--- Log opened Sat Apr 12 00:00:08 2008
00:00 < sdodson> does wonders for acne
00:10 <@aestetix> syntax highlighting in nano ftw
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00:53 <@NotLarry> d
00:53 <@NotLarry> what?
00:53 <@NotLarry> Pig, you still here?
00:56 <@Evilpig> yeah
00:56 <@Evilpig> you caleld about 9:30 what did you want?
01:09 < ware> rofl
01:09 < ware> tim and heather are passed out
01:09 < ware> heather is passed out in the shower
01:09 < ware> and tim is passed out on the toilet
01:09 < ware> ROFL
01:09 < ware> no shens pics in the mornin
01:21 <@aestetix> yo
01:22 <@aestetix> ok
01:22 <@aestetix> how the fuck do you enable innodb in mysql
01:22 <@aestetix> this is becoming a pain in the ass
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02:01 < ware> aestetix: noob
02:01 < ware> stfi
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04:55 < Synx_hm> anyone awake, and a dd expert
04:55 < Synx_hm> how can i get dd to not copy the empty space
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08:33 <@someninjamaster> morning all
08:33 < oddball__> morning
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08:33 < AstralSin> mornin
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08:34 <@Corydon76-dig> mr0nin
08:34 <@someninjamaster> Corydon76-dig: i went by vcch yesterday
08:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Call first?
08:34 <@someninjamaster> no
08:34 <@someninjamaster> but howard was there
08:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, cool
08:35 <@someninjamaster> i grabbed a 320
08:35 <@someninjamaster> i thought i had passed it
08:35 <@someninjamaster> because i thought it was on the nashville side of springfield
08:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Nashville side?
08:36 <@Corydon76-dig> It's on the north side
08:36 <@someninjamaster> so i found out
08:37 < ware> wee
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08:53 <@ladymerlin> whee
08:55 < AstralSin> guh, i'm gonna start charging my friends for them fucking up their ubuntu and calling me
08:55 <@oddball> heh
08:56 <@oddball> You could start treating then like Dagmar treated me when I was starting out on Linux.  "You need to use [x] program... look it up."
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09:04 < ware> whoa!
09:04 < ware> my friends are bitches =/
09:04 <@oddball> Oh, god... I think I might actually go back to setting up a slackware machine again.
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09:56 <@polerin> god I <3 john butler trio
09:56 <@polerin> that man can play a guitar like a fiend
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10:42 <@dc0de> mr0nin all
10:42 < dmcmorris_esi> mr0nion
10:43 <@mtown_nerd> m40nin
10:43 <@mtown_nerd> awww.... I fail  :[
10:44  * mtown_nerd wishes he could find some definitive evidence outside of review sites that give details on my motherboard's performance under Vista 64.  ;[
10:44 < dmcmorris_esi> it's damn near noon and we're still too tired to correctly spell
10:44 <@dc0de> yup
10:44 <@dc0de> did anyone see that Google Docs now allows you to work on your stuff offline?
10:44 <@dc0de> and they added the "export to PPT" option for presentations...
10:45 < dmcmorris_esi> I saw that a couple days ago... I don't think it's enabled for me yet, but we haven't used it all that much as of late
10:45 <@polerin> sorry, I just am not all that enthused about having google storing all my data
10:45 <@polerin> :/
10:51 <@dc0de> polerin; yeah, but for free, it's fine... I think.
10:51 <@dc0de> for data that's mostly innocuous, or for presentations I give at conventions, I don't really care.
10:52 <@polerin> meh
10:52 <@polerin> I just ... yeah
10:52 <@dc0de> as long as I'm not uploading illegal content, I'm fairly ok with it.
10:52 <@polerin> I don't trust google.
10:52 <@polerin> never have
10:52 <@dc0de> neither do I, but the you can't beat the convenience
10:52 <@polerin> trust them more than some, but that's not saying much, I don't trust anything ;P
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11:19 <@mtown_nerd> pewpewpewpew!!
11:19 <@mtown_nerd> teh lazors has invaded!1
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12:05 <@Evilpig> there has to be an easier way to move servers.  I didn't realize I had so many perl modules built that I use
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13:08 <@dc0de> haha... http://www.bash.org/?854262
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15:48  * sdodson watching the preds lose
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16:39 <@dasunt> Weird.
16:39 <@dasunt> Sick people don't show symptoms of overdosing on vitamin C that healthy people do.
16:40 <@dasunt> It takes over a tenfold increase to get a sick person to show the same adverse effects as a healthy person.
16:44 < dmcmorris_esi> interesting
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17:20 <@someninjamaster> afternoon all
17:20 <@Mirage> screw you hippy
17:20 <@someninjamaster> afternoon all
17:20 < dmcmorris_esi> evening
17:22 <@someninjamaster> fuck you mirage
17:23 <@someninjamaster> i downloading my pictures now
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17:34 <@aestetix> god
17:34 <@aestetix> South Park is brilliant.
17:35 <@aestetix> The Britney Spears episode ... hahaha
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18:25 <@someninjamaster> http://www.travelandleisure.com/slideshows/the-worlds-scariest-runways/2http://www.travelandleisure.com/slideshows/the-worlds-scariest-runways/2
18:25 <@someninjamaster> doh
18:25 <@someninjamaster> http://www.travelandleisure.com/slideshows/the-worlds-scariest-runways/2
18:25 <@someninjamaster> there we go
18:30 < sdodson> dasunt: You seem to be hitting up all sorts of nutrition forums or something
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18:55 < R3d2Dawn> anyone do allot of reading?
18:59 <@Corydon76-dig> "a lot"
18:59 <@Corydon76-dig> and no, not anymore
18:59 < R3d2Dawn> thanks for the spelling tutorial
19:00 < R3d2Dawn> would you say you read a book or two a month?
19:00 < R3d2Dawn> no anyone who does?
19:01 <@rhia> ?
19:03 < R3d2Dawn> Anyone here of  a blockbuster / netflix but for books?
19:04 <@dc0de> R3d2Dawn; yes, my wife reads about 2 books a day.
19:04 < R3d2Dawn> she may like this then
19:04 <@dc0de> and the "blockbuster/netflix" for books is called a Library.
19:04 <@dc0de> it's been invented already.
19:04 < R3d2Dawn> http://www.bookswim.com/
19:04 < R3d2Dawn> and their is also this http://www.booksfree.com/
19:04 < R3d2Dawn> but the first one has more of a selection than the last
19:05 < R3d2Dawn> they are basically book rental clubs like say netflix / blockbuster is to movies
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19:05 <@dc0de> yeah, just told my wife about it, and her words, "Paying for something that you can get for free is stupid."
19:06 <@dc0de> I guess paying for it somehow makes up for the trip to the library.
19:06 <@dc0de> since they "deliver it" to your door.
19:06 <@dc0de> however, since we drive by two different libraries on a regular basis, I guess we're not going to be signing up.
19:07 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: not all libraries are free libraries, though
19:07 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig; true...
19:07 <@dc0de> if you don't return your books on time, you have to pay a penalty.
19:07 <@dc0de> but that's just responsibility.
19:07 < R3d2Dawn> nope, but I have to admit though its a great idea and in comparrison to some libraries their is probably a better selection too
19:07 <@Corydon76-dig> No, I meant that for some libraries, you don't get access unless you pay a yearly fee
19:08 <@dc0de> I don't know of a library that has a yearly fee.
19:08 < R3d2Dawn> I do
19:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Law libraries, especially
19:08 < R3d2Dawn> I know several
19:08 < R3d2Dawn> they are actually your more nicer libraries
19:08 <@dc0de> I've never been asked in any of the states I've lived in that had any fees to be members.
19:08 <@dc0de> "more nicer?"
19:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Most of the metro libraries are free, though
19:08 < R3d2Dawn> it helps cover the cost and they usually care a more wider selection of books
19:08 <@dc0de> I didn't grow up in a "metro", and I've never had an issue with book selection.
19:09 < sdodson> Sigh, publishing stats of kernel code contributions will lead to silly games to manipulate the results.
19:09 <@dc0de> I guess if you have to read law books, then some online netflix like service would be good...
19:09 <@Corydon76-dig> I know the local Metro library here absolutely sucks on selection
19:09 <@dc0de> however boring.
19:09 < sdodson> R3d2Dawn: I read a lot of porn sites.
19:09 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig; the GA Library system is very good.
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19:09 < sdodson> galileo!
19:09 <@Corydon76-dig> The online law library has already been done, though.  Lexis Nexus is one such service
19:09 <@dc0de> if you don't have a book in your county, they will retrieve it from another...
19:10 <@dc0de> so selection isn't an issue here.
19:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Michie is another
19:10 < R3d2Dawn> Surprising enough though the first site has a fairly good selection even of Computer books and they are more recent, where most libraries have older
19:10 < R3d2Dawn> and how many libraries carry the latest novels and books
19:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, for technical books, libraries tend to suck
19:10 <@dc0de> R3d2Dawn; for computer books, I have an account with safari.oreilly.com
19:10 < R3d2Dawn> I do too, but some times the hard books come in handy
19:10 <@Corydon76-dig> That's why I own my own library of tech books
19:11 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig; I have my own library of books as well, but there are some topics I need, quickly, that I can't just go buy...
19:11 < R3d2Dawn> I have my own library of tech books too
19:11 <@dc0de> so I search them out of safari...
19:12 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: if Safari has a book onine, I just order directly from O'Reilly.  It's amazing how quickly they ship
19:12 <@ladymerlin> Corydon76-dig: http://www.ladymerlin.com/gallery/2600hike/DSCN0624
19:12 <@Corydon76-dig> And I have a discount code for 30% off (DSUG)
19:12 <@dc0de> ladymerlin; Sweet!
19:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, excellent
19:12 <@ladymerlin> lol
19:13 < R3d2Dawn> well some of us can not just go out and buy books regularly
19:13 <@dc0de> who brought the penis cookies?
19:13 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig; ???
19:13 <@ladymerlin> do you really need to ask?
19:14 <@dc0de> http://www.ladymerlin.com/gallery/2600hike/DSCN0558
19:14 <@dc0de> well, it could have been ware...
19:14 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig; how much jizz was in the batter?
19:15 <@dc0de> err, I mean "frosting".
19:15 <@Corydon76-dig> If I'm going to get ware to swallow one of these days, I want it done in a way that he realizes he's swallowing that
19:16 <@dc0de> heh
19:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Subterfuge is no good
19:16 < sdodson> Is that corydon you see in ware's sunglasses?
19:16 <@dc0de> yup, good shot.
19:16 <@dc0de> good eye sdodson
19:17 <@Corydon76-dig> For some reason, Greg didn't want any cookies
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19:17 <@dc0de> cockies?
19:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Gingerbread cookies
19:17 <@dc0de> what are the little black speckles?
19:17 <@dc0de> pube dust?
19:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Came in the batter
19:18 <@Corydon76-dig> You don't think I made those scratch, did you?
19:18 <@dc0de> of course you did.
19:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Betty Crocker has more time to mix than I do
19:18 <@dc0de> heh
19:19 <@dc0de> ladymerlin; some nice pics of the waterfalls.. where was the hike again?
19:20 <@someninjamaster> awesome pictures
19:21 <@dc0de> I really like this one...
19:21 <@dc0de> http://www.ladymerlin.com/gallery/2600hike/DSCN0574
19:22 <@dc0de> is this Mirage??? http://www.ladymerlin.com/gallery/2600hike/DSCN0583
19:23 < sdodson> how far was the hike?
19:49 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: yeah, that's mirage.
19:49 <@SkyDog_> sdodson: not very far.
19:49 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; so that's two pics of Mirage ever?
19:49 <@SkyDog_> 3/4 mile to the lookout, i think.
19:50 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: i think so. maybe 3.
19:50 <@dc0de> wow...
19:50 <@dc0de> he must be pissed.
19:50 <@dc0de> :)
19:50 <@SkyDog_> heh. I think he's getting better about it with age.
19:51 <@dc0de> he
19:51 <@dc0de> heh
19:52 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: we need to have a talk about your hair.
19:52 <@Evilpig> growing it longer is not replacing what is missing in fron there.
19:52 < sdodson> I walk a ton these days, odd.
19:53 < sdodson> mullets!
19:54 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: sit down porcine boy.
19:54 < sdodson> Politics seasons depress me.
19:55 <@Evilpig> did you see the pics there?  dodson has it right you are like an inch away from monster trucks and boat shows
19:56 <@SkyDog_> my hair isn't anywhere near a mullet. thank you very much.
19:56 <@Evilpig> do we need to refer to exihibit a?
19:56 <@Evilpig> http://www.ladymerlin.com/gallery/2600hike/DSCN0581
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19:57 <@SkyDog_> dude. a mullet is short hair on top, long in the back. you really should know what you're talking about before you try to insult me.
19:58 <@Evilpig> okay trim the sides a bit and you're mullettastic
19:58 <@SkyDog_> feh. whatever pig-boy.
19:58 <@Evilpig> if you want I can pop that into photoshop really fast and do a simulation
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19:59 <@SkyDog_> well, while you're playing with photoshop, i'm going out for the evening. enjoy your computer.
19:59 <@Evilpig> i've already been out.  and got sushi
20:02 < sdodson> SkyDog_: I was just joking man.
20:03 <@Evilpig> I wasn't
20:03 < sdodson> Is there a rift in TN/KY se2600? you seem to be throwing stones Evilpig
20:03 <@Evilpig> i'm not throwing stones.  i'm preparing for nuclear war
20:03 <@Evilpig> well that and I am just in a shit mood tonight
20:05 < sdodson> Why you a bitch, Evilpig ?
20:07 <@juice> hi
20:13 < sdodson> Are there only three episodes of Law and Order? I only see that show about once every month and it's always the same damn episode.
20:13 < sdodson> It's worse than a nickelodeon series.
20:14 <@Evilpig> can't say I have seen it even once
20:15 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; I see there's another pic of Mirage... he's slippin.
20:15 <@dc0de> #78 of 96.
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20:53 <@someninjamaster> anyone else got pictures up
20:56 < sdodson> Why does Google continuously find ways to show us information in ways that makes prior methods look primitive?
20:57 <@tzanger> sdodson: :-)
20:58 <@juice> that would have been awesome some gas station in N.C. was selling premium gas for 35 cents a gallon
20:58 <@juice> from like 9am-6pm
20:58 <@juice> the price was supposed to be 3.35
20:58 <@juice> not one person told them the mistake
20:58 <@juice> the lines were so long police had to be called in
20:59 <@juice> they found the mistake when they were calling the dm to see about price change to control the lines
20:59 <@juice> heh
20:59 <@dc0de> very nice
21:00 <@tzanger> juice: hahaha
21:00 <@juice> i could have filled up on 6bucks
21:00 <@tzanger> I bet many people did
21:00 <@juice> yeah
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21:01 <@juice> People had been coming in all day stiffing us, not telling us nothing,? Weller said. ?They knew something was wrong because regular gas was still $3-something a gallon, and when have you ever known premium gas to be lower than regular??
21:02 <@juice> heh
21:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Must've been a loss-leader
21:02 <@dc0de> I would have thought it was a loss leader...
21:02 <@Corydon76-dig> jinx
21:02 <@juice> hehe
21:03 <@dc0de> and filled all my vehicles up, driven home and gotten all of my 5Gal Gerry Cans, and went back for more.
21:03 <@juice> haha
21:03 <@juice> 1) The station attendants who did not figure out the problem. A career at TSA awaits you.
21:03 <@juice> http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3532253
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21:03 <@juice> some funny comments on the situation
21:07 <@dc0de> juice; yeah, I'm stuck reading them.... :)
21:07 <@juice> hehe
21:08 <@juice> i love that steve martin pic
21:09 <@juice> their iq must have been about 35
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21:42 <@tzanger> heh
21:42 <@tzanger> ed_severson's post was hilarious
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23:26 <@macogw> before i go committing code that could turn into a buffer overflow, the 3rd arg in strncpy and strncat should be 1 more than the number of visible chars in the 2nd to account for the null byte, right?
23:27 <@macogw> Corydon76-dig explained something about it to me at some point, but i forget since i havent used C since then
23:48 <@sdodson> I believe that's correct. I think strncpy is immune to buffer overflow as it does the right thing no matter if that means truncating your data, but then again i've not written a line of C voluntarilly
23:50 <@sdodson> http://opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908775/xsh/strncpy.html has details of what happens
23:51 <@tzanger> haha "I've not written a line of C voluntarily"
23:51 <@tzanger> last night I wrote a monty hall problem program
23:52 <@Corydon76-dig> macogw: the 3rd argument should be 1 less than the total destination buffer size
23:52 <@tzanger> was having an argument with a friend online about how the remaining door has 2/3 chance of the car
23:52 <@Corydon76-dig> If you see the manpage, it says that strncpy can write up to n+1 chars
23:52 <@macogw> Corydon76-dig: well i'm copying a 2-char (+null byte) string into an 11-byte buffer and then strncat'ing an 8-char + null byte string onto there
23:52 <@Corydon76-dig> since the string will always be NULL-terminated
23:53 <@macogw> sdodson: yeah i read that but i wasnt quite sure and figured id ask the people that spend time looking at overflows
23:53 <@Corydon76-dig> macogw: if you are SURE about the maximum size it could ever be (even with invalid inputs), then you can use strcpy
23:54 <+coil> hi
23:54 <@sdodson> Many tools will yell at you for using strcpy
23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> strcpy is faster, though potentially unsafe if the inputs are indeterminate
23:54 <@macogw> Corydon76-dig: i was using strcpy but the uploa manager was afraid someone might touch the code and cause an overflow later.  as it is, its not taking any input directly and anything be added has already been cut to size
23:54 <@macogw> *upload
23:54 <@macogw> *being
23:54 <@macogw> wow i cant type
23:54 <@sdodson> I don't like that form of correction anyway.
23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Also, OpenBSD added strlcpy and strlcat, which doesn't require you to -1 the 3rd argument
23:56 <@macogw> sdodson: form of correction?
23:57 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: What leads you believe it will always be null terminated? Multiple references I'm reading say just the opposite.
23:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Typically when we use strcpy(), we include the comment /* safe */ on the same line
23:57 <@sdodson> *foo
23:57 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: read the manpage.  strncpy and strncat is guaranteed to always be NULL-terminated
23:57 <@sdodson> s/tpyo/typo/ makes sense. *typo doesn't
23:58 <@macogw> someone in #linuxchix checked a manpage (i didnt know there were manpages for C O_o) and said it's null-terminated on strncat but not strncpy and for that you have to manually add the null byte
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: the trouble is that they MAY overflow the buffer they were given, if the 3rd argument is not correct
23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, that's correct, now that I re-check the manpage
23:59 <@macogw> sdodson: habit from years of AIM. either *typo or typo* are normal on there
23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> strncat always null-terminates
23:59 <@macogw> now i just mix and match the * method and the sed method on both aim and irc
23:59 <@sdodson> If SRC is longer than DEST it won't always be null terminated.
23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> strncpy may or may not
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