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00:46 <@dasunt> G'dam why does flash blow goats under linux?
00:47 <@ShadowHntr> lol
00:47 <@ShadowHntr> you on 32 or 64-bit Linux
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> i had to install i586 firefox to get Flash to work 100% under AMD64 openSUSE
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> but that wasn't very difficult.
00:49 <@sdodson> only fools bother with 64bit
00:49 <@sdodson> eep, i didn't notice you said you were running that before saying that
00:49 <@sdodson> sorry
00:51 <@dasunt> 32 bit.
00:51 <@dasunt> I'm using opera right now, but I'm about ready to switch over to firefox just for flashblock.
00:51 <@sdodson> flash 10 seems faster on my laptop
00:53 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh.
00:53 <@ShadowHntr> gotcha.
00:58 <@dasunt> Here's flash + opera on debian etch:
00:58 <@dasunt> Webpage:  Here computer, let me launch 20 flash ads.
00:58 <@dasunt> Flash engine:  *Barf, barf, barf*
00:58 <@sdodson> Such an animated exchange.
00:58 <@dasunt> Opera:  I'll wait on you forever Flash!  One day, you'll unfreeze.
00:59 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
00:59 <@ShadowHntr> :)
00:59 <@dasunt> And since Opera's flashblock only prevents flash from being displayed, it will still lock up.
00:59 <@dasunt> <_<
01:00 <@dasunt> In a way, it's amazing.
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> hehehehe
01:00 <@dasunt> I could play mp3s on a 486.
01:00 <@dasunt> I could browse the web on a pentium with 128 MB of memory.
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> i remember when i could do that.
01:01 <@dasunt> Now with a processor that is much, much faster, flash has made large chunks of the web slower than that old pentium.
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> *nods*
01:01 <@dasunt> Admittedly, 9/10ths of that is Myspace and other social networking sites, so I don't tend to worry about it.
01:01 <@ShadowHntr> yeah hear ya there.
01:02 <@sdodson> 128MB of memory was a lot for a pentium
01:02 <@sdodson> My PII had 96MB
01:02 <@ShadowHntr> i had a Pentium 120 with i think maybe 64MB (not sure, may have been 32MB)
01:03 <@ShadowHntr> it was originally a Pentium 75 with a Pentium Overdrive in it
01:03 <@ShadowHntr> remember those things?
01:03 <@ShadowHntr> the Overdrives?
01:07 <@dasunt> The later pentiums (the 166 MMXes, for example) could get up to 128MB.
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> cool
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> i remember i put Solaris 8 on a Pentium 100 with 32mb ram.
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> worked alright
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> but i was just learning back then
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> then i got a Sun Ultra 5 and I put Solaris 9 on it
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> then I started beta testing new updates to regular Solaris.
01:09 <@dasunt> It has to be nostalgia, and I know I can do cooler things faster with new hardware, but damn, useability wise, we sure haven't made many gains.
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> i finally started to understand how Solaris worked, and I started to like it.
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> yes, i hear ya there.
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> My adage is "One man's trash is my treasure."
01:10 <@dasunt> I think the only thing I appreciate is more multimedia capabilities.
01:10 <@ShadowHntr> some people have called me a packrat, but i don't think of that as an insult.
01:11 <@dasunt> I've tried to balance out my hording.
01:12 <@ShadowHntr> lol
01:12 <@ShadowHntr> i'm trying to clean out as well
01:12 <@dasunt> I'm trying to keep what I'm going to use.
01:12 <@ShadowHntr> modernize.
01:12 <@dasunt> But I don't mind older things as well, especially for household projects.
01:12 <@dasunt> Er, household items.
01:12 <@ShadowHntr> ever since i built my Opteron workstation i'm starting to emphasize power efficiency and quiet operation in my builds.
01:13 <@dasunt> Old pots and pans?  Old furniture?  Is it functional and doesn't look too bad?  I'll use it.
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> i'm still gonna try to keep a RISC system of some kind in my setup, so i can learn the hardware.
01:13 <@sdodson> Your opteron is risc.
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> yeah on the inside
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> i meant ala SPARC, MIPS or IBM POWER.
01:14 <@ShadowHntr> i have a SPARC in my environment
01:14 <@ShadowHntr> i'm going to keep it.
01:14 <@ShadowHntr> i have an SGI Octane at my mom's house in Seattle that i'd like to ship down here
01:14 <@ShadowHntr> and play with
01:14 <@ShadowHntr> but i'm concerned about the extreme shipping costs, cause it's so fucking heavy.
01:14 <@ShadowHntr> got that Octane from Boeing Surplus in Seattle for 1 dollar.
01:15 <@ShadowHntr> hard disk pulled, but otherwise fully loaded.
01:15 <@ShadowHntr> don't know the specs cause i didn't have the capabilities to power it up and do an inventory, but i can once it's here.
01:15 <@ShadowHntr> i'd like to try out IRIX at least once
01:15 <@ShadowHntr> even if i find out i don
01:15 <@ShadowHntr> don't like it
01:15 <@ShadowHntr> i can at least say i've tried it.
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01:16 <@ShadowHntr> sup rattleX
01:17 <@sdodson> Why not scout local auctions for one?
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> haven't heard of many auctions locally
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> that hold much computer equipment like that
01:18 <@dasunt> Okay, naptime.
01:18 <@dasunt> Gotta get sleep.
01:19 <@ShadowHntr> good hearing fromy a
01:23 <@dasunt> You too!
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09:40 <@dc0de> mr0nin all
10:34 <@sdodson> DC0DE HAI!
10:35 <@oddball> morning
10:35 <@dc0de> sup sdodson
10:36 <@oddball> And fuck you to whoever decided to ignore state law and use his grill on the little balcony attached to his apartment in our complex.
10:36 <@dc0de> oddball: apartment fire?
10:36 <@oddball> coming home to a bunch of firetrucks == not fun
10:36 <@dc0de> damn
10:36 <@sdodson> bummer i can't slipstream 64bit vista on xp 32bit
10:36 <@sdodson> my neighbor has a grill sitting on their deck
10:36 <@oddball> yep, otherside of the complex from us.  2 apartments are toast.
10:36 <@sdodson> i'm waiting for the day i can call the cops and get them evicted
10:37 <@oddball> sdodson: this an apartment or house?
10:37 <@sdodson> Note to self: Do not rent where oddball does
10:37 <@sdodson> oddball: apartment
10:37 <@sdodson> the building across the way
10:37 <@oddball> Ah, ok.
10:37 <@sdodson> In the complex across the street a whole building burned :(
10:38 <@oddball> The pissy thing is that the complex has a bunch of grills scattered around for folks to use safely away from the buildings.
10:39 <@sdodson> We've got two of those very very nice holand grills up at the pool
10:40 <@sdodson> http://www.hollandgrill.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.detail/prodID/119/index.htm
10:40 <@oddball> These are the same kind as you'd find at a state park.  Not great, but functional
10:41 <@sdodson> require charcoal? that sounds like a pain
10:41 <@oddball> gas is cheating
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10:42 <@sdodson> I imagine gas is also 100x safer
10:43 <@oddball> that and the fucktards that live here keep breaking the gates, I don't want them playing with gas grills
10:43 <@sdodson> I'll forego that delightful lighter fluid taste in favor of having my shit not burn down.
10:43 <@oddball> ummm... you'd be wrong
10:43 <@sdodson> Ya, there's a few 13 year old monkeys running around here that have me wanting to move.
10:44 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: why, do you have nutballs with guns who like shooting holes in propane canisters?
10:45 <@Corydon76-dig> They make such lovely fireballs when you puncture the canisters
10:45 <@oddball> no, but like I said... if they can't figure out how to operate a RFID card reader, I don't want them playing with explosives.
10:46 <@oddball> I'd give it one nice day before a gas grill turned into a fireball due to stupidity around here.
10:46 <@sdodson> I think these only work when the lid is open or something funky to prevent people from flooding the area with natural gas.
10:47 <@sdodson> I guess if the charcoal grills are away from structure they're pretty safe, but I sure don't want some dumbass dowsing his charcoal with a litre of lighter fluid anywhere near a structure.
10:47 <@oddball> ummm.. so you can't cook anything with the lid down?
10:47 <@sdodson> nerp
10:47 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: lighter fluid is not the only way to start a charcoal grill
10:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Most of the afficionados use paper and a chimney
10:48 <@oddball> right, open flames close to structure (regardless of fuel = bad
10:48 <@dc0de> actually, if you shoot a canister, you have to supply the flame source... otherwise, it's just a rocket from the gas releasing
10:48 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: generally the metal-metal friction causes a spark
10:49 <@oddball> nope
10:49 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig: nope, the canisters are made from a non-sparking metal.
10:49 <@oddball> dc0de is right on this one
10:49 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: I don't think there are very many grill afficionados around here.
10:49 <@oddball> as are most bullets
10:49 <@sdodson> you guys are dumbasses, I saw this in a movie once
10:49 <@dc0de> even if you shot it with a steel slug, it wouldn't spark.
10:50 <@dc0de> sdodson: oh, damn... busted again by the movies.
10:50 <@sdodson> Please do not shoot the thermonuclear warheads!</nick cage>  <--- proof
10:50 <@sdodson> err wait, that was the scientology dude
10:50 <@oddball> yeah, that was Travolta
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, I think the bigger risk with nuclear warheads is the expellation of radioactive material
10:51 <@dc0de> yeah, as if a bullet would crack the containment.
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, if it's using ceramics for the containment
10:52 <@sdodson> People were all worried about LNG tanks in vehicles. Then they did some tests where they smashed vehicles and the only recognizable thing after the fact was the tank
10:53 <@sdodson> CNG? I guess it's not liquified
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10:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Morning, Arafat
10:54 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig: armor piercing rounds aren't commonplace in handguns...
10:55 <@dc0de> most handguns (save for stefanie's) can't supply the energy needed even if they had AP rounds.
10:55 <@dc0de> and no, they don't use ceramics for containment.
10:55 <@sdodson> I wonder what percentage of presnetations given at LUGs are done from ppt format slides.
10:55 <@dc0de> sdodson: I use PPT format in OO.
10:56 <@dc0de> since it's the most widely used format.
10:56 <@dc0de> all of my OO is configured to save as MS files...
10:56 <@dc0de> so I don't have to worry about compatibility with the rest of the world.
10:58 <@sdodson> dc0de: you fixor all your ssh keys?
10:58 <@dc0de> huh?
10:58 <@dc0de> did I have a problem with them?
10:58 <@sdodson> and ssl keys
10:59 <@sdodson> you're a ubuntu user aren't you?
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10:59 <@dc0de> yes.
10:59 <@dc0de> oh that, yes.
10:59 <@sdodson> new keys, right?
11:03 <@dc0de> I have to go back and read the alert.
11:05 <@dc0de> no, I didn't create new keys...
11:06 <@dc0de> I simply updated, as per the Cert notification.
11:06 <@dc0de> http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA08-137A.html
11:08 <@dc0de> since I know who connects to my SSH servers, (restricted by authenticated Firewall rule), it's not necessary to regenerate all of my keys.
11:10 <@sdodson> authenticated firewall rule?
11:12 <@dc0de> user authenticated, with specific allowed hosts as sources.
11:12 <@dc0de> must provide user/pass, and be from the right ip address.
11:13 <@sdodson> How's that done?
11:13 <@dc0de> using a firewall.
11:13 <@dc0de> the one I'm using is Checkpoint.
11:13 <@sdodson> Using the Internet?!
11:13 <@sdodson> So it's a vpn?
11:14 <@dc0de> no, it is not.
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12:39 <@mtown_nerd> http://www.spike.com/video/monster-camp/2981250?ns=1  This...THIS is the mind-curse that Blizzard has given the world!
12:39 <@mtown_nerd> >_
12:39 <@mtown_nerd> >_<
12:40 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: doesn't that assume that none of your users will be compromised?
12:40 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: shhh, ignorance is bliss
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12:41 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig: yup. all two of them
12:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
12:42 <@dc0de> I'm only running ubuntu on my laptop, and in our lab.
12:42 <@Corydon76-dig> So probably not that much of an increased risk
12:42 <@dc0de> all of the rest of the operational stuff isn't my problem, and we don't use Ubuntu as our mailine distro at work.
12:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, so since the host keys aren't weak, an attacker might be able to see only one side of your SSH sessions
12:44 <@sdodson> fact of the matter is that if you're not regenerating key material and you're allowing users with bad keys then you're at risk.
12:44 <@Corydon76-dig> and not the part with the password
12:44 <@sdodson> and/or
12:44 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: you're at risk simply be being connected to the Internet
12:44 <@dc0de> well, then, I guess I'm going to be regenerating my keys...
12:44 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: Thanks for that multisyllable NOOP.
12:45 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: security is never a no-risk proposition; it's about managing risk
12:45 <@sdodson> "Drunk drivers are dangerous!" "All drivers are dangerous!" LQALWS
12:45 <@Corydon76-dig> "What risks am I willing to accept?"
12:46 <@sdodson> It's like you're typing just for the sake of flipping bits.
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: if that's what you think, you're certainly free to believe it.
12:47 <@sdodson> Well you're not really saying anything of consequence.
12:48 <@Corydon76-dig> I dunno, informing dc0de that an attacker could possibly read half of his SSH sessions, if he was using a weak key, may have convinced him to at least check that.
12:49 <@dc0de> I checked with ssh-vulnkey, and they're all fine.
12:49 <@Corydon76-dig> and I think that's worthwhile and of consequence
12:49 <@dc0de> and I appreciate your concern, and notification.
12:50 <@sdodson> hooray
12:51 <@dc0de> oh, and my keys have been regenned.
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16:10 <@brimstone> wait, hold on, postgres doesn't support "delete from where limit 1" ?
16:11 <@brimstone> how else am i suppose to remove duplicates?
16:13 <@sdodson> brimstone: wtf does that do?
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16:19 <@brimstone> allows me to remove a duplicate record
16:19 <@sdodson> brimstone: why? I don't see how that statement makes sense.
16:20 <@brimstone> it's only part of it
16:20 <@sdodson> brimstone: show me all your cards!
16:20 <@brimstone> delete from table where coloumn = "value" limit 1;
16:21 <@sdodson> wouldn't that also delete single instances?
16:21 <@brimstone> right
16:22 <@sdodson> brimstone: so why not select unique foo from bar into newbar ?
16:23 <@brimstone> because i'm already in overtime and i just want to get this done so i can go home
16:25 <@ShadowHntr> what
16:25 <@ShadowHntr> $45/hr not good enough for ya? ;)
16:25 <@brimstone> ha!
16:26 <@ShadowHntr> j/k i know how a long week can be.
16:26 <@brimstone> i wish i got $45/hr
16:26 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: i was at $23/hr during my overtime (any amount over 8 hrs/day) and $31/hr any amount over 12 hrs/day
16:26 <@ShadowHntr> i pulled a few 13 hr days when i worked for Motorola
16:26 <@brimstone> ick
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> not fun
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> but the paycheck made it worth it.
16:27 <@brimstone> it's a little ok though, i'm excited about this project
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> cool
16:27 <@brimstone> it's normalizing abunch of user crap
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> cool
16:27 <@brimstone> usernames, storage area, etc
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> i'm hoping that a few of these job leads i'm working on right now bears fruit
16:28 <@ShadowHntr> even though the pay isn't great, i wouldn't mind being a computer operator. Dollar General is considering me for a position working on IBM big iron.
16:28 <@brimstone> Dollar General?
16:28 <@brimstone> heh, i hope they don't pay you in store merchendise
16:28 <@brimstone> i could see you getting a big soup spoon, a pair of flip flops and a wiffle ball bat as a pay check
16:29 <@sdodson> brimstone is funny
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16:41 <@ShadowHntr> HAHAHA
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: dunno about that, but it's a hell of a long drive to their headquarters
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> Goodlettsville is in the OTEHR side of Nashville.
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> er
16:41 <@ShadowHntr> OTHER even
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17:10 <@dc0de> Dollar General is a >$6 billion company...
17:10 <@dc0de> they sorta have some money
17:10 < AstralSin> heh, dollar general has their own IT outsourcing thing now
17:10 < AstralSin> its funny
17:11 <@dc0de> $9.5 million in Net Sales in 2007
17:11 <@dc0de> doh, 9.5 BILLION
17:12 <@dc0de> Gross Profit of over 25%.
17:12 < AstralSin> hm
17:12 <@aestetix> yo
17:12 < AstralSin> that may have been a good stock to buy last year
17:13 <@dc0de> 'cept they aren't publically traded anymore.
17:14 < AstralSin> yep, i see that
17:15 <@aestetix> oh boy
17:15 <@aestetix> the hope project made the gothamist
17:17 <@sdodson> I bet that means something to someone who knows what the fuck the gothamist is, but I don't, and I think I'm ok with not knowing.
17:17 <@aestetix> oh
17:17 <@aestetix> http://www.gothamist.com/
17:17 <@aestetix> It's a New Yorker publication.
17:17 <@aestetix> Has nothing to do with goths :p
17:18 <@aestetix> Except for... you know... the whole Gotham City thing
17:19 < AstralSin> most goths don't even know what the word goth means
17:19 < AstralSin> they think it means The Crow and NIN
17:19 < AstralSin> either that or Dimmu Borgir and devil worship
17:19 <@sdodson> wtf is that?
17:20 < AstralSin> wtf is what?
17:20 < AstralSin> dimmu borgir?
17:20 <@sdodson> uh ya, that
17:20 < AstralSin> its a black metal band
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17:22 < AstralSin> im drinking an interesting beer right now... Buffalo Bill's Brewery Orange Blossom Cream Ale
17:22 < AstralSin> its orangey
17:27 <@sdodson> walmart was really trying to get rid of the Brita filter packs that came with Nalgene bottles.
17:27 <@sdodson> quick, lets sell these before people notice they're toxic!
17:28 < AstralSin> hahahaaha
17:28 <@sdodson> Same price, so i figured what the hell
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17:30 < AstralSin> there's legislation in the works in tennessee that will allow normal stores to carry liquor
17:30 < AstralSin> which fuckin sucks
17:30 < AstralSin> because they'll only carry the stock standard liquors and wines AND i'll have to go to a damn grocery store to get them
17:31 < AstralSin> and they'll put liquor stores out of business
17:32 <@ShadowHntr> not sure if i'd like that idea
17:32 <@ShadowHntr> i wouldn't mind going to a grocery store for liquor
17:32 < AstralSin> i hate that idea, i like going to liquor stores
17:32 <@ShadowHntr> depends on how they implement that
17:32 <@ShadowHntr> in washington state, they can sell wine in grocery stores
17:33 <@ShadowHntr> and most of them have a rather good selection, too
17:33 < AstralSin> they can in several states, but this is hillbilly bumfuck tennessee and i know the kind of people that run grocery stores in the area, they'll let the distributors fill em up with a bunch of cheap shit wines and liquors and not give a second thought to it
17:34 <@mtown_nerd> Honestly, though, there's really no incentive for them to supply some of the finer varieties of either liquor or wine, simply because their MO is usually to sell the most - cheapest - groceries to as many people as possible.
17:35 < AstralSin> thats my point, that's why i don't want the legislation to pass, liquor stores will actually carry the more extravagant/little known wines that aren't your cheap everyday crap
17:35 < AstralSin> but liquor stores make most of their money from the standard crap that everyone buys, if it passes, they'll go out of business
17:36 < AstralSin> the legislation has been put off for a year while the politicians decide what to do (conjure up more money from walmart and kroger to pay off the legislation)
17:37 <@ShadowHntr> lol
17:37 <@ShadowHntr> :P
17:40 <@mtown_nerd> The immediate ramifications would be pretty badf orl iquor stores, I think...for the reasons you already stated.  But part of me wonders if, with time and customer pressure, that wouldn't correct itself
17:40 <@mtown_nerd> so thatp eople started demanding better stuff from groceries?  :o
17:40 <@mtown_nerd> *grocery stores
17:41 <@mtown_nerd> I think a lot of the initial damage would be done because people here simply aren't used to it.
17:45 < AstralSin> the bottom line is, i don't wanna have to go in a damn grocery store to get my drink :)
17:45 <@mtown_nerd> haha
17:45 <@mtown_nerd> And the truth comes out!
17:45 <@mtown_nerd> :p\
17:46 < AstralSin> that and i prefer a large selection
17:46 < AstralSin> guh, this beer is gross
17:46 < AstralSin> sea dog raspberry wheat ale tastes like cherry robitussin
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17:47 <@sdodson> As long as grocery stores don't take pay checks in exchange for booze I think the liqour stores are fine.
17:47 <@dc0de> damn, this is funny... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roWwhWFlmrI&NR=1
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17:48 <@mtown_nerd> afk, grocery store :P
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19:45 <+coil> wat
19:46 < AstralSin> this jewish beer tastes like wet garbage
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20:41  * dasunt biked 40 miles today.
20:45 <@ShadowHntr> cool
20:46 < AstralSin> jesus christ, WHY?
20:47 <@brimstone> a better question is, did you bike with hot chicks?
20:47 <@brimstone> with a close second being, inside or out?
21:06 <@sdodson> Anyone read a decent book lately?
21:07 < AstralSin> i've been reading The Official Guide to Ethical Hacking, great book, got solid technical information on real-world offensive security programming
21:08 <@sdodson> I'm already super uber haxor, no need for that.
21:09 < AstralSin> i bet :)
21:09 <@sdodson> It sounds like you've got doubt in your heart.
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> i got a few books on my wish list that i'd like to pick up some time soon
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> The Dark Tower series by Steven King
21:10 < AstralSin> could be
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> and The Uplift Saga by David Brin
21:10 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: fiction or nonfic
21:11 <@ShadowHntr> i'd like to get some Agatha Christie and read some of her stuff
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21:11 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: Either I guess. I'd like to read more fiction as I've got a whole stack of businessy books I should read.
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> gotcha.
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> any particular genres you into?
21:12 <@sdodson> I don't know yet. I'm sort of just starting.
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21:12 <@ShadowHntr> that's cool
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> what kind of movies do you like
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> any particular genre more than others?
21:13 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: I like porn.
21:13 <@ShadowHntr> well there's literotica.com for ya :P
21:13 <@sdodson> Nah, that'd be a bit odd.
21:13  * ShadowHntr pulls sdodson's head out of the gutter :P
21:14 < AstralSin> grr this government job resume submittal thing is a pain in the ass
21:14 <@ShadowHntr> i know the feeling
21:15 <@ShadowHntr> the application system for state gov't sucks :P
21:15 < AstralSin> i clicked next on the little questionairre thing 10 minutes ago, its still sitting there
21:15 < AstralSin> this is a federal job
21:15 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
21:15 < ware> hai!
21:15 < ware> penis
21:15 < ware> thats all
21:15 < ware> g'night
21:15 < AstralSin> i hope concept calls me tomorrow
21:21 <@ShadowHntr> ditto
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21:24 < geoffscoffee> evenin
21:25 <@ShadowHntr> sup geoff
21:25 < AstralSin> hi
21:26 < geoffscoffee> hail the gang's all here
21:28 < geoffscoffee> question: Anyone ever take any of the tech classes at Nashville State Comm?
21:28 < geoffscoffee> http://ww2.nscc.edu/informationtechnology/CISInfo.asp
21:29 < AstralSin> not me
21:31 <@ShadowHntr> only online through RODP
21:31 <@ShadowHntr> www.rodp.org
21:33 < geoffscoffee> what did you think?
21:37 <@ShadowHntr> they were pretty good.
21:37 <@ShadowHntr> you going to do traditional classes or distance learning/rodp
21:38 < geoffscoffee> depends, but I'm leaning online
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> cool
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> if you wanna do online
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> i suggest RODP
21:38 <@ShadowHntr> the courses will all transfer and a full degree program is available online
21:39 <@ShadowHntr> w/o stepping foot in a classroom if you're so inclined...
21:39 < geoffscoffee> I know it would work better for my life
21:40 <@Dementia> Hi Geoff!
21:40 < geoffscoffee> HEy
21:40 <@Dementia> How you doin?
21:41 < geoffscoffee> hangin in there, pickin' brains
21:41 <@Dementia> Cool. What are you doin these days?
21:42 < geoffscoffee> Well, for money I run a business card print shop, Also I chase after my wife and my son
21:42 < geoffscoffee> for different reasons
21:42 < geoffscoffee> ;)
21:43 < geoffscoffee> looking into online ed
21:44 <@Dementia> Sounds cool
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21:47 <@brimstone> http://www.bussimulatorgame.com/
21:51 < geoffscoffee> What about you, D?
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22:01 <@Dementia> I'm just busy settling into Chicago
22:07 < geoffscoffee> HOw's the fit so far?
22:09 < geoffscoffee> Hey ShadowHntr, did you get a full degree or just a la carte it?
22:09 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not done yet
22:09 <@ShadowHntr> i'm ala carting for now
22:11 < geoffscoffee> seems really cheap, I like that
22:11 < geoffscoffee> what are you wanting to get out of it?
22:11 <@ShadowHntr> i want to continue going to school while i work full-time
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> and if i can, go towards an associates degree at first.
22:12 <@ShadowHntr> :)
22:13 < geoffscoffee> cool, I need to work full + time
22:23 <@Dementia> geoffscoffee: so far so good. The winter was hell, but it's warming up now, and I like the place now that the trees are green and I can get out more.
22:24 < geoffscoffee> I have been there in January...very brisk
22:24 < geoffscoffee> but i grew up in Ohio, so I like more winter than here
22:27 <@Dementia> Well this past winter was the worst one in a decade
22:27 <@Dementia> We got something like 85" of snow, all told
22:27 < geoffscoffee> geesh
22:27 < geoffscoffee> at least you have Intelligentsia coffee there
22:28 < geoffscoffee> I covet their espresso
22:28 <@Dementia> have what?
22:29 <@Dementia> I'm living in the burbs so I haven't been into the city a lot... what is this coffee you speak of?
22:33 < dasunt_> Tired.
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22:43 < geoffscoffee> http://www.intelligentsiacoffee.com/
22:43 < geoffscoffee> best coffee roaster in the US
22:43 < geoffscoffee> home of world champion baristas
22:44 < geoffscoffee> or, in Chicago speak: "Dah Chit!"
22:45 <@Dementia> Sweet :) I'll have to check it out.
22:48 < geoffscoffee> way better than anything I've ever made
22:48 <@Dementia> I gotta get some sleep. I'm working early shifts these days
22:48 < geoffscoffee> sweet dreams
22:48 <@Dementia> Catch ya later
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23:06 <@sdodson> we can dance!
23:07 <@sdodson> man, crappy 80s music stuck in my head, get it out!
23:12  * geoffscoffee sings "You can dance, you can jive. Having the time of your life"
23:14  * brimstone will dance if he wants to
23:14  * brimstone will leave his friends behind
23:38 < geoffscoffee> night
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