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00:06 <@coil> it stall out?
00:12 <@aestetix> man
00:12 <@aestetix> I passed out at work, just woke up
00:14 <@coil> aestetix: why did you ap[wss otu
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00:56 <@aestetix> coil: working too hard
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01:11 <@coil> j hester
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01:11 <@coil> purpel
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01:48 < juice> Sure eating yogurt will improve your sex life.  People know that if
01:48 < juice> you'll eat that stuff, you'll eat anything.
01:49 <@coil> rofl
01:49 < juice> A nymph hits you and steals your virginity.
01:49 < juice> fortune -o 's
01:49 < juice> lol
01:50 <@coil> fortune: not found
01:50 <@coil> awwwww
01:50 < juice> :(
01:50  * coil goes to other computer
01:50 < juice> What can you use used tampons for?  Tea bags for vampires.
01:50 <@scort> Q:	How many marketing people does it take to change a light bulb?
01:50 <@scort> A:	I'll have to get back to you on that.
01:50 < juice> that is wrong
01:50 <@scort> You will have a long and unpleasant discussion with your supervisor.
01:50 < juice> heh
01:50 <@scort> No fortunes found
01:51 <@scort> No fortunes found
01:51 <@scort> ???
01:51 < juice> huh?
01:51 < juice> The man who said "A bird in the hand's worth two in the bush" has been
01:51 < juice> putting his bird in the *WRONG* bushes.
01:51 <@scort> A few hours grace before the madness begins again.
01:51 <@scort> You seek to shield those you love and you like the role of the provider.
01:51 <@scort> You will be honored for contributing your time and skill to a worthy cause.
01:51 <@scort> They have been at a great feast of languages, and stolen the scraps.
01:51 <@scort> 		-- William Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost"
01:51 < juice> heh
01:52 < juice> Q:  Where does virgin wool come from?
01:52 <@scort> You will remember something that you should not have forgotten.
01:52 <@scort> There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted
01:52 <@scort> armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.
01:52 <@scort> 		-- Ernest Hemingway
01:52 < juice> A:  Ugly sheep.
01:52 < wolfen_at_max> juice fast sheep
01:52 < juice> wolfen_at_max, hehe close
01:54 < juice> There's nothing wrong with America that a good erection wouldn't cure.
01:54 < juice> 		-- David Mairowitz
01:54 < juice> Virgin, n.:
01:54 < juice> 	An ugly third grader.
01:55 <@scort> Knucklehead:	"Knock, knock"
01:55 <@scort> Pee Wee:	"Who's there?"
01:55 <@scort> Knucklehead:	"Little ol' lady."
01:55 <@scort> Pee Wee:	"Liddle ol' lady who?"
01:55 <@scort> Knucklehead:	"I didn't know you could yodel"
01:55 < juice> hah
01:55 < juice> An egg has the shortest sex-life of all: if gets laid once; it gets
01:55 < juice> eaten once.  It also has to come in a box with 11 others, and the only
01:55 < juice> person who will sit on its face is its mother.
01:56 <@Dagmar> Isn't this shit that's supposed to be emailed to me by aged relatives?
01:56 <@scort> Tempt not a desperate man.
01:56 <@scort> 		-- William Shakespeare, "Romeo and Juliet"
01:56 < juice> Hackers do it with fewer instructions.
01:56 < juice> lol Dagmar
01:57 <@Dagmar> Stop bein' pansies.
01:57 <@Dagmar> Use `fortune -o`
01:57 <@coil> so Dagmar
01:57 < juice> uh ....
01:57 <@coil> -o
01:57 < juice> we are
01:57 <@coil> does this
01:57 <@coil> watch
01:57 <@Dagmar> Man I still can't get over that bit Jesse Jackson said
01:57 <@scort> No fortunes found
01:57 <@Dagmar> That is just too funny
01:57 <@scort> No fortunes found
01:57 <@scort> ./exec -o fortune -o
01:57 <@Dagmar> scort: Did you install PuritanLinux or something?
01:57 <@scort> ./exec -o `fortune -o`
01:57 <@scort> No fortunes found
01:57 <@Dagmar> I came; I saw; I fucked up
01:57 <@scort> ubuntu
01:57 < juice> Dagmar, I am noobfarming that
01:58 <@Dagmar> Wow.  That's kinda weak actually to not install the offensive fortunes, since you *must* pass the thing -o to make it use those
01:58 <@coil> Dagmar: zero padding to a text file
01:58 < DrWaffles> oh you want a quote war do you MWAH AH AH  * goes and digs up old literature*
01:58 <@Dagmar> It's a damn good way to break yourself of logging in as root all the time
01:58 <@Dagmar> 'cuz if you know your root prompt is goign to spew obscenities or something that might get you fired, you treat it with *respect*  ;)
01:59 < juice> yeah
01:59 < juice> good call
01:59 <@Dagmar> But seriously... "I want to cut his nuts off."
01:59 <@Dagmar> What the hell made him say that other than a short-bus moment
01:59 <@Dagmar> juice: Yeah, I actually had that blow up on me with NLUG, too
02:00 <@Dagmar> Freaking went to root during a presentation and WHAM, some fortune -o action on my screen in six inch high letters on that projection screen
02:00 <@coil> lol
02:00 <@coil> good job Dagmar
02:01 <@coil> how do i isntall the naughty fortunes?
02:01 < juice> Dagmar, rofl
02:01 <@Dagmar> Yeah about half the room broke apart into the giggles about how quick I flushed that terminal
02:01 <@Dagmar> 'cuz I reacted like i'd just pulled up porno
02:01 < juice> yeah
02:01 < juice> i would have too
02:02 <@Dagmar> coil: I'm guessing if you just slap the word "fortune" into the package tool thing it's got right there from the top menus, and let it also use *all* the repos, it'll come up
02:02 <@coil> no Dagmar
02:02 <@coil> i cannot find it
02:02 <@Dagmar> Wow
02:02 <@Dagmar> I'll take a look next time I boot my laptop
02:02 <@Dagmar> It's probably in there somewhere as an additional package
02:02 <@coil> fortunes?
02:03 <@coil> nope that wasn't it
02:03 < juice> so ubuntu and gentoo are both on my bah list tonight
02:03 < DrWaffles> im sleepy and insomnia makes my brain break
02:03 <@Dagmar> According to Google it's "fortunes-off"
02:03 < juice> trying to install gentoo in virtualbox on chapter 8 of the guide
02:03 < juice> and apt-get is just insane
02:03 <@Dagmar> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/fortunes
02:03 <@coil> i didn't see that
02:03 <@coil> werid
02:03 <@coil> i dont see it in the search
02:03 <@coil> but it's installable
02:04 <@Dagmar> That's pretty odd.
02:04 <@scort> swallow, v.:
02:04 <@scort> 	The (blew) bird of birth control.
02:04 <@coil> there we go
02:04 <@Dagmar> I slap *really* vague stuff in there to find all the bits of Compiz
02:04 <@coil> Dagmar: i suck then
02:04 <@scort> There was a young man from Nantucket
02:04 <@scort> Whose cock was so long he could suck it.
02:04 <@scort> 	But he looked in the glass,
02:04 <@scort> 	And saw his own ass,
02:04 <@scort> And broke his neck trying to fuck it.
02:04 <@coil> rofl
02:04 <@Dagmar> Nah it could be there's some hidden I_AM_A_GROWNUP=yes variable
02:05 < juice> heh
02:05 <@coil> heh yeah Dagmar
02:05 < juice> The real problem with fucking a sheep is that you have to walk around
02:05 < juice> in front every time you want to kiss her.
02:06 < DrWaffles> so explain to me the function of a fortune?
02:07 <@scort> The rich man uses vaseline,
02:07 <@scort> 	The poor man uses lard;
02:07 <@scort> The worker uses axle grease
02:07 <@scort> 	But gets it twice as hard.
02:07 < juice> amusement
02:07 < juice> slackware has them on logins
02:07 < juice> not sure about other distros
02:07 <@coil> that's where i saw them from!
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02:07 <@coil> i was wondering
02:07 <@coil> i remember years ago
02:07 <@coil> seeing these
02:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah, Slackware and a bunch of other distros use to have fortune right after the MOTD
02:08 < juice> there is also the wanda fish applet
02:08 < juice> that does them
02:08 < DrWaffles> I should try out more distros before randomly going all duckspeak
02:08 <@Dagmar> Jesus
02:08 <@Dagmar> I hate that thing
02:08 <@Dagmar> Wanda is evil.
02:08 < juice> heh
02:08 <@Dagmar> It has an easter egg, dig
02:08 < juice> i never knew what it was
02:08 <@coil> fbsd has fortune?
02:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah BSD should sure as hell have fortune since that's where the code originated
02:08 < juice> why would fortune be in wanda I never would have thought
02:09 < DrWaffles>  does debian have fortunes also
02:09 <@coil> okay so i also saw them there
02:09 <@Dagmar> No, see... About a month after I'd moved to SF and *thought* I'd adjusted to the strength of certain smokable products that have there, I was doing some work in GNOME and found the easter egg.
02:09 < juice> You better believe that marijuana can cause castration.  Just suppose
02:09 < juice> your girlfriend gets the munchies!
02:10 < juice> easter egg dig?
02:10 <@Dagmar> Specifically, I took a big bong hit, and looked at the screen, and that fucking fish was swimming right across the middle of my screen, like nothing at all was odd about that.
02:10 < juice> hehe
02:10 <@Dagmar> Once in a blue moon it will do that
02:11 <@scort> The blind daters had really hit it off and at the end of the evening, as
02:11 <@scort> they were beginning to undress each other in his apartment, the fellow said,
02:11 <@scort> 	"Before we go any further, Charmaine, tell me -- do you have
02:11 <@scort> any special fetishes that I should take into account in bed?"
02:11 <@scort> 	"As a matter of fact," smiled the girl, "I do happen to have a foot
02:11 <@scort> fetish -- but I suppose I'd settle for maybe seven or eight inches."
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02:11 <@Dagmar> I joined #GNOME about a minute later and said something like "Oh god please tell me I'm not losing my mind I just saw the fish swim across the middle of my desktop"
02:11 < juice> hehe
02:11 < juice> breath breath
02:12 < juice> I wish I heard this at like pn in person
02:12 <@coil> Dagmar: easter egg?
02:12 <@Dagmar> I was about to holler to rattle "Don't smoke it the shit is laced with something!"
02:12 < juice> would have been really funny
02:12 <@coil> howd do you that
02:12 <@coil> im smoking Dagmar
02:12 <@Dagmar> coil: It's just something the Wanda the Fish applet *does* as an easter egg
02:12 <@coil> i dont see any fishes
02:12 <@Dagmar> Normally it's just this dopey little goldfish that sits in it's applet and does nothing.  You can click on it and get a fortune
02:13 <@coil> neat
02:13 <@Dagmar> STuff like that doesn't normally just take a stroll across the middle of your screen
02:13 <@Dagmar> I was about to check the flood for lost marbles
02:13 <@coil> i like the smoking weed part
02:13 <@Dagmar> s/flood/floor/;
02:13 <@Dagmar> hehe
02:14 < juice> heh select footguy
02:14 < juice> animation for it
02:15 < juice> 2 frames in animation
02:16 < juice> Condoms are like listening to a symphony with cotton in your ears.
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02:16 < juice> I remember one time my mom wakes me up to ask me what something on the computer was
02:16  * coil coughs
02:17 < juice> I left it on linux and the screensaver was the jack is a dullboy one
02:17 < juice> If you think sex is a pain in the ass, try different position.
02:18 <@scort> "Civilization has little to fear from educated people and brain-workers.
02:18 <@scort>  In them the replacement of religious motives for civilized behaviours by
02:18 <@scort>  other, secular motives, would proceed unobtrusively..."
02:18 <@scort>                   [Sigmund Freud, 1927]
02:18 <@scort> 	"I was plodding through the woods when suddenly a giant brown bear
02:18 <@scort> grabbed me from behind and made me drop my gun.  He picked it up and
02:18 <@scort> stuck it in my back."
02:18 <@scort> 	"What did you do?"
02:18 <@scort> 	"What *could* I do?  I married his daughter."
02:19 < juice> Motto of the Electrical Engineer:
02:19 < juice> 	Working computer hardware is a lot like an erect penis: it
02:19 < juice> stays up as long as you don't fuck with it.
02:19 < juice> okay my fotune time is over
02:19 <@coil> nice
02:19 < juice> i keep getting repeats
02:19 < juice> i'm sure the offensive db is much smaller
02:19 < juice> than the regular one
02:21 < juice> speaking of things on the screen remember that win app that made sheep appear on the screen
02:22 < juice> then they walked around eating up the desktop
02:22 < juice> send it to people and be like yeah that is a virus eating your hd up
02:28 <@aestetix> hey
02:36 < juice> hi
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07:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:26 <@ware> wee
07:26 <@ladymerlin> whee
07:26 <@ware> sittin in sonicwall class
07:27 <@Shadow404> sitting in the noc, sipping my ramen and drinking my guines.....i mean, caffienated beverage
07:28 <@Shadow404> http://bigblue.homeftp.net/noc.html
07:28 <@Shadow404> bleh
07:31 <@Dolemite> stop picking your nose
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07:32 <@Shadow404> i scratchd it bleh
07:32 <@Shadow404> this is picking my nose
07:32 <@Shadow404> heh, that actually looks real on the crappy camera
07:33 <@Shadow404> you know when your trying to troubleshoot a zone file thats longer than 10 pages, you need to print it out
07:33 <@Dolemite> You need to be using a DNS management tool instead of editing text files at that point
07:34 <@Shadow404> yeah, well lets not go there, this place has stuck with dnsedit its whole lifetime
07:35 <@Shadow404> bleh, im taking your suggestion and then just pasting the raw zonefil back when i know it should work
07:36 <@Shadow404> nm, found it
07:36 <@Shadow404> somone missed one fucking period at the end of a dns entry
07:38 <@Dolemite> awesome rube goldberg machine for making a cocktail
07:38 <@Dolemite> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMLkFb6y4A8
07:45 <+Synx_hm_> haha that is damn awesome
07:45 <@Shadow404> iu want one
07:45 <@Shadow404> for beer pouring
07:47 <@Shadow404> it just seems easier to make the cocktail myself
07:47 <@Dolemite> that's the point of rube goldberg machines
07:55 <+Synx_hm_> kitten keeps trying to scale my arm like its a tree
07:55 <+Synx_hm_> i think it wants to eat my beard
08:06 <@Shadow404> heh, my dumbass cat came in last night soaked to the bone from storm, that'll teach her to venture off so far
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08:18 <@ware> woot, dropped nash2600 propz in class
08:19 <@ware> "oh watch this guy with your information"
08:19 <@ware> lol
08:20 <@Evilpig> what are they gonna watch you do with it?  lose it?
08:21 <@ware> yes, since i dont have the skill to do anything else with it
08:23 <@Dagmar> Like college students have anythign worth stealing
08:25 <@ware> actually coworker and i are the only ones under 30 in here
08:25 <@Dagmar> Wow
08:26 <@Dagmar> Old, stupid people then
08:26 <@Dagmar> Wow when are the news circuits going to learn to recognize bullshit when they see it
08:26 <@Dagmar> http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/07/10/0020211.shtml
08:26 <@Dagmar> There's like, dozens of things wrong with this sentence: "After four years of development, University of Sydney scientists say the Internet is set to become on average 60 times faster than existing networks."
08:30 <@Dagmar> ...and hot, diggity, damn.  They're going for lifetime disbarment on Thompson
08:31 <@Dagmar> This is why we need licences to post any material on the internet
08:31 <@Dagmar> Make 'em easy to get, and permanently disbar the trolls.
08:32 <@oddball> Didn't they already slap a "10 year suspension, then retake the bar" on him?  (which is essentially disbarment for life)
08:33 <@Dagmar> That was what they were in the process of, when Jack stormed out of the courtroom, claiming the judge didn't have any legal standing to preside over the matter, and that he should be allowed to read is 150 page rambling diatribe aloud.
08:33 <@Dagmar> They've been ever so patient with him.
08:34 <@Dagmar> I just hope CNN doesn't make the mistake of trying to interview the man when this is finalized.
08:34 <@oddball> ah, that's right.
08:34 <@Dagmar> Rabies is contagious shit.
08:34 <@Dagmar> You have to get a lot of painful shots to get rid of it.
08:34 <@Dagmar> ...and Thompson will proabbly be at the "foaming at the mouth" stage when this is finally complete
08:34 <@oddball> I sent that account to my dad (a lawyer), and he couldn't believe that could be real.
08:35 <@Dagmar> Did you mention the GAY PORNO?
08:35 <@oddball> damn... forgot about that.
08:35 <@Dagmar> Jack Thompson, in every possible way, embodies a forum troll.
08:46 <@Dolemite> Dagmar : Were you and NotLarry on a "I'm not going to close my tickets" tirade last night?
08:46 <@Dolemite> er, night before last
08:46 <@Dagmar> No, we're just kinda stuck on a lot of these ND&E tickets from Spectrum
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09:35 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
09:35 <@SkyDog_> What time did I fall off?
09:35 <@brimstone> 2008 Jul 09 18:22:29  <-- SkyDog_ (n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
09:35 <@brimstone> CDT
09:36 <@SkyDog_> Sigh. I guess the power went out at my colo'd location.
09:36 <@ware> teh suck
09:38 <@Shadow404> ouchie, did the server come back up?
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09:40 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, that's how I am able to get on.
09:40 <@SkyDog_> The power is shitty there, so I have it setup to restart when it gets juice again.
09:41 <@Shadow404> yep, thats what ive been doing with my servers at home. This season has been bad. I actually used my weather station log to record the outages, since it restarts when the power comes back on, i can just look at the logs
09:42 <@Shadow404> so far, ive had 13 black outs this year, mostly from storms
09:42 <@Shadow404> but 2 (3 min outages) for no reason
09:42 <@brimstone> have you been able to predict any yet?
09:42 <@Shadow404> what storms?
09:42 <@brimstone> blackouts
09:42 <@Shadow404> haha
09:43 <@Shadow404> i need to put them on a ups, but it hasnt bothered me to much since it comes back on its own
09:43 <@brimstone> wait till you lose a drive, or a psu
09:44 <@Shadow404> yeah, one step ahead on that, got spares, but i know what you mean, restarting puts more strain on a box then to keep it running
09:45 <@Shadow404> anybody got suggestions on a ups for (2) ~400watt psu's?
09:45 <@brimstone> aps anything
09:45 <@Shadow404> ok, what wattage do u recommended for what i need?
09:45 <@brimstone> apparently 800
09:46 <@Shadow404> ok, wasnt sure if there was a safety thing like colo's do
09:46 <@brimstone> what's the min/avg/max outage time
09:46 <@Shadow404> where you should plan for use plus 20%
09:46 <@brimstone> probably
09:46 <@brimstone> that sounds good, go with that
09:46 <@Shadow404> ok, so 100w or me
09:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: technically, a UPS is only supposed to last long enough for the backup generator to kick on
09:46 <@Shadow404> *1000w or me
09:46 <@brimstone> *for?
09:47 <@Shadow404> brimstone: yeah, having one of those days, where ive been checking zone files all morning
09:47 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: technically yes, but i haz no generator
09:47 <@Shadow404> this is just my servers at home, to get them through a power cut
09:55 <@Evilpig> can anyone get to thepiratebay.org ?
09:55 <@Shadow404> checking
09:56 <@Evilpig> looks like they are down or have a route between here and there acting up
09:56 <@Shadow404> no
09:56 <@Shadow404> and all the derivatives are down too
09:56 <@Shadow404> time to switch providers again
09:56 <@Evilpig> which leads to my 2nd question.  does anyone have an ISO, read legal, of Adobe CS3.  I need indesign.  Our CD just blew up in the marketing girl's laptop
09:57 <@Evilpig> well dvd
09:57 <@Evilpig> but you know what I mean
10:00 <@brimstone> srsly?
10:00 <@brimstone> like, bits of dvd all over?
10:00 <@Evilpig> yeah
10:01 <@brimstone> confiscate the laptop from her then
10:01 <@Evilpig> i've pulled the drive out trying to clean it.  but this is a mess
10:01 <@Evilpig> not her fault.
10:01 <@brimstone> tell her it's trying to kill her
10:01 <@brimstone> she needs to req a new one
10:01 <@Evilpig> seen this happen lots of times
10:01 <@Evilpig> cd / dvd has a small crack in it.  then the force from spinning causes the crack to shatter the entire disc
10:01 <@Shadow404> let me guess, its a dell?
10:01 <@Evilpig> sony
10:02 <@Shadow404> ok, so it was the cd/dvd then
10:02 <@Shadow404> sorry, i just really hate dell
10:10 <+eryc> why is that
10:10 <+eryc> did your dell catch on fire and burn you?
10:10 <+eryc> what is this + next to my name anyway
10:10 <@Shadow404> i had to support it in my last job
10:10 <@Shadow404> hated it
10:11 <+eryc> i dont mind dell servers
10:11 <+eryc> i dont particularly care for their laptops
10:12 <+eryc> WHY DO I HAVE A +
10:12  * eryc grumbles
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10:12 <@brimstone> fixed
10:12 < eryc> thanks
10:12 < eryc> much better
10:12 <@brimstone> sure, np
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11:18 <+Synx_hm_> http://www.break.com/pictures/perfect-timing534201.html
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12:34 <+someninjamaster> Dolemite: whats the info i need to get tickets too the cave
12:40 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: http://www.recreation.gov/tourDetails.do?contractCode=NRSO&tourId=206171
12:48 <+someninjamaster> which tour are we doing
12:49 <+someninjamaster> er
12:49 <+someninjamaster> time
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12:55 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: Historic, noon
12:56 <+someninjamaster> only 26 tickets left
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13:01 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: can we still use #238 at Hill on Friday?
13:07 <@Evilpig> no.  you have to stand out in the raid
13:07 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Yes
13:07 <@Evilpig> bring a slicker
13:08 <@Evilpig> who all needs books?  I have a source for cheap ones now. http://www.sebook.com
13:09 <@Evilpig> http://www.bunchesofbooks.com/  <-- that too
13:10 <@SkyDog_> Thanks Dole.
13:10 <@Dolemite> I have to remember to bring in the schwagerific demo for you.
13:10 <@SkyDog_> I ordered a bunch of silk screening supplies from my distributor. I asked for a scrub pad, and a handle to go with it. then I wanted a spare pad to have as backup. I opened the box, and I have two handles and one pad. Sigh.
13:13 <@Dolemite> Yeah, well, I ordered $30K of metered smart CDU's and the manufacturer changed the dimensions of this year's version such that they no longer fit in my racks.
13:13 <@Evilpig> make them come out and install them
13:14 <@Evilpig> don't mention them not fitting ahead of time.  it will be a surprise for their installer
13:14 <@Dolemite> After much ass chewing and panic, we discovered that the rack manufacturer had made some adapter brackets so that they will fit.  I've got 30 sets on the way to me right now.
13:14 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Gotta love sudden changes.
13:17 <@Evilpig> speaking of racks.  I need to head over to the book company and see how the transition is going there
13:21 <@dc0de> speaking of racks, I need to get some more pr0n
13:24 <@aestetix> tick tick tick
13:24 <@aestetix> The countdown begins.
13:25 <@SkyDog_> armegeddon? the bomb in your pants goes off? what?
13:26 <@aestetix> SkyDog_: HOPE.
13:26 <@aestetix> The drama going on right now is about what it's like pulling off a huge rave, minus the drugs.
13:27 <@SkyDog_> I lost all HOPE when Dolemite got married.
13:27 <@aestetix> Of course, everything will work out in the end...
13:27 <@aestetix> hahaha
13:27 <+juice> hi
13:27 <@aestetix> what up juice
13:27 <+juice> not work in an hour or so
13:27 <+juice> not much
13:42  * brimstone is in a virtual meeting
13:42 <@brimstone> this is interesting
13:42 <+juice> neat
13:43 <@brimstone> too bad webex is winderz only
13:43 <+juice> aww
13:44 <@I-MOD> i remember that from somewhere...
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14:08 <@NotLarry> Dolemite: you on?
14:09 <@Dolemite> I am
14:09 <@NotLarry> How late is the zoo open?
14:09 <@Dolemite> Aren't you supposed to be in a vehicle?
14:09 <@NotLarry> My phone is @#$^ gone
14:09 <@Dolemite> Until 6 PM
14:10 <@NotLarry> k on my way to office
14:10 <@Dolemite> ok
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14:18 <@critch> hmm, this looks interesting if it wasn't so damn expensive. http://www.linutop.com/linutop2/index.en.html
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14:20 <@brimstone> critch: you could get close to that with a nano-itx and puppy linux
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14:26 <@Evilpig> that is like that thing I got from jackpc.com
14:30 <@brimstone> that hurts: http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/41730121/living-in-sweet-harmony
14:30 <@brimstone> 2.0 firmware already jailbroken
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14:44 <@Catonic> coil: doucheball
14:45 <@dc0de> Catonic, your mom
14:50 <@Shadow404> coil: diaf
14:55 <@coil> what did i do?
14:56 <@Shadow404> everything
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15:07 <@coil> :(
15:07 <@coil> Catonic: ?
15:08 <@Mirage> NotLarry: Better watch out, the zoo may keep you as an exhibit
15:08 <@Dagmar> olejl: Heh
15:08 <@Dagmar> @#$@ buffers
15:08 <@Dagmar> Car problem was busted air intake boot
15:08 <@coil> more
15:08 <@Mirage> ah, that was easy enough then
15:09 <@Dagmar> Yeah, they're estimating 250 or so for the rebuild to fix the instrument cluster, so I'll probably have that done next month
15:09 <@Dagmar> They also changed my plugs, which is good
15:10 <@Dagmar> That fuel mix being off (and probably a bit more ethanol than was supposed to be in there) messed 'em up
15:10 <@ware> suhweet
15:10 <@ware> 1st day of training done
15:10 <@coil> 4 wat
15:11 <@Dagmar> *sigh* Still no explanation as to why Jackson wanted to cut Obama's nuts off
15:11 <@Dagmar> ...but it's STILL funny as hell that he said it
15:11 <@Mirage> If it was sucking air, then fouling the plugs is totally expected
15:11 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Yeah, 99.7 is one hell of an educational resource.  :)
15:11 <@Dagmar> I kept catching that Click'n'Clack car talk show on the weekends
15:12 <@Mirage> yeah, very fun to listen to
15:12 <@coil> oh ya
15:12 <@Dagmar> Mirage: I hate to say it, but if the guy who runs Autohaus dies, I'm going to have to go to his funeral
15:12 <@critch> Dagmar: they do offer Click and Clack as a podcast, don't have to be tied to the broadcast schedule.
15:13 <@Dagmar> This is almost an unnatural thing to think about one's mechanic from what I'm used to
15:13 <@Dagmar> critch: Yeah, but without putting any effort into it I keep catching the show on the air anyway
15:13 <@critch> okay
15:13 <@Dagmar> ...although I'm probably going to look more closely at some of the podcast catching options for MythTV after you've mentioned that
15:14 <@critch> yeah, I have been enjoying Adam Curry's podcast. Not so much the one from John C. Dovorak, and I like a few of the mashup podcasts.
15:14 <@Evilpig> anyone have alot of experience troubleshooting a crackberry
15:15 <@coil> server push
15:15 <@coil> ~google for server push
15:15 <+MxZBot> Google says server push is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_technology or http://www.goldfish.org/books/O'Reilly%20Java%20Enterprise%20CD%20Bookshelf/servlet/ch06_03.htm or http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/mozsdk/serverpush.php
15:16 <@coil> interesting
15:20 <@Dagmar> They're going to laugh at me when I get over there to pick up the car
15:21 <@Dagmar> When Frank called, I was asleep, and as he's asking "Is this ...." I walked right into my damn bedroom door because the lights were still off and my eyes weren't quite as open as they needed to be just then
15:21 <@Dagmar> I responded with "Ugh... yeah, but I might not be for much longer if I keep walking into doors like that"
15:22 <@Dagmar> I'm lucky I don't have a big mark on my face
15:25 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: What's wrong with the instrument cluster?
15:29 <@oddball> the odometer is busted
15:46 <@Mirage> and not all the lights come on
15:47 <@SkyDog_> fun...
15:48 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: You e phone that everyone had (razr) for the phone that every
15:48 <@SkyDog_> fuck...
15:48 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: You able to come to the meeting on friday?
15:48  * brimstone takes away SkyDog_'s mouse
15:48 <@SkyDog_> errant right click...
15:48 <@brimstone> you can't use it
15:48 <@SkyDog_> pretty fucking much...
15:49 <@brimstone> just unplug it now
15:49 <@brimstone> i'll be by to pick it up after work
15:49 <@SkyDog_> k.
15:49 <@brimstone> speaking of which, do you guys know of a simple, easy to use, (think art major) app for configuring samba shares in 10.5 ?
15:50 <@SkyDog_> Hmmm. webmin?
15:51 <@brimstone> it'd be great if i can just point him to a single app to download and run that configures the smb.conf for him
15:51 <@brimstone> webmin is a bit much to setup
15:51 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: System Preferences -> Sharing isn't good enough?
15:52 <@brimstone> i dunno, i've not used that
15:52 <@brimstone> and i don't have a mac handy anymore to test with :/
15:52 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: it's pretty darn easy
15:53 <@Corydon76-dig> You click the little box that says "Windows File Sharing"
15:53 <@brimstone> does that just open up the dropboxes ?
15:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Then it tells you you need to enable an account for that
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15:55 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: it allows access to your home directory, I think
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16:10 <@coil> hey i made wpa_supplicant work
16:11 <@coil> wow
16:11 <@coil> but i dont get it why debians networkmanager doesn't see the diff between wpa and wep
16:13 <@brimstone> my debian's networkmanager works great with my atheros
16:14 <@coil> are you suppost to create wifi0 inside of netowrkmgr, or just use ath0
16:15 <@brimstone> ath0 gets created when it boots, my /etc/network/interfaces doesn't have anything in it
16:15 <@coil> im using xfce
16:16 <@brimstone> shouldn't make a difference
16:16 <@brimstone> i've used nm-applet with fluxbox
16:16 <@coil> ahhh
16:16 <@coil> i didn't have that before
16:16 <@critch> heh, makes you wonder how sensitive her boobs are. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2266900/Teenager-finds-baby-bat-in-her-bra.html
16:16 <@coil> i had to go in system settings to change interfaces
16:17 <@coil> but nm-applet doesn't detect my wireless cards
16:17 <@coil> is it because im using it ?
16:18 <@coil> ~google for debian xfce lock screen
16:18 <+MxZBot> Google says debian xfce lock screen is at http://osdir.com/ml/linux.debian.devel.xfce/2007-12/msg00125.html or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=581264
16:19 <@brimstone> usually your screensaver program locks your screen, not your windowing environment
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16:20 <@coil> i dont even see a screen saver setting
16:21 <@critch> coil: make sure you install xscreensaver
16:36 <@brimstone> or gnome-screensaver
16:41 <@critch> http://www.linuxkungfu.org/images/fun/geek/project.jpg
16:45 <@coil> omg wheres my mouse???
16:46 <@coil> gnome-screensaver is already the newest version.
16:46 <@coil> why is stuff so hard to find in xfce :/
16:47 <@brimstone> it's not gnome
16:53 <@coil> apparently i didn't have anything
16:55 <@coil> everything installed for xfce*
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17:26 <@Evilpig> has anyone in here ever used any products from "wave 7" ?  this is like high end fiber stuff primarily for utilities and the like
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18:36 <@brimstone> http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/ hehe
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19:19 < Neoteric_> damnit
19:19 < Neoteric_> I started this problem w/ one problem
19:19 < Neoteric_> now I think I can use a regex to fix it... now I have two problems
19:22 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: ping
19:31 <@aestetix> dongz
19:31 <@aestetix> Neoteric_: what's the problem
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19:49 < Neoteric_> aestetix: parsing other people's doms gives you SARS
20:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric_: you know others would be happy to lend you assistance if you're having trouble, right?
20:10 <@Corydon76-dig> No need to be a lone wolf
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20:16 < Neoteric_> Corydon76: only if cocks had monkeys
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20:27 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Pong
20:29 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: http://pastebin.ca/1068719
20:29 <@Evilpig> best tanking macro ever
20:30 <@Dagmar> YES!
20:30 <@Dagmar> That is awesome
20:30 <@Evilpig> we were bored so I wrote that to entertain us
20:31 <@Dagmar> Hell we could have the Blizzard Rock Paper Scissors Championships with a little elaboration on that scrip
20:33 <@Dagmar> Darn it it's very hard to find really serious information about plastic #6
20:33 <@Dagmar> From something I did earlier I get the feeling the pliant nature of the stuff *after* cooling to near room temperature is something that goes away as a curing process
20:33 <@Dagmar> ...but I can't be sure without some bloody materials info Google ain't bein' much help with
20:34 <@Dagmar> I tried reheating one of those shrinkydinks twice last night and it refused to become pliable again
20:35 <@Dagmar> So what if I approach arts and crafts as a matter of material sciences
20:37 <@Evilpig> hehe
20:38 <@Evilpig> if only you knew about wave7
20:38 <@Evilpig> then you'd be my hero tonight
20:38 <@ware> oh hai cunts
20:38  * ware gives Evilpig the reach around
20:39 <@Evilpig> I need an adult
20:40 <@Evilpig> http://www.wave7optics.com/lml.htm  <-- cool shit
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20:42 <@ware> neat
20:47 <+AstralSin> sup ware
20:47 <@ware> not shit
20:47 <@ware> drinkin a beer surfin the net
20:47 <+AstralSin> i hear that
20:47 <@ware> bout to go chill in the hot tub and trying to figure out how i can bring a beer down there
20:47 <+AstralSin> shouldnt be rocket science
20:48 <@ware> enumeratin the hotel network at the moment
20:48 <+AstralSin> oh, you're at a hotel
20:48 <@ware> yeah, training for sonicwall in columbus ohio
20:48 <+AstralSin> keister the beer and run a retractable tube from it
20:48 <+AstralSin> ah
20:48 <+AstralSin> man, i don't like the corporate world
20:48 <+AstralSin> i feel like i've sold my soul to the man
20:48 <@ware> full of elitest pricks, just like any community... *looks around*
20:49 <+AstralSin> and getting complimented every day makes me feel even worse
20:49 <@ware> YAY! YOURE NOT AS MUCH OF A FUCKING TOOL AS THE REST OF US!
20:49 <@ware> *GOLD STAR*
20:49 <+AstralSin> exactly
20:50 <@ware> most of the guys in class today seemed to be noobs
20:50 <@ware> the one guy that went to lunch with us was bashing digium and asterisk hard
20:50 <+AstralSin> they probably are
20:50 <@ware> and promoting shortel
20:50 <@ware> be he was pretty cool
20:50 <@ware> shoretel*
20:50 <@ware> some uppity in the company
20:51 <+AstralSin> my head is swimming with hatred for the nortel vpn client
20:51 <@ware> and of course my coworker and i are accompanied by the biggest fucktard security guy
20:51 <+AstralSin> hahaha
20:51 <@ware> "security guy"
20:51 <@ware> at work
20:51 <@ware> hes such a condescending prick and acts like hes God's gift to networks
20:52 <+AstralSin> i cant wait till i get paid next week
20:52 <@ware> i figured it out tho, i grew up in a home where there was a lot of encouragement and praise and not a lot of demeaning / condesceding bs
20:53 <@ware> money is good
20:53 <@sdodson> ware: what happened?
20:53 <@ware> just ppl being dicks to me
20:53 <@ware> its cause they dont know how to communicate
20:53 <@ware> or they place their self worth in knowing they are better than the next person
20:54 <@ware> its their flaw not mine, and i should pity them for their condition
20:54 <@ware> fucking cunts.
20:54 <@ware> ;)
20:54 <@ware> and of course im not like that, so i come off like a bitch
20:54 <@ware> cause i let it slide like it doesnt bother me, but the first time i hit them with a comeback im the asshole
20:55 <@ware> ANYWAYS, point of the story is since i quit drinking it doesnt take much to get me buzzing
20:55 <@ware> so with that i leave you with my nonsense and head to the hot tub
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20:56 <@sdodson> ware:bummerz
20:57 <@sdodson> ware: I think always being smarter, richer, cooler, etc than the other person is an integral part of being human
20:57 <@ware> do i seem like that?
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20:58 <@sdodson> Nah, not really.
20:58 <@ware> *shrug*
20:58 <@ware> bbiab
20:58 <+AstralSin> yeah, you do
20:59 <@sdodson> some people hide it well, but i think the urge is there in all of us
20:59 <@sdodson> Except dagmar, he has no intentions of proving he's better than anyone.
20:59 <@sdodson> EVAR!
21:20 <@tzanger> wtf is the difference between a half dozen people logged in to Terminal Server and a half dozen people logged into a citrix server?  I've never understood the difference
21:21 <@dc0de> tzanger, capabilites.
21:21 <@tzanger> dc0de: can you elaborate?
21:21 <@dc0de> Terminal Server was written by Citrix, and given to M$oft when they pushed hard against Citrix during the build of windows 2000.
21:22 <@dc0de> Citrix gave them a "stripped down" version of Citrix, and it was dubbed, Terminal Server.
21:22 <@dc0de> Citrix is more efficient, provides more capabilities, and isn't as resource intensive as Terminal Services.
21:23 <@tzanger> hmm
21:23 <@tzanger> I'm considering netbooting these fucking workstations and letting them all work off the win2k3 small biz server through terminal services
21:23 <@tzanger> the syhstems are all athlon-grade, 256 or 512MB systems
21:23 <@dc0de> that'd be "bad".
21:24 <@tzanger> instead of running xp pro on each of them
21:24 <@tzanger> yeah see I know nothing about win admin
21:24 <@dc0de> I don't think SBS would support that.
21:24 <@tzanger> maybe not the netboot side, but get a few more CALs for termianl server and it would probably do the trick
21:24 <@tzanger> SBS only supports 2 out of the box
21:24 <@ware> that will work, the netbooting will not
21:25 <@tzanger> I can make it netboot :-)
21:26 <@dc0de> you won't be able to netboot 100 systems in a timely fashion.
21:26 <@tzanger> uh, this is six systems total
21:26 <@tzanger> MAYBE ten within 2 years
21:26 <@dc0de> not from a SBS server.
21:26 <@tzanger> what are you talking abotu 100 systems though
21:27 <@dc0de> sorry, I misread...
21:27 <@dc0de> 12 systems?
21:27 <@dc0de> I still wouldn't netboot.
21:27 <@dc0de> I would lock them down to do ONLY terminal services.
21:27 <@tzanger> no, six right now, MAYBE 10 within 2 years
21:27 <@tzanger> hmm
21:27 <@tzanger> that's an option
21:27 <@dc0de> I still would NOT netboot
21:28 <@tzanger> they got talked into a single quad core xeon with 4G RAM and 4 500G SATA drives, I wiped it and put xen on it and installed win2k3 sbs on an instance, they'll get a little more use out of that hardware then
21:28 <@tzanger> er this way
21:30 <@dc0de> true, I would avoid netbooting, as it will simply make your life harder when you need to perform updates, add new capabilities, and expand the needs of the system in general.
21:33 <@Catonic> ... but the vast majority of the time, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a cheating whore girlfriend. -Tucker Max
21:41 <@Evilpig> I was with you tzanger up to the sbs part and then you lost me
21:42 <@Evilpig> sbs is like going to a bar asking to see the skankiest bitch in the place and hoping she's got aids
21:44 <@tzanger> hhaha
21:44 <@tzanger> I did not buy this system
21:44 <@tzanger> I didnt even recommend it
21:44 <@tzanger> I got stuck with it
21:44 <@tzanger> I can't believe they got suckered into a fucking quad core system for *6* employees
21:45 <@tzanger> the little P3 fileserver I put in there was doing just fine
21:45 <@tzanger> hell I even had an encrypted filesystem in there so when theives steal the fileserver again (since they refuse to put it somewhere secure) their data won't be compromised
21:52 <@Evilpig> this thing listed here on the small-to medium business is what I am hoping to be working with tomorrow. http://www.wave7optics.com/productGateway.htm
21:52 <@Evilpig> LMG-1444T
22:06 <@Mirage> Evilpig: gonna be at the cave Sat?
22:09 <@tzanger> hmm, was BIND 9.x affected by that big DNS update?
22:10 <@sdodson> It's my understanding that yes it was.
22:10 <@sdodson> It's not a code flaw but a conceptual problem.
22:10 <@tzanger> hmm
22:10 <@tzanger> this is gonna suck to update my old slack 9.x box
22:19 <@Evilpig> no.  i'm working this weekend again
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22:37 <@sdodson> dasunt: drunk?
22:37 <@coil> when is he never
22:42 <@tzanger> actually that wasn't bad at all
22:42 <@tzanger> slackware is still providing patches for 10.0
22:46 <@sdodson> hoooray
22:46 <@sdodson> coil: ya, srsly
22:49 <+dasunt> sdodson: Sober tonight.
22:49 <+dasunt> Drank too much last night.
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22:57 <@tzanger>  /nick n'roll
22:57 <@tzanger> :-)
22:57 <@sdodson> omg you're totally witty!
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23:02 <@ware>  /nick at night?
23:02 <@sdodson> /nick /nick /whois there
23:02 <@tzanger> rattle at night?
23:04 <@ware> haha
23:04 <@ware>  /nick elodeon
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23:04 <@olascage> shit
23:04 -!- olascage is now known as ware
23:04 <@coil> /diaf
23:04 <@sdodson> man nickoloedon was leet back in the day
23:04 <@tzanger> ok that's pretty good
23:04 <@sdodson> coil: you're so friendly
23:04 <@coil> i know
23:05 <@ware> shreepy time
23:05 <@ware> g'night all
23:05 <@coil> kthxbai
23:05 <@coil> i wonder if the cops are here yet
23:09 <@sdodson> coil: why da fuzz?
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23:19 <@coil> sdodson: drama at friends house
23:19 <@coil> this dude keeps harassing them
23:26 <@sdodson> hooray e2fsprogs supports ext4 now
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