--- Log opened Sun Apr 20 00:00:47 2008
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00:52 <@dasunt> Meh.
00:52 <@dasunt> Calculating metabolism rates is hard.
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08:40 <@sdodson> ver interesting http://mjg59.livejournal.com/85923.html
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10:04 < R3d2Dawn> http://knowfree.net/
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10:08 <@sdodson> R3d2Dawn: what is that? the site doesnt offer a description
10:09 < R3d2Dawn> It offers free things like ebooks, I beleive some software
10:09 < R3d2Dawn> etc
10:09 <@sdodson> looks like the pirate bay for books i guess
10:09 < R3d2Dawn> if you clik on a topic for example the Mastering Visual C# .Net it will take you to its main site and offer download links
10:11 <@sdodson> http://knowfree.net/2008/04/08/ajax-security.kf :)
10:11 < R3d2Dawn> their is also this one http://abbooka.blogspot.com/
10:12 < R3d2Dawn> the last one has like magazines too
10:17 <@dc0de_> sup saratheneale
10:18 <@dc0de_> sdodson; that sux... I remember my book was actually sold in PDF form, and the first week it was available, someone emailed me a copy they got off of bittorrent
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10:21 <@sdodson> dc0de_: which book was that?
10:22 <@dc0de_> CheckPoint NG - Advanced Configuration and Troubleshooting
10:22 <@dc0de_> Syngress Press
10:23 <@sdodson> what was the revenue model?
10:24 <@dc0de_> I actually have made an entire $2,558 over the past 5 years, including the initial $2k
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10:24 <@dc0de_> I was paid 2K to build, product, and technical edit the book, as an advance, and then a whopping 2% on sales.
10:24 <@dc0de_> it's was my 1st book, so it was easy to dupe me...
10:25 <@sdodson> Do you feel that was adequate?
10:25 <@dc0de_> I've learned from that.
10:25 <@dc0de_> not at all.
10:25 <@dc0de_> not for 8 months of work 24/7
10:25 <@sdodson> You mean the terms or what you actually derived from legitimate versus non legitimate sales?
10:26 <@dc0de_> the terms weren't in my favor at all.
10:26 <@dc0de_> they also didn't divulge in the contract that they had planned on PDF sales.
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10:32 < R3d2Dawn> so sue those bastards
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11:47 <@sdodson> http://lnk.nu/bp2.blogger.com/k16.jpg
11:57 <@brimstone> man, this is so weird
11:57 <@brimstone> vim doesn't work over ssh
12:07 <@sdodson> EUNDEFINED: "doesn't work"
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12:08 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: check the setting of your TERM variable
12:08 <@brimstone> it hangs, can't kill it, do anything
12:08 <@brimstone> it's xterm, like everywhere else
12:08 <@brimstone> if i login locally, vim works
12:08 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: also, if you have ssh X forwarding, it may be attempting to establish a gvim session
12:08 <@brimstone> remotely, nothing
12:08 <@brimstone> no X forwarding
12:08 <@brimstone> i can ssh to ANY other system and vim works
12:09 <@brimstone> so it's not the local client
12:09 <@Corydon76-dig> So no DISPLAY variable is set?
12:09 <@sdodson> i hate shaving
12:09 <@brimstone> sshing with putty also gives the same error
12:09 <@brimstone> nope
12:09 <@brimstone> nothing
12:09 <@Corydon76-dig> weird
12:09 <@brimstone> oh so weird
12:09 <@brimstone> i'm gonna start just replacing hardware now
12:09 <@sdodson> wow, what assinine configuration launches gvim rather than vim when you've got x running?
12:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Different distro?
12:10 <@brimstone> debian etch, tried and true
12:10 <@brimstone> what's funny, is this is suppose to be a xen host
12:10 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: try an 'strace vim'... that should tell you what it's trying to do, failing, and retrying (forever)
12:10 <@brimstone> so i built a xen host on another system, it works just fine, then transfered it to the box, ran it, can't run vim over ssh ither
12:10 <@brimstone> *either
12:11 <@Corydon76-dig> and that might tell you what you need to do
12:11  * brimstone looks for the strace from last night
12:11 <@brimstone> http://pastebin.ca/990041
12:12 <@sdodson> what are your environment variables?
12:14 <@brimstone> http://pastebin.ca/990984
12:14 <@brimstone> bbl, lunch
12:19 <@sdodson> constantly viewing the latest posts on pastebin.ca, it seems several people are writing a mud
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16:07 < R3d2Dawn> anyone an avid user of Firefox?
16:10 <@dc0de_> R3d2Dawn; yes
16:13 <@oddball> ummm... yes?
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16:25 <@someninjamaster> ware are you stoned
16:25 <@someninjamaster> since its 420
16:27 < R3d2Dawn> do you know if their is any vulnerabilities in using the Firefox password manager?
16:31 <@someninjamaster> im sure there is
16:31 <@someninjamaster> weather or not it has been found is another questions
16:32 <@sdodson> i'm pretty sure there were problems with it that were patched in the past 6 months or so
16:37 < ware> nerp
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19:38 <@dasunt> Do thin hackers on the stereotypical high-carb diet develope type-2 diabetes?
19:38 <@dasunt> Or thin people in general.
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19:50 <@someninjamaster> thin people typicly have type 2
19:50 <@someninjamaster> type 1 are generally fat people
19:50 <@dasunt> Er?
19:51 <@dasunt> I thought type 1 was the genetic, type 2 was environmental.
19:51 <@someninjamaster> wait i was reversed
19:55 <@SkyDog_> Anyone else had google come up in german lately?
19:56 < AstralSin> i had it come up in spanish a couple weeks ago
19:58 <@SkyDog_> Hmm. That is just weird.
19:58 <@SkyDog_> Maybe that is a screw up with the IP's or something.
19:59 < AstralSin> prolly
19:59 <@SkyDog_> Bastards.
19:59 < AstralSin> it cleared up for me in about a week
19:59 < AstralSin> anyone ever played around with gambas?
19:59 <@SkyDog_> Nope.
20:02 < ware> http://www.google.com/intl/xx-hacker/
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20:04 < aestetix> http://img.4chan.org/b/res/63729219.html#q63729219
20:05 < AstralSin> 4chan is a dangerous place
20:05 < aestetix> shes hot tii
20:05 < aestetix> too
20:05 < AstralSin> for all you know, that could be a tranny
20:05 < AstralSin> and it wouldn't surprise me at all at 4chan
20:06 < aestetix> call her and find out
20:06 < AstralSin> no thanks
20:09 < ware> aestetix: once again your taste is women is a major fail
20:09 < ware> s/is/in/
20:10 < ware> http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1208740184231.jpg is much better
20:11 < aestetix> ware: at least I don't have to lock the stable door when I'm done having sex.
20:22 <@brimstone> bill bill bill bill bill bill nye the science guy
20:22 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: i liked that show :)
20:22 <@ShadowHntr> still do
20:23 <@brimstone> i'm watching them all in order now
20:23 <@brimstone> well, alphebetical order
20:23 <@brimstone> only 100 shows
20:23 <@brimstone> :/
20:23 <@brimstone> 5 line combooooo!
20:23 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: broadcast tv? online? bittorrent? info, please !
20:24 <@brimstone> well, not tv or online...
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20:24 <@brimstone> is about a 23GB torrent :( took a dayish to download
20:24 <@ShadowHntr> whoa
20:25 <@ShadowHntr> and that's just bill?
20:25 <@brimstone> yup
20:25 <@brimstone> 100 ~230MB episodes
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21:25 <@brimstone> i can't see size 7pt on a 20" screen at 1680x1050 at 3' :(
21:25 <@brimstone> i must be getting old
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21:44 <@sdodson> brimstone: haha you're old man! like dc0de old!
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21:55 < cwire> hey hey, be nice, don't make dc0de run over you with his wheelchair :)
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22:08 <@sdodson> bah, somelady on the news is telling how she's teaching her daughter that voting is important "And at only 3 years old she already knows who she'll vote for"  bah, at three years old it's just brain washing folks
22:09 <@brimstone> you can train a monkey to do anything
22:09 <@brimstone> err, child
22:09 <@sdodson> bad brimstone
22:09 <@sdodson> bad
22:10 <@brimstone> did i say that outloud?
22:10 <@brimstone> i meant, wow, go voters!
22:12 < cwire> do 3 year olds generally still wear diapers?
22:12 <@sdodson> generally they train around that age
22:13 < cwire> well then, she's pretty much on par with really old people i guess
22:15 <@sdodson> zing!
22:17 <@sdodson> why is it that I never visit digg.com yet anytime I use the dig command i type digg?
22:20 < AstralSin> subliminal messages
22:20 <@brimstone> http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
22:21 < AstralSin> wtf does one have to do to get a career in offensive security, i've spoken with 2 companies so far, they both want someone who's conducted 200+ pen tests
22:21 <@sdodson> http://gordallott.wordpress.com/2008/04/19/big-games-devloper-valve-porting-huge-game-series-half-life-2-orange-box-to-linux-possibly/
22:21 <@brimstone> AstralSin: blood is thicker then water
22:21 <@brimstone> sdodson: wine
22:22 < AstralSin> uh... what?
22:22 <@sdodson> brimstone: I find it dubious that someone from valve would target ubuntu channels of all places to find a senior software engineer.
22:22 <@sdodson> Sr. Automatix Runner
22:22 <@brimstone> AstralSin: for x in {0..200}; do nessus...; done
22:23 < cwire> haha
22:23 < AstralSin> if i could figure out how to get nessus to run from the cli, i would already have that done, i don't think recent versions can run scans from the shell
22:24 <@sdodson> I think that's part of their model. Make the cli hard to use so people buy the commercial version.
22:24 <@brimstone> i find that hard to believe, you need a gui to do pen tests
22:24 < AstralSin> hell, i wrote a shell script that enumerates a network and spits out the output to a text file, i wanted to add nessus to it but i can't get it to run from the cli
22:25 <@sdodson> i don't remember the cli being that hard
22:26 < AstralSin> i prefer working in the cli but i can't figure out how to get nessus to do a scan from there
22:27 <@brimstone> i got the network guys arguing cli vs gui with the IT boss friday, it was great :D
22:27 < AstralSin> got any positions open in the IT dept?
22:27 <@brimstone> derailing meetings has got to be some sort of sport by now
22:28 <@brimstone> AstralSin: none that you'd want
22:28 <@sdodson> brimstone: Does it involve putting up the "Legendary Thread" image?
22:28 < AstralSin> i'm not too picky at this point, as long as its not help desk
22:28 < NotLarry_> wow, anyone just watch southpark?
22:29 <@brimstone> NotLarry_: it's not done downloading
22:29 < NotLarry_> watch out for the ectoplasm
22:29 <@brimstone> poor slimer
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22:59 < NotLarry_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mxAxQYQbtU
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23:35 <@Mirage> ,
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23:47 < NotLarry_> and by god, if you never stepped foot in the chukker you ain't shit
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