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07:16 < smoke____> good morning all
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07:32 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:37 <@brimstone> hi smoke_________________________________________________________
07:37 <@GodFix> morning
07:42 < smoke____> So, whats new in the world this morning besides coffee?
07:42 <@brimstone> pi over lambda
07:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, the drama certainly isn't new
07:47 < smoke____> It's all greek to me
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08:10 <@someninjamaster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX90r12ANjY&NR=1
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08:32 <@brimstone> hi Irongeek
08:32 < Irongeek> Howdy Brimstone.
08:32 < smoke____> hi
08:33 < Irongeek> Anyone else submit a tack for PhreakNIC?
08:33 < Irongeek> tack=talk.
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08:34 < smoke____> I am still working on the one for hope
08:35 < Irongeek> PhreankNIC and Notacon are the only ones I think I can afford. :)
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08:38 < smoke____> New York should not be that much further, and it's bigger
08:38 < smoke____> Besides I don't recall seeing you at the last Notacon
08:40 <@wizardpc> I'm thinking about doing my one on fauxjacking
08:42 < smoke____> fauxjacking?
08:42 < booker404> faux = fake?
08:43 <@brimstone> ps faux
08:43 < booker404> ps fauxjacking ?
08:43 < booker404> ;)
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08:44 <@wizardpc> lojack with a prepaid cellphone
08:45 < booker404> ahh yes.
08:45 < booker404> wish I could catch it! I'm going to be in NY during it I think
08:46 <@wizardpc> There will be video
08:47 <@someninjamaster> omfg wizardpc lives
08:48 <@wizardpc> only for the next 2 days though
08:48 <@wizardpc> then I get married
08:50 <@Dolemite> then you're no longer free!
08:50 < ware> wee
08:52 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch!
08:52 <@oddball> morning all
08:52 < ware> doley moley!
08:52 <@oddball> get a room you two
08:55 < ware> get to goto work today at 10
08:55 < ware> and someone from the office tried to call me at 730
08:55 < ware> ha.
08:56 <@someninjamaster> i was at the office at 7:05
08:56 <@wizardpc> my mom called me at 7am because her wireless was slow
08:56 < ware> i didnt get home from crossville til 10pm the other day so i told em i was coming inlate one day
08:57 < ware> i finally got my 500mw usb adapter and +15dBi yagi last night
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08:58 <@someninjamaster> cool
08:58 <@someninjamaster> once i recover some of my funds i want to get one of those
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08:58 <@wizardpc> has anyone else been salavating over those new video billboards?
08:58 <@someninjamaster> how good they look
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08:59 <@someninjamaster> or how awesome they would be to hack
08:59 <@wizardpc> yes, that
08:59 <@wizardpc> rushhour pr0n ftw
09:00 <@someninjamaster> i was thinking rush hour tubgirl or goatse
09:02 <@wizardpc> So I drove by the base of one in chattanooga and guess what?
09:02 <@wizardpc> its got a cable modem
09:02 <@wizardpc> and the steel box that contains all the interesting bits is locked with a $5 padlock
09:03 <@someninjamaster> haha
09:07 < smoke____> hmmm
09:09 <@wizardpc> Also, I dont know if you've noticed but theres a camera pointed at each billboard
09:11 <@wizardpc> presumably that's a webcam-esque way to verify the images are loaded properly
09:18 < smoke____> anybody have a paintball gun?
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09:26 <@Dolemite> ware : No Bonnaroo this year for you?
09:26 < ware> nerp.
09:26 < ware> first in 3 years
09:26 < ware> err the past 3 roos
09:27 < ware> time to grow up a little lol
09:36 <@Dolemite> so I hit level 15 on my lock last night
09:37 <@tzanger> ? you have a lock with levels?
09:37 <@Dolemite> warlock
09:37 <@Dolemite> WoW
09:37 <@tzanger> oh
09:41 <@brimstone> silly tzanger, this isn't #se2600, this is #seWoW
09:42 <@tzanger> heh
09:42 <@tzanger> I just discovered today that I have had 64-bit hardware for years
09:42 <@tzanger> my old P4 celeron (family 15, model 3) will run 64-bit code
09:42 <@brimstone> not well i'd imagine
09:43 <@tzanger> well apparently the amd64 debian install will work just fine
09:43 <@brimstone> i thought the p4s faked 64-bit compliance
09:43 <@brimstone> they ran 64-bit code slower then 32-bit code
09:43 <@tzanger> I don't know enough about this stuff
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09:47 <@nachoguy> http://www.whoknows.com.au/oneeasypiece.jpg
09:49 <@I-MOD> wow...
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09:50 <@brimstone> herm, i wonder if the camel colored one would clash with my chest hair
09:52 <@I-MOD> you'll never know until you try
09:56 <@GodFix> anyone know how to reactivate a disk in LDM through cli?
09:59 <@sdodson> brimstone: chest hair? I thought you were like 12
09:59 <@I-MOD> dmadmin.exe?
09:59 <+coil> that's harsh sdodson
09:59 <@I-MOD> sdodson, i'm the one that looks 12 :D
10:00 <+coil> wireless and vaccum dont go well together
10:00 <@I-MOD> unless you're using 802.11a
10:00 <+coil> wat do u mean
10:01 <@I-MOD> different frequency
10:01 <@I-MOD> GodFix, diskperf -yv
10:02 <@I-MOD> wait
10:02 <+coil> well someone is finally cleaning up their mess
10:02 <+coil> and my wireless is sucking
10:02 <@I-MOD> that's to activate logical disk counters, not a logical disk
10:02 <+coil> so im sure it interferes with any signal
10:04 <@critch> I-MOD: vaccumm cleaners that use brushes are very likely to create sparks that basically are wideband transmitters.
10:04 <@critch> Brushes, as in the carbon blocks in the motor.
10:04 <@I-MOD> yeah
10:08 <+coil> i need to rotate my computer or something
10:08 <+coil> cuz that noise from the wireless is annoying
10:15 <@I-MOD> lol
10:15 < ware> bleh.
10:15 < ware> just got here
10:15 < ware> and now i have to goto pulaski
10:15 <@I-MOD> to work?
10:16 < ware> yeah i came in at 10 cause i worked late
10:16 < ware> we dont get OT cause its salary but bossman tries to compensate for it when he can
10:16 <@Dolemite> At least you didn't go Lebanon -> Nashville -> Cookeville -> Pulaski -> Cookeville -> Lebanon
10:16 < ware> true
10:17 < ware> but i havent had time to update my timesheets since cob mon
10:17 < ware> and half the shit aint wrote down lol
10:17 <@Dolemite> ware : Don't be tempted to wear a white hood while in Pulaski
10:18 < ware> i dont think i have to, i got the rebel flag in the truck to put up
10:20 < ware> woooot
10:20 <@oddball> ahhh... the joys of not being a contractor.
10:21 < ware> apparently going to ohio for sonicwall training in july
10:21 <@oddball> cool
10:21 <@wizardpc> oddball: you mean like health insurance and not having to pay the full 15.5% social security tax?
10:25 <@oddball> well, I meant not working for a contrator company... ever so often, I have to drive to our lebanon office, and soon our franklin office, but that's it.
10:25 <@Dolemite> yeah, no bennies and having to pay self employment tax is teh suck
10:28 <@oddball> Oh, and I don't have to justify every minute of my day
10:28 <@Dolemite> wizardpc : Did you ever buy a house?
10:33 < ware> ~gone to pulaski
10:33 <+MxZBot> ware: wish i knew
10:33 < ware> wee
10:35 <+coil> dennis
10:38 <+coil> dennis?
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10:51 <@wizardpc> Dolemite: nope, cuz this girl im marrying comes with $40,000 in student loans and credit cards
10:51 <@wizardpc> we is broke
10:52 <@brimstone> only $40k?
10:53 <@Dolemite> Ah.  I thought you were going to buy the house before getting married.
10:53 <@Dolemite> the tax deduction is a big help in paying off debt
10:55 <@Dolemite> 'course right now the pickens is good for house buying
10:56 <@Dolemite> not so good for the selling
10:57 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
10:57 <@Dolemite> w00f
11:04 <@wizardpc> We havent seen the bottom yet
11:08 <@SkyDog_> bottom of what? :) What's wrong with the middle?
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11:13 <+coil> lol nmap kills my internet
11:13 <+coil> weird ip
11:14 <+coil> wow
11:14 <+coil> i ddosed that router
11:14 <+coil> that's what it was
11:14 <+coil> and it rebooted and got a new ip
11:14 <+coil> watch ill do it again
11:15 <+coil> oh i guess it wouldn't be ddos....
11:15 <+coil> just a dos
11:16 <+coil> because im just doing nmap -P0 192.168.1.1/24
11:16 <@SkyDog_> That's not a dos... That's a shitty router. :)
11:16 <@brimstone> i've killed fbsd boxes like that
11:17 <@brimstone> never a linux one yet
11:17 <+coil> SkyDog_: it's a 2wire one
11:17 <+coil> so go figure
11:17 <+coil> but i can't complain, it's free internet while i dont have any at home
11:17 <@SkyDog_> Heh. I have a 2wire wireless PCMCIA that's pretty robust.
11:17 <@oddball> Ok, I think it's time for me to swap out a computer and head to lunch.
11:17  * Lissa waves to oddball 
11:17 <@SkyDog_> Maybe they re-branded someone else's piece of shit.
11:18 <+coil> yep
11:18 <+coil> i dunno actually
11:18 <+coil> nmap is saying "Strange error from connect (101);Network is unreachable"
11:21 <@SkyDog_> Maybe they aren't adhereing to some part of the standard...
11:28 <@wizardpc> anyone have a use for an Apple IIgs?
11:28 <@brimstone> i need a new ogg player
11:28 <+coil> brimstone: have you heard about rhythmbox?
11:28 <@brimstone> yes!
11:28 <@brimstone> i'm been using banshee the last 2 days though
11:29 <@brimstone> it seems ok so far
11:29 <@brimstone> it'll actually move my mp3s i import into my music directory and rename based on id3 tags for me
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11:29 <@brimstone> that's nice
11:29 <@SkyDog_> My ipod is pissing me off. On the way home, it played a few songs, then stopped playing ANYTHING that is has onboard. And I was REALLY wanting to play a few choice songs very loud.
11:35 <@wizardpc> Nikki's ipod updated firmware 2 days ago and ceased playing anything but stuff she'd bought from the itunes store
11:35 <@SkyDog_> Umm. Interesting.
11:36 <@SkyDog_> Did that get rectified?
11:36 <@wizardpc> yeah, she had to delete everything off her ipod and then re-add all the songs
11:37 <@SkyDog_> That's what I am doing now. Teh suck.
11:37 < scoot> ki
11:39 <+coil> http://99.132.205.78:8888/
11:42 <@polerin> maby I'll be there to shake your hand, maby I'll be to share the land.. we'll be givin away when we all live togeather... talking bout togeather now!
11:42  * polerin dances
11:42  * polerin pokes wizard with a spork
11:43 <@SkyDog_> Woohoo! My ipod is working again. Now I can leave my door open and still ignore everyone.
11:43 <@ladymerlin> lol
11:44 <+coil> how do you make a webcam live stream
11:44 <+coil> what applet do you need on a website
11:45 <@SkyDog_> I have an IP cam for my office. It does streaming via firmware.
11:45 <@SkyDog_> I know there is software that you can buy that will do it for cheep.
11:45 <+coil> this is just using webcam-server
11:45 <+coil> it says it can do streaming, but i see no flags
11:46 <+coil> manual only meantions something about an applet
11:46 <@SkyDog_> Weird.
11:47 <@GodFix> coil: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/How-To--Stream-Video-from-Your-Webcam-to-the-Internet
11:47 <+coil> GodFix: this is in linux
11:48 <+coil> ubuntu specifically
11:57 <@wizardpc> coil: http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2700
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11:59 <@wizardpc> if you want a true stream (instead of rapidly-refreshing-webpage) you'll have to embed some media player that directly connects to the webcam
12:00 <+coil> ahh
12:00 <+coil> cp /root/webcam_server-0.5/src/client/applet.jar  /var/www/client/applet.jar
12:00 <+coil> i wonder what that applet is
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12:27 <@someninjamaster> aww
12:31 <+scoot> wwa
12:42 < ware> oh badass
12:42 < ware> found a wireless projector on this wlan haha
12:42 < ware> Welcome to the InFocus Powered Wireless Projector
12:43 <@SkyDog_> We have those at Vandy. I think they took them off the wireless because they could be hacked.
12:44 < ware> last thing i need is to connect to it and have my screen and yall up during someones board meeting
12:45 <@SkyDog_> Heh. You can re-program the splash screen on some of ours.
12:47 < ware> hmmmm
12:48  * I-MOD programs horsepr0n onto SkyDog's projectors
12:48 <@I-MOD> actually....s/horse/truck/
12:50 <@SkyDog_> Hey, they aren't MINE. :)
12:51 < ware> hehe no password on that thing
12:51 < ware> WELL sonicwall training may kill the cave trip for me
13:06 <@Dolemite> no way!
13:24 <@Evilpig> dear cunt,  I say cunt because it is the only thing that accurately describes you.  When I say reset nw51_srv that doesn't mean turn off sc_office as well.  it was working fine til you so rudely removed the power from it.
13:37 <@someninjamaster> haha
13:44 <@wizardpc> I had a client PREFER to pay $10,000 in labor and delay a project by 4 days rather than let me plug in a thumbdrive and copy a file from their network
13:44 <@wizardpc> I could copy things TO their network, but not from
13:45 <@oddball> ah yes.... must be secure!
13:46 <@wizardpc> they also pay someone to walk around the building checking to see if anyone's wifi card is turned on
13:47 <@oddball> christ
13:48 <@oddball> wow... listening to Dave Ramsey... Current caller is working 80 hours making $50k, and doesn't see why that's an issue.
13:48 <@oddball> (80 hours a week)
13:49 <@wizardpc> and he was driving an hour each way to do it
13:49 <@oddball> I missed that part
13:50 <@wizardpc> yeah the beginning of the call was "I'm spending $200/wk on fuel"
13:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Ouch.  I was upset when I started spending that much on fuel in a month
13:51 <@wizardpc> fuel cost for me is now 20% of my take home pay
13:51 <@wizardpc> but I have to buy gas for Nikki now too
13:53 <@Dolemite> that's still a hell of a lot of money on gasoline
13:54 <@wizardpc> yeah. I have a $600/month budget for gas.
13:54 <@Lissa> mine's about $50 a month
13:54 <@wizardpc> but it's extraneous travel where most of that comes from
13:55 <@wizardpc> for example, it costs $30 for us to visit Nikki's brother in Gallatin
13:55 <@Dolemite> What are you driving, a Panzer Tank?
13:56 <@wizardpc> just driving to work and back I could probably make it on $250/mo for the both of us
13:56 <@Dolemite> Or did you move way way out into the sticks?
13:56 <@wizardpc> my jeep gets 17.5mpg on the highway.
13:56 <@Dolemite> You still in Brentwood?
13:57 <@wizardpc> im in Cool Springs til the end of the month
13:58 <@wizardpc> then I'm moving to west nashville (but not the sketchy part:D)
13:58 <@polerin> wizardpc: heh, out of that area hmm?
13:58 <@Dolemite> Oh, so you're avoiding West Meade? ;)
13:58 <@polerin> hey I LIKE west meade
13:58 <@wizardpc> me too
13:58 <@polerin> it's just spensive
13:58 <@wizardpc> no this is on the river
13:59 <@oddball> he means he's not moving into the same complex Dagmar moved into
13:59 <@Dolemite> What, he doesn't like roaches?
14:00 <@wizardpc> my criteria for a new apartment was "2br, less than $800/mo, and somewhere Nikki isnt going to need a shotgun to answer the door"
14:00 <@oddball> didn't Dagmar move into a complex on American ave?
14:00 <@Dolemite> not sure what road he's on
14:00 <@Dolemite> but he had to fumigate the place when he moved in
14:02 <@oddball> Yeah, I remember that.  I think he's also the only fluent english speaker in the complex.
14:02 <@wizardpc> Been there, done that
14:03 <@Dolemite> Probably so
14:04 <@wizardpc> so now I get to go talk to HR about getting $300 extra taken out to pay for Nikki's health insurance
14:04 <@Dolemite> But he'd rather save his money for other things, so that's his choice to live in the ghetto
14:04 <@Dolemite> $300!@#%$!?#@?
14:04 <@oddball> jesus!  $300 a month?
14:04 <@Dolemite> That's a shitload just for adding a spouse
14:04 <@polerin> wisardPC: private insurance?
14:04 <@Dolemite> My whole family coverage is less than that
14:05 <@polerin> I'm just lucky to be covered at all
14:05 <@polerin> if BCBS is indeed going to cover me
14:05 <@polerin> Aetna consideres me uninsurable.
14:05 <@polerin> period.
14:05 <@polerin> Even though they explicitly don't cover trans stuff in the policy, they still downcheck moe for it
14:05 <@polerin> s/moe/me
14:06 <@polerin> because i'm SO fucking unhealthy, lemmie tell you what.
14:06 <@polerin> meh.
14:08 <@SkyDog_> Well, putting a set of tits on a guy isn't exactly the norm yet.
14:09 <@Dolemite> I dunno, haven't you been to the beach in FL recently?
14:09 <@SkyDog_> I grew my own set, thank you. I didn't have to take pharmeceuticals for them.
14:09 <@Dolemite> It's like the new fashion for everybody there
14:09 <@Dolemite> True, my manteetz are au naturale.
14:10 <@polerin> SkyDog_: fuck you, I'm not asking them to cover that.
14:10 <@polerin> and wow could you be any ruder about that.
14:11 <@critch> umm, text lacks the abitity to convey stress easily. but I think if you reread SkyDog_'s message and see that 'yet' it wasn't meant to be rude
14:11 <@SkyDog_> Yes, I could be. But I didn't say that to be rude, but to point out the fact that you're now in a slim minority.
14:11 <@Dolemite> But yeah, I'm sure they're just steering clear because it'd be difficult to tie any complications to the exclusions...   not that it's right, but I can see their point of view
14:12 <@critch> and sorry for jumping in without doing much backscroll reading
14:12 <@SkyDog_> They are trying to fit people into categories and pidgeonholing them. You are NOT in a large group. Would you agree?
14:12 <@polerin> Trust me I'm well aware of the fact that I'm in a minority.  Still doesn't meen you have to be an ass about how you say that.  I'm not worried about the Yet
14:12 <@polerin> It's the 'Tits on a guy'
14:13 <@SkyDog_> um. ok. so by definition, by the STATE definition, are you a guy or gal?
14:13 <@polerin> Depends on the state
14:13 <@SkyDog_> tits on a guy. I am allowed freedom of speech. Yeah, it's not PC, but it could be alot worse.
14:13 <@SkyDog_> TN.
14:13 <@polerin> I wasn't born in TN
14:13 <@SkyDog_> you gonna answer the question?
14:14 <@SkyDog_> I don't think you should be denied health care at all. I think you should be covered as the next person is, as long as you can pony up the cash for it.
14:14 <@polerin> I was born in CA, which is where my birth cert is from.  According to CA law it is what you present yourself 95% or so of the time (I don't remeber the percentage)
14:14 <@polerin> so the question is NOT as clear cut as you are presenting it
14:14 <@SkyDog_> I asked about TN.
14:14 <@SkyDog_> not CA.
14:14 <@SkyDog_> We're not in CA.
14:15 <@Lissa> it will be legal in TN once we petition the court of CA to have the gender changed on the birth certificate
14:15 <@critch> With reference to laws, they are all screwed up. When dealing with health insurance, it is still going to need to come down to the genetics, are you XX or XY?
14:15 <@polerin> And according to TN it's what's on my birth certificate
14:15 <@polerin> Which I haven't had a chance to change so yes.  Irregardless of that though, being technically truthfull does not meen that you aren't being rude
14:16 <@SkyDog_> I think  you are being obtuse about your choice and how we should react to it.
14:16 <@polerin> critch: it's according to Birth certificate, but it's still not going to matter more than likely because the health insurance is going to take one look at the diagnosis code and spit me right back out
14:17 <@polerin> so it doesn't matter what I am legally, they are screwing me because of a bias in the system
14:17  * critch goes to read backscroll to get caught up with conversation.
14:17 <@polerin> even if you count the surgery and therapy, being trans is far less expensive than many other, many more common disease
14:17 <@Dolemite> Insurance is a business, and they are making decisions based upon whether or not there is any long term profit off of a prospective customer.  You are what they consider to be a definite loss.
14:17 <@polerin> s
14:17 <@SkyDog_> Lemme ask you, what makes your gender? The equipment that you have, or the presence you have?
14:18 <@polerin> Dolemite: yes, I understand about that, but i still retain my ability to be pissed about it
14:18 <@Lissa> it's sure as fuck not the equipment
14:18 <@Dolemite> Gender is a social role.  Sex is a genetic classification.
14:18 <@SkyDog_> Lissa: How do you come to that conclusion?
14:18 <@polerin> SkyDog_: Does it MATTER?  You were being an asshole about it.
14:18 <@Lissa> because my balls are bigger than yours
14:18 <@SkyDog_> Lissa: Everything on you is bigger than mine.
14:18 <@Lissa> obviously not my ego
14:19 <@SkyDog_> I am asking for clarification, and you keep going back to me being rude.
14:19 <@SkyDog_> Lissa: I doubt it.
14:19 <@SkyDog_> so anyway.
14:19 <@Dolemite> How 'bout them Dodgers?
14:19 <@SkyDog_> polerin, so explain it to me. I wanna know
14:19 <@polerin> SkyDog_: So if you were complaining about someone reacting to you in a way you didn't like, does that make it polite for me to jump in and say that it serves you right for being a self-rigtious, manipulative, asshole?
14:19 <@SkyDog_> so gender is your outward appearance, and sex is your equipment?
14:20 <@SkyDog_> manipulative? i was asking for clarification.
14:20 <@polerin> I'm talking about your history.
14:20 <@Dolemite> According to academic studies, Gender is a social role while Sex is a genetic classification.  At least that's how it's presented in Sociology 101.
14:20 <@SkyDog_> my history? Ok, got for it. Lay it out there.
14:20 <@SkyDog_> if this is the direction you wanna take it.
14:20 <@SkyDog_> I was asking for clarification. you wanna go off on a tangent.
14:21 <@polerin> Dolemite: oh don't give me that shit.  Most of those studies were based off of one guy, who's work was later discredited by the revalation that he had been manipulating the subject, who later commited suicide.
14:22 <@polerin> No, I NEVER said that you might be legaly or possibly even technically (depending on your framework) correct.
14:22 <@Dolemite> polerin : Ok, fine.  Let's continue to not have a common vocabulary.  Don't drag me into this shit.
14:22 <@polerin> I said you were being rude.
14:22 <@SkyDog_> If gender is your outward appearance, and sex is the equipment, why make the transition?
14:22 <@SkyDog_> Is it a comfort thing?
14:22 <@polerin> Dolemite: There isn't really a common vocabulary right now if you look at much of the literature
14:22 <@polerin> SkyDog_: again, your dodging
14:23 <@Dolemite> Well if you want to have a discussion without slinging arrows, the people talking need to use a common vocabulary.
14:23 <@SkyDog_> Dodging what? I keep asking you the same questions, and youkeep running around them!
14:23 <@SkyDog_> I'm not trying to say you're wrong! I am just ASKING.
14:23 <@polerin> All I said was that you were being rude by making the very very weighted comment of "Tits on a guy"
14:24 <@Dolemite> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender
14:24 <@SkyDog_> polerin: I apologize for using the term or phrase: "Tits on a guy".
14:25 <@SkyDog_> It's not PC, it's a way of couching an uncomfortable subject.
14:25 <@polerin> Not interested in an apology.  Just understanding.
14:25 <@SkyDog_> Then explain. I'd like to UNDERSTAND..
14:26 <@polerin> rephrase, Understanding of why what you said upset me.
14:26 <@polerin> Understanding of the other?  hmm
14:27 <@polerin> I cannot give you understanding of that.  but I did it becuase it was the right thing for me, to be who I need to be.
14:27 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I understand that.
14:27 <@SkyDog_> Now, answer the other question, if you will.
14:27 <@wizardpc> So anyway...Yes adding a spouse costs me $300/month
14:28 <@SkyDog_> wizardpc: That sucks man.
14:28 <@polerin> wizardpc: Private insurance, or to add into group?
14:28 <@Dolemite> wizardpc : Time to apply for CoverTN!
14:28 <@wizardpc> but I think it's spouse/family
14:28 <@SkyDog_> Is she your spouse yet?
14:28 <@wizardpc> in about 48 hours she will be
14:28 <@polerin> oh really?  Congrats!
14:28 <@Dolemite> Do you get complimentary reach-arounds with every doctor visit for that price?
14:28 <@SkyDog_> Ah. My son was about $120 a year before to add him to my insurance.
14:29 <@oddball> damn man, is there a reason that you don't want to be added to hers?
14:29 <@SkyDog_> I would think that your wife wouldn't be that expensive.
14:29 <@Lissa> you can't apply for CoverTN...they'd deny you
14:29 <@SkyDog_> I would hope so.
14:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, most of us make too much to be on CoverTN
14:29 <@wizardpc> oddball: she doesnt have insurance
14:29 <@Lissa> and have insurance within the past year
14:29 <@critch> Dolemite: That doesn't sound all that odd, Group insurance here was about $220 per guy and work split the cost. Remember women in general have more natural things that happen to them to need higher rates, and the company doesn't always cover half of that.
14:30 <@oddball> ah, good reason
14:30 <@Dolemite> Yes, well, I was being facetious.  I would just hope that with as many people screwing the program over that there are, at least someone we know could get something out of it.
14:30 <@polerin> by "other question" I assume you meen "if gender is on the outside and sex is the biological primary, there is no reason.  Gender isn't a role, it isn't how society views you.  One branch of thought, as dole pointed out does say it is, but trans people really challange that.
14:30 <@Lissa> unfortunately, insurance is a joke these days
14:30 <@polerin> and I dont' meen we say "That's not right"  I meen that our existance challanges that
14:30 <@wizardpc> our group insurance is 300/person
14:31 <@Dolemite> Women also have a tendency to see the doctor earlier when something is out of whack, than men, so they have better preventative statistics, so I'd say that evens out.
14:31 <@wizardpc> my company pays $230/mo for me
14:31 <@wizardpc> and NOTHING towards anyone else I might add
14:31 <@SkyDog_> polerin: Ok, can you do me a favor, please expand on that, because I feel that the statement cancels itself.
14:32 <@wizardpc> now, I do have to say that I voluntarily have the most expensive plan possible
14:32 <@polerin> SkyDog_: This is the discussion I didn't really have time for :/
14:32 <@SkyDog_> Ok, that's fine.
14:32 <@polerin> SkyDog_: I'm trying to get unit testing to work and I'm having to fight with it
14:32 <@SkyDog_> give it hell.
14:33 <@SkyDog_> wizardpc: insurance is a necessary evil, and it sucks ass. Hopefully you won't need it, but you gotta have the fucking stuff. What a rip.
14:33 <@critch> I haven't had health insurance now for nearly 2 years
14:33 <@SkyDog_> Vandy doesn't have the best insurance, but it's not too bad.
14:34 <@wizardpc> well I always get the stuff that is 100% over the initial deductible
14:34 <@SkyDog_> critch: Really? what if you lay that bike down man, are you self-insured?
14:34 <@wizardpc> because my dad's FIRST surgery was $250,000
14:34 <@critch> nope, it will just suck a ton
14:34 <@SkyDog_> That is one reason I would have to have insurance if I bought a bike.
14:34 <@polerin> yeah no shit.
14:34 <@SkyDog_> That, and the ulcer from worrying about it.
14:34 <@Dolemite> medical is typically covered as part of auto/motorcycle insurance in the event of an accident
14:35 <@Dolemite> you can also bump up your coverage for that relatively inexpensively
14:35 <@critch> It flashed through my mind the other day when the guy in front of me lost his nerve in a corner and locked it down. Forced me to lock mine down and swing way out into the other lane on a blind curve.
14:35 <@wizardpc> and an 80/20 plan would be cheaper up front, but in my dad's case would have cost $50,000
14:35 <@critch> Dolemite: motorcycle insurance rarely covers medical
14:36 <@wizardpc> we are actually thinking of switching to an HSA
14:36 <@critch> I've been wanting to do a HSA but they only let you do that if you have insurance.
14:36 <@SkyDog_> critch: Man, please be careful. Get insurance of some kind if you can.
14:36 <@wizardpc> HSA's cover NOTHING up to the first $5,000 per year, but cover everything after that
14:37 <@wizardpc> critch: yes you have to get a high-deductible health plan (HDHP) to go with that as well
14:37 <@critch> ummm, check that again. HSA is just a pretax savings account for use on medical bills, intended to cover a high deductible
14:37 <@wizardpc> yes thats correct
14:38 <@wizardpc> its easier to type hsa than hsa w/ hdhp
14:38 <@wizardpc> :D
14:38 <@critch> Well, if we push again on my boss, we should get health insurance again. Especially with my coworker now needing it as well.
14:39 <@SkyDog_> critch: But business is booming lately, isnt't it?
14:40 <@critch> it isn't always a question of money. We lost insurance because I was the only one on a group policy, and 1 does not make a group.
14:40 <@SkyDog_> Ah.
14:40 <@critch> By myself, I am uninsurable due to my weight.
14:40 <@SkyDog_> Fuck.
14:40 <@critch> All the plans had a cut off at 300lbs
14:41 <@critch> Before Dem left, I was hovering at 306-312lbs
14:41 <@SkyDog_> But bacon tastes good, porkchops taste good...
14:41 <@Dolemite> You know what goes good with bacon?
14:41 <@Dolemite> MORE BACON.
14:42 <@critch> Bacon isn't what hurts me. It is being asked to go out to eat with all my friends. I realized the other day that I hadn't done dishes at the house in over 4 months. I had just enough to fill the dishwasher.
14:43 <@SkyDog_> Those were the fuzzy plates, right? :)
14:43 <@critch> naw, I don't leave that much on the plate to be fuzzy. Plus most of the dishes were from my kick of eating jello when I wanted to munch instead of something worse.
14:44 <@SkyDog_> I can't imagine you scarfing down a plate of jello.
14:44 <@critch> A bowl full though was yummy.
14:44 <@Corydon76-dig> sugarfree jello?
14:44 <@SkyDog_> haha!
14:44 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: yep.
14:44 <@SkyDog_> Fills the stomach up, and is tasty.. Well, sorta.
14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Good, because the sugary jello adds up calories quick
14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Their serving sizes aren't really all that much
14:45 <@critch> well, one package would just fill my bowls, and I would eat a full bowl at a time.
14:50 <@Dolemite> watch me wiggle
14:50 <@Dolemite> see me jiggle
14:50 <@Dolemite> er...
14:50 <@Dolemite> s/me/it/g
14:51 <@wizardpc> oh, and the IRS sucks too
14:52 <@wizardpc> "Oh you're getting married? And she has a job? We're going to need to take MORE of your money. kthxbye"
14:52 <@critch> just was invited out for dinner tomorrow night. damn, and at a place I don't care for.
14:52 < ware> BLAH!
14:52 < ware> TOO MANY FUCKING LAPTOPS TO SETUP
14:52 <@wizardpc> critch: no is an acceptable answer to the question
14:52 <@Dolemite> wizardpc : But then he would have to run the dishwasher again
14:53 <@critch> yeah, I know. But I want to visit with these people. Plus, we will be going to Starbucks afterwords. Some hot single chicks work at the starbucks by my house.
14:54 <@wizardpc> mmmm starbucks.....700 calories of steamy goodness
14:54 <@Dolemite> Doesn't even compare to the Baskin Robbins Heath Bar Milkshake
14:54 <@critch> unforunatly, what the chicks like fixing me is probably higher than that, and cold.
14:54 <@oddball> bah, go to a real coffee house, not McCoffee
14:55 <@Dolemite> Baskin Robbin.s Large Heath Bar Shake (32 oz)
14:55 <@Dolemite> 2,310 calories
14:55 <@Dolemite> 266 g sugar
14:55 <@Dolemite> 108 g fat (64 g saturated)
14:55 <@wizardpc> SHIT!
14:55 <@Dolemite> 73: The number of ingredients that go into this milkshake.
14:55 <@Dolemite> 66: The number of teaspoons of sugar this drink contains.
14:55 <@Dolemite> 11: The number of Heath Bars you would have to eat to equal the number of calories found in one Baskin Robbins Large Heath Bar Shake.
14:55 <@Dolemite> 8-12: The average number of minutes it takes to consume this drink.
14:55 <@Dolemite> 240: The number of minutes you.d need to spend on a treadmill burning it off, running at a moderate pace.
14:55 <@SkyDog_> oddball: The one at vandy puts more syrup in their coffee than starbucks.
14:56 <@oddball> critch: it is acceptable to say "I'd love to hang out with you guys, but I don't like that place, can we go somewhere else?"
14:56 <@wizardpc> hmmm...should I go to the defects meeting?
14:56 <@oddball> SkyDog_: which one at vandy?
14:56 <@wizardpc> im gonna be gone for 10 days....
14:56 <@Dolemite> The one in The Commons
14:56 <@Dolemite> next door
14:56 <@oddball> ah
14:57 <@Dolemite> oddball : They also buy their beans from Bongo, so they don't taste like burnt Starbucks crap
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14:57 <@oddball> tasty!
14:57 <@SkyDog_> wizardpc: Pack one of those Z-tech kids laptops. It will not be the same thing, but it will curb the cravings.
14:58 <@oddball> wizardpc: I'd let you borrow my eee PC, but I doubt it will arrive in time. (tracker claims it's still in Chicago)
14:58 <@Dolemite> You going to the space center while you're down there?
14:58 <@Dolemite> A little geeky field trip can make up for the laptop ban!
15:00  * someninjamaster yawns
15:01 <@SkyDog_> oddball: Which one do you have?
15:01 <@wizardpc> Dolemite: we just might.
15:02 <@oddball> I'm waiting on a black eee PC 900(linux flavor of course)
15:02 <@wizardpc> but yesterday she bought TWO boxes of trojans, so I might be too tired
15:02 <@Dolemite> My sister lives between Melbourne Beach and Vero Beach
15:02 <@oddball> Naienko has a 4gb 701 and loves it
15:03 <@SkyDog_> I have a 4gb surf. Not bad, but my hands are quite large for the keyboard.
15:03 <@oddball> cool
15:03 <@SkyDog_> I have the IBM S30's which work alot better for my hands, and have some geek cred, but the eee pc is nice and fast.
15:04 <@SkyDog_> the 900 is nice. I am envious.
15:04 <@oddball> I figured the larger screen and 20gb drive would be nice.  Especially if I decide to ditch Xandros.
15:04 <@oddball> early b-day present from my mom.  We're also thinking about getting a couple for my 8 year old nephews.
15:05 <@SkyDog_> Nice.
15:05 <@SkyDog_> I like running backtrack on it more than Xandros.
15:06 <@brimstone> 4gb 701 is too small i think
15:06 <@brimstone> add an external monitor and usb keyboard, and you're set
15:06 <@brimstone> hardy runs on it, but with not a lot of space to spare
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15:07 <@oddball> Well, if I'm not worried about space, I have that 17" HP laptop with a fullsize kayboard including numpad.
15:07 <@SkyDog_> Well, they are sorta the first to push that form factor and price range. I know it's not perfect, but it's a good start.
15:08 <@brimstone> i need to order my usb drive for it still
15:08 <@SkyDog_> I need to get a larger SD card.
15:08 <@brimstone> I-MOD managed to get a usb port soldered underneigh next to the ram
15:09 <@oddball> The only other thing really on the market right now is the HP mini-note, and I think the layout of the mouse buttons would bug the hell out of me.  The MSI Wind might give it a run for its money though.
15:09 <@oddball> oh, have you seen the touchscreen mods?
15:10 <@SkyDog_> THought about getting one.
15:10 <@SkyDog_> I bought an external CD, and a few different cases for it.
15:10 <@SkyDog_> and a small wireless mouse.
15:11 <@oddball> Yeah, I'm going to have to pick up an optical drive of somesort for it.
15:11 <@SkyDog_> I got one off ebay for $20.
15:11 <@oddball> nice
15:12 <@SkyDog_> I've been needing to get one for some time.
15:12 <@SkyDog_> I have a dell floppy drive that has a USB port on it, so I modified it.
15:12 <@oddball> cool
15:12 <@SkyDog_> Now I have an external floppy if I need it... Not that I ever will.
15:13 <@oddball> hey, it could happen.  I've needed one at work a couple times.
15:14 <@SkyDog_> True. I just don't need to carry it in my bag. :) That thing weighs 31 pounds typically.
15:14 <@ladymerlin> but youve got everythign in that bag :)
15:15 <@SkyDog_> I know. That is the problem. There are two laptops, media players, GPS, batteries, etc.
15:15 <@SkyDog_> I need to get out of Tech mode, and get into hacker mode again.
15:16 <@oddball> heh, yeah... that's part of why I want the eee PC.  I got tired of hauling my laptop around.
15:16 <@SkyDog_> I have a dell 14' vostro, and it's not too bad. I can boot Backtrack and play with it, but typically it's my production box.
15:17 <@SkyDog_> I don't wanna get another 14" to put backtrack or ubuntu on, because of weight.
15:17 <@SkyDog_> "Tonto, I should get your a mule." "No Kemosabe, Mule to heavy."
15:17 <@SkyDog_> s/your/you
15:19 <@oddball> I think it's funny that Naienko now feels that a kindle would be surpufalous now that she has an eee PC
15:21 <@Corydon76-dig> superfluous?
15:21 <@oddball> hey, I took a stab at it
15:21 <@SkyDog_> I figured it out.
15:21 <@oddball> I failed... but I took a stab at it
15:21 <@polerin> I totaly want a tablet for extended reading
15:22 <@polerin> kindle might work
15:22 <@polerin> but...
15:22 <@SkyDog_> polerin: I dunno. I have an HP. You might wanna use one for a while before buying one. Your neck will tend to hurt alot, and I think the precision on the screen isn't up to the par you'd like for graphics. Just my .02.
15:23 <@SkyDog_> I let a client use one, and two weeks later, he handed it back. he had neck problems from carrying it and trying to work with it.
15:23 <@critch> SkyDog_: has HC come up with a plumbing expert inhouse yet?
15:23 <@polerin> not worried about graphics really on it.
15:23 <@SkyDog_> critch: I think I am the culprit on that one.
15:23 <@oddball> SkyDog_: you mean a pda?
15:23 <@polerin> this would be more along the lines of lounging on a couch with a notebook and reading spec's
15:23 <@SkyDog_> polerin: cool. then it might be the way to go.
15:24 <@SkyDog_> polerin: Making the leap to digital is closer, but I don't think it's there quite yet.
15:24 <@SkyDog_> I still like paper.
15:24 <@critch> SkyDog_: do you know some of the codes with regards to what can be drained without being hooked up to sewer?
15:24 <@SkyDog_> Um, no. What are you wanting to drain?
15:24 <@polerin> I'd almost rather drop the extra for a seperate computer, or sorta extra for a cintiq
15:24 <@polerin> ...  gods I want a cintiq
15:24 <@polerin> hehe
15:24 <@critch> A small hand sink in my garage. It sits below the sewer lines though.
15:24 <@polerin> I'd rather wait till I could get the 20' though
15:25 <@critch> I was thinking of playing a slick one and hooking it up to the airconditioning drain line.
15:25 <@SkyDog_> Ah, I have a stainless steel sink that may come our way, and I am fiberglassing a huge sink for general use.
15:25 <@oddball> critch: giving up on ever getting a car in there?
15:25 <@SkyDog_> Ah, you're saying in YOUR home.
15:26 <@SkyDog_> oddball: I don't think cars are ever allowed in there, unless they are on the way to becoming a couch.
15:26 <@oddball> heh.... I've seen it happen... once
15:26 <@critch> oddball: no, I could still get a car in there. I just think it might be easier for me to switch back to crystal light or similar drinks if I kept it in the beer fridge downstairs instead of upstairs.
15:26 <@oddball> wait.... I'm not sure it was completely in
15:26 <@oddball> Ah, gotcha
15:26 <@SkyDog_> critch: I dunno man. A pump would cure that problem, but then you have to worry about solids and such.
15:26 <@critch> My BIL had his car in my garage for a while. I wasn't happy.
15:27 <@critch> SkyDog_: that is why I am refering to it as a hand sink, no solids. If I had some more time and thoughts, I might want to build a bathroom downstairs and then worry about solids.
15:27 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: I'm surprised he didn't find his car with a new hood ornament welded on
15:28 <@critch> It was getting repaired. It seems we repaired it well enough to drive home and die.
15:29 <@SkyDog_> critch: Then you could use a pump similar to the ones that they use for A/C drains, and push it up to the sewer lines. You could easily overcome the pump though, depending on the flow rates.
15:29 <@critch> overcome or overwhelm
15:29 <@SkyDog_> polerin: the cintiq is not real. no way something that cool could exist. It's fabricated in the videos I just watched.
15:29 <@SkyDog_> critch: over something.
15:31 <@polerin> I've actually used the 12 inch
15:31 <@polerin> it's absolutly bad assed for my style of drawing
15:31 <@polerin> though I have to get over the ability to erase my ink
15:31 <@polerin> because it slows me down and looks odd
15:32 <@polerin> critch: well if the pump gets overwhelmed, have it pump off a resevior
15:33 <@SkyDog_> polerin: Good point.
15:34 <@polerin> that way it can just empty at it's own pace, and as long as you don't overwhelm the resevior as well you should be ok
15:34 <+scoot> anyone have business dsl
15:34 <@oddball> critch: so, he ended up having to ditch the POS?
15:34 <@polerin> course, that might be a pain in the ass enough to just get a better pump
15:34 <@critch> oddball: I think so. I don't usually keep up with what fucked up car he is driving, or why it died
15:35 <@oddball> heh... maybe he can buy the Stanza after NotLarry_'s wife is done with it.
15:35 <@oddball> at least, I think that's what shadowmoss told me happened to it.
15:35 <@critch> oh hell, this is funny. http://www.joeydevilla.com/2008/06/11/gummi-lighthouses-when-candy-design-goes-terribly-hilariously-wrong/
15:36 <@oddball> that's... unfortunate
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15:37 <@Corydon76-dig> It's... it's.. it's... A ROCKET SHIP!!
15:39 <@polerin> absolutly great movie corydon
15:39 <@polerin> love it.
15:41 <@Evilpig> red rocket?
15:41 <@polerin> no..  crap.. what's the name of the movie
15:42 <@polerin> Edward norton, Robin williams..
15:42 <@polerin> about kids shows
15:42 <@brimstone> get smarty?
15:43 <@brimstone> Death to Smoochy
15:43 <@polerin> death to smoochie
15:43 <@brimstone> man, way off
15:45 < booker404> the start of my NOC http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1766/dscf0102ht9.jpg
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16:02 <@wizardpc> pretty
16:03 < booker404> it's amazing how many people walked by while I was pulling wires and such... never looking up
16:03 < booker404> and even after I had them mounted for a few hours, I had a few people stop in my doorway to chat, without looking up...
16:04 < booker404> it's a start anyway... certainly an improvement
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17:11 <@Evilpig> revenge of the richard.
17:12 <@Evilpig> just got back from looking over the company we are buying out and I have to start servicing.  and their last network guy fucked the place up good.
17:12 <@Evilpig> he took damn near every service and made it into a virtual server using "virtualpc"
17:13 <@SkyDog_> Um Ouch.
17:14 <@Evilpig> yeah.  and the best part... he's the guy we fired for being a douche
17:15 <@SkyDog_> He left your company only to go fuck up another. That's good.
17:16 <@Evilpig> he only worked for us for about two months.  and thought he was worth more money.
17:16 <@Evilpig> the fucker made an excuse to leave our tech meeting early one day. and everyone else was like wtf, who do you think you are?
17:17 <@Evilpig> he was fired the next day
17:17 <@Evilpig> Dementia met him I think
17:18 <@Evilpig> wtf?  macaroni and cheese crackers?
17:19 <@ladymerlin> um eww
17:19 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Had them before. Not all they are cracked up to be.
17:23 <@Evilpig> was that supposed to be a joke?  cause I just made a really bad hurt face there
17:24 <@SkyDog_> You talking about the Kraft Macaroni and Cheese crackers? Had em. Not a fan.
17:28 <@brimstone> ug, cracked crackers
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17:28 <@Evilpig> oh see i'm not the only one that thought you were making a bad pun
17:30 <@SkyDog_> Of course it was a bad pun. would you expect anything else?
17:30 <@brimstone> a good pun
17:30 <@brimstone> maybe that's just me
17:30 <@SkyDog_> I gave those up.
17:31 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: stick to being the straight man
17:31 <@SkyDog_> Point taken.
17:34 <@brimstone> anyone gonna get http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0470294191/downandoutint-20 ?
17:38 <@Evilpig> neat
18:00 <@Lissa> JDH020945
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20:33 < geoffscoffee> evenin'
20:41 < astralsin1> hiya
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20:43 < geoffscoffee> quiet night
20:44 < AstralSin> yeah
20:44 < AstralSin> people and their damn social lives
20:46 <@SkyDog_> Fuckers.
20:46 <@SkyDog_> I mean, yeah. I was just passing thru. Ahem.
20:50 < AstralSin> uh huh
20:53 <@sdodson> I think anyone suggesting an Aeron chair for comfort has never actually sat in one for an extended period of time.
20:54 < AstralSin> never heard of it
20:54 <@sdodson> http://www.sit4less.com/
20:55 < geoffscoffee> aeron chairs...$$$$$$$$$$$
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21:10 < remofor1> holy crap
21:10 < remofor1> i just caught a snake
21:10 < remofor1> in my house
21:10 < remofor1> ive got him in a pillow case with the end tied shut
21:11 < AstralSin> awesome
21:11 < AstralSin> what kind is it
21:12 < remofor1> dont know exactly
21:12 < remofor1> black and yellow
21:12 < AstralSin> hmmm
21:12 < remofor1> maybe a racer
21:12 < AstralSin> where are you?
21:12 < remofor1> madison
21:12 < remofor1> nashville
21:12 < geoffscoffee> how long?
21:13 < remofor1> 4'
21:13 < remofor1> not giant
21:13 < geoffscoffee> stop wrestling with your snake
21:13 < AstralSin> its not poisonous, the only poisonous snakes around are rattlers, copperheads and moccasins, afaik
21:13 < remofor1> yeah
21:13 < AstralSin> put it outside, they help eat mice and shit
21:13 < geoffscoffee> put it out back, it will be happy
21:13 < remofor1> if it had looked like one of those id have let it alone
21:13 < remofor1> and got a gun
21:13 < AstralSin> snakes are good
21:14 < remofor1> i didnt hurt it
21:14 < remofor1> i gently put it in the pillow case
21:14 < remofor1> its fine
21:14 <@Feltenix> no it isn't, you put it in a pillow case; I doubt that meets any definition of fine for a snake
21:15 < AstralSin> nah, pillowcases are fine for snakes, they don't hurt the animal
21:15 < geoffscoffee> that's what the croc hunter woud do
21:15 < geoffscoffee> 4'! really?
21:29  * I-MOD kicks Feltenix 
21:30 <@I-MOD> probably better for the snake than picking it up by the head or tail
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21:40 <@nachoguy> ahoy
21:43 <@nachoguy> no one  is alive?
21:44 <@I-MOD> nope
21:44 <@I-MOD> all dead
21:45 <@nachoguy> ugh
21:45 <@nachoguy> I've got like two hours to kill
21:46 <@nachoguy> I went out drinking with co-workers, and by buddy isn't coherent/upright enough to ride the train
21:46 <@I-MOD> wow
21:46 <@I-MOD> megatoasted
21:47 <@nachoguy> oh yeah
21:47 <@nachoguy> next train leaves in like 10 minutes, but he is NOT ready for that
21:48 <@nachoguy> I'm going to try to catch teh 11:40, but failing that, I'll have to get someone to drive up and get me
21:48 <@nachoguy> that's going to be peachy
21:49 <@sdodson> NACHOGUY!
21:50 <@nachoguy> hey sdsodson
21:50 <@nachoguy> how goes?
21:51 <@sdodson> not too bad
21:53 <@nachoguy> that's good
21:54 <@nachoguy> Haven't talked to you in a while.  what've you been working on?
21:54 <@nachoguy> still SAN stuff?
21:54 < ware> WOOHOO
21:54 < ware> HELL YEAH
21:55 <@nachoguy> what's up ware?
22:00 < ware> nuffin
22:00 <@sdodson> nachoguy: My POs for my virt platform equipment went in today, yay!
22:00 < ware> scratchin my balls
22:00 <@sdodson> So over the next few days I need to figure out how to cluster xen
22:00 < ware> asking why i didnt skim more than i did thru SkyDog_'s book of an email
22:01 <@SkyDog_> Thanks for the vote of confidence there buddy.
22:03 < ware> im not in any drama and most ppl dont take me seriously enough to care, but i dont like theres foobar amongst friends
22:03 < ware> but it seemed like a good email!
22:03 <@sdodson> uh ohz
22:03 <@sdodson> ware i miss you!
22:03 < ware> sdodson: <3 *hugs* *ponies*
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22:04 < ware> lol
22:04 < ware> freaked him out eh?
22:05 < ware> my fckn
22:05 < ware> buy.com order still hasnt come in
22:05 < ware> pos.  i want my 8gb's!
22:05 <@nachoguy> sdodson, are you planning to have some sort of front end for all of your clustered xen boxes?
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22:11 <@sdodson> nachoguy: No, just failing non clustered vms between dom0 hosts
22:14 <@nachoguy> ahh
22:14 <@nachoguy> still cool
22:19 < ware> think ima go campout in the backyard
22:19 < ware> cause its nice out and i wanna build a fire
22:26 <@nachoguy> woo, an hour left until I have to drag a drunk two blocks to the train station
22:27 < ware> haha
22:28 <@sdodson> ware is in chicago?
22:34 <@nachoguy> nah
22:34 <@nachoguy> no chairs are going to be harmed
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22:55 <@nachoguy> ugh, no train ride
22:59 <@nachoguy> any suggestiosn for transporting drunk people in a car for about 4-5 minutes?
23:00 <@nachoguy> I'm bringing a plastic bag formed around a paper bag (so it doesn't close up) and putting a blanket down
23:00 <@nachoguy> he can't have much more to throw up anyway
23:06 <@nachoguy> c'mon, no advice?
23:22 <@rhia> cab
23:23 <@sdodson> http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/
23:24 <@nachoguy> nah, a cabbie would never take this guy home
23:24 <@nachoguy> he's basically unconcious at this point
23:24 <@rhia> lock him in the bathroom and go to bed
23:24 <@nachoguy> My wife is driving down to pick us up ( don't think this guy would make it on a train)
23:25 <@nachoguy> we're in the office
23:25 <@rhia> even better <g>
23:25 <@nachoguy> I can't leave him here, that would be BAD
23:25 <@rhia> did you pour the booze down his throat?
23:26 <@nachoguy> nope.  I was there when it happened
23:26 <@nachoguy> he's a friend, not just some guy I work with
23:27 <@rhia> sigh - take photos and make him clean the car tomorrow
23:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Stick batteries in his ass and take photos
23:30 <@Corydon76-dig> You just have to ask... What Would Ware Do?
23:31 <@nachoguy> good friend, not someone I would sodomize with electrical power sources
23:31 <@nachoguy> Rhia, if he makes a mess in the car, it's on him
23:31 <@brimstone> aww, but they're low voltages...
23:31 <@nachoguy> I'm sure he'll make good
23:31 <@nachoguy> but he's coming around to "coherent" and can't have much else to throw up
23:32 <@nachoguy> I think we're kinda out of the woods
23:32 <@nachoguy> I say this now, before I actually try to transport him
23:32 <@sdodson> I puke the morning after if at all.
23:32 <@nachoguy> I've only puked once because of alcohol
23:32 <@Corydon76-dig> ER still might be a wise move
23:32 <@nachoguy> I'm missing parts of that day
23:33 <@nachoguy> Corydon, if he hadn't started talking to me just now, I'd consider it
23:33 <@nachoguy> as it stands, I think he'll be fine, just with a raging hangover tomorrow
23:33 <@Corydon76-dig> He could be too drunk to puke, in which case you only have a short period to get him medical attention
23:33 <@nachoguy> oh, he's been doing a fine job of puking
23:34 <@sdodson> make him drink a glass of water before bed
23:34 <@nachoguy> he's got a bottle of gatorade right now
23:35 <@nachoguy> hah, the boss just called tomorrow off
23:35 <@nachoguy> should be a good Friday for me
23:36 <@sdodson> man, since bojangles caught on fire my diet has improved considerably
23:37 <@brimstone> one up there caught fire?
23:37 <@brimstone> one down here caught fire a year ago
23:37 <@sdodson> brimstone: omg, how did you survive?
23:37 <@brimstone> tofu and bean sprouts
23:38 <@sdodson> brimstone: oh no, you're vegetarian?
23:39 <@nachoguy> bojangles?  is that your cat?
23:40 <@nachoguy> well, the wife just called, time to get this show on the road
23:40 <@nachoguy> later guys
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