--- Log opened Wed Jun 18 00:00:11 2008
--- Day changed Wed Jun 18 2008
00:00 <@sdodson> coil: virus!
00:00 <@coil> wats an opfor?
00:00 <@coil> sdodson: virus from mozilla.org?
00:00 <@I-MOD> doing this *kickbans coil*
00:00 <@sdodson> Hey, anyone think that bush proposing to drill for oil is just a ploy to provide mccain a point to differ from bush on so it doesn't look like just another term for bush?
00:02 <@I-MOD> lol
00:03 <@sdodson> then again, the suv sheep may actually bite on destroying our coast lines in favor of cheaper oil
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00:35 <@coil> no
00:40 < dasunt> sdodson: Isn't it great?
00:40 < dasunt> Expensive oil == environmental incentive to find another resource.
00:40 < dasunt> Sooner or later, we'll get to the point of making synthetic liquid hydrocarbons, I suspect.
00:40 < dasunt> And hopefully kill urban sprawl.
00:45 <@coil> FUCK
00:46 <@coil> my computer is failing memtest
00:46 <@coil> what the fuck
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01:00 < dasunt> coil: Reseat the memory?
01:00 <@coil> ill try that in a min
01:01 <@coil> no wonder all my files were getting corrupted
01:01  * coil crosses his fingers, plz boot ubuntu
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01:02 <@coil> nope it stalled again
01:02 <@coil> paused on booting
01:08 < dasunt> Bad power supply?
01:09 < dasunt> Bulging caps on the motherboard?
01:09 < dasunt> Bad (dare I say it) memory causing memtester to error?  :p
01:10 <@coil> yeah i know it's probably bad ram
01:10 <@coil> cuz i touched it
01:10 <@coil> with out a strap and shit
01:12 < dasunt> I haven't seen that cause many problems.
01:12 < dasunt> Especially not if you touch a ground beforehand.
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01:27 <@coil> well i do touch it
01:27 <@coil> so should i like switch the ram spots
01:27 <@coil> damn, that shit LOCKED UP
03:52 <@coil> and now it's fine
03:52 <@coil> ....
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06:43 <@Shadow404> mawning everyone
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08:03 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:19  * brimstone wants his MTV
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08:45 <@ware> weee
08:45 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch!
08:45 <@ware> Dolemite: i ping ya last night on WoW
08:45 <@Dolemite> WTF was up with logging on for 20 seconds?
08:45 <@ware> put xp on my emachine
08:45 <@mtown_nerd> haha...they still have that problem?   ><
08:45 <@Shadow404> omg, im playng wow now
08:45 <@ware> but i couldnt get sound working
08:45 <@Shadow404> scotchick actually got me back into it
08:46 < AstralSin> i got that job in franklin
08:46 < AstralSin> or i'll be getting an offer later this morning, rather
08:47 <@oddball> gratz
08:47 < AstralSin> danke
08:48 <@Dolemite> AstralSin : What company?
08:48 < AstralSin> im not taking it unless they offer me at least $14
08:48 < AstralSin> Dialogic Communications Corporation
08:48 <@ware> woot
08:48 <@Dolemite> ah, I know who they are
08:48 <@ware> DCC!
08:48 < AstralSin> yeah
08:49 <@Dolemite> we looked at possibly using them for emergency notifications at one point
08:49 < AstralSin> taking fucking tech support calls from people frantically trying to evacuate people and shiut
08:49 < AstralSin> shit*
08:49 <@ware> rofl
08:49 <@ware> thats going to suck
08:49 < AstralSin> "you're all fucked, kiss your ass and say goodbye!"
08:49 <@ware> 'wow that sucks.' *click*
08:50 < AstralSin> lol
08:50 <@mtown_nerd> hehe
08:50 <@ware> 'run faster. fire is hot ya know.' *click*
08:52 <@mtown_nerd> I don't suppose it's too stupid to ask if there are any Win admins in here?  :o
08:53 < AstralSin> nope, only DOS admins
08:53 <@ware> We need Jay to install Randy.s Blueberry.
08:53 <@ware> Thanks,
08:53 <@ware> Teri
08:53 <@ware> rofl
08:53 <@ware> apparently im a gardener now too
08:53 <@mtown_nerd> hehe
08:53 <@mtown_nerd> She's been living under a rock for a while.  I don't think "Blueberry" has been used ....  like...forever...  :x
08:53 <@mtown_nerd> Since RIM first got started, as far as I know.
08:58 < AstralSin> brb
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09:02  * brimstone rides his bike with no handlebars
09:04 <@dc0de> mr0nin all
09:04 <@polerin> morning dc0de
09:04  * dc0de passes a cup of coffee to polerin
09:04 <@dc0de> hey there.
09:09 <@mtown_nerd> Mornin, dc0de
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09:21 <@ware> http://www.hellolinda.com/uploaded_images/DSCN2471-772336.JPG
09:21 <@ware> spider cat, spider cat, doing whatever a spider cat does!
09:21 <@dc0de> hey mtown_nerd
09:22 < AstralSin> $16/hr was the offer DCC gave me
09:22 < AstralSin> cant turn that down
09:22 <@ware> awesome!
09:23 <@Corydon76-dig> <jsmith> I wonder why they don't have "sedation law" like they have "sedation dentistry"
09:23 <@mtown_nerd> Grats, AstralSin :D
09:23 < AstralSin> danke
09:23 <@mtown_nerd> Help Desk?  Or .. ?
09:23 < AstralSin> yeah
09:23 <@mtown_nerd> Suhweet! :)
09:23 <@mtown_nerd> I wish I'd made that much on the last Help Desk I was on.  lol  >_<
09:24 <@ware> yeah i worked at 12/hr for almost 3 years
09:24 <@ware> gettin jipd
09:24 <@mtown_nerd> That's what I did.  :x
09:24 <@mtown_nerd> it wuz teh suq
09:24 <@ware> but like SkyDog_ says, they are paying me based on what im willing to work for
09:24 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you realize that that's spelled 'gypped' and is actually a racial slur, right?
09:24 <@ware> jip'd has teh same meaning but without the racial slur
09:24 <@brimstone> if you consider gypsies a race
09:25 <@ware> also true
09:25 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: they are
09:25 <@mtown_nerd> lol
09:25 <@mtown_nerd> Touche
09:25 <@mtown_nerd> :D
09:25 <@ware> so you have have black AND white gypsies?!
09:25 <@brimstone> no, blacks and whites AND gypsies
09:25 <@ware> i thought they were like hippies + pirates
09:25 <@ware> haha
09:25 <@mtown_nerd> No..theyr'e not nearly cool enough to be half pirates
09:26 <@ware> hippies + butt pirates
09:26 <@mtown_nerd> If they're half pirates, where are their parrots?  Or cuffed boots?  Hmm?
09:26 <@Corydon76-dig> The Travelers, as they prefer to be called, come from a particular mix of Middle Eastern and Spanish heritage
09:26 <@mtown_nerd> They would at least have ONE cuffed boot on if they were half pirate...and I haven't seen any cuff-boot-wearin' people laying bad driveways recently
09:26 <@ware> all i know is Brad Pitt and the pikies would would any gyps ass
09:27 <@ware> pikies > pirates > gypsies
09:27 <@ware> EOD
09:27 <@mtown_nerd> up... no...  pirates > *
09:27 <@ware> pikies > ninjas > pirates > gypsies
09:27 <@mtown_nerd> OH, see...now...this is where I have you assassinated
09:27  * ware calls on his ninjas
09:27  * mtown_nerd calls on his pirates
09:27 <@ware> oh hai u alrdy ded
09:28 <@ware> wif ninja starz thnx4playin
09:28 <@mtown_nerd> lol
09:28  * dc0de calls in a nuke.
09:28  * Corydon76-dig calls on his butt pirates
09:28  * mtown_nerd eavdes
09:28  * mtown_nerd ...and evades, too
09:28  * dc0de wins!
09:28 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: doubt you'd get any further in here discussing the Basque
09:28  * ware disconnects
09:28 <@dc0de> hey rhia
09:28 <@mtown_nerd> Sorry, dc0de... I made my Reflex save
09:28 <@mtown_nerd> :P
09:28  * dc0de points at rhia and screams *LURQUER*
09:29 <@dc0de> mtown_nerd: nice...
09:29 <@dc0de> but the radiation makes your penis fall off
09:29 <@mtown_nerd> hrmm...
09:29 <@mtown_nerd> Indeed :[
09:29 <@Corydon76-dig> unixfag will be rather chagrined to hear that
09:29  * rhia turns on her hearing aids ... "Eh?"
09:29 <@mtown_nerd> High Dex.... no so high Con.  :[
09:30 <@mtown_nerd> OF course, I guess if I *were* a D&D char, I'd def. have more Con than Dex.  Probably be ....   Con, Str, Wis
09:30 <@mtown_nerd> With average Dex, and *maybe* a +1 Int...  and probably a +1 Cha
09:30  * mtown_nerd ponders
09:31  * brimstone has Con, Str, Wis, Dex, Cha AND Int!
09:31 <@mtown_nerd> v0v
09:31 <@mtown_nerd> lol
09:31 <@mtown_nerd> I'm talking high values,.  :P
09:31 <@brimstone> i have 1000 in all of them
09:32 <@mtown_nerd> Oh yeah!?  Well... I've got ... +1000 * Infinity +1 in, all of 'em, and I have a SECRET stat called Awesome, which I have, like, 3.78 bajillion in
09:32 <@mtown_nerd> So...neener!
09:32 <@Corydon76-dig> What about Sex?  Do you have Sex?
09:32 <@GodFix> Sex is like AC
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09:33 <@brimstone> doesn't work outside the trailer?
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09:33 <@GodFix> no, the lower the number the better
09:34 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah...that would be ... like....  Dex+D6?  Unless you have the "But you make up for it..." feat, in which case you use your Str modifier instead of Dex
09:34 <@GodFix> in D&D, the less sex you have, the greater you chance of not getting hunter down by a pissed off bar wench
09:34 <@mtown_nerd> (or whichever's highest)
09:34 <@brimstone> back in my day, all we had were d6 dice
09:34 <@mtown_nerd> hehe
09:34 <@Shadow404> ware: you social whore
09:34 <@mtown_nerd> I've been playing Mordheim here lately...and it's all D6.
09:35 <@brimstone> i'm more of a yatzee fan myself
09:35 <@mtown_nerd> haha
09:35 <@Shadow404> minesweeper for me
09:35  * brimstone throws a d20 at Shadow404
09:35 <@brimstone> get some culture!
09:35  * mtown_nerd likes moving his Orcs around on a battlefield and ...failing to roll any higher than a 3, unquestionably ending any campaign he attempts against enemy players.
09:35 <@mtown_nerd> :[
09:36  * mtown_nerd wonders if he's the only pseudo-tabletop player here ... ?
09:36 <@mtown_nerd> er... I guess...it would be more accurate to say "tabletop pseudo-player"
09:36 <@brimstone> the rest are idling, playing tabletops
09:36 <@mtown_nerd> lol
09:37 <@oddball> I have two regularly scheduled dice chucking games going on right now, if that counts
09:38 <@oddball> My D7D game will probably switch to 4th ed soon, and I just started a Savage Worlds game.
09:38 <@oddball> s/D7D/D&D
09:38  * brimstone plays D8D
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09:42 <@mtown_nerd> Cool.   I haven't played an actual RPG in a while.  Been on the tabletop strat games...mostly Mordheim (a Warhammer derivative)
09:43 <@oddball> I ran some table top games a Phreaknic for a couple years, but there wasn't enough interest to continue.
09:43 <@mtown_nerd> AWw :[
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09:44 <@mtown_nerd> i'm only just recently getting into it.  It's hard to get completely submerged in it simply because of my schedule and total lack of time management skills
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09:45 <@oddball> One easy way to try it out is going to a scifi con.  Where you live?
09:46 <@mtown_nerd> Memphis :[
09:46 <@sdodson> hi
09:46 <@sdodson> mtown_nerd: what do you do?
09:46 <@sdodson> like profession
09:47 <@mtown_nerd> IT; Desktop Support at the moment.  Despite my 'druthers, it's where most of my skillset lies.
09:47 <@oddball> Well, it's already happened this year, but MidSouthCon is one of the better cons in the country, and it's in your backyard.
09:47 <@mtown_nerd> orly? :o
09:48 <@mtown_nerd> I didn't realize it was that good.  lol
09:48 <@sdodson> http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM see comments
09:48 <@mtown_nerd> They hosted the computer gaming organization with which I was affiliated for a long while a couple of times...but I enver ventured beyond our LAN room.
09:48 <@oddball> Hypericon is in Nashville weekend after next, and there's always the insanity that is Dragoncon in Atlanta.
09:48 <@mtown_nerd> yeah... I didn't realize DC was already coming up again.  >_<
09:49 <@mtown_nerd> That means that unixfag and I have officially been together for almost over a year now.  :X     craaaaayzeh!
09:49 <@mtown_nerd> Time flies.  heh
09:49 <@brimstone> so does fruit
09:49 <@mtown_nerd> And marshes
09:49 <@oddball> Yeah, MidSouthCon has managed to keep the cool laidback atmosphere of a small con, but is big enough to afford/attract big names. (They had Terry Pratchett a couple years ago for instance)
09:49  * sdodson swats at brimstone 
09:49  * brimstone dodges like a banana
09:50 <@sdodson> RING RING
09:50 <@mtown_nerd> BOO BOOPY DOOPY DOOP
09:50 < AstralSin> hm
09:51 < AstralSin> my laptop hard drive is clicking
09:51 <@mtown_nerd> D:
09:51 <@mtown_nerd> That's never a good thing
09:51 <@sdodson> does it have a decent rhythm though?
09:52 <@mtown_nerd> heh
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09:52 <@mtown_nerd> Anyone here have any personal experience with Windows IT Pro.com?  And their site subscription?  It's $50...wondering if it's any good.
09:52 <@mtown_nerd> :o
09:53 <@dc0de> mtown_nerd: used it years ago... wouldn't know about today.
09:54 <@mtown_nerd> I've read their publicly available articles and liked them a lot ...
09:54 <@mtown_nerd> But ... $50 just seems kinda' high for a 1yr web sub...
09:55 < AstralSin> i wouldn't pay it
09:55 <@Shadow404> thats good pot money
09:55 <@dc0de> mtown_nerd: I never found anything in there that I couldn't have found via Technet or Google, with a little digging.
09:56 <@dc0de> Pot? pffft, that's for kiddies.  Be a man, freebase NaSO4
09:56 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah, no.  :P
09:56 <@Shadow404> heh
09:56 < AstralSin> mtown_nerd: are you mcp certified?
09:57 <@Shadow404> i think watching tracking information just makes you more anxious
09:57 < AstralSin> i think you get a discount on that if you login to the mcp website
09:57 <@mtown_nerd> hrmm
09:57 <@mtown_nerd> I need to finish studying for those MS tests.  ~_~
09:57 <@oddball> Shadow404: yeah, a few folks laughed at me while I was watching the tracking info for my eee PC
09:57 <@mtown_nerd> I was for a while using some O'Rieilly books...   and it's Windows, honestly, so it's not difficult...  just a matter of staying focused enough to get it done.
09:58 < AstralSin> the tests have changed now, they're supposedly more difficult
09:58 < AstralSin> and i don't know whats good to study for them, i need to do my 70-290 and 70-291 and get my MCSA
09:58 <@oddball> "what do you mean there's no info beyond it was checked in in Chicago 2 days ago?!"
09:59 < AstralSin> of course, you do get 2 chances to take the test now if you do that second shot offer deal
10:00 < AstralSin> bah nm
10:00 < AstralSin> that has expired
10:00 <@mtown_nerd> haha
10:00 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah... I need to just hunker down and get it done
10:01 <@mtown_nerd> I just have a hard time staying on track with it and remembering things to which I have no real-world access....so I can read all day along about ACtive Directory design, impelementatino, and management....but if I'm not doing it, I have a hard time visualizing and connecting the dots.  heh
10:01  * mtown_nerd is a slave to context
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10:03 <@mtown_nerd> What study resources do you use, AstralSin?
10:04 <@sdodson> internet!
10:04 < AstralSin> in the past i've coupled a good book with practice questions from examcollection.com
10:05 < AstralSin> but now those practice tests are gonna be fairly useless as the question pool is much larger
10:05 < AstralSin> im still gonna use em though
10:05 < AstralSin> microsoft tests are the worst because the questions are so long and drawn out and designed to confuse you
10:05 < AstralSin> comptia is easy, eccouncil is fuckin hard because you really gotta know your shit
10:06 < AstralSin> lpi was pretty easy
10:06 <@mtown_nerd> Hrmm...not familiar with ECouncil or LPI, I don't think. :x
10:06  * mtown_nerd just has COmpTIA
10:06 < AstralSin> eccouncil == certified ethical hacker
10:06 < AstralSin> lpi is linux professionals institute
10:06 <@mtown_nerd> Oooh..yeah.. I definitely don't have that.  :(
10:06 < AstralSin> i do :)
10:06 <@mtown_nerd> u r smrt.  im r dum :[
10:07 < AstralSin> i'm an eccouncil instructor
10:07 <@mtown_nerd> oOOoo
10:07 <@mtown_nerd> Nifty
10:07 < AstralSin> i'll be going to germany to teach sometime soon
10:07 <@mtown_nerd> It always seemed like a really cool thing to be involved in ... but ...  I just don't work with the technology regularly enough (see previous comment)
10:07 <@mtown_nerd> Wow, neat.  :D
10:07 <@mtown_nerd> And ... you...work on a Help Desk?   *puzzle*
10:07 < AstralSin> i know, right?
10:07 <@mtown_nerd> lol
10:08 < AstralSin> im entry level, i've never had an IT job before, but i know my shit and i'm not afraid to show it so i'll move up quickly
10:08 <@mtown_nerd> Are thre different, like, specialities of the Ethical Hacker's program?  Or is it pretty much a one-size-fits-all thing?
10:08 < AstralSin> yeah, there are a bunch of tests ECCouncil offers, but there are 3 main certification paths iirc
10:08 < AstralSin> http://eccouncil.org/certification.htm
10:09 < AstralSin> they should really reorganize that page a bit, to get ECSA you gotta be CEH first, and  to get LPT you gotta be ECSA
10:09 < AstralSin> so there are requirements for some of the certs
10:10 < AstralSin> but its a blast studying for eccouncil material
10:11 <@mtown_nerd> hehe
10:11 <@mtown_nerd> hrmmm
10:11  * mtown_nerd was just looking at the Entry Level ones
10:11 < AstralSin> wtf this DCC company says i must successfully complete an ALCOHOL, drug, and controlled substance screening
10:12 < AstralSin> thats bullshit, they shouldn't test for alcohol
10:12 <@mtown_nerd> I have an ASsoc. Degree in Networking & Communications...and do Desktop Support.  lol   It would be nice to actually *do* network stuff for a change.  :[
10:12 <@mtown_nerd> ...  I'm pretty sure that's just to make sure you don't come in completely toasted.  lol
10:13 < AstralSin> i'll take a breath test but i'm not comfortable for them testing if i drank the previous night
10:13 < AstralSin> i mean, thats an invasion of privacy as far as i'm concerned
10:14 <@sdodson> i mean, don't work there as far as they're concerned
10:14 < AstralSin> fuck em
10:15 <@mtown_nerd> You might wanna' find out what the test consists of
10:15 <@mtown_nerd> It may just be a breath test
10:15 <@mtown_nerd> *Shrug*
10:15 <@mtown_nerd> If it's anything else, I'd be a bit concerned.  heh
10:16  * mtown_nerd reads more on this fandangled EC-Council contraptionry!
10:18 <@mtown_nerd> hrmm...looks like the Entry level "Network 5" test is dead-on with the Net+  :o
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10:19 < AstralSin> it pretty much is
10:20 < AstralSin> im gonna ask my buddy, he's done it already
10:21 <@mtown_nerd> They have this nifty chart...and it says that the "Network Security" is equiv. to the Net+
10:22 <@mtown_nerd> And that the CEH is equiv to the MCSA
10:22 <@mtown_nerd> er....*E, rather
10:22 < AstralSin> thats in terms of career placement basically
10:22 < AstralSin> but its completely different subject matter
10:23 <@mtown_nerd> Oooh
10:23 <@mtown_nerd> k
10:23 < AstralSin> its just that alot of places are still unfamiliar with ECCouncil because the IT departments are run by a bunch of old farts
10:23 <@mtown_nerd> yeah
10:24 <@mtown_nerd> Well, the Enterprise environments don't seem to cater well to the CEH types simply because, as far as their upper mgmt is concerned, they're not certifiable
10:24 <@mtown_nerd> I think in a lot of cases, it's more a matter of reputation than it is technical aptitude to these guys
10:24 <@mtown_nerd> That's my experience, anyway.
10:25 <@mtown_nerd> *shrug*
10:25 < AstralSin> CEH is good for people that wanna be penetration testers (me), but it seems that to become a penetration tester you gotta have experience penetration testing... which confuses the shit out of me
10:25 <@mtown_nerd> They like continuity across the enterprise, and they like to have a name and address to go to when shit hits the fan so that their own asses aren't left in the sling.
10:25 <@mtown_nerd> heh
10:26 <@mtown_nerd> yeah
10:26 <@mtown_nerd> bleh... I just want out of Desktop support.  x_x
10:26 <@mtown_nerd> It's killing me.  I've been here waaaaay too long.
10:26 < AstralSin> look for a different job
10:27 <@mtown_nerd> I just got a different job, but it was a DST position.  Nothing else was available
10:27 <@mtown_nerd> granted, there seem to be a lot of good opportunities within this enterprise, simply because it's never had anything before, and now the new CIO and IT Directory are getting MASSIVE projects off the ground
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10:28 < AstralSin> if you want a networking job, my suggestion is to get a cisco certification, thats a failsafe
10:28 <@Shadow404> yeah, im waiting for the same thing
10:28 <@mtown_nerd> Stuff like new infrastructure hardware, SIM, new Help Desk (and new HD system, Altiris), new server hardware across the board, new NAS/SAN setup, etc.
10:28 <@Shadow404> got a few things opening up shortly in my compnay
10:28 < AstralSin> im working on my mcsa now, then i'm gonna go for my ccna
10:28 <@Shadow404> thats im interviewig for
10:29 <@mtown_nerd> I would interview for these, but I haven't ever been allowed to work on live servers or do anything outside of basic port configuration on 3900-series Cisco switches.  lol
10:29 < AstralSin> the second tier guys i talked to yesterday said they were talking about bringing in more linux systems, and i know i'm the only one in that place with sufficient linux experience
10:29 <@mtown_nerd> That's cool
10:29 < AstralSin> mtown_nerd: www.astralsin.com/cisco get the packet tracer program and the semsim program
10:29 <@mtown_nerd> There's zero Linux in this place, and there probably never will be.  lol
10:29 <@Dolemite> AstralSin : So have you figured out where you're going to live yet?
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10:30 < AstralSin> packet tracer is an awesome simulation environment that lets you setup your own network and configure the routers, switches, servers, workstations, etc
10:30 < AstralSin> semsim teaches you IOS
10:30 < AstralSin> Dolemite: not yet, i havent really gotten the chance to look yet
10:31 < AstralSin> i'd like something between franklin and nashville but i don't know if i could afford it
10:31 <@Dolemite> Unfortunately there is a dearth of inexpensive housing in that area
10:32 <@mtown_nerd> hrmm...neat...thanks AstralSin :]
10:32 <@Dolemite> but at least if you're closer in to Nashville you'll be going against the main flow of traffic
10:32  * mtown_nerd goes semi-afk to read up on EC Council and other curricula
10:33 < AstralSin> mtown_nerd: to take CEH, you gotta have 2+ years experience in security... otherwise you could be a student at tennessee technology center at shelbyville
10:33 < AstralSin> thats the only school anywhere afaik that allows you to take the test without that experience
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10:35 <@mtown_nerd> hah...well...I def. don't have that.  :{
10:35 <@mtown_nerd> But ... *shrug* ...we'll see.
10:35 <@Shadow404> sometimes i really hate the sales dept, they just make a bad situation worse when the respond to a thred most of the time
10:35 <@mtown_nerd> In this current org, I don't think there's much use for the skillset, honestly.  I mean, they're going to be hiring a Security aDministrator...but I'm nowhere near qualified for it.  lol  And I'm not sure getting cert'd - even as soon as tomorrow, if it were possible -  would make me anymore qualified for it.
10:36 <@mtown_nerd> But it still seems pretty cool
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10:38 <@Dolemite> How not to fire a gun:
10:38 <@Dolemite> ~minilink http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJCUglNpFTU
10:38 <@Dolemite> ok, maybe no minilink
10:38 <@Dolemite> but that's short enough as it is, I guess
10:40 <@mtown_nerd> AstralSin: It seems like a lot of these ECC curricula are offered via training courses....    are there no self-study programs for stuff like the EVCP?
10:40 < AstralSin> nope
10:40 <@mtown_nerd> I see..
10:41 < AstralSin> and its pretty expensive if you don't go through TTC Shelbyville, and you gotta have an endorsement from an employer
10:41 <@mtown_nerd> Wow
10:41 <@mtown_nerd> lol   No scrubs, I see.
10:42 <@mtown_nerd> Well..that's out, then.  :[
10:42 < AstralSin> unless you're a student at that school :)
10:42 < AstralSin> to take it is pretty much a similar process to take CISSP
10:43 <@mtown_nerd> Hehe... I'm nowhere near Shelbyville I don't think.
10:43 < AstralSin> but it may be changing, the reason we were able to do it is because ECCouncil is testing the waters to see if its feasible to make the test more available
10:43 <@mtown_nerd> Well...   meh.
10:43 <@mtown_nerd> Gotcha'
10:43 <@mtown_nerd> Changing, meaning more available?  Less?  Unknown?
10:43 < AstralSin> more available
10:45 <@mtown_nerd> Cool
10:45 <@mtown_nerd> It would be nice if the University of Memphis got in on that.  lol
10:45 <@mtown_nerd> But ...somehow I don't see it happening.
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11:26 <@ware> anyone know the penaltys of driving without insurance?
11:26 <@ware> rather, getting caught driving without insurance
11:26 <@mtown_nerd> Eerm...typically int's just mandatory court appearance
11:26 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: they impound the vehicle
11:27 <@mtown_nerd> If you show up w/ proof of insurance in-hand, they'll just make you pay court cost
11:27 <@ware> Corydon76-dig: they didnt impound it
11:27 <@ware> i hadnt switched it to my truck and got pulled over for that stop sign bullshit
11:27 <@mtown_nerd> haha
11:27 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah...it's typically just mandatory court appearance
11:27 <@ware> i gotta go take pictures to get the angles and prove my case
11:28 <@mtown_nerd> That's what it was for me.  Got pulled over speeding and my policy had just changed, and I hadn't gotten the new cards yet.
11:28 <@ware> well court costs are fckn $1010
11:28 <@ware> err $100
11:28 <@mtown_nerd> Yep
11:28 <@mtown_nerd> Sounds about right. heh
11:28 <@ware> well i didnt have insurance at the time of the incident tho, technically
11:28 <@mtown_nerd> Doesn't matter
11:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, if you prove your case, they waive court costs, right?
11:28 <@mtown_nerd> No
11:28 <@mtown_nerd> well... I don't know
11:28 <@mtown_nerd> They could
11:28 <@mtown_nerd> It's entirely up to them
11:28 <@ware> if my insurance company can send me policy effective dates that are prior to the event then id be fine
11:29 <@mtown_nerd> Correct
11:29 <@ware> why would they? the insurance even is seperate from the stop sign event
11:29 <@mtown_nerd> yeah.
11:29 <@mtown_nerd> They're technically unrelated.
11:29 <@mtown_nerd> Even if the stop sign thing wasn't your fault at all, they'll still ding you for not having insurance
11:29 <@ware> thats what i was thinking
11:29 <@mtown_nerd> So if you can provide coverage dates prior to the event, and (just to be safe) prove that you currently still have insurance, you'll be fine.
11:30 <@ware> which is what i would prefer, cause i wouldnt think the insurance thing would put points on my license
11:30 < AstralSin> if you get insurance before the court case, they usually drop that
11:30 <@ware> i hope so
11:31 <@ware> ima give a sob story how my cars transmisison broke and had to get the truck to work blah blah
11:31 <@ware> didnt get insurance swapped over suck my balls
11:31 <@ware> got court on friday for my bike headlight being out, i got a story for the tail light situation too
11:31 <@ware> err turn signals, which arent required by tn state law
11:32 <@ware> so i dunno why the hell he wrote me a ticket for it in the first place
11:32 <@ware> woot.com
11:36 <@mtown_nerd> Because he wanted your body, and you wouldn't give it to him
11:36 <@mtown_nerd> :o
11:39 <@Evilpig> wpa uses a password as security right?
11:40 <@brimstone> sort-a
11:40 <@brimstone> a hash of the ssid and password
11:41 <@Evilpig> well hell i'll just explain to y'all what this customer just asked me for.  he wants me to pick out an AP from dell that he can install.  as well as some usb nics that he can just plug into people's laptops as they enter this conference room and get them internet access
11:42 <@Evilpig> so I said mac filtering for sure on that.  but encryption?  is wpa easy enough to have plug and go?
11:42 <@Evilpig> what would you guys suggest?
11:42 <@brimstone> if the software support wpa
11:43 <@Evilpig> i'm pretty sure no matter what USB nic I get drivers will have to be installed.
11:43 <@mtown_nerd> hrmm...  wouldn't most laptops have built-in wifi to begin with?  :X
11:44 < AstralSin> the passphrase is saved for ssids, it'll automatically connect once they're setup once
11:44 < AstralSin> mine does anyway
11:44 <@mtown_nerd> Your biggest headache is going to come from having to install USB NICs into laptops...     Why that approach?  Just for standardization?
11:45 <@Evilpig> he doesn't want to config their laptops, I assume,  it seemed like a really odd question from him in the first place
11:45 <@Evilpig> knowing him?  control, most likely
11:45 <@mtown_nerd> He's going to have to configure them anyway; now he just has the extra step of having to install hardware.
11:45 <@Evilpig> the only advantage I can see on the usb nics is just putting a mac filter on the ap
11:45 <@mtown_nerd> Unless the laptops in question don't support WPA, I guess...    that could be one reason.
11:45 <@mtown_nerd> Oh, yeah...that's true.
11:46 <@mtown_nerd> But I thought MAC filtering was considered, like, the *least* secure of the wireless security methods?
11:46 <@Evilpig> given a mac filter....  and we are out in the middle of fucking NOWHERE, should I even worry about encrypting it?  they are just going to be doing web traffic
11:46 <@brimstone> yeah, but you want to do mac filtering AND something else
11:46 <@mtown_nerd> Oooh...  I see.
11:46 <@brimstone> Evilpig: do you not have drops in the conf froom?
11:46 <@mtown_nerd> That would make sense.  lol
11:46  * brimstone froom froom
11:46 <@Evilpig> no drops
11:47 <@brimstone> conference room?
11:47 <@brimstone> ah
11:47 <@Evilpig> if it were my call embed a switch in the conference table and give em patch cables.  I don't like the idea of foreign laptops getting access to the network here anyhow.  I think they should be isolated.  again, not my call
11:50 <@Evilpig> since the bot isn't working.  here is where I am talking about.  http://tinyurl.com/6n2y93
11:50 <@Evilpig> just dead center of that map there.  300 foote lane
11:51 <@Shadow404> whats a good way to check ram on a vista computer?
11:51 <@mtown_nerd> ...system properties? :X
11:52 <@Shadow404> well, not the amount of ram, but a ram health cehcker
11:52 <@Shadow404> *cheker
11:52 <@mtown_nerd> ooooh
11:52 <@mtown_nerd> memtest
11:52 <@Shadow404> grr
11:52 <@Shadow404> *checker
11:52 <@Evilpig> boot memtest
11:52 <@mtown_nerd> blar... I thought it was memtest
11:52 <@mtown_nerd> er...yeah...there ya go.  heh
11:52 <@mtown_nerd> Isn't it one of the F8 boot options now?
11:53 <@Shadow404> i was about to ask that, Evilpig?
11:53 <@Shadow404> im seeing a bunch of hard faults on the performance monitor
11:53 <@mtown_nerd> I think it is ... someone can correct, though, if I'm wrong.
11:53 <@Evilpig> about to ask what?  where to get a bootable cd with memtest?
11:53 <@mtown_nerd> no..
11:53 <@Shadow404> that or if its a bootable option
11:54 <@brimstone> hard faults just mean that the memory requested was not cached yet right?
11:54 <@Shadow404> i dont know
11:54 <@brimstone> thus a paging or memory fault?
11:54 <@Evilpig> alot of machines have system diags as  aboot option now.  dell does if you hit f12 when they come on and pick the diag partition
11:54 <@Shadow404> but her computer is dragging and its a dual core
11:54 <@Shadow404> with not much on it
11:54 <@mtown_nerd> Oh...there it is
11:54 <@Shadow404> so im suspecting ram, before i do a format
11:54 <@mtown_nerd> Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool
11:54 <@brimstone> Shadow404: grab an ubuntu cd and run memtest
11:54 <@mtown_nerd> If you just type that into the search bar in the start menu, it should come up
11:55 <@Shadow404> brimstone: woot, i have a ubuntu cd actually
11:55 <@mtown_nerd> It gives you the option to restart and check at boot
11:55 <@brimstone> yeah, let that run for 12 hrs if it doesn't find anything in the first 5 minutes
11:55 <@brimstone> memtest is at least the OSS standard for testing memory
11:55 <@Shadow404> ok
11:55 <@Shadow404> mtown_nerd: ill go with your suggestion too
11:55 <@brimstone> it'll even move itself around in ram to test all of it
11:56 <@Shadow404> and ill do brimstone's if that doesnt work
11:56 <@Shadow404> unfortunately i cant do either via vnc
11:56 <@brimstone> heh, nope
11:57  * mtown_nerd hums ..."but there's no use crying over every mistake.  You just keep on trying 'til you run out of cake..."   ^.^
11:58 <@Shadow404> portal
11:58 <@mtown_nerd> And the science gets done, and we make a neat gun for the people who are still alive.
11:58 <@mtown_nerd> :D
12:00 <@Shadow404> i have that on mp3 at work
12:00 <@mtown_nerd> I <3 it
12:00  * Shadow404 places portal song into que
12:00 <@mtown_nerd> hooray1
12:01 <@Evilpig> another question.  any of you have any experience with WPS ?  http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101691.asp
12:01 <@Shadow404> i making a note here, huge success
12:01 <@Shadow404> ...except for coil
12:01 <@mtown_nerd> coil = failure
12:01 <@mtown_nerd> but we <3 him anyway
12:01 <@Shadow404> ....thats up to you
12:01 <@Shadow404> he needs to diaf
12:01 <@mtown_nerd> awww :(
12:01 <@mtown_nerd> That's not very nice, Shadow!
12:02 <@Shadow404> yeah, no one ever said i was
12:02 <@Evilpig> Shadow404 isn't a very nice person
12:02 <@Shadow404> hehe
12:02 <@Evilpig> he does like apples though.  
12:02 <@Shadow404> lawl
12:02 <@Evilpig> almost like a horse
12:02 <@Shadow404> bastard
12:02 <@Shadow404> diaf
12:02 <@Evilpig> I bet you could ride him if you had a saddle
12:02  * Shadow404 steps to the other side of channel away from Evilpig 
12:03 <@Evilpig> http://youtube.com/watch?v=uFcwPjt4yFM
12:03 <@Shadow404> ware: wtf are you!!
12:03 <@Shadow404> your shiznit is down
12:03 <@Shadow404> haha
12:03 <@Shadow404> i was so drunk
12:03 <@Shadow404> at least i flicked you off though
12:03 <@Shadow404> and theres ware
12:04 <@Shadow404> man, that was after i had finished off at least and eighth of that handle
12:04 <@Shadow404> and scotchick wasn't helping
12:04 <@Shadow404> dude, i got freaked out when tim touched me
12:05 <@Evilpig> freaked out or turned on?
12:05 <@Shadow404> freaked out
12:06 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: what did you do all night long, stalk ware?
12:07 <@sdodson> hi
12:07 <@Evilpig> I sat at that table drinking and fucking around on the laptop
12:10 <@Evilpig> bah.  I can find a dozen routers that do this WPS but only one damned nic
12:10 <@sdodson> yay, ovirt.org
12:12 <@sdodson> i hate microsoft's msdn account management stuff
12:12 <@brimstone> sdodson: that's pretty
12:13 <@brimstone> you know my first question....
12:17 <@sdodson> brimstone: what's your first question?
12:17 <@sdodson> Will it blend?
12:18 <@brimstone> i don't remember, but "debian?" and "xen?" are still outstanding
12:18 <@brimstone> also, is that a web gui, or an application?
12:18 <@brimstone> can my boss push around vms between hosts using safari on his mac?
12:19  * mtown_nerd wishes he could play Warhammer Online over Remote Desktop.  :(
12:19 <@Shadow404> same for me and wow
12:19 <@brimstone> why not?
12:19 <@Shadow404> it plays, just really really really slow
12:19 <@Shadow404> refresh rate
12:19 <@mtown_nerd> lol
12:19 <@mtown_nerd> Like, .025fps
12:20 <@Shadow404> almost
12:20 <@Shadow404> enough to check he auction house
12:20 <@mtown_nerd> heh
12:20 <@mtown_nerd> I have more bataring to do!!
12:20 <@mtown_nerd> ><
12:20 <@mtown_nerd> *betaring
12:20 <@brimstone> http://streammygame.com/smg/index.php
12:22 <@sdodson> brimstone: it's a web ui
12:23 <@mtown_nerd> :o
12:23 <@mtown_nerd> pewpew
12:23 <@mtown_nerd> Oddly enough, I find myself in the mood to paint minis.  lol
12:23 <@sdodson> what?
12:23 <@mtown_nerd> But I don't have any of my stuff with me. :[
12:23 <@mtown_nerd> Warhammer miniatures. :)
12:24 <@mtown_nerd> Got a couple more Black ORcs to pain, with an ORc Warboss and standard bearer, and a bunch of Empire guys, en route.
12:24 <@mtown_nerd> hooray ebay
12:35 <@sdodson> brimstone: So it's an appliance, debian matterns not
12:35 <@sdodson> matters
12:36 <@Evilpig> sdodson: that looks nifty
12:38 <@Evilpig> is it like a front end for xen and the like or it's own engine?
12:39 <@Evilpig> I see it uses libvert.  but it also talks about it's own hypervisor
12:45 <@aestetix> grrr
12:46 <@aestetix> I can't get firefox 3 working on my system
12:47 <@sdodson> Evilpig: It sits atop kvm
12:47 <@sdodson> Today's daily aestetix failure brought to you by...
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12:57 <@Shadow404> ...brought to you by Coil's mom, "where breeding failure is our business"
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13:03 <@aestetix> I have another failure to report
13:04 <@mtown_nerd> >.>
13:04 <@aestetix> apt-get autoremove just tried to delete my development environment
13:04 <@dc0de> aestetix, err, don't do that?
13:04 <@Evilpig> it might be better for us all if he did
13:04 <@aestetix> I mean
13:04 <@aestetix> I can understand wiping out software I've never used
13:04 <@aestetix> But the program I use every day, and have running at the moment?
13:10 <@Evilpig> alright I am gonna escape this chemical plant before someone comes up with somethign for me to really work on
13:19 <@coil> Shadow404: ??????????????????
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13:22 <@coil> anyone played with dvd::rip?
13:23 <@Shadow404> coil: am i not right?
13:23 <@Shadow404> er, dont answer that
13:26 <@sdodson> Shadow404: why you so mean?
13:27 <@Shadow404> its a love/hate relationship
13:28 <@coil> and i fucking hate him
13:28 <@coil> and he doesn't put out anyway
13:28 <@coil> im about ready to drop his ass
13:28 <@Shadow404> why, i thought you and aestetix were getting married
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14:05 < dc0de__> SkyDog_, ping
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14:06 <@dc0de> someone help me out... where are the geek shoot vids of me shooting stephanies .50 DE?
14:07 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Hmmm. I saw them the other day.
14:08 <@SkyDog_> http://gallery.g33kshoot.com/
14:08 <@SkyDog_> I think there are here.
14:31 <@dc0de> thanks
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15:21 <@sdodson> http://www.flickr.com/photos/damianspain/2584019149/in/set-72157605643949010/
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15:30 <@Shadow404> man, one of my coolest co workers got a job at another better paying company
15:30 <@Shadow404> he has about just ever cert under the sun
15:31 <@Shadow404> just sad to see him go
15:32 <@Evilpig> i'm ready to kill a customer
15:32 <@brimstone> just one?
15:33 <@Evilpig> who has room for a short, fat, shallow grave in their backyard?
15:33 <@brimstone> no rivers nearby?
15:33 <@Evilpig> just one that is being a real headache
15:33 <@Shadow404> i do i do
15:34 <@Shadow404> if its the customer which we discussed a few months ago
15:34 <@Evilpig> if these fuckin' schools weren't so far apart i'd say run fiber and end this mess
15:34 <@Shadow404> i already have the wood chipper, grave and compost pile ready
15:35 <@Evilpig> she's bitching because all their webapps are timing out when she has two techs updating 40+ pcs at a time off windows update
15:35 <@Shadow404> heh, sigh, its temp
15:35 <@Evilpig> they only have 3Mb of pipe at the primary connection and on the wan links
15:35 <@Shadow404> wtf
15:35 <@Shadow404> 3mb for a whole school
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15:36 <@Shadow404> wow, thats no good
15:42 <@Evilpig> i just need to get home so I can start working on that crap again. damnit
15:44 <@Shadow404> i need to get home so i can play wOw, scotchick got me addicted to that again
15:44 <@Shadow404> not mal ganis though
15:45 <@Shadow404> playing on the server my work plays on
15:45 <@Evilpig> tell those losers to transfer to malganis so i can kill then
15:45 <@Shadow404> heh
15:46 < AstralSin> damn, spring hill is fucking expensive to live in, isn't it?
15:46 < AstralSin> just looking at apartments
15:46 < AstralSin> cheapest is over $600/mo
15:55 <@Dolemite> Yeah, plus it's way the fuck out in the sticks
15:55 < AstralSin> i have no problem with that :)
15:58  * aestetix hugs Dolemite 
15:58 <@aestetix> it's been too long
16:02 <@aestetix> I'd love $600/month
16:02 <@polerin> ugh
16:03 <@polerin> I'll be glad when I'm done with doing this stats module
16:03 <@polerin> which unfortunatly won't be any time soon
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16:44  * brimstone pushes polerin into the 32bit compatibility layer
16:44  * mtown_nerd ...right next to the coffee mugs and hand creams.
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17:08 <@nachoguy> Evilpig, set up a WSUS box and be done with it
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17:20  * sdodson wonders how to determine which bios device corresponds to which device after boot
17:20 <@sdodson> wsus yay
17:21 <@Evilpig> I did some digging and it wasn't even the updates.  it was them doing entry on the accounting system and the router is sending all of hte local traffic over the wan links and back
17:22 <@Evilpig> there was a little bit of updating going on but they did nearly 2GB of traffic today while they were complaining
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18:22 <@ware> think im bout to put vista back on this emachine =/
18:22  * AstralSin slaps ware
18:22 < AstralSin> wtf are you doing that for?
18:23 <@ware> well a) i hate it
18:23 <@ware> b) i havent used it on one of my workstations before
18:23 <@ware> 3) i have to troubleshoot it more and more lately
18:23 < AstralSin> bah
18:24 <@ware> and i cant find xp drivers
18:24 <@ware> lol
18:24 < AstralSin> oh, is it one of those vista laptops with hardware made only for vista?
18:25 <@ware> emachine W3619
18:26 < AstralSin> ew
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18:29 <@tcstool> vista and emachine
18:29 <@tcstool> poison
18:29 <@ware> all i need it for is WoW
18:29 <@ware> im dual booting with boo-too
18:29 <@ware> boon*
18:31 <@tcstool> well that's horrible too
18:32 <@ware> have you any ideas.
18:33 <@ware> sound isnt working in xp
18:33 <@ware> and i cant find drivers
18:48 <@tcstool> no drivers are installed?
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19:40 <@ware> wee vista.
19:44 <@nachoguy> Fista?
19:45 <@ware> fist her.
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19:55  * Catonic sings along with Britney Spears 
19:57 <@Catonic> Well, so much for trolling.
19:59 <@ware> oh u sux
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20:05 < AstralSin> dude
20:05 < AstralSin> s
20:05 <@ware> dude
20:06 < AstralSin> i just found an awesome apartment in murfreesboro
20:06 <@ware> where at
20:06 < AstralSin> its directly above enchanted planet
20:06 <@ware> hahahaha i knew ppl that lived there :P
20:06 < AstralSin> what better apartment to get than directly above a headshop :)
20:06 <@ware> yah
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20:12 <@ware> im working on the ircd box now so it should be up tonight
20:13 <@ware> soon as skydeezy lets me put it at HC it should be on a more stable connection
20:13 < AstralSin> cool
20:17 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by Catonic [What, no welcome back?]
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20:17 <@ware> you werent gone, you talked to lm 'almost everyday'
20:17 <@ware> but you never tried to talk to me!
20:17  * ware runs off crying
20:17  * AstralSin trips ware
20:17 < AstralSin> pussy
20:18  * ware faceplants, ends up looking like aestetix, and runs off crying again
20:18 <@ware> theres a facebook plugin for pidgin that lets you chat with facebook friends
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20:18 <@ware> its pretty cool for anyone that uses fb
20:19  * aestetix doesn't use facebook
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20:21 <@tzanger> ware: heh that's kind of cool
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20:21 <@tzanger> I don't use fb either
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20:25 < mtown_nerd1> siiiigh
20:25 < mtown_nerd1> satellite intarweb =/= <3
20:25 <@Catonic> Lag or what?
20:26 < mtown_nerd1> big time
20:26 < mtown_nerd1> And I can't get connected to Gtalk for some reason.
20:26 <@Catonic> Get over it.
20:26 <@ware> latency
20:26 < mtown_nerd1> oh nvm..there it goes
20:26 < mtown_nerd1> haha
20:27 < mtown_nerd1> hooray 1.5s latency!
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20:28 < mtown_nerd1> <3 portableapps.  :]  Have all my profile stuff set up in Pidgin Portable..plug it into my dad's laptop, load it up, and - mostly - everything connects immediately.  :D
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20:30 <@brimstone> yes, portable apps are fun
20:30 <@coil> i
20:30 <@coil> hi
20:30 <@brimstone> i just prefer ssh'ing into a box :D
20:30 <@coil> hi
20:31 <@ware> yeah portable apps is bloated
20:31 <@ware> i hardly use it
20:32 <@ware> ssh4lyfe
20:32 <@Catonic> god#
20:32 <@coil> ssh
20:32 <@coil> is ftw
20:34 < mtown_nerd1> :[
20:34 <@coil> mtown_nerd1: ya fu
20:35  * mtown_nerd1 cries
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20:39 < mtown_nerd1> Well...screw you guys..   I'm gonna' take my portableapps - which I think are TOTALLY FLIPPIN SWEET btw - and go work out for a while!! :'(
20:40 <@coil> i lost my hflash drive
20:40 <@coil> that had that crap on it
20:40 <@coil> either it's lost or someone took it
20:41 <@poiupoiu> encrypted at all?
20:41 <@coil> no
20:41 <@poiupoiu> importance of the files?
20:41 <@poiupoiu> (personal info, etc)
20:42 <@coil> except for my resume not really, but it's a nice flash drive
20:42 <@poiupoiu> then it could've been plenty worse
20:44 <@coil> it was a crusier titanium
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20:49 <@ware> piece of shit fbsd install
20:49 <@coil> lol you fail
20:50 <@rhia> darwinism in action: http://lnk.nu/dallasnews.com/ll6.html
20:51 <@rhia> ditto: http://lnk.nu/dallasnews.com/ll7.html
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20:53 <@juice> http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-05-02-coed-rooms_N.htm
20:54 <@coil> lol
20:54 <@coil> rhia dallas sux
20:55 <@rhia> coil: the whole state: http://lnk.nu/dallasnews.com/ll8.html
20:56 <@coil> that's pretty bad
20:58 <@rhia> this is worse: ://lnk.nu/dallasnews.com/ll9.html
20:59 <@rhia> (Richardson is a close in suburb to Dallas)
20:59 <@coil> yeah i know where richardson is
20:59 <@coil> att has a data center there
20:59 <@coil> theres always a problem there :P
21:00 <@rhia> vut the school districts are good! pfffttt
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21:08 <@someninjamaster> wth was that for
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21:13 <@Catonic> hey juice, how ya been?
21:15 <@juice> good
21:15 <@juice> got a new job
21:15 <@juice> moved
21:15 <@Catonic> going to defcon?
21:15 <@juice> man I want to but I doubt it
21:15 <@juice> my 90 days aren't up until aug 12th
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21:22 <@juice> plus I think I am going to phill aug 1
21:23 <@juice> pilly
21:23 <@juice> for a company party
21:25 <@coil> hi
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21:34 -!- Catonic changed the topic of #se2600 to: Cave Trip, July 12!  See Dolemite for info | The Last HOPE, Jul 18-20 | someone(s) kindly get off your asses and update www.se2600.org.
21:35 <@ware> PIG
21:35 <@Catonic> We have 20% humidity in the datacenter.
21:36 <@ware> uh oh
21:36 <@ware> that makes me have 80% humidity in my pants
21:36 <@Catonic> Think about that for a minute. 20% humidity is a humid day in Las Vegas. At 105 degrees. At 68 degrees? Fuckin' freezing.
21:37 <@ware> true, would you get me a job?
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21:37 <@Catonic> wow. I'm holding a potato as big as my hand.
21:38 <@coil> hot
21:38  * ware wonders why tab completion works as root in fbsd7 but not as normal user
21:39 <@coil> different shell
21:39 <@coil> it's probably only using sh
21:39 <@ware> whys it work as root and not a normal user
21:39 <@coil> ./usr/local/bin/bash
21:39 <@ware> both in sh
21:39 <@coil> why would use use that
21:40 <@coil> you
21:40 <@coil> hows phneak?
21:40 <@ware> im workin on it right now
21:40 <@coil> word
21:42 <@coil> wat r u doin 2 it
21:43 <@ware> just haxin it
21:46 <@juice> Catonic, I have walked into 57 and like 35 %
21:46 <@polerin> run run run.. run runrun AWAY..  Psycho killer, que'st que c'est... fa fa fa fa fa far far far far away
21:47 <@polerin> ok if you guys get a chance to see "behind the mask" do it.  Showtime movie out on dvd... lissa stumbled on it
21:47 <@polerin> it's really sorta good
21:48 <@polerin> .. maby stars
21:48 <@sdodson> zomg coil just punked ware's knowledge
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21:54 <@ware> sdodson: ya right.
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22:13 <@coil> sdodson: lol
22:13 <@coil> i've been using fbsd probably longer then linux
22:20 <@coil> that's why i ask all these noob linux questions
22:22 <@ware> well i cant get ircd-hybrid working on it
22:22 <@ware> pissing me off
22:22 <@coil> what's the matter with it
22:22 <@ware> dunno
22:25 <@coil> ooooooooooookay then
22:25 < mtown_nerd2> hooray, troubleshooting.  heh
22:25 <@coil> i need to play with ircd so then we can link our servers in a totally non gay way!!!
22:26 < mtown_nerd2> right up the pooper(s)
22:26 <@coil> no mtown_nerd2
22:26 <@brimstone> i don't think they work like that...
22:26 <@coil> we know you can't act straight
22:26 < mtown_nerd2> oh  :(
22:26 <@coil> so stop tyring
22:27 < mtown_nerd2> Well, they *shouuld* work that way!
22:27 < mtown_nerd2> Whatever.  I'm classified as a "Masculine" type!  ><
22:27 <@coil> so unixfag is the sub?
22:27 <@brimstone> is that on your id card or something?
22:27 <@coil> haha good one brimstone
22:27 <@brimstone> who "classifies" anyway?
22:27  * Corydon76-dig thinks mtown_nerd2 is more "sensitive" than he lets on
22:28 < mtown_nerd2> lol @ ID card
22:28 < mtown_nerd2> ACtually... I never got a card.  Just the temporary one that they give you at your Coming Out ceremony..    something about a mis-hap in distrobution, or some shit.  ;[
22:29 <@coil> some mexican stole my card
22:29  * mtown_nerd2 throws a snowball at Corydon76-dig
22:29 <@coil> yellow snowball?
22:29 < mtown_nerd2> noep
22:29 < mtown_nerd2> i don't do yellow snowballs
22:30 < mtown_nerd2> I do
22:30 < mtown_nerd2> >.>
22:30 < mtown_nerd2> <.<
22:31 < mtown_nerd2> LAZORS PEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEEEeeEeeEEwwWWww!!!!
22:31 < mtown_nerd2> :D
22:31 < mtown_nerd2> ur all ded lol =]
22:31 <@coil> charge them up again, i think you used up all of their power
22:31  * mtown_nerd2 has multiple LAZOR BANKZ
22:32 < mtown_nerd2> (yes, with multidirectional firing)
22:32 < mtown_nerd2> er...omnidirectional, I guess I should say.
22:32 <@coil> yeah i bet you would say tghat
22:32 < mtown_nerd2> yeah i bet your FACE!  >:E
22:36 <@polerin> wait, you got a card?!
22:36 <@polerin> grrrrrrr
22:36 <@polerin> they keep promising me mine ;)
22:36 <@coil> it got lost in the mail
22:37 < mtown_nerd2> heh
22:37 <@ware> *shrug*
22:38 <@ware> eyes are blurry, got it halfway working but ill fux with it 2moro
22:38 <@coil> kthx
22:38 <@polerin> grr
22:38 <@coil> rrg
22:41 < mtown_nerd2> rgr
22:45 < mtown_nerd2> pyoooooo  -.-
22:45 <@coil> no
22:46 < mtown_nerd2> afktimes for me
22:47 < mtown_nerd2> bai gais
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22:47 <@coil> hi best friend dasunt
22:49 <@sdodson> unce unce
22:51 <@aestetix> ok
22:51 <@aestetix> who wants a fabulous news update
22:51 <@aestetix> about why my friends fail
22:52 <@aestetix> so... anyone remember a few years back in the channel
22:52 <@aestetix> when we were trying to hook catonic up with my friend "shortbus"?
22:52 <@coil> no
22:53 <@aestetix> sdodson might
22:54 <@aestetix> let's just say she earned her nickname
22:54 <@aestetix> in any case
22:54 <@aestetix> she found the love of her life
22:55 <@aestetix> and was set to get married
22:55 <@coil> lol
22:55 <@aestetix> and then, a week before the wedding, her fiance pulls out of the wedding
22:55 <@aestetix> and decided he was gonna use their wedding money to open a record label
22:55 <@coil> shr
22:56 <@aestetix> such a winner
22:57 <@aestetix> This is up there with the friend who totalled three cars and the girl who discovered she had two vaginas.
22:57 <@sdodson> i might what?
22:57 <@Mirage> A girl I knew in HS totaled 4 cars her Jr/Sr years
22:58 <@aestetix> Mirage: he totaled the cars after lying on the car loan application
22:59 <@Mirage> Oh..in Julie's case..the bitch just couldn't drive
22:59 <@aestetix> I'm pretty sure the insurance company is still trying to find him.
22:59 <@aestetix> He wound up moving to california though.
23:04 <@polerin> aestetix: ...  two..  did she share?
23:04 <@polerin> :P
23:05 <@aestetix> lol
23:05 <@aestetix> it's some wierd medical condition
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23:29 <@coil> califorina
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