--- Log opened Wed May 07 00:00:19 2008 00:03 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-127-59-4.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 00:13 -!- rattleX [n=rattle@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:17 -!- juice [n=juice@doc-72-47-33-60.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:19 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["ClickBOOM."] 00:24 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:04 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-184-250.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 01:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 01:58 -!- sdodson_ [n=sdodson@cpe-098-026-113-031.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 01:58 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/sdodson] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:09 -!- Goat21_HM [n=Goat3003@adsl-150-96-100.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 02:09 < Goat21_HM> Hey all 02:27 -!- juice [n=juice@doc-72-47-33-60.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has joined #se2600 02:33 -!- Cynefrid [n=fuck@71-8-201-32.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has quit ["-=SysReset 2.55=-"] 02:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o aestetix] by ChanServ 02:54 -!- aestetix changed the topic of #se2600 to: The Last HOPE, July 18-20, 2008 http://www.thelasthope.org 03:30 -!- Goat21_HM [n=Goat3003@adsl-150-96-100.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [] 04:50 -!- Cynefrid [n=fuck@71-8-201-32.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #se2600 04:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Cynefrid] by ChanServ 04:58 -!- juice [n=juice@doc-72-47-33-60.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:45 < ware> wee 06:45 -!- rattleX is now known as rattle 06:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 06:45 <@rattle> Some mornings are actually nice mornings. 06:45 <@rattle> I may have just lucked into one. 06:58 <@I-MOD> it's kind of dreary here 07:01 <@rattle> I went out to smoke a cig a few minutes ago, and there were five deer grazing about 40 feet from my patio. 07:01 <@Shadow404> awesome 07:01 <@rattle> Yeah. It was actually. 07:02 <@Shadow404> did they start coughing after you lit one up? or ask to bum one? 07:02 <@rattle> No, but two of them watched me the whole time. 07:02 <@Shadow404> cool 07:03 <@rattle> It's pretty often I see one deer scurry around somewhere.. But that's the first time I've seen a whole cadre of them just chilling out behind the houses. 07:04 < R3d2Dawn> I enjoy mornings like that too. Deer move through my backyard allot. We also get some other wild life through here too 07:05 <@I-MOD> damned apartments don't have deer :/ 07:06 <@I-MOD> saw a pair this weekend while kayaking though 07:10 < R3d2Dawn> Yesterday my wife and I has seen some Geese at Opry Mills. They where by the bookstore entrance and where tending to their goslings 07:18 < ware> rattle: my 55 min morning drive out here was nice as well 07:18 < ware> i didnt realize how light out it was at 530 07:22 < ware> ladymerlin: weee! 07:23 < sdodson_> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/05/07/ 07:24 <@I-MOD> mmm...arbies 07:24 <@I-MOD> arby's 07:25 < sdodson_> ya,i'm think'n arby's 07:27 * ware steels sdodson_'s beef n chedderz 07:29 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:30 * ware spanks Dolemite on the ass 07:30 < ware> GOOD MORNING FRIEND! 07:32 <@Dolemite> Well, now. I didn't realize we were that close. 07:32 < sdodson_> you are now 07:32 <@Dolemite> But since you crossed that line... here, put on this mask and put the bit in your mouth. I'll go grab the nipple clamps and the pony tail for you. 07:33 < ware> hahah 07:33 < ware> im all jacked up on coffee 07:33 < ware> too much sugar and not enough cream 07:34 < ware> err. that could be taken out of context 07:35 < R3d2Dawn> lol, yes it could 07:35 < R3d2Dawn> especially if corydon was here 07:36 < ware> he will chime in on it upon logging in, im sure lol 07:36 < R3d2Dawn> Coffee does not do anything for me anymore. To get any affect from coffee it has to have at least 5 shots of espresso 07:37 <@Dolemite> effect 07:37 < R3d2Dawn> damn it....their goes my grammar again 07:38 <@Dolemite> there 07:38 <@Dolemite> And yes, I am a notorious grammar nazi 07:39 < R3d2Dawn> You know I do that every time with their and there, it apparently is a habit. 07:39 < ware> i am to a degree, but the one that really gets under my skin is your and youre 07:39 < R3d2Dawn> I have tried various coffee's so far and nothing, still looking for that one true coffee that can give me that nice good kick in the morning 07:39 <@oddball> ware: you mean your and you're? 07:39 < ware> granted you dont have to put the apostrophe in there, just so long as you use the e when its you are and not possesive 07:39 <@Dolemite> my biggest peeves are "alot", "their/they're/there", and "your/you're" 07:39 < ware> same 07:40 <@Dolemite> "alot" is not a word. It's supposed to be two words. "a" and "lot". 07:40 < ware> oddball: you can tell someone who knows the usage when they add the e or not 07:41 < ware> oddball: youre being a nazi too! ;) 07:41 <@oddball> I only tend to jump on people when they screw up while jumping on someone else. 07:42 <@oddball> aaaannnnnd I should probably head off to work now. 07:42 < ware> holler baller 07:52 < R3d2Dawn> My grammar has gotten bad especially where I work. You would think though my work would enforce proper grammar especially with all the notes we have to take and the State reviews them. 07:53 < R3d2Dawn> Their are a lot of people here that write crappy and apparently I am starting to pick it up. 07:53 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 07:55 < ware> lol funny story, im at a bank workin and apparently someone called the CEO here to inform him that the client was closing their account with the bank because they went thru the drivethru and the teller did not give his dog a biscuit, when she usually does 07:55 <@Dolemite> Well the funny (odd) thing about it is that most people in here do at least some type of coding, whether it be scripting, HTML, or a compiled language. All of that requires exacting and proper syntax, so I'd hate to see how fucked up their code is. 07:56 < ware> so now there is a new policy that all the branches are required to give the clients dog treats if they come through the drivethru or inside, just like suckers for kids 07:56 < ware> lol rediculous 07:56 <@brimstone> i code in python, it puts in the tabs for me 08:01 < R3d2Dawn> so does that mean people can bring their dogs inside to get their treat? 08:09 <@oddball> ware: don't you love the little bullshit that will set some people off? 08:11 <@Shadow404> fun game, so easy ware could probably beat it: http://www.onlinegames.net/games/780/hacker-2.html 08:12 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 08:12 <@Shadow404> tell me which level is the last one, so i can see how long it took 08:12 <@Shadow404> it was way to simple, just trying to work with the crappy menu system was slowing me down 08:13 <@Shadow404> and it doesnt take bla.web, it has to have it spelled out e.g. www.bla.web 08:17 < ware> R3d2Dawn: apparently 08:17 < ware> oddball: ppl complain too much. its a fckn dog treat 08:18 <@oddball> yup 08:18 < ware> i thought it was nice that they were doing it in the first place as being curtious 08:18 < ware> but then that asshole closed his account cause he was expecting it 08:18 <@oddball> same here 08:19 <@oddball> This is why it's good to be at least a little machiavallian in buisness. Do something nice often enough, and people start to expect it. 08:22 <@Corydon76-dig> and it's not like the dog remembers the treat. It's only the owner. 08:31 < ware> Shadow404: Delta Adworks 08:31 <@Shadow404> yep 08:31 <@Shadow404> good work 08:31 <@Shadow404> took me about 8 minutes 08:31 < ware> same 08:31 <@Shadow404> it was still creative 08:32 <@Shadow404> but who in the real world that has a cracker program that can get a password in less than 5 secs 08:32 < ware> i was gonna setup de-ice.net last night at my house on a spare interface on the router 08:32 < AstralSin> mornin 08:32 < ware> and vlan it off and setup a vpn to it 08:33 < ware> so i could mess with it today but i got too tired and didnt get off WoW 08:33 < AstralSin> hah 08:33 < ware> and god help us if i tried to get tim to do it 08:33 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 08:33 < AstralSin> i got into the de-ice cd last night, now i'm working from inside the machine 08:33 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 08:34 < AstralSin> the ultimate goal is to find some document with credit card info in it and crack it 08:34 < ware> oh nice 08:34 < ware> i wanted to set it up here but i dont have a switch 08:35 < ware> cookevegas office is ghetto as balls 08:35 < AstralSin> got vmware? 08:35 < AstralSin> hah 08:36 < ware> ive got a probe box im supposed to install tomorrow that i could run the livecd off of but i dont want it on the same network here 08:37 < ware> actually lemme go snoop and see if i cant find a switch 08:40 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has joined #se2600 08:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 08:44 < ware> boo no fun 08:44 <@dc0de_> wheeee! 08:44 -!- dc0de_ is now known as dc0de 08:45 -!- booker404 [n=booker40@75.147.198.170] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v MaxieZ] by ChanServ 09:02 -!- juice [n=juice@doc-72-47-33-60.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has joined #se2600 09:05 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 09:31 -!- omegix [i=84e4c3cf@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a320552a2ec71743] has joined #se2600 09:31 -!- omegix [i=84e4c3cf@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-a320552a2ec71743] has left #se2600 [] 09:42 < ware> http://www.corsairmemory.com/products/survivor.aspx 09:42 < ware> my birthday is coming up, kthnx 09:43 < ware> ~minilink http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233063&nm_mc=OTC-C173T&cm_mmc=OTC-C173T-_-Memory+(USB+Flash+Drive)-_-Corsair+Memory++Inc.-_-20233063 09:43 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/newegg.com/DKm2H.aspx 09:43 < ware> thanks! 09:45 <@poiupoiu> that's a big thumbdrive 09:55 <@oddball> it's scary that thumbdrives are starting to have the same space as some of the hard drives I'm still running. 09:58 < AstralSin> i can't manage to fill up my 8gb drive 09:58 < AstralSin> i've actually been using the freebie 1gb i got from a security conference a few months ago more than anything lately 09:58 < ware> i can think of plenty of uses for a 30gb thumb drive 09:58 < ware> offsite backup 09:58 < ware> mobile music 09:58 < ware> transerring data 09:58 < ware> bootable OS's 09:59 < AstralSin> yeah, if i had a decent cd player in my car that accepted usb input, i'd love it 09:59 < ware> mobile vpn client 09:59 < ware> im always on a computer somewhere 09:59 < ware> ya know, it needs a headfone jack in the back of it 09:59 < ware> that would be sweet! cause im stuck working on a rack for however long 09:59 < ware> or at someones desk 09:59 < AstralSin> yeah 10:00 <@oddball> ware: just pick up an ipod and be done with it 10:00 < ware> ive got a 2nd gen 40gb but the battery sux 10:00 < ware> and a 4gb nano 10:00 < AstralSin> it would be sweet to construct an mp3 player with a usb jack for that thing :) i think there's an instructable on doing that 10:00 <@oddball> the battery crapped out on you? 10:01 < ware> it lasts for ~30 min after charging over night 10:01 < ware> something stupid like that, i havent used it in awhile other than a hdd 10:02 <@oddball> AstralSin: yeah, SanDisk did just that a while ago. My biggest problem with it was that the biggest thumbdrive at the time was ~1GB. 10:02 <@oddball> ware: sounds like time for an upgrade! 10:03 < ware> i know you can replace the batteries in em 10:04 < ware> ill make that a HC project 10:08 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:08 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has joined #se2600 10:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 10:09 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-184-250.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:11 < sdodson_> like whoa 10:26 <@SkyDog_> Morning all. 10:29 < ware> heya bigdawg 10:31 -!- juice [n=juice@doc-72-47-33-60.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 10:34 <@SkyDog_> Yo. 10:40 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:53 <@SkyDog_> Beep boop. Can you hold onto this bag? 10:55 <@brimstone> sure! 10:55 * brimstone holds a bag 10:55 <@SkyDog_> I love stewie as darth vader. 11:03 <@rhia> http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080505/NEWS01/211276391/1004/SPORTS <--wonder if she thinks she speaks for all s? 11:06 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 11:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 11:07 < R3d2Dawn> who is a software developer guru? 11:08 <@critch> you should just ask the question you have 11:08 <@critch> you may never know who it is that has the answer for you 11:10 <@critch> rhia: out of context, I love this quote, "Milfs doesn't believe the books should be seen by children." 11:10 < R3d2Dawn> let me re-phrase that, can you create a program (example like teracopy) to copy/move a file to another drive or moving it to another folder to do the following: look for a consecutive sectors and if their is none ask you to do a defrag and defrag the free space. Thus preventing fragmentation 11:11 <@critch> no, fragmentation is the responsibilty of the filesystem, not the application. 11:11 <@critch> good software design would keep those concerns seperated. 11:12 < R3d2Dawn> yeah but filesystem suck though. they never do what they are suppose to do 11:13 <@critch> ohh, you must be a poor windows user then. 11:13 < R3d2Dawn> well at least the ntfs / fat do 11:13 < R3d2Dawn> yeah 11:13 <@SkyDog_> I think we could all agree on that. 11:13 < R3d2Dawn> right now I am, been working on linux though 11:13 < R3d2Dawn> keep putting it off 11:14 < R3d2Dawn> but still could you make an app that will do that anyways though? 11:14 <@critch> fragmentation is a problem with poor filesystems and an environment of poor applications creating too many tmp files and swap files in the filesystem. 11:15 <@critch> You shouldn't even try it. Again it is a separation of concerns. If you go modifying the filesystem without the filesystem knowing about it, you are going to create outdated cache information in the filesystem driver and potential corrupt it when the FS goes to write to the drive. 11:17 < R3d2Dawn> hmm...ok apparently I do not understand filesystems and copy/moving files like I though 11:17 < R3d2Dawn> ...though 11:17 < R3d2Dawn> thought 11:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 11:18 <@critch> well, it is just a simple problem that drives are relatively slow, so caching is going to be applied. Caching needs to stay coherent, and if you have multiple processes writing to the FS, you are going to have major problems. 11:19 < R3d2Dawn> Actually, I do not want the app (like teracopy) to actually do the defrag, but to just alert you that their is no consecutive free sectors to copy/move the file too and to let you know you should defrag 11:19 <@critch> It is the same reason fsck tells you you should have a filesystem mounted read-only for the check. 11:19 <@critch> what are you doing that needs consecutive sectors? 11:20 < R3d2Dawn> Right now I am doing allot of transfering of stuff to another hard drive (:( using windows) and of course fragmentation is occuring 11:21 < R3d2Dawn> but I am just think on a more general usage not what I am doing though 11:21 <@critch> it shouldn't if you are transfering it to a new drive. 11:21 <@critch> Also with the way windows is, there are several times when even a defrag doesn't fix the problem. There are just sections you can't move. 11:22 < R3d2Dawn> yeah I know that part, thats why usually once a month I do a boot using a custom BartPE disk to defrag the other stuff 11:23 < R3d2Dawn> I think that is one of the things that I hate of MS the most is the constant fragmentation going on 11:24 < R3d2Dawn> so does linux have issues in that area at all or is it less than what windows provides 11:26 <@critch> Well, most apps don't create temp files all over the place in linux. Also swap is in it's own space and not randomly growing and shrinking in the FS. 11:27 <@critch> I usually don't see more than 2% fragmentation on my system. But that might also be because of the sheer volume of files I have wrapped up in documentation and such that rarely get written to or even touched. 11:28 < R3d2Dawn> So let me see if I understand you correctly, Basically in MS Windows fragmentation mostly occurs due too their usage of temp files and swapping? 11:29 <@critch> I guess it also depends on the FS. Reiser does tail merging to save space, so unless your file ends on a block, it is possible to be fragmented in the tail of the file. 11:29 <@critch> I don't think it is mostly, but it causes a lot of problems. 11:30 < R3d2Dawn> thanks for the info critch 11:30 <@unixfag> I've always understood fragmentation as something that shouldn't be a problem with a well designed filesystem... but I was probably listening to Reiser fanboys 11:32 <@critch> I am of the opinion that a well design FS will help reduce the problem, but it is also a result of usage. And specifically, creating files in parrallel and only deleting some. Add to it the fact that most windows boxes are run at near capacity and you then must squeeze into any little hole you find. 11:32 <@critch> So I lay a portion of the problem on the users of windows as I do on the FS driver in it. 11:35 < R3d2Dawn> not sure I follow on partially being window users? I may do an experimentation of what you are describing. I am kind of curious about the file system and its creating constant fragmentation 11:38 < R3d2Dawn> critch: I have to run an errand real quick, just send me a PM if you don't mind, thanks 11:39 <@critch> PM of what? 11:39 * sdodson_ just finished training on io schedulers 11:39 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@75.143.159.0] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 11:39 < sdodson_> a/s/l! 11:39 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@75.143.159.0] has joined #se2600 11:39 < sdodson_> a/s/l plz 11:40 <@critch> http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/00000/2000/200/2826/2826.strip.print.gif 11:41 < sdodson_> don't allow your file systems to go beyond 75% utilization. 11:57 -!- dc0de [n=jnoble@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:02 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 12:03 <@Shadow404> www.ghen.be/raid.jpg 12:07 <@unixfag> R3d2Dawn: http://memphis2600.org/frag.png 12:15 < ware> http://www.stonermoments.org/index.php?entry=entry080507-125019 12:15 < ware> comments welcomed 12:17 <+coil> it fucking sucks 12:20 < sdodson_> sucks 12:20 < ware> thnx guyz 12:21 <@Shadow404> u fail 12:21 < sdodson_> np, glad to help 12:21 < ware> wut culd haf i dun bettr? 12:21 < ware> 2maek it leet liek u 12:21 <@Shadow404> died in a fire? 12:21 <@Shadow404> and posted that 12:22 < sdodson_> ware: dunno, i'm just bored 12:22 < ware> i thought it was very informative and useful for people in this crowd 12:22 < ware> granted most should already know all of it 12:22 < sdodson_> i didn't even click on it 12:22 < sdodson_> i will check it when iget home 12:23 < ware> ah yeah that domain isnt really the best one to be seen on the filters 12:23 <@Shadow404> ok sdodson_, i have an arguement with your logic 12:23 <@Shadow404> if you're gonna put him down for what he posted, at least take a glance at the content before you start giving him shit 12:23 <@Shadow404> thats only fair 12:24 <+coil> i read the first paragraph 12:25 <@Shadow404> see, coil can give him shit all he wants, as he at least looked at it 12:41 -!- Lissa [n=lissa@c-71-228-222-87.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 12:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Lissa] by ChanServ 12:46 <@Evilpig> fun with tech support. HP in the firefox window for a PS and a laptop and dell in the IE window for this POS they didn't fi last week 12:50 < ware> hehe both of their chat support is shit imo 12:51 <@Evilpig> the hp one is worse. 12:52 <@polerin> http://youtube.com/watch?v=uPvh-NCxZYY 12:52 <@polerin> awesome 12:52 <@Evilpig> fucking lazy shit ass dell tech returned the parts saying he had multiple failed contact attempts with the plant here. yet the stupid shit talked to randy on monday and told him he would be there in two hours 12:52 <@Evilpig> the lazy piece of shit just didn't show 12:52 <@Lissa> tell us how you really feel 12:52 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:52 <@NotLarry> as much as they pay dell there too 12:53 <+coil> it's austin what do you expect 12:54 < ware> i 12:54 <@Evilpig> I think if you have a gold contract next day support contract they should show up the next business day and not three days later then call three days later and say they will be there in two hours then just not fucking shwo up 12:54 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: I fired up the kids new computer monday, spent two days running the antivirus software, still can't get vista off the machine. 12:55 <@NotLarry> Is it just the plant or dosn't the whole company go dell? 12:57 <@Evilpig> whole company now 12:57 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 12:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 13:00 < ware> d 13:00 <+coil> s 13:00 <+coil> t 13:00 <@NotLarry> Randy needs to call his dell rep and have a little talk. 13:00 <+coil> f 13:00 <+coil> u 13:26 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 13:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 13:53 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-149-98.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 13:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 14:14 -!- Maxie1 [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 14:27 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 14:33 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:34 < sdodson_> ok 14:44 <@critch> hmm, a melody behind Beastie Boys, http://preview.tinyurl.com/4j86pz 15:21 -!- critch [n=critch@c-71-228-211-57.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:22 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has left #se2600 [] 16:26 <@GodFix> anyone ever use Mandtriva? 16:28 < ware> Corydon76 is a mandriva user 16:28 -!- deoptima [i=deoptima@c-69-243-206-245.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o deoptima] by ChanServ 16:29 <@GodFix> that's my next linux adventure 16:30 < ware> if you havent tried opensuse i would reccomend it 16:30 < ware> im about 2 weeks in and i love it 16:30 <@ShadowHntr> me too 16:31 <@GodFix> my boss is using that right now on a a 1ghz/1gb sff box 16:31 <@GodFix> the video on it sucks 16:31 <@GodFix> but that's because of the hardware 16:31 -!- critch [n=critch@steven.basesys.com] has joined #se2600 16:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o critch] by ChanServ 16:31 < ware> http://u.nf/~w/screenshot.jpg screenshot1.jpg 16:31 <@critch> http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/NEWS/80507044 16:32 < ware> mines got a GeForce 5200 FX and its fine 16:32 < ware> critch: hahaha nice 16:32 <@GodFix> his has a VIA chipset, not meant to push a gui, but flies on cli 16:33 <@ShadowHntr> geforce 7025 integrated on my desktop 16:33 <@ShadowHntr> ATI Radeon Xpress 200M on my laptop 16:33 <@critch> GeForce4 MX 4000 (GPU 0), GeForce 7300 SE (GPU 1) 16:38 -!- deoptima [i=deoptima@c-69-243-206-245.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )"] 16:44 < ware> is there an opensource app that will read quickbooks files 16:51 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: no, you'll need to export them 17:05 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 17:07 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 17:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 17:11 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Client Quit] 17:24 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-127-59-4.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 17:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 17:29 * ware is being devious as fuck and loves it 17:30 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 17:33 < ware> Corydon76-dig: YO 17:33 < ware> err nvm 17:33 < ware> http://www.linuxcanada.com/quasar.shtml 17:34 < ware> but i dont think it opens quickbooks 17:34 < ware> and its canada. 17:34 <@MudFlap> eh? 17:34 <@Corydon76-dig> and it's not open source 17:34 <@brimstone> what'cha goin' on 'aboot? 17:36 < ware> i got a quickbooks db that needs to be gotten into 17:36 < ware> but i dont really have quickbooks 17:37 <@Corydon76-dig> You're going to need a copy, then export the data 17:38 < ware> or just have quickboos for winders 17:38 < ware> i figured there would be an open source solution for it tho 17:38 < ware> considering as many people use it 17:39 <@Corydon76-dig> There's open source accounting, yes 17:39 <@Corydon76-dig> You could try MS Office Accounting Express, and see if it will import QuickBooks 17:40 -!- Pr0nStrGeek_home [n=Pr0nStrG@68-113-73-13.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #se2600 17:41 < ware> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3894241/QuickBooks.Premier.2007___Crack 17:41 < ware> just have to open it in a vm 17:41 < ware> cuz fux dat shiz 17:42 < ware> nahmeansun'? 17:42 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:47 -!- Maxie1 [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:53 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 17:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 18:12 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone, brookshire: ping 18:13 <@Corydon76-dig> teh vpn is teh down 18:16 < R3d2Dawn> any opinions on DiskTrix UltimateDefrag program? 18:16 -!- Gregabyte_ [n=wintermu@216.207.245.1] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:16 -!- SavantFrost [n=wintermu@216.207.245.1] has joined #se2600 18:17 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig: apid decided that now was a good time to do maintaince 18:17 <@brimstone> it should be back up now 18:17 <@Corydon76-dig> danke 18:29 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["At least I didn't have to invent 26 dimensions to get the math to work."] 18:31 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o strages] by ChanServ 18:39 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-127-59-4.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 18:44 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:53 -!- dc0de [n=jnoble@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 18:53 <@dc0de> mutha-fuckin 18:53 <@dc0de> snakes 18:53 <@dc0de> on 18:53 <@dc0de> a 18:53 <@dc0de> plane 18:53 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 18:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 19:05 < AstralSin> sup tcstool 19:06 < sdodson_> HI GUYS! 19:08 <@tcstool> AstralSin: you solve it yet? 19:09 < AstralSin> i got into the ssh part but i haven't completed the challenge 19:09 < AstralSin> been busy today 19:09 < AstralSin> been pissed off most of the day, had a pretty good phone interview going till my cell phone lost fucking signal 19:09 < AstralSin> couldn't get back in touch with the guy, left him a message though 19:09 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 19:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 19:10 < AstralSin> and my friend who went for an interview right after i did for a job 2 weeks ago got a call back for a second interview but i didn't 19:10 < AstralSin> he can't handle that job 19:10 < AstralSin> i could though 19:11 <@tcstool> heh 19:11 <@tcstool> what kind of job is it? 19:11 < AstralSin> its network support for 5 newspaper locations 19:11 < AstralSin> installing servers, maintaining firewalls, fixing large printers, supporting end users 19:11 < sdodson_> http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/college-waterpipe-smoking-growing-public-health-problem-16259.html "More and more U.S. college students are smoking tobacco using waterpipes – or hookahs..." yaaaaa tobacco 19:12 < AstralSin> i've tried tobacco out of both a waterpipe and hookah, it was harsh 19:12 < sdodson_> AstralSin: convince your friend to have them give it to you 19:12 * brimstone is known as sdodson 19:12 < AstralSin> unpleasant 19:12 < AstralSin> sdodson_: he's prolly gonna push for them to hire me as well 19:12 < sdodson_> brimstone: WHYYYYY? 19:12 <@brimstone> you weren't using it 19:12 < AstralSin> he already suggested that the position is a 2 man job 19:12 < sdodson_> brimstone: i've moved on to a much cooler nick 19:13 < sdodson_> brimstone: you can have that one 19:13 < AstralSin> to them, i mean 19:13 <@sasquatc4> alot of campuses have hookah bars, so yea, there are alot using tobacco in em 19:13 < sdodson_> i heard sdodson was an asshole anyway 19:13 <@sasquatc4> at least at the bars 19:13 < AstralSin> sasquatc4: thats different tobacco, its hookah blend 19:13 <@sasquatc4> still tobacco 19:13 * brimstone is known as brimstone_______________________________________________________________more_than_sdodson_ 19:13 < AstralSin> i just put some regular old pipe tobacco in it 19:13 < sdodson_> brimstone: you will spend your entire life trying to be as cool as me! 19:14 < AstralSin> tcstool: i'm a bit confused by looking at the de-ice forums, it seems that some people have found the credit card file without even having cracked the simple ssh login 19:14 <@brimstone> they invented the phrase "a day late and a dollar short" because of me sdodson___________________________ 19:14 < AstralSin> i can't find it, i'm pretty sure i know where it is though 19:15 <@tcstool> Yeah I think there's more than one way to do it 19:15 < AstralSin> im working on cracking the second login now, the important one 19:15 < AstralSin> but its slow in this vm 19:16 < AstralSin> why the hell am i doing it from a vm, i have the necessary tools on my main machine 19:16 < AstralSin> <-- stupid 19:17 < sdodson_> http://www.bsdmag.org/ didn't they try that a long time ago? 19:17 < sdodson_> AstralSin: agreed 19:19 -!- sdodson_ is now known as sdodson 19:19 <@tcstool> Yeah I fortunately have a lot of spare routers and firewalls 19:19 <@tcstool> and 2 laptops 19:19 <@tcstool> So I did them that way 19:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 19:29 <@sdodson> <--- conversation killer 19:31 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@adsl-074-244-039-095.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 19:33 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@adsl-074-244-039-095.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:36 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:40 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 19:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 19:48 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["leaving"] 19:50 <@dc0de> that was a stupid movie... 19:50 <@brimstone> ? 19:50 <@dc0de> I am sick of these mutha-fuckin-snakes on this mutha-fuckin-plane. 19:51 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:51 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 19:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 19:57 -!- NotLarry [n=notlarry@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:58 -!- Mirage [n=mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:01 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 20:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 20:02 <@sdodson> uh oh 20:03 <@tcstool> what? 20:04 * brimstone falls through the ceiling of the channel and onto a table 20:04 * brimstone jumps up and runs out 20:04 <@sasquatc4> ooooh, just got an invite to aviary 20:06 <@sdodson> wtf is that? 20:07 <@Feltenix> it is a place filled with birds 20:07 <@polerin> heh 20:07 <@sasquatc4> http://a.viary.com 20:07 -!- dc0de [n=jnoble@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:09 <@sdodson> air?! 20:09 <@sdodson> i hope air never takes off 20:15 -!- Netsplit zelazny.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @Drag0n, @someninjaserver, SavantFrost, aestetix_, @brimstone, @nachoguy, @critch 20:16 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @critch, SavantFrost, aestetix_, @someninjaserver, @nachoguy, @brimstone, @Drag0n 20:17 <@sasquatc4> why, what you got against air 20:24 <@sdodson> adobe 20:24 <@tcstool> adobe? 20:27 -!- dc0de [n=jnoble@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 20:30 <@sdodson> tcstool: .com ? 20:38 * sdodson grooves to brimstone radio on last.fm 20:39 -!- Pr0nStrGeek_home [n=Pr0nStrG@68-113-73-13.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:39 <@brimstone> sdodson: http://tv.timbormans.com/ ? 20:39 <@sasquatc4> well the sample apps they got up there are pretty nifty, ill give them that 20:40 <@sdodson> brimstone: that's hip 20:41 <@brimstone> werd 20:42 < R3d2Dawn> Alright Guys choose a spelling: Caden, Caiden, or Cayden? Which do you like better or think would be better. I am having another boy due in August 20:42 < R3d2Dawn> and girls 20:43 <@maco> i like the way my friend Kaden spells it 20:43 <@sdodson> I think if you spelled it any way other than Caden it'd be a sure sign that you hate your son. 20:43 < R3d2Dawn> why is that? 20:44 <@sdodson> Do you really want him to spend his life "That's see eh why..." 20:44 <@sdodson> "No, no, there's an eye in there..." 20:44 <@sdodson> "Damn i hate my dad." 20:45 -!- Mirage [n=mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 20:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 20:46 <@sdodson> I want an Awesomeo. 20:47 < R3d2Dawn> sdodson: still don't understand why? 20:47 < R3d2Dawn> are you saying cause its harder to spell? 20:53 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-127-59-4.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 20:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 20:55 <@sdodson> Yes. 20:59 < R3d2Dawn> or what about Caeden or Keighden, I don't care if its hard to spell 21:00 < R3d2Dawn> it will just make him that much smarter once he learns it 21:05 < R3d2Dawn> Caiden or Caeden 21:08 -!- juice [n=juice@doc-72-47-33-60.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has joined #se2600 21:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o juice] by ChanServ 21:13 < AstralSin> tcstool: just finished disk 1 21:19 < R3d2Dawn> so Caiden or Caeden? which sounds better and looks better 21:21 <@brimstone> as phonetic as possible 21:21 <@brimstone> kaden 21:22 <@brimstone> don't make life hard on the kid 21:24 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["kde4 is too buggy. back to gnome."] 21:27 -!- maco [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 21:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maco] by ChanServ 21:38 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:40 <@sdodson> i'm doing some stupid stuff just for the hell of it 21:40 <@sdodson> like plotting my laptop fan speed with awk and gnuplot 21:40 <@ShadowHntr> lol 21:40 <@brimstone> that's important stuff right there 21:40 <@brimstone> you can put it into your awk irc bot 21:40 <@brimstone> or on your awk web server 21:40 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps temperature vs. fan speed would be a better indicator? 21:41 <@sdodson> i could plot them both 21:45 <@maco> having too much fun with lm-sensors? 21:45 <@sdodson> This is just reading stuff from /proc 21:47 <@polerin> sdodson: dump it to a db, along with the current processes and you can build an idea of the fan speed for each process 21:47 <@polerin> XD 21:48 <@sdodson> uhhh no 21:49 <@sdodson> my testing consists of visiting youtube to drive up cpu temp 21:49 <@sdodson> think it's time to ask the boss man for a faster laptop 21:49 <@sdodson> "Ya, so i can only view one youtube video at once" 21:49 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps seti@home would be a good stress test? 21:53 -!- MudFlap_ [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap_] by ChanServ 21:56 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 21:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 21:56 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: youtube is doing fine, kthnx 22:03 -!- MudFlap_ [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 22:17 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["At least I didn't have to invent 26 dimensions to get the math to work."] 22:23 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-127-59-4.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 22:29 <@sdodson> http://sdodson.com/fanspeed.png the time between the spikes is roughly the time it took me to figure out multiaxes plotting in gnuplot :) 22:34 <@brimstone> why not rrdtool? 22:34 <@sdodson> dunno 22:36 * sdodson injects a bunch of systemtap stuff into brimstone's system 23:14 <@aestetix> god damnit 23:14 <@aestetix> I'm going to texas this weekend 23:14 <@aestetix> So I miss out on a sex party 23:15 <+coil> brimstone: snapl 23:15 <@brimstone> ssshh coil, i wanna hear about all this sex that aestetix's is gonna miss out on 23:17 <+coil> aestetix: what part of texas 23:17 <+coil> so i know to avoid that part 23:29 <@maco> aestetix: "sex party"? 23:30 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: would you also like to hear about the sex party I'm going to miss out on? 23:30 <@sdodson> Both are non existant. 23:31 <@sdodson> man i really need to lay off the double shot mochas at 9pm 23:31 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: A little wired? 23:32 <@sdodson> ya and i'm tired of studying and i have to meet someone at work at 8am 23:32 <@sdodson> EIGHT EH EM! 23:32 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I was planning on telling him that I'll tell him all about it, as soon as I get invited to one 23:32 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: you so coy 23:33 * Corydon76-dig bats eyelashes 23:34 <@sdodson> i've discovered that jam bands are great to do work to 23:34 <@sdodson> other stuff i get too fucking ADD and cna't pay attention. 23:34 <@Corydon76-dig> you wanna ride a bike? 23:35 <@sdodson> uhh, is this a trick question? 23:35 <@Corydon76-dig> oooo, shiny! 23:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Bedtime for me 23:39 -!- JimShoe_ [n=jimshoe@208.72.153.173] has joined #se2600 23:59 <@polerin> sdodson: I usually go for ambient, breakbeats, or industrial 23:59 <@polerin> acid jazz or experimental post rock is ok too --- Log closed Thu May 08 00:00:19 2008