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00:10 <@aestetix> texas is worthless
00:10 <@aestetix> there is nothing going on here
00:10 <@aestetix> I think the retirement plan is suicide by 30
00:10 < dredd> lol rednecks
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00:33 <@ShadowHntr> wow
00:33 <@ShadowHntr> pretty damn cool
00:33 <@ShadowHntr> :)
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11:49 <@dasunt> Our public debt seems to be about half of that, the other half of our national debt is what our government owes to itself.
11:49 <@sdodson> It may not be unusual, but is it acceptable?
11:50 <@dasunt> sdodson: In theory, if the gains of the project offset the payback cost, then yes.
11:51 <@dasunt> For example, buying a home or paying for college for an individual can be considered "good" debt.
11:52 <@dasunt> For a nation, building infrastructure is probably good.
11:52 <@sdodson> dasunt: you have a really wide base of knowledge
11:52 <@dasunt> Starting a war in bumfuck nowhere isn't.
11:52 <@sdodson> For a developed country should it be necessary to build intrastructure?
11:52 <@dasunt> sdodson: If technology isn't static, I'd say yes.
11:53 <@dasunt> Also, if growth isn't static, I'd say yes again.
11:53 <@sdodson> that pirate dude argues that we started a war in Iraq because they switched to trading oil in euros
11:53 <@dasunt> sdodson: Yah.  I don't really buy the oil/war argument.
11:54 <@sdodson> Not about the oil, but about the downfall of our currency
11:54 <@dasunt> See, that doesn't bother me that much.
11:54 <@dasunt> The US currency is propped up because the rest of the world tends to be economically unstable.
11:54 <@dasunt> So the US becomes the preferred investment location.
11:55 <@dasunt> It is great for maintaining a trade imbalance, but sucks to encourage domestic industry.
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12:03 <@dasunt> Btw, interesting bit of trivial -- evidence strongly points to the ME not having anywhere near the amount of the reserves they state.
12:09 <@dasunt> Not only does OPEC limit production amounts to a certain fraction of reserves, encouraging members to "discover" more oil if they want to sell more, but larger oil reserves also makes international loans easier to get.
12:09 <@dasunt> llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll./
12:09 <@dasunt> And that's the cat's opinion.
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18:35 < ware> http://cbs3.com/topstories/Cuddle.Party.Pajama.2.709239.html
18:35 < ware> what the fuck is wrong with people
18:35 < ware> fucking hell. we're making our societies, who the hell is right
18:35 < ware> god damn it all.
18:40 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: would you like a cuddle?
18:41 < ware> no i would like a fucking absolute truth about life the universe and everything
18:42 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: I'd share it with you, but I'd need a cuddle first.
18:42 <@rhia> ware: 42
18:43 < ware> rhia: <3 alwayz 42
19:39 <@sdodson> i'm getting tired of sopranos, what should i netflix next?
19:39 <@brimstone> SG-1, Farscape
19:39 <@brimstone> BSG
19:39 <@sdodson> brimstone: stop being a nerd
19:39 <@brimstone> any Sci-Fi
19:39 <@brimstone> i can't
19:39 <@sdodson> oh, i saw some dude that looked like you
19:39 <@brimstone> they'll take away my membership if i do
19:39 <@sdodson> i almost said "ZOMG HAX!"
19:40 <@brimstone> why not?
19:40 <@brimstone> i'm sure the me who's not me would have laughed
19:40 <@sdodson> he might have been frnehc
19:41 <@sdodson> he had some french soccer shirt on
19:41 <@sdodson> brimstone: so if you weren't watching sci-fi 24/7 what would you rent?
19:41 <@brimstone> hi-def travel shows
19:42 <@brimstone> anyone know where i could get a vmware disk that's a virus ridden windows install?
19:43 <@sdodson> dd if=/ware's/pc of=virus-ridden-windows-install
19:44 <@brimstone> this http://www.avira.com/en/pages/index.php has a really, really slick bart's pe plugin
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20:07 < R3d2Dawn> what would cause issues with downloading files? when I download files through my physical windows installation the speeds drop drastically (normally I can download at around 1mb), but when I do the same thing on a fresh copy of windows via vmware the speeds are fine.
20:11 < AstralSin> a borked winsock maybe, but i dunno
20:12 < AstralSin> you'd think if it was using the same nic, it'd be fucked in either the host or the vm
20:14 < R3d2Dawn> yeah, but its not, its wierd
20:15 < R3d2Dawn> would some application cause something like this or some other driver possibly?
20:16 < AstralSin> i don't really know
20:16 < AstralSin> thats one of those things you're just gonna have to fuck with till you figure it out
20:24 < R3d2Dawn> yeah thats what I am afraid of
20:25 < R3d2Dawn> or its one of those things that will just fix it self
20:25 < AstralSin> i wouldn't count on it :)
20:25 < AstralSin> have you tried rebooting?
20:27 < R3d2Dawn> oh yeah
20:27 < R3d2Dawn> although what I have not tried was safe mode with network support
20:27 < R3d2Dawn> actually I am going to try that right now
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20:33 <@sdodson> everything is slow in safe mode
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20:40 < R3d2Dawn> My speeds are working just fine now in safe mode
20:40 < R3d2Dawn> and I was wrong when i said 1mb download, I meant 10Mbps
20:40 < R3d2Dawn> so any thoughts
20:58 < AstralSin> not if a vm gets faster speeds than the host
21:04 < R3d2Dawn> after rebooting in safe mode w/ network my physical system, the speeds are fine
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21:04 < AstralSin> the only thing i can think of is the bridge your vm creates is screwing with your....
21:04 < AstralSin> nevermind
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21:25 < R3d2Dawn> apparently its either a service thats running or something thats running at startup
21:26 < R3d2Dawn> now its time to determine which area services or startup
21:34 < AstralSin> the only thing i can think of is the bridge your vm creates is screwing with your nic
21:39 < R3d2Dawn> probably, I will check that first then
21:39 < R3d2Dawn> thanks for the input
21:40 < R3d2Dawn> I feel stupid now that I never even tried safe mode
21:40 < AstralSin> np
21:40 < R3d2Dawn> that should of been the first thing I did
21:40 < AstralSin> don't worry, that idea often escapes me as well
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22:18 <@dasunt> FUCK YOU ALL!
22:18 <@dasunt> I mean hi!
22:18 <+coil> "a common typo"
22:18 <+coil> fuck  you  too  dasunt
22:19 <@dasunt> if ( offer.person() == "female" ){ accept(); } else { run_screaming(); }
22:19 <@dasunt> :(
22:19 <+coil> no
22:19  * coil forces fsck
22:19 <@dasunt> That's illegal in most states.
22:19 <@dasunt> I think all states, if you are male.
22:20 <+coil> im sure you've never done anything illegal
22:20  * dasunt is as pure as new fallen snow.
22:20 <+coil> yeah whatever
22:20 <@dasunt> I have the forged paperwork to prove it!
22:20  * coil sets on fire
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22:22 < geoffscoffee> evenin'
22:22 <@dasunt> I was listening to that song today.
22:22 <@dasunt> geoffscoffee: Who are you?  And g'evening.
22:22 < geoffscoffee> aka digiears, the coffee dude
22:22 < AstralSin> i do love me some coffee
22:22 < AstralSin> where you from?
22:23 < geoffscoffee> Nashville, and I love makin coffee
22:23 < AstralSin> cool
22:23 <@dasunt> Irish coffee?
22:23 <@sdodson> http://www.nvnews.net/reviews/evga_geforce_9800_gtx/page_3.shtml why do these wankers post screenshots that are like 320x280 ?
22:24 < AstralSin> to minimize page load time
22:24 <@dasunt> sdodson: Awesome!
22:25 <@dasunt> "This is how good this looks at 2560x1600.  But we'll provide you with a 320x280 screenshot with no ability to click it to get the full image"
22:25 < AstralSin> heh, the system memory usage in that top part of the oblivion vram usage pane is 6.66
22:25 <@sdodson> dasunt: ya, srsly wtf?
22:25 <@sdodson> And they bother to post both a version with AA and without.
22:25 <@dasunt> I love it.
22:25 <@sdodson> Like you'll be able to notice a fucking difference in an image that's 20% the size of the original
22:26 <@dasunt> It's a totall complete lack of connection with reality.
22:26 < AstralSin> i agree they should link to a full size shot of it
22:26 <@dasunt> It reminds me of the inevitable second call of my work day.
22:26 <@dasunt> Speaking of which, tomorrow, I get to see the uberawesome hackerness in action.
22:26 <@sdodson> dasunt: what it is dawg?
22:27 <@dasunt> sdodson: I'm not sure.
22:27 <@sdodson> dasunt: you tease
22:27 <@dasunt> According to the security audit report, there's a directory transversal bug in a bit of win32 software that has a webserver component.
22:27 < AstralSin> they're gonna winnuke someone
22:27 <@dasunt> They "tested it".
22:27 <@dasunt> And the software version does show a directory transversal bug on bugtraq.
22:28 <@dasunt> But they tested it by reading the passwd and shadow password files.
22:28 <@dasunt> <_<
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22:28 <@dasunt> This is an app that only runs on windows.
22:28 <@dasunt> I'm looking forward to this.
22:32 <@brimstone> so, they showed the bug in the win32 version of the software by reading the passwd AND shadow files?
22:32 <@brimstone> nice
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22:32 <@sdodson> dasunt: is this some extortion ring like Qualisys?
22:38 <@dasunt> Not sure.
22:38 <@dasunt> But it really makes me want to start a security auditing company.
22:39 < AstralSin> dasunt: i'm in
22:40 < AstralSin> i really need to start my own company but i just don't have the cash for promotions, i have a hookup where i can offer managed services for commission
22:41 <@dasunt> AstralSin: Good.  Unless you are in Minnesota, I can now claim that we are a *national* security auditing company.
22:41 <@dasunt> Lets get a European, so we can be international.
22:42 < AstralSin> well, you can claim the national status :)
22:42 < AstralSin> FUCK i'm out of beer, i guess i'll be moving on to whiskey now
22:44 <@dasunt> I'm on gin & diet pepsi atm.
22:44 <@dasunt> 5 oz.
22:46 < AstralSin> i can't stand the taste of gin, mixed with anything, but then i don't care for any clear liquor
22:46 <+coil> diet
22:46 <+coil> are you pussy?
22:48 <@dasunt> I'm trying to lose weight, damnit!
22:49 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: eat some cock.  It's non-caloric
22:50 < AstralSin> ew
22:50 <@dasunt> I want some nubile young woman to eat my cock instead.
22:50 < AstralSin> i'll have to go with dasunt on this one
22:50 < AstralSin> i dunno about nubile, those 30+ year olds do it better
22:51 <@dasunt> Bah, I'm bitter either day.
22:51 <@dasunt> Er, either way.
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22:57 < R3d2Dawn> Has anyone come across Android - the complete open and free mobile platform?
22:58 <+coil> how many volts and amps run through an ethernet cable
22:59 <@sdodson> coil: I'm pretty sure POE is 48V not sure what the amperage is
23:00 <+coil> im jsut talking about regular ethernet
23:00 <+coil> not poe
23:00 <@sdodson> coil: heard of wikipedia?
23:00 <+coil> no i havent
23:00 <+coil> it's blocked
23:00 <@sdodson> and for what its worth ethernet is available in non copper formats
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23:01 <+coil> okay well all im trying to figure out, is if a patch ethernet cable shorts itself, will it catch on fire?
23:02 <@sdodson> 48V 450mW
23:02 <@sdodson> sorry, 450mA
23:03 <+coil> ohh
23:03 < R3d2Dawn> one its going to depend on the wire gauge of the ethernet cable which could be 22 or 24
23:03 <+coil> but could it catch on fire?
23:04  * brimstone lights the night on fire
23:04 <@sdodson> FI YAH!
23:06 < R3d2Dawn> and anything more than 1Amp you are risking a fire hazard
23:07 < R3d2Dawn> voltage is not so much the issue its more the amps running through the line
23:07 <+coil> yeah i know
23:10 <@sdodson> being that it's regularly run through walls i imagine that for what it's spec'd for use at would not start a fire
23:11 <+coil> okay
23:11 < R3d2Dawn> why you ask anyway
23:11 <+coil> cuz my roommate was saying ethernet cables can start fires
23:12 < AstralSin> ethernet won't cause a fire
23:12 < R3d2Dawn> ahh, well under normal use no
23:12 < AstralSin> unless you've got it hooked into a high voltage source, which would be freaking stupid
23:13 < AstralSin> no one does that though
23:13 < AstralSin> unless they're TRYING to start a fire
23:13 < R3d2Dawn> yeah what he just said.
23:13 <+coil> no it's just carrying data from one switch to the router
23:14 < AstralSin> it won't cause a fire doing that
23:14 < geoffscoffee> only if lightning hits hte house and decides to use it as a path
23:14 < R3d2Dawn> yeah AstralSin is right
23:15 < AstralSin> geoffscoffee: i'm not sure the necessary voltage would even get to the cat5 in that case, i think the router or switch would burn out first
23:15 < AstralSin> if you're worried about cables starting a fire, worry about the power cables, not the cat5
23:16 < R3d2Dawn> yeah it would
23:18 < R3d2Dawn> now using PoE yeah you could run into fire issues, but unlikely
23:18 < AstralSin> ok, i've seen 3 shows tonight where the mom either died or the show portrayed her as dying during most of the show
23:18 < AstralSin> whats up with that on mother's day
23:19 < R3d2Dawn> I say where a apparently killed her kid and committed suicide on mothers day
23:19 < R3d2Dawn> ahh crap
23:19 < R3d2Dawn> I saw
23:19 < R3d2Dawn> damnit
23:20 < R3d2Dawn> I saw where a mother apparently killed her kid then killed her self today
23:20 < AstralSin> aint that a bitch
23:21 < R3d2Dawn> yeah no kidding
23:21 <@sdodson> coil: dude, get a new roommate
23:21 < R3d2Dawn> lol
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23:22 <+coil> sdodson: no i just want to move away
23:22 <+coil> move off the cliff
23:25 <@sdodson> coil: i hear that's a great place to buy
23:27 <+coil> it would be better then this shit hole
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