--- Log opened Wed Apr 30 00:00:55 2008 00:02 <@dasunt> http://www.ursine.ca/~dasunt/winerr.png 00:02 <@Mirage> old AMD Thunderbird 1200 on an ABiT board. HDD was a Maxtor 120gb and the P/S was an Antec 00:03 <@dasunt> Maxtors do suck. 00:03 <@dasunt> Haven't seen one destroy a power supply though. 00:03 <@Mirage> Yeah..but I've never had one blow a control board so badly that it nuked the machine too 00:04 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: you still here? 00:07 <@Dagmar> For the record, I've not had a HD fail like that, but I've had a floppy drive that destroyed IDE controllers it was plugged into. 00:07 <@Dagmar> I can feel Mirage's pain 00:08 <@Mirage> well, the firewall is totally rebuilt now..so no huge loss 00:10 <@Mirage> I always hate when I forget something really simple and get irritated trying to figure it out..like enabling IP forwarding 00:11 <@Mirage> Oh, well..bedtime 00:47 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@24-158-189-106.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:49 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 01:06 < aestetix> it is time for happy hardcore 01:14 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:51 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:08 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 04:12 <+coil> that shit is lame 05:03 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 05:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 06:05 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["someone closed something..."] 06:26 <@ladymerlin> whee 06:58 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@24-158-189-106.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 07:00 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:07 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@vnhlil-l10-258.dsl.tds.net] has joined #se2600 07:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 07:21 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@24-158-189-106.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["WeeChat 0.2.6"] 07:21 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@24-158-189-106.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 07:54 -!- Curbob [n=curbob@216.79.143.72] has joined #se2600 07:54 < ware> *yawn* 08:07 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:07 * Curbob looks around, oh that's me! 08:10 <@Dolemite> Nice. Microsoft sends me a link to a new development platform update... and here's what you get 08:10 <@Dolemite> http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=8266091 08:10 <@Dolemite> oh, never mind, it worked that time 08:10 <@Dolemite> first time it bombed with a SQL Server error. heh. 08:10 <@Dolemite> I thought that was a bit ironic. 08:11 < Curbob> I sat through 5+ hours of how great MS is yesterday, but got VS2008 standard, sql2008, server2008 and vista ultimate free 08:11 <@Dolemite> nice 08:11 < Curbob> not sure if it was worth it :) 08:11 < Curbob> and work paid for it 08:12 <@Dolemite> heh 08:12 <@Dolemite> I am going to download the Visual Web Developer 2008 Express Edition and check it out 08:12 <@Dolemite> HTML design is one thing I abhor 08:12 <@Dolemite> yet I write lots of utilities that are web based 08:13 <@Dolemite> I like doing the back end work, but when it comes to making the visual elements work, I miss Visual Basic. heh. 08:14 < Curbob> couple nice things, you can set breaks in javascript now, intellesence knows javascript and sql statements and you can tell it the version of asp to compile with 2.0, 3.0 or 3.5 08:14 < Curbob> oh and split screen for code and design mode (woohoo lol) 08:15 < Curbob> i've now passed on all I learned yesterday, have fun grasshopper 08:18 -!- omegix [i=84e4c3cf@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c04e77ea24646f4d] has joined #se2600 08:18 -!- omegix [i=84e4c3cf@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-c04e77ea24646f4d] has left #se2600 [] 08:19 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 08:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 08:24 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 08:48 < poiupoiu> mornin all 08:48 < dmcmorris_esi> mornin' 08:50 <@Dolemite> ok, that was a waste of time 08:50 * poiupoiu still has the best feelin' of all semester 08:50 < poiupoiu> the "finals are over, my semester is over" feelin' 08:50 <@Dolemite> MS's new Visual Web Developer doesn't support plain HTML design 08:51 < Curbob> hahaha crap! 08:51 <@Dolemite> It's pretty much a bloatware factory 08:51 < poiupoiu> of course not - it supports MS's propritary version of HTML which only works on vista machines with IE 08:51 < poiupoiu> but it's "enhanced" 08:52 < Curbob> probably they want you to use the essencials software they have to replace frontpage 09:03 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:03 <@nachoguy> I thionk I saw the offspring of a Dolemite + Skydog hookup thismorning 09:04 <@brimstone> anywone setup samba as a pdc before? i'm stuck trying to get the xp client to join the domain 09:15 < poiupoiu> mornin nachoguy 09:16 <@nachoguy> brimstone, I've done it a few times 09:16 <@nachoguy> what's the issue you're having? 09:17 <@brimstone> the xp client is able to lookup _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.domain but then it makes a udp 389 packet and fails 09:18 <@brimstone> this is a stock xp client, so there might be something i have to change on the client to support the older pdc style controller 09:18 <@nachoguy> why is it doing ldap lookups? 09:19 <@brimstone> i think because it's trying to connect to an Active Directory domain and not a NT4 style domain 09:20 <@nachoguy> ah. well, two questions, are you running nmbd on the linux machine, and does the windows machine see the domain at all while browsing the network? 09:21 <@brimstone> nmbd is running, but i don't see the domain it seems... 09:22 <@Dolemite> don't forget that you have to create the domain account for any clients 09:22 <@brimstone> Dolemite: for the actual machines right? 09:22 <@Dolemite> yes 09:22 <@brimstone> right 09:22 <@Dolemite> each machine has to have their key generated 09:23 <@nachoguy> can you connect to a share on the samba machine either // // or // 09:23 <@brimstone> nachoguy: \\dnsname works 09:23 <@brimstone> and \\smbname works 09:24 <@nachoguy> yeah, you'll need to useradd "workstation$" and them smbpass -ma (I think) workstation 09:24 <@nachoguy> very important to have the dollar sign for the posix account and to not have it for the smb account 09:24 <@brimstone> that wouldn't affect the client from seeing the domain would it? 09:25 <@nachoguy> negatory 09:25 <@nachoguy> just something else to look at when trying to join the worstation to a domain 09:25 <@brimstone> and i thought samba could add the machine with the smbldap-tools scripts 09:25 <@nachoguy> it catches a lot of people 09:25 <@nachoguy> oh, you're doing smbldap? 09:25 <@nachoguy> yeah, I think those scripts do it 09:25 <@brimstone> yeah, SURPRISE! heh 09:26 <@nachoguy> uh, in that case, do you have the domain definition in your ldap server? 09:26 <@brimstone> yes? 09:27 <@nachoguy> check the sid in the ldap record against what your machine thinks it is 09:27 <@brimstone> there's a sambaDomainName=DOMAIN in ldap 09:27 <@nachoguy> good 09:27 <@nachoguy> check the SID in there 09:28 <@brimstone> the sid is the same 09:28 <@nachoguy> cool 09:28 <@nachoguy> I suppose that there's nothing good in the log.smbd and log.nmbd 09:28 <@brimstone> as usual 09:29 <@nachoguy> well, I've seen log.nmbd detail all sorts of good shit, esp fights over being master browser 09:29 <@nachoguy> can your windows box tell you who the master browser for the network is? 09:29 <@brimstone> if i knew how to ask 09:30 <@brimstone> log.nmbd says it won the election for the workgroup DOMAIN 09:34 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has joined #se2600 09:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 09:35 <@nachoguy> that sounds good 09:35 <@nachoguy> can you do \\DOMAIN ? 09:35 <@brimstone> yes 09:36 <@brimstone> prompts for password etc 09:36 <@nachoguy> well, that's good, I guess 09:36 <@nachoguy> I wasn't aware that it would prompt for password just to browse a domain 09:37 <@brimstone> the name of the machine is the same as the domain, so i guess it's trying to browse the machine 09:38 * brimstone guesses that needs to change 09:41 <@nachoguy> that might be an issue 09:41 <@nachoguy> not sure 09:44 <@brimstone> yeah, i got this working with the name being the same before 09:47 <@nachoguy> ok 09:47 <@nachoguy> well, when you try to join the domain with the workstation, what sort of error do you get in the logs? 09:48 <@brimstone> nothing, the xp client never hits the samba server 09:48 <@brimstone> the xp client bitches about finding _ldap._tcp.dc._msdcs.DOMAIN but the server that's there is stupid 09:49 < dmcmorris_esi> bleh... Active Directory and their freakin' SVR records.... 09:51 <@nachoguy> is there an active directory domain on the same network? 09:51 <@brimstone> there is, the "old" domain 09:51 <@brimstone> but this is a different domain 09:54 <@nachoguy> http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/tamir/archive/2008/04/28/computer-languages-and-facial-hair-take-two.aspx 09:54 <@nachoguy> sure, but it might be interfering 09:54 <@nachoguy> also, is this a brand new build on the windows box? 09:54 <@nachoguy> or was it previously on the AD domain 09:54 <@brimstone> it's a fresh xpsp3 box 09:54 <@brimstone> not on the domain ever 09:54 <@nachoguy> ok 09:56 < aestetix> ok 09:56 < aestetix> here's a doosey 09:56 < aestetix> selecting data from the sql database. I can echo it just fine. I can assign it to a var, and echo the var just fine. 09:57 < aestetix> gettype() returns NULL, and I can't do a substring on it 09:57 <@nachoguy> Brimstone, can you put the samba server and the xp machine on a switch not connected to anything else? 09:58 <@brimstone> yup 09:58 <@brimstone> i debated doing that today anyway 10:00 <@nachoguy> might at least prove/disprove interferance from the AD domain 10:02 < aestetix> I mean, can a NULL contain a value? 10:02 < aestetix> to me that defeats the purpose of NULL 10:04 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: suggest to him to use isnull() on it 10:05 < aestetix> I just did. 10:05 < aestetix> And it returned 1. 10:05 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 10:06 < aestetix> Can a NULL contain a value? 10:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, so the field is typeless 10:06 <@Corydon76-dig> nope 10:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Generally typeless means the field is a calculated or summary field 10:06 < aestetix> right 10:06 < aestetix> I tried setting a type 10:07 <@Corydon76-dig> You could also try casting it to a type 10:09 < aestetix> Nope. 10:12 < aestetix> figured it out 10:13 < aestetix> It was a problem with the function a coworker wrote. 10:13 < aestetix> $variable = function(data) 10:13 < aestetix> I dug into function(data) 10:14 < aestetix> turns out it was echoing the result, not returning it 10:14 < aestetix> so when I tried to assign it to $variable, it echoed it and made it look right, but then assigned nothing to $variable 10:16 -!- juice [n=juice@doc-72-47-33-60.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:18 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@vnhlil-l10-258.dsl.tds.net] has quit ["At least I didn't have to invent 26 dimensions to get the math to work."] 10:31 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:33 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has joined #se2600 10:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 10:37 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@24-158-189-106.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["WeeChat 0.2.6"] 10:40 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 10:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 10:40 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@24-158-189-106.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 10:44 <@brimstone> nachoguy: well, i dunno if it was the full shutdown of all 3 systems or the AD server, but it's prompting for creds to the network now 10:44 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:50 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has joined #se2600 10:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 10:50 <@nachoguy> looking for Sarah Conner: http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/shape-shifting-robots-reassemble-themselves-video- 10:52 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:52 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has joined #se2600 10:55 <@Dementia> Corydon76-dig: happy birthday :) 10:57 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:58 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has joined #se2600 10:58 <@sdodson> hi 10:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 11:12 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 11:15 -!- Maxie1 [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 11:15 < dmcmorris_esi> anybody know what software this is? http://xkcd.com/416/ 11:16 <@brimstone> new ubuntu 11:16 <@brimstone> hold your mouse over the image 11:16 <@polerin> heh 11:16 < dmcmorris_esi> I meant the "zealous autoconfig" software ;) 11:17 < dmcmorris_esi> oh haha ;) 11:17 <@polerin> and brimstone meant hold the mouse over the image 11:17 <@polerin> :P 11:17 < dmcmorris_esi> yeah, I see now ;) 11:17 <@Dolemite> I still have to get wifi working on my laptop with ubuntu 8.04 11:17 <@Dolemite> it claims to see the device, but I can't connect to anything 11:17 < AstralSin> i had a couple problems with the upgrade to 8.04 11:18 < AstralSin> Dolemite: what chipset? did it use a restricted driver? 11:18 < AstralSin> or is it on a fresh install 11:18 * dmcmorris_esi now has to go through all 417 comics again to mouse over them :-/ 11:18 <@Dolemite> It's the broadcom a/b/g card 11:18 <@Dolemite> it's a fresh install 11:18 < AstralSin> oh 11:18 <@Dolemite> I just haven't fucked with it yet 11:18 <@Mirage> and the internal NetXtreme NIC as well 11:18 < AstralSin> i had problems because apt didn't update the restricted kernel drivers 11:18 <@Dolemite> I got the nvidia proprietary drivers going as that was my first priority 11:18 <@Dolemite> Mirage : Lunch? 11:18 < AstralSin> and pulseaudio doesn't work for me 11:19 <@Mirage> I used an old 3com for part of the install, then an old prismII wifi card for the rest 11:19 <@Mirage> Dolemite: when? 11:19 <@Dolemite> Mirage : now 11:19 < AstralSin> gdm is still fucked up, i can only see 1/4 of the screen, it gets rendered outside the bounds of my monitor 11:20 <@Mirage> Dolemite: sure. 11:22 <@nachoguy> I thought Mirage was no longer one of Dole's bitchez 11:23 <@Evilpig> once you sell your soul to the Dolemite you can never fully have it back 11:25 <@oddball> Hey, I escaped 11:27 <@polerin> Dolemite: radio 11:27 <@polerin> Dolemite: fucking broadcom drivers turn the radio off half the time 11:28 * polerin can't stand those cards. meh. 11:32 < AstralSin> atheros ftw 11:32 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:45 -!- aestetix [n=aestetix@md2600.org] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:47 -!- aestetix [n=aestetix@md2600.org] has joined #se2600 12:03 <@nachoguy> aestetix, have you ever been to/by charm city cakes? 12:05 <@Evilpig> meat cake 12:07 <@nachoguy> yes, pig, we know, you like the homoerotic-canabalistic thought of a mouthful of sausage 12:08 <@nachoguy> it's fine, you're among friends here 12:28 <@Evilpig> they made duff a meat cake one time. complete with a side of scrapple 12:29 -!- mtown_nerd [n=JHester@fileserver.ghruaim.net] has joined #se2600 12:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mtown_nerd] by ChanServ 12:34 < ware> so what do you do when you lose the only key you have to a 87 dodge truck 12:35 < ware> dodge dealership said they dont have the codes to make one 12:35 <@Feltenix> ask them to change the locks then 12:40 <@Neoteric> huh... the wikipedia entry on polarization is almost as good as the britannica version 12:41 <@critch> you kick self hard in the balls for getting to only one set of keys, especially if it has a chip in the key. 12:41 < aestetix> nachoguy: uh 12:41 < aestetix> no 12:45 < aestetix> man 12:45 < aestetix> There have been a lot of "parenting" articles on slashdot lately 12:45 < ware> critch: its a 87 12:46 <@Dagmar> ware: you contact any locksmith and see if they can re-key it for you. 12:46 <@Dagmar> This *can* be done. 12:46 <@critch> and that means what? 12:46 <@Dagmar> You can also buy a whole new set of locks. 12:46 <@critch> ware: do you know the key code for the truck? 12:46 <@Dagmar> Rekeying or having a locksmith craft a new key is cheaper 12:47 <@critch> Dagmar: that is unless it is a chipped key. 12:47 < ware> yeah locksmith said they can do it 12:47 < ware> but i have to get the truck over there 12:47 <@Dagmar> critch: It's a fucking truck, from 1987. 12:48 <@Dagmar> Gimme a fucking break. 12:48 <@Dagmar> It won't have a fucking chip key. 12:48 < ware> critch: whats a chipped key? 12:48 <@critch> My 88 grand am did 12:48 < ware> it was just a metal key 12:48 <@critch> okay 12:49 <@Dagmar> Your vehicle was far, far in the minority. 12:49 <@Dagmar> 1987 was while I was still in high school. There were damn few cars with anything other than a plain metal key then. 12:49 <@critch> but it was possible, and therefore needs to be thought of. 12:49 <@Dagmar> It's possible the car was radioactive, too. 12:49 <@Dagmar> THE ODDS ARE STUPIDLY SMALL. 12:49 <@critch> Mine probably was 12:49 <@Dagmar> You have been spending too much time listning to sdodson. 12:49 < AstralSin> ware: a new ignition costs less than $20, no big deal to replace it either 12:50 < AstralSin> not sure about door locks 12:50 <@critch> yeah, but I bet a mobile locksmith will be a close call for price and it will be done right. 12:51 < AstralSin> i've replaced ignitions myself, its easy, there's no way i'd call a locksmith for it, he's gonna charge you at least $30 just for coming to you 12:51 < AstralSin> but i'm a diy kind of guy 12:52 <@critch> I am too, but I don't always like messing with the steering column 12:52 <@Dagmar> I've had a door rekeyed rather recently. 12:52 <@Dagmar> A locksmith will be able to do it. 12:52 <@Dagmar> The dealership will want to just buy all new locks. 13:03 <@critch> hehe, just had to do a background interview for Manoj for a security clearance. 13:08 < poiupoiu> those security clearance forms are always fun to fill out 13:08 < poiupoiu> damn you SF-86!! 13:10 <@critch> Ohh, I didn't have to fill out any forms. Lady is here with badge doing interviews. 13:11 <@Dagmar> Wow 13:11 <@Dagmar> with as many people as he knows, that's going to take months 13:11 <@Dagmar> You didn't tell them about that plot to blot out the sun, did you? 13:13 <@Dagmar> Hmm... not response back yet from that vendor on eBay who has the 2200BG cards 13:13 <@Dagmar> I suppose I'll give him 24 hours to explain himself before I dispute this 13:14 <@critch> I forgot about Manoj knowing the 2600 group while being interviewed 13:17 < aestetix> uh 13:17 < aestetix> poiupoiu: have fun with that 13:19 < poiupoiu> yeah, i have an old copy on hand 13:19 < poiupoiu> you start learnin' to keep 'em handy after the 2nd time you have to fill one out 13:41 <@brimstone> nachoguy: you there? got another samba+ldap question if you have time 13:42 <@nachoguy> brimstone, what's up? 13:42 <@brimstone> trying to not put the manager dn in the samba server 13:43 <@brimstone> but i think i got it, found a hint on the gentoo wiki 13:43 <@nachoguy> you've got to give it a DN that has enough access to the right parts of the LDAP tree 13:43 <@brimstone> yeah, i need to figure out what parts that is 13:43 <@nachoguy> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Up-or-Out-Solving-the-IT-Turnover-Crisis.aspx 13:46 <@nachoguy> sambaNTPassword, sambaLMPassword, userPassword, shadowLastChange, DN for sambaDomainName=DOMAIN, the people tree, the workstations tree (if seperate from the people tree) 13:46 <@nachoguy> that's what ours appears to have access to at first glance 13:50 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 13:50 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 14:02 <@wontonjoe> hiya 14:25 <@brimstone> ug, crap 14:25 <@brimstone> can join the domain, but after reboot, the domain is not available 14:33 < aestetix> nachoguy: this article is really good 14:43 <@critch> well, FUCK!!! Just found out a good guy, and friend of mine just had a leg amputated. 14:44 <@Dementia> Shit, that's horrid 14:44 <@critch> Yep 14:44 <@Dementia> SOrry to hear 14:44 <@critch> Dude was already on a trike due to his leg injury from a wreck. He broke it again and ended up with an infection in the bone. 14:52 <@SkyDog_> brimstone: DHCP? can the workstation reliably talk to the server? 14:52 <@brimstone> yup, i can login as the normal user, remove then add the workstation to the domain, then reboot it, can't login 14:53 <@SkyDog_> Hmmm. 14:53 <@SkyDog_> normal user, or administrator? 14:54 <@brimstone> local admin, sorry 14:57 <@SkyDog_> Is DHCP listing the DNS server as internal to the network? 14:57 <@brimstone> i've not setup dns on my lab network yet 14:57 <@brimstone> so, there's no dns 14:58 <@SkyDog_> That's why it can't see the server. 14:58 <@SkyDog_> Add a line in /windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts 14:58 <@SkyDog_> add the IP of the server into the hosts file, with it's real name, and voila! 15:17 <@brimstone> nope, that didn't do it 15:17 <@brimstone> i just went and setup bind, fixed dhcpd for such 15:17 <@brimstone> i can ping the server by name, but no go :( 15:18 <@brimstone> and it's complaining about a dup name, which shouldn't be possible 15:18 <@SkyDog_> Interesting. 15:23 <@Dagmar> What's it saying, *exactly* 15:24 <@brimstone> "Dear brimstone, No" 15:24 <@Dolemite> more like, "Dear, Brimston. Fuck off and die." 15:24 <@brimstone> "The system cannot log you on now because the domain EXAMPLE is not available." 15:25 <@sdodson> don't hate! 15:25 <@sdodson> hey, anyone have a favorite log tool? like splunk? 15:26 <@brimstone> i'm trying not to, Mr. Eastern Daylight Time... 15:26 <@sdodson> EDT! EDT! 15:26 <@brimstone> grep&awk 4 LIFE 15:26 < poiupoiu> CST represent!! 15:26 <@brimstone> poiupoiu is living in the past 15:27 <@sdodson> brimstone: don't be silly 15:27 <@brimstone> that's how i roll' dods 15:27 <@SkyDog_> CST in the hizzouse. 15:28 <@Dagmar> GTA4 is so sweer 15:28 <@Dagmar> s/sweer/sweet/ 15:29 <@Dagmar> Kinda a bitch that to deal with one of the characters, you'd better be able to understand deep Rastafarian 15:29 <@SkyDog_> ire ire mon. 15:29 <@Dagmar> Oh no, this goes WAY beyond that 15:30 <@Dagmar> This dude has such an accent he's barely intelligible 15:31 <@Dagmar> By listening very closely, I managed to figure out that he wanted me to take him to a spot for a pickup with some weed dealers that he thought were shady and might be about to rip him off, but he coulnd't be sure because he smokes so much weed it messes with his head and he can't really trust his own thoughts. 15:31 <@Dagmar> He's one of THOSE kind of rastafarians 15:31 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: i just tried out FBSD 7. rather nice from what i've seen so far. 15:32 <@Dagmar> I dunno if that guy counts as a delivery and escort mission, or just plain babysitting 15:32 <@ShadowHntr> question - how do you default into an X environment, like runlevel 5 in Linux? 15:32 <@ShadowHntr> with gdm/xdm/whatever 15:32 <@Dagmar> Smoke leaks out the windows of your vehicle when you're doing a run with him. heh 15:32 <@brimstone> /etc/inittab 15:32 <@Dagmar> Yep 15:32 <@Dagmar> Generally that's just something that's set up in inittab 15:34 <@Dagmar> Skydog: It's so bad you can see that Nico (the character you play) is even doing a nod-n-smile a couple of times 15:35 <@brimstone> bjork frightens me a little 15:43 <@wontonjoe> why is it the accent? 15:43 -!- deoptima [n=Me@c-69-243-202-215.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o deoptima] by ChanServ 15:44 < poiupoiu> the swan dress? 15:45 * SkyDog_ nods and smiles. 15:46 <@Dolemite> Cool, we are starting a ZipCar program here in the summer/fall 15:47 <@nachoguy> neat 15:48 <@Dolemite> if only they'd do a ZipSegway program for us. heh. 15:48 <@Dolemite> I'd like to scoot around campus on one of those! 15:48 <@SkyDog_> Really? I wanna at least meet the people involved. 15:49 <@SkyDog_> Get a few for ITS... 15:49 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 15:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 15:49 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:49 -!- maverickbna is now known as ShadowHntr 15:51 <@Dolemite> ok, time to go pick up 2.0 15:51 <@Dolemite> later, kids! 15:58 <@Dagmar> So you have to wonder when the first DUI will happen in one of those cars 16:02 < R3d2Dawn> anyone play any MMORPG's 16:04 <@deoptima> unfortunatly i play WoW 16:04 <@Dagmar> I play e'm 16:04 <@Dagmar> Hell, I've played most of them at this point 16:05 <@Dagmar> EverQuest: "Go kill 20 rats." 16:05 < R3d2Dawn> I would like to see other MMORPG's due what Sony or what the makers of LOTRO are duing. Sony has one monthly subscription plan for all their games which is better than paying 14.99 per game and the makers of LOTRO well the have a lifetime membership price which is only $199, which is nice cause if you keep the game more than 2 yrs you have already payed over that amount 16:05 <@Dagmar> 2Moons: "My whore of a wife wants me to kill 20 fucking rats, but I'm going to make your bitch ass do it." 16:06 <@Dagmar> R3d2Dawn: Please use correct grammar and English. 16:06 <@Dagmar> I can't tell what the fuck you're asking. 16:06 < R3d2Dawn> I posted this up here a few days ago, but Stargate Worlds is getting ready to open up their beta 16:06 < R3d2Dawn> you can sign up for it now 16:07 <@Dagmar> So... what are you trying to figure out? 16:08 <@Dagmar> "I would like to see other MMORPG's due" <-- this does not make sense 16:09 <@Dagmar> I can tell you live in the US, so you can't claim "I'm romanian" 16:09 <@brimstone> I'm romanian 16:09 <@Dagmar> Make complete sentences and use the right words, or life for you will be very bad. 16:09 < poiupoiu> i'm romanian 16:09 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:11 -!- deoptima [n=Me@c-69-243-202-215.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )"] 16:12 < R3d2Dawn> Well, then I will start sending you my txt for correction then! So do you want me to privately IM you or email them too you for review 16:13 < R3d2Dawn> Oops! Wait maybe I should of sent that too you privately first for approval before sending....Damn...Shit...Fuck...well next time I will 16:13 <@Dagmar> No, I just want you to speak fucking English. 16:13 <@Dagmar> Here's a big fucking hint... 16:14 <@Dagmar> When you're asking someone for help or information, DON'T ACT LIKE A DICK. 16:14 <@SkyDog_> BOYS! Everyone sit down. Sheesh. 16:14 <@Dagmar> Go buy a fucking dictionary, or STFW and look up what "due" means. 16:14 <@Dagmar> Motherfucking ignorant bitches are destroying humanity 16:14 <@brimstone> hold on, i no what to due 16:15 < poiupoiu> what were yew thinking off brimstone ? 16:15 <@Dagmar> Either learn to speak and write on a sixth grade level, or get OFF THE FUCKING INTERNET. 16:15 -!- R3d2Dawn was kicked from #SE2600 by Dagmar [You don't need to be in a hacking channel, you need to be in third grade.] 16:16 * poiupoiu is done 16:16 * brimstone is laughing to hard two participate 16:16 <@SkyDog_> DUDE! He used the word 'due' incorrectly, and you kicked him. 16:16 <@SkyDog_> What the fuck? 16:16 <@brimstone> SkyDog_: stay of his lawn, man 16:16 <@Dagmar> His question didn't make sense, I asked him to clarify, nicely, and he acted like a disk. 16:16 <@SkyDog_> Holy fucking shit. 16:16 <@Dagmar> s/disk/dick/;l 16:17 <@Dagmar> So fuck that 16:17 <@Dagmar> T^his isn't a fucking day care center for idiots. 16:17 <@SkyDog_> man, you need to chill out a bit. 16:17 <@Dagmar> No, I need to be allowed to KILL people who campaign _for_ mediocrity and ignorance. 16:17 <@Dagmar> We should be using people like that as FOOD. 16:17 <@SkyDog_> No, nor is it a breeding ground for grammar nazis. 16:18 <@brimstone> SEIG HEIL! 16:18 <@Dagmar> This isn't a grammar nazi thing. 16:18 <@Dagmar> This is a _basic fucking literacy_ thing. 16:18 <@SkyDog_> so what if he used a word incorrectly. Man, you can't be an eliteist because you feel the world can't make an error. 16:19 <@Dagmar> This isn't about that. 16:19 <@brimstone> how can you stand WoW Dagmar? 16:19 <@Dagmar> One more time I'll say it 16:19 <@Dagmar> brimstone: Largely, I use the HELL out of the ignore list. 16:19 <@brimstone> irc has an ignore list 16:19 <@Dagmar> I don't *like* that he's functionally illterate 16:19 <@Neoteric> I suck so bad at nethack 16:19 <@SkyDog_> what the fuck is this about? 16:19 <@SkyDog_> the fact that he used 'due'? 16:20 <@Dagmar> ...but what I'm not going to tolerate is him being a DICK when I ask him nicely to explain what the fuck he was trying to say when he fucks up a key word in a way that makes his question incomprehensible. 16:20 <@Dagmar> Fuck a whoo-o-o-o-ole bunch of that 16:20 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I'll ask him to be more literate, if you'll fucking be a bit more tolerant. 16:21 <@Dagmar> I will *not* be "tolerant" of someone mouthing off to me because I don't speak idjit. 16:21 <@Dagmar> It's a non-survival trait to treat people who have learned something as if they were doing wrong, goddamn it. 16:21 <@SkyDog_> ok, then fuck you, you southern bred moron. 16:21 -!- Dagmar was kicked from #se2600 by SkyDog_ [cunt.] 16:21 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 16:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 16:21 <@brimstone> Dagmar: then don't help him 16:22 <@SkyDog_> yes, don't help him. 16:22 <@Dagmar> I didn't put up with that shit from those fucking hilbillies we went to high school with and I'm not going to put up with it now, either. 16:22 <@SkyDog_> then be a real cocksucker to everyone, and see how far that gets you man. 16:22 <@Dagmar> How about you just ask him to try harder to act as if he made it out of grade school, and not give people shit when he fails at it. 16:23 <@SkyDog_> how about you two meet in the middle, and get the fuck over it. 16:23 <@Dagmar> How about we start acting like achievement and skills matter instead of trying to build another community of morons on the interwebs 16:24 <@SkyDog_> man, we're not building a community of morons. This group is pretty tight. How about we don't build a community of fucking snobs. 16:24 <@SkyDog_> If you don't cut it in this group, you leave on your own. 16:24 <@SkyDog_> That's how it's worked. 16:24 <@Dagmar> You're calling me a snob because I expect people to behave as if they were actually raised by humans instead of wolves? 16:24 <@SkyDog_> it does not require your divine intervention. 16:25 <@SkyDog_> no, I think you're being an intolerant prick. 16:25 <@Dagmar> Oh, so this is just a bunch of fucking lamers now? 16:25 <@brimstone> SkyDog_: "divine intervention" nice 16:25 <@SkyDog_> that si what I am saying. 16:25 <@SkyDog_> no, we're not lamers. 16:25 <@Dagmar> We're going to be all gung ho about accepting people who are willfully ignorant? 16:25 <@SkyDog_> if you are calling everyone in this channel lamers, then fuck you. 16:25 <@Dagmar> We're going to celebrate the mediocre and rejoice in a complete lack of any sort of knowledge? 16:26 <@SkyDog_> so you're calling us mediocre? 16:26 <@brimstone> don't knock the mediocre, that's all some people got 16:26 <@SkyDog_> of calling him that? 16:26 <@Dagmar> You're calling me an intolerant prick because I kicked someone for being a knobgoblin... 16:26 <@SkyDog_> brimstone: Agreed. 16:26 <@Dagmar> The mediocre can fuck right off. 16:26 <@SkyDog_> no, you go on riffs on people for no real fuckign reason. 16:26 <@Dagmar> Scroll up, motherfucker. 16:26 <@SkyDog_> well, if I am a member of this group of mediocre knobgoblins, then I can fuck off too. 16:27 <@Dagmar> Well, then I will start sending you my txt for correction then! So 16:27 <@Dagmar> do you want me to privately IM you or email them too you for review 16:27 <@Dagmar> No, I just want you to speak fucking English. 16:27 <@Dagmar> Oops! Wait maybe I should of sent that too you privately first for 16:27 <@Dagmar> approval before sending....Damn...Shit...Fuck...well next time I 16:27 <@Dagmar> will 16:27 <@Dagmar> Was I just imagining this shit? 16:28 <@SkyDog_> DUDE! he made a spelling error, and you chewed his ass off! That is what I see when I scroll up! 16:28 <@Dagmar> Where'd I "chew his ass off"? 16:28 <@SkyDog_> he retorted with a quip becuase you went all nazi on him! 16:28 <@Dagmar> Quote me 16:28 <@Dagmar> Fucking quote it 16:28 <@SkyDog_> Make complete sentences and use the right words, or life for you will be very bad. 16:28 <@Dagmar> I was nice about it UNTIL he acted like a dick. 16:28 <@SkyDog_> Make complete sentences and use the right words, or life for you will be very bad. 16:28 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 16:28 <@brimstone> wb R3d2Dawn 16:29 <@Dagmar> skydog: So how is that ANYTHING but truth? 16:29 <@SkyDog_> Ok, look. so what if someone is dyslexic? You gonna give them shit? 16:29 <@Dagmar> If someone can't fucking put an intelligible question together, how the fuck are they going to learn anything? 16:29 < poiupoiu> hey R3d2Dawn 16:29 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: yes I will 16:29 <@Dagmar> Skydog: That argument doesn't fly. Just because one person is dyslexic doesn't mean that everyone should have the same leniency. 16:29 <@SkyDog_> I understood exactly what he said. 16:30 <@SkyDog_> Why can't YOU? 16:30 <@Dagmar> More importantly, this isn't a dyslexia issue. 16:30 <@Dagmar> This is basic literacy. 16:30 <@SkyDog_> you need to get your head out of your ass and look at hte real world my friend. 16:30 <@Dagmar> SkyDog: Maybe because I was in the middle of eating, either way, I'M not the one who can't use the right words. 16:30 <@SkyDog_> people make mistakes. 16:30 <@Dagmar> No shit people make mistakes. 16:30 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 16:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 16:30 <@Evilpig> new topic. port 445, it is smb yes or no? 16:30 <@Dagmar> I asked him to clarify what the hell he was saying, and I got _my_ ass chewed. 16:31 <@SkyDog_> and you're not the person who's in charge of punishing them for making them. 16:31 <@Dagmar> Fuck thawt. 16:31 <@ShadowHntr> yes 16:31 <@SkyDog_> so get the fuck over it. 16:31 <@Dagmar> Fuck ALL of that 16:31 <@brimstone> Evilpig: yes 16:31 <@Dagmar> Someone talking to me like that in person is asking for troub;l 16:31 <@critch> Evilpig: figured you would enjoy this, especially since you call SkyDog_ tubby all the time. http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-walt-babyboomers-blurb,0,1036393.blurb 16:31 <@SkyDog_> You at work? I will be over there in 7 mins. 16:31 <@Dagmar> Go for it 16:31 <@Dagmar> Fucking GO for ti. 16:31 <@Evilpig> damnit. I totally wanna look at that. but I can't right now 16:31 <@SkyDog_> see you in 7. 16:32 <@Evilpig> fighting with this xerox about network scanning and it is winning 16:34 <@brimstone> Dagmar: s/ti/it/ 16:36 <@Dagmar> Hay at leesed ewe weir able to figure out the typo because it was a simple won 16:36 <@brimstone> omg lurn2engrish! 16:37 < poiupoiu> he's speaking in txtchat! hit the deck! 16:38 <@Dagmar> OKay, so apparently the deal is that we're going to support mediocrity, so I'm out 16:38 -!- Dagmar [i=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has left #se2600 [] 16:40 < poiupoiu> all under a great /topic 16:40 < poiupoiu> :) 16:41 < poiupoiu> whee go home time! 16:43 < R3d2Dawn> well damn, correct me if I am wrong but I think Dagmar needs to correct himself for bad grammar! 16:43 < R3d2Dawn> :) 16:44 <@SkyDog_> Back. 16:44 <@SkyDog_> That was a nice little walk across campus. 16:45 < R3d2Dawn> "going to support mediocrity" I believe it should say "going to support mediocracy" 16:45 <@brimstone> R3d2Dawn: you missed a huge argument 16:45 <@SkyDog_> Sigh. 16:45 < R3d2Dawn> I got some of it 16:46 <@SkyDog_> Arguments are much shorter when you are toe to toe. 16:46 <@SkyDog_> He's left the channel, and supposedly the group. 16:46 <@SkyDog_> I am sorry everyone. 16:46 < R3d2Dawn> I probably pissed him off even more, when I told him I would start sending my text to him for approval first 16:47 <@SkyDog_> I can't sit by and watch the work we put into bringing people into this group be subverted by people arguing silly grammatical errors. 16:47 <@SkyDog_> and I won't have someone tell me that the people here are mediocre. 16:48 <@SkyDog_> I think we shake the people out of this gorup that don't belong not by being jerks, but by them not fitting into our groove. 16:48 < R3d2Dawn> true 16:49 <@SkyDog_> I hate that he took the "I'm leaving" approach. Dagmar is a legacy member of se2600. I just don't believe that being negative and tearing down is the way to get anywhere. 16:49 <@SkyDog_> I'll now take insults and jeers. 16:49 * SkyDog_ steps down from soapbox. 16:50 < R3d2Dawn> For me I am still fairly new to Nashville area, I have only been living her for the past 4yrs and not in a tech field like I was in California. Most of you have been here all your lives and probably in the tech filed for sometime 16:51 < R3d2Dawn> Meeting you the se2600 was a blessing for me... 16:52 < R3d2Dawn> I was about to go insane...trying to strike up a tech conversation with most so called techs at best buy and circuit city around here is like chatting with the wall 16:52 <@Evilpig> HA HA! fuck you xerox, i win. 16:52 <@SkyDog_> Well, ANYONE who comes to the group is welcome to join. 16:53 <@SkyDog_> That's the deal with the non-profit. 16:53 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar hasn't been to a meeting in I don't know how long. 16:53 < R3d2Dawn> My main reason coming was to get back into the grove 16:53 <@Evilpig> i thought we had a non-jew policy? 16:53 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: SHHHH!!! 16:54 < R3d2Dawn> Skydog: did you ever figure out if you are going to the Microsoft Hero thing tomorrow? 16:55 <@SkyDog_> Feh. I have two meetings here a t vandy. 16:55 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: The non-porker clause doesn't effect us as we're grandfathered in. 16:56 < R3d2Dawn> Who was the other person in here yesterday that said they are going? Have I met them yet? 16:57 <@SkyDog_> Um, I forget who that was... 16:59 < R3d2Dawn> me too 16:59 < R3d2Dawn> I will just look back at my history 17:00 < AstralSin> microsoft hero? damn, there's a contradiction 17:00 <@SkyDog_> Heh. This is true. 17:00 <@SkyDog_> I signed up a long time ago, but haven't put it on my calendar. I have to meet for a security thing, and my PRSA project. 17:00 < aestetix> wtf is Microsoft Hero 17:01 <@rattle> It's kind of like Guitar Hero, only it's about hitting the Next button. 17:01 <@SkyDog_> Heh! 17:01 < aestetix> I was hoping it was a sequel to MS Bob 17:01 < AstralSin> its Clippy part 2 17:01 < aestetix> christ 17:01 <@rattle> You have to get the sequence exactly right.. next, next, next, finish, reboot, etc.. 17:02 < aestetix> I thought they got rid of clippy 17:02 < AstralSin> he's baaacck 17:02 < R3d2Dawn> its was tcstool 17:02 < aestetix> wasn't there a site like fuckclippy.com? 17:02 < AstralSin> bigger and badder than ever 17:02 < aestetix> deathtoclippy maybe 17:02 <@ShadowHntr> brb 17:02 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["ClickBOOM."] 17:03 < aestetix> Google is coming up empty 17:05 < AstralSin> http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/clippy-the-phone-sex-girl-nsfw-229074.php 17:05 <@rhia> SkyDog_: um ... arguments over minutia kinda IS the se2600 groove - at least as far back as I can remember 17:06 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 17:06 <@rhia> this place should have it's own soap opera - or web comic - or musical tragedy 17:06 <@rhia> or all three 17:07 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 17:08 * AstralSin scribbles rhia, aestetix, and skydog on a paper napkin, makes some obscure math joke, and develops a cult internet following 17:14 <@rhia> AstralSin: so, you're joining the Church of the Holy Motherboard? Open Source religion - if you don't like the tenets, write your own 17:17 < R3d2Dawn> if we are talking cults then maybe the Church of Holly Gates... I here Bill gives a great sermon 17:18 < R3d2Dawn> and the tithing is about 85%% 17:19 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 17:22 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:32 < ware> ftwe 17:38 < AstralSin> rhia: no thanks, i've already written my own religion 17:40 -!- Opfor_BB [n=Opfor_BB@168.sub-97-19-149.myvzw.com] has joined #se2600 17:45 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 17:56 <@rhia> R3d2Dawn: Considering how often Bill's empire's productions have caused me to clear whole areas from my frustrations and lamentations over the sheer ignominy of their very existence... no thanks, I'll stick to my own. 17:57 <@rhia> AstralSin: If you've written your own, you ARE a member. 17:58 < AstralSin> oh, well then, huzzah! 18:04 < ware> bleh 18:04 < ware> i dont want to go back to cookevile for the 2nd time today. 18:04 < ware> AND back 18:15 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 18:24 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-127-59-4.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 18:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 18:27 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 18:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 18:30 <@hobbes615> sup rattle 18:44 -!- shadowmoss [n=shadowmo@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 18:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o shadowmoss] by ChanServ 18:45 * shadowmoss looks around 18:45 <@shadowmoss> hello-o-o-o? 18:46 <@shadowmoss> 18:46 < AstralSin> shhhh 18:46 <@shadowmoss> ah, sorry... 18:47 < AstralSin> you'll disturb the earthworms 18:47 <@shadowmoss> cool, we have earthworms in here now? 18:47 <@polerin> heh 18:47 <@polerin> we always have. 18:47 * shadowmoss watches where she steps 18:47 < AstralSin> anyone an ebook junkie like me? 18:48 < AstralSin> ftp://202.96.64.144/pub/books/ <- bunch of programming books 18:48 < AstralSin> actually, there's several subjects covered 18:50 <@shadowmoss> so, where is everyone tonight? 18:50 < AstralSin> dunno 18:51 <@shadowmoss> I'm looking for a reason to put off packing to head home 18:51 <@shadowmoss> although I do want to get home 18:51 < AstralSin> where are you now? 18:52 <@shadowmoss> Lansing, MI, I live in Nashville 18:52 < AstralSin> ah 18:52 <@shadowmoss> I've been here 2.5 or so weeks ford work 18:52 <@shadowmoss> err, for work 18:52 < AstralSin> cool 18:53 <@shadowmoss> where are you? 18:53 <@shadowmoss> geographicall, I mean 18:53 < AstralSin> tullahoma, about 80 mi south of nashville 18:53 <@shadowmoss> yeah, I know where that is, have a friend who lives down there somewhere 18:53 < AstralSin> cool 18:55 < AstralSin> im bored 18:56 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 18:59 < R3d2Dawn> Anyone know of a software that monitors data leaving your system? Basically I want to know if and what is leaving my pc and going to some other computer? 18:59 < AstralSin> wireshark 19:05 <@dc0de> R3d2Dawn; what type of data? 19:08 * shadowmoss hugs dc0de 19:08 <@dc0de> shadowmoss; !!!! 19:08 * dc0de jumps up and down for joy! 19:08 <@shadowmoss> wheee! 19:10 <@shadowmoss> I'm in Lansing, MI till Friday, and I'm ready to head home 19:11 -!- Opfor_BB [n=Opfor_BB@168.sub-97-19-149.myvzw.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:11 -!- R3d2Daw1 [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:16 < eryc> hm 19:23 -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @Drag0n 19:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Drag0n 19:25 -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: +MxZBot, @Drag0n` 19:31 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Drag0n`, +MxZBot 19:39 <@oddball> ok, who shit on Dagmar's cornflakes? 19:40 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:40 <@rhia> oddball: scroll - if you can 19:40 -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: +MxZBot, @Drag0n` 19:41 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Drag0n` 19:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Drag0n`] by ChanServ 19:42 -!- Netsplit over, joins: MxZBot 19:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v MxZBot] by ChanServ 19:42 < eryc> the Board of Mediocrity has spoken 19:43 <@someninjamaster> ha 19:50 <@oddball> hmmm... I can see some of where Dagmar was coming from, but it's also obvious that he desperately needs to brush up on his social skills 19:51 < eryc> children should be seen and not heard 19:51 <@oddball> heh 19:51 <@someninjamaster> dagmar just needs to get social skills 19:52 < eryc> never tolerate ignorance 19:53 <@oddball> The statement R3d2Dawn made was painful to read, but I'm not sure it was kick worthy. 19:55 < eryc> he wasn't kicked for his grammatical folleys 19:55 < eryc> he was kicked because he responded with immaturity 19:56 <@Corydon76-dig> At this point, I doubt Dagmar is going to change 19:57 <@Corydon76-dig> He'd need to risk offending someone he actually cares about 19:59 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-71-226-12-74.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:59 <@someninjamaster> can you offend yourself 20:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Not unless you have split personality, I don't think 20:02 -!- Stefanie_TN [n=chatzill@c-68-52-186-194.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Stefanie_TN] by ChanServ 20:03 <@ladymerlin> heys stef 20:04 <@Stefanie_TN> Hi. 20:07 < nz|home> sdodson: hai! 20:11 -!- Netsplit simmons.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @Cynefrid, nz|home, @Drag0n, @someninjaserver, R3d2Daw1, @buu, @brimstone, aestetix_, @wontonjoe, @nachoguy, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:12 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @shadowmoss, R3d2Daw1, @hobbes615, @Mirage, poiupoiu, @sdodson, @wontonjoe, @Cynefrid, @buu, @Dementia (+1 more) 20:13 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @someninjamaster, cwire, @brimstone, @critch, Persephone, @nachoguy, @someninjaserver, aestetix_ 20:19 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-71-226-12-74.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 20:20 -!- Stefanie_TN [n=chatzill@c-68-52-186-194.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.14/2008040413]"] 20:22 < R3d2Daw1> Well, I was not being immature, I was responding back with the same gracious welcoming he gave me. You must have a serious issue when you have a damn near heart attack over one lousy statement and have no idea what was going on that persons end. To be frank I was a bit distracted and was not paying allot attention to every word I was writing. Its kind of hard when you have a two year old at your feat grabbing at stuff and a 73 o 20:24 -!- Maxie1 [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:24 <@ladymerlin> R3d2Daw1: im responding to his email 20:27 -!- R3d2Daw1 [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 20:29 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 20:36 < eryc> are there list archives anywhere? 20:37 < R3d2Dawn> list archives for what? 20:37 < eryc> the se2600 mailing list 20:38 <@ladymerlin> yes 20:38 < R3d2Dawn> ahh. 20:38 -!- shadowmoss [n=shadowmo@ra.thehippo.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:39 < eryc> where are they? 20:39 < R3d2Dawn> Lady Merlin: responding to what email? 20:39 <@SkyDog_> Evening all. 20:39 <@ladymerlin> dagmars email he sent across the list 20:40 < R3d2Dawn> oh.. 20:40 <@SkyDog_> Don't sweat it man. He's pissed at me mostly. 20:41 <@SkyDog_> You made two errors in spelling, and he jumped you. 20:41 <@SkyDog_> I went to his office and got in his face. 20:41 <@SkyDog_> THAT is what has him in a tiz. 20:41 <@SkyDog_> I'm responding to his email on the list. 20:42 < eryc> which is archived where again? 20:43 <@SkyDog_> www.se2600.org 20:43 < eryc> not there 20:43 <@SkyDog_> I think the digests are held there. 20:43 <@SkyDog_> AH. 20:43 < eryc> thus my question. 20:43 <@SkyDog_> Hmmm. 20:43 <@SkyDog_> Priv me your email address. 20:43 <@SkyDog_> I will include you. 20:44 <@SkyDog_> then, sign up for the mailist, if you wanna watch this shit regularly. :) 20:44 <@someninjamaster> um if your walking outside and get spotlighted by a police helecopter is that a bad thing 20:44 < eryc> Thanks I may sign up. I was just interested in reading it.. 20:44 < eryc> I don't wish to be included 20:45 <@SkyDog_> Ok. 20:45 <@SkyDog_> I understand. 20:57 < R3d2Dawn> I have our entire conversation in my logs 20:57 < R3d2Dawn> if you want it SkyDog, I sent it to Lady Merlin 20:59 <@SkyDog_> I already have it. 20:59 <@Evilpig> that conversation might as well start and end on flames 20:59 <@SkyDog_> Thanks though. 21:00 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Possibly. Most likely. 21:00 <@sdodson> who are we flaming? 21:00 <@SkyDog_> There is another element to the whole issue that isn't being looked at. 21:00 -!- opfor_ [n=Owner@24.179.66.197] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:01 <@Evilpig> drama that I didn't start? 21:01 <@ladymerlin> your slacking pig 21:01 <@sdodson> Evilpig: bullshit, don't lie to me fucker 21:01 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Yes. Your turn is next. 21:02 < R3d2Dawn> so what is not being looked at? 21:02 <@sdodson> ladymerlin made me feel all bad so now i don't make fun of people 21:02 <@sdodson> ever 21:02 <@Evilpig> you liar 21:02 <@sdodson> Evilpig: stfu fatty 21:02 * ladymerlin hugs sdodson 21:03 <@sdodson> so as i was saying, i never make fun of people 21:03 <@Evilpig> i'd call sdodson a tubby bitch but there is only one of those in here 21:03 <@sdodson> http://www.newraleigh.com/articles/archive/raleigh-marijuana-march-saturday/#When:16:45:01Z 21:03 < R3d2Dawn> So SkyDog, what is this element we are missing 21:04 <@Evilpig> uranium 21:04 <@Evilpig> we're gonna make a bomb 21:05 <@SkyDog_> R3d2Dawn: You'll se. 21:05 <@SkyDog_> see. 21:05 * R3d2Dawn waiting impatiently, tapping foot on floor. Thinking I can not wait 21:08 <@Evilpig> this is all build up and no pay off. just like skydog in bed 21:09 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 21:10 -!- juice [n=juice@doc-72-47-33-60.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has joined #se2600 21:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o juice] by ChanServ 21:11 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: we thought you weren't gonna ever talk about that again... 21:12 <@someninjamaster> haha 21:13 <@sdodson> Evilpig: Go cyber some 16 year old boys in WoW 21:15 <@mtown_nerd> lol @ WoW cyb0rz 21:16 <@sdodson> what if you're dual boxing? 21:17 <@mtown_nerd> 3 way! 21:24 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 21:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 21:27 <@sdodson> I think the topic (or atleast the bit I wrote) is very appropo 21:27 <@sdodson> (sp?) 21:32 <@SkyDog_> Fuck, don't misspell something in channel.. Whew. 21:32 <@sdodson> i was going to reply 21:32 <@sdodson> 1. he takes himself too seriously 21:33 <@sdodson> 2. people who knowingly degrade quality of communication and write it off "it's not grammar class, lawl" suck 21:35 <@juice> hmm okay this is odd 21:36 <@juice> http://www.google.com/interstitial?url=http://www.chevyrumble.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp%3Fsid%3D%26nm%3D%26type%3DPublishing%26mod%3DPublications%253A%253AArticle%26mid%3D8F3A7027421841978F18BE895F87F791%26id%3D1D1D3435537D49B9BB0AA8C6378B5058%26tier%3D4 21:36 <@juice> anyone seen this before?> 21:36 <@sdodson> ya 21:36 <@polerin> <3 you too sdodson ;P 21:36 <@juice> hmm when they start that up? 21:44 <@MudFlap> I thought brimstone's seig heil hit the spot. Love that grammar guy. 21:45 <@someninjamaster> haha 21:45 <@someninjamaster> dont fuck with my grammer yall 21:46 <@sdodson> what's brimstone say? 21:46 <@Evilpig> dodson: you know damn well I have been playing wow all night 21:47 <@sdodson> What are the odds? 21:48 <@Evilpig> now I am gonna dosbox me some x-com 21:50 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:51 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 21:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 21:55 <@sdodson> http://thetechnologyteacher.wordpress.com/vncthumbnailviewer/ looks cool for schools to use in classrooms 21:56 < AstralSin> grrrrrr this job search is pissing me off 21:57 < AstralSin> all those other douchebags from class got a job and they don't know shit 21:57 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-127-59-4.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 21:58 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 22:02 <@brimstone> who say what? 22:03 <@sdodson> brimstone: don't try to act innocent 22:06 <@brimstone> sdodson: @vncthumbnailviewer or for a training lab 22:08 <@SkyDog_> sigh. 22:08 <@SkyDog_> Ok. I apologize in advance. 22:15 <@brimstone> Diary of the Dead started with the zombies too fast 22:35 <@ShadowHntr> well 22:35 <@ShadowHntr> i just got out of failing my Java course 22:35 <@ShadowHntr> whew 22:44 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 22:44 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 22:44 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: why? 23:17 <+coil> hi 23:18 <@SkyDog_> oy. 23:22 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: my Java instructor is giving me an I grade in the course 23:23 <@ShadowHntr> so i can concentrate on getting a job and getting my situation worked out 23:23 <@ShadowHntr> and not get a panic attack over it and get sick again. 23:31 <+coil> sdodson: pin 23:31 <+coil> sdodson: ping 23:37 <@ShadowHntr> anyone else going to the microsoft product launch tomorrow in nashville? 23:38 <@sdodson> coil: hi 23:52 <+coil> whats up my main brother? 23:53 <@sdodson> coil: not me, it's late 23:54 <+coil> good night then sdodson ! 23:54 <+coil> sleep weeeeeeeeeeel --- Log closed Thu May 01 00:00:55 2008