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00:56 <+coil> hi dasunt
00:57 <@dasunt> coil: I'm faking my own death.
01:05 <+coil> why
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05:07 <@GodFix> RC: The Mystery Tree... Des the photgrpaher know what it is and is trying to see if anyone can guess, or is it tuly a mystery?
05:07 <@GodFix> s>RC>RE
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07:31 <@mtown_nerd> http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vczE1LnBob3RvYnVja2V0LmNvbS9hbGJ1bXMvYTM4Ni9zdGlua2RhaXN5Lz9hY3Rpb249dmlldyZjdXJyZW50PXdvcmtmcmllbmRzLmdpZg==  It's so true.  :(
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07:48 <@brimstone> mtown_nerd: that link is horrible
07:49 <@I-MOD> that's b64 text at the end....
07:49 <@I-MOD> wtf
07:50 <@GodFix> I couldn't get the link to open
07:50 <@GodFix> what's the actual URL
07:50 <@GodFix> I hate that myspace url masking
07:50 <@sdodson> http://s15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/stinkdaisy/?action=view&current=workfriends.gif
07:51 <@GodFix> that's awesome
07:51 <@sdodson> you think?
07:51 <@I-MOD> it's so awesome, it's anti-awesome
07:51 <@sdodson> It makes me wonder if we'd be better off killing the author and using him as fertilizer to grow more corn for E85.
07:51  * I-MOD agrees
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07:55 <@sdodson> Th at's my new insult.
07:55 <@sdodson> "You know soceity would be better if we exterminated you, used your ashes as fertilizer to grow corn for E85 for Paris Hilton's hummer."
07:59 <@dc0de> sdodson; the world would be better if we did that to Paris Hilton
07:59 <@dc0de> how about using the fuel for Al Gore's private jet instead?
08:01 < AstralSin> mornin
08:13 < dmcmorris_esi> Paris Hilton drives a hummer?
08:19 <@brimstone> sdodson: i think that would be more effective if you could get that double "for" out
08:25 <@Dolemite> My, oh my.  Haven't we been spicy in channel lately?
08:25 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:26 <@oddball> are we having fun yet?
08:28 <@brimstone> i'm always having fun
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08:29 <@Dolemite> I will be once I'm drinking my hot chocolate
08:44 < aestetix> wow I accidentally just goatsed someone's boss
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08:48 <@polerin> nice aestetix
08:48 <@polerin> next are you going to rick roll them?
08:48 <@polerin> "Here's your quarterly report."
08:48 <@polerin> "wtf?
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08:51 < poiupoiu> mornin all
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09:00 < ware> GOOD MORNING!
09:01  * ladymerlin turns teh volume down on ware
09:03 < ware> lol@list
09:04 < ware> ill have to read yet another of his wonderful rants later
09:05 < ware> although i have to give him kudos as this is the first time ive seen such a stink on the mailing list about something that happened here
09:05 <@brimstone> i didn't get any rants :(
09:05 < ware> brimstone: me neither =/
09:05 <@brimstone> did they go to se2600 or nash2600?
09:06 < ware> south east
09:07 < ware> you know, i _love_ the way _He_ makes words _standout_
09:07 <@brimstone> at LEAST he's not one of THOSE people with SHIFT problems
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09:10 < ware> yeah
09:11 < ware> i feel like i should strech my e-penis on the list too
09:11  * ware whips it out
09:12  * MudFlap laughs.
09:13  * ware mushroomprints brimstone 
09:13 < ware> TWHAP!
09:14 <@brimstone> i have a feeling that doesn't involve plants at all
09:14 <@ladymerlin> ware put that thing up! we dotn wanan see that
09:14 <@I-MOD> brimstone, you're right, it involves fungus!
09:15 < ware> ladymerlin: its got a mind of its own! WEEEEEEEEEEEWOOOOOOHHHHAAAAA
09:15  * ladymerlin hoses ware down with cold water
09:16 < ware> i needed that
09:16  * oddball hands ladymerlin a large knife
09:16 <@Dolemite> Corydon should like my latest blog entry
09:16 <@Dolemite> http://www.cadmuslabs.net/index.php
09:17 < ware> hahaha
09:17 < ware> my bros went there on a scout trip and said it was awesome
09:22 <@brimstone> lol, "don't throw items from overlook"
09:23 < ware> :D Dolemite's idear
09:27 < ware> oh hell yeah its payday
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09:34 <@Dolemite> So gas is now at a price such that buying Supreme makes sense if you get an additional 2 miles per gallon when using Supreme (like my car does).
09:35 <@Dolemite> Given 1500 miles per month and a $0.20 premium for using Supreme, in one year you'll save $101 due to the increased efficiency.
09:35 <@Dolemite> That's at $3.50/gallon.  As gas prices go up, the savings go up.
09:37 <@Evilpig> I buy midgrade.
09:37 <@Evilpig> not that I pay for gas anyhow
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09:41 < dmcmorris_esi> I was buying mid-grade for a while, but now back to regular... $0.10/gal more, I'm ok with... $0.16/gal more, I don't feel good about....
09:42 < dmcmorris_esi> oh, and then there's the stations that put premium in the middle so you select the wrong one ;)
09:45 <@Dolemite> most of the places near me are still only $0.10/gallon more between each grade
09:45 <@Dolemite> Daily's Markets are doing the crazy $0.15/$0.20 price premiem per grade
09:46 <@Dolemite> but I refuse to buy gas at Daily's anyway.  They're as bad as Starfucks in terms of buying every damn street corner to put up a gas station.
09:48 <@Evilpig> if I use the regular my truck gets some engine knock going on.  my mechanic told me I just need to run higher grade gas in it and as soon as I switched it went away
09:48 < dmcmorris_esi> interesting
09:48 < dmcmorris_esi> on my old car, I used to use regular with a bottle of injector cleaner/octane boost
09:49 <@Evilpig> wouldn't it just be cheaper to get the higher grade gas at that point?
09:49 < dmcmorris_esi> come to think of it, it would've probably been cheaper to use just premium :-/
09:49 <@aestetix> ok
09:49 <@aestetix> maybe someone can explain this to me
09:49 <@aestetix> I'm editing HTML generated by Word
09:49 <@Dolemite> that's why I did this little exercise...   to quantify just how much it saves to go with the higher grade
09:50 <@aestetix> There's a CSS table at the top, in the header tag.... which has a neat index of all the elements, which attributes for each of them.
09:50 <@aestetix> This is commented out.
09:50 <@aestetix> Instead, in each actual element, there's a style attribute with a clusterfuck of properties.
09:50 <@aestetix> what the fuck?
09:51 <@aestetix> It's like they almost made it nice and neat, then said "naaaaah"
09:51 <@Evilpig> that's microsoft for you
09:51 <@I-MOD> you should punch them in the face
09:51 <@I-MOD> through the internet
09:51 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/~wilbur/mpg.htm
09:51 <@aestetix> I cannot understand the logic here.
09:51 <@Evilpig> I use excel for that
09:51 <@Evilpig> and it does the same thing
09:52 <@polerin> aestetix: dood.. don't bother with the word thing. I've given up trying to do them.. as you said, clusterfuck
09:53 <@aestetix> polerin: I actually managed to get everything converted properly.
09:53 <@aestetix> Took 2-3 days of figuring this shit out and editing it.
09:53 <@polerin> see, is that worthwhile?
09:53 <@aestetix> for this project, yes
09:53 <@polerin> you could create your own clean structure, and then just copy and paste the text
09:53 <@aestetix> now if I had to do it 800 times, hell no
09:54 <@aestetix> I just had to proprly format the template for something
09:54  * I-MOD uses vi or perl to generate html, especially handy if the data is in csv format :D
09:54 <@aestetix> I-MOD: I'm using vim to edit this stuff
09:54 <@brimstone> awk man
09:55 <@brimstone> awk is where it's at
09:55 <@aestetix> basically I'm taking a word based reporting system, and converting it into a web application
09:55 < AstralSin> man awk
09:55 <@I-MOD> unfortunately, there are two things preventing me from using awk
09:55 <@aestetix> so I wanted to get everything looking exactly like the word documents
09:55 <@I-MOD> 1. I don't know awk, and 2. I'm too lazy to learn it
09:56 <@brimstone> awk == regex with conditionals
09:56  * ware pushes brimstone into the conditional
09:56 <@I-MOD> i barely know regex well enough to read some of the crazy shit people do
09:56 <@aestetix> regex is fun
09:56  * brimstone backreferences ware
09:56 < ware> anyone use something other than evolution for outlook replacement on linoox
09:56 <@aestetix> ware: pine or mutt?
09:56  * ware pops brimstone
09:56 < AstralSin> thunderbird
09:56 <@polerin> aestetix: so?   bring it up and look at it in firebug, then use a clean template to fix it
09:57 <@polerin> **shrugs**
09:57  * brimstone pushes ware onto the stack
09:57 <@I-MOD> thunderbird
09:57 <@I-MOD> or icedove if you're on debian
09:57 < ware> aestetix: ive not used a cli mail client intensively before and not sure i want to.  do they have calendering / public folder support for exchange?
09:58  * aestetix shrugs
09:58  * ware sets brimstone's dns server to 255.255.255.255
09:59 < ware> aestetix: have to to be an outlook / evolution replacement
09:59 <@polerin> icedove
09:59 <@polerin> heh
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10:00 <@brimstone> this is getting less and less techinical
10:01 < ware> you know im not a technical person! shit, all these high-fangled vcr's that beep and whirr, all i want is my porn!
10:01 <@brimstone> you're a classic twelve o'clock flasher
10:01 < ware> its too true :(
10:01 <@brimstone> every appliance is always flashing "12:00"
10:01 <@brimstone> :D
10:02  * ware  # init 0s brimstone
10:06  * aestetix isn't technical
10:06 <@aestetix> but i like pretty pictures
10:09 < ware> Jason: patient on the table....citrix is down...
10:11 <@polerin> brimstone: oh god, Some techs are like that
10:12 <@polerin> brimstone: "Internet explorer just said It couldn't display the page."   'Ok, what's your IP?'   "... Hold on I'm going to reboot the computer."  ' No Don...'  "no no it's ok, I'm just gonna reboot it. *shutdown noise*"
10:12 <@aestetix> polerin: is there an easy way to fetch all the names of vars sent in a superglobal in PHP?
10:12 <@aestetix> Say I have a bunch of POST data.... and I want a list of all the names, without values
10:12 <@polerin> aestetix: what do you meen fetch?
10:12 <@aestetix> print_r is decent....
10:12 <@polerin> yeah
10:13 <@polerin> do you meen use, or do you meen dump the data?
10:13 <@aestetix> I want to get all the names, so I can dump it into an array, and sort through them
10:13 <@polerin> foreach ($foo as $bar => $baz) { //$bar is a key, $baz is the matching member }
10:13 <@polerin> ... it IS an array
10:14 <@polerin> you can do $_POST['foo']
10:14 <@polerin> or you can iterate through it, or anything else like that
10:14 <@aestetix> that worked
10:14 <@aestetix> thanks
10:15 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
10:15 < AstralSin> anyone here work for google?
10:16 <@dc0de> no, but I have a few good friends that do.
10:16 < AstralSin> oh, heh, ok :)
10:16 <@aestetix> dc0de: know anyone at GoogleNYC?
10:16 <@dc0de> nope, Google ATL
10:16 <@aestetix> bvah
10:16 <@dc0de> south side data center.
10:16 < ware> #webdev
10:16 < AstralSin> just thought of a way to subvert the ad system
10:16 < AstralSin> maybe
10:17 <@polerin> dc0de: I decided to take your advice and actually ask if some people wanted to pick it up.  I've no illusions about my writing, but hey... never hurts to ask
10:17 <@aestetix> which is?
10:17 <@polerin> hehe
10:17 <@polerin> sent a message to Ars first
10:17 < AstralSin> use a proxy to click your own ads
10:17 <@nachoguy> South Side?
10:17 <@dc0de> polerin; it is a very good article, and I think that someone will pick it up.
10:17 <@nachoguy> is the south Side of ATL like the south side of Chi?
10:17 <@dc0de> nachoguy; there are two Google Data Centers in ATL.
10:18 <@dc0de> one on the North side (Buford) and one on the South Side.
10:18 <@nachoguy> Google opend a chi datacenter a while ago, but I'm not sure where it's at
10:19 <@polerin> dc0de: **shrugs**
10:19 <@polerin> If it's one more voice in the croud...
10:19 <@dc0de> polerin; I'm not blowing smoke, it's a great article.
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10:19 <@nachoguy> article?  link please
10:19 <@polerin> heh
10:20 <@polerin> it's not really an article at this point, more in the format of a paper.   Can be rewritten fairly easily though
10:20 <@dc0de> polerin; if no one else picks it up, I'll publish it on my blog if you want...
10:20 <@dc0de> with my comments...
10:20 <@polerin> http://stevie.eclexia.net/erin/warrantless.rtf
10:22 <@nachoguy> hrm, have to email it to myself.  openoffice just took a dive on me
10:22 <@polerin> lol
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10:23 <@I-MOD> "trusted to with"
10:23 <@nachoguy> something with openoffice and ratpoison occasionally locks the machine up
10:23 <@nachoguy> thankfully this time openoffice just killed it self after about 40 seconds
10:26 <@polerin> if you want, I'll dump it to a pdf when I get home
10:26 <@polerin> or someone else might.  don care
10:26 < ware> anyone having issues with gmail and firefox 3 lagging
10:27 < AstralSin> nope
10:28 < ware> lags when i scroll
10:28 <@nachoguy> polerin, nah, I'll read it when I get home,my home machien is fucked up in several ways, but it can work openoffice just fine
10:28 < ware> but only in gmail
10:28 <@polerin> nods
10:29 <@polerin> yeah it's sorta RFC at this point...
10:33 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
10:34  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
10:39  * dc0de passes SkyDog_ a cup of coffee.
10:39 <@dc0de> sup 'Dog!
10:39 <@aestetix> dongz
10:40 <@nachoguy> Dong, where is my automobile?
10:41 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Thanks, I needed that.
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10:41 <@dc0de> np... got yer back
10:41 <@SkyDog_> "AUTOMOBILE?" hahahah!
10:42 <@Evilpig> white whale! http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3340/1205690546921ze9.png
10:47 <@aestetix> Wow, I just learned what bound parameters are.
10:48 <@aestetix> I've been using them for over a year and never knew it.
10:49 < ware> Evilpig: ROFL
10:49 <@mtown_nerd> rofl @ white whale
10:58 <@polerin> aestetix: what, passing in an array?
10:59 <@polerin> oh, stored procedures?
11:01 <@aestetix> god
11:02 <@aestetix> why does the hot chick in my office have to be wearing glasses
11:02 <@aestetix> polerin: I figured it out.
11:02 <@aestetix> oh wait... the bound parameters thing was unrelated :p
11:02 <@polerin> figured what out?
11:02 <@polerin> yeah I was trying to figure out what you were meaning by bound parameters.. . was that for a stored proc?
11:02 <@aestetix> no
11:03 <@aestetix> It was something in the past that I did, I didn't realize it was called a "bound parameter"
11:03 <@polerin> what is it?
11:03 <@aestetix> what?
11:03 <@polerin> that's the only context I've seen that name as...  so what did you do that classfies
11:03 <@SkyDog_> Who?
11:03 <@aestetix> yea, a stored proc
11:05 <@polerin> ok
11:05 <@polerin> I'm seriously confused now.
11:05 <@polerin> you WERE talking about bound params in the context of a stored procedure, or not?  If not, what was the context?
11:05 <@polerin> lol
11:06 <@aestetix> just ignore it.
11:06 <@aestetix> It was a side comment on a project I did like six months ago.
11:06 <@aestetix> And I just learned that what I had done was called a bound parameter.
11:06  * polerin gives up.
11:07 <@aestetix> And yes, I was.
11:07 <@oddball> damn... I wish this wasn't $70: http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2008/04/30/adorable-alien-vinyl.html
11:20 <@critch> did you see that the majority of the others are $150
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11:23 <@oddball> I haven't looked at his other stuff yet.
11:30 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: I got the other two LCD displays  for teh video this year.
11:30 <@someninjamaster> awesome
11:30 <@SkyDog_> That gives us three LCD's for preview, and my Sony DVD player for post.
11:34 <@polerin> SkyDog_: are you investing in lighting this year?  :P
11:35 <@SkyDog_> Heh. Nope.
11:35 <@SkyDog_> I think it ruined the video last year.
11:35 <@SkyDog_> I know some lighting would help, but I think it blew out the video.
11:35 <@polerin> you just have to adjust the cameras at that point
11:35 <@SkyDog_> Neoteric wants to provide it, but I think we use it only for the Why you suck, if they do it.
11:36 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, but we're using commodity equipment, and we're not looking for extreme professional quality.
11:36 <@polerin> you don't need a whole bunch but just a big of lighting from above and slightly forwards would really really help
11:36 <@SkyDog_> Just to get the point across.
11:36 <@SkyDog_> I do have a lighting rig that was given to me. We may test it.
11:36 <@polerin> oh, I know, but thats the biggest gain I can see from all the previous setup
11:36 <@SkyDog_> Billy made a good point. without lighting, he could see his audience.
11:36 <@polerin> you don't have to blind them
11:36 <@polerin> lol
11:36 <@SkyDog_> True.
11:36 <@polerin> just put like three stationary spots
11:37 <@Evilpig> the lighting didn't blow out the video that bad.  the sound was shot though
11:37 <@SkyDog_> Yeah. We're gonna get better at it this year.
11:37 <@SkyDog_> New equipment and more tests.
11:37 <@Evilpig> less fiddling with the knobs
11:37 <@polerin> hehe
11:37 <@polerin> Set it up, and leave it the fuck alone.
11:37 <@SkyDog_> I personally bought the LCD's for the preview and post.
11:38 <@someninjamaster> im hoping to have more help this year
11:38 <@SkyDog_> I want to have good quality video so that those that couldn't make it can at least see what it's about.
11:38 <@someninjamaster> i think i got stinky steve on board
11:38 <@polerin> don't try to pull audio off of the cameras, if nothing else use a mic in the croud to pick up croud reaction
11:38 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Yeah, we need to make sure you have a crew that is dependable.
11:38 <@polerin> someninjamaster: Welcome to A/V
11:38 <@SkyDog_> I think both you and wiz got burnt out.
11:38 <@SkyDog_> polerin: We didn't pull audio off the cameras.
11:38 <@someninjamaster> i got burned out at wiz
11:39 <@SkyDog_> It came off the mixer, from the mics.
11:39 <@polerin> SkyDog_: I didn't think you did, just running my mouth
11:39 <@polerin> heh
11:39 <@SkyDog_> Ah.
11:39 <@SkyDog_> use proper punctuation though. ;)
11:39 <@polerin> someninjamaster: yeah, you really need 3+ people, with one IN charge, and taking charge
11:39 <@SkyDog_> I think we had the right idea last year, but execution got a bit fried.
11:39 <@someninjamaster> yeah
11:39 <@SkyDog_> We're gonna make a few changes and have a better plan.
11:39 <@polerin> SkyDog_: it's a pain to get right the first couple times
11:40 <@SkyDog_> I have faith.
11:40 <@SkyDog_> polerin: Damn skippy.
11:40 <@polerin> :)
11:40 <@polerin> trust me, I know better than most
11:40 <@polerin> XD
11:40 <@SkyDog_> I have access to as many cameras as I want, and tons of hardware.
11:40 <@polerin> someninjamaster: are you officaly in chage?
11:40 <@polerin> charge even?
11:40 <@someninjamaster> im bringing in help this year that wont be in bed befor cleanup
11:40 <@someninjamaster> i guess i am
11:40 <@someninjamaster> unless someone else wants to take over
11:40 <@polerin> see that's a bad thing.  there needs to be no guessing.  Doing this by committee will fry it
11:41 <@polerin> hehe
11:41 <@SkyDog_> I'm doing oversight, but Someninja is riding herd.
11:41 <@MudFlap> I'll help if you can tell me what to do.
11:41 <@SkyDog_> Mudflap! you're in.
11:41 <@SkyDog_> flap's got good skillz.
11:41 <@ladymerlin> aww i needed mudflap for the desk :P
11:41 <@polerin> I know I was an ass when I was in charge, but sometimes you have to be
11:41 <@Dolemite> MudFlap : Just keep the camera pointed at the person presenting ;)
11:41 <@SkyDog_> Depends on teh crew.
11:41 <@MudFlap> Working for someninjamaster!
11:42 <@SkyDog_> I am gonna get some fluid head tripods for this year.
11:42 <@polerin> SkyDog_: in a throw togeather crew where you've limited time?  yeahhh.
11:42 <@someninjamaster> cool
11:42 <@someninjamaster> id like to have a crew big enough that we can rotate out
11:42 <@SkyDog_> That is the key.
11:42 <@SkyDog_> You two were toasted by sat night.
11:42 <@polerin> yeah
11:43 <@someninjamaster> i was
11:43 <@polerin> you need to let at least one person rotate out per talk
11:43 <@someninjamaster> i think the two camera setup we had worked really well last year
11:43 <@SkyDog_> Well, Volunteers are hard to come by.
11:43 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: i'll walk around and act like i'm not doing anything.  then I will actually not do anything
11:43 <@SkyDog_> Yeah.
11:43 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Bet.
11:43 <@someninjamaster> one catching wide one catching close up
11:44 <@polerin> it's not just vounteers, it's people that are trustworthy and willing to come back
11:44 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Yeah, and I have a extron VGA adapter we can try.
11:44 <@polerin> you can't have a herd of cats, you've got to have a crew
11:44 <@SkyDog_> polerin: true.
11:44 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : At least you have follow through.  We'll give you that much.
11:44 <@Evilpig> can someone tell Dementia that the full male frontal is NOT necessary in all these new comedies?  bring back the boobs!
11:45 <@someninjamaster> the good thing is stinky steve knows as much about av as i do
11:45 <@SkyDog_> I'm all for the boobs.
11:45 <@someninjamaster> we helped build and run the studio we built for da
11:46 <@someninjamaster> time for lunch
11:46 <@someninjamaster> back in 1
11:46 <@someninjamaster> 10
11:47 <@Dolemite> ~weather 37211
11:47 <+MxZBot> It's Mostly Cloudy in Haywood Hills, Nashville, Tennessee. It's 73.5 F (62 M, 23 C, 296 K).  Wind to the WNW at 3.0Mph/4.8Kph.
11:47 <@poiupoiu> someninjamaster, i'd be interested in helping out with AV
11:47 <@Dementia> Boobs are fine, I just want something for everybody
11:47  * polerin blinks
11:48 <@poiupoiu> unfortunately, i don't really have a whole lot of experience in a whole lot of av
11:48 <@Dementia> Piggie can't stand seeing peeeeenis.
11:48 <@poiupoiu> and stinky steve?
11:51 <@SkyDog_> Stinky steve. Good fella.
11:51 <@SkyDog_> That makes 4 signed up. Cool.
11:52 <@SkyDog_> poiupoiu: It's not that bad, once it's setup and running.
11:52 <@SkyDog_> Jst an issue of timing and changing camera angles.
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11:52 <@Dolemite> I will be manning the beer fridge
11:52 <@SkyDog_> Beer Fridgologist.
11:52 <@Dolemite> I am bringing my kegerator again this year
11:52 <@SkyDog_> Woof!
11:52 <@MudFlap> hear hear!
11:52 <@SkyDog_> I will be... what will I be doing?
11:52 <@Dolemite> hopefully I will have made some progress on the electronic geegaws attached to it
11:52 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Running around like a head with its chicken cut off
11:53 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: NOT!
11:53 <@SkyDog_> I intend to relax as much as possible.
11:53 <@Evilpig> haha intentions.
11:53 <@SkyDog_> I think you set us up with a great system. Alot less stress than previous years.
11:54 <@Dolemite> At this point the directors are getting experienced enough to run on cruise control pretty well
11:54 <@SkyDog_> I will be partaking some beer if you deem me worthy.
11:54 <@Dolemite> I will have at least 2 flavors of beer and an apfelwein.  At least, that's my intention to start with.  Then again, the pumpkin ale was gone early into Friday.
11:55 <@Evilpig> http://tinyurl.com/4ymd44  <-- no predidential badge this year.  he gets a special outfit
11:55 <@Dolemite> But I will be working on a presentation on home brew
11:55 <@rattle> Nelson Mandela is on the terrorist watch list.  My lord, DoS is so completely fucked.
11:55 <@Dolemite> speaking of which, how was the one down at Outerz0ne?
11:55  * poiupoiu can see SkyDog_ inside his hotel room with a punching bag, preparing for rematches
11:56 <@SkyDog_> it was ok...
11:57 <@SkyDog_> DING DING! Round one.
11:57 <@SkyDog_> Sigh.
11:57 <@SkyDog_> My plan this year is to NOT knock someone out, NOT to stress, and NOT to drink too much.
11:58 <@SkyDog_> If I mess up one, please let it be number three.
11:58  * ladymerlin hand skydog a skydog to get started early
11:58 <@Evilpig> how can you be overstressed if you are dressed as a cock?
11:58 <@SkyDog_> Pardon?
11:58 <@SkyDog_> did I get too drunk last year?
11:58 <@ladymerlin> nope
11:58 < Curbob> what I thought was funny was them writting it in C+ and then a couple days later my boss telling me a story of COBOL programmers writting stuff (information and regular day steps) in code so others from other countries could understand it
11:59 <@oddball> sigh... that's the second email I've recieved from the same woman having problems calling numbers that aren't in service.
11:59 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: if you don't remember the pictures being taken, you were too drunk... ;-)
12:00 < Curbob> Oddball: When I lived in NC the area code was 919 and with dialing 9 to get out of the company and 1 for longdistance we had a 911 call at least once a day
12:01 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Well, I'd like to see them at least...
12:01 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: no, you really don't
12:01 <@Evilpig> nice pearl necklace you were wearing though
12:01 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: You wish.
12:02 <@SkyDog_> Although, that might explain the rash around my neck...
12:04 <@Dolemite> heh, I actually had someone send in another wifi hotspot for that Nashville 2600 map mashup that I did
12:04 <@Evilpig> I am having too much fun with this annoy.bat I made.  just popped http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blumpkin up on my "manager's" computer
12:04 <@SkyDog_> That's cool.
12:04 <@Dolemite> we really should make that a little local project to enter more of the public hot spots
12:06 <@Dolemite> Though I think his lat/long coordinates that he supplied are a bit off
12:06 <@SkyDog_> Hmm.
12:07 <@Dolemite> yeah, the marker is nowhere near Stewarts Ferry Pike
12:07 < Curbob> http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/04/murdoch
12:07 <@SkyDog_> Could be one of the hotels.
12:07 <@Dolemite> No, it's showing up in a subdivision
12:07 <@SkyDog_> Heh. PWNED!
12:07 <@Dolemite> not far from your old hizzy
12:09 <@Dolemite> ok, now it's fixed
12:09 <@SkyDog_> Heh. I took the AP when I left. :)
12:09 <@Dolemite> or at least closer to believable
12:10 <@Dolemite> he had transposed two digits in the latitude
12:10 <@Dolemite> it's right across from the Middle TN Mental Health Hospital
12:10 <@Dolemite> I'm sure that will come in handy for much of this crowd
12:15 < AstralSin> ugh jesus christ, don't eat a whole steakhouse burger from BK, you'll feel like you got ran over by an ass truck
12:18 <@polerin> AstralSin: heh, you've never seen one of the burgers I used to eat did you :P
12:19 < AstralSin> obviously not
12:20 <@polerin> hehe
12:20 <@polerin> tripple add three patties double cheese
12:20 <@polerin> I used to bring entire shifts to the window to see who the hell was ordering that monstrosity ;)
12:20 < AstralSin> hah
12:20 < AstralSin> god damn
12:20 <@oddball> AstralSin: pansey
12:21 <@polerin> hahahaha
12:21 < AstralSin> i don't normally eat fast food, for this very reason
12:21 <@polerin> I can't eat like that any more
12:21 <@polerin> :/
12:21 <@polerin> too many skipped meals
12:21 <@oddball> hmmm.... I might have to hit the wendy's around the corner and get a baconator
12:21 < AstralSin> anyway, off topic i wanna build one of these http://virtuafighter.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/200070/fpart/1
12:21 <@polerin> my appitite/metabolism is down
12:34 < Curbob> AstralSin: that's sweet!
12:39 <@someninjamaster> im back
12:48 < AstralSin> Curbob: i've already got a system for a mame cabinet setup, it boots into Wah!Cade which is a frontend that lets you choose from all your games, i've got a control panel built but not finished, i gotta cut out the holes for my buttons and joysticks, then i gotta mount and wire them
12:49 <@critch> umm, damn, some guys just know way to many ways to handle balls(juggling and basketball), http://www.snotr.com/embed/612
12:49 < AstralSin> not a cabinet yet but the way i built my control box, i can build a cabinet around it so the box will just fit down into the cabinet that way it can be semi-portable
12:50 < Curbob> i've got the controller and buttons all wired and mounted to a box :) just need to build my cabinet, i finally have a garage and tools to do it
12:51 < Curbob> but built that like 5 years ago, i know my rom dvds are way out dated
12:54 < AstralSin> ive got over 6000 roms :)
12:54 < AstralSin> of course,there's a bunch of duplicates
12:54 < AstralSin> i'd say i've prolly got 3-4k unique games
12:55 < Curbob> not sure if they do it anymore but they use to have a network of people that would send you dvds with all the roms on them, you paid for the blank dvd's if they "happen" to have some sort of data on them it s a plus ;)
12:56 < Curbob> yeh i had about 3k, didnt grab all the ones that were like a gig (some special games, not sure what they were)
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13:06 <@aestetix> It seems that Zuckerberg is getting better at doing interviews.
13:12 <@critch> AstralSin: you need to build this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2W7JX5D1Qs
13:15 < Curbob> i think that's just a reason to hold hands!
13:19 <@polerin> DAMN this is a good curry. not spicey enough, but very well cooked
13:19 <@polerin> resturant in the boro, can't remeber what it's name is now..will find out tomoorow
13:36 <@Dementia> polerin: if you ever make it up this way I need to take you to Taj Mahal in Lakewood :)
13:49 < AstralSin> critch: something like that would be destined to cause fist fights
13:51 <@polerin> awesome
13:51 <@polerin> Would love too
13:51 <@polerin> in otehr news http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/02/us/01cnd-port.html?hp
13:51 <@polerin> holy HELL... we actually had an effective MayDay strike
14:01 <@dc0de> who was striking?
14:16 <@polerin> dockworkers
14:16 <@polerin> in protest of the war
14:16  * dc0de didn't notice... guess it wasn't "that" effective.
14:16 <@polerin> it's mayday today
14:16 <@polerin> heh
14:17 <@polerin> plus, the media is biased against reporting this kind of thing
14:17 <@dc0de> which war? the war on drugs? the war on civil liberties? the war on terrorism? the war on child pornography?
14:17 <@polerin> heh
14:17 <@polerin> iraq
14:17 <@dc0de> polerin; I know it's "May Day", it's my birthday.
14:21 <@polerin> I'm just saying, it just happened today, and most mainstream outlets dont' report strikes like this, much less as it's going on
14:21 <@polerin> I meen what was the last time you heard about a UNITE! strike or the Immolokee farm workers? :P
14:21 < ware> RAWWWWRRRR!
14:23  * coil slaps around around a bit with a large trout
14:23 <+coil> ware*
14:43 <@Dolemite> Heh, Gary Coleman and his wife are on Divorce Court today
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14:46 < AstralSin> gary coleman is married?
14:47 <@Dolemite> yeah, he got married to a 24 year old redhead
14:48 <@Dolemite> it's obviously a publicity stunt
14:48 <@brimstone> he married a white woman?
14:48 <@Dolemite> yep
14:48 <@brimstone> good for him!
14:50 <@polerin> ...
14:50  * polerin headdesks
14:56  * coil picks up polerin's head
14:59 <@Neoteric> bitch has fucked up teeth: http://www.hiphop-elements.com/img/5008/148415999148129b3ba214c.jpg
15:08 < AstralSin> ewwwww
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16:12 < ware> anyone here use suse as a desktop workstation
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16:21 <+coil> no
16:23 <+coil> http://completeall.com/pictures/computer-hygiene/4.jpg
16:25 <+coil> sfgw
16:28 < AstralSin> great, a company called Cyberdyne is producing robotic exoskeletons
16:29 < AstralSin> hasn't fiction covered the dangers of humanoid robots?
16:30 < AstralSin> http://www.botjunkie.com/2008/04/17/cyberdyne-building-factory-to-construct-consumer-power-exoskeletons/
16:30 < AstralSin> they do look cool though
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16:45  * brimstone feels the pain of everyone
16:45  * brimstone now feels nothing
16:45  * coil pokes brimstone 
16:45  * Evilpig kicks brimstone in the nuts
16:45 <@brimstone> hi coil
16:46 <@brimstone> hey now, i didn't abuse grammar...
16:51 < ware> opensuse ftw
16:53 <+coil> YES WE KNOW WAER STFU
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17:44 < R3d2Daw1> hobbes615: have you ever gone by hobbzey?
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17:54 <@hobbes615> newp
17:54 < eryc> hobbes615: what about analuvr69?
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18:34 <+coil> I GOT SOME PATRON
18:34 < yarg1> i got a lime
18:34 < yarg1> maybe we can make this work
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18:46 <@sdodson> bounce bounce
18:47 < eryc> leroy!!!
18:47 <@sdodson> eryc: sup my homie?
18:50 < eryc> wassup
18:50 < eryc> im checking out this cmake.org thing
18:51 < eryc> did you ever map your luns?
18:51 <@sdodson> brimstone: little dinasaur?
18:51 <@sdodson> no, waiting on finance to buy my shizzle
18:51 < eryc> from the little research ive done since i think 1 lun per VM is optimal
18:51 < eryc> 4 or 8 gig with 512-768m per vm
18:52 < eryc> that allows you to fine tune your available resources
18:53 <@sdodson> ya, long as you don't run up against some silly limit like 255luns or something
18:55 <@sdodson> man, i'm trying to resist the urge to hate on dc0de
18:55 < eryc> http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/FAQ_41_2315.shtm
18:55 <@sdodson> i hate black berry wankers "please excuse the fact that I suck, I'm on a black berry"
18:55 < eryc> The maximum SCSI luns setting for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 2.1 is 128.
18:55 < eryc> You can change this on your system by adding the scsi_mod max_scsi_luns=128 option to the modules.conf file and rebuilding the initrd image.
18:56 <@sdodson> lulz, RHEL 2.1!
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18:56 <@sdodson> ya, as long as it's 512 or more I'm cool
18:56 < eryc> looks like the newer sans do at least 1024
18:57 < eryc> i think you'll get your 512
18:57 <@sdodson> ya, it's not a limit of rhel that i'm worried aboot so much as the hba and or san
18:58 <@sdodson> kbase is hopefully going to get better
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18:59 <@ShadowHntr> microsoft sure knows how to party :)
19:00 <@sdodson> we party too!
19:00 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: yes, we do.
19:00 <@ShadowHntr> :D
19:00 < AstralSin> i bet microsoft parties are the lamest, most boring parties on the planet
19:01 <@sdodson> weeeeeee not yoooooou
19:01 <@ShadowHntr> heh.
19:01 < AstralSin> until ballmer shows up with a bottle of tequila and an angry look in his eye
19:04 <+coil> i got patron
19:05 < AstralSin> i have early times
19:08 < eryc> i dunno
19:08 < eryc> microsoft seems to have their shit together
19:09 < eryc> its probably fun
19:09 < AstralSin> hah
19:09 < AstralSin> yeah, they compiled all their  bowel movements together and called it vista
19:09 <@sasquatc4> its a bunch of young people, besides the lack of women, its prolly a pretty drunken time
19:10 < AstralSin> i think there are people i would rather party with
19:10 <@sdodson> i kid, i kid
19:10 <@sdodson> AstralSin: why are you such a positive guy?
19:10 < eryc> microsoft has a really nice campus here
19:11 < eryc> i wouldnt hate
19:11 < AstralSin> sdodson: i dunno, just comes naturally
19:12 <@sdodson> in california?
19:12 <@sdodson> eryc: is bay aera the shizzle?
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19:41 < eryc> sdodson: its kinda overrated i think
19:42 < eryc> its really nice until you have to live here
19:42 <@sdodson> co-worker tells me it's the awesome
19:43 < eryc> has he lived here?
19:43 <@sdodson> all their life
19:44 < eryc> cool
19:44 < eryc> see when i moved here i thought it was the awesome
19:44 < eryc> then at some point i developed a new sense of awesome, and its not found here
19:44 <@brimstone> that's true of a lot of places
19:45 <@brimstone> if not all of them
19:47  * sdodson wonders if the lists are slow
19:47 < eryc> i can tell you the weather is still awesome
19:47 <@sdodson> Move back to NYC?
19:48 < eryc> i am actually moving from here in 3 months
19:49 < eryc> http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx
19:50 <@sdodson> eryc: where to?
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20:14 < dyslexix> hey doods i have to pay sum dos can one yews help so i can due it i need sum moneys
20:14 < dyslexix> lol@haha
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20:38 < eryc> Clarification!
20:38 < eryc> that was an entertaining thread
20:38 < eryc> lawl
20:39 < eryc> i think lawl is the sound ware makes when hes going deep
20:40 <@sdodson> i keep trying to make a joke about your small dick size but it always comes out wrong
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20:42 < AstralSin> well, quit pullin it out
20:44 <@Stefanie_TN> Speaking of which, who's baking the cake for tomorrow night's meeting?
20:48 < AstralSin> oh shit, i totally forgot about the meeting
20:48 < AstralSin> i'll make it one of these days, i swear
20:49 <@Stefanie_TN> Corydon baked a cake for Nashville 2600 last month.
20:50 < AstralSin> cool
20:50 < AstralSin> shit, i should really come tomorrow, i won't be able to in June, i'll be at Hacker Halted
20:51 <@Stefanie_TN> We've had an increase in attendance for the past few meetings.
20:51 < AstralSin> who's the speaker tomorrow?
20:52 <@Stefanie_TN> It might be the one from the A.G.'s office who was supposed to be there last time. I'm not sure, though.
20:53 < AstralSin> ah
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21:28 <@nachoguy> hacker halted?
21:29 <@dasunt> Hmmmm.'
21:31 <@nachoguy> oh, southern Carolina
21:32 <@nachoguy> I have to say, the logo at the bottom is rather dippy looking
21:33 < AstralSin> yeah
21:34 < AstralSin> i hope its not gonna be lame, but i'll be getting my licensed penetration tester title there (i think)
21:34 < AstralSin> or at least the training for it
21:34 < AstralSin> and a free trip to SC :)
21:34 <@nachoguy> make sure you get that on a T shirt "licensed penetration tester"
21:34 < AstralSin> oh you know it
21:34 < AstralSin> i'm gonna use that as a pickup line while i'm down there
21:36 <@nachoguy> yeah, I'm sure no one there has ever heard that line before.  =>
21:37 < AstralSin> hell, i'm not gonna use it on the attendees, i was gonna hit a bar
21:38 < AstralSin> i kinda doubt there will be any attendees that i'd want to use it on
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22:17 <@brimstone> :(
22:18  * brimstone bronxes sdodson
22:19 <@sdodson> man i'm tired
22:19 <+coil> boxers?
22:19 <+coil> sdodson: c'mon
22:19 <@polerin> fuckin A
22:19 <@polerin> I got it.
22:23 <+coil> AIDS?
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22:26 <@sdodson> "They've figured out a way to power light aircraft using only the condensed ire of militant slackware users."
22:26 < AstralSin> hah
22:27 <@polerin> cute coil, cute.
22:27 <@polerin> no, the job
22:27 <@polerin> ass, you read that in the other channel
22:29 <@someninjamaster> haha sdodson
22:34 <@sdodson> "a non-trivial amount of free software users claim they care about "Free as in speech" but really want "Free as in can I crash on your couch?"
22:34 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: what are we going to do now, when we need Comcrap help?
22:36 <@polerin> call customer service?
22:36 <@polerin> :D
22:36 <@someninjamaster> wow your leaving comcast
22:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Like I said, what are we going to do now, when we need Comcrap help?
22:36 <@polerin> hehe
22:37  * someninjamaster goes to read scroll back
22:37 <@sdodson> someninjamaster: you're as bad as Shadow404
22:38 <@someninjaserver> i know
22:38 <@someninjaserver> i missed out on this when i had my macbook pro totally disasembled
22:39 <@sdodson> i meant with your use of your
22:39 < eryc> i hate the word
22:40 <@polerin> actually you didn't miss much, I just announced it
22:40 < eryc> its really annoying to distinguish the two when typing
22:40 <@polerin> got a coding gig
22:40 <@polerin> :D
22:40 <@sdodson> polerin: congrats
22:40 <@sdodson> php!
22:40 <@sdodson> ?
22:40 <@someninjaserver> pcp ftw
22:40 <@someninjaserver> oh wait
22:40 <@someninjaserver> php
22:41 < eryc> once i type, y-o-u my finger is trained to be at the r key
22:41 <@sdodson> whacky
22:41 < eryc> not really
22:41 < eryc> i just hit backspace and move on
22:44 <+coil> polerin: sry
22:44 <+coil> people use that joke on me
22:44 <+coil> so i have tgo pass it on
22:49 <@polerin> no, no you don't :P
22:49  * coil gives polerin aids
22:49 <@polerin> sdodson: yeah CakePHP to be specific
22:49  * polerin kills coil deader.
22:50  * coil comes back alive as a zombie
22:50  * coil bites polerin 
22:57 <@SkyDog_> Evening all.
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23:18 <@brimstone> ug, what's the make/configure option to append a directory to search for header files?
23:19 <@brimstone> i thought it was -I
23:21 <@sasquatc4> yea, it is
23:21 <+coil> -l/directory
23:21 <+coil> ???
23:22 <+coil> I
23:22 <+coil> sry they look the same on my client
23:22 <+coil> --I/dir/
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23:28 <@brookshire> brimstone: you up?
23:28 <@brimstone> werd
23:28 <@brimstone> WEUP U UP?
23:29 <@brookshire> i crashed ast.org
23:29 <@brookshire> hehe
23:29 <@brimstone> way2go
23:29 <@brookshire> yah.. epic FAIL on an apache reload
23:29 <@brimstone> boo
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23:31 < R3d2Daw1> Did anyone go to the MS Heroes Happen Here?
23:36 <@mtown_nerd> No.  But I did introduce my entire team at my relatively new job to the Steve Ballmer "Developers" Dance REmix
23:36 <@mtown_nerd> *today
23:36 <@mtown_nerd> :)
23:51 <@polerin> oh hells yeah, I got the agreement.  It's got a new ideas clause, but that's not supprising for a develpment firm
23:51 <@polerin> I'm hoping he'll let me do some OSS work too
23:52 <@polerin> dood, I'm totaly putting my two week notice in tomorrow
23:52 <@polerin> heeeelllzz yeahhhh
23:52 <@polerin> :D
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