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07:59 <@NotLarry> ware: you on?
08:00 <@Shadow404> thats a loaded question...
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08:01 <@NotLarry> So, stupid question.  I have a windows box here, a linux server (ubuntu maybe?) on the other end hosting a website I want to edit.  I want to edit locally on, oh, lets say nvu which supports ftp but not scp.  I don't have ftp running on the remote box.  besides saving locally and using wscp any suggestions?  I can't tunnel to the ftp server unless I really start one up:) (guess I could do that and set it to only accept connections from localhos
08:02 <@NotLarry> Shadow404: Well, I was going to be out in the area and maybe on the skateboard, thought of ware
08:02 <@Shadow404> i can call and wake his ass up
08:03 <@NotLarry> na, don't fuck with him this time of day
08:03 <@Shadow404> yeah, he most likely has a hangover right now
08:03 <@NotLarry> fucking lost all my numbers when I killed my phone
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08:03 <@NotLarry> don't we all
08:03 <@Shadow404> nah, im just tired as shit
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08:04 <@shadowmoss> morning
08:04 <@Shadow404> oh hai
08:04 <@shadowmoss> you up already nl?
08:04 <@NotLarry> found that someone was using a sponge for an air filter on my bike.  That may solve some of the fuel issues:)  gonna go get a throttle cable and air filter this morning when the kid wakes up
08:04 <@Shadow404> cool
08:04 <@NotLarry> shadowmoss: yeah, you sound so surprised.  not like you kept me up all night
08:05 <@Shadow404> shadowmoss: that quick?
08:05 <@NotLarry> Shadow404: Yeah, the down side is that if that works then I have to buy tires and actually start riding it.
08:05 <@shadowmoss> nl - I tried!
08:06 <@NotLarry> shadowmoss: I don't want to say what i found in my bed when I woke up.  that sort of thing will bring unwarrented attention:)
08:06 <@shadowmoss> a pussy?
08:06 <@NotLarry> shadowmoss: A 13 year old.
08:07 <@shadowmoss> ah, well, uhh...
08:07 <@shadowmoss> that's between you and the 13yo
08:07 <@NotLarry> I got to go trim shadowmoss'
08:07 <@NotLarry> s bush, be right back.
08:07 <@shadowmoss> yeah, do a good job
08:08 <@shadowmoss> I'm gonna go tell the guys about your new version of air filter on the bike
08:20 <@ware> NotLarry: yeah
08:22 <@ware> i still havent bought a board
08:27 <@NotLarry> ok
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08:32 <@ware> AUSTELL, Georgia - Officials in the state of Georgia ordered a popular roller coaster that hit and killed a teenager over the weekend to remain closed Monday.
08:32 <@ware> Asia LeeShawn Ferguson IV died Saturday at the Six Flags Over Georgia amusement park after police said he hopped two fences and wandered into a restricted area where he was decapitated by the Batman roller coaster. Police said an autopsy determined the teen's death was an accident.
08:32 <@ware> duhhrr
08:33 <@I-MOD> or she wanted to die....
08:33 <@I-MOD> either way, not the park's fault
08:34 <@ware> he*
08:34 <@Shadow404> agreed, they did their part
08:34 <@Shadow404> they secured it with not just one, but two fences
08:34 <@Shadow404> if your dumbass self wants to scale two 6 foot fences and then get hit by a roller coaster, you own fucking fault
08:34 <@ware> yah
08:34 <@Shadow404> at least the family said they dont hold six flags accountable for his actions
08:35 <@Corydon76-dig> I would hope not
08:36 <@I-MOD> wait...the family isn't sueing?  thank god someone has some sense
08:36 <@Shadow404> agreed, i was rather suprised
08:37 <@Shadow404> in the interview, the kept going on about how christ played a big role in his life
08:38 <@Shadow404> i was like, what does that have to do with your son being stupid and killing himself
08:38 <@Shadow404> im starting to think from the stories i pieced together, that the boy was trying to get back into the park without having to walk back around to the front gate
08:39 <@Shadow404> which is about 500 yds from the outside of the batman ride
08:39 <@oddball> Well, that's just spiffy... Dell is shipping some of their towers with vid card drivers that don't do widescreen.
08:39 <@Shadow404> cause his family was having lunch in the pinic area in the parking lot
08:39 <@Shadow404> that or the boy was trying to get to the picnic area wihout going to the exit of th park
08:39 <@oddball> I think he was on a church trip
08:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: I dunno, I find there are lots of people who think Christ plays a big role in their lives tend to get nominated for Darwin awards
08:40 <@Shadow404> yeah, but either way, i think the boy was trying to shortcut the main exit/entrance and got himself killed for being stupid
08:40 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: yeah
08:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Apparently "Christ playing a big role" negates personal responsiblity for ones actions
08:41 <@Shadow404> yeah, thats what i gather when someone says that
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08:47 <@rhia> expounded on that theme, when Katrina hit the Gulf coast, GOD was sending a message about how evil NOLA peeps are, but the flooding in the midwest is just GOD playing a big, mysterious role in the lives of the good (Christian) people of the heartland ....
08:48 <@Shadow404> lawl
08:48 <@Shadow404> where did you get this?
08:49 <@rhia> just following the news and the pronouncements of the various evangelicals
08:50 <@GodFix> Or both Katrina and the midwest flooding are just occurrences and nature
08:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, there have been stories of the floods in the Midwest having been a clear lack of understanding of the forces of Nature.
08:53  * ware has lost his ipod cable
08:53 <@Corydon76-dig> When you restrict the banks of a river, the only place for the water to go is up!
08:54 <@ware> rhia: God hates NOLA
08:54 <@ware> for real
08:54 <@ware> its like the sewage drain of the United States
08:55 <@ware> all the shit eventually ends up down there
08:55 <@ware> along with the rest of the crap this nation can conjure up
08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: I didn't realize you were born in NOLA
08:57 <@Shadow404> makes sense to me
09:01 <@NotLarry> rhia: damn you still here?  I thought I warned you the end was near?
09:05 <@ware> Corydon76-dig: im surprised you werent!
09:06 <@ware> nola is shit, was shit before katrina, and still is shit afterwards
09:07 <@ware> like the flight stewardess that got bit by j-lo's dog and is sueing for 5 million dollars
09:07 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: No, I was born in Bethlehem
09:07 <@ware> pieces of shit looking for a handout
09:07 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: it's a wonder I'm not the chosen One
09:07 <@ware> Corydon76-dig: thats between you and God
09:08 <@Shadow404> ware: you know you would do the same thing if it meant a possible $5 mill pay out
09:08 <@ware> no i wouldnt
09:08 <@ware> its a democratic attitude
09:08 <@Shadow404> well, i would
09:08 <@ware> why should i have to work when someone else (the government) will take care of me?
09:08 <@Shadow404> heh
09:08 <@ware> ill just sit around and deal drugs
09:09 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: no, it's a white trash attitude
09:09 <@Shadow404> i was taling about j-lo and the dog
09:09 <@ware> and watch sitcoms and trailer trash talk shows all day
09:09 <@Shadow404> ware: that and i hate j-lo
09:09 <@ware> Corydon76-dig: white trash == democrats
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09:10 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: actually, white trash tends to vote Republican
09:10 <@ware> and white trash == old newspapers
09:10 <@ware> debating politics in here is like trying to get you off my back, it aint happenin
09:11 <@ware> and its not going to go anywhere lol
09:11 <@ware> Obama ftl, EOF
09:12 <@Shadow404> agreed
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09:15 <@rhia> political races routinely come down to the lesser of two evils
09:15 <@GodFix> I think McCain is the lesser
09:15 <@GodFix> I was really going for Huckabee
09:15 <@rhia> I think that giving the GOP another 4 yrs is by far the worse evil
09:15 <@ware> eh, im still waiting for Iran to attack
09:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Iran won't attack, unprovoked
09:16 <@ware> then Bush and company to make something up where they stay in ofice
09:16 <@rhia> GodFix: and I am NOT a Democrat
09:16 <@ware> well then they will initiate something to attack Iran "with reason"
09:16 <@ware> just like we did for Iraq
09:16 <@ware> if not now then with Jeb
09:16 <@Corydon76-dig> We at least need someone to restore the rights Bush has trampled all over for the past 6 years
09:17 <@Corydon76-dig> The pendulum is swinging back, I think.  The only question is, how far and how quickly will it swing to the other extreme?
09:17 <@polerin> GodFix: why is McCain the lesser?
09:18 <@GodFix> personal bias
09:19 <@Corydon76-dig> I think McCain is likely to extend the policies that have led to a weakened dollar and a weakened economy.  The war has been financed by China and Japan, and that's the reason we're in a slump
09:19 <@GodFix> I'd vote for Gilligan if it would make a difference
09:19 <@I-MOD> why choose the lesser of evils? Cthulu for president!
09:20 <@rhia> as in "i didn't vote for Hillary cuz i hate pantsuits" or as in "i didn't vote for Hillary cuz her social programs were too socialist"?
09:20 <@Corydon76-dig> We need to rollback the tax cuts, cut spending, spend a few decades with a surplus, and we can be rid of this monkey on our backs
09:20 <@rhia> personal bias covers a lot of ground
09:20 <@polerin> GodFix: he supports infringing on the first and fourth amendments, is a unabashed hawk who is going to push an overstressed millitary, and is doing his best to suck up to the religious right which is trying to suppress everything that smells even slightly of free will
09:21 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: Ross Perot for Prez!
09:21 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: "It's the Economy, Stupid"
09:22 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: "why are you calling me stupid?" ;)
09:22 <@rhia> http://perotcharts.com/
09:22 <@polerin> hehe
09:22 <@Corydon76-dig> McCain has said exactly the opposite of what we need to do to fix the economy.  He wants to continue the war (and spending) and keep the tax cuts
09:23 <@I-MOD> i'd rather the country not go further into debt
09:23 <@polerin> ding!
09:23 <@polerin> and everyones so upset about the medical thing
09:23 <@oddball> Corydon76-dig: so, raising taxes will fix the economy how?
09:23 <@polerin> like zomg creeping socialismz!
09:23 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: I'd like to see a policy and a plan for cutting the national debt in half, at least
09:24 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: good financial policy and a strong dollar
09:24 <@polerin> oddball: raising taxes in and of itself will not.  Repealing tax cuts that apply in large part to the people that are making more than enough to get by will
09:25 <@polerin> oddball: Cutting spending is great.. except that the country has shown itself routinely unwilling to cut it's largest expenditure, the millitary
09:25 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: I want a surplus by this time next year.
09:25 <@polerin> instead we spend more money on anti-balistic missile shields
09:25 <@rhia> oddball: well, making sure that companies getting gubment contracts have actually PAID their taxes, checking up on Medicare/Medicaid receiving businesses to make sure they even OFFER anything remotely akin to the medical world, etc etc would help tremendously
09:25 <@Corydon76-dig> and I want that surplus to be used for cutting down the national debt
09:25 <@oddball> rhia: I agree with that, but I've yet to hear any politian actually talk about doing that
09:26 <@rhia> but stopping pouring billions down the war drain would be an even bigger help
09:26 <@GodFix> Obama is inexperienced. I don't like the view of "the government should take care of the people"
09:26 <@Corydon76-dig> The first president Bush was correct in seeking a lean elite military
09:26 <@polerin> bah
09:27 <@Corydon76-dig> and I'd like to see us go back to that, as well as keeping the military on hand for defense, not invasions
09:27 <@rhia> GodFix: so you like McCain's view that the gubment should only take care of the Rich people?
09:27 <@polerin> the first president didn't seek a lean millitary.  He just wanted to cut payrole so he could shovel more money into contracts
09:27 <@oddball> you do realize that going back to the first Bush's military would actually require more money, right?
09:27 <@GodFix> i just said the lesser of two evils
09:27 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: I have more respect for the elder Bush than that
09:28 <@polerin> GodFix: the government's only purpose is to serve the people
09:28 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: I don't.  especially when it comes to millitary expenditures
09:28 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: the cuts were continued under Clinton
09:28 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: but I'll give credit to the elder Bush for starting the process
09:29 <@rhia> GodFix: so, the lesser of two evils is to "stay the course" in Iraq, at the enormous costs, for "a hundred years, if needed" ?
09:29 <@GodFix> polerin: yes, it should server the people, not be a crutch for people that don't want to work
09:29 <@polerin> GodFix: the most serious threat to the US is the widening gap between the classes income.
09:29 <@polerin> GodFix: How is Obama wanting to serve as a crutch?
09:30 <@rhia> and the lesser evil is to continue to allow the US healthcare system to fall further and further behind some 2nd world countries?
09:30 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: Um, the US is a second world country
09:30 <@rhia> we have some fantabulous medical abilities - for those who can afford them
09:30 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: hence the use of the term
09:30 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: the US is NOT a second world country
09:30 <@polerin> that is patently impossible
09:31 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: Old World, New World, Third World
09:31 <@polerin> A second world country is a country that was aligned with the USSR in the cold war
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09:31 <@polerin> a first world country was a country aligned with the US
09:31 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: the US is the very definition of the second world
09:31 <@GodFix> rhia: if we don't stay in Iraq, then 9-11 and everything we see over there will become an everyday occurance over here
09:31 <@polerin> and a third world was a country so poor as to be uninteresting to the two superpowers
09:31 <@oddball> Corydon76-dig: nope, polerin is correct
09:31 <@rhia> GodFix: ???
09:32 <@GodFix> By keeping troops over there, we're keeping the terrorists busy and off our soil
09:32 <@rhia> you think IRAQ is stopping terrorist attacks HERE?
09:32 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: source?
09:32 <@polerin> GodFix: buillshit :)
09:32 <@GodFix> it's supressing them
09:32 <@polerin> it is not
09:33 <@polerin> it is killing SOME of them
09:33 <@rhia> GodFix: Iraq is not "the terrorists"
09:33 <@polerin> at an enormous cost
09:33 <@GodFix> can you prove there would be little to no terrorist attacks on US soil if we pulled out?
09:33 <@oddball> Corydon76-dig: sorry, I don't have my middle-school social studies book with me at the moment.  Why don't you provide a source proving your case since the opinion is 2-1.
09:33 <@polerin> while providing them with enourmous propaganda
09:33 <@polerin> GodFix: can you prove that there would be?
09:34 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: Nah, I have real work to do
09:34 <@rhia> "terrorism" is an action based on Ideas, is it NOT confined by sovereign countries lines
09:34 <@polerin> GodFix: by the way
09:34 <@polerin> NO CHANGING THE SUBJECT
09:34 <@polerin> How is Obama wanting to have the govmn't serving as a crutch?
09:34 <@GodFix> our current actions are so far providing that proof
09:34 <@rhia> attack Iraq to keep terrorists over there is like plugging the sink to stop the rain
09:34 <@polerin> GodFix: no, they aren't
09:35 <@polerin> GodFix: lack of an attack is no proof that continuing in the same way won't provoke one
09:35 <@GodFix> no, but provoking debate is fun
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09:36 <@polerin> The fact taht nobody has broken into my car because I leave it unlocked is no proof that leaving it unlocked is the safer path
09:36 <@polerin> also
09:36 <@polerin> how is obama wanting to serve as a crutch
09:36 <@rhia> GodFix: and when was the last attack on our soil? 1 yr, 2 yrs before? ... oh, yeah, about a decade or so ...
09:36 <@rhia> yeah, going into Iraq really stopped that stream of attacks over here!
09:37 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: wasn't the previous attack (OK City) a domestic terrorist, though?
09:37 <@rhia> (obviously, "before" meaning "before 9/11"
09:37 <@rhia> yep
09:37 <@rhia> but i was more specifically meaning "by a foreigner"
09:37 <@Corydon76-dig> So how does fighting the war in Iraq stop domestic terrorists?
09:38 <@Corydon76-dig> or Mexican terrorists (read: drug cartel)?
09:38 <@brimstone> like pancake batter on a small puppy
09:38 <@rhia> the van bomb attack against the Trade Center tower, especially
09:38 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: ... that was her point.
09:38 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: re-read what she was saying :)
09:38 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: she was talking about the previous WTC bombing, in '91?
09:38 <@GodFix> Socializing medicine and government programs. having the government provide all your needs. Why work if big brother is gonna make sure you have anything you need?
09:38 <@rhia> polerin: thank you =)
09:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Just pointing out that there are other terrorists...
09:39 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: no, she was saying that the lack of an attack since s-11 was no proof of the effacacy of the iraq war in stopping terrorist attacks on US soil
09:39 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: yeah, our being in Iraq has been so successful - see, it hasn't yet been another decade and them damned furriners ain't attacked us agin yet!
09:39 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: and I agree with that...
09:40 <@polerin> as the large gaps and infrequent nature of said attacks makes gaps such as the one we are in now meaningless
09:40 <@Lissa> I think naptime will solve everything.
09:40 <@Corydon76-dig> so, 2011, if we keep this up, and maybe he'll have a point... if another attack hasn't occurred by then
09:40 <@rhia> the logic that the sentiment that being in Iraq has anything to do with stopping terrorist attacks here ... defies logic
09:41  * Lissa naps on Erin
09:41 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: who knows? maybe that's what the GOP wants us to think....
09:41 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: meh, no 2011 would still be sorta false I would believe.  what was the time before that attack where we had a terrorist action against the US
09:42  * polerin hugs lissa
09:42 <@Corydon76-dig> rhia: not that you really can have a statistic probability with only 2 data points anyway
09:42 <@polerin> GodFix: you still haven't answered how the Government will be a crutch under obama
09:42 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: major?  93 (domestic) or 91 (international)
09:42 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: three if you want to include the Pan-Am hostages
09:43 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: when was that?
09:43 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: what I'm saying is that it's not a regularly timed event, so saying "eh, if it has been a decade or two since the last one .. war made it not happen)
09:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Pan-Am, to me, always evokes the bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland
09:44 <@polerin> I'd be far more interested in examining the socio-economic and political factors that come into play
09:44 <@polerin> Corydon76-dig: ... I thought it was pan am... could be wrong.
09:44 <@polerin> the carter hostages
09:44 <@polerin> GodFix: Crutch!
09:44 <@rhia> my point is that we weren't being attacked routinely, like, oh, Israel/West Bank, pick 1/4 of Africa. etc etc .... so seeing a LACK of attacks, on an area of the world that hadn't seen a whole lot of them to begin with, does NOT equate to a policy of Over There being successful
09:44 <@GodFix> damit polein, hold on,
09:45 <@Corydon76-dig> showertime
09:45 <@Lissa> pan-am was 78 or 79..wasn't it?
09:45  * brimstone didn't start the fire
09:45 <@Shadow404> ok, so changing topic, im buying a new phone, what is a good data phone on the market right now? any comments on the blackberry curve? im looking for one that has gps built in preference, but if it has good support for gps functions and is external that is ok too.
09:46 <@brimstone> iphone 3g
09:46 <@Shadow404> im with tmobile and prefer to stay with them
09:46 <@GodFix> socializing human services. the government shouldn't provide basic needs for the people, they should provide that for themselves
09:46 <@Shadow404> brimstone: iphone 3g out for tmobile?
09:46 <@brimstone> Shadow404: doesn't scotchick's crackberry have a gps?
09:46 <@polerin> GodFix: I asked the question ...almost 20 min ago ;P
09:46 <@Evilpig> so nice to come into work one morning without the world crashing down around my ears
09:46 <@Shadow404> brimstone: it can external
09:46 <@polerin> GodFix: Such as what, Medical insurance?
09:46 <@brimstone> doesn't she have a 8320?
09:46 <@polerin> GodFix: or medicine?
09:46 <@Shadow404> yeah
09:46 <@I-MOD> no internal gps is lame
09:47 <@Shadow404> I-MOD: agreed
09:47 <@Lissa> I want someone to fix my computer.
09:47 <@brimstone> I-MOD: lack of internal gps or the internal gps is lame?
09:47 <@Shadow404> i thought iphone was still for at&t only?
09:47 <@brimstone> Shadow404: it si
09:47 <@GodFix> polerin: excusine me for having a job at being at work
09:47 <@Lissa> she's at work too
09:47 <@Shadow404> damn
09:47 <@polerin> GodFix: I do too, course I just woke up ;P
09:47 <@GodFix> but yes, suc as medical insurance and coverage
09:47 <@I-MOD> brimstone, lack
09:47 <@polerin> GodFix: Tell me btw, how I am supposed to provide insurance for myself.
09:47 <@Shadow404> ok, in the tmobile product line, what do u guys suggest for the requirments i mentioned?
09:48 <@GodFix> get a job and work for it
09:48 <@polerin> I have a job.
09:48 <@rhia> GodFix: lolol
09:48 <@GodFix> maybe your employer would provide group coverage
09:48 <@polerin> I'm bettering myself
09:48 <@polerin> through a good job
09:48 <@GodFix> but the government shouldn't be a silver spoon for people
09:48 <@polerin> It's a small buisness
09:48 <@polerin> not enough employees for group
09:49 <@polerin> they give a stipend for private insurance
09:49 <@GodFix> then there are some small insurance companies
09:49 <@polerin> and none of them will insure me
09:49 <@brimstone> Shadow404: i can't suggest any as they're all crap
09:49 <@Shadow404> yeah
09:50 <@Shadow404> tmobile needs better phones
09:50 <@GodFix> then you're just in a bad bucket
09:50 <@Shadow404> i might jsut switch at this rate
09:50 <@GodFix> but
09:50 <@rhia> GodFix: and polerin is the only person in America in that bucket?
09:50 <@brimstone> asking for a "smart" phone that doesn't run windows mobile is out of line apparently
09:50 <@polerin> I'm 26, exercise regularly, eat healthy, don't smoke, and am not overweight
09:51 <@GodFix> but
09:51 <@polerin> GodFix: And that's your solution for how I'm supposed to provide health care?
09:51 <@brimstone> way to be different polerin
09:51 <@GodFix> hehe... BUT
09:51 <@Shadow404> brimstone: brings me to next question
09:51 <@Shadow404> windows mobile?
09:51  * polerin relaxes in her LONELY BUCKET
09:51 <@Shadow404> whats that like?
09:51 <@polerin> BUKKET!
09:51 <@rhia> polerin: not to mention married with a steady work history ..... ;)
09:51 <@rhia> polerin haz a bukket!
09:51 <@GodFix> ok, maybe I should rephrase
09:51  * Lissa looks at said bucket...wow...look at the 3.6 million other people WHO HAS MAH BUKKET!
09:51 <@polerin> No
09:51 <@brimstone> Shadow404: i've had to mess with the t-mobile dash units at work, and i don't like it
09:52 <@GodFix> government shoiuldn't be in the business of welfare
09:52 <@polerin> you said what you meant
09:52 <@GodFix> free handouts
09:52 <@brimstone> also, if you lose power to the device, it'll reset
09:52 <@brimstone> and you need a windows machine to resync it
09:52 <@brimstone> which i don't have
09:52 <@polerin> free handouts my ass.  Have you seen what the income limit for welfare is?
09:52 <@rhia> GodFix: and McCain is going to end the welfare program(s)?
09:52 <@brimstone> Shadow404: i like to poke around on phonescoop.com from time to time
09:53 <@GodFix> no, I've never sought govt assistance
09:53 <@polerin> And if you get a job at all you are disqualified for it, except most of the jobs that are avalible to the average welfare enrollees are minimum wage and don't touch what the average living expense is today?
09:53 <@Shadow404> nice, page 5 on tmobile phone browser is fucked up
09:53 <@GodFix> I didn't say he would, I just said the lesser of 2 evils
09:53 <@polerin> you want to fix welfare?
09:53 <@Lissa> the federal poverty limit for a family of say, 3 is $17,600 a year
09:53 <@rhia> GodFix: the numbers are available online, you don't have to apply to find them out
09:53 <@polerin> Uncap the system somewhat, but limit time
09:53 <@Lissa> I would like to see some of the people in here try to raise a family on less than $20,000 a year
09:54 <@Evilpig> stupid 3ware.  their "fix" didn't fix it
09:54 <@Lissa> and provide adequate housing, food, insurance
09:54 <@Evilpig> just delayed the problem for a few days
09:54 <@rhia> GodFix: so, how is McCain supposedly the lesser evil when it comes to welfare? what's he supposed to do - get everyone jobs?
09:54 <@brimstone> i wonder if i could get a blackberry bold to mess with
09:54 <@Lissa> granpa munster
09:54 <@polerin> hehe
09:55 <@I-MOD> Lissa, i agree that it would be damn hard to do, which is why i wouldn't attempt that in the first place
09:55  * Lissa nods
09:55 <@I-MOD> some people don't understand that
09:55 <@Lissa> the government says it can be done without assistance
09:55 <@Lissa> if you make more than that, you do not qualify for any type of government assistance
09:55 <@I-MOD> it really depends on where you live
09:56 <@I-MOD> in some places, you could get by with that, a good number of places? no
09:56 <@Lissa> most places you can't...Podunk USA...you might be able to.
09:56 <@I-MOD> if you have a house that's paid for and a car that's paid for, you don't have many expenses
09:57  * Lissa nods
09:57 <@polerin> I-MOD: It's not that you want to try.  The #1 cause of bankrupcy and homelessness is Medical issues
09:57 <@Lissa> but if you start in that situation, then add kids, etc...whew.
09:57 <@polerin> you get sick, and you don't have the money to pay for it on a long term, loose your job, and then your house
09:57 <@polerin> no car == no way to get a job, even if you're healthy enough for it
09:57 <@Lissa> then you die and leave your family with nothing....and the cycle continues
09:58 <@polerin> and all the sudden, no income
09:58 <@I-MOD> polerin, how does no car mean no job?
09:58 <@Lissa> rhia: is it hot in texas?
09:59 <@rhia> only 79 right now
09:59 <@Lissa> most of the time, when you have a job, you have to have reliable transportation
09:59 <@I-MOD> bikes tend to be reliable
10:00 <@I-MOD> bicycles
10:00 <@Lissa> heh...
10:00 <@Lissa> not where i live...you can't take a bike 50 miles
10:00 <@Shadow404> brimstone: if i open the search to at&t you would say 3g ipohone?
10:00 <@rhia> Lissa: supposed to be low 90's this week ... you coming back to the independent republic of big hair and hot air?
10:00 <@I-MOD> Lissa, agreed, but if you're limited to a bike, you can find a local job
10:00 <@brimstone> yeah, or if you could find an older iphone, hack that one and it'll work on t-mobile
10:00 <@polerin> I-MOD: in most US cities, there's no real mass transit :/
10:01 <@I-MOD> i know, and it sucks
10:01 <@Lissa> rhia: nada.  i was just reading the hogswallow this morning.  I tend to stay out of here mostly.  People scare me.
10:01 <@I-MOD> huntsville has very minor public transit and it's not mass transit by any means
10:01 <@Lissa> i'm here...but not here 99% of the tie
10:01 <@Lissa> time*
10:01  * polerin nods
10:02 <@polerin> I-MOD: rephrasing, No car limits the potential jobs severely
10:03 <@polerin> more and less so depending on your housing situation
10:03 <@ware> hahaha
10:03 <@ware> sitting in a meeting with my laptop
10:03 <@ware> just cracked some neighbors wep
10:03 <@I-MOD> again, i agree, but you can still get A job, maybe just not exactly the job you wanted
10:04 <@rhia> polerin: in the US, NYC is about the most foot friendly ... but we have nothing on most European cities for being carless
10:05 <@polerin> I-MOD: I understand.  We are talking about potentialy physically limited people too mind you (serious health issues being what started it)
10:05 <@polerin> rhia: Oh i know :(
10:05 <@rhia> the idea of, gasp, using public transit to get to work, go grocery shopping, etc just doesn't go over well in the land where Car is King
10:06 <@Lissa> rhia: I had a couple friends over last month from Europe...one is 20 and the other is 38....neither has a CLUE how to drive
10:06 <@polerin> hehe
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10:07 <@rhia> Lissa: yeah, cuz they don't Have to - imagine that
10:07  * Lissa nods
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10:08  * Lissa pounces dc0de 
10:09  * I-MOD trounces Lissa 
10:09 <@rhia> most big cities here don't have near enough decent bike routes/lanes to allow for safe commutes to work ... and public transit is far more often a joke than a truly viable option for anyone not working right off the main line
10:10 <@Shadow404> brimstone: got a link to the hacked iphone for tmobile?
10:10 <@polerin> yeah
10:10 <@brimstone> Shadow404: i think anysim is the program
10:11 <@brimstone> http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/15/anysim-is-here-open-source-gui-iphone-unlock-app/
10:11 <@Evilpig> alright need some help.  I am using backuppc on one of my boxes here trying to backup some stuff on another.  I have setup keys so it doesn't have to login.  if I goto a console and do an ssh box2 it connects right up.  when I try use it with rsync all I see in the log is the machine connect and disconnect immediately.  any ideas on where to start?
10:11 <@brimstone> env variables
10:11 <@I-MOD> in hsv, there are no bike lanes/routes.  here, cars, motorcycles, and bikes are all equal on the road iirc (and they all go in the same lanes)
10:12 <@rhia> a 3 mile bus trip here can be over 3 hrs long ... and if you're taking the train, you better need to be going somewhere directly off one of 4 roads
10:13 <@rhia> public transit has not even attempted to keep up with urban sprawl, let alone suburban sprawl, in the majority of the country
10:15 <@polerin> I-MOD: yeah, and trust me that's frightening.  I used to bike all over nashville where that was the situation in most places
10:15 <@polerin> I-MOD: I violated the law by riding on the sidewalk a good ammount of the time
10:15 <@rhia> bike riding in DFW is .... basically futile
10:15 <@polerin> ... riding on the street is frightening
10:15 <@I-MOD> yeah, i did that where there was sidewalk...
10:16 <@polerin> rhia: oh I bet I could do it :D
10:16 <@rhia> From June 8 to June 14, seven cyclists were injured or killed here
10:16 <@rhia> one week
10:16 <@polerin> but riding bikes for commutes over 10-15 miles is sorta futile
10:16 <@polerin> rhia: doesn't supprise me :/
10:17 <@rhia> and, yeah, in DFW, a lot of, if not most, commutes are over 10 miles
10:17 <@oddball> I would ride my bike to work if it wasn't for the fact that I'd need a shower once I get there during the summer.
10:17 <@rhia> bike trails here are nice, if  you're riding for recreation - but to commute?  not so much
10:17  * polerin nods
10:17 <@polerin> yeah we've got a few nice bike trails
10:18 <@polerin> Percey warner comes to mind
10:18 <@polerin> but that's not a lightweight trail, and definitively not for commute
10:18 <@Evilpig> oh that's retarded.  I found it
10:19 <@rhia> the trails meander along the river branches thru 'green land' ... not many businesses in dedicated green land areas <g>
10:19 <@Evilpig> I had to sudo the command as the backup user to accept the signature
10:20 <@brimstone> oh, i was assuming you were testing as the backup user
10:21 <@polerin> rhia: these trails zig zag up some fairly steep hills under the shade of trees
10:21 <@Evilpig> it's a user without a valid shell and I was being retarded
10:22 <@rhia> polerin: been following a lot of local DFW chatter about biking here ... they don't paint a pretty picture for cyclists
10:22  * polerin nods
10:22 <@rhia> but at $4 a gallon, more people are trying to find a way
10:22 <@polerin> that's ok...  we've found the solution.  Lissa's riding the storm out
10:23 <@polerin> (she just walked in, heard it on the radio and cranked it  ;)
10:23 <@rhia> hehe
10:23 <@Lissa> :D
10:23 <@Lissa> i can't help it...it's REO speedwagon
10:24 <@oddball> http://community.livejournal.com/guns/1690199.html?view=24111447#t24111447
10:24 <@oddball> gah! sorry
10:24 <@polerin> heh
10:25 <@rhia> from here to downtown, there is interstate, or you can ride on narrow roads with no shoulder crammed with SUV's etc avoiding the interstate, or you can route around to slightly wider roads and increase the 3 mile trip to 8 miles, and still have to take a few of the narrow streets and blind intersections
10:25 <@oddball> stupid putty and it's "right click = paste and sometimes enter"
10:25 <@Lissa> hehe...yeh...i do that a lot
10:25 <@rhia> or, you can hop on the train, then walk 2 to 3 miles to whereever you work
10:25 <@polerin> oddball: after I paste, I automaticaly look for a putty window now
10:26 <@polerin> then select two random chars
10:26 <@rhia> oddball: it's the "sometimes enter" part that gets me, hehe
10:26 <@polerin> ;p
10:27 <@oddball> yeah... if it was just "paste" I could delete it and be done.
10:28 <@oddball> I think it's because my clipboard sometimes picks up a breakline
10:28 <@rhia> and  (just a couple miles above uptown Dallas) to downtown is the easy bike/train commute ... here to where most jobs are? pfft ... k, i is done
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10:40 <@NotLarry> k, back
10:45 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: just in time.  Dolemite said you're fired
10:47 <@Lissa> has anyone ever had a computer that kinda skipped every 2 seconds?  video, sound, mouse movement, etc
10:48 <@rhia> Lissa: when i've overloaded the memory (which i have been known to do on occasion)
10:49 <@Lissa> well...i had some funk nasty malware on here and had to do a recovery...and now it's doing it..and it's on my fucking nerves
10:52 <@Lissa> i just want it to stop doing it...i try to move my mouse onto something and it winds up on the other side of what i was moving the mouse to
10:52 <@Dementia> or when my mouse goes bad
10:53 <@Lissa> it's doing it on my touchpad too
10:53 <@Lissa> and the sound is skipping at the exact same time...it's a 2 second interval.
10:53 <@Evilpig> watch the task manager to spot what is spiking the cpu
10:54 <@Evilpig> or check the event log to see if it is a disk event
10:54 <@polerin> Evilpig: nothing's spiking the task man
10:54 <@polerin> and it's also doing it with the ubuntu live cd
10:55 <@Evilpig> that would be hardware most likely then
10:55 <@Evilpig> overheating perhaps?
10:55 <@polerin> neg
10:56 <@polerin> at least, not due to heat levels, it may have been caused by heat issues over a long term
10:56 <@polerin> we let it stay off last night, and it was doing it as soon as it boots
10:56 <@Evilpig> memory?
10:56 <@Evilpig> that is a stretch but possible
10:57 <@polerin> mmph.  I'll have her check, but I'd expect thrown errors if that were it
10:57 <@polerin> it's just glitching every 2 seconds, then catching up
10:57 <@polerin> almost like something flooding it.
10:57 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  you could go intot he bios and disable the speedstep stuff.  if it thinks its on battery or something it could be trying to slow the processor which would look like that
10:58 <@Evilpig> or if it was overheating or thought it was it can also slow the cpu
10:58 <@polerin> turned off the speedstep
10:58 <@polerin> and it's not just in high performance apps
10:58 <@polerin> it's literally just mousing around with 2 percent cpu usage
11:00 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: I know, I've been on the phone with him half the morning about it.
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11:01 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: Speaking of which, I need you to come to Nashville about 2am on Friday morning...
11:03 <@polerin> I'm not seeing any thing interesting in the event log
11:10 <@NotLarry> What time is the mammoth cave tour?
11:13 <@rattle> Oh my god this is funny..
11:13 <@rattle> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcQ7RkyBoBc
11:15 <@shadowmoss> NL:  I took care of the issue you were supposed to remind me of
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11:31 <@Mirage> shadowmoss: did you not remember to remind him to remind you what he should remind you of?
11:32 <@Mirage> NotLarry: I ordered a new exhaust for the bike..finally found OEM pipes, $250 + $35 shipping.
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11:37 <@Mirage> NotLarry: I think Dolemite said that it was the Noon tour
11:49 <@Feltenix> there is something undeniably creepy about these http://www.mcphee.com/items/11850.html
11:53 <@rhia> great gifts, what guy doesn't like getting a little head?
11:53 <@Feltenix> indeed
12:00 <@Corydon76-dig> What guy doesn't enjoy watching another guy suck on a head?
12:03 <@Shadow404> ware: please give status report and rfo for server outage!
12:03 <@ware> i haz no idea.
12:03 <@ware> called DC ops and they have no eta on resolution
12:03 <@ware> its out of my hands til i get there tonight
12:05 <@Shadow404> no remote hands!
12:05 <@Shadow404> wtf
12:08 <@ware> your mom is working remote, but both of her hands are busy
12:08 <@ware> one the phone with me
12:08 <@ware> on*
12:08 <@ware> one hand on the phone
12:08 <@ware> GUESS WHERE THE OTHER ONE IS
12:08 <@ware> HAHAHAHA LUZLUZULZLUZLULZ ROFLCOPTER SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI
12:16 <@Shadow404> ventrillo
12:16 <@Shadow404> lawl
12:31 <@ware> http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/07/01/hospital.death.ap/index.html?eref=rss_us
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12:47 <@Shadow404> lawl
12:47 <@coil> ugh
13:03 <@rattle> USA is NUMBER ONE.  W0000h000!!
13:03 <@rattle> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080701160706.4pl3ba3e&show_article=1
13:09 <@Shadow404> wtf is with cocaine, ffs
13:10 <@Evilpig> people like it?
13:11 <@Shadow404> yeah, its evil
13:11 <@Shadow404> the people i know theat use it, are always angry
13:11 <@Evilpig> well so am I.  but i'm not illegal yet
13:11 <@Shadow404> heh
13:11 <@Shadow404> just smoke a j and be happy
13:11 <@Shadow404> ffs
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13:15 <@coil> lol
13:19 <@Shadow404> wtf?
13:19 <@Shadow404> perfect example
13:19 <@Shadow404> if catonic was smoking a j just then, that wouldn't of happened
13:19 <@coil> my roommate is moving out
13:19 <@Shadow404> if he wa snorting cocaine, then he would of kicked the room
13:19 <@coil> he took the intetrnet with him
13:19 <@Shadow404> haha
13:20 <@Shadow404> so we dont have to see you on irc anymore
13:20 <@Shadow404> yeah!
13:20 <@coil> neighbors have wireless
13:20 <@coil> hence why im on
13:20  * Shadow404 makes note to tell neighbors
13:21 <@Shadow404> wtf, is awknet?
13:21  * coil farts on Shadow404 
13:22 <@Catonic> if I was smoking a j, I would have sat down next to ware and commisserated with him. If I was doing cocaine, I would have killed in him a drug-fueled rage.
13:22 <@coil> what did ware do though?
13:22 <@Catonic> Oh, he's my bottom bitch.
13:23 <@Shadow404> lawl
13:23 <@Shadow404> so now we know
13:24 <@Shadow404> it all makes sense now
13:24 <@Catonic> Shadow404: whatever it take you to get through your day.
13:25 <@Catonic> For me, it's watching cute girls dance and listening to english pop and club music, while making a lame attempt at dancing in my cube.
13:25 <@Shadow404> lawl
13:25 <@Shadow404> for me its watching pron cause its part of your job
13:26 <@brimstone> what's that say about scotchick?
13:27 <@coil> Temporary Hold Information: A temporary hold has been placed on funds that were returned to your account because you used Instant Transfer to fund the original payment. The funds from this payment cannot be released until they have arrived from your bank account, which usually takes 3-4 business days.
13:27 <@Shadow404> scotchick is better than pron
13:27 <@coil> wtf paypal
13:27 <@coil> you dickhead
13:27 <@Shadow404> lawl, you fail
13:28 <@coil> wtf did i do
13:28 <@Shadow404> havent died yet
13:28 <@Catonic> pussy > hand, usually.
13:28 <@Shadow404> question: what does carpal tunnel feel like?
13:28 <@coil> Catonic: have you gotten laid yet?
13:29 <@coil> Shadow404: piad
13:29 <@coil> pian
13:29 <@coil> pain
13:29 <@Shadow404> where exactly?
13:29 <@Catonic> coil: that's none of your fucking business.
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13:35 <@coil> Shadow404: wrists?
13:35 <@coil> in the joints
13:35 <@polerin> Shadow404: pain in the lower part of the wrists
13:35 <@coil> oh sorry my bad polerin thanks for correcting me so much
13:35 <@polerin> it's an inflamation of the tendons that connect the forearm muscles to the hand
13:37 <@Shadow404> i got this inflammed burning sensation in my hand, between the thumb and first finger fro the last 2 hours
13:37 <@Shadow404> not sure what it is
13:37 <@Catonic> you got clap in your hand.
13:38 <@Shadow404> er, its the tendon for my thumb
13:38 <@coil> quit jerkignn off at work then
13:38 <@Shadow404> i cant help it, im bored
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13:38 <@Shadow404> nah, thats not the cause
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13:38 <@coil> then lrn2diaf
13:38 <@Shadow404> only thing i can think of is i strained it last night...
13:40 <@Shadow404> but man, its painful to type
13:41 <@Catonic> lrn2tlkdef
13:42 <@coil> my roommate is almost totally out
13:42 <@coil> im gonna miss him...not
13:42 <@brimstone> what about his cats?
13:42 <@Shadow404> probably tendonitis
13:42 <@coil> they aren't his cats
13:42 <@Catonic> Shadow404: hehe. I know what you mean. Nothing like waking up, jumping in the shower and immediately jumping out because you've just discovered you have rugburn on your ass.
13:42 <@Shadow404> Catonic: lawl, yeah
13:42 <@Shadow404> like that
13:44 <@coil> no
13:45 <@Catonic> "Ok, my wrist/leg/knee hurts, but -when- did I hurt it? ... and how?"
13:47 <@coil> by diaf Shadow404
13:53 <@Shadow404> dc0de: dialing in now
13:54 <@coil> dialup?
13:54 <@Shadow404> lawl
13:55 <@Catonic> my nips are rock hard right now.
13:55 <@coil> how do i linux?
13:55 <@Shadow404> why?
13:55 <@Shadow404> Catonic: just find a picture of Corydon76-dig?
13:55 <@coil> load error
13:55 <@coil> that's a new one
13:56 <@Catonic> i am freezing my ass off.
13:56 <@coil> must be nice
13:56 <@coil> cuz it's hot as shit here
13:56 <@coil> and it doesn't help that they keep going in and out of the door
13:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: are you saying my pic softens your nipples?
14:05 <@Shadow404> frankly, it does nothing for me
14:07 <@Catonic> I frankly expected a gay man to have a better sense of style than a straight man
14:07 <@Catonic> kinda like flaming gay al.
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14:14 <@coil> gtfo
14:15 <@coil> brimstone: chao down?
14:15 <@coil> ware: phneak down?
14:16 <@Shadow404> yes
14:16 <@Shadow404> ive been pushing for an rfo and resolution
14:16 <@Shadow404> but ware has not gotten back to me
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14:28 <@coil> Shadow404: stfu didaf
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14:36 <@Mirage> http://eddirt.frozenreality.co.uk/index.php?id=480
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14:54 <@Mirage> http://eu.blizzard.com/diablo3/
14:56 <@Evilpig> is the euro site different?
15:03 <@Shadow404> so when it comes to crackberry, what is the best version out right now?
15:05 <@Evilpig> the sales guys here have the bold one, I think
15:05 <@Evilpig> the sexretary has the pearl
15:05 <@Evilpig> both of them are a pain to work on
15:07 <@Shadow404> yeah, well i need a new phone that works with gps
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15:14 <@Evilpig> I wish I could make my phone play nicely with my gps.  but it's a no go
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15:27 <@sdodson> ware: what happened?1
15:28 <@Shadow404> ive been pushing for an rfo and resolution
15:28 <@Shadow404> but ware has not gotten back to me
15:29 <@Shadow404> im seeing moving things to his shit, eally made it stable
15:29 <@sdodson> Shadow404: you're so hardcore
15:29 <@sdodson> Shadow404: your big NOC words make me excited
15:29 <@sdodson> tell us more
15:30 <@Shadow404> come sit in my big chair and ill tell you all sorts of big words
15:31 <@Shadow404> heh, lets just move the ircd to my servers
15:31 <@Shadow404> or have a dns slave point to my servers when his goes down
15:32 <@Evilpig> the two of you playing as irc ops is frightening
15:33 <@Shadow404> heh, not playing atm, since the uptime has sucked since conception
15:33 <@Evilpig> my uptime looks like shit right now from all the moving of equipment i've done lately
15:34 <@Shadow404> my box runningg web/weather/video streams has better uptime
15:34 <@Shadow404> just looked at it and it shows 99.2% uptime since jan 1st, 2008
15:35 <@Shadow404> and that was when the box crashed while i was on vacation
15:35 <@Shadow404> or power cuts
15:35 <@Shadow404> cause the box isnt on a ups yet
15:35 <@Evilpig> none of the seeds for my perfertdisk.rar are online damnit
15:37 <@Evilpig> should I be shocked to see a gentoo system up for more thana day?
15:37 <@Evilpig> http://bigmichi1.dyndns.org/phpsysinfo-dev/index.php?disp=dynamic
15:38 <@Shadow404> why o why would anyone use a shity dns name liek they when they offer so many more choices
15:41 <@Shadow404> ???
15:41 <@Shadow404> live voltage 228v
15:42 <@Shadow404> heh, tmobile in denmark
15:42 <@Shadow404> nice
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16:19 <@sdodson> Evilpig: did you figure out whatever it was you asked me about xen?
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16:42 <@dc0de> later all.
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16:56 <@Evilpig> yes I think
16:57 <@Evilpig> anyone use apcupsd ?  or know if you can easily setup multiple ups's to monitor or just one?
17:15 <@brimstone> i use apcupsd, but it only watches one
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17:25 <@ware> Shadow404: the power keeps turning off at the apartment now
17:25 <@ware> lol
17:27 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  I'd like to have one machine monitor all the UPSs.  guess I will just have to use powerchute
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17:35 <@sdodson> nut should do that
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17:57 <@Evilpig> hrmm. nut you say. looking into that now
17:59 <@aestetix> who wants a hot dog
18:00 <@Evilpig> dodson does that have a web interface out or just command line stuff?
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18:17 <@ware> AstralSin: ping
18:40 <@brimstone> sweet! my drives are under warrenty still!
18:46 <@Feltenix> gonna get some new ones?
18:47 <@brimstone> that's the plan
18:47 <@brimstone> i got a 400 and a 750 i'm gonna try to RMA
18:48 <@sdodson> Evilpig: i'm pretty sure it's command line
18:48 <@sdodson> brimstone: man how you get such big drives?
18:48  * brimstone paid the man :(
18:49 <@sdodson> brimstone: gimme a raise
18:49 <@brimstone> git ur own raize
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19:13 < AstralSin> i fuckin hate this job
19:14 < AstralSin> are all enterprise level programs as shitty as the one i work on?
19:17 <@ware> AstralSin: rofl
19:17 < AstralSin> this peice of shit that's training us on this crap program made me clean his god damn keyboard today
19:17 < AstralSin> i nearly hit him in the face with it
19:18 <@ware> anyone have tates number
19:18 <@ware> HAHAHA
19:18 <@ware> thats like telling somone to shine your shoes
19:18 <@ware> err boots*
19:18 <@ware> you near nashville?
19:18 < AstralSin> im out of that shithole as soon as i can find a new job
19:18 < AstralSin> not at the moment, no
19:19 <@ware> ahh
19:19 < AstralSin> i don't drive anyway, i carpool
19:19 <@ware> i found some apt's on harding that im going to look at on thursday
19:19 <@ware> im hanging out @ jj's
19:19 < AstralSin> im not gonna commit to getting an apartment until i figure out what my job situation is gonna be
19:21 < AstralSin> and i'm gonna try to take my ccna with my first paycheck, just don't know if i'll be able to cram that much in time
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19:23 <@ware> oh cool, one of the clients here at the cafe has port 88 open, so i goto it in a browser and it prompts me to d/l t0jpm7fu.exe
19:23 <@ware> spaywarez
19:25 < AstralSin> lol
19:27 <@ware> oh duh lol.
19:28 <@ware> sent a msg to the hchq list but the server
19:29 <@ware> is downed
19:29 <@ware> no powah
19:29 <@brimstone> lame
19:30  * ware lames on brimstones pants
19:30 <@ware> whats lame is that you ended up in HSV and not nashville!
19:30 <@ware> WITH YOUR TRUE LOVE....
19:30 <@ware> COUNTRY MUSIC!
19:31 <@ware> oh nvm
19:31 <@ware> the email went thru hehe
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20:47 <@I-MOD> brimstone, thursday at 11:00
20:47 <@I-MOD> gah
20:48  * I-MOD goes to a different channel
21:06 <@sdodson> http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/07/camphone.jpg LG innovates again
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21:16 < wolfen_at_max> ok so call me a noob buts i just started using GnuPG pgp did a few test messages all good but what mail program do you guys recomend? im running in on xp mostly and some on debian
21:23 <@sdodson> wolfen_at_max: What mail program do you like?
21:24 < wolfen_at_max> well thats the thing i don't use one. im looking at thunderbird or enigmail
21:25 <@sdodson> I use thunderbird with enigmail.
21:25 <@sdodson> enigmail is a plugin for thunderbird.
21:25 < wolfen_at_max> ok
21:26 < wolfen_at_max> thanks
21:26 <@sdodson> wolfen_at_max: what's your key?
21:27 < wolfen_at_max> lol well its one hell of a long one i set it to max not knowing what i was doing and it's like half a page long
21:28 <@sdodson> 0xCA392159 is mine
21:28 <@sdodson> try sending me a message, sdodson@sdodson.com
21:29 < wolfen_at_max> ok
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21:35 <@GodFix> sweet.... http://www.greenfairy.org/product.php?productid=2&cat=1&page=1
21:40 <@sdodson> I had some absinthe the other day, boring
21:40 <@GodFix> too bad
21:40 <@GodFix> I was thinking about doing 6-8 shots of it
21:40 <@sdodson> it had the spoon and sugar coobs though
21:40 <@sdodson> oh, this was with water
21:42 <@I-MOD> haha, i know someone who had a half shot of absinthe, and promptly speedwalked elsewhere to barf his guts out for 10 minutes
21:42 <@I-MOD> it was great
21:42 <@I-MOD> i need to do that to him again
21:42 <@GodFix> i remember hearing about it years before Moulin Rouge
21:42 <@I-MOD> as he's kind of a dick
21:43 <@GodFix> some indie movie where a guy has epilepsy and goes on absinthe binges
21:43 <@GodFix> and commits murder in a drunken epileptic state
21:43 <@sdodson> sounds like fun
21:46 <@GodFix> Deceiver w/ Tim Roth... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119527/
21:46 < wolfen_at_max> sdodson u have mail see if i did it right :)
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21:51 < wolfen_at_max> godfix have you ordered from them. my problem is i never know if its the real deal
21:51 <@sdodson> wolfen_at_max: well, you encrypted it with a key I no longer have
21:52 < wolfen_at_max> well shit ok what server do i need to look it up on?
21:54 <@sdodson> http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xCA392159
21:58 <@brimstone> it's sdodson!
21:58 <@sdodson> it's meeee mario!
22:00 <@sdodson> you can trust me because brimstone trusts me!
22:01 <@ware> hehehe
22:01 <@ware> did you know ettercap can spoof ssh / ssl connections?
22:01 <@ware> ;)
22:02 <@brimstone> yep
22:02 < wolfen_at_max> sdodson mit keeps giving me a page load error ive tried IE and fireforx no go for both so i give up just email me the key :(
22:04 <@brimstone> i'm using evolution now, with gpg
22:04 <@brimstone> fyi
22:04 <@brimstone> asdf
22:11 <@ware> lol
22:11 <@ware> man if i was at a lan cafe
22:11 <@ware> and i saw someones screen popping up images of what i was looking at
22:11 <@sdodson> wouldn't you get the normal errors?
22:11 <@ware> i would probably turn my laptop off
22:11 <@ware> ya know?
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22:11 <@sdodson> at the meetings here one of the guys sniffed the coffee shop attendant's wifi
22:12 <@sdodson> he went up and asked her if she was going to a party she was talking about on aim and she didn't even notice
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22:47 <@ware> wee.
22:49 <@sdodson> ware: hi
22:49 <@ware> sdodson: y0
22:50 <@sdodson> whens our servah back?
22:50 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZmO_FybHg
22:53 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWq08qdbL6w
22:53 < eryc> yea
22:53 < eryc> you luv it!
22:54 <@ware> sdodson: power went out at the house
22:54 <@ware> or flickered
22:54 <@ware> and it went of
22:54 <@ware> off*
22:54 <@ware> i dunno wtf is up with that
22:54 <@sdodson> uh oh, where will Shadow404 bitch about SkyDog_ at then?
22:55 < eryc> ware: what's new?
22:56 < eryc> sdodson: sup
22:56 <@SkyDog_> The little cunt bitches about me?
22:56 <@sdodson> nah, i kid
22:57 < eryc> i do tho
22:57 <@sdodson> He just yearns for the se2600 of yore
22:57  * eryc bitchslaps SkyDog
22:57 <@ware> eryc: just haxn
22:57 < eryc> yea when i was in your hood
22:57 < eryc> it was all like
22:57 <@ware> not reading someone elses vanderbilt email
22:58 < eryc> nwa straight outa computin
22:58 <@SkyDog_> eryc: Sit down BOY. :)
22:58 < eryc> now is just, oh i kissed a girl and i liked it
22:58 <@sdodson> eryc: is jumpstart hard?
22:59 < eryc> not with JEt
22:59 <@SkyDog_> ware: Serious? Vandy Candy email?
22:59 < eryc> aint no candy at vandy
22:59 <@ware> SkyDog_: keyword *NOT* reading vandy email
22:59 <@ware> :D
22:59 <@SkyDog_> ah.
22:59 <@SkyDog_> Would not piss me off, ya know.
22:59 < eryc> http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/jet/
23:00 < eryc> fp
23:00 <@ware> and im definitely NOT reading someones gmail
23:00 <@ware> rofl
23:00 <@sdodson> cowrashes muh browzah
23:01 <@sdodson> java must be screwed up, and heaven forbid sun publish a web page that doesn't require a fucking java plugin
23:01 < eryc> w6r2s f6r 04ah
23:02 < eryc> numlock ftw
23:03 < eryc> no java here
23:03 < eryc> just a feedback javascript hoverbox
23:03 <@sdodson> ware: you playing that japanese game?
23:03 < eryc> ?
23:03 < eryc> pakrat?
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23:07 < eryc> sdodson: http://wikis.sun.com/display/JET/Home
23:22 <@ware> sdodson: nerp
23:22 <@ware> didnt d/l it
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23:39 <@maco> doh i just realized switching nicks un-@-ed me
23:40 <@SkyDog_> http://blog.hackerconsortium.com/index.php
23:40 <@maco> come on internets...you can do it...just gotta download one photo....
23:41 <@maco> this wifi is slow
23:42 <@SkyDog_> Steal a better one.
23:42 <@maco> it's the school wifi
23:42 <@maco> i can sit out in the court yard where it's nice and cool and use it without breaking anything
23:43 <@maco> and trust me, if i went home, there isn't better
23:43 <@maco> there are 2 open networks with 80% packet loss and the secured ones never have enough traffic to crack the wep
23:50 <@coil> hi
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