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00:12 <@sasquatc4> from what ive seen it would seem like that department is much easier if your gay
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05:51 <@Psyiode> whaddup 2600
05:54 <@Dagmar> Anyone in BNA still got a microwave gun?
06:00 <@Dagmar> I guess I'll try getting the upstairs neighbor to take his damn subwoofer off the floor before it comes to that.
06:02 <@Psyiode> haha
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06:16 <@Dagmar> I'm serious
06:17 <@Dagmar> Normally the guy doesn't have his tunes up very loud, but this week he's been a bastard about it and has had his damn stero running until 11pm... which means I basically got about 1-2 hours of sleep for this shift.
06:17 <@Dagmar> Drastic measures may be necessary
06:34 <@Psyiode> tell him to stuff a shirt in his woofer
06:34 <@Psyiode> and it the fuck down
06:50 <@ladymerlin> whee
06:52 < wontonjoe> morning
06:53  * wontonjoe is ecstatic!
06:55 < wontonjoe> yay summercon!
06:56 < wontonjoe> are you slobs asleep!?
06:56 < wontonjoe> wake up #se2600!
06:56 <@ladymerlin> im awake i dont wanna be tho
06:57 < wontonjoe> oh sorry to hear that
06:57 < wontonjoe> im just awake at home, insomnia, so is the plight of third shifters
06:57 < wontonjoe> my second apple interview got moved back to the nineteenth of this month
07:10 <@Psyiode> im awake
07:10 <@Psyiode> im working 2pm - 11pm now
07:10 <@Shadow404> whats up Psyiode
07:10 <@Psyiode> hey man
07:10 <@Psyiode> hows things
07:10 <@Shadow404> how you ben?
07:10 <@Psyiode> good
07:10 <@Shadow404> been god, still working at the noc
07:10 <@Psyiode> cool, im still working operations as well
07:10 <@Shadow404> kicking ass, got promoted a few months ago
07:11 <@Psyiode> jus tgot my annual and now am in the middle of a promotion woot
07:11 <@Shadow404> so i have 3 techs i look over
07:11 <@Psyiode> cool
07:11 <@Shadow404> 2 are older than me
07:11 <@Psyiode> i got a girl friend too
07:11 <@Shadow404> so its difficult
07:11 <@Shadow404> awesome
07:11 <@Psyiode> haha yeah im still the youngest on my team
07:11 <@Psyiode> they respect my knowledge though =P
07:11 <@Shadow404> heh, im second oldest
07:12 < wontonjoe> psyiode, i owe you a remote, im sorry man, bs took my attention away from sending it
07:12 <@Shadow404> got one guy not on my team thats 1 year younger
07:13 <@Psyiode> cool
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07:19 < wontonjoe> wonton haz a date w00t!
07:19 <@Psyiode> nice
07:19 < wontonjoe> wanna see
07:19 <@Psyiode> sure
07:19 < wontonjoe> check your pm
07:19 <@Psyiode> she not a tranny is she?
07:19 <@Shadow404> let em see
07:19 < wontonjoe> nah
07:20 < wontonjoe> i dont think
07:20 <@Shadow404> shes not timballs mom is she?
07:20 < wontonjoe> she looks irish FTW
07:20 <@Psyiode> no pm here
07:20 <@Psyiode> haha
07:20 < wontonjoe> hold on
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07:20 <@wontonjoe> check your pm
07:21 <@wontonjoe> timballs mom, is that why she curses at me and looks like a crzy asian lady?
07:21 <@wontonjoe> i met this girl, well thats hard to explain
07:22 <@Shadow404> i have no pm
07:22 <@Shadow404> c'mon
07:22 <@Shadow404> share the wealth
07:23 <@wontonjoe> i met her because she was a contact on my buddy list, i couldnt figure out why she was there, i somehow added her a long time ago or something, just started chatting it up with her a few days ago
07:24 <@Psyiode> haha nice
07:24 <@Psyiode> good luck sir!
07:24 <@Dagmar> Let's hope she's not one of your little sister's friends, added to your contact list by mistake.
07:25 <@Psyiode> kinky
07:27 <@Shadow404> wontonjoe: you didnt share with me
07:31 <@Psyiode> alright im headed to bed
07:31 <@Psyiode> g'night all
07:33 <@Shadow404> later
07:36 <@wontonjoe> sorry my connection dropped
07:36 <@aestetix> dongz
07:36 <@wontonjoe> dagmar, nah no chance of that
07:36 <@wontonjoe> oh no look its dingleberry himself aestetix! i mean hi aestetix!
07:37 <@wontonjoe> shadow404
07:37 <@wontonjoe> you still wanna see?
07:37 <@Shadow404> yes
07:37 <@Shadow404> hi aestetix
07:38 <@Shadow404> i'd do her
07:38 <@Shadow404> :)
07:38 <@wontonjoe> kinda looks irish huh
07:38 <@brimstone> omg it's Psyiode
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07:39 <@Shadow404> umm, let me see again
07:39 <@wontonjoe> funny thing is, shes country, like drives a truck, but listens to metal
07:39 <@Shadow404> a little
07:39 <@wontonjoe> its still at the same url
07:39 <@Shadow404> i know
07:39 <@aestetix> Does she have sex with her family?
07:39 <@Shadow404> i just had to pull it up again
07:39 <@wontonjoe> aestetix we all do you come back now ya hear!
07:40 <@wontonjoe> sorry im in bastard mode today
07:41 <@Shadow404> i dont know, she not really irsih so much
07:41 <@aestetix> wontonjoe: what happened, your brother cockblock you against your sister?
07:41 <@Shadow404> damn
07:41 <@wontonjoe> yup, it sucked too, because we was gonna all get together un watch it un everthing
07:42 <@aestetix> Is this one of those events where grandpa sets up a video camera and the whole family does a circle jerk around a cow?
07:43 <@wontonjoe> ya except we dont get all the guys together fer it like you do up north
07:43 <@wontonjoe> we like womenz
07:43 <@aestetix> If you call cows women
07:43 <@wontonjoe> no we call them cows, got a cow pasture right here
07:43 <@wontonjoe> i thought yall was supposed to be smart n stuff up yonder
07:44 <@aestetix> Are you ware's neighbor or something?
07:44 <@wontonjoe> lol
07:44 <@wontonjoe> hell no
07:44 <@wontonjoe> i think he lives in a bunker in the fallout of chernoble SP?
07:45 <@wontonjoe> im just giddy about this whole thing, i havent been on a date in almost four years
07:47 <@Shadow404> nice
07:47 <@wontonjoe> ya i get to see how far behind i am withthe current trends
07:47 <@Shadow404> ok, ill bring you up to speed
07:47 <@Shadow404> "2 in the pink, 1 in the stink"
07:47 <@wontonjoe> weve been talking for a week or so through im, so the icebreaking is done, and on the phone
07:48 <@wontonjoe> we had a guy that wanted that website unblocked yesterday
07:48 <@Shadow404> so you met her through the interwebers
07:48 <@wontonjoe> we kept asking him 3 in the pink one in the stink?
07:48 <@wontonjoe> he would keep coughing and repeating lol
07:48 <@wontonjoe> ya intarweb girl
07:48 <@wontonjoe> like i said im not sure how i got her on my list
07:49 <@wontonjoe> just started chatting her up
07:49 <@Shadow404> nice
07:49 <@Shadow404> oh, so where do u work that he was asking that unblicked?
07:49 <@wontonjoe> ended up telling her about my ex she finally told me to shutup about that and we were lagged with im on her phone, we asked each other out at the same time
07:50 <@brimstone> yeah, don't talk about ex's when you're trying to date someone else
07:50 <@Shadow404> awww, im gagging
07:50 <@wontonjoe> shadow404 i work for a company that does lots of isp support, that one in particular is called integrity online
07:50 <@Shadow404> ah, ok, well i work at internap
07:50 <@wontonjoe> ya i know
07:50 <@Shadow404> ah, let me see
07:50 <@wontonjoe> ive had to call you guys before
07:50 <@wontonjoe> i think
07:51 <@Shadow404> oh really?
07:51 <@wontonjoe> when a fiber got cut somewher i believe, we monitor nagios for a client we have to call whatever provider when stuff goes out to see whats up
07:52 <@Shadow404> yeah, we have a few fiber issues at times, all out of our controls, usually something stupid like a construction crew cuts it
07:52 <@Shadow404> but thats why we have lots of failovers
07:53 <@Shadow404> but depends on the $customer having his end setup right, so they blame us when their shit dont work
07:53 < dmcmorris> we have level 3 fiber right outside our office, and I
07:53 <@Shadow404> dmcmorris: heh, yeah, level is headquartered for atl, just downstairs
07:53 <@Shadow404> *level3
07:53 < dmcmorris> and I'm quite certain it runs near our outsourced datacenter... but they don't want to sublet any dark fibre for us ;)
07:53 <@wontonjoe> hybernia yay i can never understand them
07:53 < dmcmorris> Shadow404: oh yeah? I didn't know... cool ;)
07:54 <@wontonjoe> my favorite noc call is when i get people who call us from kuwait in the middle of the night and think i can do something lol
07:54 < dmcmorris> that makes sense then ;)
07:54 <@wontonjoe> shadow404 are you near WV
07:54 <@wontonjoe> the company
07:54 <@Shadow404> spell it out
07:55 <@wontonjoe> there ya go
07:55 <@wontonjoe> theyre picky about naming them
07:55 <@wontonjoe> we do all of there noc support
07:55 <@Shadow404> ah, understandable
07:55 <@Shadow404> nah, not ner them
07:56 <@wontonjoe> oh ok
07:56 <@wontonjoe> tey are in the same state i know that much
07:57 <@wontonjoe> we do a lot for charter too
07:57 <@wontonjoe> all over the us
07:57  * dmcmorris cracks something about charter needing a lot of work ;)
07:58 <@wontonjoe> charter is a pain, we get fined if they dont get alerted to an issue within about 5 mins
07:58 <@wontonjoe> and they are always like oh ya we knew about that
07:58 <@wontonjoe> so its like, why are we calling?
07:59 <@Shadow404> charter sucks
08:00 <@wontonjoe> agreed
08:00 <@wontonjoe> in lighter news, my friend out in california just found out his friends room mate is woz's son
08:01 <@Shadow404> no way
08:01 <@wontonjoe> yup
08:02 <@wontonjoe> hes wanting me to go out to california to hang out at some point im gonna have to, just to see if hes shitting me on all this stuff
08:02 <@wontonjoe> he works at hp
08:04 <@Dagmar> Cali is weird like that
08:05 <@wontonjoe> i know defcon freaked me out the first year i went because it was the same its like, heres capn crunch, kevin mitnick, patrick norton, im just like uhm ok is this hsit real, these are people ive only read about or saw on tv
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08:13 <@brimstone> google ownes doubleclick!?
08:13 <@brimstone> man, where have i been?
08:14 <@Dagmar> They bought them awhile back.
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08:21  * dmcmorris_esi has something funky going on :-/
08:22 <+MaxieZ> Ugh...hope it's not contagious.
08:26 < dmcmorris_esi> only if you try running IE on Linux ;)
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08:31 <@ladymerlin> morning Curbob
08:32 < Curbob> mornin
08:32 < Curbob> Root canal went fine, well fine enough i'm back at work this morning :(
08:32 <@ladymerlin> heh are you at least at work on fun drugs?
08:33 < Curbob> oh yeh darvaset (sp)
08:33 < dmcmorris_esi> that's basically potent acetaminophen
08:34 < dmcmorris_esi> (IE: Tylenol on steroids)
08:34 < dmcmorris_esi> ((and not good steroids either))
08:34 < Curbob> damn them!! lol
08:34 < Curbob> i demand better drugs
08:34 <@Dagmar> Don't worry, it's still very addictive.
08:34 < dmcmorris_esi> yeah... it's basically the lowest class of highly controlled drugs ;)
08:35 <+MaxieZ> Something opium based would be nice.
08:35 < Curbob> opium base, yeah that's all i need
08:35 < dmcmorris_esi> I did something a few years ago... the only pain relief that would make it tolerable was about 6 aspirin every 2 hours
08:36  * dmcmorris_esi pictures Curbob running poppy seeds through a coffee grinder and sniffing it up ;)
08:36 < Curbob> yes, i'd like 32 poppyseed muffins..
08:37 <@brimstone> hold the muffin
08:37 < Curbob> hahaha
08:40 <@Shadow404> does that work?
08:40 <@Shadow404> i know stupid question, but curious
08:40 < Curbob> doesn't it show up on drug test anyway
08:40 <@Shadow404> but does a coffee grinder and poppyseed work?
08:41 <@ladymerlin> if you eat enough of them it will, but youd need to eat a prety large amount
08:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Aspirin after surgery like that is a bit dangerous.  You really don't want to be thinning the blood while you're trying to heal
08:41 < Curbob> it may not get you high but an employeer thinks you have
08:41 <@Shadow404> heh, why is that?
08:41 <@ladymerlin> show up on a drug test that is
08:41 <@oddball> yup
08:41 <@oddball> Shadow404: where do you think heroin comes from?
08:43 <@Shadow404> well yeah, but doesnt it have to be processed
08:43 <@someninjaserver> oddball: you have a nagant dont you
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08:43 <@oddball> if they test for opium, a poppyseed bun will make you test positive
08:44 <@oddball> someninjaserver: yup, what you need to know?
08:44 <@someninjaserver> do you know of anyone local that has the chamber brushes
08:44 <@someninjaserver> or do you just use the toothbrush method
08:44  * dmcmorris_esi wonders what he started
08:44 <@oddball> I use a brush for a shotgun
08:45 <@Shadow404> oddball: yeah, tested positive for that after taking codeine for surgery
08:45 <@oddball> I can't remember the gauge off the top of my head though
08:45 <@someninjaserver> 20?
08:45 <@Shadow404> scotchick has the urine test from work
08:45 <@oddball> Isn't codeing a derivitive?
08:45 < Curbob> but usually if that shows positive they retest or figure it's poppyseeds
08:46 <@oddball> er codeine
08:46 <@oddball> Curbob: there are many drug testing places that will tell you that they don't make mistakes and the tests are error proof
08:47 <@oddball> (also known as lying their asses off)
08:47 <@someninjaserver> haha
08:47 < dmcmorris_esi> codine is an opiate I think... I don't recall
08:48 < skmurphy> i believe it is
08:48 < skmurphy> causes weird dreams
08:48 < skmurphy> the internet would know
08:48 <+MaxieZ> Yeah...codine, percasete
08:48 <@someninjaserver> or just knocks you the fuck out like me
08:48 <+MaxieZ> however you spell it.
08:49 < Curbob> that stuff gives me nightmares
08:50 < dmcmorris_esi> generic name is "Methylmorphone".  It is an opiate.  "Codeine is an alkaloid found in Opium"
08:50 < dmcmorris_esi> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codine)
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08:53 <@Shadow404> codiene is fun
08:53 <@oddball> ok, well... then it's a "no, duh" that Shadow404 tested positive for opium, he was legally perscribed it.
08:53 <@Shadow404> i only took 2 pills after my last surgery, so i got some for well, i mean, if im in pain
08:53 <@Shadow404> heh
08:54 <@oddball> I don't suppose you mentioned this when you got tested?
08:55 <+MaxieZ> ~dict opiate
08:55 <+MxZBot> Dictionary 'opiate' a narcotic drug that contains opium or an opium derivative
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09:14 <@aestetix> Why would someone go to blackhat but not defcon?
09:14 <@dc0de> aestetix; uh.. they might have something else to do that weekend?
09:14 <+MaxieZ> Because they're trying to be "professional"?
09:14 <@dc0de> they're playing "holier than thou"
09:15 <@aestetix> Some of my coworkers are doing that.
09:15 <@dc0de> They're just a pussy?
09:15  * Curbob knows someone like that, no comment
09:15 < Curbob> lol
09:15 <@dc0de> aestetix; well, then they're just stusers...
09:15 <@aestetix> I tried to say "I know a few people there you might want to hang out with" and got brushed off.
09:16 <@dc0de> they are the "security drones" that don't understand the information security world.
09:16 <@aestetix> Which sucks for them.
09:16 <@dc0de> they exist, solely for the SANS/BlackHat/RSA conferences, and all the money it costs the company
09:17 < Curbob> the person i talked to said he goes to BH for the networking and that DC isn't the greatest for that
09:17 <@dc0de> have they EVER gone to a Defcon?
09:17 <@dc0de> Curbob; then he doesn't know how to network?
09:17 <+MaxieZ> I've never been to either
09:17 <+MaxieZ> In fact, I've neverbeen to vegas.
09:17 <@dc0de> MaxieZ; you have to come to defcon this year.
09:17 <@dc0de> cheap flight, sleep on someone elses floor.
09:17 <@aestetix> I"ve been to DefCon 3 times
09:17 <@aestetix> Over six years
09:17 < Curbob> i think he's trying to network with company people and not the real workers/hackers
09:18 <@oddball> MaxieZ: I'm in the same boat... one of these years I need to go.
09:18 <@aestetix> I saw the change.
09:18 < Curbob> i've never gone, thinking about this year
09:18 <@aestetix> It's not worth it anymore.
09:18 < Curbob> before i get to old ;)
09:18 <@dc0de> Defcon is fun, and it is absolutely worth it...
09:18 <@aestetix> The only reason I'm going is to see one or two key people. If I go.
09:18 <@aestetix> dc0de: I disagree.
09:18 <@ziplock> never too old for DefCon
09:18 <@dc0de> aestetix; I can tell.
09:18 <@dc0de> amen ziplock
09:18 <@aestetix> I feel that it's a highschoolish gang bang of bullshit.
09:19 <@ladymerlin> aestetix: depends on ho you hang out with
09:19 <@ladymerlin> who
09:19 <@dc0de> aestetix; wow, I don't get that at all.
09:19 < Curbob> that's why i'd go
09:19 < Curbob> i guess it's who you hang with
09:19 <@dc0de> aestetix; I learn something new every year.
09:19 <@ziplock> maybe DefCon will take a look at outerz0ne and realize what a great idea it is to have a 'who is the oldest' contest :)
09:19 <@dc0de> and I have people who I network with, who introduce me to someone new every year.
09:19 <@aestetix> DefCon is too big.
09:20 <@aestetix> I'm not debating that there are quality people there.
09:20 <@aestetix> But I am arguing that you can find the same crowd and much less noise at toorcon.
09:20 <@dc0de> aestetix; you just don't hang out with them?
09:20 < Curbob> but toorcon like to run the same weekend as phreaknic :)
09:20 <@dc0de> I've never been to toorcon, since it's in an area where the flights aren't subsidized by gambling...
09:21 <@aestetix> Curbob: that was a case of silly planning.
09:21 <@dc0de> and Phreaknic is way better than toorcon...
09:21  * Curbob agrees
09:21 <@aestetix> Ok. Who wants to make parallels between DefCon and Burning Man?
09:21 <@aestetix> Or has DefCon not hit that point yet?
09:21 <+MaxieZ> I have a customer complaining that his developer in the phillipines is getting slower upload time than he is in the US.
09:21 <@dc0de> aestetix; I haven't been to burning man, so I can't comment
09:22 <@dc0de> MaxieZ; Fix it man! fix it!!!
09:22 <@aestetix> Well.... redefine the question.
09:22 <@aestetix> What do you go to DefCon for?
09:22 <@dc0de> Come on MaxieZ, we all know you have control of the magic switch!!
09:22 <@ziplock> I used to live in the Philippines, we didn't even have electricity half the time
09:22 < Curbob> hahaha
09:22 <@dc0de> aestetix; for the past three years, to work as a Goon.
09:22 <+MaxieZ> Right.  I've been working on a variable speed of light that increases the further away you are.
09:23 <+MaxieZ> It will help with networking and explaining how the earth is only 6000 years...I should be able to get some major backing.
09:23 <@dc0de> MaxieZ; start the conversation with, "Well I could try to help, however, it has to do with the propogation of the electrons on copper and photons on fiber.... "
09:24 <@brimstone> ooh, i love it when electrons and photons propogate!
09:24 <+MaxieZ> Seems kind of incestual to me.
09:24 <@dc0de> RULE 34!!!
09:26 <@dc0de> without that incestual propogation, we'd have no online streaming porn... so everyone just relax... it's perfectly normal.... resume your porn viewing....
09:26  * dc0de mumbles, "nothing to see here, keep moving... keep moving... "
09:26 <+MaxieZ> I got a hat from Penny.
09:26 <@dc0de> and by Hat you mean?
09:27 <+MaxieZ> It says, freeones.com and she wrote above it "Tomas did me @" and then below it she signed her name.
09:27 < Curbob> awwww.... OH!
09:27 <@dc0de> nice.
09:28 <+MaxieZ> apparently there is a shirt too, but it's apparently rather graphic about the events (which I have no recollection of).
09:28 <+MaxieZ> s/apparently//
09:28 < Curbob> went there to see what it was.. hummm boss should like that!
09:28 <+MaxieZ> Ouch sorry.
09:28 <@aestetix> But yeah. Stick to the smaller cons.
09:29 <+MaxieZ> I was talking about a porn star.  I should have clarified.
09:29 <@aestetix> Notacon, PhreakNIC, toorcon, and outerz0ne are where its at.
09:29 < Curbob> np, as bad as it sounds, they don't watch what we're doing here
09:30 < Curbob> which is why I can be on IRC
09:30 <@aestetix> At DefCon this year, I felt like I was being upheld to someone else's social standard. It was like people had suddenly changed to the purveyors of good in the world or some wierd bullshit. It gave me a strange fucked up vibe.
09:31 <+MaxieZ> I think my boss should pay for me to go to defcon myself...but so far he hasn't been willing.
09:31 <@dc0de> aestetix; I think you try to hard to analyze what people are doing.. .
09:31 <+MaxieZ> He just keeps expecting me to secure our servers and network with no training.
09:32 < Curbob> my boss let me take last friday off to work carolinacon and use it as a professional development day .. but i don't think i can talk him into DC
09:32 <@aestetix> dc0de: no, that would be catonic
09:33 <@aestetix> Curbob: DefCon is easy to work into.
09:33 <@aestetix> Just mention a few names that will be there and insist that it's an amazing arena for connections.
09:33 < Curbob> it's worth a try
09:37  * aestetix has never gotten work to pay for a con
09:37 <@aestetix> I wish Digg had a filter system to block out bullshit.
09:40 < Curbob> that would be 3/4 of all post
09:41 <@Shadow404> look what im troubleshooting: http://www.ebuco.be/freecaster/
09:41 <@Shadow404> red bull live webcast
09:41 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
09:41 < Curbob> mornin
09:41 <@dc0de> w00f!
09:41 <@ziplock> mornin'
09:42 <@SkyDog_> Woof!
09:42 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; www.dc0de.com
09:42 <@SkyDog_> We having fun yet?
09:42 <@dc0de> sfw
09:42 <+MaxieZ> Anyone know if you can do function clobbering with greasemonkey?
09:42 <@dc0de> MaxieZ; that's a scary thought...
09:42 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Thanks man!
09:42 <@dc0de> I don't see why not, since you're modifying the script, right?
09:43 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; no prob.......
09:43 <+MaxieZ> yeah...but I don't have access to the window namespace as far as I can tell.
09:43 <@ziplock> dc0de, we want Pictures!
09:43 <+MaxieZ> It looks like their functions are part of an internal namespace.
09:44 <+MaxieZ> I'm sure it's possible.  going to find out how ;)
09:44 <@dc0de> I don't have pics
09:46 <+MaxieZ> Nice...found the core .js file...now to make it my greasemonkey
09:46 <@dc0de> the "MaxiMonkey"
09:47 <@dc0de> or "Z'Monkey"
09:48 <@dc0de> Shadow404; that streaming link doesn't work...
09:49 <@dc0de> you're troubleshooting skills are now questionable
09:50 < dmcmorris_esi> arg... wtf is up with my e-mail!?1
09:50 <@Shadow404> dc0de: hey, thats why im troubleshooting, customer is changing some settings
09:52 < dmcmorris_esi> arg... wtf is up with my typing in the wrong window!?1 ;)
09:52 <@aestetix> Hey, anyone have a good connection to get a cheap RFID reader?
09:53 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: The correct spelling is 'schmuck'. :)
09:53 <@SkyDog_> aestetix: ebay.
09:53 <@aestetix> No, it really isn't.
09:53 <@dc0de> heh.
09:53 <@aestetix> I've been looking on there.
09:53 <@dc0de> Shadow404; what are they streaming? is it worth watching?
09:54 < dmcmorris_esi> I seem to recall Mouser or somesuch having a "hobby" RFID kit....
09:54 <@dc0de> dmcmorris_esi; wrong window again?
09:54 <@Shadow404> it was the red bull freestyle motorcycle thing
09:54 <@Shadow404> where they do the flips off the dirt ramps and shit
09:54 < dmcmorris_esi> no... for aestetix ;)
09:55 <@dc0de> well, then... hurry the fuck up and fix it!
09:55 <@Shadow404> heh
09:55 <@Shadow404> tell the custoemr to, geez
09:55 <@Shadow404> i can only tell him what he has setup wrong
09:55 <@dc0de> dammit
09:57 <@sasquatc4> aestetix: you can get a reader for ~30, if you dont mind rolling your own
09:57  * dc0de switches to watch masterblasters
09:57 <@aestetix> rolling my own?
09:57 <@aestetix> what does that mean?
09:57 <@sasquatc4> www.sparkfun.com
09:58 <@sasquatc4> gettin the reader chip
09:58 <@dc0de> aestetix; it comes from rolling your own cigarrets
09:58 <@dc0de> aestetix; it comes from rolling your own cigarettes
09:58 <@aestetix> I do not mind that
09:58 <@sasquatc4> youd have to do your own design to set it up and read the outputs
09:58 <@aestetix> dc0de: yes I know
09:58 <+MaxieZ> wow...I found out the story.  MaxieMonkey was the original monkey and was bad
09:58 <+MaxieZ> http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/6257
09:58 <@sasquatc4> just search for rfid on there, they got a couple reader chips, plus a breakout board already designed for one of them
09:59 <@sasquatc4> and a few demo boards too
09:59 <@aestetix> http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-125Khz-RFID-Proximity-ID-Identification-Reader_W0QQitemZ380011456090QQihZ025QQcategoryZ4661QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
09:59 <@dc0de> aestetix; just get a new passport... all the rfid you'll ever want to play with
09:59 <@aestetix> what about that?
10:00 <@dc0de> Shadow404; do they have it fixed yet?
10:01 < Curbob> been looking for a good antenna for my external NIC I bought at outerz0ne, thinking something like 15 dbi
10:02 <@Shadow404> dc0de: your worst than the customer
10:02 <@Shadow404> *worse
10:02 <@sasquatc4> that could probably work too
10:02 <@dc0de> Shadow404; well fuck... I wanna watch...
10:02 <@Shadow404> lawl
10:02  * Shadow404 makes not to self to not share any exciting streams with dcode
10:02 <@dc0de> Hey, when I was 5 yrs old, my Grandfather asked me what I wanted for my birthday.
10:03 <@Shadow404> and it was to watchi this stream?
10:03 <@dc0de> I told him "I want a watch", so he let me.
10:03 <@Shadow404> awwww
10:03 <@Shadow404> that could be taken so many ways
10:03 <@dc0de> more like ewwww
10:03 <@Shadow404> yeah
10:03 <@brimstone> Curbob: get one of the 500mw usb adapters?
10:04 <@SkyDog_> the alfas?
10:04 <@ladymerlin> i got one of those
10:05 < Curbob> i got the alfa one
10:05 < Curbob> not the small usb one but the larger one
10:05 < Curbob> awus036h
10:05 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, that one.
10:07 < Curbob> so i want a larger antenna for it
10:08 <@ziplock> Curbob, tuna (the seller at outerz0ne) has an ebay store.
10:08 <@ziplock> he doesn't have antennas listed, but I think he has some...
10:08 <@ziplock> I was talking with him yesterday, he's an old friend
10:08 <@brimstone> didn't he have panel antennas?
10:08 <@ziplock> yes, he had panels at the con, also normally has rubber ducks
10:09 < Curbob> may have to check it out, or hit frys on the way home fromwork its a block from me
10:09 <@ziplock> looking for his email addy
10:09 < Curbob> i have his card
10:09 <@ziplock> drop him an email, tell him I sent you :)
10:09 < Curbob> looking for 15 maybe 20dbi, i want to pick up access points for 2 miles lol
10:10 <@dc0de> Shadow404; any word yet?
10:11 < skmurphy> Curbob - how does that alfa treat you, particularly with linux?
10:12 <@brimstone> http://stores.ebay.com/SimpleWiFi_W0QQ_trksidZp1638.m118.l1247
10:12 <@ziplock> I've been using that Alfa with BackTrack for several months, it works fine.  Also heard great reports from ubuntu etc
10:12 <@ziplock> works especially well with aircrack-ng
10:12 <@brimstone> skmurphy: it uses the rtl driver, ubuntu gutsy has it
10:12 <@brimstone> ziplock: when you get network-manager to stay out of the way
10:12 <@ziplock> BackTrack has it too
10:12 < Curbob> haven't had time to play with it, but a friend has one and at carolinacon this weekend their network sucked, with windows you would keep losing connection, but he used his and with linux had a complete connection the entire time
10:12 <+coil> brimstone: i sux
10:13 <@ziplock> just use airmon-ng instead of network manager
10:13 <@brimstone> rtl8150 i believe
10:13 <+coil> i can't get my system to boot
10:13 <+coil> grub wont install on my /boot
10:14 <@SkyDog_> Did you ask it nicely?
10:14 <+coil> yeah
10:14 <+coil> then it failed 3 more times, so i cussed at it
10:14 <+coil> then set it on fire
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10:15 <@SkyDog_> Yo opfor.
10:15 <@Shadow404> dc0de: dont make me /ignore
10:15 <@dc0de> jeebus
10:16 <@Shadow404> ok, its playing for me directly from the stream
10:16 <@Shadow404> their customer player is broke
10:16 < opfor> Hey SkyDog_
10:16 <@dc0de> damn... how did they break it?
10:16 <@dc0de> config?
10:16 <+MxZBot> config is at the same place for the linksys wireless router between me and the modem.
10:16 <@ziplock> rtl8187, just looked at mine
10:17 <+coil> brimstone: do you know what the hd0,0 thing would be for a /dev/md0 device?
10:17 <@ziplock> ^^alfa
10:17 <@Shadow404> dc0de: i dont know, not my issue
10:17 <@Shadow404> plays from us
10:17 <@brimstone> for md0?
10:17 <@brimstone> can grub read an md0 device?
10:17 <+coil> or for the /dev/md0/boot thing
10:18 <@brimstone> usually you put /boot on /dev/[hs]da1/boot
10:18 <+MaxieZ> Not to my knowledge
10:18 <@brimstone> keep it small, then use the rest in the raid
10:18 <+MaxieZ> Well it can read that the kernels on it
10:18 <+MaxieZ> But it won't interpret it as a place to put the kernel.
10:18  * coil checks to see what it is
10:18 <+MaxieZ> er boot loader.
10:18 < Curbob> the only thing worse than decoding someone else's code is decoding my own!
10:18 <@Shadow404> yeah, their shit is broke
10:18 <+MaxieZ> You set root to md0, and the device to the drives.
10:19 <+MaxieZ> Then set up grub for each drive.
10:19 <@dc0de> Shadow404; do you have any other good streams that beat the crap out of what's on tv currently?
10:19 <@Shadow404> heh, the NOC live
10:19 <@Shadow404> heh
10:20 <@dc0de> Shadow404; any *exciting* *action-filled* streams?
10:20 <@Shadow404> damn, back to grey screen on their feed, guess their in commerical
10:21 <@dc0de> like sports or the freecaster.tv feed player is just revolving...
10:21 <+coil> so, 128mb is good enough for a /boot ?
10:21 <@dc0de> I dont even get that.
10:21 <+coil> cuz it looks like i have to fucking do all this shit over
10:21 <@brimstone> coil: yeah, 128 should be fine
10:21 < Curbob> dec0de: same here
10:21 <@brimstone> coil: if you want to get more hardcore, boot off a 128MB usb stick instead :)
10:21 <@brimstone> then you can use your whole disks for raid
10:22 <+coil> what about swap
10:22 <@brimstone> you can raid swap i know
10:22 <+coil> it was all crying last time i didn't do a swap
10:22 <@brimstone> above 2 gigs you really don't need swap
10:22 <@Shadow404> oh well, back to work with me
10:22 <@brimstone> unless you're gonna be doing a lot of ram intensive applications
10:22 <+coil> a'ight
10:23 <@brimstone> but your basic web browsing, email and gaming, 2 GB should be fine
10:23 < Curbob> it's craptastic!
10:23 <+coil> bootable flag?
10:23 <@brimstone> render farms, high end servers, etc, those will need more ram/swap
10:24 <@brimstone> wherever you're putting grub needs to be bootable, i think
10:24 <@brimstone> huh, my swap partition is set bootable, not my / on this box
10:25 <@brimstone> i think the bootable flag is just for old bootloaders and bioses to find what they need to boot from
10:25  * coil looks for flash drive
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10:25 <@Evilpig> got my chip pc in today.  this thing is tiny as shit
10:26 <@brimstone> coil, i don't recommend the usb key booting approach
10:26 < Curbob> got a link to one, i've been looking for something small to mess with
10:26 <@Evilpig> chippc.com
10:26 < Curbob> lol thatnks
10:27 <+coil> oh
10:27 <@Evilpig> if I had a camera here I would take a picture.  kind of annoyed that they didn't send a PoE injector and just assumed my switch was PoE enabled
10:27 <+coil> brimstone: should i throw an ide drive in there?
10:28 <@brimstone> coil: for my fileserver, i have one small 20G drive for / and the rest of the drives are in a raid
10:28 < Curbob> evilpig: are they all thinclient?
10:28 <+coil> why does this mobo only have one ide channel, but in the bios it says it has two
10:29 < dmcmorris_esi> does it say channels on the box?
10:30 <+coil> no
10:30 < dmcmorris_esi> one "connector" can have 2 devices (master and slave) for PATA...
10:30 <+coil> yeah
10:30 <+coil> it has one connector
10:31 < dmcmorris_esi> yeah... you should be able to do a Master device, and a Slave device
10:31 <+coil> those are both being used by the cd/dvdrom drives...
10:32 < dmcmorris_esi> oh ok... and you want to add more devices?
10:32 <+coil> yeah
10:32 <+coil> so i gotta unplug one
10:32 < dmcmorris_esi> for that, you could probably use either SATA-IDE adapters, or get an IDE controller card
10:32 <@Evilpig> yes
10:32 < dmcmorris_esi> or, yes, unplug one ;)
10:33 <@Evilpig> looking at using them for student computer labs, office users etc.
10:33 <+coil> i heard some bad things about those sata-ice adapters
10:33 <+coil> but that was when sata first came out
10:33 <@Evilpig> the power savings are huge and the complexity is way diminished from normal computer labs
10:34 < Curbob> oh i agree, we are looking into the same kind of thing but using cirtix for firms around the US
10:37 <@aestetix> Hey anyone want a good scare?
10:37 <@aestetix> Read the Yoo memo
10:37 <@aestetix> http://www.aclu.org/safefree/torture/34745res20030314.html
10:48 <@aestetix> dc0de: you around?
10:49 <@dc0de> aestetix; yup
10:54 <+coil> can i not use fdisk to view my partition table on a md0?
10:54 <+coil> cuz it's not picking up on whatever dev i throw at fdisk
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11:00 <@polerin> I am So fucking tired of people temping shit
11:02 <@Dagmar> coil: Generally that's a sign your md isn't initialized.
11:02 <@Dagmar> Don't ask me how to do it, I use LVM.
11:03 <+coil> oh
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11:05 <@Dagmar> Basically, with LVM you don't use fdisk to do it IIRC.  I don't have the HOWTO in front of me
11:05 <+coil> http://www.dearbulkmailer.com/ Use "Postage Paid" Envelopes to mail a brick to junk mailers!
11:05 <+coil> im sure i can find a howto if i actually justfuckinggoogleit
11:06 <@Dagmar> With md IIRC you're working at creating a phony physical disk, so fdisk *should* be the thing to do it, but you might have been doing it in a manner similar to LVM so yeah, jfgi and you should find it in minutes
11:07 <@Dagmar> I have a better solution for junk mailers, since the post office for my area actually refuses to let you file to be taken out of those lists
11:07 <@Dagmar> I leave the junk mail in the mailbox until the thing is close to bursting.
11:07 <@dc0de> I like that idea... I can clean my house by sending all my old "crap" to the bulk mailers...
11:09 < dmcmorris_esi> ya know... doing that may actually keep postage low... increasing the volume of mail (and, thusly, increasing the USPS income)
11:09 <@dc0de> exactly...
11:10 <@dc0de> Q: Does this help American families?
11:10 <@dc0de> A: Yes. The United States postal Service employs nearly two million people. These numbers are going down drasticly because of increased e-mail use. This junk mail program signifigantly increases USPS income generation, which allows the government to employ more people. We at Dear Bulk Mailer are pro-family, pro-jobs, and pro-America.
11:10 < dmcmorris_esi> ha!
11:10 <@dc0de> I'm going to do it...
11:10 <@dc0de> I'm looking for no postage necessary envelopes right now
11:11 <@dc0de> I think I shredded one earlier today.
11:12 <+coil> ol
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11:20 <@Dagmar> Point of information, the last time I heard of it, it wasn't kosher to strap things to the prepaid envelope.  It was, however, quite legal to put a sheet of lead or something in there, provided it doesn't exceed the thickness of the envelope.
11:21 <@Dagmar> A buncha scrap pennies would probably work, too.
11:29 <@ziplock> I usually send the contents of one junk mail into the envelope of junk mail from another company.  Recycle!
11:31 < ware> son of a bitch
11:31 < ware> i still have to do my taxes
11:31 < ware> and i still dont have my last W2
11:31 < ware> lol
11:31 < ware> fuxxx
11:31 <+coil> good job
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11:36 <@someninjaserver> aww man
11:36 <@someninjaserver> administrator left before i could kick him
11:36 < dmcmorris_esi> :-D
11:36 <+coil> administrator__:
11:36 <@SkyDog_> Heh. That was opfor.
11:37 <@someninjaserver> oh
11:37 <@someninjaserver> hahaha
11:37 < dmcmorris_esi> ware: They have to get you your W2 by, like february... if you have your last paystub, there's an IRS form for "alternate W2"
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11:38 <@Dagmar> I've got some nice shitlists in place now.
11:39 < ware> im not sure if it was the last one or not
11:39 <@Dagmar> Doens't really matter much
11:40 <+coil> shitlists?
11:40 < ware> i thought you had to have the total?
11:40 <@Dagmar> You do.
11:40 <@Dagmar> Paystubs show this.
11:40 <@Dagmar> Your final paystub from 2007.   Ahem.
11:41 < dmcmorris_esi> yeah... last paystub from 2007 ;)
11:41 <+coil> durrr
11:41 <@Dagmar> If you're trying to use your most recent paystub from the end of January, you should buy some condoms with your tax refund.
11:41 < ware> yes, i was retired from that job in october but i dont know that i have the last paystub
11:41 <+coil> ware how do you breathe sometimes
11:41 <@Dagmar> ware: Well, either way they're supposed to have sent a W-2 to your last address.
11:41 < ware> coil: this is not an epenis fight, you dont have to worry about taxes cause papa johns pays what? 7.50/hr?
11:42 <@Dagmar> If you don't know the data, go ahead and mail off a ... fuck what form is it...
11:42 <@Dagmar> 1040X I think
11:42 <@Dagmar> It's an automatic 45-day extension request.  No problems, no penalties.
11:42 <+coil> i get money back
11:42 <@Dagmar> Of course, if you don't owe money, they won't say shit about you filing late.
11:42 <+coil> cuz i didn't report tips last year
11:42 <+coil> cuz it's stupid
11:42 < ware> cool, my former employeer was supposed to send me another W2 to my current address
11:42 <@Dagmar> In fact, after a certain number of years, money they owe you just automatically goes toward the national debt (no joke)
11:42 < ware> and i requested that about 3 weeks ago and havent seen it
11:43 <@Dagmar> 3 weeks is a bit long to wait.
11:43 <@Evilpig> I have yet to file as well.  but at least I have all my paperwork together, kinda
11:43 < ware> yeah kinda forgot about taxes hehe
11:43 <@Dagmar> Go over to the IRS's site and get the deadline extention form anyway
11:43 <@Dagmar> Filing online takes about an hour if you're both high and drunk.
11:43 < dmcmorris_esi> deadline is (I believe) Apr 15 also... but anything you (may) owe still has to be paid by 4/15
11:44 <@brimstone> does that account for the time dilation while high?
11:44 <@Evilpig> dag I have to file long form.  
11:44 <@Dagmar> 15th is on a workday this year, so that's definitely the deadline
11:44 <@Evilpig> I just need to get over to my accountant
11:44 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Ouch
11:44 <@rattle> Argh..  I'm filing right after I get paid on last month's invoice.
11:44 <@Dagmar> Evilpig; You better do it quick so he doesn't hate you for being in the last-minute crows
11:44 < ware> i should be getting a bunch back
11:44 <@Evilpig> as long as I get it to him this week i'm good
11:44 <@rattle> This year is an expensive one..  All my income was 1099.
11:44 <@Dagmar> s/crows/crowd/;
11:45 <@Evilpig> I told him this year was gonna be fubar when I talked to him about writing off a bed as a medical expense.  heh
11:45 <@rattle> So next week, I get the joy of draining a good chunk of the savings account I use to withhold my own tax.
11:45 <@rattle> It's always a very sad day.
11:47 <@dc0de> I'm paying $250 net.
11:47 <@dc0de> I owe Fed ~550, and getting back ~200 from state
11:48 <@Dagmar> rattle: Hey, it could be worse.
11:48 < Curbob> wife and I make double what we did last year, so we are screwed this year
11:48 <@Dagmar> You could have *not* been stashing that tax money away
11:48 <@Dagmar> ...and in the meantime you got a little interest on it.
11:48 <@Dagmar> Curbob: How does that screw you?
11:49 <@Dagmar> Your office has it's payroll accountants riding in on the short bus?
11:49 <@Dagmar> Employers should be deducting based on your expected income for the year.
11:49 < Curbob> i thought we would get more back but we're not , last year maybe 2400 back, this year like 1200
11:49 <@Dagmar> Things only work out in your _favor_ if you got a huge raise or something
11:50 < Curbob> you would think since we work for a network of 150 accounting firms, but NO!
11:50 <@Dagmar> Like, if you change jobs in the middle of the year to one that pays much more, the new job will be witholding as if you were making the higher rate all year long usually, which gives you a nice buffer.
11:50 <@Dagmar> With the same income all year long, about the only reason you don't come out break-even at the end is overtime hours or the "sawteeth" of the scheduling table.
11:51 < Curbob> probably that happened since i only worked 4 months of last year
11:51 <@aestetix> ugh so tired
11:53 <@nachoguy> this was a bad year for taxes for me too
11:54 <@nachoguy> cashed in some old stocks to help pay for downpayment.  got killed on the fed taxes
11:54 <@dc0de> cashing in always costs...
11:56 <@nachoguy> yeah
11:56 <@nachoguy> well, we lost some money on some of it, so it blunted it
11:56 <@nachoguy> but not enough
11:56 <@nachoguy> then car insurance was due this month too (yearly) so it's been a bad month money wise
11:57 <@Evilpig> alright quick, stupid question here.  Really I just want to make sure I am right.  I have a dell  optiplex 320 with an onboard ati card.  they installed a pci nvidia card.  the onboard will not work with an external card installed.  right?
11:58 < ware> check bios
11:58 <@brimstone> likely not Evilpig
11:59 <@Evilpig> radeon xpress 1100 is what it claims to have.  whenever I install the latest drivers for it.  I get a 7e bluescreen.
12:05 < ware> id install drivers for the pci card with it out of the system
12:05 < ware> then disable onboard and put the pci card in
12:05 < ware> set it to be the primary monitor then enable the onboard on
12:06 <@nachoguy> http://www.crossville-chronicle.com/opinion/local_story_092184403.html?keyword=topstory
12:07 < ware> ROFL nice
12:12 <@polerin> fyi, nashville looks like it's in the running for being one ofthe first test markets in the south for docsis 3
12:13 <@polerin> no eta but s'nice
12:13 <@dc0de> polerin; any word on Georgia?
12:14 <@polerin> no clue, my word was from the director of tech ops in nashville
12:14 <@dc0de> ahh.
12:14 <@dc0de> bummer
12:14 <@polerin> he's unconcerned about georgia for some strange reason
12:14 <@polerin> :D
12:14 <+coil> comcast getting their shit together?
12:15 <@Evilpig> I just told her it wouldn't work and to get a dual headed card instead
12:15 <@dc0de> yeah, tell him I said, "thanks"
12:15 <@Evilpig> didn't feel like fucking with it to be honest
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12:18 < ware> haha nice
12:23 <@nachoguy> http://i28.tinypic.com/2ih75hg.jpg
12:26 < Curbob> sent that to my wife, she's director of women's leadership
12:27 < dmcmorris_esi> lol@11 ;)
12:27 <@dc0de> Curbob; you're not getting laid soon.
12:27 < dmcmorris_esi> ;)
12:27 < Curbob> D'oH
12:27 < ware> nachoguy: whys it say September / October 2007 at the bottom
12:28 < ware> oh nvm
12:28 < ware> im dumb
12:28 < dmcmorris_esi> well, he could've attached a note "Can you believe those snobby chauvinist men from the 1940's? Thank god it changed now!" ;)
12:28 < Curbob> good save
12:29 <@polerin> pic sfw?
12:30 < Curbob> yes
12:34 <@someninjaserver> haha
13:24 < Curbob> how can you tell what frequency range your cell phone is?
13:25 <+MaxieZ> Count them.
13:25 <@dc0de> put it in the microwave, and press the number 5, step back and count to 60.
13:25 < Curbob> i don't have that many fingers
13:25 <@dc0de> if it doesn't explode, then it's not a cell phone.
13:25 < Curbob> ouch
13:25 <@polerin> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/04/03/1219200.shtml
13:25 <@polerin> wow
13:26 <+coil> http://nekomimi.cx/~pda/op_masturbation.jpg pic is sfw, but it has "masturbation" in the file name
13:27 < Curbob> lol
13:27 < Curbob> i want this http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/9823/
13:28 < Curbob> ok i guess it goes buy your provider
13:29 <@Evilpig> by
13:29 < Curbob> lol thanks
13:29 <+coil> old roommates wanted to get that
13:30 < Curbob> 250 isn't bad
13:30 <+coil> cuz inside that old ass house we would get shit for reception
13:30 < Curbob> same for in our basement
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13:50 <@aestetix> SkyDog_: what do you do when a speaker contacts you the day before his talk and tells you he can't make it?
13:50 <@SkyDog_> You talk shit about him in front of the entire con.
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13:51 <@dc0de> how about the DAY of the con?
13:51 <@SkyDog_> Usually, you have a fall back person to take his spot.
13:51 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: You cut his balls off when he's not expecting it.
13:52 <@aestetix> Heheh
13:52 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; heh... of course... then you hang them around his neck for all to see.
13:52 <@aestetix> Note: this isn't about me. I have a friend who's about to do it.
13:52 <@SkyDog_> aestetix: Which con? Notacon?
13:52 <@ShadowHntr> lol
13:52 <@ladymerlin> you display his hone number to the whole crowd
13:52 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: i heard outerz0ne rocked. :)
13:52 <@aestetix> I told him to email the Notacon people *now* and let them know what's going on.
13:52 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: It did.
13:52 <@dc0de> ladymerlin; and cell. and spouses name, and SSN...
13:52 <@SkyDog_> Why is he bailing?
13:52 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: Sorry for the unexpected call yesterday, was in Bellevue on a work order and wanted to see if anyone wanted to do lunch.
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13:52 <@aestetix> He has a paper due on monday.... apparently for some AI society. He's trying to get into grad school.
13:53 <@rattle> You burn their speaker swag as an effigy of them.
13:53 <+coil> wutz a opfor?
13:53 <+coil> "for kicking"
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> "Rules are made to be broken !"
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> "Noses are made to be broken."
13:53 <+coil> OpFor: are you still an administrator?
13:54 <@aestetix> Since you know.... they'll have to print out amendments to the programs, update the speaker list, etc
13:54 <@aestetix> Assuming he bails.
13:54 <@dc0de> if he bails, it's his balls.
13:54 <@aestetix> Me on the other hand
13:54 <@aestetix> I've put too much work into this talk to bail
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13:55 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: ping
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14:02 <@Evilpig> words to think on for the day.  it is not okay to make fun of someone, however it is okay to mock them.
14:02 <@aestetix> wow
14:02 <@aestetix> on this talk
14:02 <@SkyDog_> Mock mock mock...
14:02 <@aestetix> this guy's title is
14:02 <@dc0de>   Evilpig
14:02 <@ShadowHntr> Evilpig: what if that someone can't tell the difference (either because they're an idiot or you're bad at discerning the difference...) :P
14:02 <@dc0de> Evilpig; I'm mocking you...
14:02 <@Evilpig> my secretary at the office is fucking retarded.  :)
14:02 <@aestetix> GCFA Gold, CISSP, MCTS, MCDBA, MCSD, MCSE
14:02 <@aestetix> how many fucking certs do you need
14:02 <@dc0de> aestetix; CEH... ftw!
14:02 <@Evilpig> [13:47] Brit: now you are making fun of me
14:02 <@Evilpig> [13:47] Wilpig: no, this is mocking
14:02 <@Evilpig> [13:47] Brit: oh well thats ok then
14:03 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL Evilpig
14:03 <@aestetix> I prefer my CLITS cert
14:03 <@dc0de> Evilpig; he's a fucking brit...
14:03 <@Evilpig> short for britney
14:03 <@Evilpig> she's a twit
14:05 <@Shadow404> aestetix: clits is good
14:05 <@Evilpig> alright back to work now.  hope that brightened up your day
14:06 < R3d2Dawn> Question for everyone...Would you file Partitioning software under "Folder & File" or under "Disc Drive" Tools?
14:06 <@SkyDog_> disc drive
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14:07 <@aestetix> It's my special cert
14:07 <@aestetix> Cisco Licensed Information Technology Specialist
14:08 <@dc0de> aestetix; I'm GSCL - G-Spot Certified Locator
14:08 <@aestetix> ooh I like that
14:08 < R3d2Dawn> Does anyone know what hotel is being used for Summercon?
14:09 <@SkyDog_> Nope.
14:09 <@aestetix> The Alexis Park
14:09 < R3d2Dawn> So where is it being held exactly?
14:09 <@dc0de> http://summercon.org/node/79
14:10 <@dc0de> well, I just tried the novel idea of checking the website... and unbelievably, it is posted.
14:10 <@dc0de> I guess reading really is Fundimental.
14:10 < R3d2Dawn> just checked my self
14:10 < R3d2Dawn> I guess I could of checked again before asking
14:10  * R3d2Dawn Banging head on wall
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14:11 <@dc0de> amazingly, the hotel booking notification was put on the site today, at 7:02PM
14:11 < Curbob> the date was just added to the site like an hour ago :)
14:11 <@dc0de> I'm assuming that's UTC
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14:27 < R3d2Dawn> Is anyone going to Summercon?
14:28 < R3d2Dawn> or is it worth going?
14:28 <@dc0de> I missed it last year, and heard it was great.
14:29 < Curbob> great talks, lots of drinking by noon
14:29 < R3d2Dawn> Not sure I consider this event planned well in advance
14:29 <@someninjamaster> wheres it at
14:29 <@dc0de> someninjamaster; see topic
14:29 < R3d2Dawn> We are just now getting hotel info and dates, still don't have a schedule yet
14:29 < Curbob> last year it was planned in 3 weeks
14:30 <@someninjamaster> oh its in ga
14:30 < R3d2Dawn> I guess it  a big step up then
14:30 <@someninjamaster> fuck ga and everyone that lives there
14:30 <@dc0de> someninjamaster; you and your bad attitude...
14:30 <@someninjamaster> haha
14:30  * dc0de shakes his finger at someninjamaster 
14:30 < Curbob> hey now! lol
14:30 <@aestetix> Too many cons.
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14:31 < R3d2Dawn> now is the hotel rate listed on the site for one night or for the entire event? basically 2 nights?
14:31 <@someninjamaster> im curious if anyone ever goes to atlanta for a vacation
14:31 < R3d2Dawn> Their is Six Flags, So probably so
14:31 <@someninjamaster> or if everones there for the airport of cons
14:31 < Curbob> it's usually post as 1 night
14:32 < R3d2Dawn> fuck..thats about 258 for the even
14:32 < R3d2Dawn> not to mention gas to get their and food
14:32 < Curbob> it's in midtown, a nice area
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14:32 < Curbob> stay one night.. only talks on saturday
14:32 < R3d2Dawn> possibly
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14:33 < Curbob> drive in sat morning talks will start at like noon stay sat night
14:34 < R3d2Dawn> Its only a four hour drive so may just drive up it sat morning
14:34  * Curbob nods
14:34 < R3d2Dawn> and drive home
14:34 < R3d2Dawn> Besides who needs sleep anyway
14:35 < R3d2Dawn> Just sleep in a car
14:35 < R3d2Dawn> I only sleep about 5 hours a day anyway
14:35 < R3d2Dawn> I am out for a bit l8tr
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14:46 < R3d2Dawn> I seriously hope their site is wrong, according to their site they only offer dial-up data port for internet access
14:47 < R3d2Dawn> the hotel for summercon
14:48 <@SkyDog_> Jebus.
14:48 < R3d2Dawn> well when you go check pricing it states dial up internet
14:48 <@SkyDog_> My free con had wireless...
14:48 < R3d2Dawn> but their main stie states high speed under ammenities
14:48 < R3d2Dawn> phew...
14:50 < R3d2Dawn> Definately not staying at this hotel is going to be 244 dollars for just the two nights
14:50 < R3d2Dawn> I would rather not sleep
14:50 <@someninjamaster> skydog we cant say much
14:50 <@someninjamaster> we had to wire ours ourselves
14:50 <@someninjamaster> at phreaknic
14:53 <@ladymerlin> bbut it was done before phreaknic
14:54 <@someninjamaster> well some of it was
14:54 <@someninjamaster> i think we had to do like 6 rooms after it
14:55 <@SkyDog_> True.
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15:04 <@aestetix> Ok, channel question
15:04 <@aestetix> What comes to mind when I say "tuple"?
15:05 <@rhia> parentheses
15:05 <@nachoguy> one more than a duble
15:06 <@aestetix> rhia: oooh, good answer
15:13 <@Evilpig> can anyone in here tell me palindrome's current phone number?  I have one in my phone but need to see if it is right
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15:23 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: aestetix has a message for her
15:24 <@Evilpig> huh?
15:26 <@Shadow404> ask him in pm
15:29 <@Shadow404> oh, Evilpig i think you can find her number on the bathroom stall i heard
15:29 <@Shadow404> im not sure what motel or truck stop that is
15:31 <+coil> i've seen it on a few places
15:31 <@Shadow404> is that the restroom that was out of condoms in the dispenser
15:31 <+coil> one of them, yes
15:44 <@Shadow404> explains alot
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15:56 < Curbob> Comcast offers 50 Mbps Internet, but it won't come cheap
15:56 < Curbob> The new Internet service will cost $150 per month and will offer 50 Mbps download and 5 Mbps in upload speeds.
15:56 <@nachoguy> $150.  hardly worth it
15:56 < dmcmorris_esi> is that for residential, business, or both?
15:56 < Curbob> only if i'm running servers at home
15:57 <@Dagmar> I'd almost consider paying that if they'd let me host
15:57 <@nachoguy> 50 Mbps theoretical, so like 10 in reality
15:57 < Curbob> yep
15:57 <@brimstone> Curbob: got a link to back this up?
15:57 <+coil> pics or shens!!!!!!!!!!
15:57 < Curbob> http://www.betanews.com/article/Comcast_offers_50_Mbps_Internet_but_it_wont_come_cheap/1207246369
15:58 <+coil> Analysts first believed the service would launch in areas where AT&T U-Verse and Verizon FiOS have taken hold,
15:58 <+coil> yeah fuck you uverse
15:58 <+coil> you pos
15:58 < Curbob> lol
15:59 <@polerin> yes Curbob, I already posted that ;p
15:59 <@polerin> well not THAT story
15:59 <@polerin> but believe it or not nashville looks like it may be a test market
16:02 < Curbob> nice
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16:02 <+coil> hax
16:15 <+coil> Google to make first big job cuts
16:17 < ware> so i locked my fuckin keys in the company van
16:17 <@dc0de> ware; hrm... that sux
16:18 <@Dementia> Oh, they're laying off peopel from a company they bought, not Google employees
16:18 <+coil> ohh, doubleclick
16:24 <@nachoguy> coil, I thought you liked uverse
16:24 <+coil> when it works
16:24 <@nachoguy> I'm still thinking about getting them to come out and install it
16:24 <@nachoguy> flaky?
16:24 <+coil> but it's pretty piss poor when the dvr records a blank screen
16:24 <@nachoguy> flakier than comcast?
16:24 <+coil> and its a "known issue"
16:24 <+coil> and they haven't done shit about it yet
16:25 <@dc0de> coil; at least is it a "good" recording?
16:25 <+coil> and sales are LYING to the customers faces
16:25 <@nachoguy> meh, I might just get their tuner and hook it up to a myth box
16:25 <+coil> saying it's fiber to you house
16:25 <@nachoguy> it's fiber to the node
16:25 <+coil> then they get pissed when i say its not
16:25 <@nachoguy> and copper to your house
16:26 <+coil> nachoguy: only a select few customers have fttp
16:26 <+coil> and theres nothing special about it
16:26 <@nachoguy> sure there is, it extends the fuck out of their dsl range
16:27 <@nachoguy> 10 mbs >> 128kbps
16:27 <+coil> i've NEVER seen anyone get 10mbs
16:27 <@nachoguy> uverse vs regular dsl at my house
16:27 <+coil> they have the worst speeds
16:27 <+coil> i've seen people do a speed test, and get 128k
16:27 <+coil> when they're paying for 6mb
16:27 <+coil> during non peak hours
16:28 <@nachoguy> arg, so I've got an interesting asterisk race condition
16:29 <@nachoguy> call in to the pbx and log in as an agent.  unplug your phone/kill your softphone in a manner that does not hang up.  your sip peer status will eventually get set to unreachable.  the agent stays "logged in" and accepts calls.
16:30 <@nachoguy> and apparently our call center reps aren't smart enough to not do this
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16:46 < ware> weee
16:51 <@ladymerlin> whee
16:51 <@dc0de> oi' oi'
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16:57 <@dc0de> but not on me.
17:00 < ware> think ima goto lowes
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17:00 < ware> SPAM
17:00 <+coil> DCC SEND "STFU.EXE" 0 0 0
17:00 < ware> i want to get some hooks to put in the wall so i can hang my hammock in my room hehe
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17:01 <@dc0de> ware; you're going to be broke when you come home.
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17:36 <@dc0de> http://www.memestreams.net/users/dc0de/blogid10326567/
17:43 <@nachoguy> nice
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17:58 <@brimstone> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/15
17:58 <+coil> spam
17:59  * coil gets bigger e-penis for having TEH BESTEST BROWSER UPTIME
18:02 <@ShadowHntr> lol
18:02 <@ShadowHntr> :)
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18:15 <@nachoguy> meh, lately my firefox has been unstable
18:16 < AstralSin> my firefox has always been unstable... but i love it anyway
18:16 < AstralSin> i think flash is the culprit though
18:17 <+coil> people say ff sux
18:17 <@nachoguy> I'm fairly certain that flash is the culprit for me lately
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18:24 < ware> hey coil: http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8944/1192016018491tz5.jpg
18:26 <@dc0de> who here is a guru on syslog-ng
18:27 < AstralSin> what do you need to know?
18:27 <+coil> no tranny ppanties ware?
18:27 <@dc0de> for syslog-ng forwarding, how do I keep the IP of the original logging device from being changed when I forward my logs to another syslog server?
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18:28 < AstralSin> *shrug*
18:28 <@dc0de> keep_hostname (true) ???
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18:28 < AstralSin> sounds good to me :)
18:28 <@dc0de> ok.
18:28 < AstralSin> also sounds like something i might wanna do, ive never tried forwarding logs
18:29 <@dc0de> shit, I need to figure this out...
18:29 <@dc0de> quickly.
18:29 <@dc0de> I thought that this was fixed in syslog-ng, and I was just told that it wasnt...
18:29 <@dc0de> grrr.
18:29  * dc0de jumps on google.
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18:54 <@nachoguy> DAMNIT
18:54 <@nachoguy> I was getting on teh elevator to leave when one of the helpdesk guys calls me with a problem, so I'm now missing my train
18:54 <@nachoguy> public transportation is great, so long as it leaves when I want to leave; which is never
18:55 <@dc0de> yeah, I don't have it.. so keep rubbing it in.
19:03 <+MaxieZ> I feel you nachoguy
19:05 <@nachoguy> and the helpdesk guy got it wrong, so I stupidly trusted him, and booted people on a working server
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19:05 <@dc0de> MaxieZ; are you familiar with syslog-ng?
19:05 <@nachoguy> and then had to cycle the actual broken box.  Which fucked up for the 5th time today
19:05 <@nachoguy> and is slated to be reinstalled in less than 4 hours
19:06 <@nachoguy> and I'm just venting, so don't mind me too much
19:06 <+MaxieZ> dc0de: I've used it...it's just a syslogger...why?
19:08 <@dc0de> I'm curious about forwarding from it.
19:09 <+MaxieZ> Like remote logging?
19:11 <@nachoguy> we've got a couple of guys using it for that.  remote syslogging, and they're evaluating some appliances to tear through the logs
19:14 <+MaxieZ> perl!
19:14 <+MaxieZ> ftw!
19:14 <+MaxieZ> Alright...I'm outta here...Later
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19:18 <@nachoguy> perls good, but I guess some of the appliances have some nice features, and I wouldn't want our developers building something I need to trust
19:20 < AstralSin> i never got perl, i always liked python better
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19:26 <@nachoguy> it may have been that I learned perl first, but python always struck me with a "why should I bother" sort of feeling
19:27 <@nachoguy> perl is tmtowtdi and iirc, python is supposed to be "there is only one way to do it"
19:29 < AstralSin> different strokes for different folks, i guess
19:30 < AstralSin> i do appreciate the power of perl though
19:37 <@nachoguy> I appreciate (though am not fully versed in) the ability to write concise, barely legible code that does fantastic things.
19:38 <@nachoguy> Also, I am a bash oneliner fanatic
19:38 <@nachoguy> so perl is great for that too
19:38 <@nachoguy> buu however, is the fucking master of perl oneliners
19:42 <@nachoguy> I think I might pick up php again
19:43 <@nachoguy> I never really liked it, but I want to dick around with a nice CMS, and joomla is pretty snazzy
19:43 < AstralSin> ive gotten fairly proficient with php
19:43 < AstralSin> i used to be a joomla fanboy but it got to feeling too bloaty for me after a while
19:43 < AstralSin> so i started coding my own
19:44 < AstralSin> i've got the blog component done, fairly happy with it, just needs some polish
19:45 <@nachoguy> I wrote part of one myself, but I don't really have time for it
19:45 <@nachoguy> so joomla is something that gets peer review, has modules, that I don't have to wade though source code to fix
19:46 <@nachoguy> I am more than capable
19:46 <@nachoguy> but if they have a security fix "just apply this patch", well, all the better
19:47 < AstralSin> yeah, its pretty handy
19:47 < AstralSin> my desire to write my own was more an exercise in learning php than anything else
19:47 < AstralSin> i just got tired of php, it was always *almost* what i wanted but not quite, same was true for all the componenets, mambots, and modules i could find
19:48 <@nachoguy> I know the feeling
19:49 <@nachoguy> well, I'm going to go and try to catch the next train
19:49 <@nachoguy> catch you later
19:50 < AstralSin> later
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19:58  * dc0de flips to the Braves game on Sports South... 
19:58  * coil gets annoyed when people bitch and moan about sports blackouts
19:59 <@dc0de> PIT @ ATL, 2 - 0, bottom of the 6th.
19:59 <@dc0de> coil; who's bitching?
19:59 <+coil> idiot customers
19:59 <+coil> not you...
19:59 <@dc0de> oh
19:59 <@dc0de> ok
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19:59 <+coil> im sure you can view an atl braves game
19:59 <+coil> but it pisses me off when people out of the viewing area trys to watch it like they own the network
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20:00 <@dc0de> oh, well...
20:00 <@dc0de> that's why newspapers still are in circulation... to serve the boonies.
20:01 <@dc0de> nice, Braves score.
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20:03 <@dc0de> wow... that was awesome
20:03 <@dc0de> Matt Diaz took out the 2nd Baseman to stop a double-play...
20:04 <@dc0de> 2 on, 2 out,
20:04 <@dc0de> 2 - 0 count...
20:05 < sdodson> took out?
20:05 <@dc0de> knocked him off his feet while sliding into the bag at 2nd.
20:05 <@dc0de> TIE GAME!
20:05 <@dc0de> w00t!
20:06 < sdodson> I didn't know you liked basketball.
20:06 <@dc0de> it's the only sport I watch
20:06 <@dc0de> and I only root for the braves... when they're winning
20:07 <@dc0de> nice... shortstop error on a drilled ground ball, and braves score again!
20:08 < sdodson> firefox beta 5 = fail
20:08 <+coil> hwy fail
20:08 <+coil> it sux like the last 4 betas?
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20:14 < AstralSin> i heard the last beat kicked ass, alleviated the memory leak
20:14 < AstralSin> have i been mislead?
20:16 < ware> whoop whoop
20:16 < ware> man im racking up cred @ work like no other
20:16 < ware> politics is easy
20:16 < ware> just bend over for uppermanagement
20:19 < sdodson> I didn't know you considered tim to be upper management.
20:20 < ware> tim a lil biatch
20:20 <+coil> lllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyylllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
20:21 <@dc0de> ware; who are you blowing now?
20:25 < ware> well i got my boss taking me out for $250 bar tabs and $100 strip club tabs
20:25 <@brimstone> only $100?
20:25 < ware> i got his boss on my good graces just by talkin to her everyday
20:25  * coil kills some hookers
20:25 < ware> her boss is a dick and he doesnt like me
20:25 <@brimstone> put the video game down coil
20:25 < ware> but then his boss, the ceo, just dropped me off and we had some interesting conversation
20:25 <+coil> it's not a video game!
20:25 < ware> but i think he likes me
20:25 <+coil> it's real life
20:26 < ware> brimstone: he paid for the byob, the cover, and a lap dance for me
20:26 < ware> then i gave him $20 in 1's
20:26 <@brimstone> that's style
20:26 <@brimstone> next time you go to a strip club, pay with dollar coins
20:27 <+coil> kthx
20:27 <@dc0de> brimstone; they fall out of the slot too easily... I've found you have to tape them to bowling balls just so the girls can hold on to them.
20:30 <@brimstone> dc0de: sounds like a classic case of NMP
20:30 < sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91h6WhFiAcY
20:30 <@dc0de> sdodson; SFW?
20:30 < sdodson> I think so.
20:31 <@dc0de> but don't you work from home?
20:31 < sdodson> no
20:31 <@brimstone> sdodson usually doesn't post NSFW stuff, but when he does, you don't want to miss it
20:32 <@dc0de> sdodson; this is very funny.
20:34 < sdodson> brimstone: you like boobs?
20:35 < AstralSin> mmmmm boobs
20:37 <@brimstone> sdodson this sounds like a loaded question...
20:37 <@dc0de> 'specially if the girl is pregnant.
20:37 < ware> brimstone prefers moobs
20:37 <@dc0de> ware; do I dare ask?
20:38 <+coil> my milk shake brings all the boys to the yard
20:38 < AstralSin> ew
20:38 <+coil> damn right it's better then yours!
20:38  * brimstone steals ware's shoes
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21:53 < geoffscoffee> evenin
21:53 <@brimstone> hi
21:53 <@dc0de> sup geoff
21:53 <@someninjamaster> sup geoff
21:54 < geoffscoffee> hey fellas
21:54 <@dc0de> I'm jonesing for some strong brew
21:54 < geoffscoffee> what's shakin
21:54 < geoffscoffee> come to the 2600 meeting tomorrow
21:54 <@dc0de> not me... I need more caffine.
21:54 <@dc0de> I wish...
21:54 < geoffscoffee> I should be there for the first time in months
21:54 <@dc0de> I'm in ATL, and my wife flies out of town tomorrow morning till next wednesday, leaving me with the kids for 5 days.
21:55 < geoffscoffee> wife is heading out of town, so I have a free night
21:55 < geoffscoffee> WHEE!
21:55 <@dc0de> I'm gonna be completely gray by the time it's over.
21:55 < geoffscoffee> if you ahve any hair left to turn grey
21:55 <@dc0de> mine doesn't fall out... it just goes gray
21:56 < geoffscoffee> mine only comes out in clumps surrounded by child's fingers
21:56 <@dc0de> heh
21:57 <@ladymerlin> heya geoffscoffee
21:57 < geoffscoffee> hey lady
21:58 < geoffscoffee> you ever dare try that beer I gave you?
21:58 < geoffscoffee> or did SD hog it all
21:59 <@ladymerlin> well skydog said it was good...
21:59 <@ladymerlin> :)
22:00 <@Evilpig> wtf does skydog know though?  nothign that's right
22:00 < geoffscoffee> hehe
22:00 < geoffscoffee> sorry, wish I had more
22:00 <@dc0de> geoffscoffee; was it coffee beer? buzz brew?
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22:20 < sdodson> bah, sd = sdodson yo
22:20 <+coil> sd
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22:45 < geoffscoffee> night all
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22:59 <@rattle> https://dtv2009.gov/
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23:23 < ware> woot
23:24 < ware> hung my hammock up in my room
23:24 <@dc0de> ware; pics?
23:24 < ware> oll get somne
23:25 <@dc0de> don't forget to put the 5gallon jug of Anal-Ease away before you take pics..
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23:34 <@ShadowHntr> lol
23:35 <@ShadowHntr> mental images be gone !
23:35 <@ShadowHntr> :P
23:46 <@Mirage> How sad is this..I'm playing Diablo on a dual-core 4800, 2gb ram, 512mb video card.  Sadly I think the video card itself meets the system requirements for playing the game (sans sound, of course)
23:47 <@dc0de> I remember when I bought my first computer with 512MB of ram.
23:47 <@dc0de> it cost me $3500
23:47 <@dc0de> and it was a 486DX266
23:48 <@sasquatc4> you had a 486 that supported 512 ram?
23:48 <@dc0de> yes
23:48 <@Mirage> Crazy
23:48 <@dc0de> it actually supported 768M,
23:48 <@dc0de> eventually.
23:49 <@rattle> I thought you were way older than that.  :)
23:49 <@dc0de> rattle; I didn't say it was my FIRST computer...
23:49 <@Mirage> Using expansion boards w/ the 'new' 72-pin FP memory?
23:49 <@dc0de> that was the one I bought in Northern Ireland in the early 90's
23:49 <@dc0de> and it was my 5th computer
23:49  * Corydon76-dig remembers his first computer... came with 64k RAM
23:50 <@rattle> Ah, bought..  heh
23:50 <@dc0de> my 1st puter came with 8mb, I think...
23:50 <@dc0de> trs80-mod-1
23:50 <@Mirage> I had a memory expansion on my Apple IIe..128k, whether I needed it or not
23:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Or actually, it might have come with 128k, but only 64k was addressable at any one time
23:50 <@dc0de> Mirage; had one of those in High School... learned basic2 on it.
23:51 <@rattle> I can't remember what my IBMPCjr had.
23:51 <@Mirage> I got mine in 5th grade, I think
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> and when I got the 1MB expansion card for my Apple IIe... woo, baby...
23:51 <@dc0de> when I was in HS, you had to take two years of foreign language... and BASIC & BASIC2 counted as foreign languages... :)
23:51 <@dc0de> guess which I took... :P
23:51 <@Mirage> We had the PCJr in my computer literacy class in 8th grade
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> More memory than you could ever use
23:52 <@dc0de> it really pissed off the people who took two years of Spanish...
23:53 <@Mirage> Damnit..I forgot that you have to save your char constantly in diablo, otherwise you lose all your shit when you die.  guess who's naked w/ a club again starting in town..=(
23:53  * dc0de goes to scrub his minds eye... 
23:53 <@Corydon76-dig> and then my first hard drive... 60MB, and the thing booted instantly...
23:53 <@dc0de> goddamit Mirage; warn us before you say shit like that.
23:54 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig; we had a 10mb
23:54 <@Mirage> OK, joke..So a baby seal walks into a club...
23:54 <@Mirage> that's it
23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: yeah, but booting instantly...
23:54 <@dc0de> prior to that we booted and used only 5.25", and cassette tapes
23:54 <@dc0de> yeah, I remember...
23:54 <@dc0de> wasn't shit to load...
23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Prior to the hard drive, it took a minute to boot off a 5.25" floppy
23:55 <@dc0de> I think my original trs80 booted faster from cassette than Vista boots on a 4GB lappy today.
23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> With the hard drive, turn it on, and boom, it was ready
23:55 <@Mirage> I remember being freaked out when I actually had to INSTALL an operating system, not have it imbedded
23:56 <@Mirage> Not that there weren't things before that which required you to load/boot off a specific disk..but still
23:56 <@Mirage> and when I discovered how to create a ramdisk on a Tandy1000..whoa..hog heaven
23:56 <@dc0de> omg... ramdisks...
23:56 <@dc0de> *shudder*
23:57 <@Mirage> I'm still toying with the idea of having the squid cache, etc for PN on an MD partition one of these days
23:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Mirage: heh, somebody at one time used the dedicated sound ram for ramdisk...
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> It was fine until something played a sound, and then, oops, ramdisk is gone
23:58 <@Mirage> Heh
23:58 <@dc0de> I loaded an entire transactional SQL database into a 8GB Ramdisk on a Compaq Server a few years ago...
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23:59 <@Mirage> I'm kind og looking forward to the solid state storage coming down in price.  I bet there are quite a few fun things that can be done
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