--- Log opened Fri May 16 00:00:12 2008
00:05 < geoffscoffee> OK, off to reset
00:05 < geoffscoffee> night
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00:30 <+coil> pics
00:30 <+coil> or gtfo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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06:43 < Shadow404> eow
06:43 < Shadow404> *meow
06:56 < booker404> bowwow
07:02 <@aestetix> dongz
07:11 < Shadow404> i rest my case
07:30 <@I-MOD> mawnin
07:31 < Shadow404> goood day for riding motorcycle
07:53 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:24 <@poiupoiu> happy friday everyone!
08:31 < booker404> I got radios coming today... It's indeed a happy friday! ;)
08:32 < Shadow404> radios?
08:32 < booker404> 2x Alinco 2m w/internal TNCs, and some second-hand 2m/70cm
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09:02 <@aestetix> Wow.
09:02 <@aestetix> Bletchley Park is facing ruin :(
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09:38 < ware> WHAT IS UP BRETHREN!
09:39 <@I-MOD> WE ARE BROTHER WARE!
09:39 <@brimstone> THE DAY OF RECKONING IS HERE!
09:39 < ware> ALL HAIL!
09:39 <@brimstone> HAIL!
09:40 < ware> SO IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE TESTAMENT OF THE CHAIR IN WARE 6:12-14, "AND WE WOULD HAIL, FOR ON THE 6TH DAY OF THE WEEK ALL SHALL RAISE HAIL."
09:40  * brimstone gets the barn lift
09:40 < ware> rofl
09:41 < ware> we dont need to water let the motherfucker burn! burn motherfucker, burn.
09:41 < ware> brimstone: you coming to the crawfish boil today with I-MOD ?
09:41 <@brimstone> no, i didn't learn of it until yesterday
09:41 <@brimstone> then i already had plans
09:41 < ware> teh suk
09:47 <@I-MOD> i'm not going with the hsv2600 group
09:48 <@I-MOD> different, similar(though they don't want to admit it) group of people
09:55 <@brimstone> IEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
09:56 <@polerin> hehe
09:58 <@oddball> hmmm... decisions decisions... my mom has told me that she will buy me an eeePC 900 for my birthday.  I can go ahead and get one now in white, or wait until they (hopefully) release the black one in the states, or wait until they (hopefully) start throwing the new Intel Atom chip into it (should be sometime next month)
10:01 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
10:01 < ware> HAI NACHOGUY!
10:02 < Shadow404> shit, one breaker flips and i spend the next 5 hours taking calls and fixing shit
10:02 <@nachoguy> oddball, I'm looking to pick one up for my brother (going to college), so I'm in the same boat get the 900 now, or wait for the atom
10:02 <@oddball> sounds about right
10:02 <@Dolemite> Shouldn't have let that breaker trip
10:03 < Shadow404> Dolemite: you wanna kow who did it?
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10:03 < Shadow404> fucking on site techs
10:03 <@oddball> Well, to throw another wrench into the mix, part of the reason she's going to buy me one is to try out and see if it would be good for my nephews to have (their 8)
10:03 < Shadow404> decided to plug in a work light into our customer cage and triped the breaker
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10:03 <@oddball> Oh, and their birthday is in July
10:04 < Shadow404> so i hence when all the dust clears, teh facility is going to be paying us alot of money
10:04 <@Dolemite> So what you're saying is that you let an unsupervised tech into the data center.
10:04 < Shadow404> Dolemite: no, its the facility techs
10:04 < Shadow404> not ours
10:04 < Shadow404> but they have access to our cage and are supposed to use facility breakers, not customer breakers
10:05 <@Dolemite> You let someone into the data center that doesn't work for your company, correct?
10:05 < Shadow404> no
10:05 < Shadow404> nevermind your impossible
10:05 <@Dolemite> No, I'm asking for clarification
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10:07 <@Dolemite> Oh, well.  Sounds like they had the circuit too close to the trip point on the breaker, anyway, if one work light will trip it.
10:10 < ware> wahhhhhh!
10:11 < ware> my dc iz br0ke so eye wil leave brb l8r
10:11 <@nachoguy> it sounds like shadow's place has a cage in someone else's datacenter.  this third party datacenter has techs that went into shadow's cage and flipped a breaker
10:11 <@Dolemite> sounds like that is a possibility, but he was too pissy to clarify
10:11 <@Dolemite> so really rather than his employer having a data center, they have a small subset of that data center
10:12 < ware> nachoguy: that is the casae
10:12 <@Dolemite> which is contradictory to his previous boasts
10:12 < ware> boast deez
10:12  * ware presentz
10:12  * Dolemite looks around but finds nothign
10:12 <@Dolemite> er, nothing
10:12  * ware sets up the microscope
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10:24 <@Dolemite> Shhh!  Don't anybody ask Shadow404 for clarification or he'll get pissy and leave, again.
10:24 <@I-MOD> CLARIFY!
10:25 < booker404> hey Shadow404: the data center we host with had a ~7 minute complete outage yesterday afternoon... Since you provide the majority of their connectivity, I was wondering if you might have an idea about it....
10:25 <@Shadow404> which cirucit?
10:25 < booker404> Complete connectivity failure
10:25 < booker404> they have redundant links, but Internap provides quite a bit of it I believe
10:25 <@Shadow404> ok, so you told me earlier that you have other isps then us
10:26 <@Shadow404> so that had to be cage specific if they all went out
10:27 < booker404> I administer 2 cages there (connectivity provided by the data center).  Our services (and even their services) all went dark from the Internet for 7 minutes yesterday afternoon
10:27 < booker404> since Internap is such a major provider for Quality Tech, I thought you might've heard something I didn't
10:27 <@Shadow404> nah, qts is last hop
10:28 <@Shadow404> so we wouldnt have known
10:29 < booker404> yeah... I thought QTS may've just coordinated with you to get recovered... from what I hear and can tell, the whole place went dark ('net wise)
10:30 <@Shadow404> let me check back
10:33 <@Dolemite> Don't fly into Texas...   here's what their air traffic control lets happen!
10:33 <@Dolemite> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/05/15/vo.plane.lands.on.plane.wfaa
10:33 <@Dolemite> ~minilink
10:33 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/cnn.com/9k3S0.wfaa
10:33  * brimstone hates on texas some more
10:34 < ware> we dont use that language around here.
10:35  * brimstone loves on texas
10:35  * Dolemite hates on Texas enough for himself and brimstone
10:35  * brimstone blasts Dolemite with his Heart Beam
10:35 <@rhia> i'd say Texas is the bad language ...
10:36 <@Dolemite> rhia : I agree!
10:36 < ware> CARE BEAR STARE!
10:36 <@oddball> I still say my problem with Texas is that it has texans
10:36  * Dolemite deflects the heart beam and stares back with teh EVIL EYE
10:41  * ware ducks as Corydon76 bends over and inhales Dolemite's beam from the backdoor, goatse style
10:51  * Corydon76-dig smacks ware
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Don't bring me into this
10:51 <@brimstone> everybody hug
10:51 <@SkyDog_> RUN!
10:54  * poiupoiu is up for a group hug
10:54 <@poiupoiu> c'mere brimstone !
10:54 <@poiupoiu> :P
10:58  * brimstone hugs!
10:58  * brimstone works on the LDAP directory to end all
10:58 <@aestetix> man
10:58 <@aestetix> I have never been so braindead
10:59 < ware> ecstacy duz that
10:59 <@aestetix> uh
10:59 <@aestetix> it's not drugs
10:59 < ware> uh, yes it is
10:59 <@aestetix> No, no it isn't.
10:59 <@brimstone> it's the booze then
11:01 <@polerin> brimstone: phht
11:01 <@polerin> brimstone: I've got you beat by way of LDAP directories
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11:02 <@brimstone> i've only been working on it for a few days though
11:02 <@polerin> brimstone: Comcast's GD is LDAP
11:02 <@brimstone> GD?
11:02 <@brimstone> you and your letters
11:02 <@polerin> Global directory
11:03 <@polerin> every modem on every account with either modem or voice services is in there with every email address
11:03 <@brimstone> oh, this is just a pretty webpage that shows the internal employees
11:03 <@polerin> hehe
11:03 <@polerin> yeah I know how that is.  I've one like that ;)
11:04 <@brimstone> and it works 100% with our new ldap structure
11:04 <@brimstone> so i'm happy about that too
11:04  * polerin nods
11:04 <@polerin> I'd love to get all the stuff merged over to LDAP, but .. guess what.  Not my deal.
11:04 <@polerin> :P
11:04 <@polerin> because today is my last day!
11:04 <@polerin> WOOoO
11:05 <@brimstone> horray!
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12:03 < ware> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3941545.ece
12:03 < ware> interesting
12:11 < ware> http://lifehacker.com/391067/fedora-9-puts-your-desktop-on-a-usb-drive
12:14  * booker404 likes the forst commnet..
12:26 <@polerin> anyone know if there's a smartphone that will work with nextel?  (direct connect too if possible... )
12:30 <@oddball> I thought Sprint had pretty much phased out Nextel
12:42 <@polerin> meh
12:42 <@polerin> It's still used in corperations
12:43 <@oddball> and, if I remember correctly, the only folks to use Nextel's protocol was... Nextel.  So, if they don't offer it, chances are, it don't exist.
12:45 <@polerin> mmph
12:48 <+coil> hi
12:51 <+coil> why hate on texass?
12:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, it's not nice to pick on retards.
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12:56 <+coil> Corydon76-dig: you calling me retard?
12:56 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: I thought you were an Alabaman
12:57 <+coil> im considered texan now
13:01 <@polerin> epic fail
13:02  * coil shoots polerin with his gun
13:09 <@polerin> see
13:09 <@polerin> fail
13:16 <@brimstone> stupid table won't center
13:16  * coil pushes the table over
13:21 <@rhia> coil: "was yew borned chere?"  if not, you're not a Texan - be thankful of that loophole
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13:24 <+coil> rhia: but i have texas in my corner
13:25 <+coil> then im a phoenixican ?
13:25 <+coil> or arizonian
13:26 <@polerin> brimstone: that's your fault for using a table
13:26 <@polerin> ;p
13:27 <+coil> rhia: wer jew borned chare?
13:27 <@brimstone> but tables are meant for holding tabular data!
13:29 <@rhia> coil: I don't claim to be a Texan ;)
13:30 <+coil> we dont like ur kind around here
13:30 <@rhia> they like 'fake' texans even less .. ~shrug~
13:30 <+coil> fuck them
13:30 <@rhia> rather not
13:31 <+coil> you might get the gay
13:32 <@rhia> woooo- kaaaayyy
13:32  * rhia melts back into the woodwork
13:34  * coil sets wood on fire
13:50 <@GodFix> http://www.godfixproductions.com/images/DSC00317.JPG
13:55 <@brimstone> someone's a little cranky
13:55 <@Shadow404> nice
14:08 <+coil> i dont understand
14:11 <@Corydon76-dig> No, someone just needs something to occupy his time
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14:40 <@aestetix> word
14:41 <@ShadowHntr> sup aestetix
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15:21 <@aestetix> tired
15:31 < hotlarry> Evilpig: are you here?
15:31 <@Shadow404> "sheet, sheet, fire le missle"
15:31 <@Shadow404> ...."but i am le tired"
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15:40 < hotlarry> http://www.godfixproductions.com/images/DSC00317.JPG
15:40 < hotlarry> oops
15:43 <@brimstone> that paste button's a doosy
15:43 <@nachoguy> hotlarry, did you get my second post a day or so ago about hotels
15:43 <@nachoguy> the first one is next to a train line that doesn't run on weekends
15:55 <@Evilpig> hotlarry: yes
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16:39 < hotlarry> nachoguy: yes
16:40 < hotlarry> Evilpig: did the notkid come by to collect on the mowing he did last week?
16:42 < hotlarry> Evilpig: or try?:)
16:44 <@ShadowHntr> god that's a long drive
16:44 <@ShadowHntr> Murfreesboro to Goodlettsville
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17:17 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: *ping*
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17:25 <@ShadowHntr> damn
17:25 <@ShadowHntr> why is IBM the only vendor that doesn't charge exorbant amounts of money for testing fees to get certified
17:25 <@ShadowHntr> :P
17:26 < AstralSin> because they care
17:26 <@ShadowHntr> hehehe
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17:27 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: what do you consider exorbant?
17:28 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: $350+ for a full certification exam
17:28 <@ShadowHntr> like A+
17:28 <@ShadowHntr> $175 x2
17:28 <@sdodson> Ours are like $700
17:28 <@sdodson> But we require you to actually have skills.
17:29 <@ShadowHntr> what are you implying
17:29 <@sdodson> Not what you thought I meant.
17:29 <@ShadowHntr> mmm k
17:29 <@sdodson> Just that our tests are performance based.
17:29 <@ShadowHntr> what are you talking about
17:29 <@ShadowHntr> ahhhh
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17:39 <@sdodson> but i'm bored so i'll say A+ is dumb  just to instigate :)
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17:46 <@polerin> 14 minutes
17:46 <@brimstone> you're tellin' us
17:46 <@polerin> well of course
17:46 <@polerin> arn't you interested?
17:46 <@polerin> ;)
17:46 <@brimstone> yeah, i leave for the day in 14 minutes as well
17:46 <@polerin> heh
17:47 <@brimstone> but i have to come back sunday
17:47 <@polerin> I never have to come back
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18:06  * polerin shuts down the computer
18:07 <@Shadow404> on an ftp client, is there a way to tell it to put all files ina a certain directory, including searching in sub directories
18:07 <@Shadow404> ftp shell client
18:08 <@Shadow404> put / upload
18:08 <@Shadow404> what i want to do is create a script to upload a jpg file but it will have to search every sub folder of a given directory for jpgs
18:09 <@ShadowHntr> Shadow404: use ncftp
18:09 <@ShadowHntr> you can do that with it
18:10 <@sdodson> no, the ftp protocol doesn't allow that, you've got to automate it in some way
18:10 <@ShadowHntr> well
18:10 <@ShadowHntr> no i mean the client supports glob and can take wildcards
18:11 <@ShadowHntr> and do recursion, i believe
18:11 <@sdodson> right, ncftp is coverd by automating it in some way
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18:20 <@ShadowHntr> sup rattle
18:22 <@rattle> The fucking week from hell.
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19:04 <@aestetix> uh
19:04 <@aestetix> Why do no airlines take off after 9pm anymore?
19:11 <@ShadowHntr> no redeye flights?
19:11 <@ShadowHntr> what airport you trying to fly out of
19:21 < hotlarry> Evilpig: are you there?
19:32 < Perse-Pho> rattle: did you get my email with my flight itinerary?
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19:51 <@Evilpig> hotlarry: yes
20:04 <@polerin> crap.. was the vandy recycling thing last weekend
20:04 <@polerin> ?
20:06 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: there's a recycling event at LP Field
20:07 <@Corydon76-dig> 9a-3p
20:07 <@polerin> tomorrow?
20:07 <@Corydon76-dig> http://wpln.org/?page_id=111#MISC
20:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, Wednesday-Saturday
20:12 <@polerin> <lissa> danke corydon....i knew there was one this weekend :)
20:13 <@Corydon76-dig> I should take some stuff there tomorrow, actually
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20:30 <@sdodson> recycling event?
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21:22 <@sdodson> http://www.noob.us/entertainment/bobcat-loads-itself-onto-truck/
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21:48 <@sdodson> meh, the more comments I read at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/146 the more I'm convinced ubuntu users just don't get it
22:02 <@aestetix> What does "get it" mean?
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22:02 < geoffscoffee> evenin
22:05 <@sdodson> aestetix: Understand how software development works, understand QA, understand what business customers want, understand open source software, shall I go on?
22:07 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: do you think that people who respond to a blog are representative of the users of a single distribution?
22:08 <@Corydon76-dig> I know there are tons of blogs out there, but I never read of them unless somebody posts something and says "You should really look at this"
22:09 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: What do you mean? The overwhelming "I install hardy and $foo happened" leads me to believe they're mostly ubuntu users.
22:10 <@aestetix> sdodson: of course they don't.
22:10 <@aestetix> It's a general marketing blog post.
22:11 <@aestetix> Nobody who is remotely technical is going to respond to it.
22:11 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I'm not saying they aren't all ubuntu users.  They probably are.  But the type who have time to read blogs I don't think are the typical users
22:12 <@Corydon76-dig> In fact, I don't think people who have time to read blogs are typical of any Linux distribution
22:13 <@aestetix> Hold on.
22:13 <@aestetix> "Time to read blogs" I read several blogs, and I also use a distro fairly regularly.
22:13 <@aestetix> Although I generally don't comment on them.
22:13 <@aestetix> And they tend to pertain to something I'm working on or am interested in.
22:14 <@sdodson> aestetix: you're also a loser so we'll just consider you an outlier
22:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, most of us simply don't have the time to spend on that
22:14 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: let me put it this way: I generally hit google reader instead of slashdot in the morning.
22:14 <@sdodson> I also think Corydon76-dig's argument is bullshit in this case too.
22:14 <@sdodson> I think a ton of people read tons of blogs.
22:15 <@sdodson> Especially given the references between multiple people's blogs.
22:15 <@aestetix> I think "having time to read blogs" is way too much of a generalization.
22:15 <@aestetix> Threat Level, Scoblizer, etc are considered blogs.
22:15 <@sdodson> Scoblizer is considered market bullshit to me!
22:15 <@aestetix> Well, sure.
22:16 <@aestetix> A blog is a wrapper for content :p
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22:16 <@sdodson> Ya, so, tons of relevant people read Mark's post I'm sure.
22:16 <@aestetix> Who is a relevant person?
22:16 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: do you consider yourself relevant?
22:17 <@aestetix> I'm thinking someone who is "relevant" might be an Ubuntu developer, who discusses lower-level tech issues with other developers in a different forum.
22:17 <@sdodson> I'm glad to see that people are calling him out for release date being a significant criteria for a long term release.
22:17 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: Not really.
22:17 <@Corydon76-dig> I know I'm relevant in several small spheres, though I'm not relevant on any grand scale, personally
22:18 <@sdodson> Ok, give me a few minutes and I'm sure I can turn up a few relevant people who linked to his blog in theirs.
22:19 <@sdodson> http://www.harald-hoyer.de/personal/blog/cross-distro-sync
22:19 <@Corydon76-dig> No idea who that is
22:21 <@aestetix> This should be fun.
22:21 <@aestetix> Anyone heard of Alex Gray?
22:22 <@sdodson> http://advogato.org/person/harald/
22:26 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm sure he's very important to the Red Hat project
22:26 <@Corydon76-dig> He's just not within my sphere.
22:26 <@sdodson> So you wouldn't agree he's atleast as relevant as the average consumer of Linux distros?
22:27  * geoffscoffee gets the popcorn
22:28 <@sdodson> Actually, I've lost track of what point you were making.
22:32  * someninjaserver yawns
22:39 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: busy people don't browse blogs, I think
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22:40 <@Corydon76-dig> I guess I'd never even know that blogs really existed unless the media and the fine folks in here didn't tell me about them
22:44 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: There's entire communities of blogs from very influential people in opensource with people who post and respond to each other on a daily basis.
22:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, my code speaks for itself...
22:46 <@sdodson> That's pretty boring an unemotional.
22:46 <@sdodson> How much opinion can you express in your code?
22:47 <@Corydon76-dig> I keep hearing from others who say "I don't know how I ever got along without X" where X is something I wrote
22:47 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: a lot, actually
22:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Most of the opinions in code are about interface design and usability
22:48 <@Corydon76-dig> and a high enough abstraction that makes the tools generally useful
22:49 <@Corydon76-dig> and examples that are good enough to teach people how to use them
22:49 <@Corydon76-dig> People get very excited when they see what can be done
22:50 <@sdodson> I'm still not sure what we're getting at.
22:50 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't have time to blog my opinions because I'm too busy writing code.  ;-)
22:51 <@Corydon76-dig> and not just writing, but also designing
22:52 <@sdodson> why are you on IRC then?
22:52 <@Corydon76-dig> It's informal
22:53 <@sdodson> Informal or more of a stream?
22:53 <@Corydon76-dig> That, too
22:53 <@Corydon76-dig> and much more interactive
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23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> hotlarry: did you seriously want another 20" CRT?
23:56 <@dasunt> I need to sleep soon.
23:56 <@dasunt> Meh.
23:56 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: How does the dating go?
23:57 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig: one of my friends may be interested in one...
23:58 <@ShadowHntr> you have one that needs a home?
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