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00:54 <@coil> iceweasel 3 yet?
00:54 <@coil> i do not see it
00:54 <@coil> im getting tired of this damn 2.0.0.14
01:01 <+juice> ?
01:03 <@coil> firefox
01:03 <@coil> but debian renamed it iceweasel
01:09 <+juice> umm okay
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05:21 <@aestetix> coil: iceweasel sucks
05:21 <@aestetix> I should know. I'm stuck with it right now
05:22 <@coil> just formatted and installed fedora 9
05:25 <@aestetix> hey
05:25 <@aestetix> you know much about xen?
05:26 <@aestetix> I'm trying to figure out how to allow universal respositories
05:26 <@aestetix> to see if firefox3 is in it
05:28 <@coil> nah i can't even get shit running
05:35 <@coil> has there been any viruses made for linux?
05:35 <@coil> and were they successful?
05:36 <@aestetix> uh
05:37 <@aestetix> define virus
05:37 <@coil> something that hides itself, propigates, causes descruction
05:37 <@coil> you know...
05:38 <@aestetix> so a computer program
05:38 <@aestetix> yes, those do exist
05:38 <@aestetix> You're really asking whether it has mass propagated through lots of systems
05:39 <@aestetix> For the most part, I'd say no, because linux general has real protection enabled.
05:39 <@coil> okay, fine
05:39 <@aestetix> I mean, how many people are going to sudo virus
05:39 <@coil> people are saying that if linux was the main os, there would be viruses like what windows has
05:40 < AstralSin> those people don't really understand how linux protects itself, or how viruses work
05:40 < AstralSin> sure, there would be more malware for it but it wouldn't be the same malware as we see with windows machines
05:40 <@coil> they just like vista cuz it's pretty
05:40 <@aestetix> I mean, I guess you could hit it with the law of large numbers.
05:40 <@coil> even though osx has been pretty for years
05:40 <@aestetix> I mean, how many sysadmins log into x as root?
05:40 <@aestetix> That's really the only way a virus could mass propagate.
05:41 <@coil> well what about a virus that root's the local system?
05:41 <@coil> then mass propagates
05:41 <@aestetix> You mean like taking advantage of an exploit?
05:41 <@coil> ya
05:41 <@aestetix> Ok, so that means every system has to be running that program, that specific version of it, and have it located in the same area.
05:42 <@aestetix> I mean, it's possible...
05:42 <@coil> i just said whatever
05:42 < AstralSin> that would have to be one patient virus writer, though
05:43 <@aestetix> I mean, you understand how windows works? That the default user account is an admin (in xp, at least), and the windows scripting language lets you do all kinds of shit?
05:43 <@coil> ya
05:43 <@aestetix> That's why it's such a problem.
05:43 <@coil> im just making sure im right
05:43 <@aestetix> Yeah.
05:43 <@aestetix> I mean no offense
05:43 <@coil> that's it's not easy to make a windows virus for linux
05:43 <@aestetix> But the people who say that stuff about linux viruses
05:43 <@aestetix> are the same people who think gnome/kde is linux.
05:44 <@coil> aestetix: do you know chris pirillo?
05:44 <@aestetix> That name rings a bell.
05:44 <@aestetix> Who is he?
05:44 <@coil> well he has a chatroom
05:44 <@coil> and theres noobs
05:44 <@aestetix> ....
05:44 <@coil> and other general douchbags
05:44 <@aestetix> What chatroom? huh?
05:44 <@coil> live.pirillo.com
05:45 <@aestetix> And why does this matter to me?
05:45 <@coil> nothing matters.
05:45 <@coil> this is chat
05:45 <@aestetix> No I mean, why are you bringing it up?
05:45 <@coil> because i was talking about linux v irus in that channel
05:46 <@aestetix> ok
05:46 <@aestetix> But yeah. With kids like that....
05:46 <@aestetix> It's usually windows users who have played with linux a little bit, or know what it is.
05:47 <@coil> liek omg i tried lunix one night and i hated it111111
05:47 <@aestetix> Basically.
05:47 <@coil> i couldnt gegt installed so it suxx!!1lol
05:47 <@aestetix> What was the quote.... one year at Defcon.... from Richard Thieme...
05:47 <@coil> ima noob at heart
05:48 <@aestetix> "When you understand how UNIX works, you really start to understand how the world works. When you understand how Windows works, you understand how Windows works."
05:48 <@coil> lol
05:48 <@coil> unix is the world?
05:49 <@aestetix> It's more that the architects of UNIX were programmers who based the OS off things in the world.
05:49 <@aestetix> So that when you get into the meat of it, you start seeing a lot of similarities.
05:50 <@coil> based the os off things in the world?
05:50 <@aestetix> Patterns. The world is composed of math, right?
05:50 <@aestetix> Math is the ultimate language we use to describe things.
05:50 <@coil> ahh
05:50 <@coil> see i suck at math
05:50 <@aestetix> Windows is just clunky shit rattling around.
05:50 <@coil> cuz i smoke too much pot
05:50 <@aestetix> UNIX, you start to see the mathematical patterns.
05:51 <@coil> aawesome
05:51 <@coil> hopefully one day
05:51 <@coil> ill be like wow aestetix was right
05:51 <@coil> this all makes sense
05:53 <@aestetix> lol
05:54 <@aestetix> If you keep studying it, it will.
05:55 <@coil> that's what im trying to do
05:59 <@Dagmar> Uh oh
05:59 <@Dagmar> Google is going after IRC
05:59 <@Dagmar> Prepare to abandon all IRC clients
05:59 <@aestetix> huh?
05:59 <@coil> logging the shit?
05:59 <@aestetix> how?
05:59 <@Dagmar> http://www.lively.com/
05:59 <@aestetix> oh
05:59 <@aestetix> How is that like IRC?
06:00 <@Dagmar> People standing around saying stupid shit to each other, mainly
06:00 <@Dagmar> 'cept now you get a graphical avatar
06:00 <@coil> oh jeeze
06:00 <@coil> if it doesn't work with irssi i dont wanna hear it
06:01 <@aestetix> So it's like palace chat
06:01 <@Dagmar> I don't think Palace chat would have ever gotten artwork this decent
06:03 <@Dagmar> Holy mother
06:03 <@Dagmar> Damn them for creating this
06:06 <@Dagmar> justinh: Have you seen what google has done this week?
06:07 <@aestetix> maybe I should head home soon
06:07 <@aestetix> I passed out at work
06:19 <@Dagmar> They need to plug Sketchup into this damn thing
06:41 <@Dagmar> http://www.lively.com/dr?rid=8750260169876358127
06:41 <@Dagmar> Best I can do without being able to create meshes
06:49 <@Shadow404> oh hi
06:50 <@Shadow404> you people are up early
06:51 <@aestetix> hey
06:51 <@aestetix> Dagmar: I just installed php5 and apache2 on ubuntu, for some reason php won't load
06:51 <@aestetix> any idea why?
06:51 <@aestetix> it's giving me the popup to download the php file instead of parsing it
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06:53 <@aestetix> wait, maybe this will work
06:55 <@brimstone> aestetix: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 ?
06:56 <@aestetix> already installed
06:56 <@brimstone> it should "just work" then
06:56 <@aestetix> I know
06:57 <@brimstone> otherwise, make sure it's enabled with a2enmod
06:57 <@aestetix> god damnit
06:57 <@aestetix> I needed to install php5-cli
06:57 <@aestetix> now it works
06:57 <@brimstone> you shouldn't have to have php5-cli for mod-php5 to work
06:57 <@brimstone> that's odd
06:57 <@aestetix> Yeah I know.
06:58 <@Dagmar> If you're getting a popup talking about *downloading* a php file then Apache is misconfigured
06:58 <@aestetix> It works now, though.
06:59 <@aestetix> I don't care if its misconfigured as long as it works
06:59 <@aestetix> I'm showing this site off to someone today, I just need it working on my local system
07:04 <@aestetix> man iceweasel is a piece of shit
07:04 <@tzanger> heh I have to do some website design, god I hate website design
07:08 <@sdodson> aestetix: you know it's just firefox, right?
07:12 <@aestetix> take that, bureaucracy
07:13 <@aestetix> these cocksuckers are trying to tell me how to create my own website
07:13 <@aestetix> so I said fuck them and set up a dev environment on my own system
07:15 <@brimstone> that's it! fight the man!
07:17 <@sdodson> I set up a development environement last night. IN YOUR MOM!
07:17 <@brimstone> welcome to the conversation sdodson
07:18 <@sdodson> brimstone: sorry i'm late
07:18 <@brimstone> that's what she said!
07:19 <@sdodson> How come you assholes never told me how leet wasabi peas were?
07:19 <@brimstone> how come you never asked?
07:19 <+Synx_hm_> theres a fucking fee to check a bag now
07:19 <+Synx_hm_> this is just fucking nuts
07:19 <@sdodson> Synx_hm_: Welcome to 2008
07:19 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:20  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
07:20  * Dolemite sprays himself down with Deep Woods OFF (tm)
07:20 <@sdodson> I thought wasabi peas would be just little pellets of wasabi, the sort of things folks eat in an effort to prove they're hard as nails, stuff like dagmar is into.
07:23 <@tzanger> a development environment in his mom?  you made him a sibling?
07:25 <@aestetix> how popular do you guys think IE6 still is?
07:25 <@sdodson> uh-oh, somebody is a biology super star
07:25 <@sdodson> aestetix: there are websites with stats for this shit
07:25 <@I-MOD> sdodson, wasabi pistachio...soooo awesome
07:25 <@sdodson> I-MOD: MUST TRY KTHNX!
07:25 <@aestetix> sdodson: what did they say?
07:26 <@brimstone> aestetix: pretty so far http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
07:26 <@sdodson> aestetix: i don't know
07:26 <@aestetix> This code doesn't work on IE6
07:26 <@aestetix> I'm debating how much time I wanna waste on it.
07:26 <@sdodson> uh oh, brimstone knows how to use the googles
07:27 <@sdodson> aestetix: is it for geeks?
07:27 <@brimstone> eep!
07:27 <@sdodson> http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7933/roarbz0.gif
07:27 <@aestetix> sdodson: yes
07:28 <@sdodson> aestetix: then i wouldn't worry about it
07:28 <@brimstone> most of the sheeple have ie7 installed and just don't know it
07:28 <@sdodson> So what do we do now that Obama voted for FISA?
07:29 <@brimstone> he's a witch!
07:30 <@aestetix> hmm
07:30 <@aestetix> ok
07:31 <@I-MOD> brimstone, does he float?
07:31 <@brimstone> to the lake!
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07:35 <@Dolemite> sdodson : I'm doing a write-in of "Anybody but these two fuckers"
07:37 <@sdodson> Al Sharpton?
07:37 <@Dolemite> ok, not quite anybody
07:37 <@Dolemite> I'll have to make a decision before November
07:37 <@sdodson> you racist
07:37 < eryc> now we can make telcos a part of the government and get free svcs
07:37 <@Dolemite> Sure, whatever
07:37 <@sdodson> Dolemite: i kid, i kid
07:38 <@Dagmar> Are the planning on charging us for tapping the phones soon or something?
07:38  * eryc waves a blade at Dolemite's package
07:38 <@Dolemite> eryc : No, now the telcos can be an arm of the government and extract a guaranteed percentage of everybody's income through more taxation!
07:38 <@sdodson> "Wire tapping convenience charge - $2.99"
07:38 < eryc> lawl
07:39 <@ware> wee
07:40 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDKw8ny6IcM
07:47 < eryc> carry on
07:47 <@brimstone> what CVE is that?
07:53 < eryc> what is a CVE?
07:54 < eryc> http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113
07:57 <+Synx_hm_> why are there dns zone transfer videos all over youtube where people simply nslookup a domain and say they hacked it?
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08:09 < eryc> good morning from tapei
08:12 <@Shadow404> Synx_hm: its a new dns posioning hack, probably the script kiddie changed the ip that its supposed to point to on a vulnerable ns
08:19  * eryc poisons Shadow404 
08:20 <@ware> stfu noobs
08:20 <@ware> jesus
08:21 <@Shadow404> take your medicine
08:30  * eryc poisons Shadow404 
08:35 <@rhia> http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/07/dallas-county-meeting-turns-ra.html
08:36 <@rhia> bwnwwaaah???
08:37 <@Dagmar> Race baiters
08:37 <@rhia> that's a stretch even for Jackson or Sharpton
08:39 <@Dagmar> Many things are possible when you're totally illterate
08:39 <@oddball> jesus christ
08:39 <@Dagmar> This Lively thing Google has would be pretty slick if there were a damn Linux client for it
08:40 <@rhia> cameras rolling or not, the only apology i'd give would be to say "i'm sorry that you have a problem with physics"
08:40 <@oddball> yeah
08:40 <@Shadow404> lawl, i would request a news confrence to apologize to price
08:40 <@oddball> I think my response would have been "shut up"
08:40 <@Shadow404> and then when its my turn to apologize
08:41 <@Shadow404> say exactly what rhia just mentioned
08:41 <@Shadow404> and then say thank you and walk off
08:41 <@Shadow404> leave it at that and no further comments
08:42 <@Dagmar> No, for the race-baiting all I'd say is "I'm not apologizing for your being an ignorant ass.  Talk to your parents about that."
08:42 <@rhia> the kicker is the JUDGE stepped in and demanded the apology .....   that's .... downright frightening
08:44 <@Dagmar> I have no problem being declared in contempt of someone that stupid.
08:45 <@tzanger> rhia: hahaha
08:47 <@rhia> k, when it's said 'stupidity should be painful' - it is IMPLIED that it should be painful to the stupid, not the observers ... sheesh
08:48 <@tzanger> rhia: absolutely.  that is my favourite saying
08:49 <@rhia> my brain hurts now .... need more coffee, LOTS more coffee
08:49 <@tzanger> my second-favourite is "the difference between theory and practise is that in theory, there is no difference between theory and practise"
08:54 <@I-MOD> i have a recent favourite: "You know what happens when you imply"
08:54 <@tzanger> haha super dave osborne is still on tv
09:04 <@rhia> I-MOD: You make an imp out of l and y. ??
09:05 <@I-MOD> rhia, the correct answer is "No, I don't"
09:06 <@rhia> if you (don't) say so ;)
09:06 <@I-MOD> since, in the construction of the rhetorical statement, you imply that the other person knows what happens when you imply
09:07 <@I-MOD> or that people sometimes miss the meaning when you imply
09:07 <@I-MOD> :D
09:07 <@I-MOD> that one is courtesy of brimstone
09:08 <@rhia> was a spin on 'assume' .... ah, well, said i needed more caffiene
09:09 <@brimstone> me?
09:09 <@ware> yeah
09:09 <@brimstone> hehe
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10:32 <@polerin> meh, stupid question.
10:33 <@polerin> wireless on a *nix box, can ping the gateway, and the default route is showing pointed at the right ip
10:33 <@polerin> but can't ping past it
10:33 <@polerin> other computers can reach through
10:34 <@polerin> suggestions?
10:36 <@ware> access gay internet
10:36 <@ware> C: <enter> ###
10:37 <@SkyDog_> If you could only ping the interace, then I would say connectivity. If you can ping the gateway, then I would say either hell is freezing over, or the netmask is set wrong.
10:38 <@ware> polerin: can you ping an external ip
10:38 <@ware> not by name
10:39 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, as in it's not resolving the IP.
10:40 <@SkyDog_> Or, you would be out of licenses for the firewall. I have seen that too.
10:40 <@ware> juhp
10:40 <@SkyDog_> sonicwall is a real bitch sometimes. right ware?
10:40 <@ware> :P
10:40 <@ware> happened to me 2 weeks ago
10:41 <@critch> http://media.tumblr.com/mSIbwfieMb44yd0iTtBSmgSq_400.jpg
10:42 <@SkyDog_> jesus.
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10:43 <@Dolemite> OMFG, there's a Libertarian ticket that dc0de can't vote for in a million years...   Bob Barr and Cynthia McKinney
10:45 <@Evilpig> critch: haha
10:45 <@ware> sfw?
10:45 <@Evilpig> yes
10:45 <@critch> yeah
10:45 <@ware> rofl
10:45 <@ware> too true.
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10:50 <@critch> how did I miss this 4th of July news story, http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Ceramist-Francisco-Figueiredo-opens-casting-mould-phallus-workshop-Chao-Parada/photo//080704/ids_photos_ts/ra1347055720.jpg/;_ylt=AkCtcwD2_GZiEY1IliuAz8YDW7oF
10:51 <@SkyDog_> Dude! You didn't get your traditional ceramic penis?
10:52 <@polerin> SkyDog_: it's a *nix box.
10:52 <@polerin> (the router)
10:53 <@polerin> and 255.255.255.0 is the netmask
10:53 <@polerin> right now I think theres a connectivity issue as well (it started dropping packets) so.. forget it.
10:53 <@polerin> I'll fart with it later
10:53 <@SkyDog_> Ick. sounds like a nightmare.
10:55 <@critch> wonder if we could talk Corydon76-dig into some of this. http://www.destructoid.com/teenager-burns-a-pac-man-into-his-flesh-93655.phtml
10:56 <@Evilpig> didn't I post that in here a few days ago?
10:56 <@Evilpig> there were like 4 or 6 guys involved in that
10:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Um, why would I do that?
10:57 <@critch> Evilpig: sorry, I need to blow off work more often and see what is going on here.
10:57 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: thought it might go good with your tat
10:57 <@polerin> critch: yeah you slack slacker. :P
10:58 <@Evilpig> where I was reading was that they didn't think it was going to be permanent because it didn't burn through that many layers of the skin and it will end up fading away
10:59 <@critch> that is kind of what I was thinking. Anything deeper would scare up, but that will fade pretty quick. Although he might not have hair there again.
10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: I'm not a masochist.
11:00 <@SkyDog_> Years ago, I actually had a brand under my watch. I did it the old fashioned way. Brass wire, and a blowtorch.
11:01 <@SkyDog_> The wire form is still on hanging on my fridge.
11:01 <@Evilpig> what did we learn from that SkyDog_ ?
11:01 <@SkyDog_> The moisture in your skin turns to steam and explodes if you get it hot enough.
11:02 <@SkyDog_> It looked cool.
11:02 <@critch> hmm, just noticed even the last of the discoloration on my arm has gone from the burns I received in the mid to early '90s. Exhaust pipes and catalytic converters get real damn hot.
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11:05 <@ware> woot
11:05 <@ware> starting exam
11:09 <@Dolemite> don't choke!
11:10 <@Dolemite> on all that cock you're gobbling...
11:10 <@Dolemite> :)
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11:14 <@ware> :P
11:14 <@ware> 12 in so far so good
11:15 <@Dolemite> http://www.1ware12cocks.com
11:16 <@critch> you gonna use the same music from 2girls1cup? both are as disgusting.
11:16  * critch goes looking for brain bleach
11:17 <@SkyDog_> http://nozzlerage.com/http://nozzlerage.com/
11:17 <@SkyDog_> SFW.
11:17 <@critch> do we need both, or just one?
11:17 <@SkyDog_> Just one. :P
11:19 <@critch> have you looked into those hydroxy boosters?
11:20 <@SkyDog_> What the hell is that?
11:20 <@aestetix> vagina
11:21 <@Dolemite> That is the spring loaded bottle opener I've been talking about
11:21 <@Dolemite> er
11:21 <@Dolemite> wrong winder
11:22 <@rhia> must be some serious kegel exercises
11:23 <@aestetix> Dolemite: you must have one hell of a wife
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11:34 <@critch> SkyDog_: sorry, distracted. there are some companies selling electrolisis devices for your vehicle. Best I can tell, if you have a shunt style voltage regulator, you redirect some of the power the alternator makes from the shunt to the electrolisis tank, and you get 2H2 + O2 to put back into your intake for burning.
11:34 <@SkyDog_> Interesting!
11:34 <@critch> If you have a switching voltage regulator, it causes more parasitic drain, and isn't worth messing with.
11:35 <@SkyDog_> I wonder if it's a "perpetual motion" gimmick, or if it works. Sounds feasable to me...
11:36 <@critch> Like I said, it depends on the type of regulator your vehicle has. If it is switching, you are already reducing your parasitic drain on the engine. If it is a shunt, the shunt diverts some power to ground via resistors. The device basically stops you from turning all that power to heat and in return provides some fuel.
11:36 <@SkyDog_> Nice.
11:37 <@critch> I don't know if I believe the savings some people are claiming, but it is an interesting concept.
11:38 <@aestetix> Ok.
11:38 <@aestetix> Let me ask the channel a question.
11:38 <@aestetix> I think this is fairly straight forward.
11:38 <@aestetix> Let's say your company is getting ready to release a new product to the world.
11:38 <@aestetix> And you're putting together a release that's going to get a lot of press attention.
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11:39 <@aestetix> Do you (1) have the entire team collaborate on it to make sure it's ok (2) let one person decide what goes into it.?
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11:40 <@SkyDog_> aestetix: Both. Everyone works on it, but there is always one guy that makes the final decision.
11:40 <@SkyDog_> He is referred to as the fall guy if it goes south.
11:41 <@aestetix> SkyDog_: right, right.
11:41 <@aestetix> I'm arguing with someone who thinks nobody else should have input.
11:43 <@SkyDog_> Fun. He's the target. Let him fail.
11:48 <@polerin> man,  I wish you could move tabs about in firefox like you can move source around in aptana (or most other IDE's)
11:49 <@ware> well im done with the test
11:49 <@ware> going thru questions i marked for reviews
11:49 <@ware> i think i got this one in the bag
11:51 <@critch> polerin: I can rearnge tabs on iceape
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11:52 <@aestetix> ware: taking your TOEFFL?
11:53 <@polerin> critch: not just re-arrange, but split the window up
11:53 <@polerin> have N number of visible sub windows at a time
11:53 <@critch> yep, ctrl-n
11:54  * critch wonders how long till he must duck
11:56 <@ware> dun
11:56 <@ware> Congratulations!
11:56 <@ware> You have successfully passed the certification exam and are now a Certified SonicWALL Security Administrator (CSSA) for Network Security Essentials.
11:56 <@ware> sauweeet
11:57 <@ware> 82% of 50 questions
11:57 <@ware> failing was 75% hehe
11:59  * aestetix has never and never will have cert
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12:01 <@polerin> critch: cute :P
12:01 <@polerin> I meen inside the same window
12:01 <@polerin> not arraging new windows
12:02 <@polerin> I'm rewriting spec's right now, and I'm on one small monitor... it's killing me :P
12:03 <@critch> so click the little tabby thing on the left of the menues and let them shrink away. Frees up space.
12:05 <@aestetix> Oh yeah.
12:05 <@aestetix> Wanna hear a funny story?
12:05 <@aestetix> This chick tried to sell me on how cool her macbook air was yesterday.
12:05 <@aestetix> "Check this out!"
12:05 <@aestetix> "They call it multiple desktops!"
12:05 <@aestetix> I didn't have the heard to point out my xfce window :p
12:05 <@aestetix> heart*
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12:09 <@polerin> aestetix: hehehe
12:10 <@polerin> critch: Multiple windows are just more of a pain than one window for some uses.  I'm not saying that I'd want to split my view for everything, but for specific uses it'd be nice.
12:11 <@brimstone> i have a tabbed terminal, tabbed browser, tabbed im client, starting to see a trend...
12:12 <@critch> There isn't any reason to not do it. In fact, XUL should make that fairly easy, but then denoting what viewing pane has focus for common UI might be the next pain.
12:13 <@polerin> I like tabs.  no... i love tabs
12:13 <@brimstone> tabs are the new virtual desktops
12:13 <@ware> aestetix: why no certs?
12:13 <@polerin> I just have been spoiled by aptana
12:13 <@aestetix> ware: why bother?
12:13 <@ware> right.
12:13 <@polerin> the one thing I'd like to see is the ability to move tabs from window to window in aptana.  the fact you can't do that is silly
12:14 <@polerin> other than that, it's great
12:14 <@polerin> all kinds of stuff all over the place, the ability to change tab layout on the fly ( including what tabs are shown ), etc.
12:28 <@aestetix> ware: no desire
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12:33 <@ware> why bother if you have no desire makes sense
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12:37 <@timoguin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCRRSUZ4Xok
12:49 <@Evilpig> grrr.  stupid groundwork is not being easy about installing on something they didn't expressly agree to
12:51 <@Mirage> Dolemite: ping
13:01 <@dc0de> Mirage, pong
13:01 <@dc0de> oops... I'm not Dolemite
13:05 <@nachoguy> http://bash.org/?870063
13:06 <@ware> weee
13:06 <@ware> waiting on the security guy to finish the test... an hour and some after the other younger coworker and me
13:06 <@ware> finished*
13:06 <@Dolemite> Mirage : pong
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13:09 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: I need to store something else in your basement
13:09 <@Evilpig> after much growling and threatening I think I have groundwork installing on fedora 9 now
13:09 <@Evilpig> no
13:09 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: I wasn't asking
13:09 <@Evilpig> wait.  what is it first?
13:09 <@NotLarry> well, it is not a human child
13:09 <@NotLarry> not yet anyway
13:10 <@NotLarry> and it is not alchoholic
13:10 <@NotLarry> not yet anyway
13:10 <@Evilpig> again I say no
13:10 <@Evilpig> I still have a kiln that hasn't magically disappeared. :P
13:11 <@NotLarry> trying to take care of that now:)
13:11 <@Dolemite> A kiln for baking babies?
13:11 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : You should say yes to NotLarry's request, but charge a 10% storage fee.
13:12 <@NotLarry> hey, I kill^h^h^h^h got your house guests to move out, one thing at a time.
13:13 <@NotLarry> the not wife wants to start growing cider in your basement.  I know you two don't talk much but next time she screams "oh god" you might want to ask her about it.
13:13 <@Evilpig> I got my last house guest out by being a dick
13:13 <@NotLarry> That must have been tought for you to pull off
13:13 <@Evilpig> it was a stretch for my character but I managed
13:14 <@NotLarry> We had Elrod in our raid group last night for SSC.  Damn he dies a lot.
13:14 <@Evilpig> yes he does
13:15 <@Evilpig> ugh.  I give up.  i'm gonna have to run this shit in a vm.
13:15 <@Dolemite> NotLarry : That's what you get for not helping me out
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13:16 <@NotLarry> i got your help right here.  As soon as this alarm clears
13:20 <@tzanger> what linux dev tools are "the tools" these days for web site design?
13:21 <@Evilpig> vi
13:21 <@tzanger> heh
13:25 < polerin> tzanger: it depends on your type of design and your flavor
13:25 < polerin> personally I do most of my "design" either in vim or aptana
13:25 < polerin> (which in linux is mostly just an eclipse plugin
13:25 <@tzanger> aptana?
13:25 < polerin> it's an IDE
13:26 < polerin> if you're just doing html/css it's a lil overkill
13:26 < polerin> good for JS though
13:26 < polerin> but really for a nicely tuned site, vim + firebug
13:32 <@tzanger> hmm
13:32 <@tzanger> interesting
13:32 <@tzanger> I was going to use quanta
13:33 <@tzanger> especially since i don't use eclipse
13:35 <@tzanger> hmm screem and bluefish are around too
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13:44 < polerin> I've found most site design tools get in my way rather than help
13:44 < polerin> but that's possibly because I don't use them in the proper manner :P
13:51 <@I-MOD> my site design tool is notepad or vim :D
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14:23 <@NotLarry> and it shows
14:24 <@NotLarry> Real men build web pages with ed
14:25 <@Shadow404> yeah...so my mom can beat up your mom!
14:25 <@brimstone> real men build web sites with cat
14:25 <@Shadow404> real men build websites with dos edit
14:26 <@NotLarry> ed
14:27 <@dc0de> real men use edlin
14:27 <@dc0de> dos edit is for pussies
14:29 <@Shadow404> nah, just lazy people
14:32 <@coil> real men like balls
14:32 <@Evilpig> fuck you lazy shits.  copy con > index.html
14:32 <@Shadow404> daif coil plz
14:42 <@Shadow404> outsource your web page editing to india and be done with it
14:42 <@coil> Shadow404: :(
14:42 <@Shadow404> of course, half of the words will be mispelled. And the grammar will be all wrong, but at least it was cheap
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15:00 <@coil> yeah exactly Shadow404 !!!!!!1
15:00 <@coil> that's what microsoft word (tm) is for!
15:01 <@Shadow404> diaf coil
15:02 <@coil>  What is SELinux, and where can I read more about it?
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15:03 <@brimstone> coil: typically, google is your answer for most of your questions
15:04 <@coil> no im reading that faq right now
15:04 <@coil> im trying to understand this fedora thing
15:04 <@coil> cuz im puzzled
15:05 <@coil> but at least my wireless worked with out having to mess with it!
15:05 <@coil> but none of my laptop keys work
15:06 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Can you get to flickr.com?
15:06 <@SkyDog_> For that matter, can anyone?
15:07 <@brimstone> flickr? but i barely know her!
15:07 <@SkyDog_> Doh!
15:10 <@Shadow404> im in
15:10 <@Shadow404> no issue
15:11 <@Shadow404> ping is 22ms
15:13 <@SkyDog_> Must be vandy then.
15:14 <@Shadow404> well, im 6 hops away as well...
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15:15 <@Shadow404> SkyDog_: have you traced it? cause i was going through bbnet
15:15 <@Shadow404> it did fail when it switched route to l3
15:16 <@SkyDog_> It's failing before it gets out of the gateway.
15:17 <@SkyDog_> well before it leaves vandy.
15:17 <@Shadow404> as they say on mythbusters...."well, there's your problem".
15:17 <@coil> Shadow404: meow lawl
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15:18 <@Shadow404> coil: diaf
15:18 <@coil> y
15:18 <@coil> y r u so mean
15:18 <@Shadow404> do i need to answer that really?
15:19 <@coil> ya u do
15:19 <@coil> stfu i dont want to hear it diaf plz kthx.
15:21 <@Shadow404> coil: go home and cry
15:21 <@SkyDog_> awww. does your pussy hurt?
15:23 <@coil> lol
15:23 <@coil> wtf is the command for inserting a module "modprobe" and "insmod" isn't working
15:24 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: are you root?
15:24 <@coil> ya
15:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Is it Linux?
15:25 <@coil> fedora
15:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Does the module exist within /lib/modules?
15:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Does the kernel module version exactly match the running kernel version?
15:26 <@coil> yum should of installed it
15:26 <@coil> bash: modprobe: command not found
15:27 <@Corydon76-dig> ls -l /sbin/modprobe
15:28 <@coil> hmm, it's right there, i guess it's not in my $PATH ?
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Did you 'su' to root or did you 'su -' ?
15:28 <@coil> su to root
15:28 <@brimstone> su - or sudo su -
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> That doesn't change your PATH variable.
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> 'su -' is the answer
15:29 <@brimstone> - fixes your environment for that user
15:29 <@coil> weird
15:29 <@coil> never knew that...
15:29 <@coil> and it works
15:29 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar_: You around?
15:29 <@coil> thanks :D
15:29 <@brimstone> it's the little things in life
15:29 <@aestetix> What does su - do?
15:29 <@brimstone> @brimstone | - fixes your environment for that user
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15:30 <@Corydon76-dig> 'su' with no arguments is for small tasks where, for example, you don't want to change your current working directory... su - ; make install ; for example
15:30 <@brimstone> "su -" is for the root user, etc
15:30 <@aestetix> How does that differ from sudo?
15:30 <@coil> i thought it didn't make a diff
15:30 <@Corydon76-dig> vs 'su ; make install'
15:30 <@brimstone> sudo is just run this program as root
15:30 <@brimstone> so, sudo su - and you are the root user
15:30 <@aestetix> oh
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15:30 <@brimstone> sudo su - www-user and you are that user
15:31 <@coil> sudo su -
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15:31 <@brimstone> fully and completely, like you logged in
15:31 <@aestetix> su - ; ls -lah /root ; make install ;
15:31 <@aestetix> like hat?
15:31 <@aestetix> that*
15:31 <@brimstone> sure
15:31 <@aestetix> that's fucking sweet
15:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Used to be that root's home dir was /... and there's an old story about the guy who typed 'su -' before 'rm -rf *' instead of typing 'su' and wondered why it was taking so long
15:31 <@brimstone> puts you in the root directory
15:32 <@coil> lol
15:32 <@coil> ok so just su - or sudo su -
15:34 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: ping
15:34 <@SkyDog_> pong.
15:34 <@coil> ping -f #se2600
15:40 <@aestetix> fucking screen
15:40 <@aestetix> I hate accidentally hitting ctrl-a-d on my web browser
15:45 <@aestetix> q-tips are so sexy
15:47 <@critch> ummm, WTF. Harley bought MV Agusta and Cagiva... http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Jul/080711b.htm
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16:06 <@ziplock> Linux evangelist Joe Barr died, aka MtJB.  http://www.linux.com/feature/141548
16:12 <@brimstone> another one bites the dust
16:13 <@ziplock> he'd recently become a regular in my other channels, seemed a good guy
16:13 <@brimstone> that really sucks, if you were corresponding with him recently
16:13 <@ziplock> as recently as yesterday
16:13 <@brimstone> i hope his last message wasn't "brb"
16:14 <@ziplock> ouch
16:14 <@ziplock> or "see you soon"
16:14 <@ziplock> he was only 7 months older than me....
16:14 <@brimstone> 7 + 7 - 12... have a happy feburary
16:26 <@aestetix> That name looks familiar.
16:26 <@aestetix> ziplock: it's always a shame, isn't it?
16:26 <@aestetix> At least he was older than, say, John Hall
16:27 <@aestetix> (Hall died when he was 24)
16:27 <@ziplock> yes indeed. I'd gotten to know him in recent months, he was a student of ours and had written some reviews for us
16:27 <@ziplock> he was editor of Linux.com and a regular at sourceforge
16:29 <@brimstone> jesus died when he was 25 right?
16:29 <@aestetix> uh
16:29 <@aestetix> no
16:29 <@aestetix> Jesus was, according to whichever legend, in his early 30s
16:29 <@aestetix> He was in his 20s when he was touring the Americas ;)
16:31 <@brimstone> 35 then?
16:31 <@rhia> 33
16:32 <@rhia> by supposed best concordian consensus
16:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Not sure why it matters.  Would your opinion of him be any different if he had died at age 50?
16:37 <@sdodson> WHO!?
16:37 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: yo' mama
16:37 <@sdodson> WHO!?
16:38 <@sdodson> today is a good day, i have networking connectivity to my new hotness, cobbler is working
16:42 <@brimstone> graaa
16:44 <@sdodson> brimstone: what?
16:46 <@brimstone> iphone
16:46 <@Shadow404> ad
16:46 <@Shadow404> *sad
16:46 <@Shadow404> damn mobile is slow today
16:47 <@critch> Shadow404: did you see that news link I sent earlier?
16:48 <@buu> /w/ 21
16:57 <@sdodson> Shadow404: ON=OS!
16:57 <@sdodson> ONOS!
17:36 <@coil> now the wireless isn't working on my fedora
17:37 <@coil> wpa isnt working
17:55 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar_: Hey, you coming to the meeting?
17:56 <@coil> i hate working on laptops
17:56 <@coil> the yufucking suck.
17:59 <@tzanger> I only work on laptops
17:59 <@coil> fix this compaq for me
18:00 <@coil> well it hasn't come in yet..
18:02 <@coil> f71cd10929fc93e8db6b7307f3c617a30850644dd6812ab845ad892011c32195
18:05 <@tzanger> ahh that's your problem
18:05 <@tzanger> 17a3085 should be 17bc7ef
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18:13 <@coil> ???
18:13 <@coil> tzanger: but wpa_passphrase generated that
18:15 <@coil> http://www.captaincano.com/wireless_internet.htm
18:22 <@sdodson> Who is captain cano?
18:22 <@coil> no idea
18:22 <@coil> but that's what google told me when i searched for "why the fuck doesn't my fucking wireless work"
18:23 <@sdodson> How depressing to find out that "Test your missiles now" is viagra spam
18:25 <@coil> sdodson: does fedora support wpa
18:27 <@sdodson> coil: Yes, assuming the driver for the nic is sane
18:27 <@coil> it was working at home fine
18:27 <@coil> it's an atheos
18:29 <@Dagmar_> Bleh
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18:29 <@sdodson> Dagmar: sup dawg?!
18:29 <@Dagmar> Lively is neat, but they're being pansies about stuff.
18:30 <@coil> ur2pansty
18:30 <@Dagmar> Apparently there were some people shocked to find porn in some of the rooms people were making.
18:30 <@Dagmar> "Porn, on the Internet?  Nowai!" I'm sure but still...
18:30 <@Dagmar> The tards disabled the gadget objects that were allowing customized stuff.
18:31 <@coil> either my wifi cards are working with this wpa ap
18:31 <@sdodson> coil: do you mean neither?
18:31 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLfuhw4AMG4
18:31 <@coil> suyre sdodson
18:31 <@coil> thanks for correcting me on the grammar and not the actual problem
18:32 <@sdodson> coil: No, I'm trying to figure out wtf you actually meant.
18:32 <@coil> oh sry
18:32 <@sdodson> Saying that either of them work is considerably different than saying neither of them work
18:32 <@coil> they work with wep
18:33 <@sdodson> My laptop foo is severly inhibited by the fact that my laptop is specifically chosen for Linux support.
18:33 <@coil> wlan0: associated
18:33 <@coil> wlan0: disassociate(reason=3)
18:33 <@coil> that's all it says in dmesg
18:33 <@sdodson> I'm completely immune to the bullshit most people go through getting wifi and graphics working.
18:33 <@coil> what laptop is urs
18:34 <@sdodson> IBM T42
18:34 <@coil> oh i have one of those in my trunk
18:34 <@coil> waiting on a dc adapter
18:34 <@coil> or ac power adapter*
18:36 <@Dagmar> sdodson: Yeah, thankfully that's pretty easy to deal with now.
18:36 <@Dagmar> It's just "buy IBM" or "buy Centrino" for the most part.
18:37 <@coil> but what i dont understand is that the wireless was working just fine on this same ap no settings changed the other day before i formatted it
18:37 <@Dagmar> did you look up what "reason #3" is supposed to be?
18:38 <@coil> haven't gotten that far
18:38 <@coil> but im sure it's because "bad key" or some shit
18:38 <@coil> because when i type in the passphrase in the lil nm-applet thingy, it turns it into that long ass key
18:41 <@sdodson> Dagmar: There's a ton of places to go wrong with IBM laptops.
18:42 <@sdodson> nvidia video controllers, broadcom wifi all over the place
18:42 <@coil> nvidia works better then ati
18:42 <@sdodson> We ended up with a poorly chosen spec for our T60s that basically ended up in a few dozen unusable laptops for us.
18:42 <@sdodson> Intel works better than both of those.
18:43 <@coil> you should of installed windows on them
18:43 <@sdodson> Ya, that's sort of forbidden.
18:43 <@coil> and how come yum install madwifi doesn't show up
18:44 <@sdodson> Because madwifi isn't allowed in the Fedora repos.
18:45 <@sdodson> http://fedoramobile.org/Members/thomasj/atheros-ar-5212-5213-with-madwifi-yum-and-livna-1
18:47 <@coil> how come lots of things aren't allowed inthe fedora repo
18:47 <@coil> i think i remembered why i stoped using red hat 7 because they didn't include mp3 decoders in it and that upset me
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18:48 <@coil> linva?
18:49 <@sdodson> coil: Licensing or something.
18:49 <@coil> ya lame
18:51 <@sdodson> http://rpm.livna.org
18:51 <@coil> k it says i ahve to reboot
18:52 <@coil> is that necessary?
18:52 <@sdodson> If it says so I imagine so. I don't know
18:52 <@coil> lol
18:53 <@coil> well why isn't firefox3 final not in the respositories
18:54 <@coil> reboot
18:54 <@coil> er
18:54 <@coil> ww
18:56 <@sdodson> coil: yum upgrade
18:56 <@sdodson> firefox3 final has been in there for several weeks
18:57 <@coil> thanks sdodson !!!!! you're my hero
18:58 <@coil> the wifi connected right up!!
18:58 <@sdodson> sweet
18:58 <@coil> i think it did :P
18:58  * coil unplugs cdable
18:58 <@sdodson> i'ms ure if you run yum upgrade you'll be in for a surprise
19:01 <@coil> it did that by itself
19:01 <@coil> when i first booted into f after install
19:01 <@coil> and hooked it up to the wifi
19:01 <@sdodson> oh, cause there's normally like 8 million updates
19:01 <@coil> yeah it did all of that
19:01 <@coil> i fell asleep before it finished last night, but it didn't even say to reboot
19:02 <@coil> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008061712 Fedora/3.0-1.fc9 Firefox/3.0
19:02 <@coil> that's the version i have
19:03 <@coil> why does sometimes firefox says do you want to save tabs, then sometimes it just closes
19:03 <@sdodson> yup, that's the current version of firefox
19:03 <@sdodson> It should only say that when there are multiple tabs open.
19:04 <@coil> oh i had the about ff still open :P
19:15 < AstralSin> some stupid fuck put hot coals out of his grill into the dumpster at work today
19:16 < AstralSin> i walk out for a smoke, look up and there's this bigass fire in the dumpster
19:21 <@sdodson> stupid smokers
19:21 < AstralSin> it wasn't the smokers' fault!
19:21 < AstralSin> it was the grillers!
19:22 <@sdodson> I dunno, if you'd not gone out for a smoke it may have just burned itself out and all would be well!
19:23 < AstralSin> im not the one who called the FD
19:24 <@sdodson> http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/11/gay-bashing-alabama-ag-caught-having-gay-sex/
19:24 <@sdodson> You're trying very hard to introduce logic here, don't bother.
19:30 <@Dagmar> Dumpster Fire: The best way to get rid of those annoying homeless
19:33 <@coil> hi
19:34 <@sdodson> Or evacuate a WalMart
19:35 <@SkyDog_> Hey Dagmar! We got a space for you at the end of the table.. where are ya?
19:35 <@coil> oh is there a 260000meeting?
19:36 <@SkyDog_> So do we need to open the doors downstairs? I mean, wait, you have a access to the building...
19:36 <@SkyDog_> we're waiting on your to get here and start teh anarchy.
19:37 <@SkyDog_> Or is it "Anarcy"?
19:37 <@SkyDog_> whatever. who cares. :)
19:37 <@Evilpig> "orgy"
19:37 <@SkyDog_> Please, no. Not without you piglet.
19:37 <@SkyDog_> "Grease the PIG!"
19:37 <@Evilpig> i'm there in spirit
19:38 <@SkyDog_> I thought I felt that.
19:38 <@Evilpig> sorry about that.  i'll aim for female next time
19:38 <@SkyDog_> Corydon is to my left. Go for it.
19:39 <@SkyDog_> He says it feels the same. Close your eyes, you can't tell the difference.
19:39 <@coil> lol
19:39 <@coil> hi Corydon76-dig
19:41 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: Man, can you pick up some pork rinds at the quickie mart on your way in?
19:41 <@Evilpig> and some nacho cheese
19:41 <@SkyDog_> Yeah! and some popcorn. That white cheddar popcorn.
19:41 <@Evilpig> taffy.  the big bar kind not the little pieces
19:42 <@SkyDog_> Fuck yeah!
19:42 <@Dagmar> what?
19:42 <@Dagmar> Why in gods name would I eat those
19:42 <@SkyDog_> Where are you man?
19:42 <@Dagmar> I'm at home
19:42 <@Dagmar> Ah shit
19:42 <@SkyDog_> Um, why aren't you at the meeting?
19:42 <@Dagmar> lol
19:42 <@SkyDog_> we're having anarchy time now.
19:42 <@Dagmar> Because I'm a spaz and I've been sorting laundry and shit all day
19:42 <@Dagmar> I'll be down there in about 35 minutes
19:42 <@SkyDog_> dolemite brought fruit cups.
19:43 <@Dagmar> Just gotta brush mah teef and put some glue in my hair (and maybe change shirts)
19:43 <@coil> ~google for youtube read a book
19:43 <+MxZBot> Google says youtube read a book is at http://www.ambrosiasw.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=114158 or http://www.stumbleupon.com/url/www.youtube.com/watch%253Fv%253DrN2VqFPNS8w or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w
19:43 <@Evilpig> don't forget to tstop for the munchies
19:44 <@SkyDog_> Well, now we're talking about where to eat.
19:44 <@Evilpig> the y
19:50 <@Dagmar> Well, hell might as well stay home then
19:50 <@Dagmar> At least I've gotten some more straightening up done
19:51 <@Dagmar> House is only about 85% "post-apocalypse" now
19:52 <@coil> PersonalCopy-Lite-patches-4.1-3.fc9.noarch.rpm
19:53 <@SkyDog_> Ah. ok. We're gonna flip a coin and pick a place to eat.
19:53 <@SkyDog_> General concensus was not to move the meetings.
19:53 <@Evilpig> everyone goto dagmar's and then order in
19:53 <@SkyDog_> PN planning for the first hour, then anarchy for the rest of the time.
19:54 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Chinese for everyone!
19:54 <@Evilpig> or whatever you find on teh floor.  your call
19:54 <@Evilpig> don't eat the moving fur.
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21:12 <@Catonic> I have a problem.
21:12 <@Catonic> Does anyone know much about Linux's file structures?
21:15 <@sdodson> you mean ELF?
21:15 <@Dagmar> I can has WORDS
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21:16 < geoffscoffee> evenin
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21:21 <@sdodson> Catonic: Glad we could help
21:21 <@Catonic> I dont know what it is, I just know I have a 736MB file where a directory should be.
21:22 <@sdodson> And that file and directory are...?
21:23 <@Catonic> Not important. I need a way to figure out if there is a directory structure in there or if it's just a raw file.
21:24 <@sdodson> what's libmagic think it is?
21:24 <@Catonic> what executable invokes that libraray?
21:24 <@Dagmar> `file`
21:24 <@Catonic> Shoot me. I've caught teh stup1d.
21:25 <@Dagmar> One thing you *should* be made aware of is that Linux doesn't accidentally turn directories into files on you
21:25 <@Catonic> ok, I know what it is now.
21:25 <@Evilpig> you can't shoot the stupid it might cause it to spread.  you can only burn them alive as to set an example
21:25 <@Dagmar> Anything misplaced or broken gets put into the special "lost+found" directory.
21:25  * Catonic self-immolates like a good little Buddist
21:26 <@sdodson> Dagmar: Is that a feature of Linux or the particular file system?
21:26 <@Dagmar> That's just the way fsck works
21:27  * Catonic apparently needs the mechanics of fscking explained to him again.
21:28 <@sdodson> eek, dm-mulitpath book is 42 pages
21:29 <@Catonic> hrm
21:29 <@Catonic> i wonder if there is a need to multipath iscsi by ipmp.
21:30 <@sdodson> ipmp?
21:30 <@Catonic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPMP
21:31 <@sdodson> why's it need to use ips for that?
21:32  * Catonic rolls his eyes: "Because it's solaris."
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21:34 <@Catonic> It's solaris. What other OS will cause an admin to utter in disgust, "What manner of asscuntery is this? Solaris? Oh, nevermind."
21:35 <@ShadowHntr> i could say the same thing about Debian.
21:35 <@ShadowHntr> :P
21:35 <@Catonic> ShadowHntr: you must not have used Slackware yet.
21:35 <@ShadowHntr> Catonic: i learned Linux on Slackware.
21:35 <@ShadowHntr> back in the days of the late 2.0 kernel
21:36 <@sdodson> That doesn't mean a whole lot in the context of slackware.
21:37 <@Catonic> ShadowHntr: then you already know what manner of asscuntery it is.
21:37 <@ShadowHntr> lol
21:37 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't mind it, cause i compiled almost *everything* from source.
21:37 <@ShadowHntr> but now with security exploits coming out every day, i prefer something with a real packaging system
21:37 <@ShadowHntr> i prefer RPM and YUM
21:39 <@ShadowHntr> i want to learn python.
21:39 <@Catonic> if I'm going to get a mindfuck, I at least want a pussy to come with it.
21:39 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr is glad to accompany it.
21:40 <@ShadowHntr> meow.
21:45 <@Catonic> Dagmar: thanks, sdodson: thanks. gnight guys
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22:47 <@ware> wee
22:48 < AstralSin> yo
22:50 <@ware> wutup
22:50 < AstralSin> gettin drunk
22:51 <@ware> werd, i just got home a lil while ago
22:51 <@ware> got my Garmin 350
22:51 <@ware> wuz playin with it
22:53 < AstralSin> you'll go blind
22:54 <@ware> only if i play with it too much :D
22:55 < AstralSin> there was a fire at work today, some dumb fuck put hot coals from a grill in the dumpster
22:55 < AstralSin> it was marginally exciting
22:55 < AstralSin> which makes me think that will be the height of excitement in my career there
22:55 < AstralSin> its all downhill from here
22:55 <@coil> drunk
22:55 <@coil> we know AstralSin
22:55 <@coil> where you work at
22:56 < AstralSin> i work in franklin
22:56 < AstralSin> DCC
22:56 <@coil> sry haven't been to TN in more then two years
22:58 <@sdodson> hooray bonding and multipathing working
22:59 <@coil> ???
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23:22 <@ShadowHntr> AstralSin: they never called me back :(
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23:28 < AstralSin> uhh ok
23:28 < AstralSin> well, goodnight
23:28 < AstralSin> im good and drunk after another week of sobriety
23:28 < AstralSin> time to look forward to a hangover
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