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01:37 <@aestetix> word
02:07 <+coil> Prime now: 81799
02:07 <+coil> Prime count: 7999
02:07 <+coil> Prime density: 9.8%
02:07 <+coil> Uptime:  02:03
02:08 <+coil> (c)  2001  AC
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04:11 <+coil> http://alpha61.com/primenumbershittingbear/
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07:16 <@Shadow404> man, irssi got all jacked up last night
07:16 <@sdodson> i jacked it up
07:16 <@Shadow404> heh, end user calling my work telling me that our company is port scanning and buggin his computer and throwing words like patriot act and shit
07:16 <@sdodson> hmm, that sounds a bit odd
07:17 <@sdodson> you probably are
07:17 <@sdodson> i don't trust anyone who would employ you
07:17 <@Shadow404> heh, im lawling at him while i try to figure out which of our customers the ip is
07:17 <@Shadow404> heh, jsut found it
07:17 <@Shadow404> its one of our habitual abuse customers
07:17 <@Shadow404> trypical
07:18 <@sdodson> what do you mean by habitual abuse?
07:18 <@Shadow404> the company even has a dedicated dept and phone number for abuse complaints
07:18 <@sdodson> he calls and abuses people
07:18 <@sdodson> ?
07:19 <@Shadow404> abuse, spamming/hacking-attempts/etc
07:19 <@Shadow404> they are a customer of ours that leases connectivity
07:19 <@Shadow404> they in return have subcustomers that lease the connectivity
07:20 <@Shadow404> but our customer is responsible for fielding complaints
07:20 <@sdodson> word
07:23 <@Shadow404> i think hes drunk
07:23 <@Shadow404> seriously slurring his words
07:23 <@Shadow404> he said that he is going to get he the fbi to personally take my computer and check it for illegal hacking material
07:23 <@Shadow404> good luck, all i got on here is languard and thats for work
07:24 <@Shadow404> now my linux box has some stuff, but bleh
07:24 <@Shadow404> its all for work
08:09 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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09:04 < ware> Dolemite: !
09:04 < ware> did you see my tank pics
09:04 < AstralSin> omfg, my buddy just called me asking me how to copy a file from bash
09:04 < ware> cp noob gtfo
09:05 < AstralSin> actually, in his case it was cp -R but we wont't split hairs
09:05 <@Corydon76-dig> AstralSin: did you tell him how to learn?  i.e. apropos copy
09:05 < ware> :D
09:05 < AstralSin> he didn't even know what cp was till i told him
09:05 < ware> shoulda told him init 0
09:05 < AstralSin> i kept it simple, i just told him about man
09:05 <@Corydon76-dig> man -k copy ?
09:06 < AstralSin> man cp
09:06 <@Corydon76-dig> That only gets him to where he needs to be if he knows the command name already
09:07 <@Corydon76-dig> -k helps him make the association
09:07 <@polerin> Corydon is all about the man.  (sorry, I couldn't help it.  it's been too long)
09:07  * Corydon76-dig is a firm believer in teaching people how to learn
09:07 < AstralSin> he knows how to google
09:07 <@Corydon76-dig> That only gets you so far
09:08 < AstralSin> it woulda fuckin told him to use cp to copy a file in linux!
09:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Then again, I'm an old codger, having learned Unix commands before there was a google.com
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09:09 <@Corydon76-dig> I remember calling up the author of a unix-like operating system, where he had put in the manual something about logging in as the superuser... I tried logging in as "superuser" to no avail, and called him in desperation to learn that the username was "root"
09:11 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm sure that gave him a chuckle
09:12 < ware> Dolemite: http://ware.is.a.network.dj/~w/swat/
09:16 < AstralSin> OMFG now he doesn't know what .. means
09:17 < AstralSin> im gonna strangle this fucker
09:19 < ware> umm
09:19 < ware> linux for dummies
09:19 < ware> google.com
09:19 < AstralSin> i know, i know, but he likes to ask someone he knows first
09:19 < AstralSin> but i'm gonna keep making fun of him till he gets the picture
09:20 <@Shadow404> ware: hwow did you do that?
09:21 <@Corydon76-dig> http://rurl.org/qxx SFW
09:22 < ware> Shadow404: hopped a fence and picked the lock
09:22 <@Shadow404> ....sure
09:22 <@Shadow404> was this before or after you got arrested
09:23 < ware> my buddy wired it up with radio equipment / cameras n stuff
09:23 <@Shadow404> kool
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09:49 <@Evilpig> I have to say I got a message on my cell this morning that freaked me the fuck out.  "Hi wilbure, this is brett from interpol"
09:51 < booker404> oh yeah?
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09:57 <@Shadow404> what did they want?
09:57 <@Shadow404> i still talk to my fed buddies
09:58 < ware> buttbuddys*cough*
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09:58 <@Evilpig> they need access into a firewall at the east prairie police dept
09:58 <@Shadow404> ah, kool
09:58 <@Evilpig> I just hear interpol and start sweating
09:58 <@Shadow404> that would freak me out too
09:58 <@Shadow404> heh, as would anyone
09:59 <@Shadow404> ware: na, just some feds that i met with an investigation i assisted on
10:01 < ware> narc'd
10:01 <@Shadow404> nope
10:01 < ware> yuhp
10:01 < ware> how did you assist?
10:01 <@Shadow404> just had some general questions about www.shadow404.com/125
10:01 < ware> ahhaha
10:10 <@Mirage> ware: he handed them the lube
10:22 <@Jagobah> 1
10:22 <@Shadow404> 2
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10:40 < dasunt_> Meh, work time.
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11:07 <@Evilpig> I had someone ask me an interesting question.  anyone know of any products that can ping a host and when that host misses x number of pings it sets off a physical relay?
11:07 < booker404> nagios and a "notification" perl script that signals the parallel port
11:07 <@I-MOD> perl+x10?
11:14 <@brimstone> or even just nagios, bash and x10
11:14 <@brimstone> or just a bash/cron script
11:14 <@brimstone> i'm setting up something that'll toggle the POE port on an AP when it fails to pong back
11:16 <@Evilpig> that is an interesting idea
11:17 < booker404> yeah nifty
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11:37 < ware> its quiet as a church in this motherfucker
11:37 < ware> the hell is wrong with you people
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11:41 <@nachoguy> everything
11:49  * dc0de drops a pin.... 
11:53  * Dolemite picks up dc0de's pin and sticks it back into his pocket protector.
11:53 <@dc0de> ouch... watch it Dolemite... I wasn't looking for a nipple piercing.
11:54 <@Dolemite> Hey, at least you didn't end up with a Prince Albert!
11:54  * dc0de hands the pin back to Dolemite and points him at ware
11:54 <@Evilpig> la lalala lalala lalala
11:54 <@dc0de> Dolemite: he's the one who likes to have his parts pierced!
11:54 <@Evilpig> what's for lunch today people?
11:55 <@dc0de> Heh, not safe to fly in South Florida anymore... :)
11:55 <@dc0de> http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=683b4373-3357-44e9-be65-96bd3146ccba
11:55 <@dc0de> ~minilink
11:55 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/aero-news.net/HrL3N.cfm
11:55 <@dc0de> bullet holes found in aircraft
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11:56 <@dc0de> ahh, vaneck_
11:56 <@vaneck_> ahoy!
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11:56 <@dc0de> sup man?!
11:57 <@vaneck> not much...about to go to lunch. yourself?
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12:17  * oddball headesks
12:18 <@oddball> what do I do when the president of the company starts sending out spam to everyone in the company
12:18 < ware> roll with it
12:19 < ware> or tell him it has spyware embedded in it
12:19 < ware> what i wanna know is how do you respond to the new guy who keeps asking you questions about simple easy shit
12:19 < booker404> RTFM
12:19 < ware> when you know he makes more than you
12:19 < booker404> don't give him the answer... tell him where to find the answer himself
12:20 < booker404> ...teach a man to fish....
12:21 < ware> yeah
12:21 < ware> its so fckn dumb
12:21 < ware> i wouldnt mind it if i got paid more
12:21 < ware> *Shrug*
12:21  * ware rolls with it
12:23 < booker404> ware: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eve/634668792.html
12:23 < booker404> oh crap, nm
12:23 < booker404> I keep assuming everybody is atlanta-based
12:25 <@Shadow404> damn, wish i knew about this sooner
12:25 <@Shadow404> i would of taken today off for that
12:25 < booker404> bleh, their web site says postponed
12:29 <+coil> ill be right over there
12:29 < astralsin1> gotta have security clearance
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12:30 <+coil> clear deez nuts
12:30 <@Shadow404> AstralSin: not a problem
12:31 <@dc0de> booker404: that's really only a good show if you have your clearance...
12:31 < AstralSin> how does one obtain security clearance? get a government job?
12:31 <@Shadow404> or pharma
12:31 < AstralSin> ah
12:31 <@dc0de> AstralSin: yes...
12:32 <@Shadow404> or work for a govt contractor
12:32 <@dc0de> the average cost of a Top Secret Clearance is now ~$750,000.00, so they want to make sure that if you are getting one, you are clean/clear & trustworthy, and that you're going to be committed to staying in the cleared world.
12:33 <@dc0de> if you add a full lifestyle check and lie detector, the costs go up to ~ $1 million ea.
12:33 < AstralSin> i see alot of jobs that require it
12:33 < AstralSin> secret clearance anyway
12:34 < AstralSin> just got an email from robert half asking me if i'd be interested in doing consulting for them
12:34 <@nachoguy> hah, those guys are slave traders
12:34 < AstralSin> yeah i know, but i'll take anything at this point
12:35 <@nachoguy> I thought you just got something
12:35 < AstralSin> i went for an interview... and i'm expecting a call back from them but i like to keep as many options open as possible
12:35 <@nachoguy> ok
12:35 <@nachoguy> it's a good plan
12:36 < AstralSin> i have a phone interview friday for a job i know i won't get but i'll do the interview anyway
12:36 <@nachoguy> fair enough, it's interviewing experience
12:36 < AstralSin> yeah
12:36 < AstralSin> i think i finally caught my stride in that last interview though, it went really well
12:37 < AstralSin> the interview before that sucked
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12:42 <+coil> hi Shadow405
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13:22 <@Evilpig> my list of customers I refuse to help out is getting long
13:28 < somenothing> perhaps you should stop keeping a blacklist and move to a whitelist...
13:31 <@Evilpig> my boss is selling this online backup software to some of our customers.  and this one customer wants to backup 240GB worth of data...  so I said get http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ on a large server and don't tell my boss I mentioned it
13:32 <@Evilpig> so the motherfucker goes straight to my boss and tells him what I said.  next thing I know I get a txt message from my boss asking if I am leaving the company
13:32 <@Evilpig> see if I try and help that douche again
13:32 <@Evilpig> next advice from me will result in some form of drive formatting
13:33 <@dc0de> Evilpig: yeah, tell him to boot from dban, to fix his hard disk clutter.
13:33 <@dc0de> http://dban.sourceforge.net/
13:35 <@Evilpig> you know.  it really is not good for you to piss off the guy that fixes your servers when they break
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14:00 <@oddball> what...  the... fuck...
14:00 <@oddball> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90OP31O0&show_article=1&image=large
14:01 <@oddball> ~minilink
14:01 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/breitbart.com/rJYXW.php
14:01 <@oddball> apparently baseball bats are now inherently dangerous and the manufacturers should be held responsible for injurying kids.
14:03 < ware> jesus
14:03 < ware> i think the mom has been struck in the head a couple times
14:03 < ware> fuckin issue ridden bitch trying to make a buck
14:03 < ware> SORRY, YOUR KID IS STILL GONNA BE A FUCKING RETARD
14:03 < ware> get fucked cunt
14:04 < MudFlap> pulled straight from John Grisham's The Appeal.
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14:06 <+coil>  Steven was pitching in a Police Athletic League game when he was hit just above the heart by a line drive. His heart stopped beating and his brain was deprived of oxygen for 15 to 20 minutes, according to his doctors.
14:06 <+coil> how can the brain live that long with out oxy
14:07 <@oddball> parts of it shut down... hence the brain damage
14:07 <@I-MOD> is that article for real or is it just a troll? (never read anything on breitbart before)
14:07 <+coil> i thought your brain died after 3 mins or some shit with no oxygen
14:07 <@oddball> well, I'm reading an article about the incedent on SI.com right now, so...
14:08 < ware> lol @ the comments to that story
14:08 < ware> im such a prick
14:09 <@oddball> Yeah, the SSports Illustrated story says the father believes it wouldn't have happened if the bat was wood instead of aluminum
14:10 < ware> i swear
14:10 < ware> this is why i hate people
14:10 <@oddball> becasuse... you know... nobody has been injured by a line drive from a wooden bat
14:10 < ware> the majority of them are fucking irresponsible idiots trying to exploit another person or put them down
14:11 <@oddball> I just didn't post the SI article because it's split into several pages and full of emotional bullshit.
14:11 <@I-MOD> jesus...how can some of these people remember to breathe?
14:11 <@oddball> well, in this case, I think it's just one of those "shit just happens" scenarios.
14:18 <@I-MOD> ok, so another headline: "Children starving, again, in Ethiopia"
14:18 <@I-MOD> i can feel the sarcasm
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14:22 <@oddball> yeah, looking at the other headlines, there's obviously a bit of a.... slant... to the site, but, after some digging, this article is dead on.
14:24 < ware> cuntahz!
14:25 < ware> so network traffic assessment on a switched network
14:25 < ware> but the switches arent managed
14:25 < ware> anyone have idears outside of placing it on the uplink to the modem to see outgoing traffic?
14:25 < ware> and only check the traffic between switches
14:26 < ware> ie, the uplinks between them throughout the building?
14:26 < ware> there are ~12 switches none of them managed
14:26 <@SkyDog_> That's pretty much your option.
14:26 < ware> well they want an assessment of how things are flowing internally as well as wan link usage
14:27 < ware> i told em if the switches couldnt dump the traffic to one port it may not work as they want
14:27 < booker404> snmp on all computers and mrtg?
14:28 < ware> lol
14:28 < ware> young padiwan
14:29 < ware> you will learn the ways of the force
14:29 < ware> and that way is of the dark side
14:29 < ware> reason for all this is they are putting in a voip system and want it to run on the exsisting network
14:29 < booker404> excellent
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14:37 <@SkyDog_> NTOP on a box, with a hub between uplinks. Sniff the traffic and see what shows.
14:37 <@SkyDog_> You can see realtime data that way.
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14:39 < ware> wont see data from A to B if they are on the same switch
14:40 <@SkyDog_> true.
14:40 < ware> which is what i wanted to get around but dont think i can
14:41 <@dc0de> ware: are the switches managed?
14:41 <@dc0de> ware: can you enable span/monitor ports?
14:41 < ware> neg
14:42 < ware> went over that before ya joined
14:42 <@dc0de> sorry...
14:42 <@dc0de> put a sniffer ON host A or B?
14:42 < ware> there are 12 switches and 150+ clients
14:43 < ware> reason for the assessment is they want to put a voip system on the exsisting infrastructure
14:43 <@dc0de> ok, what are you trying to solve?
14:43  * dc0de didn't see what he didn't see.... 
14:43 < ware> so i need to see how much / what kind of traffic is going on right now
14:44 <@dc0de> ahh, and you have "dumb" switches?
14:44 <@dc0de> dumb switches == you're fucked
14:46 < ware> yuh
14:46 <@dc0de> period.
14:46 < ware> i dont think theyre too hot on giving me a 30% markup on 12 24 port managed switches either :P
14:46 <@dc0de> until the switches are replaced with something intelligent, short of deploying a sniffer on EVERY switch interconnect, you're pissing in the wind.
14:47 < ware> well what i can do is show then WAN traffic
14:47 <@dc0de> and the intarweb traffic...
14:47 <@dc0de> anywhere there is a router.
14:47 < ware> k was just dbl checking with yall eleetoz
14:48 < ware> makin sure i didnt miss anything
14:48 <@dc0de> ware: the other option for them is to move to a set of managed switches for a "period" of time, i.e. rentals, so you can get the traffic details figured out.
14:48 <@dc0de> there are some companies that are willing to rent gear...
14:49 <@dc0de> worth a shot... even if it's used.
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14:49 <@dc0de> Hell, if I had something that would work, I'd rent it to you.
14:49  * dc0de used to have a 72 port Foundry... 
14:49 <@dc0de> :(
14:49 < ware> theyre all over the place in the building tho
14:50 <@dc0de> ahh, still, someone in Nashville has to have used gear sitting idle...
14:50 <@dc0de> how many switches is it?
14:52 < ware> 12 or so
14:52 <@dc0de> 24port? all of them?
14:52 < ware> yes
14:52 < ware> i think*
14:52 < ware> i just got in on this late last week
14:52 <@dc0de> k. checking...
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14:54 <@dc0de> ware: is this a contract job? or for your place?
14:54 < ware> its for work
14:54 < ware> unfortunately =/
14:55 <@dc0de> what's the budget?
14:55 <@dc0de> you're going to need intelligent switches for a solid VoIP deployment...
15:00 < ware> hahaha! kickass
15:00 < ware> got project64 emulator working on opensuse
15:00 < ware> hehe
15:02 <@dc0de> ware: what's project64?
15:05 <@Evilpig> the successor to project63
15:08 <@SkyDog_> Twice as much as Project32
15:13 < ware> its a nintendo 64 emulator
15:13 < ware> to play roms
15:13 < ware> been missin my mario golf 64 :D
15:15 <@freakn> can't over pay and play it on the wii?
15:21  * polerin yawns
15:23 <@dc0de> ware: ahh, then I'm not as excited as you...
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15:36 <@wontonjoe> greets from the iPhone
15:36 <@brimstone> sellout
15:37 <@wontonjoe> haha
15:39 <@I-MOD> fail
15:40 <@I-MOD> i *MIGHT* get a 3g iphone if it has a2dp and an easy way for me to play with it's software without running a mac OS
15:42 < ware> yah usux for buying a badass piece of hardware...
15:43 <@brimstone> my plan is to get work to pay for it
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15:47 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: you think Digium will buy you an iPhone?
15:48 <@brimstone> they just paid for 3 macbooks in the dept
15:48 <@brimstone> i don't want a macbook, but i can justify having access to servers wherever i am
15:48 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: you might be able to get them by convincing swdev that they need to do Asterisk integration with the iPhone...
15:49 <@brimstone> yeah, why haven't you guys gotten a softphone working for it yet?
15:49 <@brimstone> or visual switchvox voicemail?
15:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Patents
15:49 <@brimstone> pfft
15:49 <@brimstone> patents are excuses, not reasons
15:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Plus, I don't think any of the developers have an iPhone
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15:59 <@brimstone> i think it's 4 o'clock cookie time
16:04 <@dc0de> it's time to go home...
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16:15 <@Evilpig> god damnit.  my boss is expanding way too much
16:15 <@Evilpig> he just bought a very large book company 
16:16 <@Evilpig> anyone every heard of microsoft navi?
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16:19 < hotlarry> Hey, Evilpig, your boss took $1066 out of my bank account yesterday
16:20 <@Evilpig> what did you give crystal money for?
16:20 < hotlarry> I gave her money?
16:21 <@Evilpig> how else would she get $1066 out of your bank account?
16:22 < hotlarry> Not sure, but it seems they payed me $1066 about a week ago:)
16:23 < hotlarry> is crytal doing the payroll now/
16:23 <@Evilpig> no.  a moron is
16:33 <@Evilpig> if I wasn't so against reupping my contract with suckular I would take this deal.  http://www.letstalk.com/product/product.htm?prId=34106
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17:20 <@aestetix> ok
17:20 <@aestetix> here's the scenario
17:20 <@aestetix> there's a cute girl who constantly writes on her lj about how much she likes sex
17:20 <@aestetix> and also writes about single life
17:22 <+coil> stick it in her pooper
17:22 <@aestetix> she's a hottie too
17:23 <@aestetix> I have never encountered a single hot young girl who just can't get satisfied
17:23 <@aestetix> and needs to share it with the world
17:24 <@brimstone> she's a man
17:26 <@mtown_nerd> lol @ str8s
17:28 <@brimstone> shouldn't that be "stra|ghts" ?
17:34 <@mtown_nerd> heh
17:34 <@mtown_nerd> Semantics!
17:43 <+coil> no
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18:00 <@sasquatc4> anyone use one of those nintendo ds romcarts?
18:00 <@sasquatc4> just wonderin if there are any suggested good ones out there
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19:59 < AstralSin> debian and ubuntu ssh keys are crackable
20:01 <+coil> OMG NO WAY
20:01 < AstralSin> new vulnerability found in the way debian's ssh implementation generates keys
20:02 < AstralSin> er
20:02 < AstralSin> openssl rather
20:02 <@tcstool> old news
20:03 <+coil> OMG HOW DO I FIX THAT
20:03 <@tcstool> install FreeBSD
20:06 < AstralSin> you're welcome for my efforts in trying to let you assholes know about a vulnerability that may effect your systems
20:06 <@sdodson> Workaround: Install anything but Ubuntu or Debian.
20:06 <@sdodson> No one here is dumb enough to run that crap.
20:07 < AstralSin> whatever
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20:08 <+coil> i have fbsd installed tcstool
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20:09 <@tcstool> then you already fixed the problem ;-)
20:11 <+coil> but but but
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21:26 < BlueCopy> mmmm hombrew is nice
21:26 < BlueCopy> err home
21:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Evening, BlueCopter
21:29 < BlueCopy> evening
21:30 < BlueCopy> how are you this fine night?
21:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Not too bad
21:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Having a little bit of fun arguing with Debian developers
21:32 < BlueCopy> about?
21:32 <@Corydon76-dig> One of them thinks the company I work for should mainline its device drivers
21:34 < BlueCopy> and whats the position you are defending?
21:35 < BlueCopy> the opposite?
21:35 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not my decision, and he's not going to convince anybody by arguing with me.  ;-)
21:37 < BlueCopy> did he convince you?
21:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Nope
21:37 <@Corydon76-dig> He convinced me that I had argued for too long and I needed to go eat dinner.  :-)
21:37 < BlueCopy> poppycock!
21:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Not what he was trying to do, though
21:38 < BlueCopy> dinner was long ago
21:38 <@Corydon76-dig> about an hour ago for me
21:38 <@MudFlap> Corydon76-dig: liked your story about superuser today.
21:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Sat down in front of my MythTV to watch some Monk
21:38 <@Corydon76-dig> MudFlap: heheheh
21:39 < BlueCopy> i have to fix my mythtv backend. the qam tuner stoped working for my hd channels after an update and i haven't tracked down the problem yet =(
21:40 <@Corydon76-dig> MudFlap: GNO/ME was the Unix-like OS
21:41 < BlueCopy> i recently got one of those popcorn hour devices for my hd recordings. i need a simple  mythtv frontend for
21:43 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm not familiar with them
21:44 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm actually using a macbook pro for my mythfrontend
21:44  * BlueCopy goes to play with mythtv upnp
21:51 <@sdodson> What's a BlueCopy?
21:51 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: someone you don't want to piss off
21:52 <@sdodson> How the fuck did you guys get Dick Cheney to show up here?
21:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Just not that one
21:53 <@Corydon76-dig> BlueCopter is younger and better looking
21:54 < BlueCopy> sdodson: its a copy of BlueCop
21:54 < BlueCopy> also you can piss me off. just don't piss on me
21:56 <@sdodson> BlueCopy: It's fine, I don't listen to anything Corydon76-dig says anyway.
21:57 <@Corydon76-dig> BlueCopy: not into water sports?
21:57 < BlueCopy> not really
21:58 < BlueCopy> also not into other human wastes
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21:59 <@brimstone> question for peoples, if i have an ap that is bridging wireless and wired, and i setup my linux laptop to bridge it's wired and wireless, would i be able to jump between wired and wireless without losing connections?
21:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, so not into sweat, then, either
22:00 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: assuming you used the same MAC address, yes
22:00 < AstralSin> aw fuck, theres an awesome metal show at the muse tonight and i had no idea
22:00 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig: probably, i guess
22:00  * sdodson teaches Corydon76-dig how the layers work
22:00 <@brimstone> i wouldn't be changing the mac address that i know of
22:00 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: the situation is that you'd need to keep the same IP address
22:01 <@Corydon76-dig> So, yes, if you sent out an arp claiming the IP address from the other MAC, then it should work
22:02 <@sdodson> hooray, congrats guys
22:02 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: if both interfaces used the same MAC, it would work, as well
22:05 <@sdodson> right but that's not a requirement
22:06 <@sdodson> also, I imagine you'd need to tell your OS not to close everything during the transition
22:10 <@brimstone> but it wouldn't know would it?
22:10 <@brimstone> br0 wouldn't go down
22:12 < BlueCopy> brimstone: have you tried it yet? i am curious if it works
22:13 <@brimstone> no, but i can
22:14 <@brimstone> i think
22:14 <@brimstone> i'm not sure well network-manager would play with it
22:14 <@brimstone> i'm thinking at that point, i need to write my own scripts for it
22:14 <@brimstone> set wpa settings on ath0, but don't renew the address on br0 if the ssid is X
22:20 <@sdodson> oh, btw, does briding require iptables?
22:22 <@brimstone> i dunno about briding, but bridging doesn't
22:22 <@sdodson> holy fuck i'm broke as hell
22:22 <@sdodson> brimstone = hero in a half shell
22:23 < BlueCopy> i thought brimstone = sulfur or the rocks around a brim of a volcano because they commonly had sulfur content
22:24 <@sdodson> Yes, brimstone does smell like rotten eggs.
22:24 <@Corydon76-dig> I thought brimstone only smelled like rotten eggs when burning?
22:25 <@brimstone> i try to keep that to a minimum
22:25 < BlueCopy> TURTLE POWER!
22:26  * Corydon76-dig watches BlueCopy's webcam
22:26 < BlueCopy> no you don't
22:26 < BlueCopy> the red light comes on when people watch it
22:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Remind me what the URL is again
22:27 <@sdodson> http://zomgstopstalkingmecorydon.com
22:27 <@sdodson> completely-fucked-disc-from-netflix++
22:28 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: you should get that domain and put that pic of me sitting on your lap at OZ3 on the main page
22:29 <@sdodson> wait, you were in my lap?
22:29 <@Corydon76-dig> duh, there's a pic of it
22:29 < BlueCopy> he might have drugged you and then taken compromising pictures
22:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Sitting crossways, my arm around your neck
22:30 <@someninjaserver> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d5a_1211301449
22:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Scott was conscious the entire time, in a room with other people
22:30 <@Corydon76-dig> He was rather drunk, but very conscious
22:33 < BlueCopy> wtf? iphone is last?
22:33 < BlueCopy> they should have shown my HTC Kaiser and been like best phone in the universe
22:34 < BlueCopy> except crappy graphics drivers
22:34 <@someninjaserver> i love my iphone
22:35 <@sdodson> my treo isn't in there
22:35 < BlueCopy> i like the iphone but i want gps and 3g in my phone
22:35 <@sdodson> i want to not take it in the ass from apple
22:36 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: just Microsoft?
22:36 < BlueCopy> i am going to upgrade to an android phone most likely
22:37 <@sdodson> I need a new phone, but I'm not sure what to get.
22:37 <@sdodson> I'd like to see if the blackberry 9000s are really going to be $800 phones
22:37 < BlueCopy> some people have successfully flashed android to my model phone so i might be possible for me in the future
22:37 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: no, not so much
22:38 <@sdodson> oh and i think i want off of verizon
22:39 < BlueCopy> i hated verizon
22:39 < BlueCopy> i am much happier with AT&T but still not great all the time
22:39 <@sdodson> i hate them only because they gimp the phones, apparently they've committed to not doing that in the future
22:40 <@sdodson> oh, and i hate that the flyer they just sent has some Fresh Prince of Belaire looking dumbass and lists "Mobile Web 2.0" as a feature, wtf is that?
22:40 < BlueCopy> sdodson: i didn't like having to seem edit my motorola phone just to get bluetooth obex working or get my own custom ringtones
22:40 <@sdodson> ya, that sucks
22:40 < BlueCopy> its ridiculous you have to hack your phone just to use basic features that are in there
22:40 <@sdodson> apparently they're not going to do that anymore.
22:41 <@sdodson> orly, i need to use wires to sync my wireless phone, kthnx no
22:41 < BlueCopy> mobile web 2.0 sounds second generationish
22:41 < BlueCopy> it must be better then mobile web 1.0 thats for sure
22:41 < AstralSin> who knows python here?
22:42 < BlueCopy> i own a python book does that count?
22:42 <@sdodson> who doesn't?
22:42 <@sdodson> python is le easy
22:42 < AstralSin> am i correct in saying that the contents of a function are defined by the indentation below the function definition?
22:43 < AstralSin> instead of being encapsulated by {} like in other languages
22:43 <@sdodson> yes, it uses whitespace
22:43 < AstralSin> k
22:43 < AstralSin> i've decided in my drunken haze to finally pick up a little python
22:43 < AstralSin> looks pretty straightforward, but wanted to make sure of the whitespace factor
22:44 <@Corydon76-dig> AstralSin: just make sure that whatever whitespace you use is consistent.  Don't mix spaces and tabs
22:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Indenting by 8 spaces and indenting by a tab are seen by python as two completely different things
22:45 <+coil> bear
22:46 < AstralSin> i normally keep my whitespace consistent anyway, i use tabs and spaces where necessary, i never use 2-4 spaces, its either a single space or a tab
22:47 < AstralSin> easier that way
23:02 <@sdodson> I think everyone prefers spaces over tabs.
23:02 <@sdodson> you'll submit a patch and someone will tell you that you've broken whitespace
23:19  * brimstone tabs
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