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00:14 <@sdodson> http://www.blackberrycool.com/2006/04/28/001691/
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01:57 <@aestetix> anyone home?
02:00 <+coil> no
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07:01 < ware> wooohoooo naked ware!
07:01  * ware dances around
07:01 < ware> err wrong channel. happy friday.
07:06  * GodFix thinks ware has had too many stoner moments
07:07 < ware> :D
07:08 < ware> always 4 da lulz
07:08 <@GodFix> I'm just keeping my mouth shut about stuff I've done
07:09 < ware> well i like my brown pants
07:09 <@ladymerlin> wheee
07:09 <@ladymerlin> wow i didnt need that image in my head this morning
07:09 <@ladymerlin> thanks ware
07:09 < ware> haha anytime
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07:19 <@Shadow404> ladymerlin sdodson ware: forward that email if you want to anyone, more the merrier
07:35 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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07:53 < ware> http://www.aspca.org/images/content/pagebuilder/575878.jpg
07:53 < ware> im not that big on the email
07:53 < ware> if animals want to be in the circus, then they should its gonna be a tough life with all the moving and performing!
07:53 < ware> :P
07:54 <@Shadow404> asshole
07:54 <@Shadow404> :)
07:56 < ware> err they should know*
08:01 <@Shadow404> yeah
08:06 < ware> h0 sn4p
08:06 < ware> 18.2gb exchange store ftl
08:06 < ware> apparently 18gb is the limit
08:09 < Curbob> finally did something with my Con Shirts http://www.flickr.com/photos/richandsteph/2535630819/sizes/l/
08:11 <@Shadow404> nice, very nice
08:11 < Curbob> wife got tired of them all laying around
08:12 <@GodFix> ware: what version of exchange?
08:12 < ware> 2000sp2
08:12 < ware> i think
08:13 <@GodFix> I think the limit is actually 16GB on Std
08:13 <@GodFix> with 2003 it is
08:13 <@GodFix> Enterprise has no "rela" limit
08:13 < ware> its configurable up to 50GB
08:13 <@GodFix> s/rela/real
08:15 <@GodFix> I think that's for maint though
08:15 <@GodFix> for when it hits 16GB
08:15 <@GodFix> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=813051
08:15 < ware> v6.5
08:15 < ware> so its 2003sp2 my baf
08:15 < ware> bad(
08:15 <@GodFix> ah
08:15 < ware> FUCK BAD*
08:16 <@GodFix> still 16GB unless it's Ent edition
08:16  * brimstone is Ent edition
08:17 <@GodFix> http://www.petri.co.il/change_store_size_limits_ex2003_sp2.htm
08:25 < ware> someone up'd it to 18gb then previously
08:25 < ware> either way, exchange box went over limit at 5am
08:26 < ware> After installing Exchange Server 2003 Service Pack 2, the default size limit for each Exchange database is 18 GB
08:26 < ware> :D
08:26 < ware> and 8TB is the limit for enterprise
08:26 < ware> thats a big ass db
08:28 <@aestetix> Man.
08:28 <@aestetix> How do people think that the fucking Teletubbies even compares to classic Sesame Street/
08:29 <@aestetix> Some of these episodes would be great on acid.
08:30 < ware> teletubbies are weird and full of homosexual inuendos
08:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Asexual innuendo.
08:32 <@Corydon76-dig> The teletubbies are all asexual
08:33 < ware> they homosexually attempt to reproduce off set, in the suits.
08:34 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you're never going to be whole until you sleep with Tim
08:34 <@aestetix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr5er4ueWBQ
08:34 <@aestetix> dude. acid.
08:37 < ware> tims turning into a little bitch
08:37 < ware> cause his gf has him by the balls with a dildo in his ass
08:38 < ware> hes a slobby son of a bitch too. fucker loves to cook and make drinks but hates cleaning up
08:38 < ware> im gettin sick of it
08:38 <@Dolemite> Ah, the joys of having a roomie
08:38 <@Dolemite> with a girlfriend
08:39 <@Corydon76-dig> or a boyfriend
08:39 <@aestetix> Just get a fleshlight
08:39 <@aestetix> So much easier to maintain.
08:41 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: you watching the local news?
08:41 <@aestetix> no
08:41 <@Corydon76-dig> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080530/ts_nm/newyork_crane_dc_3
08:41 <@aestetix> oh jfc
08:41 <@Corydon76-dig> another crane collapse
08:42 <@aestetix> That sucks
08:43 < ware> Dolemite: im starting to hate it
08:43 < ware> she cleans tho
08:43 <@Dolemite> Oh, well then that helps
08:43 <@Dolemite> but still
08:43 < ware> i want to buy a house in the next couple years
08:43 <@Dolemite> You agree to share a place with one person, then they bring in another...
08:44 < ware> yeah that was a little shitty
08:44 < ware> but turned out for the better, cause i wont live with just tim cause hes a slob
08:44 <@Dolemite> been there, done that
08:44 <@Dolemite> had a roomie in Atlanta that got his girlfriend pregnant 2 months after we signed the lease
08:45 < ware> granted my room isnt always spick and span, but i dont leave plates of leftovers on the table for 3 days
08:45 <@Dolemite> she moved in and I had to live with a 6'2" tall pregnant redhead
08:45 <@aestetix> buy a house?
08:45 <@aestetix> ware: next thing you'll wanna get married
08:45 < ware> or the kitchen in a cooking mess in the kitchen for a week
08:45 < ware> earliest ill get married is 27
08:45 < ware> ~5 years
08:46 <@aestetix> you have to find a guy you can stand first
08:46 < ware> Dolemite: sounds crazy
08:46 < ware> aestetix: inorite. you broke my heart and i dont think ill ever love another man
08:46 < ware> err boy*
08:46 <@aestetix> ware: well you sucked in bed
08:46 <@aestetix> oh btw
08:46 <@aestetix> I FAKED IT
08:47 < ware> *runs off crying histerically*
08:49 < ware> now that thats out of the way
09:15 <@oddball> god damnit... couldn't Paetec at least mix the hold music so that it doesn't sound like someone's picking up when the "We're sorry you're on hold" message comes through.
09:16 <@Shadow404> yeah, i've done that a few times
09:16 <@Shadow404> another lec that has bad hold music has to be vz
09:16 <@Shadow404> vz sucks anyway
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09:28 <@oddball> and yay! Verizon has transfered me 4 times now!  They have no clue which number I was supposed to dial!
09:29 <@Dolemite> "42"
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09:32 <@Shadow404> oddball: sigh, ive been dealing with them in sje for the past 2 days
09:33 <@Shadow404> my ticket has finally gone to the chronic circuit dept.
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09:36 <@Dolemite> they're smoking your ticket?
09:37 <@Shadow404> heh, it would probably fet fixed quicker if they did
09:37 <@Shadow404> *get
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09:41 < ware> bong it up
09:42 < ware> iim fckn tired of being the spyware monkey
09:42 < ware> no one else here seems to be able to remove it correctly
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09:44 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: R.I.P. Robert Lynn Asprin | The Last HOPE, July 18-20,2008 http://www.thelasthope.org | RIP - Harvey Corman, comedian extraordinaire
09:45 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: R.I.P. Robert Lynn Asprin | The Last HOPE, July 18-20,2008 http://www.thelasthope.org | RIP - Harvey Korman, comedian extraordinaire
09:45 <@Dolemite> I missed the chance to see him and Tim Conway in Vegas a few years back. :(
09:51 <@Shadow404> hmm, interesting question that has sparked some debate at work.
09:51 <@aestetix> is Shadow404 gay
09:51 <@Shadow404> lawl
09:52 <@aestetix> incidentally scotchick started it
09:52 <@Shadow404> are you more likely to getting hacked if you server uses less well known services or by using the most popular ones
09:52 <@aestetix> He could only get it up when watching ads for the marines
09:53 <@Mirage> Just don't run any services, and unplug the box..should be safe
09:53 <@Shadow404> Mirage: heh, not an option, but thats a good answer for the debate
09:53 <@Shadow404> for example, one of the topics was
09:54 <@Shadow404> if you use apache or something like abyss for http server
09:55 <@Shadow404> i argued since there is more attention on apache cause it is the more popular server, it is more likely to have a known vulnerability
09:55 <@Mirage> I'd say it all depends on the quality track record of the company.  Some are more known for vulnerabilities, etc.  Though arguably, the more people there are running the software, the more likely problems will be found (and hopefully corrected)
09:55 <@Shadow404> yeah, thats what i basically said
09:55 <@Shadow404> just curious what everyones idea is in channel
10:02 < ware> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Stupid-Secretary-WTF.aspx
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10:09 < ware> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/30/1333210&from=rss
10:09 < ware> fckn rediculous
10:12 <@Shadow404> wow, sad
10:12 <@Shadow404> just a bit of duct tape over the camera and wala
10:12 <@Shadow404> privacy
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10:20 < ware> Shadow404: til an attendant comes back and removes it
10:20 < ware> then youve already flagged yourself
10:20 < ware> especially if you do it again
10:20 <@Shadow404> heh, sure
10:22 <@I-MOD> so many douchebags on the internet...i search for "disable low battery beep razr", i get 100 different posts asking that same question, and getting 100 different responses that say "why don't you just charge it" even when they said it lasts for 2+ days on low battery and they'd rather not
10:23 <@tzanger> heh
10:23 <@Shadow404> I-MOD: why don't you just charge it?
10:23 <@tzanger> you can't disable it on motorola phones
10:23 <@tzanger> I have an L6 that does the same thing
10:23 <@tzanger> you might try putting it to silent ring (not vibe)
10:23 <@tzanger> might help
10:23 <@Shadow404> tzanger: why don't you just charge it?
10:23 <@I-MOD> i can delete the fucking beep file from teh phones filesystem though....
10:23 <@tzanger> I am actually pretty good about keeping my phone charged.  My wife, on the ohter hand
10:23 <@Shadow404> I-MOD: why don't you just charge it?
10:24 <@aestetix> man
10:24 <@aestetix> when you've been up all night, farts smell a lot worse
10:30 <@SkyDog_> You are sharing way too much.
10:32 <@aestetix> I believe that everything should be open and shared.
10:34 < ware> aestetix: whats your password?
10:34 <@Shadow404> aestetix: whats your social security number?
10:35 <@Shadow404> mothers maiden name
10:35 <@Shadow404> acct and routing number
10:35 < ware> route this *uNF!*
10:35 <@Shadow404> get that AWAY from em
10:37 < ware> so i want to image my usb drive incase of failure
10:38 < ware> how would you guys do it
10:38 < ware> advantages / disadvantages
10:39 < ware> think im just going to tar it up
10:40 < ware> making an image doesnt seem rational if i goto another drive of a different size
10:41 < ware> ~minilink http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=94991901-bfc4-485e-bcae-c9df0accdaae&displaylang=en
10:41 < ware> hehe
10:41 <@critch> plus an image is wasteful as it also archives your otherwise empty space.
10:43 <@critch> ware microsoft math sucks, "USB flash drives in 2005 can hold up to 4 gigs of data, ... or about three times the content of a standard compact disc"
10:43 <@critch> hmm, 700megs * 3 == 2100 megs, not even close to 4096 megs
10:44 <@brimstone> 650*3?
10:44 <@brimstone> wait, n/m
10:44 <@critch> worse, 5.85 * 700 is close
10:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Image isn't wasteful if a) the free space is all zeroes and b) you compress the result
10:48 <@critch> with the fact that flash drives reorder blocks to reduce rewriting certain segments, it is unlikely any section is all zeros after only a short while of using it.
10:50 < ware> i just want an encrypted backup of all the data on the drive should i lose it or it stops working
10:50 < ware> and however would be easiest to restore it to new hardware
10:51 < ware> not complicated just wanted to see if there were ideas other than zip it / image it
10:52 < ware> in other news, i should be overtaking dc0de on the stats page shortly
10:52 < ware> haha
10:52 <@critch> maybe use real backup software so you can incremental backup on each insert. Keep you backup copy up to date without doing too much work or maintenance.
10:55 < ware> i was thinking about scripting it in with an unmount script
10:55 < ware> i havent researched opensource backup solutions ever
10:56 < ware> wonder if rsync could do it upon insert
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11:08 <@SkyDog_> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90902171&ft=1&f=13
11:13 <@aestetix> http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/holyshit.jpg
11:13 <@Evilpig> does digium does asterisk consulting/repair/install as well as the hardware stuff?
11:14 < ware> hehe
11:14 <@I-MOD> Evilpig, not so much
11:15 <@I-MOD> digium is mostly the hardware
11:15 <@I-MOD> but we are getting into the appliance stuff too
11:15 <@I-MOD> so don't know anything that's happened in the last 6 months
11:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: you can call Digium ProServ
11:15 <@I-MOD> as i'm not in tech support any more and have become disconnected from that
11:15 <@brimstone> they do some of that consulting type stuff
11:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, they tend to be covered up in work
11:16 <@I-MOD> that thread on the dev list is wicked
11:16 <@Evilpig> corydon call me after work please i had a huge project dropped on me and would like your input
11:17 <@Corydon76-dig> What time?
11:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Remember, I work from home
11:17 <@Evilpig> i should be back in signal range around 4 or 5
11:20 <@Evilpig> i'm near new johnsonville right now so my signal is crap
11:48 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: did you use the montrachet yeast that the recipe recommended for the apfelwein?
11:49 <@Shadow404> or did you substitute?
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12:03 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : I use montrachet yeast
12:04 <@Dolemite> I also added 2 tablespoons of cinnamon to the mix in this last batch
12:04 <@Dolemite> it didn't really retain the flavor, though, so I would call that a failed experiment
12:05 <@Shadow404> ok
12:05 <@Shadow404> im gonna pick up the yeast tomorrow
12:13 <@Mirage> SFW: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2996/pmeo9hcjp7aw9.jpg
12:14 <@Shadow404> hehe, i have a great idea for tracking temp where the fermenter will be. I can use the indoor sensor for the weather station to graph it and make sure it doesnt get to hot during the day
12:14 <@Shadow404> and when im sure, its in an ok spot, just move it back to the server room.
12:15 <@Shadow404> i use the weather station sensor as a backup to the one built in my rack anyway
12:21 < ware> Evilpig: when you are on the road are you expected to document things while driving?
12:21 < ware> ie, model numbers etc
12:21 < ware> or do you have someone at the office to take information
12:25 <@Evilpig> ware I don't really do paperwork
12:26 < ware> im paperless for the most part past notes onsite
12:27 < ware> but my manager is expecting me to triage calls and record information while im on the phone and driving
12:27 < ware> and is pissed that i told him information and he forgot it, but expects me to have it
12:27 < AstralSin> tell him you refuse to practice any dangerous driving
12:29 < ware> everyone here has turned on their dick mode
12:29 < ware> or cunt mode
12:29 < ware> being all demanding and demeaning trying to one up the other
12:29 < ware> its fuckstick shit
12:30 -!- freakn changed the topic of #se2600 to: R.I.P. Robert Lynn Asprin | The Last HOPE, July 18-20,2008 http://www.thelasthope.org | RIP - Harvey Korman, comedian extraordinaire | Summercon, this weekend in Atlanta
12:31 <@freakn> anyone ever get windows vista on a macbook without using bootcamp?
12:31 <@freakn> *anyone here
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12:31 <@ladymerlin> heya stef
12:31 < ware> Stefanie_TN: right?
12:31 <@Stefanie_TN> Hi.
12:32 < ware> just agree with me
12:32 <@Stefanie_TN> Right? You mean politically?
12:32 <@SkyDog_> Heya Stef!
12:32 < ware> right as in its fuckstick shit!
12:32 <@Stefanie_TN> Hi SD.
12:33 <@Stefanie_TN> Ware: In that case, you're correct, as usual.
12:33 < ware> ^5
12:33 <@Dolemite> whoa, whoa, whoa...   let's not get carried away with our statements, Stef...
12:33 < ware> ppl here being dicks
12:33 <@Stefanie_TN> lol
12:34 < ware> err not channel here, work here
12:34 < ware> lol
12:34 <@dc0de> ware is "right"?
12:34 <@dc0de> still scary.
12:35 < ware> someday i will get some cred, oh yes, i will get some cred
12:35 <@dc0de> ware: I think that's the 5th sign of the Apocalypse
12:35 <@Stefanie_TN> Well, when it comes to "fuckstick shit," I figure Ware's the expert.
12:36 <@dc0de> ware: Revelations 10:32, And ware get's recognized as having a skill
12:36 < ware> :P
12:37 < ware> actually, im already know for a skill
12:37 <@Dolemite> Revelations 10:33 And thus spake the devil, "Fuck, it's getting cold down here!"
12:37 < ware> chair toss!
12:39 <@dc0de> Dolemite: zactly...
12:44 <@Evilpig> hp tech support wins the award for worst phone system EVER!
12:44 <@Stefanie_TN> I predict that Ware will be President of Nashville 2600, someday.
12:45 <@Evilpig> "please don't hit the keys on your phone.  I can understand you when you speak"
12:46 <@Evilpig> I prediect ware will be the first se2600 president assasinated
12:46 <@Stefanie_TN> lol
12:46 < ware> rofl
12:47 < ware> *shrug* who knows
12:47 <@Evilpig> "please tell me how you use your product"   "no"    "please tell me how you use your product"  "I beat phones with it"  "I'll connect you now"
12:47 < ware> bush making it to VP gives me hope
12:47 < ware> <3 phone genies
12:48 < ware> i usually curse at them until it connects me to a real person
12:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Bush is VP because we cajoled him into doing it
12:48 < ware> you keep your cajoles to yourself mister!
12:48 <@Evilpig> I just got a real person who said she would let me open a ticket against their phone system
12:49 < ware> hahaha
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12:50 < ware> http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/comcast-hijacke.html
12:51 <@Shadow404> lawl, thats funny
12:52 <@Evilpig> son of a bitch.  2nd real person and wrong dept again.  but this one told me to get an operator just keep saying "coinnect me" til you get a voice
12:52 < ware> Defiant's MySpace profile lists him in Cashville, Tennessee
12:53 < booker404> heh @ what they changed the street address to
12:54 < Curbob> "I wish I was a minor right now because this is going to be really bad."
12:54 <@Evilpig> AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!  real person #3, indian and again wrong dept
12:55 <@Corydon76-dig> I've found that "operator" gets me to a real person fairly quickly
13:03 <@I-MOD> yeah
13:03 <@I-MOD> yelling it angrily helps too since sometimes they have the stress measurement stuff
13:04 < ware> ive gotten upity with them a couple times
13:05 <@Stefanie_TN> Hey Ware, were you in NY City this morning, near 1st Avenue and 91st Street?
13:05 <@Shadow404> heh
13:05 < ware> Stefanie_TN: no?
13:05 <@Stefanie_TN> Just wondered. It's got your name all over it.
13:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Stefanie_TN: yes, that did seem like ware's handiwork
13:07 <@Stefanie_TN> I thought maybe you had graduated from chairs to heavy equipment.
13:08 < ware> link?
13:08 <@Stefanie_TN> Any news site.
13:08 < ware> oh the cranes
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13:30 <@brimstone> ug, you have to init dell raids before you can use them
13:30 <@brimstone> lame!
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13:50 <@Evilpig> I don't get this.  I can locally vnc into this server.  but remotely it takes a good 5 minutes before the login screen comes up
13:50 <@Evilpig> almost like there is some type of firewall rule fucking with it that I can't find
13:50 < ware> software fw
13:51 <@Evilpig> but neither way can I ssh into it
13:51 < ware> arp tables fux'd
13:51 < ware> your cat5 is coughing up a hairball
13:52 <@brimstone> dns issues?
13:52 < ware> if hes going by ip that wouldnt matter
13:52 < ware> i blame canada
13:52 <@brimstone> ssh server by default dns's the client's ip
13:53 < ware> really?
13:53 <@critch> brimstone: that is what usually causes delays on connections, but not refusals
13:53 <@brimstone> right
13:54 <@critch> come to think of it, I think PAM might as well.
13:55 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  lemme check teh sshd_config and look for that
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13:56 <@critch> I just did and didn't see a dns option
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13:59 <@Dolemite> of course, tcpwrappers may be denying any unresolved reverse DNS...
14:02 <@Evilpig> #PasswordAuthentication yes
14:02 <@Evilpig> that was set to no with the # removed
14:02 <@Evilpig> the dns option is UseDNS near the bottom of hte sshd_config
14:03 < ware> that was killin it?
14:04 <@Evilpig> the password one seemed to be
14:04 <@brimstone> you turned off password authentication?
14:04 <@Evilpig> it was off by default
14:05 <@Evilpig> I can get to it now just fine
14:05 <@brimstone> yay!
14:08 < ware> werd, collaboration ftw
14:08 < ware> not that i helped, but yay!
14:08 <@critch> well, you didn't hinder.
14:08 < ware> true
14:08 <@Evilpig> leave it to novell to lock down ssh in a strange way
14:09 <@nachoguy> yay, 20 hours until I leave for vacation
14:09 <@nachoguy> I feel like Danny Glover.  "I've got one day to retirement, I hope it's a quiet one" *kabam
14:09 <@nachoguy> *
14:12 <@critch> opinion question? is 7megabytes/s a good throughput for 100M ethernet taking 4 switch hops to a NFS mount point?
14:15 <@brimstone> i would try to squeese more out of it
14:15 < booker405> .
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14:15 <@Evilpig> 10 is max isn't it?
14:16 <@brimstone> 12.5 is theoretical max
14:16 <@Evilpig> i've never seen higher than 9 myself.  and that is rare I am usually pretty happy with 7
14:18 <@brimstone> i guess i'm just used to gigabit then
14:18 <@brimstone> i like my 20MB/s speeds
14:22 < Curbob> http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/29/expert-says-ufo-tape-no-fake/
14:23 <@brimstone> yeah, right
14:23 <@brimstone> http://www.rockymountainparanormal.com/ufo/
14:24 <@critch> Well considering that I am playing with DRBD to make software raid 1 out of the machine I was copying to, and it is using a private gigabit network, plus NFS was involved, I am fairly happy with the result.
14:26  * brimstone likes glusterfs
14:27 <+coil> i has gigE
14:27 <@brimstone> too bad there's no open network raid 5 :/
14:27 <+coil> but laptop hd isn't that fast
14:27 < Curbob> yeh that alien window tape is funky
14:27 <@brimstone> like a drobo, but across systems
14:28 <@critch> brimstone: shouldn't be too hard to do it starting with drbd.
14:28 <@brimstone> i've got 4 machines in my lab, with 30 to 80 GB disks
14:28 <@nachoguy> critch, or iscsi
14:28 <@brimstone> it would be pretty cool to cluster that all together
14:29 <+coil> cluster deez
14:29 <@brimstone> well, actually, if i use my workstation as a central point, it would work with iscsi i guess pretty easy
14:29 <@critch> drbd appears to be a block device to linux, under it, it replicates the writes to a network address and the local drives. Moding it to split the write request up and then send it out to remote machines doesn't seem like a lot of extra work.
14:30 <@critch> brimstone: don't use iscsi, try aoe instead. Free drivers to turn loopback files into aoe drives.
14:30 <@brimstone> aoe > iscsi?
14:30 <@brimstone> faster, more stable, etc?
14:31 <@critch> iscsi has TCP overheads where as aoe lives down on the ethernet itself. Doesn't hop beyond your switches, not remotely exploitable.
14:31 <@brimstone> also, i'd need to find a linux program that could take a mixed amount of disks and raid them so at least one could fail on me
14:31 <@critch> faster only in as much as it is more efficient on the wire without the TCP headers
14:31 <@brimstone> mixed size disks
14:32 <@critch> well, aoe shows up as a block device in linux, so then you just use MD above that to raid it.
14:32 <@critch> mixed size would be a problem no matter how you try and raid 5. unequal distribution would put you at risk of data loss.
14:34 <@brimstone> yeah, so i'd have to go with the least common denominator between the disks with md
14:35 <@critch> right, but by being able to use loopbacks exported via aoe, you could make same size exportable drives.
14:36 <@critch> LCD being 30gigs, create a 30gig drive among the various hosts, export them, and then let MD put them all together.
14:36 <@brimstone> yeah, i could do that, but still only ~25x4GB of usable space
14:36 <@brimstone> lossing almost 50GB one or two systems
14:43 <@nachoguy> quasi-NSFW http://seorant.ath.cx/police/ladybird.html
14:44 <@nachoguy> iscsi can be mounted on remote networks, if desired
14:44 <@nachoguy> so aoe and iscsi are for two different setups
14:46 <@nachoguy> brimstone, checkout zumastore.org
14:52 <@brimstone> Iceweasel can't find the server at www.zumastore.org.
14:52 < ware> iceweasel?
14:53 <@brimstone> debian's open version of firefox
14:53 <@brimstone> as if it wasn't open enough
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14:54 < ware> oh yeah ive heard of that
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15:12 <@nachoguy> sorry, it's zumastor
15:12 <@nachoguy> the e was a typo
15:17 < ware> so something i dont understand about ipv6
15:17 < ware> it runs over ipv4 at the moment, correct?
15:19 < booker404> So, who's hitting up Summercon tonight?
15:19 < Curbob> me
15:20 < booker404> sweet
15:20 < booker404> I
15:20 < booker404> I'm tossing it around
15:20 < ware> i dont see the point if that is correct, because youre just tunneling your traffic thru some IPv6 broker which will be a proxy for all your data
15:20 < Curbob> not sure how long i'll stay tonight but def will be there tomorrow
15:21 < booker404> Schedule says there's a "meet and greet" at 7PM in the holtel bar... meet at the Mojito Lounge (the name of the bar?)... still the plan?
15:21 < Curbob> yep, think so
15:21 < booker404> excellent!
15:23 < ware> http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/IPv6.ars
15:23 < ware> for anyone interested
15:27 < booker404> ware: I /believe/ that there are native IP6 connections, but for legacy compatibility you can have IP6 tunneling over IP4
15:28 < ware> well for say comcast cable or bellsouth desl
15:28 < ware> dsl*
15:28 < ware> they arent going to give me an IPv6 address are they?
15:28 < booker404> At this time, I doubt they are distributing them
15:28 < booker404> perhaps to very large enterprises, but not you or I...
15:30 <@nachoguy> there are a few ISPs (mostly in europe) that will hand out ipv6
15:31 <@nachoguy> directly to customers, not over a tunnel
15:31 < booker404> oh nice!
15:32 < booker404> I know BT was offering free IP6 tunnelling... Wonder if that means they do direct too?
15:33 <@Evilpig> I don't wanna learn ipv6
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15:35 <@brimstone> it should be a felony to tunnel ipv6 traffic through ipv4
15:35 < ware> its dumb
15:35 < ware> it defeats the purpose
15:36 < ware> ISPs need to make it available and get connected to each other with IPv6
15:36 < ware> then start rolling customers over
15:37 < ware> using some tunnel broker just seems stupid right now too
15:37 < booker404> yeah
15:37 < ware> add latency, proxy all your data
15:37 < booker404> IP6 certainly seems quite underutilized
15:37 < booker404> (natively, I mean)
15:37 < ware> not like the isp can see all teh traffic now if they wanted to anyways
15:38 < ware> ive been readin about it for the past hour or so and it seems pretty cool
15:41 < ware> well
15:41 < ware> if you cant ssh tunnel out for some reason you could ipv6 out hehe
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15:51 < ware> also http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/IPv6_IGD.mspx
15:54 < ware> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/network/bb530961.aspx
15:54 < ware> k im done with the links hehe
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16:46 < ware> have a good weekend errybuddy
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17:22 <+coil> you too ware asshat
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18:12 <@nachoguy> sweet, I have a new laptop
18:12 <@nachoguy> I just named it widdershins
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18:26 <@sdodson> nachoguy: what's that means?
18:26 <@ShadowHntr> ?
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18:55 <+coil> do i need sp3 to install sp4 on win2k?
18:58 <@Evilpig> no
18:58 <@Evilpig> sp4 is inclusive
18:58 <@ShadowHntr> no sp4 is cumulative
18:58 <+coil> hmm, this win2k doesn't even have a sp installed!
18:59 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
18:59 <@ShadowHntr> :P
18:59 <+coil> plz dont get haxed plz dont
18:59 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: *ping*
18:59 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr: pong
19:31 < ware> werd got approved at sixxs.net
19:36 < AstralSin> what did you say in that form asking why you were requesting it/
19:40 < ware> wanted to explore ipv6 and that i was in consulting
19:43 < AstralSin> im gonna try again
19:46 <@dc0de> ware, what is the free porn on IPV6?
19:48 <@dc0de> www.ipv6experiment.com
19:48 <@dc0de> found it.
19:51 < ware> really?
19:52 < ware> Also keep in mind that the experiment is not yet active! These sites do nothing until the launch day.
19:52 < ware> lame
19:53 < ware> When will all this start?
19:53 < ware> We anticipate beginning this experiment in the February-March timeframe.
19:53 < ware> Recent changes
19:53 < ware> 5 January 2008
19:53 < ware> i saw its bunk
19:53 < ware> say*
19:55 < AstralSin> prolly
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21:23 < ware> ugg
21:23 < ware> wish they'd appove my ipv6 ip already
21:23 < ware> i want to play
21:23 < ware> gonna try to hax it onto my pfsense box
21:29 <@tcstool> bah
21:29 <@tcstool> get a life :-p
21:30  * ware goes back to playing wow
21:30 < ware> :P
21:30 < ware> i have a life! a social one too at that
21:30 < ware> all that is relative anywayas
21:30 <@tcstool> well then you're alread ahead of Jason
21:31 < ware> haha
21:31 < ware> hes gettin married
21:31 <@tcstool> yeah allegedly
21:32 < ware> still a month off but im pretty sure itll happen
21:32 <@tcstool> heh
21:32 <@tcstool> he's been so sketchy with the details and told us such off the wall stuff we figured it was a Second life marriage or something
21:33 < ware> lol
21:33 <@tcstool> eh enough about him he's a douchebag anyways
21:33 <@tcstool> Been to cookeville lately?
21:39 < ware> eh last week
21:40 < ware> gotta go monday
21:42 <@tcstool> what fo?
21:42 <@tcstool> You should call me up when you're down sometime
21:51 < ware> tellers at teh bank need some updatin, moving em to the new fileserver
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21:52 <@tcstool> didn't they get a new server not long ago?
21:53 < ware> not sure
21:54 <@tcstool> CBOTC right?
22:02 < ware> yeah
22:07 <@tcstool> hm that's interesting
22:07 <@tcstool> I replaced two of those file servers before I left
22:10 < ware> maybe thats why they got replaced again ;) haha
22:10 < ware> hows your new gig
22:10 <@tcstool> Pretty good, I like doing a lot of the Cisco stuff
22:10 <@tcstool> some pen testing too which is fun
22:10 <@tcstool> definitely a lot more fun
22:12 < ware> if i dont get my raise at a year im gonna be leavin
22:12 <@tcstool> can't say I blame you
22:12 <@tcstool> heh we're looking for a guy in the Nashville area
22:12 < ware> when you know how much everyone makes and youre getting 6-10k less than people that escalate to you
22:12 < ware> f that
22:13 < ware> f that in a!
22:13 <@tcstool> yeah but that's always been the story there
22:13 <@tcstool> and all those damn managers
22:13 < ware> those b g d n s c l's!
22:13 <@tcstool> you know they're making bank
22:13 < ware> 80k-110k
22:13 <@tcstool> 10 damn managers dude
22:13 <@tcstool> is that not crazy
22:14 < ware> i only report to 2 of em
22:14 < ware> but its dumb
22:14 < ware> and kix0n is leavin in a week for a month
22:14 <@tcstool> yeah
22:14 < ware> w00h00
22:14 <@tcstool> really?
22:14 <@tcstool> what for?
22:14 <@tcstool> I had mixed feelings about Karen
22:15 < ware> vacation
22:15 < ware> i wanna put it in her pooper to be honest
22:15 < ware> err
22:15 <@tcstool> a month long vacation?
22:16 < ware> yuhp
22:16 < ware> to uh...
22:16 < ware> hang on
22:16 < ware> some exotic islands
22:17 <@tcstool> must be nice
22:17 <@tcstool> Maybe she'll come back less of a bitch?
22:17 < ware> hopefully
22:17 < ware> she needs to get fucked
22:17 < ware> and chill out
22:17 <@tcstool> Heh yeah
22:17 <@tcstool> maybe that has something to do with it
22:17 < ware> shes been on teh rag for the past month
22:19 <@tcstool> I guess steve got off it and she went on?
22:21 < ware> eh i like steve
22:21 < ware> hes been more than fair to me
22:22 < ware> think thats cause we went to the strip club a couple times
22:22 < ware> and have gotten shithammered together
22:23 < ware> one of the HC members is doing a preso on BT2 next week if you wanna go
22:23 <@tcstool> you're full of shit
22:23 < ware> nope
22:23 <@sdodson> BT2?
22:23 < ware> the new project manager came ones
22:23 <@sdodson> nm
22:23 <@tcstool> HC members?
22:23 < ware> oh not steve b steve j
22:23 <@tcstool> what's HC?
22:23 <@tcstool> Ohh
22:24 < ware> haha
22:24 <@sdodson> Homo Club!
22:24 <@tcstool> YEah I'm talking about steve b
22:24 < ware> Hacker Consortium.com
22:24 <@tcstool> ah
22:24 < ware> sdodson: want to join the mouth party?
22:24 <@tcstool> Yeah  I might try to go to that
22:24 <@sdodson> nah i'm good
22:24 <@sdodson> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,360602,00.html oh noz
22:25 < ware> think its just going to be open forum for eveyone to talk and discuss
22:25 <@tcstool> that'd be OK, I took that Bt2 class
22:25 < ware> whichin?
22:26 <@sdodson> omg front dumbell raises r hard
22:26 < ware> sdodson: you can raise my hard front dumbell
22:26 <@sdodson> i bet that'd be easy
22:27 < ware> it is =/
22:27 <@tcstool> speaking of things that excite Ware...
22:27 <@tcstool> Dokken is playing a show in Cookeville July 18th
22:31 < ware> cookevegas has been having a lot of concerts lately
22:31 < ware> that are close to worth a shit
22:34 <@tcstool> yeah
22:34 <@sdodson> The "Wailers" are playing here tomorrow... uhhh maybe there'll be drunk girls there
22:34 <@sdodson> i dunno, otherwise i see no reason to go
22:34 <@tcstool> CrunkFest and now this
22:34 <@tcstool> and they're actually playing in Nashville 10 days before this
22:35 <@tcstool> so why they would come back to play in cookeville, crazy
22:36 <@Evilpig> skytubby: ping
22:36 < ware> Evilpig: you killed my d/l!
22:36 < ware> was trying to find you to see if i could grab holy grail
22:38 <@Evilpig> I haven't done shit bitch
22:38 < ware> well dayumenthen
22:38 < ware> wonder if i can d/l it straight to my xbox
22:39 <@sdodson> no
22:39 < ware> try it agai in a min, my box has some spyware on it
22:39 <@tcstool> porn!
22:39 < ware> you know of any WoW rap?
22:40 < ware> ive seen some rock videos
22:40 < ware> like the murloc song hehe
22:41 <@Evilpig> from level 70 elite?
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22:41 <@Evilpig> I think that is what they are called.  or maybe the tauren chieftens or something retarded like that
22:41 <@Evilpig> I think I have this vista sidebar working on my xp box now.  and that has me all pleased with myself
22:44 <@Evilpig> ware I don't even see you on my ftp.  all I see is jdawg
22:44 < ware> i was on it 20 min ago
22:44 < ware> not active atm
22:45 < ware> ima go in on the xbox in a min and try it
22:45 <@Evilpig> I had it limited to 20kb cause that twit was ripping my bandwidth to shit
22:45 < ware> can understand that
22:47 <@Evilpig> if this sidebar works for my buddy mike then I will put a link in here for y'all to abuse
22:54 <@sdodson> Evilpig: hey what up jigga man?
22:54 <@sdodson> what were you triyng to do with xen?
22:54 <@sdodson> and routing, and hoes?
22:55 <@Evilpig> I got it working
22:55 <@Evilpig> I was trying to get into my xen core remotely
22:55 <@Evilpig> and it was being difficult cause novell set the default sshd to not accept passwords
22:55 <@Evilpig> it's running now though and it's happy
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22:57 <@sdodson> weird
22:57 < ware> hehe kickass
22:57 <@Evilpig> dodson what are you running on your desktop?
22:57 < ware> im d/ling it directly from the xbox
22:58 <@Evilpig> lemme just throw this out there.  anyone running xp sp2 with IE7 and MP11 ?
22:58 <@sdodson> Evilpig: xp normally
23:00 <@sdodson> i don't think i have mp11
23:01 <@sdodson> we should buy out novell and put them out of their misery
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23:02 <@Evilpig> well if you want to give it a shot I have this vista side bar thing.  it works for me but not my buddy mike who is still running IE6 and MP10
23:04 <@Evilpig> hrmm.  it doesn't read my wifi settings right.
23:09 <@Evilpig> it can tell I have a secured network.  it knows the IP.  but it can't give me signal strength
23:16 < ware> ie7 is crapshit
23:16 < ware> isnt ie8 coming out soon
23:26 <@sdodson> I imagine it's a bit off.
23:26 <@sdodson> 6-9months atleast
23:28 <@Evilpig> http://gallery.live.com/liveItemDetail.aspx?li=edc14bc5-72f5-4e0d-b761-5a765408f67b&bt=1&pl=1
23:28 <@Evilpig> now that is a handy gadget
23:28 <@sdodson> man people are going nuts over gas
23:28 <@Evilpig> the gas price is ridiculous
23:28 <@sdodson> I hope everyone sells their cars.
23:29 <@sdodson> It'd be nice to see the oil industry collapse as Bush leaves office.
23:29 < ware> shit, hes gonna start a war with iraq before he leaves
23:29 < ware> then somehow make it so he stays in office
23:29 < ware> and we are no longer a democracy :(
23:30 < ware> so long, and thanks for all the fish
23:31 <@sdodson> mmmm fish
23:31 <@sdodson> i wants me some sushi
23:31 <@sdodson> installing the nvidia driver allows my machine to suspend but i don't want the driver
23:32 <@ShadowHntr> ?
23:33 <@sdodson> Am I supposed to respond to that insightful statement?
23:33 <@Evilpig> mmm sushi
23:33 <@sdodson> Evilpig: what do you get?
23:33 <@Evilpig> hahah poor spider.  eve caught it and it toying with it
23:34 <@Evilpig> sushi?  I almost always go chefs choice anymore
23:34 <@sdodson> that's usually sashimi?
23:34 <@Evilpig> I really like eel.  octopus sashimi is pretty tasty
23:34 <@sdodson> i don't like octopus sashimi, it's generally rubbery
23:34 <@Evilpig> depends on where you go really.  I tend to sit at the sushi bar and talk to the dude and tell him to make me something tasty
23:35 <@Evilpig> but bbq eel is definitely a favorite
23:35 <@sdodson> ok, anyway, goodnight
23:35 <@Evilpig> later
23:38 < ware> bai sdodson
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