signs?
12:23 < Synx_hm> i really wana get mario cart
12:23 <@Catonic> *they. I believe it was so deaf gang-bangers could participate in warfare.
12:23 < Synx_hm> but the new lego indy jones rocks
12:26 <@oddball> yes it does.
12:26 <@oddball> As does Boom Blox.
12:26 < Synx_hm> i need a new sensor bar as rayman doesn't like to play on mine but other than that i love my wii more than my 360
12:27 < Synx_hm> just wish my 360 hadn't been banned :(
12:27 <+eryc> hey does anyone know a flash designer?
12:27 <+eryc> who needs an extra gig
12:27 <+eryc> i have been askd to ask for a friends friend who is an actress/singer
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13:09 <@Evilpig>  saw a 4 wheel pck on amazon or someplace the other day for mario kart
13:09 <@Evilpig> it looked tempting but something i'd rarely ever use
13:09 < Synx_hm> Anyone have a quick idea on an easy to gain access to a mail server records via terminal and back all the email into a .pst file?
13:10 < Synx_hm> My friend changed his MX over to another server and wants to gain access to all the old email that is still on mine
13:10 <@ShadowHntr> use an email client to download the msgs
13:10 <@Evilpig> just one account?
13:10 <@ShadowHntr> and save to pst that way
13:10 < Synx_hm> there are a few accounts
13:10 < Synx_hm> however i cant log into the mail because both the domain and mx point to new servers now
13:11 < Synx_hm> i dont have control of his DNS settings anymore
13:11 <@Evilpig> easist i know of is to log into the account and then make a personal store then set that to the default delivery location and it will download the entire mailbox
13:11 < Synx_hm> i can however i think modify his account settings on my server so i can log into a shell for him
13:11 < Synx_hm> this is on my dreamhost server btw
13:11 <@Evilpig> but for more than one user that is a pita
13:11 < Synx_hm> its only a few users
13:13 < Synx_hm> err hang on a sec
13:14 < Synx_hm> they have another domain i can point the clients to w00t
13:14 <@Evilpig> novell just told me my virtual groupwise server is toast... going to piss me off fixing it
13:15 <@Evilpig> he suggested i repartion the dom0 and give the vm a raw section of disk to work with to try to avoid a double filesystem fuckup
13:25  * ware login:
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13:49 <@GodFix> http://www.cinemassivedisplays.com/images/MasterP_30D.jpg
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14:10 <@Evilpig> bah someone hit my xm antenna on the roof cause I am getting ass for signal in here
14:11 <@brimstone> hit or hid?
14:11 <@Evilpig> hit
14:11 <@Evilpig> we've had ppl up there working on the a/c units and shit so i'm sure they've hit it
14:11 <@Evilpig> maybe even covered it in tar.
14:11 <@brimstone> xm online?
14:12 <@Evilpig> I have that going.  but I have an xm unit that is tied to the phone system for on hold music
14:12 < Synx_hm> ive got sirius, cept i canceled its about 5 months ago when i left the country, and the radio was never turned on untill i got back home
14:12 < Synx_hm> hello free unlimited sirius
14:12 <@Evilpig> they'll get you in the next channel update
14:13 < Synx_hm> they tried to last week
14:13 < Synx_hm> it updated the channels
14:13 < Synx_hm> then popped up a subscription message
14:13 <@Evilpig> heh
14:13 < Synx_hm> i hit the powerbutton and all was well
14:13 < Synx_hm> ;)
14:14 < Synx_hm> i never really like the quality of the audio anyways
14:14 < Synx_hm> it sounds horrid on all but the top pop stations
14:15 < Synx_hm> you'd think they would realize the problem and cut down on the number of shitty channels and up the channel bandwidth
14:15 < Synx_hm> but nope, more and more channels and less and less bitrates
14:16 < Synx_hm> or so it appears from the listening point of view
14:16 <@brimstone> what's 500+ channels worth if they all sound like crap?
14:16 < Synx_hm> yup
14:16 < Synx_hm> and i think thats their problem (both xm and sirius)
14:16 <@brimstone> like tvs, the more channels you have, the less likely there's something good playing
14:16 < Synx_hm> and it doesnt seem they are going to fix the issue
14:17 < Synx_hm> on sirius at least the alt and indy channels play the same damn songs all day too
14:17 < Synx_hm> shit is killing me
14:17 <@Evilpig> xm is on like a 6-8 hour rotation on the songs
14:17 <@brimstone> xm's alt/indy hasn't gotten repedative yet, but i don't listen to it frequently
14:18 < Synx_hm> why do they have to do a song rotation, why cant they just cue up some new shit once in a while
14:18 < Synx_hm> fuck id run a station for free if that meant good new music to listen to
14:18 <@Evilpig> as far as sound quality.  I am not listening on a high dollar home audio system.  I'm listen on the 10 year old factory speakers in my truck while flying down the interstate with the windows down.  it sounds the same
14:19 < Synx_hm> ya, and ive got the stock system in my car which already sounds nasty, but with sirius it sounds like i am listening to music in a tin can
14:19 <@brimstone> oooh, you got new speakers
14:19 <@brimstone> canned tunes
14:19 < Synx_hm> haha nice
14:21 < Synx_hm> guess i cant bitch though as i am not paying for it anymore
14:21 < Synx_hm> har har, that will teach them
14:27 < Synx_hm> *please dont report me to the man*
14:32 <@ware> Password:
14:32 <@brimstone> bananahammock
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14:32 <@brimstone> wait, this isn't a shell...
14:32 <@ShadowHntr> lol
14:32 <@ware> :P
14:35 <@Evilpig> ware, Dolemite, notlarry, Mirage, Dagmar:  patch day.  did you buy your gigantique bags yet?  http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38082
14:35 <@ware> :(
14:35 <@ware> i msg'd you for bags a long time ago
14:35 <@ware> lol
14:35 <@Evilpig> you aren't worth a 1200g bag
14:36 <@Evilpig> my warrior got 4 earlier
14:36 <@ware> oh dayum.
14:36 <@ware> thats insane lol
14:36 <@Evilpig> only added 8 slots but I needed the room
14:36 <@Dolemite> nope, haven't logged on yet
14:37 <@Dolemite> did AuctionGimp like the hood?
14:37 <@Evilpig> I haven't been on gimp yet
14:37 <@Dolemite> ah
14:37 <@Dolemite> I didn't have spider's silk on me to make that robe for you yet, but I sent you a hat since you had a bare head
14:39 <@Evilpig> what silk do you need
14:39 <@Dolemite> just spider's silk
14:39 <@Dolemite> x2
14:40 <@Dolemite> I just need to go kill a bunch of spiders and loot it
14:40 <@Evilpig> just regular?  i'll check when I get on later.  I know I have thick, iron, shadow silk but not sure about regular
14:40 <@Evilpig> I have a bag with different types of silk in it
14:40 <@Dolemite> yeah, I had some thick and shadow, but I've been using all the regular to make the robes and sell at auction house
14:40 <@Evilpig> actually i can do that from work.
14:42 <@Dolemite> pics from the cave trip
14:42 <@Dolemite> http://www.e-comsultant.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=9802
14:47 <@Evilpig> you didn't send me a hat.  you sent me a lvl 32 cloak
14:48 <@ware> Evilpig: PUT IT ON YOUR HEAD AND STOP COMPLAINGING.
14:50 <@Evilpig> i lied.  no regular silk.  I have shadow, ironweb and thick
14:50 <@Evilpig> oh and netherweb
14:50 <@ware> http://www.e-comsultant.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=9853
14:50 <@ware> NotLarry buttcracking the little kid?
14:54 <@Dolemite> You have to feel sorry for the little girl behind him.  She was blinded for the rest of the tour.
14:55 <@ware> BLAH.
14:55 <@ware> fckn have to goto Columbia
14:55 <@ware> i need to fix my freakin bike.
14:58 <@SkyDog_> So you're not coming to the HC tonight?
14:59 <@Dolemite> sounds like if he does he'll need to stop off for tampons first
14:59 <@SkyDog_> Pretty much.
15:00 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: can't you loan him a few of yours to get him through the night?
15:01 <@SkyDog_> I quit using them when I went thru menopause.
15:03 <@Evilpig> heh
15:03 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: did you try to send me the azure silk hood?
15:03 <@Evilpig> cause if so it totally doesn't match my red dress
15:04 <@Dolemite> yeah, that was me
15:04 <@Evilpig> there isn't one in the mailbox i just saw it on the tailoring trainer
15:04 <@Dolemite> weird
15:05 <@Dolemite> you need to help me get the carrot on a stick
15:05 <@Evilpig> http://firewall.icscci.com/~wilbur/doesntmatch.jpg
15:05 <@Evilpig> k
15:06 <@Dolemite> I think it looks cute
15:06 <@Evilpig> the fish really makes the outfit
15:11 <@dc0de> Evilpig, something's wrong with that picture, I just can't put my finger on it.
15:12 <@Evilpig> man in a dress?
15:14 <@dc0de> perhaps...
15:15 <@dc0de> no high heels?
15:15 <@Evilpig> if I could get some
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15:39 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: I have a spare bed, and I need to defray costs.
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15:42 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: for defcon that is
15:43 <@dc0de> Catonic, are you seeking room-sharers?
15:43 <@dc0de> by asking a Goon (who get's a free room) to share with you?
15:43  * dc0de is confused.
15:44 <@Catonic> dammit.
15:44 <@someninjamaster> its a trap
15:44 <@Catonic> I'm booked into circus circus.
15:44 <@Catonic> but I'd love to share a room with you and your CPAP machine.
15:46 <@Catonic> scary. I bought almost $60 in gas last night and it hasn't posted yet.
15:47 <@brimstone> sweet jesus people, try the defaults, honestly
15:48  * Catonic sets the phaser to "defaults" and pushes the trigger while aiming at brimstone
15:48 <@brimstone> if you end me, you win all my customers
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15:53 <@Catonic> dc0de: I'm going to be there for a while longer than most, and I have a bed there at circus circus. So I'm looking for someone to take the spare bed and leave me a few $$$ for hookers.
15:54 <@Catonic> wow, my nipples are *hard*.
15:57 <@aestetix> wow
15:57 <@aestetix> I did not need to walk into this
15:59 <@Evilpig> turned you on?
15:59  * dc0de backs away.
15:59 <@Evilpig> Catonic: why would anyone want to share a room with you if you are gonna have hookers in there that will steal their wallet after she's done mocking you?
16:03 <@brimstone> hookers shouldn't judge people, seriously
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16:12 <@wizardpc> has anyone heard of a Cisco VPN concentrator dropping connections from Virtual Machines, but not physical machines?
16:20  * coil wears one of his phreaknic shirts to work today
16:21  * wizardpc would be escorted out of the building if he did that
16:31 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardpc: I regularly wear my bathrobe to work
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16:36 <@wizardpc> well if I worked at home and wore a PN shirt, there wouldnt be anyone there to escort me out
16:44 <@Catonic> Evilpig: why do you feel this need to belittle everyone around you?
16:44 <@Evilpig> not everyone.  just you, ware and skydog
16:46 <@Catonic> Interesting choice of people.
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17:04 <+polerin> wizardpc: I used to wear my phreaknic shirts in
17:04 <+polerin> .. though not the PN-5 one.  At least, not openly.. i had it coverd up one time
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17:42 <@sdodson> catonic: hi
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18:10 <@Catonic> sdodson: sup
18:11 <@coil> sdodson:
18:11 <@coil> hi
18:11 <@sdodson> coil: hi
18:11 <@coil> sup
18:11 <@sdodson> Catonic: you were pinging me about something
18:15 <@Catonic> What day?
18:20 <@sdodson> Catonic: 23 hours ago
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18:25 <@sdodson> aestetix: omg why couldn't the hope site folks present the talks in three columns?
18:25 <@coil> lol
18:29 <@sdodson> aestetix: you didn't design this shit did you?
18:30 <@Catonic> worthless cunt.
18:31  * polerin blinks
18:31 <@sdodson> Catonic: who dat?
18:32 <@Catonic> aestetix of course.
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18:33 <@sdodson> Catonic: something different or just my rant?
18:35 <@Catonic> is this abuse or argument?
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18:36 < Synx_hm> omg i want to date a suicidegirl so damn bad
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18:36 <@brimstone> so you can collect on the insurance?
18:36 < Synx_hm> because they are all so fucking hot!
18:36 < Synx_hm> suicidegirls.com
18:36 < Synx_hm> and i dig the tats
18:36 <@brimstone> not all of them, one's in town
18:36 <@brimstone> she's kinda retarded
18:36 < Synx_hm> most
18:37 < Synx_hm> ok many
18:37 <@brimstone> erm, some
18:38 <@sdodson> Those girls scare me.
18:39 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwJwSe5JzXM
18:39 <@Catonic> brimstone: shortbus?
18:43 <@sdodson> Catonic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2v-AkSj260
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18:47 <@brimstone> sdodson: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
19:09 <+AstralSin> evenin
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19:29 <@ware> any of yall have ventrilo?
19:33 <@brimstone> boo
19:33 <@brimstone> get a real voip client
19:35 <@ware> i dun no how2
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19:43 <@someninjamaster> ware: you cant win anything lately
19:48 <@coil> hi
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20:17 <@sdodson> brimstone: OMG YOURE GOING DOWN!
20:17 <@sdodson> ware: yez i haz
20:18 <@ware> we haz it workin
20:19 <@sdodson> ware: ORLY!?
20:19 <@sdodson> I hear there's a linux client coming RSN
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20:22 <@ware> yah i hope so
20:22 <@ware> its being buggy / laggy
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20:46 <@sdodson> What should I netflix next?
20:54 < Synx_hm_> ugh not enough water pressure
20:54 < Synx_hm_> they have to come back tomorrow and split off a few of the lines and make them seperate stations
21:11 <+sasquatc4> that sounds like a shitty movie to rent
21:12 <@brimstone> was the hotel for phreaknic torn down?
21:15 <@SkyDog_> The days inn off briley is, as is the Drury inn.
21:15 <@SkyDog_> The one we have been using is not.
21:16 <@brimstone> so, the one for the past two or three years is still standing?
21:16 <@SkyDog_> Yes.
21:17 <@SkyDog_> As far as I know. Should I drive by and check???
21:17 <@brimstone> no, just came up at dinner
21:17 <@brimstone> thanks!
21:18 <@SkyDog_> Cool.
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21:50 < geoffscoffee> evenin
21:52 <@coil> hi
21:55 < geoffscoffee> havin fun?
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> man
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> i picked up some shit off freecycle this morning
21:55 <@ShadowHntr> got some pretty neat stuff
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> two desktop computers
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> a fax machine (multi-purpose center by brother)
21:56 <@coil> neato
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> and an old hi-fi stereo system
21:56 <@coil> but whio the hell faxes anymore
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> coil: mine and my ex-roommate's job does
21:56 <@ShadowHntr> we have to fax in our work order paperwork to an image server
21:57 <@coil> ahh
21:57 <@coil> well that's for business
21:57 <@ShadowHntr> but the main jewel was one of the desktops
21:57 <@ShadowHntr> AMD Athlon XP 2100+ based system
21:57 <@ShadowHntr> no graphics card or hard disk
21:57 <@coil> woot
21:57 <@ShadowHntr> but i've added a spare gfx card
21:57 <@ShadowHntr> and will put in a few hard drives
21:58 <@ShadowHntr> and it'll make a fine server
21:58 <@ShadowHntr> :)
21:58 <@coil> lol
21:59 < geoffscoffee> sweet
22:11 <@SkyDog_> geoffscoffee: You good to go for coffe this year at PN12?
22:12 <@coil> how do i pay for something on ebay and have it shipped somewhere else?
22:13 <@coil> through paypal
22:14 < Synx_hm_> i think my kitten is tripping balls
22:14 < Synx_hm_> she not shit just did a backflip to a pounce on my stomach
22:14 < Synx_hm_> i think she is trying to eat my stomach
22:17 <@critch> http://www.splitreason.com/design/design_486cde5d6f94b/4
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22:30 <@Jagobah> ShadowHntr :)
22:30 <@Jagobah> I have a similar system for that purpose !
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22:32 < geoffscoffee> sorry, Sky, stepped away
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22:35 < geoffscoffee> DOH! wrong icon
22:37 <@ShadowHntr> Jagobah: cool :)
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22:48 <@polerin> ok
22:48 <@polerin> I just tried to hit ctrl-z on my dishwasher
22:48 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
22:48 <@polerin> I'm done for the night.
22:48 <@polerin> I had the top rack loaded, then decided to switch something
22:49 <@polerin> didn't like it, so my first thought was "undo."  and my hand started to make the movement
22:49 <@coil> lol
22:49 <@coil> polerin: lay off the crack
22:49 <@polerin> I sorta looked at it for a half second and ...  then just sighed.
22:49 <@polerin> I've been coding too long today :P
22:49 <@coil> that sux
22:49 <@polerin> :P
22:50 <@polerin> on the other hand I've really discovered that I do really need to get *nix up and working on this machine
22:50 <@polerin> :P
22:51 <@coil> windows sux
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