--- Log opened Wed Apr 09 00:00:19 2008 00:09 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcbazH6aE2g 00:14 < Synx_hm> wtf is looking for group? 00:16 <@dasunt> Bored. 00:19 <@mtown_nerd> 41 sham lfg wc pst 00:19 <@mtown_nerd> lawl 00:20 <@mtown_nerd> What a good song to parody. :D 00:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o buu] by ChanServ 01:02 * dasunt flees from another channel. 01:04 <@aestetix> moo 01:04 <@dasunt> I'm hungry. 01:04 <@dasunt> Meh. 01:04 <@dasunt> Double meh. 01:05 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:06 < Synx_hm> anyone here a buddist 01:07 <@dasunt> No. But ask the question. 01:09 < Synx_hm> just curious about buddhism 01:09 < Synx_hm> trying to venture into new spiritual directions 01:09 < Synx_hm> am tired of overarching Religion 01:13 <@dasunt> Buddhism seems to be both a religion and a philosophy. 01:14 < Synx_hm> ya, the word religion is a confusing one 01:15 < Synx_hm> but am very much interested in the philosophy of buddhism 01:15 < Synx_hm> although i wish to discover more about it 01:15 < Synx_hm> ;) 01:16 <@dasunt> I have a decent book on one of the forms of buddhist meditation. 01:17 < Synx_hm> what is it called? 01:18 < Synx_hm> i need to pick up some good books on meditation anyways 01:18 <@dasunt> http://www.amazon.com/Mindfulness-Plain-English-Updated-Expanded/dp/0861713214/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207721913&sr=8-1 01:19 < Synx_hm> i have only attained a state of complete stillness accompied by heavy vibrations maybe twice or three times 01:19 < Synx_hm> thanks 01:20 < Synx_hm> this is a wonderfull book fiction about Siddhartha 01:20 < Synx_hm> http://www.amazon.com/Siddhartha-Hermann-Hesse/dp/0553208845/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207722001&sr=1-2 01:22 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 01:25 <@dasunt> Now I must sleep. 01:25 <@dasunt> G'night. 01:26 < Synx_hm> g'night thanks for the link 02:11 -!- dysturbed [n=dysturbe@182.223.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:16 -!- skmurphy [n=chatzill@168.28.68.74] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:36 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-155-216-230.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 02:36 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-155-216-230.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 02:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 02:54 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@nat334.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 02:54 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@nat334.national-net.com] has left #se2600 [] 03:03 -!- Opheria [i=Opheria@c-69-180-209-3.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:05 -!- opfor [n=opfor@24.179.66.197] has quit [] 03:06 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:15 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o strages] by ChanServ 06:26 <@Shadow404> meow 06:26 <@Shadow404> got to work 50 minutes early, traffic was light 06:35 < dmcmorris_esi> heh, so you got to work in 10 minutes?? 06:36 < dmcmorris_esi> Ok, I got to see how I can do! ;) 06:36 <@Shadow404> left at 6:45 got here at 7:15 06:36 <@Shadow404> dont know how i made it in 30 minutes 06:36 <@Shadow404> usually takes me 45 min in traffic 06:53 <@dc0de> wheee 06:56 * Shadow404 points to restroom 06:56 <@Shadow404> jeeezz, i labled it in big red flashing letters for ladymerlin, how could you not see it? 06:57 <@dc0de> cuz I don't read chicken scratch 06:57 <@Shadow404> heh, yeah, my handwriting does suck 06:58 <@Shadow404> ill have to get a 3 foot by 7 foot flashing led sign 06:59 < dmcmorris_esi> arg... my drive was /longer/.... damn people who don't go above 30MPH in 45MPH zones... 06:59 <@dc0de> my drive was awesome... 06:59 <@dc0de> I drove my kids to daycare, and back. 06:59 <@dc0de> and now I'm in my office today 07:00 <@dc0de> a.k.a. my couch. 07:02 <@Shadow404> heh, i get to telework tomorrow, was supposed to today, but i had to get some lab work done 07:02 <@Shadow404> cause clinet keeps changing the design 07:03 <@dc0de> yeah, that's why my lab is all remotely accessable. 07:03 <@Shadow404> well, i have to physically setup shit 07:03 <@dc0de> like? 07:03 <@Shadow404> so i would connct remote if i could through the vty server 07:03 <@Shadow404> well, hes gonna have load balancers and shit 07:03 <@Shadow404> and keeps changing how their gonna get setup 07:04 <@dc0de> ok, that's why I have remote connectivity to my lab. 07:04 <@Shadow404> well, i still have to physicall move cables 07:04 <@dc0de> and we have LB's, routers, switches, and others... 07:04 <@Shadow404> and try diffrent switches 07:04 <@Shadow404> than he wants to know the max time our ups will work, so i have to simulate power loss 07:05 < dmcmorris_esi> heh... sounds like a case where labor is going to cost more than the hardware by the time they get their act together 07:05 <@Shadow404> na, they are already a customer 07:05 <@Shadow404> but thir sub customer is a huge one 07:05 < dmcmorris_esi> ahh 07:05 <@Shadow404> so i understand why all the physical testing 07:05 <@Shadow404> and it has only been about 5 man hours so far 07:05 <@dc0de> bbiab. 07:05 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["someone closed something..."] 07:05 <@Shadow404> and they are almost ready for deployment 07:06 <@Shadow404> i just gotta throw this in visio now and stress test it 07:06 <@Shadow404> so i know the lb's and workig right 07:06 <@Shadow404> *are 07:07 <@Shadow404> whats thats done, then i put it into secure production and have the customer test it 07:08 < dmcmorris_esi> nifty 07:08 <@Shadow404> so basically they are goig to be paying us $alot of money to have a hot system running for them in case their primary db server goes down 07:08 <@Shadow404> and then the backup system is supposed to have double redundancy 07:09 < dmcmorris_esi> ahh 07:09 <@Shadow404> so far $customers setup has 3 diffrent main circuits, on 2 backup diesel generator power, and has 3 ups, that switch over to the next if the other runs down 07:09 < dmcmorris_esi> offsite_failover++ 07:09 <@Shadow404> yep 07:10 < dmcmorris_esi> curious... no piped natural gas at site for a natural gas generator? 07:11 <@Shadow404> it could, but most d/c run on diesel, because if a natural disaster happens and a pipe gets busted, there goes your gas source 07:11 <@Shadow404> you can always chopper in more diesel 07:11 < dmcmorris_esi> right 07:11 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 07:12 <@Shadow404> heh, that doesnt mean, the generators always work, take 365 main sf, that was embarrasing 07:12 <@Shadow404> 4 hours complete downtime 07:12 < dmcmorris_esi> I was thinking more like a backhoe tricking through mains... ;) 07:12 < dmcmorris_esi> oh wow... 07:13 < dmcmorris_esi> sounds like fun, anyway ;) 07:13 <@dc0de> History Channel has an interesting show on. 07:14 < dmcmorris_esi> arg... we really need to get our plasma mounted and pick up a coaxial cable for the feed... 07:14 <@dc0de> Talking about the WWII Nazi research in advanced propulsion 07:14 <@Shadow404> cool 07:15 <@dc0de> yeah, it's kinda freaky 07:15 <@dc0de> dmcmorris_esi; what does ESI do? 07:15 < dmcmorris_esi> dc0de: support and development for open-source library automation software 07:15 <@dc0de> ahh, sweet, that's impressive 07:16 < dmcmorris_esi> http://www.open-ils.org is the software 07:16 < dmcmorris_esi> thanks ;) It's certainly fun ;) 07:16 <@dc0de> they treat you well? 07:16 < dmcmorris_esi> oh gosh yeah 07:16 <@dc0de> :) 07:16 <@dc0de> good. 07:17 < dmcmorris_esi> not many workplaces do you hear this exchange... 07:17 < dmcmorris_esi> 1) "Hold on, I got to put my hearing aides in" 07:17 < dmcmorris_esi> 2) "Hurry up you dirty bastard" 07:17 <@dc0de> heh. 07:17 <@dc0de> dmcmorris_esi; what's the main web for ESI? 07:17 < dmcmorris_esi> dc0de: http://www.esilibrary.com 07:17 <@dc0de> cool 07:18 <@Shadow404> whats the secondary web? 07:19 < dmcmorris_esi> http://www.open-ils.org is the product we principally support 07:21 <@dc0de> dmcmorris_esi; is this primarily for lending libraries? 07:21 < dmcmorris_esi> dc0de: public libraries... you know, those that have those antiquated paper books and such ;) 07:21 <@dc0de> right. 07:22 <@dc0de> I'm just thinking. 07:22 < dmcmorris_esi> http://www.gapines.org is one of the most well-known installations 07:22 <@dc0de> I'm on it right now 07:22 < dmcmorris_esi> for shadow, that would probably be our tertiary web ;) 07:23 < dmcmorris_esi> dc0de: /If/ you wanted to use it to track hardware (I think that's what you mean by "lending library"?), you certainly could... it'd be massive overkill though 07:24 <@dc0de> no, it's something completely different, I don't think it will work tho. 07:24 <@Shadow404> no dc0de, you cant make love with a virtual version of a book either 07:25 <@dc0de> sorry Shadow404, not thinking pornographically yet... 07:25 <@dc0de> haven't had enough work 07:25 <@Shadow404> ....keyword...yet 07:25 <@Shadow404> im already there 07:25 <@Shadow404> well, i was this morning 07:26 < sdodson> it's still morning yo 07:26 <@dc0de> dmcmorris_esi; i'm trying to find a title, "Run Silent, Run Deep" and can't seem to find it. 07:26 <@Shadow404> sdodson: and? 07:26 <@dc0de> in demo.gapines.org 07:27 < dmcmorris_esi> oh, demo has a small collection right now IIRC 07:27 < dmcmorris_esi> we're having some throughput issues with this $100k SAN, so we had to take demo off of it... working with the vendor to get it working 07:28 < sdodson> I wish SANs were cheaper 07:29 < sdodson> least for active/active ones 07:30 < dmcmorris_esi> this one looks incredibly sexy... but isn't working as well as we were lead to believe 07:30 < sdodson> what is it? 07:30 < dmcmorris_esi> HP StorageWorks 300 IIRC 07:30 <@mtown_nerd> Mornin', doods 07:30 < dmcmorris_esi> morning mtown ;) 07:31 < dmcmorris_esi> http://open-ils.org/blog/?p=56 has some pictures of the older racks. They had to move to a bigger cage, so the servers are in a "slightly" different layout now ;) 07:37 < sdodson> nice get up 07:38 < dmcmorris_esi> it's screaming "give me blades!", but it is pretty sexy 07:38 < dmcmorris_esi> IMHO ;) 07:39 <@dc0de> morning mtown_nerd 07:39 <@dc0de> dmcmorris_esi; that's cool 07:39 <@brimstone> wheee 07:40 <@dc0de> dmcmorris_esi; can the software also search the text of the library? 07:40 < dmcmorris_esi> dc0de: ? As in the text of the books? 07:40 <@dc0de> yeah 07:40 <@dc0de> if you feed it the electronic copy? 07:41 < dmcmorris_esi> From a technical POV, whatever you put in the bibliographic record, it can search. It's rare to put anything more than the Table of Contents in 07:41 <@dc0de> ok 07:41 < dmcmorris_esi> http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/ ;) 07:42 <@dc0de> ahh. 07:42 <@dc0de> gotcha 07:42 <@dc0de> nice, an actual set of standards... :) 07:42 < dmcmorris_esi> yeah ;) 07:42 <@dc0de> dmcmorris_esi; do you go to the 2600 meetings or dc404 meetings? 07:43 < dmcmorris_esi> it's from the 70's originally... 07:43 < dmcmorris_esi> dc0de: I was at the 2600-404 meeting last week... first time in 07:43 <@dc0de> kk. 07:43 <@Shadow404> and how many eople showed up? 07:43 <@Shadow404> anybody? 07:43 <@dc0de> I usually don't make those, friday night is hard for a married man with 3 kids. 07:43 < dmcmorris_esi> 'bout 9 or so 07:44 <@Shadow404> any names? 07:44 <@dc0de> I have started going to the dc404 meetings, on saturdays... 07:44 <@dc0de> and there's usually a talk. 07:44 <@dc0de> a bit more organized. 07:44 <@Shadow404> i should goto the next one, but im gonna be on vacation 07:44 <@dc0de> 2600 or 404? 07:44 <@Shadow404> 2600 07:45 <@dc0de> ahh, you should come to the next dc404 meeting too 07:45 <@Shadow404> if i can 07:45 < dmcmorris_esi> what is the dc404? 07:45 <@dc0de> it's a defcon group... dc = defcon 07:45 <@Shadow404> dmcmorris_esi: do you remember any handles from the last 2600 meeting? 07:45 <@Shadow404> just curious who was still going 07:46 < dmcmorris_esi> Shadow404: I was seated at a table of 4... one was somebody I knew personally (don't think they are here), a friend of theirs (don't think they're here either), and "scooby" (who doesn't do IRC) 07:46 < dmcmorris_esi> I have no idea who was at the other table 07:47 <@Shadow404> hmm 07:47 <@Shadow404> i shuld go see for myself 07:47 <@Shadow404> i thought it was completely dead 07:47 <@Shadow404> havent been in over 1 1/2 years 07:47 <@dc0de> was a guy named Randall there? 07:47 < dmcmorris_esi> got me 07:47 <@Shadow404> since the last meetings were like 2 people 07:47 < dmcmorris_esi> I was pretty much "clique"-exclusive 07:47 <@Shadow404> heh 07:48 <@dc0de> randall is cool... and usually pretty open... 07:48 <@Shadow404> yeah 07:50 < dmcmorris_esi> DC404... third saturday at Vortex? 07:54 <@dc0de> yes 07:55 < dmcmorris_esi> welp, guess I'll put it on my calendar and see what I can do ;) 07:55 <@dc0de> cool 07:56 < dmcmorris_esi> I guess I'll just show up at noon and wait until others get there? or is there actually a time? ;) 07:56 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:00 <@Dolemite> dmcmorris_esi : Is Scooby a black guy? 08:01 < dmcmorris_esi> Dolemite: no 08:01 <@Dolemite> Ok, so it's not ScoobyUGA that I used to know when I lived there 08:01 <@oddball> morning all 08:01 <@Dolemite> Real nice guy, it would have been nice to catch up 08:01 < dmcmorris_esi> morning oddball 08:02 < dmcmorris_esi> this here was a nice guy too... he said "call be scooby or pacman" 08:02 <@Dolemite> Morning, (2n+1)ball 08:02 <@oddball> Oh, and I witnessed 4 cars in a row run a stop sign in a school zone while the crossing gaurd wasn't looking. 08:07 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 08:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 08:13 -!- Curbob [n=curbob@216.79.143.69] has joined #se2600 08:14 -!- dc0de_ [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de_] by ChanServ 08:16 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:32 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 08:55 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:58 <@aestetix> Anyone here familiar with RSACON? 09:02 <@Dolemite> I've heard of it 09:02 <@Dolemite> that's about the extent 09:03 <@aestetix> I've seen at least three news reports about the DHS talk 09:05 <@dc0de_> there are several ppl from my company at RSA now. 09:05 <@aestetix> dc0de_: what are the advantages of going? 09:05 <@aestetix> I'm looking through the talk list and listening to one right now.... it seems to be a media showcase, rather than a technical conference. 09:06 <@dc0de_> you get to spend a bunch of $$, and listening to a bunch of people 09:06 <@Dolemite> ISC was in Vegas last week 09:06 <@Dolemite> it's mostly physical security, though, as opposed to crypto 09:06 <@aestetix> ISC is, or RSA? 09:06 <@Dolemite> ISC 09:06 <@dc0de_> aestetix; the RSA conference this year is a bunch of vendors... 09:06 <@aestetix> On the other hand.... there was a crypto panel with Rivest and Diffie... 09:06 <@dc0de_> touting their wares. 09:07 <@aestetix> Ok, that's what I suspected. 09:07 <@Dolemite> I met Diffie when I was at Sun 09:07 <@aestetix> I'm listening to the DHS keynote right now, just to see where all these news stories came from. 09:07 <@aestetix> I met Diffie at the NSA conference. 09:07 <@aestetix> He is one badass mofo. 09:07 <@Dolemite> His hair made critch's (before he cut it) look tame 09:07 <@dc0de_> yeah, diffie is interesting. 09:07 <@aestetix> He cut it? 09:07 <@aestetix> Fuck how long was it before? 09:08 <@Dolemite> critch cut his hair last year 09:08 <@Dolemite> you didn't notice him at PN with short hair? 09:08 <@aestetix> oh wait 09:08 <@aestetix> before critch cut it 09:08 <@aestetix> I thought you were talking about Diffie 09:08 <@Dolemite> I was talking about both of them 09:08 <@Dolemite> :P 09:08 <@aestetix> lolz 09:09 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:13 <@aestetix> yeah I just tuned into Diffie's webcast 09:13 <@aestetix> leaps and bounds better than the DHS bullshit 09:16 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 09:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 09:27 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.40] has joined #se2600 09:27 < Neoteric> okay 09:27 < Neoteric> monkeys 09:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 09:33 * Shadow404 throws a banana at Neoteric 09:36 <@someninjaserver> morning all 09:36 < dmcmorris_esi> it is indeed 09:37 <@someninjaserver> whats up neoteric 09:37 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 09:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v MaxieZ] by ChanServ 09:47 <@Neoteric> there's a town called 'bird-in-hand' PA 09:48 <@Neoteric> I wonder if there's a 'two-in-the-bush' somewhere 09:48 <@Dolemite> it's the secret name for Kennebunkport, ME 09:51 <@Neoteric> hehehhee 09:52 <@Neoteric> there's a sweet restaurant in kennebunk that bush sr. likes to eat at 09:57 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:57 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has joined #se2600 10:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 10:15 <@Shadow404> sfw: http://www.rofl.to/awesome-skittles-commercial 10:20 <@SkyDog_> Morning all. 10:20 * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 10:20 <@Dolemite> w00f 10:21 <@Shadow404> meow 10:21 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : You gonna eat lunch with me today or are you still coming up with fake "I'm working" excuses? ;) 10:21 < dmcmorris_esi> splurt 10:21 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 10:21 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 10:23 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: fake? Some of us don't get to go sit in meetings and fumble with our... phone under the table... 10:23 <@SkyDog_> Some of us do a little work here and there. 10:23 <@SkyDog_> I've got my first group on the PRSA server, and I've been working to clean things up a bit. 10:23 <@SkyDog_> and I MIGHT grace you with my presence for lunch, IF you quit being a whiner about it. 10:23 <@SkyDog_> how's that? 10:23 <@someninjaserver> haha 10:23 <@Dolemite> screw you, hippie 10:23 <@SkyDog_> heh! 10:24 <@aestetix> Someone wants a nooner. 10:24 <@Dolemite> I'm not telling you when I go to lunch then 10:24 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Isn't it the same time everyday, when Richard goes? :) 10:24 <@Dolemite> Oh, I never got to tell you about the Apocalypse 10:24 <@Dolemite> I saw Richard talking to... 10:24 <@Dolemite> a GIRL 10:25 <@SkyDog_> AUGHHHH!!!!NOOOOO!!!! 10:25 <@SkyDog_> was he asking for tips on walking in heels? 10:25 <@Dolemite> He was looking pretty comfortable and confident, too 10:25 <@Dolemite> He was big pimpin' 10:25 <@Dolemite> She was hanging on his every word 10:25 <@SkyDog_> Hmmm. She's got a brother. that's it. 10:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh 10:25 <@Dolemite> She may have been born a boy 10:25 <@SkyDog_> I have a picture of him sleeping on one of those curved chaise lounges outside of the commons. 10:29 < ware> h0 sn4ple 10:33 <@aestetix> And the IQ of the channel drops ten points. 10:36 < ware> aestetix: dun make me work you like a puppet again, i just got up 10:38 <@aestetix> Only your mom can do that. 10:39 -!- opfor [n=opfor@24.179.66.197] has joined #se2600 10:40 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-155-216-230.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 10:40 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-157-126-16.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 10:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 10:44 <@SkyDog_> muhahah! My Mug of VI finally came in handy! 10:44 <@ladymerlin> hehe 10:44 <@SkyDog_> http://www.nostarch.com/ 10:44 <@SkyDog_> http://www.nostarch.com/mug_big.htm 10:45 <@Dolemite> Hrmm. I dunna see any changes on the PhreakNIC website. 10:45 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 10:46 <@SkyDog_> YOu are correct. I got stuck working with the array until 12 last night. 10:47 <@SkyDog_> I had already setup a folder and looked at teh redirect yesterday. 11:01 -!- tech404 [n=evan@unaffiliated/tech404] has joined #se2600 11:19 -!- timoguin [n=timoguin@adsl-074-185-105-083.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 11:24 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:24 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has joined #se2600 11:26 -!- timoguin [n=timoguin@adsl-074-185-105-083.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 11:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o timoguin] by ChanServ 11:30 -!- tech404 [n=evan@unaffiliated/tech404] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:30 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:32 -!- tech404 [i=evan@gateway/tor/x-2aea235c2a8363b2] has joined #se2600 11:32 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.190.33] has joined #se2600 11:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Feltenix] by ChanServ 11:40 < R3d2Dawn> any windows guru online? 11:41 <@oddball> I think it's better to just ask your question. 11:43 <@Evilpig> and get ridiculed for asking a question about windows 11:45 * R3d2Dawn zipppp 11:45 < R3d2Dawn> Who said anything about windows...not me :) 11:56 -!- R3d2Dawn was kicked from #se2600 by someninjaserver [windows user burn him] 11:56 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 11:59 <@oddball> So... you got a question or not? 12:00 <@dc0de_> R3d2Dawn; what do you need? 12:01 <@Evilpig> he has no question or he would have already asked it. he was just looking for windows users for some linux people to recruit to microsoft 12:01 <@Evilpig> oh wow that made no sense 12:01 < R3d2Dawn> Yeah, was wondering if anyone knows how to add stuff to the context menus 12:01 <@Evilpig> regedit 12:01 <@dc0de_> in "which" context menus? 12:01 <@brimstone> superglue and a rubberband ball 12:02 < R3d2Dawn> for the right clik context of files and folders 12:02 <@dc0de_> see Evilpig's response 12:03 <@Evilpig> much easier to add them to CDs and such. but if you want file ones you have to registry dive 12:04 < R3d2Dawn> and hell not about converting to MS, I am switching my system to linux, I am complete fed up with MS shit.... 12:06 -!- ziplock [n=ziplock@pdpc/supporter/active/ziplock] has joined #se2600 12:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ziplock] by ChanServ 12:07 <@rattle> I just got awesome news. The Black Clouds are going to be playing at the Prudential Center tonight before the Rangers/Devils playoff game. 12:07 <@rattle> That's a big audience. 12:07 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving."] 12:07 <@dc0de_> I guess that's good. 12:07 <@rattle> That's really good. 12:07 <@dc0de_> cool then. 12:10 <@oddball> Oh yeah... The Preds and the Wings are facing each other in the first round. Well, at least they both can't be knocked out in the first round this time. 12:10 <@dc0de_> !minicity 12:10 <@dc0de_> brimstone; you fail 12:13 <@SkyDog_> Ok, the motherfarkin' PN site is updated... 12:13 <@SkyDog_> and I am going to lunch. 12:13 <@brimstone> i changed servers i irc from 12:14 <@brimstone> guess i didn't copy that script over 12:14 <@dc0de_> doh 12:15 <@brimstone> try again 12:15 <@brimstone> Population: 25926 Revenues: 6042950 Unemployment: 1% Transports: 99% Criminality: 1% Pollution: 0% 7315 ahead of beltegueuse 12:15 <@brimstone> there, should work 12:15 <@dc0de_> !minicity 12:15 <@brimstone> Population: 25926 Revenues: 6042950 Unemployment: 1% Transports: 99% Criminality: 1% Pollution: 0% 7315 ahead of beltegueuse 12:16 <@dc0de_> cool 12:23 <@Jagobah> lots of cool stuff going on in here 12:25 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/temp/wow/whitecock.jpg 12:25 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/temp/wow/bear.jpg 12:50 <@dc0de_> Dagmar; zivity rocks! 12:55 <@Shadow404> SkyDog_: head cook and bottle washer? 13:04 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 13:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 13:12 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:15 <@SkyDog_> Shadow404: Never heard of that before? 13:17 <@Shadow404> on your open letter 13:20 <@Dolemite> ware : I have a new stop-smoking scheme for you 13:20 <@Dolemite> It's bound to work 13:21 * dc0de_ has to hear this... 13:21 <@Shadow404> if he doesnt stop, he has to sleep with corydon? 13:21 <@Dolemite> for each cigarette you smoke in a day, Corydon gets to advance one "base" with you... so if you smoke 4 again, he gets a home run with you. Smoke 8 and he gets two. 13:21 <@Shadow404> lawl 13:21 <@Shadow404> i was right 13:22 <@dc0de_> nice. 13:22 <@Dolemite> Or better yet, after 4 he gets to invite a friend to join in 13:22 <@Dolemite> Smoke 8 and you'll be airtight 13:22 <@Shadow404> awwww 13:22 <@Shadow404> so wrong 13:22 <@dc0de_> imagine it... he smokes a carton, and smokes the whole town! 13:22 <@SkyDog_> ick. 13:23 <@Shadow404> SkyDog_: its below your signature on the phreaknic page 13:23 <@Shadow404> on the open letter 13:23 <@Shadow404> -Skydog 13:23 <@Dolemite> He knows, you idiot 13:23 <@Shadow404> President, Nashville 2600 13:23 <@Dolemite> he put it there 13:24 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: 20:15 Shadow404: Never heard of that before? 13:24 <@Dolemite> Yes, you see that curly thing at the end? 13:24 <@Dolemite> It's called a question mark 13:24 <@Shadow404> so i was explaining where i saw it 13:25 <@Dolemite> He's asking if you're so insultated from reality that you'd never heard that expression before. 13:25 <@Shadow404> its called answering a culry thing 13:25 <@Dolemite> Had he been stating that HE had never heard that before, it would have been a period. 13:25 <@Shadow404> gar, ok 13:26 <@Dolemite> Apparently the educational system in Georgia is even worse off than we thought. 13:26 <@Shadow404> i read it wrong 13:26 <@Shadow404> heh 13:26 <@someninjaserver> i wasn't aware there was one 13:26 <@Dolemite> someninjaserver++ 13:26 <@Shadow404> our educational system is more like a daycare 13:26 <@Shadow404> tis sad 13:27 <@Dolemite> Ok, so that confirms my theory that you weren't potty trained until you were in your teens. 13:27 <@Shadow404> heh 13:29 <@Shadow404> this is one kickass program for server monitoring: http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/ 13:29 <@Neoteric> the girlish laughter doesn't aid your case good sir. 13:29 <@Shadow404> and its free 13:30 <@critch> Shadow404: how can it be all that kickass if it only runs on windows? 13:30 <@Shadow404> set it up to IM or email me if anything doesnt check out on an update 13:31 <@Shadow404> well, one of my computers at work is a windows box, so that doesnt hurt me 13:31 <@Shadow404> the other is ubuntu 13:31 <@critch> Shadow404: check out hyperic, it does require installing agents, but it is also cross platform and can ping you anyway you want 13:31 <@Shadow404> heh 13:31 <@Dolemite> or nagios 13:32 <@critch> I get emailed or sms messaged when there are problems depending on how important the error is 13:32 <@Dolemite> unfortunately Hyperic doesn't know jack shit about VM's unless you get a commercial license 13:32 <@Dolemite> and the top one, at that 13:32 <@critch> BULLSHIT 13:32 <@critch> the OSS version has plugins for vmware 13:32 <@Dolemite> According to their documentation that's the case 13:33 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: can you create a web output of the status of your vms? 13:33 -!- tech404 [i=evan@gateway/tor/x-2aea235c2a8363b2] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:34 <@Dolemite> I have a script that I wrote that polls each ESX server and gets the current status of each VM 13:34 <@critch> Dolemite: where is it in their documentation, looking right now. 13:34 <@Dolemite> since we use DRS and VMotion, it changes on a somewhat regular basis 13:34 <@Shadow404> if so, you can have it search the output for keywords and alert based on that 13:34 -!- tech404 [i=evan@gateway/tor/x-83ec4a5bdf203f11] has joined #se2600 13:35 <@Dolemite> critch : Oops, my bad. I was thinking of ZenOSS. 13:35 <@critch> okay, cool 13:35 <@Shadow404> i have it checking my servers via ping and also checking the servers are up by looking for a keyword, i embedded into the page 13:36 <@critch> Shadow404: hmm, I have hyperic looking at apache scoreboard to verify apache is up. 13:36 <@Shadow404> yeah, same idea 13:36 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I have SNMP telling me the status of each VM. 13:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Ping isn't the greatest for checking on Linux servers... 13:36 <@SkyDog_> Well, my dad can kick your dad's ass. 13:37 <@Shadow404> my kid can beat up your kid 13:37 <@Corydon76-dig> You can halt the kernel, and it will still respond to pings 13:37 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: thats why we filter for keywords on the output 13:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: when did you reproduce? 13:37 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: ..... 13:37 <@Shadow404> not yet 13:37 <@Dolemite> Yeah, well, I have 8 network monkeys checking the servers and they call me when something goes wrong. 13:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Thank god 13:37 <@Shadow404> heh 13:37 <@Shadow404> Dolemite: what do u feed them? 13:38 <@Dolemite> Shadow404 : Money 13:38 <@Shadow404> not bananas? 13:38 <@Shadow404> i heard monkey are good at running cable 13:56 < sdodson> Anyone here able to do an nmap for me? 13:59 <@Shadow404> yeah, go ahead 13:59 <@Shadow404> got the ip info 13:59 <@Shadow404> running now 14:07 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 14:11 -!- ziplock [n=ziplock@pdpc/supporter/active/ziplock] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:11 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 14:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 14:14 <@aestetix> christ 14:14 <@aestetix> I hate Indians 14:14 <@aestetix> I fucking hate them 14:14 <@aestetix> why can't we work with americans?!? 14:15 * Shadow404 throws tomahawk at aestetix's skull 14:16 <@Shadow404> the people from india do have attitude issues 14:16 <@Shadow404> thats true 14:16 <@aestetix> no 14:16 <@aestetix> they have intelligence issues 14:16 <@Shadow404> well, most do, but not all 14:20 -!- Curbob [n=curbob@216.79.143.69] has quit [] 14:20 < sdodson> that's not nice 14:22 <@aestetix> sdodson: if you had my last couple of days you'd have a hard time being nice too 14:25 < sdodson> ahw, what's up? 14:26 <@aestetix> Ok, technical stuff isn't that hard. 14:26 <@aestetix> Manipulating HTTP traffic, cloning session IDs, etc 14:27 <@rattle> aestetix: Shhhhh!!! Don't say such things. If people actually knew that technology wasn't so hard, we wouldn't get paid nearly as much. 14:27 <@aestetix> The scope is the hard part. Like when they give you a list of 10 addresses to test, and then say none of them are in scope but the scope is an address sent in an email ten years ago. 14:27 <@aestetix> Of course, I don't learn about this until the report has been submitted. 14:27 <@Shadow404> yeah, thats them 14:27 <@aestetix> Oh, and this is also after spending two days getting a VPN to work because of a gay-ass firewall issue. 14:28 <@aestetix> The actual test part takes like ten seconds. 14:32 -!- ziplock [n=ziplock@pdpc/supporter/active/ziplock] has joined #se2600 14:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ziplock] by ChanServ 14:35 <@aestetix> Stress is basically unguided energy. 14:35 <@aestetix> I have a task, and I can't figure out how to do it. Or I know what I want to do, but there's a barrier in my way. 14:36 <@aestetix> In this case, I know exactly how to do this shit, but there are ten little indians building a little "fuck you" fortress between me and the task. 14:46 <@aestetix> I just realized: the phone book is a one time pad, isn't it. 14:49 -!- tech404 [i=evan@gateway/tor/x-83ec4a5bdf203f11] has quit [Client Quit] 14:54 <@dc0de_> aestetix; only if you both have a copy of the same book 14:59 -!- eryc [n=eric@gibson.mirrorshades.net] has joined #se2600 15:03 < eryc> shutup 15:03 <@dc0de_> dammit 15:04 <@dc0de_> anyone have MSDN access that they can share? I need the Windows Services for UNIX version 3.0 CD for windows 2003 15:04 < dmcmorris_esi> I thought you could download it.... 15:04 <@dc0de_> ooh, lemme look. 15:05 < eryc> Windows SFU 3.0 15:05 < dmcmorris_esi> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=896C9688-601B-44F1-81A4-02878FF11778&displaylang=en 15:05 < dmcmorris_esi> (via http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=896C9688-601B-44F1-81A4-02878FF11778&displaylang=en) 15:05 <@dc0de_> sweet, thanks. 15:05 < eryc> thats quite the redirect 15:05 <@dc0de_> via Laos, Cambodia and Thailand! 15:05 < dmcmorris_esi> via http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/interopmigration/bb380242.aspx 15:06 < eryc> all ur bufferz belong to me! 15:06 < dmcmorris_esi> slow clipboard 15:06 <@dc0de_> ~minilink 15:06 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/microsoft.com/ZIjlk.aspx 15:06 < dmcmorris_esi> get your hands off my bufferz! 15:06 < eryc> they feel so good 15:06 * eryc buries his face in the bufferz 15:07 * dmcmorris_esi flatulates 15:08 < sdodson> They have MSDN subscriptions that yo may share? 15:09 <@dc0de_> sdodson; sure, you just create a "general" hotmail account, and set the password to 'password' 15:09 <@dc0de_> I didn't say it was "legal" 15:10 <@Dolemite> s/legal/ethical 15:10 < ware> wee 15:10 < ware> out in crossville 15:10 < ware> and i saw the FSM on the courthouse lawn 15:10 <@dc0de_> Dolemite; for my lab box? I don't care 15:10 <@Dolemite> ware : You see my idea to get you to stop smoking? 15:10 < ware> gonna go take a pic of it 15:11 < ware> have not, just fixed the winsock lsp on this pos box so ive not had inet 15:11 < ware> !google flying spaghetti monster crossville tn 15:11 < imhere2plzu> http://www.crossville-chronicle.com/archivesearch/local_story_084161126.html 15:12 < ware> lol@loaded bases idea 15:12 < ware> bbiab 15:13 <@dc0de_> ware; you should buy the domain, crossville-chronic.com 15:14 < eryc> then put up a fake news site and wait for the C&D 15:14 <@dc0de_> nah, just put up a site about dope smoking in Crossville 15:23 -!- ziplock [n=ziplock@pdpc/supporter/active/ziplock] has left #se2600 [] 15:25 <@timoguin> werd 15:25 <@timoguin> playing with my mac mini 15:25 <@someninjaserver> macminis ftw 15:25 <@someninjaserver> it was my first mac 15:25 <@someninjaserver> and still is my webserver 15:26 <@timoguin> okay so the keyboard mappings are weird since i'm using a windows keyboard 15:27 <@timoguin> the imacs at school have dashboard setup when you press the scroll button 15:28 <@timoguin> and the scale window switcher when you press the sides 15:28 <@timoguin> how do i set that up? 15:28 <@someninjaserver> sys preferences keyboard and mouse 15:31 < ware> timoguin: sahweet 15:31 < ware> all the newegg stuff came? 15:32 < ware> im gone to take a pic with the flyin spaghetti monster! 15:32 < ware> bbl 15:32 <@timoguin> all but a thing or two that's coming tomorrow 15:37 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 15:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 16:00 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 16:47 -!- unixfag [i=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:51 -!- MudFlap [n=MudFlap@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 16:53 <@Neoteric> anyone got a copy of EnCase 4.x (which ever doesn't need the dongle)? 16:58 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has left #se2600 [] 17:03 <@Neoteric> I suppose not 17:03 <@Neoteric> what is irc if not to xchange warez? 17:06 <@brimstone> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnCase#Countermeasures 17:06 <@brimstone> interesting concept 17:06 <@brimstone> leave an exploit for when the run forensics on your box 17:12 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-157-126-16.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [""If the hideous monster Frankenstein came face to face with the monster [marihuana] he would drop dead of fright." -Harry J. ] 17:19 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-157-126-16.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 17:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 17:32 < AstralSin> neat, www.instalinux.com 17:32 < AstralSin> builds an iso that autoinstalls 17:32 < AstralSin> customized iso, that i 17:32 < AstralSin> is* 17:32 <@brimstone> like conary? 17:32 <@brimstone> conary and rpath? 17:32 < AstralSin> never used conary 17:32 < AstralSin> it uses kickstart for the centos one 17:32 <@brimstone> rbuilder might be their site 17:33 * AstralSin checks that out 17:33 < AstralSin> doesn't foresight use conary? 17:33 <@brimstone> yup 17:33 < AstralSin> i was never able to get it installed for some reason 17:33 <@brimstone> foresight spun off the rpath guys, pretty sure 17:33 < AstralSin> oh no, this is different than rbuilder 17:34 <@brimstone> yeah, but same concept? 17:34 < AstralSin> well, maybe not, rbuilder might let you do the same thing 17:34 < AstralSin> yeah same concept 17:34 < AstralSin> there's another one out there too but its not as good 17:34 <@brimstone> ah 17:35 < AstralSin> is rbuilder web based/ 17:35 < AstralSin> ? 17:35 <@brimstone> yup 17:35 <@brimstone> sign in, etc 17:35 <@brimstone> http://www.rpath.org/rbuilder/project/asterisk/ 17:35 < AstralSin> ah 17:35 <@brimstone> on of our projcets 17:36 < AstralSin> ah cool 17:36 < AstralSin> ive always wanted to build my own distro but never found the time to learn how to do it properly 17:36 <@brimstone> it's all about package manager? 17:36 < AstralSin> tried LFS and cooking up some slack but got too busy to complete either 17:37 <@brimstone> no ? in there 17:38 <@nachoguy> brimstone, rpath/rbuilder is a digium creation? 17:38 <@brimstone> no, asterisknow is 17:38 <@brimstone> and they use rbuilder for asterisknow 17:44 <@nachoguy> do you have a personal feeling for or against it? 17:45 <@nachoguy> I'm mildly against it, as I'd like to be able to just compile my own into .debs (I can't seem to get libpri and zaptel to do that properly). I am however getting to the "fuckitall" point and going with it 17:45 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["ClickBOOM."] 17:46 <@nachoguy> err, thinking about going with it 17:50 <@brimstone> i don't like conary 17:50 <@brimstone> it's got potential, but it's not there yet 17:53 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 17:56 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: why don't you join us for the training in 2 weeks? 17:56 <@brimstone> finals 17:56 <@Corydon76-dig> ouch 17:56 <@nachoguy> "join us"? Is this some sort of brainwashing? 17:56 <@nachoguy> => 17:56 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 17:57 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: rPath training. Might as well be. 17:59 < R3d2Dawn> how many think this is a good idea? http://www.im-history.com/ 18:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Goes to show that the dot-com boom isn't over 18:04 < ware> timoguin: ping 18:04 < ware> on a call atm 18:06 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.13/2008031114]"] 18:10 < ware> anyone have an excel spreadsheet they use for a budget? 18:10 < ware> i kinda wanted to see how other people are doing it 18:11 <@dc0de_> ware; I use a finance tracking software for that. 18:12 < ware> i dont need something advanced to start out 18:12 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.40] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:34 <@dc0de_> heh... I'm still in the top 15% of wigle.net uploaders, even tho' I haven't uploaded a single AP since 2006. 19:08 <@nachoguy> gah! 19:11 <@nachoguy> MEMBERINTERFACE is the ender of worlds 19:11 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 19:11 <@sasquatc4> but who doesnt like a good memberinterface 19:15 <@nachoguy> I'd like it if it goddamned existed 19:15 <@nachoguy> it's a myth 19:16 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 19:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 19:25 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@atlanta.national-net.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:36 < eryc> http://images.craigslist.org/0101070102060103002008040856f8e55ef01646397f00a8b3.jpg 19:36 -!- R3d2Daw1 [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 19:40 < sdodson> dc0de_: Why do you need MSFT stuff anyway? 19:40 < sdodson> ARRRRPATH! 19:40 < sdodson> Corydon76-dig: you guys going to be in raleigh or is rpath coming to you? 19:41 <@Corydon76-dig> They're coming to HSV for a week 19:42 -!- R3d2Daw1 [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:42 <@Corydon76-dig> and hence, I get to spend a week in a hotel room 19:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Whoopee 19:42 <@dc0de_> sdodson; for my work lab... 19:45 < sdodson> Why though? 19:46 < ware> weee. 19:48 <@dasunt> Why does the paleothic diet assume that humans had no exposure to grain? 19:48 < sdodson> WHY DO YOU ASK SUCH STUFF? 19:48 < sdodson> SILLY VEGAN! 19:49 <@brimstone> vegan vegan vegan vegan 19:49 <@brimstone> who's a vegan? 19:49 <@dasunt> I am. 19:49 < sdodson> SHHH DON'T SCARE EM 19:49 <@brimstone> and who's fault is that? 19:49 <@dasunt> Someone was bringing up the idea of a high meat diet, saying humans didn't consume grain before farming. 19:50 <@dasunt> I've gone wild ricing. That isn't domesticated. It doesn't require planting. 19:50 <@dc0de_> the swedes have designed a radar tipped round that is subjected to 60,000 G forces. 19:50 <@dasunt> It seems to be a good source of calories. 19:50 <@dc0de_> discovery channel.. mark 110 naval gun. 19:50 <@brimstone> wild rice? 19:50 <@dc0de_> friggin sweet. 19:50 <@brimstone> do you grow your own dasunt? 19:50 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 19:51 <@brimstone> i'd love to become self-suffiecient, but i like the city too much 19:51 <@brimstone> sufficient? 19:51 < sdodson> vertical land scaping 19:52 < sdodson> brimstone is a hipster? 19:54 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:54 < ware> i saw the noodley appendages in crossville today 19:55 < ware> and i did let them touch me 19:55 -!- timoguin [n=timoguin@adsl-074-185-105-083.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:56 <@dasunt> brimstone: You don't have to grow wild rice. 19:56 < eryc> did you smoke him out with crossvile chronic 19:56 <@dasunt> All you do is go out in a canoe and beat it with a stick. 19:56 < eryc> thats what she said 20:00 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@adsl-074-244-039-095.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 20:00 <@dasunt> Found a reference that dates grain consumption to 23,000 yearsr ago. 20:00 -!- MaxieZ [n=MaxieZ@adsl-074-244-039-095.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:01 <@brimstone> i can't pilot my canoe very well in the city, and i don't think there's wild rice that grows around here anyway 20:06 <@brimstone> huh, the brady bunch father was gay 20:07 <@mtown_nerd> lol 20:07 <@mtown_nerd> Yes, he was. 20:07 < ware> lies 20:19 * nachoguy is getting stabbity 20:20 <@Dementia> hi nachoguy 20:20 <@nachoguy> Hey Dem 20:20 <@nachoguy> how goes? 20:20 <@Dementia> not too bad 20:21 <@nachoguy> How's the weather? I Haven't been outside in the past 12 hours 20:21 <@nachoguy> I looked rainy thismorning 20:21 <@nachoguy> eer, it 20:26 < AstralSin> wow, the beer i just had is great but it tastes like sweet relish 20:26 < AstralSin> quite interesting 20:27 <@nachoguy> ok, I think I'm going to start foaming at the mouth 20:27 <@nachoguy> I am fairly certain that asterisk is the path to madness 20:27 < AstralSin> hah 20:27 < eryc> freeswitch? 20:28 <@nachoguy> and I am skipping my way a a good pace 20:28 <@nachoguy> eryc, nah, I want it to work 20:28 < eryc> but it was on Digg 20:28 <@nachoguy> s/ a a / at a / 20:28 <@nachoguy> eryc, so is child pr0n and scientology crap 20:30 <@nachoguy> Digg doesn't mean that something is right, it just means that something exists 20:30 -!- aestetix [n=aestetix@md2600.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:30 < eryc> and it compiles cleanly on solaris 20:30 < eryc> unlike astercrap 20:31 <@nachoguy> eryc, after it compiles cleanly on asterisk, does it do anything useful? 20:31 <@nachoguy> last I heard, all functionality was to be implemented with modules. And no modules were considered stable. 20:31 < eryc> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Greenfield/?p=214 20:32 < eryc> "Routinely my freeswitch routing servers reach > 400 sessions Per Second (where they are rated limited) and > 4000 concurrent Sessions (where they are also limited) with approx 20% CPU utilization and 30% ram utilization on a Dell 1950 w/ Dual Xeon E5335 2Ghz Quad Core CPUs and 4G of ram" Any SPS and Concurrency limiting is done not to protect my boxes but upstream peers I have had atleast 3 occations where Large Tier 1 / Tier 2 Intl and Domestic US LD 20:32 <@brimstone> isn't freeswitch done in perl? 20:33 <@brimstone> or was that something else? 20:34 < eryc> comments from digg: 20:34 < eryc> Congratulations on RC1! A couple programmers in my office are developing a VOIP solution with FreeSwitch and it is really amazing. In just a couple weeks they've setup a complete phone system (with features most offices only dream about), and integrated nearly every aspect of the system into our web based software. Open source FTW! 20:34 < sdodson> I heard brimstone was written in perl. 20:34 < eryc> I've used it heavily and it rocks compared to Asterisk. I've got it running 12 phones in my office right now. The learning curve from Asterisk to FreeSwitch wasn't too bad, and freeswitch runs great on osx, windows, and linux.. where Asterisk only ran on linux. 20:35 <@nachoguy> yeah, I might bring in freeswitch as a call routing machine, but until I can cram all of the functionality from asterisk in to it and get some sort of guarantee that they won't fold up or go insane like the trixbox guys, it's cute, it may even be functional, but it isn't for me 20:35 < eryc> any my favorite: 20:35 < eryc> Built a load test platform to drive an IVR app in a day and half. Replaced similar system running on 7 boxes built with sipp ( streaming rtp ) and asterisk ( answering B leg call ) with 2 using FS. Scalability is unparalleled. 20:35 <@brimstone> sdodson: combination of perl and awk 20:35 <@nachoguy> wait, you had 7 asterisk machines to load test and IVR? 20:35 <@nachoguy> s/and/an/ 20:36 < eryc> freeswitch-1.0.rc2]# find . -name *.c | wc -l 2231 20:36 <@brimstone> there's better tools for that i'd imagine 20:36 <@nachoguy> we did it with one asterisk machine 20:36 <@nachoguy> and we did it not just for IVR but also queues 20:37 <@nachoguy> we had "clients" call in and talk to "agents" 20:37 <@nachoguy> we ran something like 400 concurrent sessions on an old dual cpu 1 gig box 20:37 < eryc> is that alot? 20:38 <@brimstone> you should know, you're quoting stats 20:38 <@nachoguy> 400 callers in a queue, on crap hardware, yeah, it's a bit 20:38 <@nachoguy> 400 calls is something, but 400 calls in a queue? There's overhead there 20:38 < eryc> i do know, and its not alot 20:39 * brimstone pins the label "troll" to eryc 20:39 <@nachoguy> brimstone, he's long had that label, but right now, he _may_ have a point 20:39 <@brimstone> hold on, let me go get some digg comments to backup my point 20:39 <@nachoguy> troll + relevant facts == useful information 20:39 <@nachoguy> heh 20:40 <@nachoguy> wow, I just went back and reread the stats you quoted 20:40 < eryc> i offered the digg comments in response to "wanting it to work" 20:41 < eryc> ive never used freeswitch but i have used sipp/asterisk and hated it 20:41 <@nachoguy> a machine with 8 cores and 4 gig of ram can run 4000 sessions. 20:41 <@nachoguy> it's an interesting stat, but it fails to mention if it is also handleing media 20:41 -!- mtown_nerd [n=jhester@fileserver.ghruaim.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:42 <@nachoguy> my guess, probably not, which puts it as a replacement for OpenSER, and not Asterisk 20:42 <@nachoguy> and speaking of which way madness lies, OpenSER configs do make my eyes cross 20:42 < eryc> well here's another digg comment, 20:42 < eryc> We've been using FreeSWITCH for a while now - it's a fantastic platform, and really puts Asterisk to shame in terms of scalability on the same hardware (often 10:1 /with/ media!).I know a lot of hard work went into it's architecture and development, by a talented and very dedicated bunch of guys, and my hat goes off to them. Many open source projects have floundered where there's has flourished. It's great to see it start getting some serious footprint 20:43 < eryc> btw i'm not saying digg comments are credible but i do think they are interesting 20:44 <@nachoguy> digg comments are worth less to me than the drunken hobos that yell for change 20:44 <@nachoguy> and trust me, I see a lot of hobos 20:44 < eryc> where else will you get the diggmirror.com link? 20:44 <@nachoguy> why do I want diggmirror? 20:44 < eryc> you dont want to miss the boobies! 20:45 <@nachoguy> meh, the internet is a network of connected pornography 20:45 <@nachoguy> I mean nipples, err nodes 20:45 <@nachoguy> so anyway 20:45 < eryc> you just need a joystick to navigate 20:46 <@nachoguy> freeswitch is on my radar, and it's something I might dick with at home when I get a chance, but the last time I had one of my guys evaluate it, we couldn't get the needed functionality out of it. 20:46 < sdodson> "Disclaimer, I work for EMC, though not in Clariion support, information below is my personal recommendations not EMCs." what a lengthy way to say absolutely nothing 20:46 < eryc> you have a clariion? 20:47 < eryc> me too! 20:47 < eryc> sdodson: what were his recommendations? 20:48 < sdodson> http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/833003030931/m/480006931931 20:48 < sdodson> No, I don't have a Clariion. 20:48 < sdodson> eryc: You want to provide storage advise? 20:49 < sdodson> I've got 16 disks, dual controller. 12 disks on one shelf 4 on the other. I'm going to be setting up some virtualized stuffz 20:50 < eryc> ok 20:51 < eryc> unfortunately im not a SME 20:51 * brimstone slices sdodson with an LVM 20:51 <@brimstone> ooh! i have pie in the other room 20:51 < sdodson> A pair of machines will be used for serving up ~ 60 virtualized lab environments. The work there will essentially be duplicating large vm images. The other work load will be prod stuff 20:51 < sdodson> Again, a pair of virtualized notes but in failover rather than completely filled. 20:52 < sdodson> Do I create raid groups for each cluster? do I create luns per virtualized host? 20:52 < eryc> vmware/ 20:52 < eryc> ? 20:52 < sdodson> xen 20:54 < eryc> when you say each cluster, you plan to have multiple pairs of machines? 20:54 < eryc> one lab one prod? 20:54 <@nachoguy> xen++ 20:54 < sdodson> Right, a pair for the prod. A pair for the lab. 20:54 < sdodson> prod will be N+1, lab will be N+0 20:56 < sdodson> my question is not directly related to that post btw 20:56 < sdodson> I'll be using IBM SAN. 20:56 < eryc> i'm not quite sure the optimal san design for virtual env 20:56 < eryc> i woudl have to think about it 20:56 < eryc> here is something else to read, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19571.html 20:57 <@nachoguy> brimstone, ever use perl with Asterisk::AGI ? 20:57 <@brimstone> yeah, but it's not worth it 20:58 <@brimstone> you can do all your AGI stuff in about 5 lines 20:59 <@nachoguy> brimstone, I'm trying to extract MEMBERINTERFACE. I finally got the damn thing quasi-working, I see that I retrieve the variable, but when I try to use it, it's gone 21:00 < eryc> also, http://servervirtualization.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/03/22/vmware-san-guide/ http://www.vmware.com/pdf/esx25_san_cfg.pdf 21:00 < eryc> i've never used Xen 21:01 <@nachoguy> at this point I think I've just been staring at tit too long 21:01 <@nachoguy> s/tit/it/ 21:01 < eryc> if i had to take a guess now i would say 1 raid group per cluster and either way for the luns 21:01 <@nachoguy> arg, it looks like I need to dereference the variable 21:02 < eryc> i would think 1 lun would be easier to manage than 60+ 21:02 < eryc> im not sure what Xen requires.. 21:02 <@nachoguy> I think I did it, and I've only lost 5 sanity points 21:03 < eryc> ..out of 10? 21:03 <@nachoguy> I think I started the day with 4 21:03 <@nachoguy> I buffer-underran a while ago 21:04 <@nachoguy> >status Sanity: -65534 21:05 -!- mtown_nerd [n=jhester@fileserver.ghruaim.net] has joined #se2600 21:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o mtown_nerd] by ChanServ 21:07 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-108.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 21:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 21:10 <@nachoguy> ok, speaking of lacking sanity, I'm trying to call and AGI from an AGI, and I've got the syntax wrong 21:10 <@nachoguy> apparently 21:11 <@nachoguy> pipe seperated arguements don't show up, and for comma seperated, it thinks that the comma is part of the filename 21:12 <@nachoguy> wait, I might need to be slightly more retarded 21:12 < sdodson> nachoguy sounds like an IT pimp 21:12 * nachoguy facedesks a couple of times to prepare for potential greatness 21:14 <@nachoguy> Epic fail! 21:14 <@nachoguy> Sdodson, some days I am 21:14 <@nachoguy> when i'm buying selling and renting people, that makes me a pimp right? 21:14 <@nachoguy> and when I buy, sell, and rent IT people, that makes me an IT pimp 21:15 < sdodson> Wha's the going rate? 21:15 <@nachoguy> depends on what you need 21:15 * nachoguy gets out the greed fedora with the purple feather and a pimpcane 21:15 <@nachoguy> I gots hoes in diff'runt area codes 21:16 <@nachoguy> s/greed/green/ 21:16 < sdodson> blue fedora! 21:18 <@nachoguy> them's not pimpin colors 21:28 -!- omegix [n=JC@76.73.237.206] has joined #se2600 21:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o omegix] by ChanServ 21:29 <@Mirage> what's up with youtube tonight? 21:32 < sdodson> I think I'm the only person alive that doesn't hit youtube atleast once every 24 hours. 21:32 <@someninjamaster> you broked it 21:32 <@brimstone> sdodson: i'm with ya 21:32 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I don't, either 21:36 <@Corydon76-dig> http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20080409/co_po/widelyusedgovernmenttextbookunderfireafterstudentraisesconcerns 21:37 <@brimstone> news.yahoo.com/whereweputsomuchinformationintheurlyoudontneedtoclickthearticle 21:44 <@Mirage> brimstone: bad link..=P 21:44 <@Mirage> heh 21:44 <@brimstone> and you ask what's wrong with youtube... 21:45 <@Mirage> You should have followed their format better so that it wasn't such an obvious farce 21:46 <@brimstone> http://news.yahoo.com/s/pow/20080401/kung_pow/whereweputsomuchinformationintheurlyoudontneedtoclickthearticle 21:47 <@Mirage> better..=) 21:47 <@Mirage> now, wait until tomorrow with more people awake and post that 21:48 -!- R3d2Dawn [n=R3d2Dawn@71-87-176-185.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:49 < R3d2Dawn> Well this is a whole new meaning to fine dining http://www.dinnerinthesky.com/ 21:49 < ware> yeah that was pretty cool 21:50 <@someninjamaster> wheres your spagetti monster pics 21:50 < ware> oh hang on 21:55 < ware> http://stonermoments.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=41315 21:58 <@mtown_nerd> lol Awww.... ware's so cuuuuute :P 21:58 < ware> http://stonermoments.org 21:58 < sdodson> I bought a small camera so i'd carry it with me but I never do. 21:58 < ware> dcc it to me 21:58 < ware> i need a digicam 21:59 < ware> off to hottub 22:01 <@mtown_nerd> yay hottubs! 22:03 < eryc> http://images.craigslist.org/0101070102060103002008040856f8e55ef01646397f00a8b3.jpg 22:03 < eryc> ^ my new hot tub 22:03 <@mtown_nerd> oOOOooo 22:03 <@mtown_nerd> Nice :D 22:03 < sdodson> wtf you make my neck hurt 22:04 < eryc> lolz 22:04 <@mtown_nerd> How many does that seat? 8? 22:04 < eryc> ya 8 girls at least 22:04 <@mtown_nerd> haha 22:05 <@brimstone> oh, that's a hottub! 22:05 <@brimstone> i thought it was a messed up microwave 22:05 < sdodson> brimstone: dude, wtf, me too 22:05 < eryc> http://images.craigslist.org/01010501160601040420080408bcff96a6f4f61b8c550050cb.jpg 22:05 <@brimstone> i see knobs on the right and think frozen meal 22:05 < eryc> thats one messed up microwave 22:06 < eryc> it just looks cozier in that pic :) 22:06 < sdodson> If those URLs were any longer I'd think you were uuencoding the image in the URL 22:06 <@brimstone> http://news.yahoo.com/s/pow/20080401/kung_pow/whereweputsomuchinformationintheurlyoudontneedtoclickthearticle 22:08 < eryc> it looks like a timestampe+date+md5(something) 22:08 < eryc> actually im not sure what the first part is 22:09 < eryc> but it does look pretty dumb 22:11 * sdodson removes brimstone from the list of people he blindly clicks on links from 22:11 <@brimstone> lol 22:16 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:35 <@mtown_nerd> If I'm looking at "top," and there's a process running (winserver) @ 7220 VIRT, 83% CPU, and 0% RAM...is that normal? :x 22:42 < sdodson> i've never heard of that process 22:46 -!- omegix [n=JC@76.73.237.206] has quit ["I quitz"] 23:04 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-108.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:15 < NotLarry> Well now, thats a fine mess 23:21 < sdodson> yup 23:22 * brimstone fights 23:22 <@brimstone> for his right 23:23 <@brimstone> to parrrrrrtttttyyyy!!! 23:23 < sdodson> sm: ppppg 23:23 < sdodson> halp basckspace is broken 23:32 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Thu Apr 10 00:00:15 2008