--- Log opened Sun Apr 06 00:00:00 2008
00:41 < R3d2Daw1> No we know the secret
00:41 < R3d2Daw1> http://www.bobx.com/cat-tae-kwon-do-knocks-out-boxer.jpg
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01:14 <@timoguin> someone learn me some mythtv sound problems.
01:14 <@timoguin> sound works as expected outside of mythtv when watching videos, recordings, etc.
01:15 <@timoguin> anything within mythtv doesn't work, no live sound, no sound during playback of recordings, etc.
01:28 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: is the volume turned all the way down or is mute on within MythTV?
01:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Mute key is backslash
01:29 <@Corydon76-dig> ] to turn volume up
02:14 <@dasunt> Meh.
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03:04 <@wontonjoe> yay for boredom
03:04 <@wontonjoe> but hay im gettin paid for it
03:13 <@timoguin> Corydon76-dig: neither of those keys seemed to have any affect.
03:13 <@timoguin> is there normally an OSD for it?
03:26 <@timoguin> so i have to have an output from my tuner to my sound cards input?
03:26 <@timoguin> i keep reading that.
03:27 <@timoguin> but i don't think that's the case since everything actually has sound when i use an external player
03:27 <@Corydon76-dig> If you have an ATI, yes
03:27 <@Corydon76-dig> If you have a Hauppauge, no
03:55 <@timoguin> it's a Hauppauge.
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05:59 <@Scotchick> morning all
06:29 <@Shadow404> meow
06:29  * Shadow404 knudges Scotchick hand
06:30  * Scotchick throws wet pussy at shadow404
06:30 <@Shadow404> heh, her paws got me all muddy
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07:13 <@dc0de> mr0nin
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08:23 <@dc0de> wheee...
08:23 <@dc0de> studying up on grouting...
08:24 < R3d2Daw1> I hated grouting
08:24  * dc0de has never done it... 
08:24 <@dc0de> so it's going to be a new experience
08:24 < R3d2Daw1> especially after the fact my XO use to make us change up between tile and grouting every other week
08:25 <@dc0de> your XO? you were a tile layer in the military?
08:25 < R3d2Daw1> no
08:26 < R3d2Daw1> Boatswain's Mate, US Nimitz CVN-68
08:26 < R3d2Daw1> XO = Executive Officer
08:27 < R3d2Daw1> 2nd in Command of the aircraft carrier
08:27 <@dc0de> I know what an XO is...
08:27 <@dc0de> I'm a Navy brat, who went thru AF ROTC, and spent 4 years in the Army.
08:28 <@dc0de> My dad is a plank owner on the USS Haddo SSN-604
08:28 < R3d2Daw1> I was somewhat of a military brat for awhile, until my dad put me up for adoption
08:29 <@dc0de> usshaddo.com
08:29 < R3d2Daw1> then I begged my adopptive parents to put me into military school
08:29 <@dc0de> My dad was the Sonarman.
08:29 < R3d2Daw1> cool
08:30 <@dc0de> check out this pic...
08:30 <@dc0de> http://www.usshaddo.com/images/Boat%20Photos/crewfish.jpg
08:30 <@dc0de> that was taken in Cuba.
08:30 <@dc0de> http://www.usshaddo.com/boat_photos.htm
08:31 < R3d2Daw1> I served a few years in Navy, but now I have considered going back, but Military has changed allot its all starting to turn more into a business like aspect than military, at least that was my experience
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08:32 <@dc0de> R3d2Daw1; it's definitely changed, but I still respect those who serve.
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08:32 < R3d2Daw1> I I do too
08:33 < R3d2Daw1> I guess when you grow up in it, you have more expectations
08:33 <@dc0de> one of my best friends is in Bogotá, on his third deployment.
08:34 < R3d2Daw1> why is my name showing up as R3d2Daw1?
08:35 < R3d2Daw1> its suppose to be R3d2Dawn
08:35 <@dc0de> because your name was in use when you signed on... and it took the next avail?
08:35 < R3d2Daw1> hmm..
08:36 <@dc0de> type "/nick R3d2Dawn"
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08:36 < R3d2Dawn> ok
08:36 <@dc0de> that simple
08:37 < R3d2Dawn> Now here is something concerning...when I do info on my name it shows Username: n=H4x0r@71-87-176-185.dhcp.......
08:37 < R3d2Dawn> umm
08:37 < R3d2Dawn> thats abit interesting
08:37 <@dc0de> how so?
08:38 < R3d2Dawn> the H4x0r part
08:38 < R3d2Dawn> don't know where that came from
08:38 <@dc0de> what irc client are you using?
08:38 < R3d2Dawn> I am using pidgin
08:38 <@dc0de> ok...
08:38 <@dc0de> hold
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08:40 <@dc0de> that must be the stuff you put into your account settings in pidgin
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08:40 < R3d2Dawn> well you would think so, but I don't have that anywhere
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08:43 < R3d2Dawn> well I was able to change it though by adding in a username
08:46 <@dc0de> cool... it must be some default, because my pidgin didn't to that... but all my shiz is filled in.
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08:47 < R3d2Dawn> I know i am using some plugins that are specific to irc
08:47 <@dc0de> cool... I have many installed, but don't really use pidgin for my IRC... it's just there in the event I need to route via TOR
08:48 < R3d2Dawn> one called IRC Helper, IRC More, and Irssi Features
08:50 <@dc0de> fzuck
08:50 < R3d2Dawn> ?
08:50 <@dc0de> I need some help with the mime/types of Linux.
08:50 <@dc0de> i double click on a PDF file that has a lower case extension, and I get an error
08:51 < R3d2Dawn> hmm
08:51 <@dc0de> the error reads,
08:51 <@dc0de> The filename "draft-SP800-64-Revision2.pdf" indicates that this file is of type "pdf document". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "PDF document". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
08:51 <@dc0de> if I change the extension to upper case, it works fine.
08:52 <@dc0de> ahh, found it... google is my friend.
08:52 < R3d2Dawn> yes it is
08:52 < R3d2Dawn> lol
08:52 < R3d2Dawn> so did you have to change the ext to all caps the entire file name?
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08:55 < ware> http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/crescentfresh/dani.html
08:55 <@dc0de> no, just the extension
08:56 <@dc0de> ware: sfw?
08:56 < ware> yea
08:58 <@oddball> ok, watching 6th Day... forgot the part where they have a helicopter stall out
08:59 <@dc0de> ware; you know what I want?
08:59 <@dc0de> oddball; I'm watching it too...
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08:59 < ware> dc0de: whats that
09:00 <@dc0de> treefiddy
09:00 < ware> hahaha
09:00 <@oddball> I know scifi flicks tend to bend reality a bit to make future tech work, but WTF.'
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09:01 <@dc0de> oddball; what?
09:01 <@dc0de> I don't see the problem.
09:02 <@oddball> lack of foward speed doesn't do jack shit to the flight capabilities of a helicopter
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09:03 <@oddball> and if the actual blades have lost thier lift capabilities.... either their not attached anymore or the engine shutdown... either way, your fucked.
09:03 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwatjHcV1ZM
09:03 <@dc0de> low rotational speed will stall rotor blades, as will speed that is too high...
09:03 < ware> ace of base on a sunday morning ftw
09:04 <@dc0de> which is why helicoptors cannot break the speed of sound, yet.
09:04 <@zip1ock> vertically?
09:04 <@zip1ock> hehe
09:04 <@dc0de> many helicopters will stall in vertical flight.
09:05 <@dc0de> while they may have lift on their forward moving blades, their rearward sectors will stall, causing the aircraft to become unstable and roll.
09:05 <@oddball> There's also the bit where they haven't figured out how to build rotors that can withstand the pressure. (hence no prop planes that break the speed barrier either)
09:05 <@dc0de> actually, they have done that oddball
09:05 <@oddball> really?
09:06 < ware> who was the guy at the meeting that was heading up NLUG now?
09:06 < ware> he had a nokia n800 phone that was awesome
09:06 <@dc0de> the british have a rotor who's tips break the sound barrier on their forward sweep.
09:07 <@dc0de> can't find the article tho'
09:07 <@oddball> right, but that's different than the entire craft breaking the speed barrier.
09:08 <@dc0de> it's not the strength of the blade, it's the harmonics of constantly having to shift from subsonic to supersonic airfoil shapes.
09:08 <@oddball> ok
09:08 <@dc0de> a subsonic blade is rounded, and a supersonic one is more like a stretched diamond shape.
09:09 <@dc0de> the british have a dual shaped blade, with a rounder (traditional) shape closer to the root, that moves out to a diamond shape at the tips...
09:10 <@dc0de> this allows the tips (which move through the air the fastest in forward sweep and forward flight) to actually break the sound barrier.
09:13 <@dc0de> current speed record holder is the Westland Lynx 800g
09:13 <@dc0de> http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=94
09:13 <@dc0de> you'll note in the photos the paddle looking extensions on the tips of the rotors. allowing the tips to go supersonic
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09:25 <@dc0de> grrr... this "pdf" vs. "PDF" mime/type issue is going to drive me insane.
09:27 < ware> thats poo garbage'
09:58 < R3d2Dawn> I would agree
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10:24 <@Stefanie_TN> Hey Oddball.
10:25 < ware>  
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10:41 <@Stefanie_TN> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080406/D8VSE49G0.html
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10:44 < oddball> I think all of these power outages have done bad things to my router :(
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12:51 < sdodson> Anyone see Google bidding on the C Block with apparently no intentions of buying to be quite underhanded?
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13:01 < sdodson> Didn't know about the clauses with respect to the reserve.
13:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, they wanted to be sure that the reserve was met to ensure open access
13:21 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm sure the telcos didn't quite like the open access requirements, but they also didn't want to give a leg up to a possible new competitor to the market, especially one that has so far been so successful
13:21 < sdodson> I guess that's admirable.
13:21 <@dc0de> phew, the first grout run is done...
13:21 < sdodson> But I don't like a company that's all "We're so fucking big we can just toss out 6 billion to make sure others pay"
13:21 < sdodson> you've got a case of gout?
13:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Can you imagine them letting Google own the spectrum, with the gamble that either Google fails or if Google succeeds, it will likely wipe out one of the telcos' main cash cows?
13:22 <@dc0de> no, I just finished the setting of the grout, and the sponge off...
13:22 <@dc0de> now it has to sit for 30 mins.
13:22 <@dc0de> and I wipe it again.
13:23 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I bid twice on the signed OZ4 card, not because I really wanted the card, but because I believe that the money goes towards a good thing.
13:24 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: do you also dislike me for having bid up the price?
13:31 < sdodson> Corydon76-dig: I don't think that's a valid comparison.
13:31 < sdodson> The signed OZ4 card isn't a resource.
13:33 <+coil> hi
13:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Only 2 were ever made, so it's a limited resource
13:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Are you saying Google would not have paid, had they won?
13:35 <@Corydon76-dig> What I'm hearing you say is that you don't like anybody who enters a bidding contest without the intention of bidding whatever it takes to win
13:35 < sdodson> Oz4 card is not something that's to be resold.
13:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Neither is the C block
13:36 < sdodson> That's true as well.
13:36 <@Corydon76-dig> C block is licensed for use, not resold
13:36 <+coil> hi
13:37 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: point is, everybody has a budget, even you
13:37 <@Corydon76-dig> even Google and the telcos
13:38 <@Corydon76-dig> The telcos probably don't want anybody outside of them to know what their budget is (because then you could know how much to bid to beat them), but they cannot bid an unlimited amount
13:39 < sdodson> You'd be patting MSFT on the back if they did the same stunt?
13:39 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: if they didn't win?
13:40 <@Corydon76-dig> We're talking pure market forces, here.
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13:48 <@dc0de> http://picasaweb.google.com/jnoble/UpstairsBathroom
13:49 <@dc0de> Now the grout is down... gotta let it sit... then wipe it again later... set the toilet, and seal it... for four days.... whee!
13:49 < dmcmorris_esi> There was a clause that, if the bidding exceeded X, the band would have Y added requirements.  Google ensured that it /would/ meet X so that the Open-ness ("Y") requirements were met.
13:49 < dmcmorris_esi> If Google'd won, they'd pay and they'd use it.  They didn't bid with the intent /not/ to pay....
13:50 < dmcmorris_esi> If Microsoft had lobbied for the open-ness requirements, and they had bid to ensure that the criteria for openness was met, then I would give them kudos also.
13:51 < dmcmorris_esi> I will admit that Google as made some "questionable" moves since going public (IMHO, although I can't cite examples at the moment)... however, this was one that was good IMHO...
13:51 < sdodson> My problem with it is that Id on't believe there was a genuine interest in use of the band on behalf of Google.
13:52 < sdodson> If they ended up with it I don't think it would be much more than a write down.
13:52 < sdodson> Sure they'd use it, but not really.
13:52 < dmcmorris_esi> I see where you're coming from
13:53 < sdodson> It's scary when there are organizations large enough to just play in the sandbox with no real loss to them.
13:53 < dmcmorris_esi> indeed
13:53 < sdodson> The outcome of this deal is positive.
13:54 < dmcmorris_esi> oh, definitely
13:54 < sdodson> dc0de: why are some of them orange and some of them not?
13:55 < dmcmorris_esi> back to "if Microsoft did this...".  I would probably honestly be much more negative about it (given their reputation of thinking they're above the rules)...
13:55 < sdodson> flash vs non flash
13:55 < sdodson> Are we sure Google is worthy of the trust we give them?
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13:56 < dmcmorris_esi> That's a good question
13:59 < dmcmorris_esi> I can say that Google's views and practices are, overall, aligned with my own, and as such I do, generally, trust them.
13:59 < dmcmorris_esi> However, I can recognize that Google does sometimes "force" others to play by their rules or get lost... (thinking about overseas, mostly)
13:59 < sdodson> like china?
14:01 < dmcmorris_esi> exactly
14:01 < dmcmorris_esi> China: "We have our way of doing things.  We like our way, and do not want to change".  Google: "Well, you can either do it my way or you can shut me out"
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14:39 <@dasunt> This is a weird, weird CD.
14:42 <@someninjamaster> afternoon all
14:43 <@tcstool> afternoon
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14:47 <@someninjamaster> whats up tcstool
14:50 < oddball> afternoon all
14:51 <@tcstool> Not much how about you?
14:52 <@someninjamaster> resting from all the work yesterday
14:54 <@Stefanie_TN> How long did you guys stay after I left?
14:55 <@someninjamaster> we left at about 8
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14:55 <@someninjamaster> we built the frame for the sink and started fiberglassing the backsplash
14:56 <@someninjamaster> and we got the weatherstriping for the front garage door
14:56 <@Stefanie_TN> Electricity is this week, right?
14:57 <@someninjamaster> should be from what i heard
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18:21 < sdodson> one moar assurance and i'm maxed.
18:26 <@ShadowHntr> cool
18:26 <@ShadowHntr> wanna assure me? :)
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18:55 <@brimstone> sdodson: make the gnome-keyring go away plz
18:55 <@brimstone> or at least make it keep up with my user's password
19:08 <@dasunt> We're measuring risk in proximity to nuclear power plants now?
19:19 <@ShadowHntr> dasunt: ?
19:20  * brimstone underlines ShadowHntr
19:20  * dc0de smallcaps' brimstone 
19:20  * brimstone highlights dc0de
19:21  * dc0de hit's <ctrl-n>
19:21  * brimstone hits C-z
19:21 <@dc0de> I want to get a toupee
19:21 <@brimstone> and an italian accent?
19:22 <@dc0de> not that I have hair loss, it's just I want to get people to make a comment about it.
19:22 <@dc0de> like get a really cheesy one...
19:22 <@dc0de> and wear it to customer meetings with a serious look on my face.
19:22 <@brimstone> be a Recovering Hairloss
19:22  * brimstone pulls that a and puts it back in his bag
19:22 <@dc0de> I'm not just the founder, I'm a patient!
19:23 <@brimstone> do up a website and hand out business cards
19:23 <@dc0de> heh.
19:23 <@brimstone> they'll have to take you seriously then
19:23 <@dc0de> call it cheezyhair.com
19:23 <@brimstone> you have a website!
19:24 <@dc0de> and it's available!
19:24 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not only the president, i'm also a client.
19:24 <@ShadowHntr> lol
19:24 <@ShadowHntr> :)
19:24 <@brimstone> i'm not only a shareholder, i'm also an activist!
19:25 <@ShadowHntr> hehehehe
19:25 <@dc0de> not shareholder, hairholder.
19:26 <@brimstone> honestly sir, it's not mine, i'm holding it for a friend
19:26 <@dc0de> exactly.
19:26 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
19:26 <@ShadowHntr> that sounds kinky :P
19:26 <@brimstone> "it's a spare" ?
19:26 <@brimstone> "You can never have too much hair"
19:26  * brimstone folds up irc and puts it back in it's box
19:27 <@brimstone> time for homework
19:27 <@ShadowHntr> lol brimstone
19:27  * dc0de rubs rogaine under his knees...
19:29 <@mtown_nerd> sigh @ homework.  I was in a Starbucks today w/ the bf, and all these college people were in there w/ laptops studying and stuff...   and I was like "i wants to be leety college dood."  :(
19:30 < sdodson> brimstone: I thought the gnome key ring was independent of your user password by design?
19:31 < sdodson> mtown_nerd = non leety high school kid?
19:31 <@mtown_nerd> haha.  HS sucked.  >_<
19:32 <@mtown_nerd> I'd much rather be, like, a professional student.
19:32 <@brimstone> best 6 years of my life
19:32 <@dc0de> mtown_nerd; that costs big $$$
19:32 <@mtown_nerd> With parents who pay for everything so I don't have to work, and can spend my days in frotn of a laptop (Taht the ybought me) at a coffee shop
19:32 <@mtown_nerd> I know :[
19:32 < sdodson> so wait, who's doing homework and why?
19:32 <@mtown_nerd> lol  brimstone said something about homework.
19:32 <@mtown_nerd> I was merely trying to spur conversation.  :)
19:32  * dc0de is watching revenge of the sith
19:32 <@brimstone> sshh not so loud
19:32 <@brimstone> it might hear me
19:33 < sdodson> brimstone: you fail
19:33 <@mtown_nerd> heh
19:33 <@mtown_nerd> bleh @ RotS
19:33  * brimstone dreams of californication
19:33 < sdodson> That song is like impossible not to get into
19:33 < sdodson> makes me want to hold up a lighter or something
19:34 <@brimstone> i know!
19:34 <@brimstone> i find myself holding 2 airguitars usually
19:34 < sdodson> We should write some song about how the east coast rocks and california sucks
19:34 <@mtown_nerd> North Carolinication
19:34 < sdodson> ya!
19:34 <@mtown_nerd> lol
19:34 <@brimstone> set it to the same beat, but backwards
19:35 <@mtown_nerd> Na...just change, like, one note.
19:35 < sdodson> I hear if you play it backwards
19:35 < sdodson> ...
19:35 <@mtown_nerd> It worked for Vanilla Ice
19:35 < sdodson> man vlc fails to play dvds and windows media player is le suck
19:35 <@brimstone> sdodson: get off windows
19:36 <@mtown_nerd> ...I don't remember having problems w/ DVDs in VLC player?  :o
19:36 <@brimstone> mtown_nerd: you're doing it wrong
19:36 < sdodson> I don't want a mac!
19:36 <+coil> yes you do
19:36 <@mtown_nerd> aww :(
19:36 <+coil> you said it your self
19:36 <@brimstone> it's not 1337 if you don't have to recompile or spend half an hour tweaking config files
19:37 <@ShadowHntr> mtown_nerd: but i heard that at least vanilla ice got permission ! :P
19:37 <@brimstone> ppooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrceeeeeeeellllllllllllllllaaaiinn
19:37 <@dc0de> damn
19:38 <@ShadowHntr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Timbaland_plagiarism_controversy
19:39 < sdodson> i miss freebsd
19:39 <@ShadowHntr> it's not like it's dead...
19:39 <@ShadowHntr> :P
19:39 < sdodson> i did feel so cool compiling stuff, even if it was just "make install"
19:39 <@ShadowHntr> contrary to what netcraft may say. ;)
19:39 <@brimstone> i miss Gyorgy Ligeti
19:39 < sdodson> who dat?
19:40 <@dc0de> G Gorden Liddy?
19:40 <@brimstone> to the wikipedia!
19:40 <@brimstone> sdodson: did some music for kubrick's films
19:41 < sdodson> Who is kubrick?
19:41 < sdodson> i kid, i kid
19:41 <@brimstone> sdodson: fail
19:42 <+coil> brimstone: how do i internet?
19:42 < sdodson> Not that I can think of any of his films that I actually enjoyed.
19:42  * brimstone pushes sdodson into a different virtual desktop
19:43 < sdodson> I'm reading a book that tells me to do virtual desktops exactly like I do them currently.
19:43 <@brimstone> how is that?
19:43 < sdodson> It's supposed to increase my productivity. If I'm already doing it then I question how it will increase my productivity.
19:43 < sdodson> One for mail and annoyances, one for your ticketing system, one for projects, one for websz
19:43 < sdodson> etc
19:44 < sdodson> I am going to disable mail notification, I really hate that.
19:44 <@brimstone> sdodson: seen Inbox Zero?
19:44 <@brimstone> just close the mail program
19:44 <@brimstone> do you honestly need it to check every 5 minutes?
19:44 < sdodson> I know of it. I've not seen the entire video.
19:44 < sdodson> NO
19:45 < sdodson> So ya.
19:45 < sdodson> I'm reading Time Management for System Administrators right now
19:45 <@brimstone> heavy
19:45 < sdodson> Cause I need to be more productive
19:47 < sdodson> I struggle with keeping 80 or so machines online.
19:47 < sdodson> 80 or so machines, each one a different model and configuration mind you.
19:47 <@brimstone> meh
19:48 < sdodson> Reinstalled frequently. Fun fun fun
19:48 <@brimstone> i do the brunt of that to 62 machines
19:48 <@brimstone> nah, we don't reinstall hardly ever though
19:48 < sdodson> well it's not like these run anything critical they exist to get reinstalled.
19:48 < sdodson> 62 includes desktops?
19:48 <@brimstone> ah, testing various releases?
19:49 <@brimstone> no desktops
19:49 <@brimstone> i think the number was 62
19:49 <@brimstone> pretty sure 62
19:49 <@brimstone> might be 82
19:49 <@brimstone> but i think 62
19:49 < sdodson> why on earth do you guys have so many servahs?
19:49 <@brimstone> that includes a fair amount of vms
19:49 <@brimstone> for seperation/etc
19:49 <@brimstone> each has it's role
19:50 < sdodson> weren't you going to be doing homework?
19:50 <@brimstone> i am, i am
19:50 <@brimstone> slowly
19:50 <@brimstone> as usual
19:50 < sdodson> you work fulltime school part time? that sounds like a pita to keep up with all that
19:50 <@brimstone> nah, parttime both
19:51 <@brimstone> comes out to be 60~70 hours a week split between them
19:51 <@brimstone> but no class this summer whoo!
19:51 <@mtown_nerd> What you studying, brim?
19:51 < sdodson> yow!
19:51 <@brimstone> i wonder if i could pull 50~60hr weeks at work
19:51 <@brimstone> mtown_nerd: CS
19:51 <@mtown_nerd> Cool :]
19:51 <@brimstone> you?
19:51 < sdodson> Do you want to pull 50-60 hour weeks?
19:52 <@mtown_nerd> English.  hah   Professional Writing & LInguistics
19:52 <@brimstone> or were you not in school?
19:52 <@brimstone> ah, snazzy
19:52 <@brimstone> i wanna learn a language :(
19:52 <@brimstone> sdodson: probably not
19:52 <@mtown_nerd> I am..having to take it slow, though, as I work full-time :[
19:52 <@brimstone> but i do want to build a new fileserver/gaming box
19:52 < sdodson> Don't learn English, it sucks.
19:52 <@mtown_nerd> Hey! >:E
19:52 <@brimstone> fer realz
19:52 <@brimstone> "English is such a tricky language"
19:52 <@mtown_nerd> It does not :(
19:53 <@mtown_nerd> English is a ridiculous language.  lol   It's such a bungling mish-mash of other languages.
19:53 <@mtown_nerd> I <3 it
19:53 <@mtown_nerd> :]
19:53 < sdodson> I wish I could write without regularly sounding like a dumbass.
19:53 <@brimstone> sdodson: read more
19:53 < sdodson> Guess I should read more.
19:53 < sdodson> brimstone: stfu!
19:53 <@brimstone> rtfm!
19:53 <@mtown_nerd> I don't read as much as I should.
19:53 < sdodson> Does reading IRC count?
19:53 <@mtown_nerd> noep
19:54 <@mtown_nerd> fail
19:54 < sdodson> That reminds me, I need to get a scratch pad to write down all the words I don't know very well and look them up.
19:54 <@mtown_nerd> http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z261/pakuorg/fail.jpg  lol
19:54 <@brimstone> i dated an english prof's daughter for a few years
19:54 < sdodson> Why not? Everyone here is so eloquent!
19:54 <@brimstone> now i'm kinda stuck up about grammer :(
19:54 <@mtown_nerd> :{
19:55 < sdodson> there was some link i posted recently i can't think of it now
19:55 < sdodson> maybe firefox leetbar will save me
19:55 <@brimstone> or grep irc logs?
19:55 <@mtown_nerd> I'm kind of a grammar snob myself.  I'm probably a lot more liberal about it now than I used to be, simply because so much as changed, and I'm not exactly well practiced anymore..but..
19:55 < sdodson> http://blog.penelopetrunk.com/2008/04/04/writing-without-typos-is-totally-outdated/
19:55 <@brimstone> the basic's haven't
19:56 < sdodson> I have no logs now that my shell box is dead :(
19:56 <@mtown_nerd> onoes :[
19:56 <@brimstone> if you want some freebies mtown_nerd, just nab some their/there/they're and appostropies in here
19:56 <@mtown_nerd> haha
19:56 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah
19:56 <@mtown_nerd> I know
19:56 < sdodson> If you want freebies just look for anything Shadow404 says.
19:56 <@dc0de> whaaa? ppls use they're words the wrong ways?
19:56 <@brimstone> geebuz, that kid
19:56 < sdodson> He writes like a 6 month old.
19:57 <@mtown_nerd> lol
19:57 <@brimstone> at the expense of social skills
19:57 < sdodson> your dumb!
19:57 <@dc0de> sdodson; :)
19:57 <@dc0de> nicely played. old chum!
19:57 <@brimstone> Shadow404 must know where all the cool parties is be
19:57 <@mtown_nerd> There was a guy that was involved in our local computer gaming scene here in Memphis for a while that typed worse than anyone I can think of.  He def. wrote like a half-baked one-armed retard. :{
19:57 < sdodson> I'm not old!
19:58 <@dc0de> there, there, dear boy... don't get yourself in an uproar.
19:58 <@brimstone> take your pills and watch your stories
20:01 <@mtown_nerd> Hrmm....  I think once I get my CentOS VM back online... I may experiment with using VLC for audio streaming, so I can listen at work.  :D  I guess it just never occured to me that VLC did such magic.
20:02 <@brimstone> there's a lot of good streaming music online
20:02 <@mtown_nerd> Well, as it stands, I listen to Pandora at my desk
20:02 <@brimstone> shoutcast, local stations, other city's stations, last.fm, pandora
20:02 < sdodson> I miss having an office.
20:02 <@brimstone> then all the pay stuff, xm, etc if you know someone with an online account
20:03  * brimstone gives sdodson the office next to him
20:03 <@brimstone> no one's in it :(
20:05 <@mtown_nerd> My "office" at present is two tables put together (not the same height, mind you) behind the dept copier. :[
20:06  * sdodson bets mtown_nerd gets to kill rodents at work too
20:07 <@mtown_nerd> haha
20:07 <@mtown_nerd> So far, only roaches
20:07 <@brimstone> but are you in the basement with all the cool kids?
20:07 <@mtown_nerd> and a stink beetle
20:07 <@mtown_nerd> No.  We're on the 2nd floor.  It feels liek a basement, though.  No windows, copier, junk EVERYWHERE.
20:08 < dmcmorris_esi> One pace I worked for had desks almost exclusively made of doors stacked on whatever was handy (file cabinets, milk crates...)
20:08 < dmcmorris_esi> s/pace/place
20:08 <@mtown_nerd> haha
20:08 <@brimstone> eep
20:08 <@mtown_nerd> That's awesome
20:08 <@brimstone> that's sad
20:08 <@mtown_nerd> I'd prefer that over my current setup
20:08 <@mtown_nerd> At least that has character
20:08 <@brimstone> true
20:10 < dmcmorris_esi> IIRC, those doors came off the closets of the building they rented...
20:10 < dmcmorris_esi> so, when we moved, they became closet doors again instead of desktops
20:10  * brimstone shakes his head
20:10 <@mtown_nerd> yay
20:10 <@brimstone> silly dotcom startups
20:10 < dmcmorris_esi> pc repair business
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20:12  * mtown_nerd is a lowly DST. :(
20:12 <@brimstone> Dairy Station Terrist?
20:12 <@mtown_nerd> Desktop Support Tech.
20:12  * mtown_nerd hides face in shame.  T_T
20:13 < dmcmorris_esi> ahh
20:13 < dmcmorris_esi> all I can say is... thank that mythical christian head honcho that I don't have to do that anymore...
20:13 <@mtown_nerd> haha
20:13 <@mtown_nerd> wel
20:14 <@mtown_nerd> I'd like to move up from it ... but, as that's where mys killset is, that's what people hire me to do.  :/
20:15 < dmcmorris_esi> I volunteered for an OSS project a couple years ago, and now the company that was born from it hired me as a server tech
20:15 <@mtown_nerd> Fortunately, where I'm working now has access to training on all kinds of shit...  so I plan on taking full advantage of that to move into Windows server support, and maybe web stuff.  Just have to see how it pans out.
20:15 < astralsin2> where are you working?
20:15 < dmcmorris_esi> heh, there's always a need for Windows support ;)
20:15 <@mtown_nerd> I'd say *nix, but where I work is an all MS shop.  So...  no *nix to speak of there.
20:15 -!- astralsin2 is now known as AstralSin
20:15 <@mtown_nerd> University of Tennessee Medical Group, Inc.
20:15 < AstralSin> ah
20:16 < dmcmorris_esi> http://www.esilibrary.com
20:16 <@mtown_nerd> IT's basically the not-for-profit organization that allows UT Memphis medical professors to continue their practices while teaching.
20:16 < dmcmorris_esi> oh nice
20:16 <@mtown_nerd> Oddly enough, for a not-for-profit org, they spend a LOT of money on vendor-pitched stuff.  lol
20:16 <@mtown_nerd> The talk at OZ4 about vendors made me think of these guys.
20:16 < dmcmorris_esi> HIS was something I always had an interest in...
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20:16 < AstralSin> from what i've seen, most of the IT managers in tennessee are slaves to vendor pitches... no offense to anyone here
20:17 <@mtown_nerd> It's pretty well true.
20:17 < AstralSin> even my teacher/it manager is pretty married to the whole microsoft way... at least he was until i introduced him to ubuntu and vista pissed him off
20:17 < sdodson> Why would it particularly be IT managers in TN?
20:18 < AstralSin> oh, its IT managers everywhere really
20:18 < AstralSin> i imagine, anyway
20:18 <@mtown_nerd> Like our $12,000 3-drive wiping device that is basically an AMD Geode GX 533 400MHz Micro-ITX PC w/ 512 MB of DDR-266 RAM, a 2GB CF for internal storage, probably on-board IDE controller, a fancy chassis, and a flavor of embedded Linux....
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20:18 <@mtown_nerd> >_<
20:18  * sdodson wonders what esi is?
20:18 < AstralSin> $12k?!?
20:18 < dmcmorris_esi> http://www.esilibrary.com
20:18 <@mtown_nerd> AstralSin: yarp.
20:19 < AstralSin> jesus christ, you can cook that up cheap
20:19 <@mtown_nerd> I know
20:19 <@mtown_nerd> ;[
20:19 < dmcmorris_esi> Equinox Software Inc... support Evergreen (open source library automation software)
20:19 < AstralSin> FREE
20:19 <@brimstone> but then it's not certified
20:19 <@brimstone> it's not supported
20:19 <@brimstone> it's not GAA-RRUN-TEED!
20:19 <@mtown_nerd> It was a HUE internal debate for me not to say anything..  but I'm the new guy, and still a contractor...so I didn't want to be the one to walk up to the Directory of Infrastructure, however cool I think he is, and say "Yeah...it sucks."
20:19 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah
20:19 <@mtown_nerd> That's basically it.
20:19 < AstralSin> leet fuckers like me don't need no guarantee to make it work :)
20:19 <@mtown_nerd> He's paying or the ability to say "Well, if it fucks up, talk to these guys."
20:20 <@brimstone> my boss is doing that now too
20:20 <@brimstone> quick to take credit, quick to pass blame
20:20 <@dc0de> yeah, but it was created in Georgia... so no one will want it.
20:20  * AstralSin hopes to get a call from a pentesting company this week for a job
20:20 <@mtown_nerd> AstralSin: You're probably not all bound to HIPAA compliance and deathly terrified of audits (that are uspposed to be happening very soon, I think?)
20:20 <@mtown_nerd> :[
20:20 <@mtown_nerd> http://www.deadondemand.com/products/digitalshredder/
20:21 <@mtown_nerd> lol  There it is.
20:21 <@dc0de> omg..
20:21 < AstralSin> actually, i'm starting a local security auditing firm concentrating on making doctors and hospitals HIPPA compliant
20:21 <@dc0de> people are actually buying those?
20:21 < AstralSin> but we'll just see how that goes
20:21 <@mtown_nerd> Yes.
20:21 <@mtown_nerd> lol
20:21 <@dc0de> mtown_nerd; stupid is as stupid does.
20:21 <@mtown_nerd> dc0de: Yep. :(
20:22 < AstralSin> i've seen those, it made me want to get into that business... easy money
20:22 < sdodson> mtown_nerd: Does it include some sort of certificate of liability?
20:22 <@mtown_nerd> Apparently, it really is.
20:22 <@mtown_nerd> lol
20:22 <@mtown_nerd> Esp when we could have gone with something like EBAN and had the ability to wipe drives over the network on as many machines as I could plug into the physical switch.
20:22 <@mtown_nerd> :/
20:22 <@dc0de> sdodson; no, no one can absolve a company of their liability.
20:22 <@mtown_nerd> sdodson: Supposedly, yes, but I've not myself seen it.  My boss has that somewhere, I think.
20:23 <@dc0de> a certificate of "compliance" maybe... but not liability.
20:23 <@mtown_nerd> Oh...  I don't know.  I'm not 100% sure how the whole "Certified" thing works.
20:23 <@mtown_nerd> Ah..yeah...
20:23 < sdodson> whatever
20:23 <@dc0de> big difference
20:24 < sdodson> What do you do with drives that have failed?
20:24 <@dc0de> me?
20:24 <@mtown_nerd> sdodson: Put them in a "DESTROY" box.  Haven't arranged someone to actually do it yet, though.
20:24 < sdodson> The collective you, anyone who is dumb enough to pay attention to me.
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20:25 <@mtown_nerd> I actually sent these guys a HUGE email after a few days of messing with it expressing concerns about performance quirks, stability issues, and general questions about its reliability from both a hardware and diagnostic stand point.
20:25 <@mtown_nerd> I had drives that would fail to wipe, I'd eject and re-insert them, try again, and they'd work just fine.
20:25 <@mtown_nerd> Put two identical drives in at teh exact same time, one takes 30 minutes using SEcure Erase, the other takes 18 hours, and then fails...and then finishes just fine when I try it again. l ol
20:25 <@mtown_nerd> So
20:26 <@mtown_nerd> Ugh...it's ....questionable in its best moments. :(
20:26 < AstralSin> anyone tried this new free support from microsoft?
20:27 < sdodson> I wouldn't be alarmed by differences in how long it takes.
20:29  * dc0de turns them into maraca's
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20:31  * mtown_nerd wishes Cedega would let him register. :[
20:31 < AstralSin> from what i've seen, wine can do what cedega can these days
20:31 < AstralSin> though, i was having problems helping a friend get TF2 working earlier and its rated as gold
20:31 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah...TF2 is one of the ones that concerns me
20:32 < sdodson> tf2 worked for me in wine, as long as you don't mine the walls being hot pink
20:32 < AstralSin> she downloaded it from steam, i think if she had orange box, she'd be fine
20:32 <@mtown_nerd> TF2 and maybe the Dawn of War series (though the new exp disappoints me)
20:32 <@mtown_nerd> Well, I don't have the box, either. .. I bought it from Steam, too.  Hoping that's not going to matter too much .:[
20:33 < AstralSin> if you get it working, let me know how so i can help her
20:33 < AstralSin> she's a hottie
20:33 < sdodson> shouldn't, steam is nice like that
20:34 < AstralSin> she kept getting an error about directx 8
20:34 <@mtown_nerd> I haven't played Tf2 in so long. >_<
20:34 < AstralSin> and since i never use wine, i didn't know how to fix it
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20:34 <@mtown_nerd> And I'm seriously hoping that Cedega's going to pre-empt the WAR release and have it working relatively quickly.  I'd hate to have to go back to Windows JUST so I can play WAR.
20:35 <@mtown_nerd> I'm probably going to have to initially, esp if I get into beta....   but I'd rather it not be a long-term thing.
20:35 < sdodson> WAR release?
20:35 < AstralSin> thats what i said about UT3 but there's still no linux binary, i'm fairly certain its held up in legal with gamespy/m$
20:35 <@mtown_nerd> Warhammer: Age of Reckoning
20:35 <@dc0de> crossover has a "cedega" like release too, crossover games
20:35 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah.. I looked at that ...  looked pretty cool.
20:36 <@mtown_nerd> But I've never heard of anyone who uses it ...  and Cedega was a more familiar term to m, so I figured I'd start there.
20:36 <@dc0de> since I own Crossover Pro, I got it free.
20:36 < sdodson> I had a cedega subscription as it looked like they were doing well with regard to pushing htings back into wine, but apparently that's not actually the case.
20:36 <@dc0de> so I'm going to try it, although my windows games aren't that high tech.
20:36 <@dc0de> Civ III, and a few other strategy games
20:36 <@mtown_nerd> I don't really care what it is, so long as it works.  heh
20:37 < AstralSin> anyone else excited about Starcraft 2?
20:37  * sdodson scolds mtown_nerd 
20:37 <@mtown_nerd> AstralSin: No.
20:37 <@mtown_nerd> Aww :(
20:37 < AstralSin> aww
20:37 <@mtown_nerd> What'd I do?
20:37 < Curbo1> even though i have google as my home page firefox keeps opening to http://www.%u.com/ ?? ubuntu
20:37 < AstralSin> i might actually install windows for SC2, i havent had windows installed for 3 years
20:37 < AstralSin> Curbo1: ive never had that problem
20:38 < AstralSin> check your preferences
20:38 < Curbo1> well i am seeing a couple other problems anyway, like system lockups and keyboard lockups.... still learning
20:39 <@mtown_nerd> meh... the only game I'm really waiting on now is WAR.
20:39 <@mtown_nerd> SC2 can go suck itself.  lol  It's a day late, a dollar short, and made by a company for which I have very little respect anymore.
20:39 < AstralSin> that's not normal, curbol
20:39 < AstralSin> well, you've got a point mtown
20:39 < AstralSin> blizzard has lost alot of street cred with me, but the vids for SC2 do look great
20:40 < AstralSin> you gotta admit that
20:40 <@mtown_nerd> Of course they do.  I would hope so, for as much $$ as they have to throw at their games now.  lol
20:40 < AstralSin> new units look cool
20:40  * mtown_nerd grumbles @ Blizzard
20:41 < AstralSin> i mean come on, they've got cow terran marines now
20:41 <@mtown_nerd> I don't know ...WoW, and how they handled it, really left me bitter....and my own personal run-ins with their legal team for our big LAN parties here in Memphis some years back...   douchebags, all.
20:41 < AstralSin> or buffaloes or something
20:41 < AstralSin> im not big on MMOs anyway, so the whole WoW thing never hit me hard other than them ignoring their other properties
20:41 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah.
20:42 <@mtown_nerd> well, I'm a long-time MMO player.
20:42 <@mtown_nerd> and I played WoW from Beta Phase 2 to about a year after release...and it was just one broken promise after the next.
20:42 <@mtown_nerd> They'd promise the moon and give us ...well..Memphis.  lol
20:43 <@mtown_nerd> They lost pretty much ALL of the devs that made Blizzard what it is to that infernal project because the suits were in control.  And now it's nothing but a cash cow to them.  lol  The whole engine operates on nothing but $.  They stopped caring about their gamers a long time ago. Which is unfortunate, because some of my favorite franchises were all Blizzard. :(
20:43 <@Mirage> I play it for something to pass the time, but I'm nowhere near addicted
20:44 < AstralSin> mtown_nerd: yeah, i agree that they stopped caring about their gamers but i think just by them doing SC2, that may be changing
20:44 < oddball> i tried a free trial of WoW after 3 years of City of Heroes... I ran screaming back to CoH.
20:44 < AstralSin> MMOs bore the shit out of me for some reason, i prefer a more in/out gaming experience i guess
20:44 < AstralSin> FPS and RTS is all i care for
20:45 <@mtown_nerd> hehe
20:45 <@mtown_nerd> I like 'em both
20:45 <@mtown_nerd> I like MMO's because of the community, and it's a time killer.
20:45 <@mtown_nerd> But it typically happens that, after a while, I get tired of it, and I go back to something I can in/out enjoy
20:45 <@mtown_nerd> like TF2 :)
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20:45 <@mtown_nerd> But WAR is going to be another MMO chapter in my life, I think.  lol
20:45 <@mtown_nerd> Already go friends gearing up for it.  Been following it since it wasn othing more than a dev blog.
20:46 < AstralSin> i played TF2 a couple times, it just wasn't my style of game
20:46 < AstralSin> i really hate cell shading and it just didn't feel like the original, to which i was freakin addicted
20:46 <@mtown_nerd> And while that would generally concern me, given all the past let-downs I've experiencedd oing that (Shadowbane, we hardly knew ye!), this is Mythic...and they rock.
20:46 <@mtown_nerd> Awww...  cell shading well done is awesome. :D
20:46 < AstralSin> i mean the ORIGINAL quake mod, not that TF Classic crap
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20:46 <@mtown_nerd> <3 Windwaker
20:46 < AstralSin> it just feels gimmicky to me
20:46 <@mtown_nerd> heh
20:47 < AstralSin> windwaker is the ONLY cell shaded game that i'll play, and thats only because the game itself was so magnificent
20:47 < AstralSin> but its still no Ocarina :)
20:47 <@mtown_nerd> It's a breath of fresh air to me, given all the "super realistic" styles that are out there.
20:47 <@mtown_nerd> hehe
20:47 <@mtown_nerd> Oh, yeah...  OoT = <333333
20:48 < AstralSin> i think i'm gonna lay out of school tomorrow, i'm done with everything i can do and people are pissing me off
20:48 < AstralSin> i gotta figure out how to get my heatsink back on the cpu of my desktop though, i cant get the damn thing to clip down
20:49 <@dc0de> AstralSin; use a hammer...
20:49 <@dc0de> it worked on my old desktop...
20:49 < AstralSin> i dont wanna break my mobo :)
20:49 <@dc0de> although, I think our goals were a bit different.
20:49 <@dc0de> oh, you didn't clarify
20:50 < AstralSin> it had that little clip you could stick a screwdriver in and push it down, but it broke off when i tried it
20:53 <@mtown_nerd> hrmm
20:54 <@mtown_nerd> AMD CPU?
20:54 <@mtown_nerd> What type of CPU/cooler, AstralSin?
20:55 < AstralSin> socket 939, heatsink/fan
20:55 < AstralSin> it was some elcheapo heatsink/fan combo, fan went out but i had another one
20:55 <@mtown_nerd> Hrm...  must be an older one ...  most of the Socket 939's have had the big plastic arm clips for a while now...
20:55 <@mtown_nerd> Ahhhh
20:56 <@mtown_nerd> okay...so it's not the factory cooler.
20:56 < AstralSin> it does but you still gotta clip it down
20:56 < AstralSin> the metal hooks on either side... i cant get the second side down
20:56 <@dc0de> epoxy
20:56 <@mtown_nerd> Ooh...ok... I see what you're saying.
20:57 <@mtown_nerd> As in, there's too much tension on the other side?  There's something in the way?  Can yo utell?
20:57 < AstralSin> no, there's nothing in the way, its just being a pain in the ass
20:57 <@mtown_nerd> lol
20:57 <@mtown_nerd> hrmm
20:57 <@mtown_nerd> Odd, because I <3 those coolers.  Always thought they were WAY more intelligently put together than the P4 bs.
20:57 <@dc0de> AstralSin; arc welder?
20:57 <@dc0de> tig-torch?
20:58 <@mtown_nerd> Or just more liquor
20:58 <@mtown_nerd> :P
20:58 < AstralSin> i think the metal part that goes across the heatsink might be bent or something
20:58 <@mtown_nerd> I find that helps me in those cases
20:58 < AstralSin> oh, i'm workin on more liquor :)
20:58 <@mtown_nerd> haha
20:58 <@mtown_nerd> yay
20:58 <@dc0de> AstralSin; i recommend a plasma cutter.
20:58 <@mtown_nerd> I always like the water cutters
20:59 <@mtown_nerd> There's somethign wondefully romantic about sawing through 3" plate steel with water.  lol
20:59  * mtown_nerd om nom nom's bagged minestrone soup.  
21:00 <@dc0de> mtown_nerd; come on, we all know that water isn't gonna help AstralSin with his motherboard/chip/heatsink...
21:00 <@dc0de> but an Arc Welder will do the trick nicely.
21:00 <@mtown_nerd> no, dood, water cooling is the best evar zomg!!11
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21:00 < AstralSin> if i could afford water cooling, i'd do it
21:00 <@dc0de> water cooling... pffft.  that's pussy shit.
21:00 <@mtown_nerd> lol
21:00 < AstralSin> or if i had an empty fishtank, i'd go with mineral oil :)
21:00  * mtown_nerd agrees
21:00 <@dc0de> real men use sodium coolers.
21:00 <@mtown_nerd> Or freon
21:01 <@mtown_nerd> Or liquid nitrogen
21:01 <@mtown_nerd> liquid nitrogen, notebook paper, and Dixie cups.  lol
21:01 <@mtown_nerd> The utlimate cooling solution!
21:01 <@dc0de> LN20 is just a bit too cold.
21:01 <@mtown_nerd> na.  Use some oven mits, and you're fine!
21:01 <@mtown_nerd> :P
21:01 < AstralSin> im gonna hire a midget to constantly spray compressed air on my cpu
21:01 < dmcmorris_esi> heh... just as there was a makeout scene in this movie, the fan on my laptop kicked up
21:01 <@mtown_nerd> lol  awww :P
21:02 < dmcmorris_esi> "Jeeze, it's gettin' hot!" ;)
21:02 <@mtown_nerd> What movie?
21:02 <@dc0de> AstralSin; the midgets have a union now... they're not as cheap as they once were.
21:02 < dmcmorris_esi> mtown_nerd: "blue state"
21:02 <@mtown_nerd> hrm..not familiar with it :o
21:02 < dmcmorris_esi> it's a "romantic comedy"... although, not that comedic
21:02 <@mtown_nerd> Oooh
21:02 <@mtown_nerd> Yes I have (reading teh synopsis)
21:03 < AstralSin> dc0de: the mexican ones are
21:03 < AstralSin> :)
21:05 <@mtown_nerd> Yay!  2nd ep of John Adams has finished downloading.
21:06 < sdodson> real men avoid IRC dick size wars
21:07 <@mtown_nerd> >.>
21:07 < sdodson> The only way to win is not to play.
21:07 <@mtown_nerd> lol ..?
21:08 < sdodson> not sure if you just loled?
21:08 <@mtown_nerd> No, it was a "lol ...[what the hell is this kid talking about]?"
21:08 <@mtown_nerd> :P
21:08 <@mtown_nerd> Like, it struck me funny, but I've no idea what prompted the advice.
21:09 <@mtown_nerd> Not that it isn't excellent advice!
21:09 < sdodson> about your cooling one up-manship a few minutes ago.
21:09 <@mtown_nerd> >_<  But ...  a bit out of left field.
21:09 <@mtown_nerd> lol  I use air cooling; I've little need for anything else.  I was joking earlier.
21:10 < dmcmorris_esi> there was a quote on bash.org about having a computer overclocked massively, and had it in a bathtub of some kind of coolant
21:11 < dmcmorris_esi> I remember it as "Well, how does he shower?"..."After what I told you, what makes you think he ever showers?"
21:11 <@mtown_nerd> lol
21:11 < dmcmorris_esi> http://bash.org/?832291
21:12 <@mtown_nerd> I always wanted to mess with that liquid that 3M makes that's totally inert.  People would submerge their systems in it, and put dry ice in a separate compartment, and pump the liquid into the dry ice chamber, and out the other side back into the main chamber to keep it cool.  Was pretty neat watching a system work totally submerged.
21:12 <@mtown_nerd> I've heard people doing it in cooking oil, too.  lol
21:12 < dmcmorris_esi> this was glycerin, he says
21:12 <@mtown_nerd> haha
21:12 <@mtown_nerd> Classic
21:12 <@mtown_nerd> <3 bash.org
21:13 <@dc0de> <3 youporn.com
21:13 < sdodson> I think perhaps he means glycol?
21:14 <@mtown_nerd> http://bash.org/?853555  lol
21:15 < dmcmorris_esi> sterano: Whats the difference between Raid_0 and Raid_1?
21:15 < dmcmorris_esi> Steve: In Raid_0 the zero stands for how many files you are going to get back if something goes wrong.
21:15 <@mtown_nerd> lol  Yeah
21:16  * dmcmorris_esi checks youporn.com
21:16  * dmcmorris_esi doesn't like youporn.com
21:16 < AstralSin> how can you not?
21:16 < AstralSin> its porn
21:17 < sdodson> deviantart depresses me
21:17 <@mtown_nerd> ghaha
21:17 <@mtown_nerd> Why, sdodson?
21:17 < dmcmorris_esi> it's real women... I hate real women
21:17 < dmcmorris_esi> if I watch porn, I got good-looking women, not real ones ;)
21:18 < sdodson> http://xxxlilmeganxxx.deviantart.com/art/Softness-14339857 second comment
21:18 <@mtown_nerd>  (\_/) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your
21:18 <@mtown_nerd> (O.o) signature to help him to rule the world
21:18 <@mtown_nerd> (>< )
21:19 < sdodson> aside froom that
21:20 < dmcmorris_esi> oh haha ;)
21:20 <@mtown_nerd> I guess I'm just not seeing it ... ?
21:20 < AstralSin> bunnies taste good fried
21:21 < dmcmorris_esi> mtown_nerd: that was a good post ;)
21:21 < dmcmorris_esi> I mean, if you like toilet humor ;)
21:21 <@mtown_nerd> How is "you're first one? that's awesome,  really really awesome!" toilet humor?  :x
21:22 < dmcmorris_esi> no... your link
21:22 <@mtown_nerd> Oh.  lol
21:22 < dmcmorris_esi> "<bryant> I think in the 3 days I've seen you in this channel you've done a better job keeping me in school and off drugs than every authority figure I've met in my entire life."
21:22 <@mtown_nerd> sigh.  I need more liquor
21:22 <@mtown_nerd> haha..yeah...
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21:24 <@Mirage> <Warped^2K> we just got back from hiking in the bush
21:24 <@Mirage> <BIoNYX> i hiked in the bush once but i told her to shave that shit or i'd never do it again
21:24 <@mtown_nerd> lol
21:25 < dmcmorris_esi> Nameskaz: can you help me with an experiment real quick?
21:25 < dmcmorris_esi> MarineWife021406: sure
21:25 < dmcmorris_esi> Nameskaz: let me see you naked
21:25 < dmcmorris_esi> MarineWife021406: no
21:25 < dmcmorris_esi> Nameskaz: you see, these fortune cookies are bullshit
21:25 < dmcmorris_esi> Nameskaz: "Your courage will reward you" my ass
21:26 <@mtown_nerd> heh...
21:26 < AstralSin> bash is such a great website :)
21:26 < AstralSin> im on there somewhere
21:26 < AstralSin> which makes me internet famous
21:27 <@dc0de> being quoted on bash.org is equivalent to 15pico seconds of fame.
21:27 < dmcmorris_esi> that quote sucks...
21:27 < dmcmorris_esi> " [Warmonger] someone else's grandma maybe"
21:27 < dmcmorris_esi> http://bash.org/?665846
21:28 < dmcmorris_esi> '_
21:28 < AstralSin> hey, i never said it was good
21:28 < dmcmorris_esi> ;)
21:28 < dmcmorris_esi> :-D
21:28 < dmcmorris_esi> the grandma, or the quote?
21:28 < AstralSin> depends on the grandma
21:28 <@dc0de> have either of you thought to lookup #se2600 yet?
21:29 < dmcmorris_esi> many don't have channel names
21:29 < dmcmorris_esi> s/many/most
21:29 < AstralSin> sterano: Whats the difference between Raid_0 and Raid_1?
21:29 < AstralSin> Steve: In Raid_0 the zero stands for how many files you are going to get back if something goes wrong.
21:29 < AstralSin> that was fast
21:29 <@dc0de> seen that.
21:29 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah, AstralSin, someone already quoted that.
21:29 <@mtown_nerd> Sorry
21:29 <@mtown_nerd> fail
21:29 <@mtown_nerd> FAIL
21:29 < AstralSin> i thought that just happened
21:30 < AstralSin> nevermind then
21:30  * AstralSin sobs
21:30 <@mtown_nerd> This 3GB Phil Collins & Genesis Mp3 collection needs to hurry up and finish downloading. >:E
21:30 < dmcmorris_esi> (10:14:17 PM) mtown_nerd: http://bash.org/?853555  lol
21:30 < dmcmorris_esi> (10:15:39 PM) dmcmorris_esi: sterano: Whats the difference between Raid_0 and Raid_1?
21:30 < dmcmorris_esi> (10:15:39 PM) dmcmorris_esi: Steve: In Raid_0 the zero stands for how many files you are going to get back if something goes wrong.
21:30 < sdodson> http://sixteencolors.net/
21:31 < sdodson> all of my quotes are lame
21:32 < dmcmorris_esi> #14860 +(557)- [X][01:03am] ·ct· last night
21:32 < dmcmorris_esi> [01:03am] ·ct· my girlfriend walks out of the room to goto the bathroom
21:32 < dmcmorris_esi> [01:03am] ·ct· and she walks back in
21:32 < dmcmorris_esi> [01:03am] ·ct· and i start feeling her tits
21:32 < dmcmorris_esi> [01:03am] ·ct· and she turns on the light
21:32 < dmcmorris_esi> [01:03am] ·ct· and its not even her, its my mom
21:32 < dmcmorris_esi> [01:03am] •Necro• ...
21:32 < AstralSin> pwnt
21:32 <@mtown_nerd> llol
21:32 < dmcmorris_esi> yeah... now I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight....
21:33  * mtown_nerd is glad he doesn't have to worry about tits.
21:33 <@mtown_nerd> :)
21:33 < AstralSin> i love me some titties
21:33 < sdodson> I call bs on that
21:33 <@mtown_nerd> pecs for me, thx.  ;P
21:33 < dmcmorris_esi> you think he love him some peepee instead? ;)
21:33 <@mtown_nerd> Don't need no milksacs to get in the way!
21:34 <@dc0de> sdodson; this is one of my favorite quotes...
21:34 <@dc0de> http://bash.org/?740127
21:34 < AstralSin> im not down with the manbags... or dong
21:34 < AstralSin> just never appealed to me
21:34  * dmcmorris_esi confused
21:35 < sdodson> dmcmorris_esi: welcome to #se2600
21:35  * dmcmorris_esi recalls the alien getting kicked in the knee in "The fifth element"
21:35 <@Evilpig> it is very rare indeed that I glance to se2600 chat and the screen is full of people I don't know
21:35 < AstralSin> i dont remember that part
21:36 < dmcmorris_esi> the obvious pain, and comment regarding the different anatomy locations on the aliens
21:36 <@dc0de> Evilpig; yeah it's been a night of two people talking...
21:36 < dmcmorris_esi> could be wrong movie... don't think so though
21:36 < AstralSin> hi evilpig! nice to meet you
21:36 <@dc0de> guess they want to get into the top of the stats.
21:36 <@someninjamaster> sup evilpig
21:36 <@Evilpig> you're thinking star trek.
21:36 < sdodson> It's very rare that I glance to se2600 and the conversation is generally hetero.
21:36 <@mtown_nerd> alien kicked in the knee in 5th Element?  My first thought when I saw that was Star Trek VI  ...   I don't remember it happening in 5th
21:37 < dmcmorris_esi> no, it definitely wasn't star trek
21:37  * dmcmorris_esi recalls a *very nice* scene in Total Recall
21:37 <@mtown_nerd> There was a scene in ST VI.  lol whether it's theo ne you're thinking of or not, I don't know ... but there' def was one.
21:38 < AstralSin> the one with 3 titties?
21:38  * dmcmorris_esi pleads the fifth
21:38  * dc0de pleads the 2nd
21:38  * AstralSin has always wanted to find a woman with 3 tittie
21:38 < AstralSin> s
21:39 <@mtown_nerd> lol
21:39 < dmcmorris_esi> when I was bussing it, we would pass a company named "recall"
21:42 < dmcmorris_esi> #40528 +(1402)- [X]<thcip> Answering Machine: Did you ever hear one of those corny, positive messages on someone's answering machine? "Hi, It's a great day and I'm out enjoying it right now. I hope you are too. The thought for the day is 'Share the love.'" Beep." "Uh, yeah...this is the VD clinic calling...Speaking of being positive, your test is back. Stop sharing the love"
21:42 <@mtown_nerd> haha
21:43 < AstralSin> hah
21:44 < dmcmorris_esi> <Socrates> why do i get .06 kbps from kazaa....
21:44 < dmcmorris_esi> <Socrates> thats 60 bits.. i can almost type that fast
21:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Almost?
21:45 <@dasunt> Argh.
21:45 <@Mirage> Evilpig: Shouldn't you be raiding or something?/
21:45  * Corydon76-dig gives dasunt some lovin'
21:45 <@someninjamaster> zomg its mirage
21:45  * mtown_nerd was about to ask a really retarded question about tar...but just figured it out for himself.  Yay!
21:45  * mtown_nerd improves at using Linux by 1 point!
21:45 <@Mirage> As if I haven't been making comments and posting bash.org stuff off/on for awhile
21:45 <@someninjamaster> my dad caulked my shower today and i couldnt stop laughing thanks to your video
21:46 <@Mirage> Did you tel him that he needed to work it into the crack with his finger?
21:46 < sdodson> mtown_nerd: ahw, humor us
21:46 <@someninjamaster> no
21:46 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: did he put his caulk in your crack?
21:46 <@someninjamaster> no
21:47 <@Mirage> Was it white or black?
21:47 <@someninjamaster> it was white
21:47 <@someninjamaster> we needed a small bead
21:47 <@mtown_nerd> Well... I was going to ask where it puts stuff byd efault...because I did "tar -xvf [filename].tar" to a file on my Desktop...and it ran...but I didn't see the extracted contents hit the desktop....    but I realized that tar apparently puts the contents in whatever directory you ran it from.
21:47 <@mtown_nerd> So it was in my home dir, not the desktop.
21:47 <@mtown_nerd> :)
21:48 <@mtown_nerd> So..yay!
21:49 <@mtown_nerd> see?  I managed to totally kill conversation with my stupid question, even after I figured it out for myself.  I can't imagien what would haveh appened had I gone ahead and asked it!! :(
21:51 < AstralSin> congratulations
21:52 <@mtown_nerd> I'm a failure!! :'(
21:52  * mtown_nerd weeps
21:52  * brimstone dereferences mtown_nerd
21:52 <@brimstone> FIXED!
21:52 <@Corydon76-dig> mtown_nerd: do you know how to use a caulking gun?
21:52 <@mtown_nerd> Yes.  Yes, I do.
21:53 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.mypartypost.com/watchvideo/1203/SNL_-_Jason_Lee_-_Caulk_Skit
21:55 <@mtown_nerd> lol
21:55 <@brimstone> ug, aspect ratio
21:55 <@mtown_nerd> All the innuendo aside, this is funny because this is exactly how HGTV programming is.
21:56 < dmcmorris_esi> somebody should just make a bot that, every 180 seconds or so, pastes a random quote from bash.org
21:57 <@mtown_nerd> eh..
21:57 <@mtown_nerd> Or at least one that posts one when someone says !bash
21:57 <@mtown_nerd> heh
21:57 < AstralSin> there's an eggdrop module that does the
21:57 < AstralSin> !bash thing
21:57 < AstralSin> damn enter key
21:58 <@someninjamaster> dmcmorris_esi: if someone sets that bot so help me
21:58  * dmcmorris_esi quickly fakes his death
21:58 < sdodson> down with bots
21:58 < sdodson> Actually, I really don't care so long as the bot doesn't do anything useful
21:58 <@someninjamaster> let the bot genocide begin
21:59 < sdodson> I hate when people mix functional bots with annoying functions.
21:59 <@someninjamaster>   /kick chanserv
21:59 <@brimstone> sdodson: take it back
21:59 <@Corydon76-dig> ~bash
21:59 <+MxZBot> bash is such a great website :)
21:59 < AstralSin> im an efnet kind of guy so eggdrops have a place close to my heart
22:00 < sdodson> brimstone: what what?
22:00  * Corydon76-dig used to run an eggdrop, back in the 1.0 days
22:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Ran it off of mahal.pcstore.vanderbilt.edu
22:00 < sdodson> Thanks, i don't think we could have gone another day without knowing that trivia point.
22:01 <@Corydon76-dig> For some reason, Taj (general manager) didn't like that hostname
22:01 <@brimstone> ug, pass by reference :(
22:02 < sdodson> do naut copy!
22:02  * brimstone makes a shallow copy
22:02 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: Great, I'll be sure to mention it when you release some odd trivia
22:02 <@brimstone> oohh! can we have a trivia night?
22:03 < sdodson> Man, that sucks. I couldn't write a C function where I passed something by reference without googling.
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22:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Um, why not?
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22:14 <@mtown_nerd>  n
22:14 <@mtown_nerd> whoops.  lol  Wrong screen
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22:15  * mtown_nerd is trying to install VMWAre Server on LInux without blowing something up.
22:15 <@brimstone> that's pretty easy mtown_nerd
22:15 <@brimstone> like sudo ./install.sh -plz or something
22:16 <@mtown_nerd> sudo ./vmware-config.pl I think
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22:17 <@brimstone> yeah
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22:17 <@brimstone> i need to remember i have media keys, makes life easier
22:17 <@mtown_nerd> But I'm still, lke, only 3% confident in my abilities using this OS.  lol  So right now, I think evertyhing is going to asplode
22:17 < AstralSin> the best thing to do with learning linux is break the shit out of it, fix it, and do it again
22:17 <@brimstone> asplodysplode!
22:18 <@brimstone> AstralSin: really anything you can get away with
22:18 < dmcmorris_esi> http://bash.org/?84803 is interestin' reads ;)
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22:19 < AstralSin> yeah
22:19  * dasunt dies.
22:19 <@mtown_nerd> AstralSin: That's what people tell me, but unfortunately I don't seem to be very good at the "just do it" thing ... so breaking it is hard, because I don't really know, like, what I'm supposed to be doing or not doing enough to NOT do it..if that makes any sense.
22:20 <@brimstone> i'm suprised there's not a rickroll bash quote...
22:20 < dmcmorris_esi> #490619 +(836)- [X]<d0pp> I farted over the intercom last night.
22:20 < dmcmorris_esi> <d0pp> :D
22:20 < dmcmorris_esi> <d0pp> It echoed through the entire store.
22:20 < AstralSin> just do it man
22:20 < AstralSin> if you break it, look at it as an opportunity to learn
22:20 <@mtown_nerd> haha.  Gah!!  I want to!  But just do what??  :(
22:21 < AstralSin> this is what i tell people in my class that ask... google it :)
22:21 <@mtown_nerd> lol
22:21 <@mtown_nerd> I gues
22:22 <@mtown_nerd> I guess I'm just not much of an engineer personality...   I don't typically take stuff apart just for the sake of taking it apart...  if I don't have, like, a reason to do somethign or learn something, I have a really hard time doing/learning it.  It's been quite a hold-up in my progress in this industry, honestly. :(
22:22 <@mtown_nerd> It's why I'm an English major andn ot a CS major. lol
22:22 < sdodson> man, this is depressing, no one comments on my live journal
22:23 <@brimstone> i don't have the abstract thinking for engineering
22:23 < AstralSin> its not as hard as it sounds... googling for any linux problem normally turns up an easy cut/paste solution
22:23 < AstralSin> sdodson: no one ever comments on my blog either but i get crap for traffic
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22:24 <@mtown_nerd> Well, so far, no problems. lol  The tar thing, but I figured that out in kind of a "Eureka!" moment on my own...everything else with this thing has been surprisingly easy to do.  :x
22:24 < sdodson> brimstone: You taunt me, one day it'll be your demise!
22:24 <@brimstone> :(
22:25 < AstralSin> mtown_nerd: it'll all start coming naturally eventually, its really not as hard as people make it out to be
22:25 < AstralSin> thats the beauty of *nix systems, everything works in a logical manner
22:25 <@mtown_nerd> hehe
22:25 <@mtown_nerd> Yeah...just very different.
22:25 < sdodson> brimstone: What do you plan to do with your CS degree if not software engineering?
22:25 <@mtown_nerd> If something breaks, I dno't know where to go...which isn't a HUGE problem, so long as Ican get to a browser.
22:25 < AstralSin> i'll give you that, its very different
22:26 <@brimstone> sdodson: sys admin right now
22:26 <@mtown_nerd> But, like, one of the first problems I had was with X. lol  And, specifically, the nVidia driver
22:26 < AstralSin> the browser is the right place to go
22:26 <@brimstone> maybe i'll take my act on the road
22:26 <@mtown_nerd> Thankfully, unixfag was around to help with that one.  :x
22:26 < AstralSin> i'm 10 years experienced with linux, if you have a problem you can ask me as well
22:26 <@mtown_nerd> yay!
22:26 <@mtown_nerd> May I simply kill you and eat your brains?
22:27 < AstralSin> i don't know everything, but i can normally find the answer
22:27 < sdodson> brimstone: My I suggest a change of major?
22:27 <@mtown_nerd> Thusly attaining all that you are and know?
22:27 < sdodson> To IS/IT?
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22:27 <@brimstone> sdodson: not when i'm ~10hrs from gradumication
22:27 < AstralSin> i've encrypted my brain, wouldn't do you any good
22:27 <@mtown_nerd> hrmm...
22:27 <@mtown_nerd> lol brimstone
22:27 < sdodson> brimstone: oh. The thing I lack most as an SA is business know how. And being an SA is a lot of business whether you like it or not.
22:28 <@brimstone> yeah, i know :(
22:28 <@mtown_nerd> I won't be graduating with my undergard English degree until, like, 2010  :(
22:28  * mtown_nerd sighs
22:28 < sdodson> damn kids
22:28 <@mtown_nerd> I'm 24!
22:28 <@mtown_nerd> lol
22:28 <@mtown_nerd> I'm supposed to be, like, in grad school1  Or done!
22:28 <@mtown_nerd> And making $2304238/yr
22:28  * sdodson getting way too close to being 30
22:28 <@mtown_nerd> I feel so behind sometimes.  lol
22:28  * brimstone throws a decimal point in there
22:29 < AstralSin> im staying out of school tomorrow to do some physical security exercises, i'm gonna go social engineer some people and do some dumpster diving
22:29 <@mtown_nerd> lol
22:29 < sdodson> Grad students make $23k!
22:29 <@mtown_nerd> yay
22:29 <@mtown_nerd> Man, I hope not! :(
22:29 < AstralSin> $23k?!? damn, i woulda thought more
22:29 < sdodson> While still a student, sure.
22:29 <@mtown_nerd> When I do get to the point where I'm ready for grad school, I'm going somewhere with a beach
22:29 <@mtown_nerd> lol
22:29 < sdodson> Thought you meant while in school.
22:29 <@mtown_nerd> I don't even care where
22:29 <@mtown_nerd> Just somewhere with a beach
22:29 < AstralSin> if i get this job i'm hoping for, i'll be making $80k
22:29 <@mtown_nerd> AstralSin: die now, thx
22:29 < sdodson> Austrailia!
22:30 < AstralSin> no thanks
22:30 <@mtown_nerd> aww :{
22:30 <@mtown_nerd> lol  I've thought about it.
22:30 < sdodson> Man, $80k, sometimes I feel undervalued.
22:30 <@mtown_nerd> And here I was happy about my finally breaking the 40k/yr barrier. :(
22:31  * mtown_nerd goes afk to listen to Simple Plan and write bad poetry...and cutcutcutcutcut
22:31 < sdodson> I didn't mean that I made $80k and I feel undervalued if that's what you thought I meant.
22:31 <@mtown_nerd> No.  lol
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22:31 <@mtown_nerd> Here I am, 24, just now hitting 40k/yr.  As a DST.  In a room filled with 80k/yr-making leety haxors.  lol
22:32  * mtown_nerd is feeling a bit outclassed.  ><    *cutcutcutcutcut!*
22:32 < sdodson> I was making $30k with a bachelor's at 24.
22:32 < AstralSin> hey man, there's an advantage to being the first person to get CEH at the first school that's allowed to teach it in an educational institution as a course :)
22:32 < AstralSin> as part of standard curriculum i mean
22:33 <@mtown_nerd> CEH?
22:33 < sdodson> oh, no, I had gotten a raise by then! $31k!
22:33 < AstralSin> eccouncil certified ethical hacker
22:33 < sdodson> What's that program about?
22:33 <@mtown_nerd> Oh, wow
22:33 <@mtown_nerd> A bonefied white hat
22:33 <@mtown_nerd> :D
22:33 < sdodson> Forensics? chain of custody type stuff?
22:33 < AstralSin> its also helpful to actually care about computer security instead of just reading the book
22:33 <@mtown_nerd> heh.  Yeah.
22:34 < AstralSin> its not so much forensics, it teaches the ways black hats penetrate networks so you've got the knowledge to help protect networks
22:34 < AstralSin> if you don't know how to get in, you don't know how to protect
22:34 < AstralSin> and i'll attest, most other certification tests are easy as shit, CEH was fuckin hard
22:34 < sdodson> Get someone with passwords drunk?
22:35 < AstralSin> well, thats one way :)
22:35 < sdodson> Everyone thinks their cert was hard. :)
22:35 < AstralSin> social engineering, baby :)
22:35 < sdodson> Well, no, I don't think RHCE was hard. I do think it's a decent program though.
22:35 < AstralSin> nah, i know the CEH test doesn't make someone a hacker, you gotta live it man
22:36 < AstralSin> ive lived it for a long time, not saying i'm a leet fucker or anything, i wanna learn more, but i can secure a corporate network as well as it can be secured
22:37 < sdodson> ya
22:37 < AstralSin> i'm actually gonna get the ECCouncil Licensed Penetration Tester cert too, my school is gonna hire me as an instructor and pay for that cert as well
22:37 < sdodson> I wish I had more experience with security stuffs.
22:37 <@brimstone> i want a leet pentest cert
22:37 <@brimstone> right now i can't even cert a ballpoint...
22:37 < AstralSin> fuck man, i hate to sound like i'm bragging and shit, but i'm also going to the Hacker Halted conference in Myrtle Beach as a VIP too
22:38 <@mtown_nerd> woot
22:38 < AstralSin> yeah dude, that's gonna be a fuckin party
22:38 <@mtown_nerd> GOD Y U BRAGIN SO HARD AstralSin ZOMG
22:38 <@mtown_nerd> :P
22:38 < sdodson> how you roll so deep?
22:39 < AstralSin> ECCouncil offered VIP passes to my instructor and 6 other people from class for being the first class at a school to be able to do this, before now its only been available to security professionals with 2+ years experience that had an endorsement from their job
22:40 < sdodson> Is the CISSP still like that?
22:41 < sdodson> Seem to recall it needed endorsments
22:41 < AstralSin> yeah, my instructor is CISSP
22:41 < AstralSin> i hope to get that one day
22:41 < AstralSin> he said the CEI test is harder than CISSP, i'm getting the CEI cert through endorsement from him so I don't have to take that test
22:42 < AstralSin> he had to take a laptop and pda with him into the testing room to do simulations and shit
22:42 < AstralSin> i'd kinda like to take that test just for the hell of it because it sounds challenging but i don't have to
22:44 < AstralSin> its a valuable certification though, there's a company in Franklin that is looking for CEH people right now, I expect a call from them this week... its a work from home job doing pen testing ($80k/yr)
22:44 < AstralSin> and unlike any other certification, its fuckin fun to study for it
22:51 <@mtown_nerd> sigh.  I love it when software installations ask for a key, you go get the key from their own website, and then get told that the key (copied and pasted from said website) isn't valid. heh
22:51 <@brimstone> vmware eh?
22:52 <@mtown_nerd> yarp  :[
22:52 < AstralSin> its always worked for me, make sure you defined the correct OS when you signed up for the key
22:53 <@mtown_nerd> ooooh.....  yeah... lol  That's probably it.
22:56 <@mtown_nerd> yarp.  I'm dumb.  x_X
22:56 <@mtown_nerd> thx for that, AstralSin
22:56 <@mtown_nerd> Anyway
22:56 <@mtown_nerd> I'm out guys.  Y'all take it easy. :)
22:57 < AstralSin> later
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23:21 <@brimstone> anyone know if it's possible to tell a socket in perl to reconnect?
23:23 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: depends what kind of socket
23:23 <@brimstone> IO::Socket::INET
23:23 <@brimstone> well, that's how i made it
23:23 <@Corydon76-dig> UDP or TCP?
23:24 <@brimstone> tcp
23:24 <@brimstone> udp wouldn't know it disconnected
23:24 <@Corydon76-dig> For TCP, it needs to be an explicit connect()
23:24  * brimstone tries
23:24 <@Corydon76-dig> If there were such an option, it would be set with setsockopt()
23:33 <@Mirage> http://www.justsayhi.com/bb/geek
23:39 -!- AstralSin [n=astralsi@24-158-189-106.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has quit ["bbtomorrowsometime"]
23:49 <@dasunt> Mysogynistic.
23:59 -!- omegix [n=JC@76.73.237.206] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
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