--- Log opened Sat May 17 00:00:12 2008 00:04 <@Jagobah> 20" CRT? 00:04 <@Jagobah> can it do over 100hz in any resolutions at 1024x768 or below? 00:06 <@sdodson> Wow, I know where to dump my 15 year old trash next time I don't want to pay disposal fees. 00:33 <@ShadowHntr> w0t 00:34 <@ShadowHntr> 350+ KB/sec on the new NIN album FLAC torrent 00:47 * ShadowHntr is jammin' to Nine Inch Nails - 1,000,000 (MP3) 00:47 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig: *ping* 01:36 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["End of line."] 02:59 -!- Opheria [i=Opheria@c-69-180-209-3.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 03:12 <+coil> hi 03:12 <+coil> diaf everyone 03:12 <+coil> just...diaf! 07:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Jagobah: I don't know the frequencies, but yes, it can do 1280x1024 09:07 -!- Opheria [i=Opheria@c-69-180-209-3.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #Se2600 09:21 < ware> wewt 09:25 -!- TieFighter [n=TieFight@adsl-241-153-5.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 09:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o TieFighter] by ChanServ 09:27 <@TieFighter> Whats up 2600? 09:34 < AstralSin> hi 10:10 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@fileserver.ghruaim.net] has joined #se2600 10:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mtown_nerd] by ChanServ 10:42 <@polerin> allo tie 10:43 <@TieFighter> whats up 11:03 <@polerin> just getting stuff ready to take to recycle 11:09 -!- TieFighter [n=TieFight@adsl-241-153-5.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:43 -!- TieFighter [n=TieFight@adsl-149-131-187.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 11:43 -!- TieFighter [n=TieFight@adsl-149-131-187.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:15 <@polerin> 7 crt monitors, 1 lcd, three printers (including that heavy commercial grade), 6 towers, 1 fax machine, 1 scanner , and various cards and HDD's. Not a bad haul 12:15 * polerin heads out to get rid of it 12:18 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 12:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 12:39 <@Jagobah> ! 12:50 <@ShadowHntr> sup? 13:07 < AstralSin> huh, firefox 3b5 pukes on my valid rss feed 13:07 <@ShadowHntr> rc1 killed all my addons 13:07 <@ShadowHntr> rc1 is out 13:08 < AstralSin> most of my addons were dead with 3b5 13:08 < AstralSin> yeah, i saw 13:08 < AstralSin> i would install it but i'm lazy, i'll let the apt repos get it then i'll upgrade :) 13:09 <@ShadowHntr> heh 13:09 <@ShadowHntr> can't stand ubuntu 13:09 <@ShadowHntr> i must be the only one in the universe that doesn't think ubuntu is the best thing since beer in a bottle ;P 13:09 < AstralSin> i think its great 13:09 < AstralSin> some people gripe that they can't use ubuntu like they use other linux distros but i've never had a problem with it 13:09 <@ShadowHntr> opensuse here 13:10 < AstralSin> i use it the same way i use anything else 13:10 < AstralSin> i hate suse 13:10 <@ShadowHntr> i grew up on slackware 13:10 < AstralSin> slackware pisses me off 13:10 <@ShadowHntr> and compiled everything from source. 13:10 <@ShadowHntr> call me oldschool. 13:10 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't mind taking an hour to compile my kernel when 2.2 came out. 13:10 <@ShadowHntr> i tried ubuntu with hoary hedgehog 13:10 < AstralSin> you're basically forced out of using gnome with slackware, you can install one of the 3rd party gnome distributions for slack but then you have a bunch of other shit to re-upgrade 13:11 <@ShadowHntr> took me over a full day of continuous downloads on dialup trying just to get NIS and NFS support for the system 13:11 <@ShadowHntr> so i gave up and installed slackware instead. 13:11 < AstralSin> dude, ubuntu has evolved *alot* since then 13:11 <@ShadowHntr> yeah, but first impressions... 13:11 <@ShadowHntr> :P 13:11 < AstralSin> hoary is OLD 13:11 < AstralSin> fuck first impressions 13:11 <@ShadowHntr> i tried it 13:11 <@ShadowHntr> when it was new. 13:12 < AstralSin> you have to keep an open mind with free software, you cant try something once 5 years ago and decide that it sucks forever 13:12 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't say it sucked 13:12 <@ShadowHntr> it's just not for me. 13:13 < AstralSin> i tend to at least try each new release for the major distros when they come out 13:13 < AstralSin> suse, fedora, ubuntu 13:13 <@ShadowHntr> i'd like to try out the newer fedora releases. 13:13 < AstralSin> havent tried fedora 9 yet, i've heard nothing but good things though 13:13 < AstralSin> and classically, i hated fedora 13:13 <@ShadowHntr> i'm desktop environment agnostic. don't really care which one i use as long as it works. 13:14 < AstralSin> i despised 7 and before 13:14 <@ShadowHntr> i've had good experiences with GNOME, KDE and XFCE. 13:14 <@ShadowHntr> hell my first exposure to linux was on fvwm95 13:14 < AstralSin> kde is too cluttered for me 13:14 < AstralSin> yeah, me too 13:14 < AstralSin> i prefer gnome and xfce over anything else 13:15 <@ShadowHntr> and i've messed with CDE as well. 13:15 < AstralSin> cde sucks ass 13:15 <@ShadowHntr> lol 13:15 <@ShadowHntr> i used it when i tried Solaris 8 13:15 <@sdodson> AstralSin: why'd you hate fedora 7? 13:15 <@ShadowHntr> now that Solaris uses GNOME, it's rather nice. 13:16 <@ShadowHntr> but i think for older systems, my favorite window manager is Window Maker 13:16 * ShadowHntr likes NeXTStep :) 13:16 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: And a browser newer than Netscape 4.79, that's a nice feature they introduced in Solaris 9! 13:16 < AstralSin> sdodson: things just didnt feel complete or intuitive, i figure why use something like that when i can use debian, ubuntu, pclinuxos, that have much better administrative functions 13:16 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: they've had mozilla come standard since solaris 9 13:18 < AstralSin> and yum has always been inferior to apt, imo 13:18 < AstralSin> i formed a strong hatred of rpm long ago 13:19 <@sdodson> AstralSin: For any logical reason or just bs? 13:20 < AstralSin> before yum, you might as well have compiled from source, it had no dependency resolution 13:21 < AstralSin> it only told you what you were missing, which i could find by reading a readme, anyway 13:21 < AstralSin> and apt has *alot* more packages to choose from 13:21 <@ShadowHntr> i like the dependency resolution with yast 13:21 <@ShadowHntr> on opensuse 13:22 <@sdodson> It would pull in any depedencies it knew how to find. It's done that for all of time. 13:22 < AstralSin> it never did that for me 13:22 < AstralSin> it would just flunk out and say i needed a list of 15 packages 13:22 <@sdodson> http://people.mozilla.com/~polvi/threedom/status-bars.html 13:23 < AstralSin> but it looks like fedora is getting better 13:23 < AstralSin> a fellow debian fan of mine has been trying out fedora 9 since it came out and he says he likes it 13:24 <@sdodson> I applaud your friend for joining those of us who bathe regularly. 13:25 < AstralSin> oh, he's still an ubuntu user, he was just trying out fedora to see what it was like 13:25 <@ShadowHntr> :) 13:25 < AstralSin> he said its still not as polished as ubuntu 13:25 < AstralSin> tell me, sdodson, why do you think fedora is so fantastic? 13:26 <@sdodson> Fedora drives solutions rather than quick hacks. 13:26 < AstralSin> elaborate 13:27 < AstralSin> that means jack shit without specifics 13:27 <@sdodson> Doing the heavy lifting to fix architectural problems rather than brute forcing things like video driver handling. 13:28 < AstralSin> ive never had any problems with my video driver handling in ubuntu 13:28 <@sdodson> I'm not suggesting you would have. 13:29 < AstralSin> so why does that make fedora appeal to me? 13:29 < AstralSin> i don't give a shit about some hypothetical solution that fedora might have under certain specific conditions, i wanna hear a real, plausible everday scenario that makes fedora worthwhile 13:29 <@sdodson> Because it's driving long term progress rather than living for today? 13:31 < AstralSin> so yeah, some hypothetical ideal of something or another, great 13:35 <@sdodson> Oh well, give it a shot. 13:36 < AstralSin> its almost done downloading now 13:43 <@sdodson> http://cgi.ebay.com/Pro-Sound-Audio-Music-Studio-editing-Recording-Software_W0QQitemZ370052052116QQihZ024QQcategoryZ38069QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting 13:53 <+coil> ShadowHntr: solaris sucks 13:53 <@ShadowHntr> coil: fuck off. 13:53 <@ShadowHntr> you haven't tried it, have you 13:55 <+coil> yeah i have and it sucks more balls then me 14:13 < AstralSin> is there no interface for easily setting up network shares in fedora? 14:14 <@brimstone> swat? 14:14 <@ShadowHntr> NFS? 14:14 <@ShadowHntr> Samba? 14:16 < AstralSin> ubuntu has a utility that lets you share a folder and choose how you want to share it 14:17 <@ShadowHntr> ahhhh 14:17 < AstralSin> but now i can't seem to find it 14:17 < AstralSin> wtf 14:22 < AstralSin> oh, they moved it to the right click menu in hardy 14:22 < AstralSin> and the old interface is still available from the cli 14:23 <@sdodson> Windows gets really cranky when it runs out of drive space. 14:23 < AstralSin> yep 14:24 <+coil> sdodson: so does osx 14:24 <+coil> i acidently filled it up once 14:25 <+coil> and it got really laggy, then crashed 14:26 < AstralSin> do you guys have your virtual memory set as a fixed size or can it expand/contract as it needs to? 14:26 < AstralSin> if its not set as a fixed size, that could be the problem 14:29 <+coil> no i dea 14:32 <@sdodson> coil: geez man, don't be a jerk, solaris rocks 14:33 * coil looks at sdodson 14:33 < AstralSin> meh, fedora 9 is nice but its lack of real network share controls puts me off 14:34 < AstralSin> looks like you can share your whole home directory but i like more specific control over what i share 14:34 < AstralSin> nice firewall configuration utility though 14:35 < AstralSin> i should write one like it, it'd be good experience in both whatever language i did it in and iptables 14:39 <@brimstone> shorewall/ 14:39 <@brimstone> ? 15:03 -!- R3d2Daw1 [n=R3d2Dawn@75.143.159.0] has joined #se2600 15:03 < R3d2Daw1> has anyone seen this video yet? 15:04 < R3d2Daw1> http://giri.sh/2008/04/17/please-tell-me-this-is-a-spoof-microsoft/ 15:08 < R3d2Daw1> and Every dorm room needs one of these: http://giri.sh/2008/03/26/the-computer-bed/ 15:24 <@brimstone> that's pretty cool, i like the double/queen version 15:25 <@I-MOD> yeah... 15:25 <@I-MOD> it'd be nice if i could afford one of those 15:26 <@brimstone> it doesn't look too difficult to build 15:26 <@brimstone> i have too much desk crap for one though 15:26 <+coil> hi 15:27 <@brimstone> hi coil 15:27 <+coil> hey whats sup 15:28 <@brimstone> not much, waiting for a xen domu to build and making a paper crane 15:29 <+coil> awesome 15:40 * brimstone installs extensions for modules for programs 15:41 <+coil> why brimstone 15:42 <@brimstone> because this is a postgres app :( 15:56 <+coil> you should delete it 17:00 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 17:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 17:17 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:17 -!- maverickbna is now known as ShadowHntr 17:38 <+coil> gtfo 17:56 * polerin blinks 17:56 <@polerin> thats a different maverick right... heh 17:58 <@ShadowHntr> yes 17:58 <@ShadowHntr> i've had maverickbna as a secondary nick for 7 years now 17:58 <@ShadowHntr> since i moved to music city 17:58 <@ShadowHntr> BNA = airport code Nashville Int'l 18:02 <+coil> oh rly 18:02 <+coil> i had no fucking idea 18:02 <+coil> thanks for clearing that up for us 18:03 <@ShadowHntr> fuck off. 18:12 * coil fucks off all over ShadowHntr 18:30 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 18:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 18:34 -!- dc0de [n=jnoble@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 18:34 <@dc0de> evenin all 18:42 <@mtown_nerd> herro 18:42 <+coil> mtown_nerd: 18:43 <@mtown_nerd> Yes'm? 18:52 <@sdodson> HI! 18:52 <@sdodson> coil: lulz 19:11 -!- polerin [n=erin@c-71-228-222-87.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:15 <+coil> sdodson: made me do it 19:49 <@Evilpig> hotlarry: ping 19:51 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: ping 19:53 <@dc0de> wow, it's dead in here tonight 19:55 * brimstone downs a server 19:56 <@rhia> dc0de: yeah, where else would a bunch of geeks be on a saturday night? 19:56 <@dc0de> hey rhia 19:59 * dc0de is watching the A's beat the Braves. 20:06 -!- rattleX [n=rattle@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:07 -!- tkojak [n=vircuser@ip24-252-207-22.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #se2600 20:17 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:31 -!- tkojak [n=vircuser@ip24-252-207-22.mc.at.cox.net] has left #se2600 [] 21:09 <@sdodson> "We save people money so they can live better" 21:10 <@I-MOD> rhia, trying to hit the ballmer curve 21:11 <@sdodson> ballmer curve? 21:11 <@I-MOD> http://xkcd.com/323/ 21:12 <+coil> lulz 21:23 * JimShoe didn't know about this drunk level programming skill..i will need to give it a shot, wonder if work will buy me booze 21:23 <@sdodson> if they don't I suggest you work elsewhere! 21:27 <@I-MOD> has anyone in here played with libpurple at all? 21:29 <@I-MOD> the developer faq seems to imply that libpurple actually draws some of the windows :/ 21:30 <@brimstone> that's messed up 21:30 <@I-MOD> specifically this text: Is there a way that I can print something in the conversation window, but not send the message? ΒΆ 21:30 <@I-MOD> Yes. Use purple_conv_im_write() or purple_conv_chat_write(). 21:32 <@brimstone> so, libpurple isn't just a multiprotocol client, it's a partial multiprotocol chat program 21:33 <@I-MOD> if libpurple does that much, i'm not sure what pidgin actually does 21:35 <@sdodson> I-MOD: perhaps look at finch 21:37 <+coil> jgif 21:58 -!- geoffscoffee [n=geoff@c-76-18-176-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:58 < geoffscoffee> evenin 21:59 <@dc0de> sup geoffscoffee 21:59 < geoffscoffee> hey DC 22:00 < geoffscoffee> you like crawfish? 22:00 <@dc0de> never tried them... I'm allergic to crab and lobster... 22:00 < geoffscoffee> I just got home from a boil, and boy was it good 22:00 < geoffscoffee> man, sorry 22:00 <@dc0de> nah, it's ok... :) 22:00 <@dc0de> I don't know what I'm missing, really... :) 22:01 < geoffscoffee> had more beer than I've had in months too..2 cups :) 22:01 < AstralSin> crawfish rock 22:01 < geoffscoffee> yeah, it was horrible 22:01 <@dc0de> heh 22:01 <@sdodson> This guy at work is allergic to shell fish. 22:01 < geoffscoffee> heh 22:01 <@sdodson> An allergy he developed later in life after rather enjoying shell fish 22:02 < geoffscoffee> I"m not too big a shellfish man, but when it was alive going into the pot, that's good eats 22:02 <@dc0de> I can eat everything except lobster and crab, so I enjoy Shrimp, mollusks, and fish, just not the crawlers. 22:02 <@dc0de> it's the iodine content for me... 22:02 < AstralSin> i gotta be in the mood for it but shellfish is good 22:02 < AstralSin> but i'm always in the mood for oysters 22:02 < geoffscoffee> my friend flys in 400 lbs fresh this afternoon 22:02 <@dc0de> geoffscoffee: sweet. 22:02 < geoffscoffee> good friend 22:03 <@dc0de> geoffscoffee: indeed. 22:03 < geoffscoffee> I've never gotten behind mollusks 22:03 <@dc0de> I'm big on fresh clams on the half shell. 22:03 < geoffscoffee> I have pictures of mu son playing with the little bugs 22:04 <@dc0de> I don't do oysters, but raw clams are good, and broiled scallops are my favorite. 22:04 < geoffscoffee> OK, I"m going to set up a linux server at my house to learn on...what flavor should I use? 22:04 < geoffscoffee> not to start an argument 22:04 * dc0de backs away from this discussion. 22:04 <@dc0de> heh 22:04 < geoffscoffee> hehe 22:04 <@dc0de> geoffscoffee: what linux have you used? 22:05 < geoffscoffee> I'm on ubuntu now 22:05 < geoffscoffee> that's the majority now 22:05 <@sdodson> Then use that. 22:05 <@dc0de> go with what you're comfortable with. 22:05 < geoffscoffee> OK, cool 22:05 <@dc0de> unless you want to learn a different distro. 22:05 < geoffscoffee> I need to learn one well first 22:06 < AstralSin> centos is a good server distro, but i've had alot of success with ubuntu server 22:06 < AstralSin> ubuntu server requires a strong understanding of the linux cli though, it doesn't install a gui by default 22:06 <@sdodson> hooray centos 22:07 <@brimstone> most servers don't have lcds plugged into them most of the time... 22:07 < AstralSin> brimstone: i know, but most people feel more comfortable with a gui 22:08 < AstralSin> i run a headless slack 12 system as my server 22:08 <@dc0de> science channel has a good program on. 22:08 < geoffscoffee> YEah, I'm better with a GUI, but I need more terminal time 22:08 <@sdodson> i feel comfortable with serial! 22:08 <@dc0de> U-864 - Hitler's last secret 22:08 < geoffscoffee> a sub? 22:08 <@dc0de> I think so... 22:09 < AstralSin> geoffscoffee: i'm a strong believer in jumping head first into a cli environment and learning it, especially if you've got something you're familiar with to look shit up on 22:09 <@dc0de> it's just started. 22:09 <@dc0de> but it's intriguing 22:09 <@sdodson> http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m275/jogi21/random/best_fail_dog_ever.gif 22:09 <@dc0de> yup, a sup. 22:10 <@dc0de> sub even 22:10 < geoffscoffee> well, I've used command line before...but it was a long time ago 22:10 * geoffscoffee had a new commie 64 and apple 2e 22:11 < geoffscoffee> :) 22:11 < AstralSin> thats completely different than a linux cli :) 22:12 < geoffscoffee> I"m planning on making the move from hobbyist geek to professional geek in the near future, so I need command line time 22:12 < geoffscoffee> I know 22:12 < geoffscoffee> I'm just showing my age 22:13 <@sdodson> hahaha old people 22:13 < geoffscoffee> don't make me use my cane 22:20 <@ShadowHntr> geoffscoffee: i miss my commodore 64 :) 22:20 <@ShadowHntr> i run a Sun Ultra 10 headless with Solaris 10 22:20 <@brimstone> pfft, solaris sucks 22:20 <@ShadowHntr> and i usually manage my servers from the command line, anyway. 22:20 <@ShadowHntr> you haven't tried it recently, obviously. 22:21 <@brimstone> that's because i don't hate freedom 22:21 <@ShadowHntr> www.opensolaris.org 22:21 <@brimstone> www.debian.org 22:21 <@ShadowHntr> how is that not free 22:21 <@ShadowHntr> i hate debian with a passion. 22:21 <@brimstone> can you commit changes back to their stuff? 22:21 <@ShadowHntr> yes you can. 22:21 <@brimstone> s/commit/submit/ ? 22:22 <@ShadowHntr> yes to both. 22:22 <@brimstone> have you? 22:22 <@ShadowHntr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDDL 22:22 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not that strong of a programmer. 22:22 <@brimstone> why do you hate debian? 22:22 <@ShadowHntr> the major differences between debian and other major distros 22:22 <@ShadowHntr> i've tried it several times over the years 22:23 <@ShadowHntr> and i've felt lost trying to navigate sometimes. 22:23 <@brimstone> like what are the major differences? 22:23 < geoffscoffee> I know asking guys whats their favorite linux flavor is like asking who's the hottest spice girl.... 22:23 <@ShadowHntr> examples: where init scripts are located, sysv vs. bsd init, /usr/share isn't always where documentation is put... 22:24 <@ShadowHntr> maybe because at that time apt wasn't very mature. 22:24 <@ShadowHntr> i don't know 22:24 <@ShadowHntr> first impressions are everything. 22:24 <@ShadowHntr> i started on Slackware and Red Hat 22:24 <@brimstone> debian always puts inits in the same spot, /etc/init.d, why use bsd's init? and i've never found docs outside of /usr/share 22:24 <@brimstone> solaris does stuff pretty weird 22:24 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: but some linux distros use bsd init, some use sysv. 22:25 <@ShadowHntr> i got used to one, and debian used another. 22:25 <@brimstone> change isn't always bad 22:25 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not saying change is bad 22:25 <@brimstone> when did you last try debian? 22:25 <@ShadowHntr> it's just that i prefer other distros 22:25 < geoffscoffee> keeps you on your toes 22:25 <@ShadowHntr> let's see 22:25 <@brimstone> like, really try it too 22:25 <@ShadowHntr> early 2003 22:25 <@ShadowHntr> don't remember the version number 22:25 <@brimstone> setup a webserver, an email server, fileserver, etc 22:25 <@ShadowHntr> and i tried ubuntu with hoary hedgehog (5.04) 22:26 <@brimstone> tried to install graphics drivers, played a few games 22:26 <@brimstone> when did opensolaris come out? 22:26 <@ShadowHntr> the shipit one-disc install didn't even have NIS and NFS support ! i had to spend almost a full day over dialup trying to get that support in 22:26 <@ShadowHntr> 2 years ago 22:26 <@brimstone> so, you've tried opensolaris and liked it since you last tried debian? 22:26 <@ShadowHntr> yes 22:26 <@brimstone> let me know when you really evaluate debian again 22:27 <@ShadowHntr> i'll try it again some day 22:27 <@ShadowHntr> now i can at least figure out debian 22:27 * brimstone goes back to folding laundry 22:27 * ShadowHntr offers a beer as a peace offering. 22:27 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not trying to start a war or anything. =) 22:28 < geoffscoffee> me neither 22:30 < AstralSin> WARRRR!!! 22:30 < AstralSin> linux sucks! beos ftw! 22:32 <@ShadowHntr> AstralSin: i would like to try beos and nextstep :) 22:32 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexenta_OS 22:32 <@ShadowHntr> check that out. 22:33 < AstralSin> nexenta is an opensolaris derivative 22:33 <@brimstone> o.O 22:34 <@brimstone> well, there's a hurd kernel with debian userland so i guess it's not that unheard of 22:34 < AstralSin> nextstep was the OS that NeXT came up with after steve jobs left apple 22:34 < AstralSin> and there are several linux window managers that copy the nextstep window manager 22:35 <@brimstone> afterstep being the primary right? 22:35 < AstralSin> not sure which is primary but afterstep and windowmaker were the 2 big names 22:35 < AstralSin> theres even one for windows, or there was, litestep 22:36 < AstralSin> i don't know if thats still in development or not 22:36 < AstralSin> i used to really like windowmaker 22:37 * geoffscoffee is downloading the centos live cd 22:37 < geoffscoffee> why not 22:37 < AstralSin> no reason not to, i need to install it on my server 22:37 <@brimstone> i used litestep a long, long time ago 22:38 <@brimstone> it didn't look anything like nextstep's interface though 22:38 <@brimstone> it was highly customizable though 22:38 < AstralSin> i interviewed for a job monday that recommends CentOS to its customers that can't afford/doesn't need windows server 22:38 <@ShadowHntr> that's not bad... 22:38 < AstralSin> litestep is based on the ideal but does look a bit different by default 22:39 <@ShadowHntr> AstralSin: what was the timeframe for him calling for second interviews? 22:39 <@ShadowHntr> did he say to you? 22:39 < AstralSin> next week 22:39 <@ShadowHntr> cool. 22:39 < AstralSin> i think this week was the last week for the preliminary interviews 22:41 <@ShadowHntr> omg this is going to take for-fucking-ever 22:41 <@ShadowHntr> open a 1.4GB executable 22:41 <@ShadowHntr> installer 22:41 < AstralSin> for what? 22:41 <@ShadowHntr> a game 22:41 < AstralSin> oh 22:42 <@ShadowHntr> an MMO rhythm game 22:42 < AstralSin> i've actually gotten back into playing a game that i've been into for the past 3 years 22:42 <@ShadowHntr> whoever developed it didn't do a very good job of packaging for distribution. 22:42 <@ShadowHntr> probably take a few more minutes to open the damn thing :P 22:42 <@ShadowHntr> what's that 22:42 < AstralSin> just havent played in a few months 22:42 < AstralSin> alien arena 22:42 <@ShadowHntr> i bought a copy of Battlefield 2142 when i built my desktop in october 22:42 < AstralSin> its a free FPS 22:43 <@ShadowHntr> and i still have yet to play it for the first time. 22:43 <@ShadowHntr> :P 22:43 < AstralSin> i'm an old school deathmatch fragger, i have yet to find a game released in the past 5 years that has had be obsessed like alien arena 22:43 * geoffscoffee has no time for games 22:44 < AstralSin> s/be/me 22:44 < AstralSin> in fact, nothing i found until alien arena had me so obsessed since Quake 1 22:44 <@ShadowHntr> AstralSin: i like Ricochet - a mod for original Half-Life 22:45 <@ShadowHntr> Quake III and the first two Unreal Tournaments 22:45 < AstralSin> try alien arena 22:45 < AstralSin> red.planetarena.org 22:45 <@ShadowHntr> will do 22:45 < AstralSin> you might like it 22:45 < AstralSin> man, there have been some heart pounding games the last 3 days 22:45 < AstralSin> the community is really active too 22:46 < AstralSin> #alienarena on efnet, but i don't go there, i tend to kickban people too much and have to deal with people bitching so i left that channel... even though i created it 22:46 < AstralSin> and there's forums 22:48 <@ShadowHntr> cool 22:48 <@ShadowHntr> sounds like fun 22:49 < AstralSin> well, i've been playing 3 years, so that should tell you something :) 22:51 <@ShadowHntr> sweet 22:53 < AstralSin> damn, i think the pint of whiskey i just rank just hitme all at once 22:53 <@ShadowHntr> HAHAHAHA 22:53 <@ShadowHntr> that's what you get for chugging ;) 22:54 <@ShadowHntr> what, get a wave of nausea? ;) 22:54 < AstralSin> fuck, i didn't chug, i've been drinkin on it for a couple hours 22:54 <@ShadowHntr> need to hold on to the floor to keep from falling off? ;) 22:54 < AstralSin> nah, just got real drunk all of a sudden 22:54 <@ShadowHntr> j/k mate 22:54 <@ShadowHntr> hehehehe 22:54 <@ShadowHntr> i don't drink that much that often 22:54 < AstralSin> shit, i havent been that drunk in a long time 22:54 < AstralSin> i drink every night 22:55 <@ShadowHntr> i like the get the "comfortably drunk"/"good buzz" stage and not go past that 22:55 <@ShadowHntr> cause past that i tend to get sick :P 22:55 < AstralSin> i couldnt tell you the last time i got sick 22:55 < AstralSin> its been years 22:55 < AstralSin> prolly 2003 22:56 < AstralSin> and thats not because i've been slackin, i drink copious amount of alcohol often 22:56 < AstralSin> its because i'm a fuckin alcoholic i guess 22:58 < geoffscoffee> drunk, twice in my life. Warm, about once every 2 months 23:01 <@sdodson> I've never gotten sick while drinking, it's always when I wake up in the morning. 23:01 <@sdodson> And only if I'm not smart enough to grab a few glasses of water before going to bed 23:01 < AstralSin> thats only happened to me once, actually 23:01 < AstralSin> but i have the cure for the hangover 23:02 <@sdodson> Ubuntu? 23:02 < AstralSin> eggs+bacon+biscuits+molasses+butter = cure for hangover 23:02 < AstralSin> instant cure, even 23:02 <@brimstone> i've found a grease whopper worked pretty well too 23:02 < AstralSin> never tried that 23:03 < AstralSin> but its feasible 23:03 <@sdodson> i'm not sure about molasses and biscuits, that seems to be a really odd southern thing i've never figured out 23:03 < AstralSin> molasses and biscuits = pure good 23:03 < geoffscoffee> mmmmmmmmmmmmmm 23:04 < AstralSin> and if you don't like it, you're a god damned commie 23:05 <@ShadowHntr> yikes 23:05 <@ShadowHntr> a good breakfast + Midrin is my hangover cure 23:05 <@ShadowHntr> works every time. 23:05 < AstralSin> wtf is midrin? 23:05 <@ShadowHntr> migraine medication 23:05 < AstralSin> ah 23:05 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr is a tweaker. 23:06 <@ShadowHntr> lol 23:06 <@ShadowHntr> hey - it works. 23:06 <@ShadowHntr> that's what counts. 23:16 <@ShadowHntr> well 23:16 <@ShadowHntr> i'm gonna try out some of these games 23:16 <@ShadowHntr> bbiab 23:16 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["End of line."] 23:24 < geoffscoffee> night all 23:25 < AstralSin> night 23:25 -!- geoffscoffee [n=geoff@c-76-18-176-47.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] --- Log closed Sun May 18 00:00:12 2008