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00:00 <+scort> Signed for by
00:00 <+scort> J.RODELA
00:00 <+scort> thanks, who the fuck are you
00:00 <+scort> and wheres my package
00:03 <@brimstone> at the office?
00:05 <+scort> uhhh
00:05 <+scort> what fucking office
00:05 <+scort> i dont have a fucking office in my apt
00:05 <@brimstone> you do somewhere
00:05 <+scort> it says nothing about office other then on that site
00:06 <+scort> but the door tag says "CK LEASING"
00:06 <+scort> so three different sources say my package is in different places
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00:14 <+scort> it was raining mud today LOL
00:14 < aestetix_> Channel poll
00:14 < aestetix_> Do I watch "Trash" by Andy Warhol
00:14 < aestetix_> or "Films of the Great Depression"?
00:15 <@ShadowHntr> holy shit
00:15 <@ShadowHntr> he's not dead !
00:15 <@ShadowHntr> sup aestetix_ how's it goin
00:15 < aestetix_> I am dead. I have a post-mortem hardon for a late night movie.
00:16 <@ShadowHntr> aestetix_: see the latest series of Torchwood. you'd get a whole other meaning for what you just said.
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00:41 <+scort> kthx sfu
00:41 <+scort> stfu*
01:32 <@ShadowHntr> WARNING: preposterous time in TOY clock -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE!!
01:32 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
01:32 <@ShadowHntr> :)
01:32 <+scort> lluulluluuuulululuulluluuluulu
01:32 <@ShadowHntr> i found a DEC Alpha emulator
01:32 <@ShadowHntr> so i'm installing Digital UNIX 4.0e
01:32 <@ShadowHntr> just for shits and giggles
01:47 <@Dagmar> Isn't that a bit like shoving a full grown porcupine up your ass?
01:52 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: no, it isn't.
01:52 <@ShadowHntr> you're thinking OpenVMS.
02:14 <@Dagmar> Oksy, so a rabid hedgehog
02:17 <@dasunt> Meh, too drunk.
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03:29 <+scort> ShadowHntr:
03:29 <+scort> are you still there?
03:29 <@ShadowHntr> yeah what's up
03:30 <+scort> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143119
03:30 <+scort> bought.
03:30 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
03:30 <@ShadowHntr> a little excessive for what i'd play lol
03:30 <@ShadowHntr> but different strokes
03:30 <+scort> i dont care
03:30 <@ShadowHntr> i would have gotten a Quadro, but it's your money.
03:30 <@ShadowHntr> :)
03:30 <+scort> im in mania mode
03:30 <+scort> i swear im manic depressent
03:31 <@ShadowHntr> actually i'm an ATI man.
03:31 <@ShadowHntr> but nvidia does make some killer workstation gear
03:31 <@ShadowHntr> :D
03:33 <+scort> this is the first nv card i bought
03:33 <+scort> i've had all radeon shit
03:33 <+scort> i hated the drivers
03:33 <+scort> they're pos
03:33 <@ShadowHntr> i've never had a problem
03:33 <@ShadowHntr> in 10 years
03:33 <+scort> drivers man
03:34 <+scort> well on windows it worked fine
03:34 <@ShadowHntr> no problems with drivers here
03:34 <+scort> but im talking more on linux
03:34 <@ShadowHntr> i thought you weren't going to use linux
03:34 <@ShadowHntr> i thought this was gonna be a windows box
03:34 <@ShadowHntr> :/
03:34 <+scort> it is
03:34 <+scort> but i might dual boot
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03:35 <+scort> or swap out os's cuz i do that
03:35 <@ShadowHntr> ATI's gotten better since the merger with AMD
03:35 <+scort> huh
03:35 <+scort> they merged?
03:35 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
03:35 <+scort> lol...
03:35 <+scort> i know
03:35 <+scort> but when
03:36 <@ShadowHntr> year and a half ago
03:36 <+scort> i just remember one day saying amd ati
03:36 <@ShadowHntr> well
03:36 <@ShadowHntr> started a year and a half ago
03:36 <@ShadowHntr> finished up about 8 months ago
03:36 <+scort> werd
03:37 <@ShadowHntr> lol
03:37 <@ShadowHntr> this show rocks
03:37 <@ShadowHntr> :D
03:37 <@ShadowHntr> Life on Mars
03:37 <+scort> heh, fuck
03:37 <@ShadowHntr> BBC police drama
03:37 <+scort> i just realised about the power limitations
03:37 <@ShadowHntr> time travel police drama
03:37 <@ShadowHntr> what
03:37 <@ShadowHntr> 8800 take up too much power?
03:37 <+scort> it seems that they reccommend 800w ps with that nv card
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps an R2600PRO or something similar
03:39 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102732
03:39 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps it's not too late to cancel and change your mind
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04:10 < scoil> OMG apple broke ssh with their new security update!
04:23 <@Dagmar> scort: Ricers will recommend a lot of things.
04:23 <@Dagmar> You sure as hell aren't likely to need an 800W PSU for a video card, not even the 8800.
04:24 <@Dagmar> Google up a PSU calculator or two, and then just find out what the requirements of the video card are, and add to the number.
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05:30 <@Shadow404> sedation medicine taking effect ftw
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--- Log opened Wed Mar 19 07:35:24 2008
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07:45 <@Dagmar> Sheesh
07:45 <@Dagmar> Listening skills are important
07:45 <@Dagmar> There's an engineer who is probably right now trying to *do* a VLAN change which I am actually just trying to find out how we're _supposed_ to do, because it's on some equipment we can't directly make vlan changes to
07:46 <@dc0de> Dagmar do you work at the AJC?
07:46 <@Dagmar> ...and by "supposed to do" I mean trying to figure out who to call to actually make this happen, if it's even possible
07:46 <@Dagmar> AJC?
07:46 <@dc0de> nm... just a customer who was suffering the exact same change management issues that you're describing
07:50 <@dc0de> it's scary that this is becoming an epidemic
07:55  * brimstone epidemics all over I-MOD
07:56 <@brimstone> this is why you can't have nice things!
07:57 <@dc0de> damn...
07:57  * dc0de puts on a full body condom.
07:57 <@dc0de> no epidemics for me.
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08:22 <@I-MOD> does that mean youget to stop breathing too?
08:26 < aestetix_> Man
08:26 < aestetix_> This gun ruling is going to be really important.
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08:33 <@oddball> I'm pretty sure Heller will win.  The big question will be how far reaching the ruling will reach.
08:35 <@Dagmar> I say we allow everyone _but_ lawmakers in DC to carry handguns.
08:36 <@Dagmar> Hell, let's set up tourism info booths at every major ingress to DC and *issue* loaner pistols to natural-born citizens coming for purposes of tourism.
08:38 < aestetix_> *sigh* A coworker asked yesterday "Does the Constitution apply to DC?"
08:38 <@Dagmar> "Only in theory."
08:39 <@oddball> hey, Delinger (the lawyer for DC) actually tried to say that
08:42 <@Dagmar> Dillinger
08:53 <@oddball> oops, thanks
08:55 < aestetix_> Heh.
08:55 < aestetix_> Slowly forensics is catching on.
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09:29 <@Corydon76-dig> I predict assassination of a Supreme Court justice, the day after they declare the gun ban unconstitutional, by a handgun, within the boundaries of the District of Columbia.
09:38 <@oddball> any logical reasoning behind that prediction?
09:40 <@Corydon76-dig> The point of the ban was to reduce murder, which it has?
09:40 <@Corydon76-dig> D.C. is no longer the murder capital of the United States
09:43 <@Dagmar> Come on
09:43 <@oddball> the "fuyn" thing is that there's a bunch of reports that show the ban had nothing to do with that
09:43 <@Dagmar> If you were shoot the entirety of Congress, staffers included, it wouldn't be able to make a dent in the statistics there.
09:43 <@oddball> s/"fyun"/"fun
09:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Washington,_D.C.
09:44 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
09:45  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
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09:48 <@oddball> Corydon76-dig: also, by the same wikipedia entry, the violent crime rate peaked in the early 90's, well after the gun ban was introduced.
09:51 < aestetix_> Dagmar: it would make a dent in other statistics though ;)
10:02 <@baudburn> cool! apple will pay to ship my old computer back to apple for recycling
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10:07 <@I-MOD> yeah....the thing about outlawing guns is that upright citizens become defenseless since the criminals still have guns
10:07 <@I-MOD> either politicians don't realize that or they're doing it to look good in front of the sheeple
10:07 <@brimstone> heh, sheeple
10:08 <@baudburn> yeah, we all should totaly have guns.. it should be like the fukcing wild west up in here
10:08 <@poiupoiu> who wants to be will smith?
10:08  * oddball sighs
10:08 <@brimstone> oh! me me!
10:08 <@brimstone> i wanna drive the MechaSpider
10:09 <@poiupoiu> wouldn't you rather be riding around the streets in your steam-punk moped?
10:09 <@oddball> everytime a state has legalized concealed carry people make the "wild west" arguement.  It just doesn't happen.
10:09 <@brimstone> not if i'm on a MechaSpider
10:10 <@baudburn> no it's great.. everyone should have 12 guns on them at all times.
10:11 <@baudburn> we should have them when we're at the bar getting drunk..
10:11 <@baudburn> we should allow people in jail to have them
10:11 <@baudburn> every argument can be settled with a gun
10:12  * oddball walks away from the troll
10:12 <@nachoguy> baudburn, true.
10:12 <@nachoguy> you CAN settle any argument with a gun
10:12 <@nachoguy> if one of the parties dies, there can no longer be an argument
10:12 <@baudburn> nachoguy: exactly
10:12 <@baudburn> no officer, i wasn't speeding.. *bang*
10:13 <@baudburn> glad you see it my way
10:14 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: the position of the gun lobby is that you should be able to carry a concealed weapon, no permit, no training, just posession of a gun
10:14 <@oddball> no... it's not
10:14 <@baudburn> training descriminates
10:14 <@baudburn> what if i can afford either the gun or the training but not both?
10:14 <@Corydon76-dig> The NRA doesn't advocate zero restrictions?
10:14 <@baudburn> i don't see why i should be descriminated against
10:14 <@oddball> nope
10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, that's new
10:15 <@oddball> no, it's not
10:15 <@rattle> Some protest is expected to pass through the area I work in today.  Our second office building is in lockdown because it also houses the Republican National Institute..  And I have 6 guy Verizon crew on site there today..  ug..
10:16 <@oddball> in fact there are some folks that have considered the NRA traitors to the pro-gun cause because they're ok with having some restrictions
10:16 <@Corydon76-dig> oddball: usually that's a compromise position
10:17 <@rhia> baudburn: um, TX is concealed carry, do you really feel like _Dallas_ is the wild west?
10:18 <@baudburn> rhia: no. but try this on for size.. my neighbor got shot in the face by someone with a gun
10:18 <@oddball> There are some gun organizations that are pushing for zero restrictions, but they're also the far radical ones.
10:18 <@baudburn> the guy had a blank in it.. but as she was recoiling, the guy took her purse and ran
10:18 <@baudburn> so wild west? maybe not, but shit like that makes it seem pretty fucking close.
10:19 <@oddball> Do you know if it was a real gun, or a blank firing replica?
10:19 <@rhia> that still happens in DC and the UK, too
10:19 <@baudburn> i have no idea
10:19 <@baudburn> all i know is, i came home, my neigbor is freaking out and police are everywhere
10:20 <@baudburn> and i find out that she got shot in the fucking face
10:20 <@oddball> (and no, that was not meant to downplay the incident, a mugging is a mugging)
10:21 <@baudburn> i think it'd be less messed up if the dude didn't pull the trigger
10:22  * oddball nods
10:24 <@rattle> Does anyone have an excel password cracker worth recommending?
10:24 <@baudburn> cheers yall.. iOut
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10:24 <@oddball> Oh, and back to the case, the thing I find really interesting is it's dealing with gun rights while gun nuts are in near hysterics over "OMG! a Dem is going to get into the White House and take my guns away!"
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10:56 <@ladymerlin> whee
11:00 < ware> wee
11:00 < ware> havent been in the office since friday :D
11:00 < ware> feels like home again
11:04 <@I-MOD> wee
11:05 <@nachoguy> ware, what were you on road patrol?
11:05 < ware> yeah
11:06 < ware> i think they are about to send me back to cookeville this afternoon.
11:06 < ware> jesus flippin h
11:06 < aestetix_> holy fuck this is cool
11:06 < aestetix_> Turning Google Maps into a wiki
11:07 < aestetix_> Ok. There are people here who know RFID
11:08 <@I-MOD> i've played with it some
11:08 < aestetix_> According to Boingboing, I can get an RFID reader on eBay for $8. I just looked.
11:08 <@I-MOD> yeah
11:08 <@I-MOD> they're cheap
11:08 < aestetix_> I can't see anything anywhere near that price.
11:08 < aestetix_> Is that bullshit?
11:08 < ware> how much a writer tho
11:08 <@I-MOD> last i remember, it was near 20
11:08 < aestetix_> I'm more interested in a reader.
11:08 <@I-MOD> writers are near 400 or more
11:08 < aestetix_> I have a project I'm working on that would require like 10 readers.
11:08 <@I-MOD> and the writers work almost exclusively with winderz
11:09 <@I-MOD> i have access to a writer at my univeristy
11:09 <@I-MOD> :D
11:10 < ware> well fun is it if you can read all about how to get into a building but cant get into the building?
11:12 <@I-MOD> http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8419
11:12 <@I-MOD> there's a reader for 30
11:12 <@I-MOD> and you'll want to get teh breakout board for it too
11:13 <@I-MOD> that same reader can be had cheaper though
11:13 < aestetix_> Is there a limit to how many they can read?
11:13 < aestetix_> Say I want to scan 50 rfid tags in 10 seconds
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11:15 <@I-MOD> the rfid tag has to enter the scan range and it will be triggered once
11:15 <@brimstone> are you tagging sheep or something?
11:15 <@I-MOD> i don't know about multiple tags in the scan area at the same time
11:15 <@I-MOD> never tried
11:25 <@nachoguy> I sense badness
11:25 <@I-MOD> http://cgi.ebay.com/TAGSYS-Medio-L100-multi-protocol-long-range-RFID-reader_W0QQitemZ130206734597QQihZ003QQcategoryZ296QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
11:25 <@nachoguy> the IT dept is apparently taking the receptionist to lunch, for her 21st birthday, to an Irish pub
11:25 <@I-MOD> sounds like a party
11:26 <@nachoguy> we're all drunks, and our lunch time conversations tend to be filthy
11:26 <@nachoguy> so, either A. we all get fired for HR violations, or B. we bring her back trashed
11:26 <@I-MOD> that's waht i was about to say
11:26 <@nachoguy> Looking at her, she can probably drink a bit, but we are pros
11:28 <@oddball> there's not a "c. both A and B?"
11:29 < ware> wee
11:29  * ware just figured out how to record phone conversations
11:29 < ware> and i sound like a weetald
11:29 <@brimstone> ware: *
11:30 < ware> nachoguy: i wanna go!
11:31 < ware> I-MOD: thats hot
11:31 < ware> but i doubt it works
11:31 < ware> Condition : -- Used -- Powers Up Fine - No more testing were done
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11:47 <@dc0de> what's everyone up to? ready for outerz0ne?
11:47 <@brimstone> i'm up to about 6 foot, and yes
11:49 <@poiupoiu> plannin on bringing a cooler to store alcomohol and cups, so yeah. i think i'm ready
11:49 <@dc0de> heh... cooler...
11:49 <@dc0de> poiupoiu; are you bringing a beer hat?
11:50 <@poiupoiu> well, it's better than storing it all in the sink filled with ice
11:50 <@poiupoiu> no
11:50 <@dc0de> that's true
11:50 <@brimstone> why not fill the tub with ice?
11:51 <@poiupoiu> 'cause the ice machines hate that and run out
11:51  * ware steals brimstones kidneys
11:51 <@dc0de> brimstone; it's hard to shower then...
11:51 <@ladymerlin> poiupoiu: theres a fridge in the rooms
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11:51 <@brimstone> ladymerlin: :o
11:51 <@poiupoiu> ladymerlin, :o didn't know that...
11:51 <@dc0de> ladymerlin; you blew it!
11:51 <@dc0de> damn
11:51 <@dc0de> :(
11:51 <@brimstone> blew it like a $2 hooker
11:51 <@dc0de> ladymerlin; I didn't say THAT ^^^
11:51 <@dc0de> that's 100% brimstone
11:52 <@ladymerlin> heh
11:52 <@brimstone> 100% of the time!
11:52 <@brimstone> yeah!
11:52 <@dc0de> heh...
11:52 <@dc0de> ladymerlin; are you all set?
11:52 <@ladymerlin> getting there
11:52 <@dc0de> anything you might need when you get down to ATL?
11:52 <@ladymerlin> a drink :)
11:52 <@brimstone> more $2 bills...
11:52 <@dc0de> true... true...
11:55 <@dc0de> I finally got my wi-spy working on ubuntu.. .
11:55 <@dc0de> :)
11:55 <@brimstone> wi-spy?
11:55 <@dc0de> spectrum analyzer
11:55 <@brimstone> i don't see it in apt...
11:55 <@dc0de> usb type.
11:55 <@brimstone> ah
11:55 <@dc0de> it's not in apt
11:56 < ware> I am hoping that there are balconies, so that we can give Ware a place to throw furniture..
11:56 < ware> ROFL just saw that
11:56 <@dc0de> it's spectools -
11:56 <@dc0de> the hardware is from MetaGeek
11:56 < ware> and our room will probably be open to party in
11:56 <@Evilpig> cause you'll be in jail on an overnight?
11:57 < ware> that makes no sense
11:57 < ware> why would i get arrested?
11:57 <@brimstone> chair or iron?
11:57 < ware> or nothing?
11:57 <@Evilpig> destruction of property
11:58 < ware> i already said my sorrys and paid my damages
11:58 < ware> :D
11:58 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: I wanna see the wi-spy toy.
11:58 <@dc0de> hold pls.. uploading screen shot now.
11:59 <@dc0de> http://picasaweb.google.com/jnoble/ScreenShots/photo#5179498175429190274
12:00 <@dc0de> I mostly work with the planar view, as it shows the saturation and utilization of the spectrum across the channels.
12:00 < ware> neat
12:00 <@dc0de> I'm about to take another screen shot, as it's changed in the last 20 minutes.
12:02 <@dc0de> http://picasaweb.google.com/jnoble/ScreenShots/photo#5179499154681733778
12:02 <@dc0de> that's the one I just took.
12:02 <@SkyDog_> Very cool.
12:03 < ware> looks alot like ol trusty netstumbler.
12:03 <@dc0de> indeed... the blue background in the planar view is the Peak
12:03 <@dc0de> ware, except that this isn't a wireless card, it's not connecting to anything...
12:03 <@dc0de> the hardware is completely passive and undetectable, as well, it's not for hacking, it's for analyzing
12:04 <@dc0de> the green is Average, and the yellow line is Current...
12:05 <@dc0de> ware this tool will actually show you the overall spectrum, not just the channels that the card can see... since it's not a wifi card, it's not restricted to "channels".
12:07 <@dc0de> ware - if you care to understand the differences, please take a look at the products' home page --> www.metageek.net
12:10 < ware> thought a card in monitor mode wasnt detectable
12:10 <@unixfag> dc0de: I have some hardware I'd like to see graphed with that device, if you'll be at OZ :)
12:10 < ware> does it pick up tv shows?
12:10 <@dc0de> a card in promiscuous mode is detectable.
12:10 < ware> or radio stations?
12:11 <@dc0de> unixfag; cool... I have it working, and on my laptop that I'm presenting from... so that'll be cool.
12:11 < ware> neato
12:13 <@dc0de> ware: google for promiscuous mode detection
12:14 < ware> MOM!!!!
12:14 < ware> err
12:14 <@dc0de> no, no, AFTER the pics of your mom.
12:16 <@I-MOD> getting similar data from a wifi card would require direct access to the radio and all its associated specs
12:17 <@I-MOD> which might mean writing your own firmware
12:18 <@dc0de> I-MOD; which is why the WiSpy is so cool, it has it's own driver and it's USB... and works on Linux, Mac, and Windows
12:18 <@dc0de> 'cept Vista, I think.
12:18 <@I-MOD> no one cares about vista
12:18 <@I-MOD> dc0de, work paid for it right?
12:19 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: is a card in promiscuous mode detectable if its transmit wires are cut?
12:19 <@I-MOD> cause 400 is a good chunk of change to lay down for that
12:19 <@dc0de> I-MOD; I got the WiSpy two years ago, as speaker swag at Shmoocon
12:19 <@I-MOD> damn
12:19 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig; it depends on the network.
12:19 <@I-MOD> v1 or 2.4x?
12:20 <@dc0de> I have the v1
12:20 <@Corydon76-dig> I know of at least one installation where they did that to avoid detection of their monitor host
12:20 <@dc0de> it's just a little usb nubby...
12:20 <@I-MOD> and how good the detecting antenna is on the other end, cause even a cut wire radiates somewhat
12:20 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig; it depends on the detection system used, and how well mapped the existing spectrum is...
12:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Then again, it was a legitimate installation
12:21 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; under linux I'm using spectools to capture the data, which is a sub-set of Kismet.
12:21 <@SkyDog_> nice.
12:22 <@dc0de> this time, the install went MUCH smoother...
12:22 <@dc0de> it seems that it works better under 64 bit, don't ask me why...
12:22 <@dc0de> or I just completely fuxored the 32bit install about two months ago...
12:23 <@Evilpig> user error
12:23 <@dc0de> which is a viable explanation
12:23 <@dc0de> Evilpig; I'm not ruling it out...
12:23  * dc0de is still learning his linux desktop.
12:23 <@Evilpig> bah.  linux desktop is a farce.
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12:24 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and *cough* *hack* *wheez* h0ez!
12:25 <@Catonic> hey Dolemomma...
12:25 <@dc0de> sup Dolemite
12:25 <@dc0de> hope you're feeling better...
12:25 <@Dolemite> just slightly
12:26 <@Evilpig> make notlarry pull cable under the floor.  that will make you feel better
12:26 <@Dolemite> Nothing like the bonafide flu virus to knock you off your feet for days
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12:27 <@dc0de> Dolemite; it took me three weeks to clear that shit...
12:27 <@dc0de> it was a bitch and a half.
12:28 <@Catonic> Dolemite: eck. The admin assistant had something the other day that I wound up taking home... I hope it's gone in time for the weekend.
12:28 <@Dolemite> Well I was actually tested for the flu virus and it was positive
12:28 <@Catonic> Dolemite: you'll be fine. you kicked SARS after all...
12:28 <@Dolemite> you can have flu-like symptoms and it'll clear up in a few days
12:29 <@Dolemite> Hell, I was patient zero for SARS
12:29 <@dc0de> bb in a few... moving to the public wifi...
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12:29 <@Catonic> you were carrying SARS 0day
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12:34 <@Catonic> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=ancient-athenian-plague-p&ref=sciam <- glad I'm not an anthropologist. I don't want to be the first one to come down with a disease we haven't seen in 1000 yars
12:34 <@Catonic> *years
12:36 <@Dolemite> Well it's time for another dose of tamiflu and some knock-me-out cough medicine
12:36 <@Dolemite> laterz kids
12:37 <@Neoteric> Dolemite: don't die
12:37 <@Neoteric> the death is totally overrated
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12:44 <@dc0de> wow, the spectrum outside is MUCH different looking...
12:44 <@dc0de> interesting.
12:44 <@critch> radio, light, pill, which spectrum?
12:45 <@dc0de> radio - specifically the 2.4ghz
12:45 <@dc0de> range
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12:57 <@dc0de> wow, this is a much different view of the spectrum... the outside looks saturated...
12:57 <@dc0de> http://lnk.nu/picasaweb.google.com/j9i
13:10 <@dc0de> alright! off to the airport to fly to JAX... zzzZzzz catch ya'll later.
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13:17 < scoil> yay i have a booting system now!~!!!!
13:18 <@Dagmar> Yuck.  80F in the apartment
13:18 <@polerin> so
13:19 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Oh I am SO jealous you have one of thos
13:19 <@polerin> besides 'wheel' .. is there any recognizable name for administrators other than 'admins' or 'adminsitrators'
13:19 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much id.
13:19 <@Dagmar> s/id/it/;
13:19 <@polerin> nods
13:19 <@polerin> I think i'm going to use wheel then
13:19 <@Dagmar> Oh which OS?
13:20 <@polerin> no os
13:20 <@polerin> permission structure for webapp
13:20 <@Dagmar> Oh okay
13:20 <@polerin> permissions are entirely group based
13:20 <@Dagmar> Man you might just wanna call it 'admins' then
13:20 <@polerin> Beeehhh
13:20 <@polerin> I can change it later
13:20 <@polerin> the name is not the id
13:20 <@polerin> but 'admins' is so lifeless
13:20 <@Dagmar> If it's not tied to an OS, then you don't really have to cater to any legacy expectations
13:20 <@polerin> plus, easy to guess if someone breaks it
13:21 <@Dagmar> OKay, so "BeneficentOverlords"
13:21 <@polerin> heheh
13:21 <@polerin> I'll call it wheel for now and think of something better later
13:21 <@polerin> I just can't make myself name it 'admins'
13:21 <@Dagmar> "The names used for the access groups have been carefully selected to maximize both their obviousity, and your desire to change them to something less ludicrous."
13:21 <@polerin> though really rather than group it should be called "role"
13:22 <@Dagmar> Now there's a word that can stand to get more use
13:22 <@polerin> obviosity?
13:22 <@Dagmar> No, "role"
13:22 <@polerin> ah
13:22 <@polerin> heh
13:22 <@Dagmar> That "ROOT IS NOT A @#$@ USER IT'S A ROLE ACCOUNT" speech gets tiresome
13:22 < scoil> role?
13:22 <@Dagmar> polerin: See
13:22  * polerin shrugs
13:22 <@polerin> not dissagreeing
13:22 <@polerin> hehe
13:23 <@polerin> I actually agree with you on that one
13:23 <@Dagmar> It's a problem that it's 80F because the HVAC at home has been off all day
13:23 <@Dagmar> This bodes poorly for the summer
13:23 <@Dagmar> I may have to do something with the downstairs neighbors
13:23 <@polerin> well it really is, because the effective permission is based on a compoite of role permissions
13:23 <@polerin> it's not really a "group" per say
13:24 <@polerin> meh ok I'll rename
13:24 <@polerin> now is the time to do it, not later
13:24 <@Dagmar> Strike while the iron is looking away from you!
13:25 <@polerin> hehe
13:25 <@polerin> you're in a good mood today dag ;P
13:26 <@Dagmar> Nah just feeling a little squirrely from having survived this morning
13:26 <@Dagmar> Too many things happening at the same time at the office
13:26 <@Dagmar> Nothing major, just hectic
13:26 <@polerin> nods
13:26 <@polerin> god I love even slightly sane db design and using a framework correctly
13:27 <@Catonic> you need trusted solaris 8
13:27 <@polerin> I had to change the name in .. 3 places in the db, including two table names, and 6 in code
13:27 <@polerin> s'all
13:27  * Dagmar stifles a giggle
13:28 <@polerin> Dagmar: what, me or the solaris thing
13:28 <@Dagmar> 8 > 2
13:28 <@Catonic> 10 > 8
13:29 <@polerin> heh
13:29 <@Dagmar> You have not yet reached a point of dharma with 3NF
13:29 <@Catonic> anyway, trusted solaris 8 actually has a root account that becomes useless once the OS is installed
13:29 <@Catonic> talk about sysadmin by committee..
13:29 <@Dagmar> Well, you *could* do that with Linux
13:30 <@polerin> Dagmar: keep in mind that the code is simply model names and class names
13:30 <@polerin> in three files :P
13:30 <@polerin> for the relationships between database tables
13:31 <@brimstone> anyone know a way to zero free space on a ext3 drive?
13:31 <@Dagmar> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yerpartition
13:31 <@brimstone> free space
13:32 <@Dagmar> dd if=/dev/zero of=/file/in/that/filesystem || sync
13:32 <@Dagmar> Kinda lazy but does it
13:32 <@brimstone> i've already rm'ed all the files though
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13:33 <@Dagmar> Just making a file containing zeros that uses up all the free space should get the vast majority
13:33 <@brimstone> eeeewww
13:33 <@Catonic> dd if=/dev/urandrom of=/dev/hdc bs=64k
13:33 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, good luck Googling
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13:34 <@Dagmar> Catonic: Selecting a block size that is dramatically larger than the disk's block size may result in the last block not being written, yo.
13:34 <@Dagmar> bs by default is 512, which luckily matches our disk block size
13:35 <@Dagmar> ...which is kinda the reason it's 512, actually.
13:35 <@polerin> heh
13:35 <@Dagmar> ...and urandom would take ages
13:35 <@Mirage> I think this is going to wind up being one of those days I just wish I'd stayed at home.
13:35 <@Dagmar> Mirage: Hey looks like the day is still ongoing then
13:35 <@polerin> aww
13:36  * polerin gives mariage coffee and nicotine :P
13:36 <@Mirage> Mariage?  wtf? Fingers in a cast or somthing?
13:37 <@Mirage> Btw..where the hell have you been?  I don't recall seeing you at PN or any meetings for quite some time.
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13:38 <@brimstone> polerin isn't allowed to have a tab key
13:39 <@Dagmar> Or a passport.
13:40 <@polerin> lol
13:40 <@Dagmar> Hopefully that will get sorted soon
13:40 <@polerin> I just prefer typing it out most times
13:40 < ware> normal chat may proceed
13:40 <@polerin> actually i need to fix irssi's autocomplete so it doesn't add a space
13:40 < ware> now
13:41 <@polerin> that annoys me so I tend not to use it mid sentance
13:41 < ware> lulz
13:41 <@polerin> Dagmar: pass.. port?  wha?
13:42 <@Dagmar> OKay maybe I'm getting someone else's problem confused
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13:43 <@polerin> I haven't applied for one recently
13:43 < scott__> uhh
13:43 < scott__> anyone here have leopard?
13:43 <@brimstone> maybe...
13:43 <@polerin> I think I'd flip out the person getting it, but that's another story
13:44 < scott__> well apple, broke ssh!
13:44 <@brimstone> horray!
13:44 <@brimstone> ssh client or sshd ?
13:44 < scott__> it fucking doesn't work!
13:44 < scott__> client
13:44 <@polerin> scott__: I did but than she ate a small child and I had to put her down
13:44 < scott__> not on terminal, or iterm
13:44 <@brimstone> that's kinda lame
13:44 <@Dagmar> Why would it fucking matter which one?
13:44 < scott__> Bus error
13:44 < scott__> it says that when i type ssh ip
13:44 <@Dagmar> lol
13:44 < scott__> and apparenly lots of people are having that problem
13:45 <@Dagmar> More than just ssh likely broke
13:45 < scott__> i can't find anythign esel that's broked
13:45 < scott__> just the one fucking thing i need is broken
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13:46 <@ShadowHntr> anyone still have a copy of OS X 10.2 Jaguar?
13:46 < scott__> Shadow404, i hate everythign
13:46 <@brimstone> maybe...
13:46 <@ShadowHntr> i just acquired a Power Mac G3 i'd like to play with
13:46 <@ShadowHntr> dumpster diving pays off :)
13:46 < scott__> ShadowHntr, hi
13:46 <@ShadowHntr> sup scott__
13:46 <@Dagmar> Aren't you glad you installed an OS where you can compile your own OpenSSH if you need to?
13:46 < scott__> my dvdrom wont fucking boot
13:47 < scott__> Dagmar, that's hard when my itnernet isn't work
13:47 <@brimstone> the G3s will run 10.5 won't they?
13:47 <@Dagmar> It isn't?
13:47 <@brimstone> at least 10.4
13:47 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: not without xpostfacto, and i have 10.4 running, but it kernel panics on boot
13:47 < scott__> yes, im using someone elses internet
13:47 <@ShadowHntr> so i'm gonna try 10.2
13:47 <@ShadowHntr> officially it supports up to 10.2
13:47 <@Dagmar> So whip out a thumb drive you git
13:48 < scott__> and put what on it
13:48 < scott__> my ass?
13:48 <@ShadowHntr> openssh source
13:48 <@ShadowHntr> :P
13:48 < scott__> THAT'S NOT THE MAIN PROBLEM RIGHT NOW
13:48 <@brimstone> the main problem is that you're way too uptight
13:48 <@Dagmar> ftp://reflection.ncsa.uiuc.edu/pub/OpenBSD/OpenSSH/portable/openssh-4.7p1.tar.gz
13:48 < scott__> yeah well im about to killmyself
13:49 <@Dagmar> emo
13:49 <@rattle> All the Code Pink people got rained on..  Teehee!@
13:49 <@Dagmar> hah
13:49 < scott__> i need a cd image
13:49 < scott__> not a dvd image
13:50 <@Dagmar> rattle: So... Obama's current state of trying desperately to save face... "Screwed the pooch" or just "World of Hurt" yathink?
13:50 < ware> scott__: download it to a folder noob
13:51 <@Dagmar> wow
13:51 <@Dagmar> When ware calls you a noob and it isn't off the mark, this is not good.
13:52 <@ShadowHntr> question about os x
13:52 <@ShadowHntr> does os x come with os 9 classic, or do i have to provide os 9
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> well older os x versions
13:53 <@ShadowHntr> that still supported classic
13:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, Davidson County clerk apparently updated their systems since last year.  They're no longer using dot-matrix printers on quadruplicate forms
13:54 <@Corydon76-dig> They're still not printing all lined-up, though
13:54 <@Dagmar> WOW
13:54 <@ShadowHntr> holy Genicom, batman !
13:55 <@Dagmar> Hell, by this point, dot-matrix printers are almost a damn anti-forgery measure all by themselves.
13:55 <@polerin> Dagmar: actually to be honest most of that stuff about obama is a bit ... trumped up
13:55 <@polerin> he did a good job with the speach but people cut the important bits out
13:55 <@polerin> :/
13:55 <@Dagmar> polerin: No, the deal is this.  His _preacher_ is basically a racist.
13:55 <@Dagmar> polerin: Said man got called out on YouTube saying a lot of hateful shit
13:55 <@rattle> Dagmar:  I think it's going to work out well for him in the long run actually..
13:56 <@Dagmar> polerin: Obama *did* drop him from the campaign, but then proceeded to spend about 10 minutes basically _explaining_ and _being apologetic_ for what his preacher said.
13:56 <@Dagmar> rattle: it's going to be a close one
13:56 <@polerin> Dagmar: Preacher is a racist, but a whole bunch of other people are too.  He also has a point about the Us support of israel.
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13:57 <@Dagmar> polerin: Problem being, what that preacher said was a *crapton* worse than what Don Imus said, and Obama was _much_ more ready to call *that* racism and use words like "deplorable" and "reprehensible"
13:57 <@polerin> in that we are blindly supprortive of Israel, and that the muslim world will hate us till that's different
13:57 <@Dagmar> Doesn't matter if he has a point or not
13:57 <@polerin> hehe
13:57 <@Dagmar> It's still _racist as hell_
13:57  * polerin nods
13:57 <@Dagmar> ...and Obama's _worst_ thing to say about it was "he is a product of the sixties"
13:57 <@Dagmar> Basically, he whipped that double-standard right out
13:58 <@brimstone> a product of pixies?
13:59 <@Dagmar> He made _excuses_ for the man.  That right there is just a great way to lose people's respect
13:59 <@Dagmar> Jesus was a jew, and very likely an arab
13:59 <@Dagmar> To say Jesus was a black man who was killed because "The White Man" wanted to put him down?
13:59 <@Dagmar> Now THAT is just fucked up
14:00 <@Dagmar> The Pope is probably saying "Wha-a-a-at?" about that
14:00 <@rattle> Did you actually watch the speech?
14:01 <@Dagmar> I basically put up with CNN like 6-8 hours a day man
14:01 <@Dagmar> I can't get AWAY from it
14:01 <@Dagmar> I heard the thing on NPR the night that started cooking
14:01 <@Mirage> I've said for years, and still say that they should just nuke the shit out of 'the holy land.'  If nothing else maybe that would postpone all the fighting, etc over it for a few decades.
14:02 <@rattle> Because he didn't make excuses for him.  He acknowledged that the type of anger the preacher was expressing exists within the black community..  And made an argument that to distance himself from it would be akin to distancing himself from the black community.  He also flatly condemned the statements the guy was making.
14:02 <@rattle> The idea being to address the issue rather than run away from it.
14:02 <@Dagmar> I must have missed the part where he admitted the man was racist.
14:02 <@Dagmar> 'cuz I could swear that at some point, he should have used that word.
14:02 <@rattle> It was like 5 minutes of the speech!
14:03 <@rattle> Argh..  This is the problem with politics in the 24/hr news cycle.  It's impossible to actually have a discussion about anything even remotely complex..  Because when you boil it down to sound bites, most of the arguments presented are not present.
14:04 <@rattle> You can be blasted with coverage, yet get very little of the actual arguments being presented.
14:04 <@rattle> I think there is merit to the approach Obama is making.
14:04 <@Dagmar> I think it's about his only way out of this.
14:05 <@rattle> He is condemning the anger..  But acknowledging that it exists..  And trying to directly address the anger, rather than distancing himself from the people feeling it.
14:05 < aestetix_> Dagmar: his speech was very, very eloquent.
14:05 <@Dagmar> Yes, he talks real pretty
14:05 < aestetix_> That's what matters in an election.
14:05 <@Dagmar> ...but his words don't have the ring of truth.
14:05 <@rattle> No, the easy way out is to simple condemn and distance.
14:06 <@rattle> Here, he is condemning it, and trying to shine light on the issue.
14:06 < aestetix_> rattle: actually, what he did is going to make people think he's deep, profound, and can relate with all of them.
14:06 <@Dagmar> Do you remember him saying this?
14:06 <@Dagmar> "I understand MSNBC has suspended Mr. Imus," Obama told ABC News, "but I would also say that there's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude."
14:06 <@rattle> They have the ring of sincerity.  But people don't seem to like that as much as being told exactly what they want to hear.
14:06 <@rattle> aestetix_:  I agree.
14:06 <@Dagmar> Yet, Rev Wright was on his staff at that very time.
14:06 <@rattle> He isn't running away from the issue and taking the easy way out..
14:06 <@Dagmar> Only AFTER the rest of the world found out about it, was he booted
14:07 <@rattle> He isn't on Obama's staff, and he isn't working for him.
14:07 <@Dagmar> Either Obama doesn't go to church as often as he would like people to believe, or he _had_ to know his preacher was saying things like this.
14:07 <@Dagmar> He _was_ on Obama's staff tho
14:07 < aestetix_> Ok.
14:07 < aestetix_> I'm a typical voter in this situation.
14:08 < aestetix_> I didn't know that, I don't know who Inus is, but I saw Obama's speech.
14:08 < aestetix_> I'm guessing that's how most people will react.
14:09 < aestetix_> That speech has been flooding all the social networking sites. People aren't keeping up with the details, but the saw the pretty eloquent speech.
14:10 <@Dagmar> Second hit for "don imus wright" in Google http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/18/before-wright-firestorm-obama-called-for-imus-firing/
14:10 < aestetix_> Two of the top five stories on Digg right now
14:10 <@Dagmar> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,256078,00.html
14:10 <@Evilpig> I knew that was going to come back on him
14:11 <@Evilpig> I didn't care for him as a candidate after that statement 
14:11 <@Dagmar> ..and that pastor isn't just a *little* racist, he's a *BIG* racist
14:12 <@Neoteric> how many of your fuckers is gonna eat a luther burger?
14:12 < aestetix_> *sigh* Why does the super hot chick in the office have to be such a doldrum....
14:13 <@Dagmar> Neoteric: A what?
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14:14 <@aestetix> Oh offtopic. Where can I get like a dozen RFID readers cheap?
14:14 <@brimstone> Discount Shaddy Supply Megamart
14:14 <@Dagmar> "Some guy in a van"
14:15 <@oddball> or the electronic equivilant, ebay?
14:15 <@critch> aestetix: \http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=rfid+reader&scoring=p
14:16 <@Dagmar> Compared to FOX, CNN practically worships Obama
14:16 < ware> justfuckinggoogleit.com
14:16 <@aestetix> critch: tried all those
14:16 <@aestetix> I'm in the hunt for this legendary $8 reader boingboing claims exists
14:17 <@Neoteric> Dagmar: it's something very good for you.
14:18 <@Neoteric> Dagmar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Burger
14:19 <@Dagmar> I got people making me feel guilty about the dietary conditions under which I eat a *regular* burger
14:19 <@Dagmar> ...and you want me to combine it with a *doughnut*?
14:20 <@aestetix> wow
14:20 <@aestetix> that's like a diabetic who wants to have a heart attack
14:20 <@Neoteric> Dagmar: mulligen's also makes a thing called a "hamdog"
14:20 <@Neoteric> both of them are about the best things ever made by man
14:20 <@Dagmar> Yes, it's also documented on the Wikipedia page
14:21 <@Dagmar> *Internet == Offline memory*
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14:21 <@polerin> Dagmar: heh.. you've heard about my wendyburger right?
14:21 <@Catonic> oh excellent idea... pour a shot (yes, a shot) of tussin DM, then go to work...
14:21 <@Dagmar> Well, that *is* the dose
14:22 <@Dagmar> You should read the label sometime instead of just drinking the whole thing
14:22 <@Catonic> psssh... I bought it because it gives me weird dreams.
14:23 <@Dagmar> Yes, thankfully there's very few hallucinations involved in the _actual_ correct medicinal dosage
14:23 <@Dagmar> I tend to follow a policy of "1 dose every fifteen minutes until coughing stops... if hallucinations occur, you probably have pneumonia and should seek medical help"
14:24 <@Catonic> lol
14:24  * Catonic pelts Shadow404 with empty tussin bottles
14:24 <@Dagmar> Generally, I stop coughing within an hour, no problem.
14:24 <@Dagmar> Just two doses will pretty much stomp anything that isn't super serious right out
14:26 < ware> WHO DELETED MY MX RECORD.
14:26 <@Catonic> erowid man... dxm is a dissociative
14:26 < ware> DAGMAR WAS IT YOU.
14:27 <@aestetix> Oh hey
14:27 <@Dagmar> Fuck man I didn't even know you knew what an MX record *was*
14:27 <@aestetix> Dagmar: this is directed for you, but anyone else who knows their shit about drugs
14:27 < ware> hahaha
14:27 < ware> aestetix: hippie
14:27 <@Dagmar> Why would I delete yours?
14:27 < ware> justfuckinggoogleit
14:27 <@aestetix> I'm working with DanceSafe to revamp their website.... if people could check out dancesafe.org, and see if they find any issues, inconsistencies, etc....
14:27 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by Catonic [I'm baleeting your caplock]
14:27 <@Dagmar> Catonic: I am quite aware of that DXM is
14:27 <@aestetix> I can tell them about it and get it fixed
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14:27 < ware> im just confizzled how a domain doesnt expire / transfer and the mx record magically disappears
14:28 < ware> THANKS CATONIC!
14:28 <@Catonic> wow, lagometer spike
14:28 <@Dagmar> ware: that's usually called "some git took it out of the zone file"
14:28 <@Catonic> ware: isn't it a bit early in the day to be doing drunken irc?
14:28 <@Dagmar> aestetix: Well, the last time I was there I think they pretty much had everything correct
14:28 < ware> aestetix: i danced safe with your mom last night!
14:29 < ware> the site did seem pretty static last i checked
14:29 < ware> Catonic: we went to the sports bar for lunch
14:29 <@Catonic> ware: I think the best part of you ran down the crack of your momma ass and wound up as a brown stain on the mattress.
14:29 <@Catonic> ware: are you employed?
14:29 < ware> yes?
14:29 <@Catonic> are you hustlin' drugs on the street corner?
14:30 < ware> no
14:30 < ware> why you all think im noob =/
14:31 <@Dagmar> Well, because you can't figure out where your MX record went is one example.
14:31 < ware> its a clients and this client likes to break things then call us
14:31 <@Catonic> because you've shown less intelligence in real life and on irc that most people around here.
14:32 <@Dagmar> Chair throwin' don't help much, this is true.
14:32 < ware> haha
14:32 <@Catonic> fuck man, really... who has the complete lack of self-respect and self-control to toss a chair from a nine-story building?
14:32 <@Dagmar> You should make sure to put "quotes" around stuff when you're mocking someone else
14:33 < ware> okay so i get drunk at cons and irc is my playground.  i guess i have to understand that is all most of you see of me
14:33 < ware> Catonic: wontonjoe dared me!
14:33 < ware> and i wanted to watch it fall
14:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar:  would you dare me to sodomize ware?
14:34 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig, i dare you
14:34 <@aestetix> Dagmar: also looking for new studies that should be added.
14:34 <@Corydon76-dig> I'd really like to see ware squirm
14:35 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: just take his cows away.
14:35 <@Neoteric> challenge email sent to se2600 list
14:37 <@Dagmar> Being dared almost makes sense, but it's redneck as hell.
14:37 <@Catonic> that's not remotely healthy
14:37 <@Catonic> I want to see Morgan Spurlin eat one of those.
14:39 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: I'd pay you
14:40 <@Neoteric> ware: if you eat one luther burger you won't be a noob
14:40 <@aestetix> Neoteric: and if he beds Corydon76-dig he'll be elite
14:40 <@Catonic> Neoteric: where's my picture, bitch?
14:40 <@Neoteric> somewhere on a drive
14:40 <@aestetix> Amazing. He can gain cDc status in the scene without touching a computer
14:41 <@Catonic> then there's always the sexchart.
14:42 < ware> Neoteric: i will do it
14:43 <@aestetix> Ok. Corydon76-dig, how much do you want?
14:43 < ware> !google #se2600 sex chart
14:43 < ware> !google se2600 sex chart
14:43 < imhere2plzu> http://attrition.org/hosted/sexchart/sexchart.9.25
14:43 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: I'm not going to sodomize ware.  The point was that being dared was a ridiculous reason
14:43 <@aestetix> !google se2600 ware
14:43 <@Neoteric> oh my way to hotlanta I will be stopping to eat here: http://www.hollyeats.com/Lexington.htm
14:44 <@polerin> god I hope that question gets set as corydon's quote :P
14:44 <@aestetix> So uh
14:45 <@aestetix> saturday
14:45 <@aestetix> I have been invited to a battlestar galactica party. Hosted by hot women.
14:45 < ware> we've seen your definition of 'hot'.
14:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Sex chart hasn't been updated in forever
14:46 < ware> aestetix's mom was all like, let's do it and I was all like, right on, and then we did it and I got a 1-up
14:46 <@polerin> heh
14:46 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: the quote is selected at random
14:46 <@polerin> I know
14:46 <@aestetix> ware: and then you woke up and bessie slapped you with her tail
14:46 <@polerin> which is why I hope.
14:46 <@Neoteric> and I hope to eat here: http://www.hollyeats.com/AllenSonBBQ.htm
14:46 <@polerin> but whatever :P
14:46 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: per page load, even
14:46 <@polerin> oh sorry I thought it was done on analysis
14:47 <@aestetix> Catonic: elektra is in that
14:48 < ware> *shudders*
14:49 <@aestetix> Corydon76-dig: god that *is* old
14:49 <@Catonic> iirc her name is electra
14:50 <@Catonic> and besides... if that's more than a few years old, someone has commited a crime.
14:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: the one you're thinking of is far from the first to have used that nick
14:51 < ware> this "antimony" character is a slut
14:52 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: duh. it's a name from a greek or norse myth.
14:52 <@aestetix> I'm surprised Elonka isn't in there
14:52 <@Catonic> I'm suprised it hasn't been updated.
14:53 <@Catonic> then again, they've lowered the criteria from bumping uglies to a single kiss..
14:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: only a kiss that swaps spit
14:56 <@Corydon76-dig> otherwise, I'd have a link to sdodson, Fed615, Neoteric, SkyDog, and various other people
14:56 < ware> not me! :D
14:56 < ware> ho
14:56 <@Neoteric> Corydon76-dig: I THOUGHT YOU SAID OUR MOMENT WAS SPECIAL!
14:56 <@Catonic> and jonnyx would be inexplicably linked to Dagmar.
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric: what's even better is that there's photographic proof
14:57 <@aestetix> I don't think I've been with anyone in the scene.
14:57 <@aestetix> Although two people come to mind that omfg I'd break that rule for
14:58 < ware> aestetix: psst, she has a penis
14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> aestetix: Catonic and Elektra?
14:58 <@aestetix> wow, I know way too many people on this list for comfort
14:59 <@Neoteric> ware: awesome!
14:59 <@Neoteric> okay who else?
14:59 <@Neoteric> I need some of the big white-guy contigent.
15:00 <@aestetix> fuck I just found someone else i know
15:00 <@aestetix> damn pinguino has been with a lot of guys
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15:07 <@Catonic> dc0de is out because of health reasons...
15:07 <@Catonic> so that leaves skydog...
15:07 <@Catonic> because I know sdodson isn't going to drive from charlotte to atlanta and destroy his diet by eating a lutherburger.
15:08 <@dc0de> Catonic; what's a lutherburger?
15:08 <@dc0de> I can eat meat.
15:09 < ware> bacon cheeseburger on a glazed donut bun
15:09 <@dc0de> Catonic; sdodson suffers from the same thing I do.
15:09 < ware> !google luther burger wiki
15:09 <@dc0de> nah, I'm not a big donut fan.
15:09 < imhere2plzu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Burger
15:09 <@dc0de> I never have been.
15:10 <@Catonic> reminds me, I need to keep the po-ride until the huntsville hamfest
15:10 <@Catonic> I want to get pulled over for speeding by a cop when I have 17 dozen donuts in the back
15:10 <@Catonic> "Sir, why were you speeding?" "Hot fresh donuts man, had to get my fix."
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15:15 < ware> yay!
15:15 < ware> he coming to OZ?
15:16 < ware> cause i dont want to get all 'omgpwnies' on him
15:17 < ware> and no, hes not bumming a ride from anyone here.
15:18 <@ladymerlin> heh
15:18 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: who?
15:18 < ware> welcome to 6 minutes ago
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15:18 < ware> 15:15 <      ware> yay!
15:18 < ware> 15:15 <      ware> he coming to OZ?
15:19 <@Corydon76-dig> My best guess is that he couldn't afford the hotel room
15:19 <@Corydon76-dig> or the gasoline costs, so probably not
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15:27 <@aestetix> man
15:27 <@aestetix> WHy does domestic air travel suck so much
15:27 <@dc0de> woman
15:27 <@dc0de> aestetix; because we don't care about people anymore.
15:29 <@aestetix> It's retardedly bad.
15:31 <@dc0de> aestetix; I'm going to be flying on SouthWest... it's "cattle car airlines"
15:32 <@dc0de> I feel like I'm dealing with children... "Ok, everyone line up by height!"
15:32 <@aestetix> Ok. Let's assume for a second I could squeeze a couple of hours to visit Atlanta this weekend.
15:32 <@aestetix> There are no direct flights, all of them have 12 hour layovers, and they are all $700+
15:33 < cwire> you're always at the front then, huh dc0de?
15:34 <@dc0de> cwire; I only wish.
15:35 <@dc0de> they are lining people up by the time that they checked in...
15:35 <@dc0de> either in person, or online...
15:35 <@dc0de> it's fuxore
15:35 <@dc0de> d
15:36 <@aestetix> dc0de: is this the TSA's doing?
15:36 <@aestetix> I don't understand why it's so bad.
15:36 <@dc0de> no, it's the policy of SouthWest airlines... they don't give seat assignments.
15:36 <@aestetix> No, I mean in general.
15:37 <@dc0de> oh, about how people don't care?
15:37 <@aestetix> The shitty flight schedules, at bad times, with multiple stops and layovers, and horrible prices.
15:37 <@aestetix> Atlanta is the busiest airport in the world. I'm pretty sure NYC is up there.
15:37 <@aestetix> And yet, nothing direct. At all.
15:38 < ware> cuz usux
15:38 <@dc0de> I think it's the general state of the airtravel industry... it's going to fall apart later this year, as fuel prices continues to climb to record highs, we're seeing airlines asking for permission to cancel flights that aren't 100% booked full.
15:38 <@aestetix> Shitty air travel is going to cripple commerce.
15:38 <@dc0de> I can't wait for this industry to collapse, as it will make room for smaller carriers with fresh new ideas on travel to fill in the gaps.
15:38 <@aestetix> Ahh.... true.
15:38 <@I-MOD> i'd like to see trains make a comeback
15:39 <@dc0de> aestetix; nah, most of the country's freight isn't put in airplanes.
15:39 <@dc0de> it's on trains.
15:39 <@aestetix> Trains are great, but slow.
15:39 <@aestetix> Let me try to nab a screenshot of this shit.
15:39 <@aestetix> It's awful.
15:39 <@dc0de> trains are great period
15:39 <@I-MOD> true, but there's plenty of new tech to go around on trains
15:39 <@dc0de> I just saw that GE has a train that goes 400 miles on 1 gallon of fuel, and it's in production
15:39 <@I-MOD> like passive levitation maglev
15:39 <@dc0de> in the US.
15:39 <@I-MOD> friggin sweet
15:40 < ware> maybe when its already running at top speed
15:40 <@dc0de> ware: regardless...
15:40 < ware> and running electric
15:40 <@I-MOD> why wouldn't it be running electric?
15:40 <@dc0de> ware: all trains in the US are electric drive
15:41 < ware> i will stfu then
15:41 <@I-MOD> diesel/electric hybrids
15:41 <@dc0de> and have been since the retirement of the steam engine
15:41 <@I-MOD> i guess some run on other stuff
15:41 <@I-MOD> i'd like to see a production implementation of maglev in the US
15:42 <@dc0de> I-MOD; I'm not sure that maglev is the most efficient... yet.
15:42 <@dc0de> it's fast, but as I recall, very power hungry
15:42 <@aestetix> http://md2600.org/~aestetix/shitty.JPG
15:42 <@aestetix> look at this
15:42 <@aestetix> I can't get anything better than that
15:42 <@I-MOD> they've found a way around that using eddy current induction for levitation
15:43 <@I-MOD> it translates forward momentum into upward force
15:43 <@dc0de> I-MOD; cool...
15:43 <@I-MOD> so once you get up to a certain speed, it just lifts up
15:44 <@I-MOD> but you have to find something to get up to that speed and maintain it
15:45 <@I-MOD> which means your propulsion can't be based on touching the tracks
15:45 <@dc0de> I wish I had my video camera...
15:45 <@dc0de> listening to dumb people, shouting on cell phones... from 30+ feet away...
15:45 <@I-MOD> and you can understand every word?
15:45 <@I-MOD> on both ends :D
15:45 <@dc0de> "Hi Ron, this is Uncle Dave!, you've probably been calling me some nasty names!"
15:46 <@dc0de> I'm thinking, no, but I am....
15:46 <@dc0de> STFU asshat!
15:46 <@dc0de> or at least stop shouting into the phone.
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15:51 <@aestetix> Is the fuel issue affecting airlines that much?
15:51 <@Catonic> dc0de: are you in an airport?
15:53 <@dc0de> yes.
15:53 <@dc0de> FLL
15:54 <@Catonic> I've never been there. I drove it.
15:54 <@Catonic> the great unwashed masses of a resort-town airport...
15:54 <@I-MOD> dc0de, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductrack
15:55 <@dc0de> this is better than Miami...
15:55 <@dc0de> Miami is a zoo
15:57 <@Neoteric> dc0de: hey mofo
15:57 <@Neoteric> dc0de: can you still eat bbq in moderation?
15:58 <@Neoteric> oooh I keep forgetting traffic in I75 sucks
15:58 <@SkyDog_> The shirts and swag are in for OZ, and they look good!
16:05 <@poiupoiu> awesome SkyDog_ !
16:05 <@poiupoiu> gonna have to bring some spare cash with me
16:07 <@dc0de> Neoteric; bbq? it's meat... I'm on a Low Carb/No Carb diet for the rest of my life... Meat is good food!
16:08 <@dc0de> gotta go... boarding.
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16:10 <@I-MOD> water?
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16:21 < ware> HEY
16:22 < ware> if i wanted to block every ip not in the US from accessing my website
16:22 < ware> would an .htaccess be sufficient
16:22 < ware> deny list
16:22 <@SkyDog_> I thought .htaccess was for logins.
16:22 <@SkyDog_> Does it deny by ip?
16:23 < ware> i thought you could
16:23 <@SkyDog_> I oculd be wrong...
16:23 <@SkyDog_> could even.
16:23 < ware> its at a webhost and they wont block the eastern hemisphere
16:23 <@SkyDog_> Ah.
16:23 <@critch> .htaccess can do most things you can do in the actual apache config
16:24 < ware> <Limit GET> Order Deny,Allow Deny from all Allow from 100.100.100.100
16:24 < ware> </Limit>
16:24 < ware> something like that but i obviously need a list of the blocks in the US
16:26 <@aestetix> ware
16:27 <@aestetix> why don't you add 127.0.0.1 irc.freenode.net in your hosts file
16:27 < ware> cuz i dont connect to irc.freenode.net, noob
16:28 <@aestetix> in which case it would do nothing
16:30 < ware> actually i could and it would work fine, even using chat.freenode.net
16:33 < ware> http://www.parkansky.com/china.htm
16:37 <@Neoteric> http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/2770/22949613418c22195077orw1.gif
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16:39 < MudFlap> http://www.blockacountry.com/ looks interesting also.
16:42 < ware> actually
16:42 < ware> yeah
16:42 < ware> haha i was about to link to that
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17:06 < R3d2Dawn> Hey all
17:06 < ware> sup
17:06 < R3d2Dawn> How's my favorite group doing?
17:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Hey, R3d2Dawn
17:19 < R3d2Dawn> Hey
17:19 < ware> HAY!
17:19 < ware> R U GON 2 OUTERZONE?
17:19 < ware> 2 B LEET HAX>?
17:21 < ware> LEET CHAIR HAX*
17:22 <@Dolemite> ware : duz u needs a hotel room reservation?
17:22 < AstralSin> sup all
17:22 <@Dolemite> since I have teh flu I won't be using mine
17:22 <@brimstone> hi AstralSin
17:23 <@brimstone> AstralSin: were you gonna be at OZ?
17:23 < ware> ive got one reserved
17:23 <@Dolemite> ok
17:23 < ware> but it doesnt have 2 beds
17:23 < AstralSin> no, got too much stuff goi on
17:23 <@Dolemite> I need to call and cancel mine
17:23 <@brimstone> boo
17:23 < ware> its got a queen and a sofa sleeper
17:23 < AstralSin> i only learned about it yesterday :)
17:23 <@Dolemite> ware : Yes it does, the sofa pulls out into a queen sized bed :P
17:23 < ware> well i meant 2 real beds
17:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Queens for queens?
17:24 <@Dolemite> Only in your room
17:24 <@Corydon76-dig> No, I've got a King, I think
17:24 < ware> stupid flu.
17:24 < ware> OZ wont be the same
17:24 <@Dolemite> yeah, I'm not at all happy
17:24 <@brimstone> first he leaves phreaknic, then outerz0ne...
17:26 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: since you're not bringing coil, can you find me another concubine?
17:26 <@brimstone> i'll check my stock
17:26 < AstralSin> damn, there's gonna be concubines?
17:27 <@brimstone> Men Concubines
17:27 <@Dolemite> only if you like sex0ring up young men
17:27 < AstralSin> oh
17:27 < AstralSin> nm
17:27 <@brimstone> i wonder if we're giving him the wrong idea about us...
17:27 <@brimstone> ... but then i remember i have concubines to look for
17:27 < AstralSin> don't worry, i've been warned :)
17:27 < AstralSin> anyone know Gaagii?
17:27 <@Dolemite> Just Say NO To Corydon76
17:28 < ware> yeeehaw
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17:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: hey, now, don't knock it till you've tried it
17:28 <@brimstone> don't knock it till you've knocked it?
17:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Or wait, there was that time in Atlanta with hugme
17:29 <@Dolemite> I don't need to jump off of a cliff to know that it's not for me.
17:29 <@brimstone> what if it has your name written on it in hot pink lipstick?
17:29 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: don't knock it till you've knocked one in?
17:29 < AstralSin> i don't even like taking big poops, i'm pretty sure i wouldn't like the mansex
17:29 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig: i guess that works
17:30 < ware> AstralSin: hahaha
17:30 < AstralSin> bbl, time to cook a steak
17:30 <@Corydon76-dig> AstralSin: I'm assured by guys I've fucked it's a completely different sensation
17:30 <@brimstone> more of an in than an out?
17:31 <@Corydon76-dig> I dunno, I never claimed to like it
17:31 <@Dolemite> Happy 5 Year Anniversary, Iraq Invasion!
17:32 <@brimstone> Dolemite: you don't have anniversaries for things that are suppose to end
17:32 <@Dolemite> Ah, sorry, didn't realize I need to add the <sarcasm /> tags
17:33 <@I-MOD> they generally help
17:33 <@Dolemite> I'm sure people have already posted the story about the killer goat, too...
17:34 <@Dolemite> but humor me for being late, I'm sickly today
17:34 <@Dolemite> ~minilink http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080319/NEWS/80319013
17:34 < MxZBot-> http://maxiez.com/l/tennessean.com/HV8gX
17:34 <@Dolemite> "Preacher Dies In Accident Involving Goat"
17:40  * brimstone waits for Dolemite to hear about the whale that dry docked at the voting poll
17:41 <@Dolemite> eh?
17:43 < ware> ess[;aom
17:43 <@brimstone> nope, not his nickserv pass
17:44 < ware> essplain*
17:44 < ware> is what that was
17:44 < ware> you should know my passwords are more secure than that
17:44 <@brimstone> actually...
17:44 <@Dolemite> ok, time to lay back down
17:44 <@Dolemite> dizzy time has returned
17:44  * ware makes a puke noise
17:47 < ware> t  d  d  a     o
17:47 < ware> o     o  v  p  r
17:47 < ware> o  y  n  e  a  d
17:47 < ware>    o  t     s
17:47 < ware> b  u     m  s
17:47 < ware> a     h  y  w
17:47  * Corydon76-dig smacks ware
17:51 <@Jagobah> hahaha
17:52 <@brimstone> man, PRI's Echoes (echoes.org) has some pretty rockin' music sometimes
17:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Jagobah: you headed to OZ?
17:54 <@Jagobah> what's OZ
17:54 <@Corydon76-dig> See topic
17:54 <@Jagobah> oh right /topic
17:56 <@Jagobah> looks interesting, how far is it from nashville
17:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Atlanta?  3.5 hours
18:02 <@Jagobah> ahhhh much too far for me
18:02 <@Corydon76-dig> If you'd like to go, the two guys I was planning to share the room with bailed this week, for lack of fundage... including carpool from Antioch
18:03 <@Jagobah> If it was next weekend I'd go but this weekend isn't good for me :(
18:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
18:03 <@Jagobah> say hi to dCode for me :)
18:06 <@Catonic> it's 3 hrs from bhm to bna, I'm led to believe
18:07 <@Catonic> I'm tempted to attempt to drive that in one night, but I don't think I need to stress myself any more than necessary.
18:18 <@Catonic> if someone sees shadowhntr, tell him to email me or something
18:27 < AstralSin> ahhh, that was a good steak
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18:30 <@Mirage> Well, I just had McDonald's...so nyah!!
18:30 < AstralSin> ew
18:31 < AstralSin> mcdonald's makes me feel like ass
18:31 < AstralSin> all fast food does, really
18:31 < AstralSin> except arby's
18:31 <@Mirage> Not eating anything makes me feel like ass
18:32 < AstralSin> i like to cook, so i normally just do that
18:32 <@Mirage> Hard to do when you only get a 30 min lunch break
18:33 < mtown_nerd> That's what yogurt, apples, baby carrots, and water are for! :D
18:33 < mtown_nerd> mmmm ^_^
18:33 <@Mirage> You obviously have never seen my snackfood for work
18:33 < mtown_nerd> lol
18:34 < mtown_nerd> Ramen, oreo cookies, powdered doughnuts, more ramen, and (for those days when you have to dispense with all the pleasentries) small packs of salt?
18:34 < mtown_nerd> :P
18:35 <@Mirage> Fruit/Grain bars, nuts, microwave soup, dried fruit, orange juice, V8, etc
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18:36 <@Catonic> Can I get into this food-off?
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18:37 < AstralSin> Mirage: i just make a sandwich before i leave in the morning for lunch
18:38 < AstralSin> Mirage: if i ate that stuff on a regular basis, i'd never leave the toilet
18:38 < AstralSin> i'm more down with what mtown_nerd is preachin
18:38 < AstralSin> ramen ftw
18:39 <@Catonic> salad + soy burger + ricotta + parmesan + microwave baked tater.
18:39 < AstralSin> soy burger? blasphemy!
18:39 <@Mirage> AstralSin: It's cheaper for me to do McD's than to bring in real food.  Dinner tonight was 3xDouble Cheeseburgers, medium fries, 2x apple pies, and a tea
18:40 <@Mirage> $6
18:40 < AstralSin> if i ate that, i'd be worthless the rest of the night
18:40 < mtown_nerd> $6 now...but at what cost later in life if you keep eating that regularly? :(
18:40 < AstralSin> making a sandwich and some chips doesn't cost $6 :) granted, its not glamorous, but it gets the job done
18:41 <@Mirage> For me it's not A sandwich..it's 3-4 sandwiches
18:41 < AstralSin> oh
18:41 <@Mirage> mtown_nerd: You've never met me, have you?
18:42 <@Catonic> Mirage: I don't think I've eaten a meal around you.
18:42 < AstralSin> mtown_nerd: what is this mtown you refer to in your nick?
18:42 <@Catonic> At least not sober anyway.
18:42 <@Mirage> Not sure.  I like giving NotLarry hell here at work when we order pizza because he can't even finish off a medium in one sitting
18:43 < AstralSin> i can only eat about 3 slices of a decent pizza
18:43 < AstralSin> and i'm a magnificent fatass
18:44 <@Mirage> Me to..I think I finally broke 115lb
18:44 < AstralSin> <-- pushin 280
18:45 <@Catonic> 176.
18:45 <@Catonic> I'm up because I worked out on monday, then got sick and haven't been to the gym since.
18:45 <@Mirage> Gaining back or just muscling up?
18:45 <@Mirage> heh, read my mind
18:46 <@Catonic> I 170 right before st. pat's weekend, then just like phreaknic, I got sloshed
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18:46 <@Catonic> put on 5 lbs in three days... and I wasn't eating anything but salad and soy stuff.
18:46 <@dc0de> wheeee!
18:46 <@Catonic> just all the carbs from alcohol
18:46 <@Catonic> dc0de: where has you now?
18:47 <@dc0de> JAX in the hotel.. about to order food...
18:47 <@Catonic> Mirage: I'm trying to do both at the same time
18:47 <@Catonic> jax? wtf are you doing a multi-city tour?
18:47 <@dc0de> that was a quick flight from FLL.
18:47 <@Catonic> you know that there are people down there we know...
18:47 <@dc0de> Catonic; yes, I'm travelling the cities of Florida, looking for the Ho-Chi-Man trail...
18:48 <@dc0de> Catonic; yes, I know that... and I've got too much work to do, and I'm tired of hell.
18:48 <@Catonic> sigh.
18:48 <@Mirage> Maybe you should be looking for the Fountain of Youth
18:48 <@dc0de> yeah...
18:48 <@Catonic> nothing like calling quigon and saying "dude, what are you doing? I'm in Jax."
18:48 <@dc0de> that'd be great.. . Mirage-do you have any directions?
18:49 <@Catonic> I'm going to hold on to that "you're only as old as the woman you feel thing."
18:49 <@dc0de> fountain of youth? I want to find the fountain of rich.
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18:49 <@Catonic> *" thing.
18:49 <@dc0de> Catonic; send me a young woman.
18:49 <@Catonic> dude, you're in FL and you can't find a woman... pfffffft
18:50 <@dc0de> Catonic; I didn't ask for perfect, I asked for young...
18:50 <@dc0de> I'm not that picky.
18:50 < AstralSin> how young?
18:50 <@Catonic> 19, 20, or 21?
18:50 < AstralSin> 12, 13?
18:50 <@dc0de> I'd be happy with 30.
18:50  * dc0de pisses on AstralSin's head.
18:50 < AstralSin> ew
18:50 <@Catonic> dc0de: have you been drinking?
18:51 <@dc0de> Catonic; nope... just tired... very fucking tired...
18:51 <@Catonic> dc0de: you want a 30 year old? internet dating...
18:51 <@Catonic> if you're a guy over 30, 'net dating...
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18:51 <@dc0de> Catonic; just for the night.
18:51 <@Catonic> because women over 30 are getting viscious...
18:52 <@Catonic> dc0de: just for the night? Craigslist...
18:52 <@dc0de> I don't want some scank...
18:52 < AstralSin> i'll take a skank
18:52 <@dc0de> AstralSin; and you'll take herpes, hep, and aids...
18:52 <@sdodson> HI
18:52 <@Catonic> what is hep?
18:52 < AstralSin> i never said i wouldn't use a rubber
18:53 <@dc0de> Catonic; jfgi - hep c
18:53 <@Catonic> hepatis
18:53 <@Catonic> I misspelled that, but it odesn't matter.
18:54 <@sdodson> why ont?
18:56 <@Mirage> http://youtube.com/watch?v=C6qEl7OiQEw
18:56 <@sdodson> xserver-1.5.0-no-evdev-keyboards-kthnx.patch
18:59 <@sdodson> http://flickr.com/photos/sepultura/2282088722/
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19:52 <@sdodson> http://sdodson.com/image001.jpg looks like a scene out of Ghost Busters
19:55 <@sasquatc4> ~weather 80111
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19:55 < MxZBot-> It's Partly Cloudy in Walnut Hills, Centennial, Colorado. It's 55.9 F (36 M, 13 C, 286 K).  Wind to the NE at 3.0Mph/4.8Kph.
19:55 <@sasquatc4> ~weather 33125
19:55 < MxZBot-> It's Scattered Clouds in REMS-Coconut Grove, Miami, Florida. It's 75.3 F (65 M, 24 C, 297 K).  Wind to the SSE at 6.0Mph/9.7Kph.
19:56 <@sasquatc4> uggh, next wednesday is too far away
19:56 <@sdodson> What's next Wednesday?
19:58 <@dc0de> Ruby Tuesday's delivers... mmmm Ribeye...
19:58 <@dc0de> Beef - It's what's for dinner!
19:58 <@sasquatc4> leavin for miami, winter music conference
19:59 <@sasquatc4> starts monday, but im not showin up till wednesday, full week of parties, pretty much every dj in the world is there for a week
20:00 <@sdodson> I think I'm going to stop eating beef
20:00 <@sdodson> unless it's in a steak quesadilla
20:01 <@Mirage> Moo
20:03 <@ladymerlin> whee
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20:59 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> yo! skydog ping ping ping ping
20:59 <@sdodson> PING !
21:00 <@brimstone> ping!
21:00 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ping ^ 80
21:00 <@dc0de>  fing
21:00 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyLrus1yKvI <- my brother fell for hacker humor
21:01 <@dc0de> "Help me Obi Wan, you have my only goat!!!"
21:03 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> hey... you paid me that goat to take your sister away
21:03 <@Catonic> lmfao
21:03 <@dc0de> yeah, I know... but that was Catonic's sister...
21:03 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> i still got the wort of the deal.....
21:03 <@Catonic> I don't have a sister.
21:03 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> opps.....
21:03 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> wart?
21:03 <@Catonic> mom?
21:03 <@dc0de> well, then, I don't know who's got what, cuz I ain't got a sister either.
21:04 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> from the sister
21:04 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> the goat was much cleaner
21:04 <@dc0de> but why did you take it back?
21:04 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> i sold em both to an etiopian village
21:05 <@dc0de> at least I don't have to worry about them coming back.
21:05 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> now I have olympic marathon runners throwing stones at my house drive-by style, demanding I take her back
21:05 <@dc0de> haha
21:06 <@dc0de> run-by-stonings...
21:06 <@Catonic> where do I sign ware up for it?
21:06 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> very fast... and lack of shoes makes em silent as well...
21:06 <@dc0de> sly fuckers, aint they?
21:07 <@Catonic> I still laugh about the guy who decide to pull a purse snatching in front the olympic sprint team
21:07 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> i tried to give em the leftover chinese food in the fridge... the rice woulda feed the whole village for a year... but the goat got to it first
21:07 <@dc0de> Catonic; link? video?
21:08 <@dc0de> that's as smart as robbing the police station.
21:08 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ohhh fast food freq... used to do that back in the day with vhf handsets... ill tell story in person... never online.. heh heh
21:09 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> anyone know what kinda projector wioll be used for the talks this weekend?
21:09 <@dc0de> nope... only what SkyDog_ emailed earlier.
21:10 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> need to get resolution......
21:10 <@dc0de> lemme look
21:10 <@sdodson> Catonic: fell for?
21:10 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ladymerlin? corydon? mudflap? anyone know?
21:11 <@dc0de> Obi_Wan_Shinobi; you impatient beotch... I'm looking through my email for the info
21:11 <@sdodson> Just assume 800x600 or something
21:12 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> custom fitting graphics for slideshow.....
21:12 <@Catonic> last night I was tripping balls..
21:12 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> cosidered surgery?
21:12 <@Catonic> I found a bottle of cough syrup in the wrong cabinet just now
21:13 <@sdodson> That's exciting.
21:14 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> dc0de.... I prefer bizNitch....
21:16 <@dc0de> what ev...
21:21 <@juice> Did everyone hear that Monica Lewinsky is endorsing Barrack Obama? She said the Clintons had left a bad taste in her mouth!
21:21 < cwire> zing!
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21:23 <@dc0de> boo
21:28 < AstralSin> juice: no, the real reason is that she went black and well.. you know the expression
21:28 <@juice> heh
21:30 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> that joke sucked
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21:36 <@sdodson> I liked it.
21:38 < cwire> has anyone been watching The Big Bang Theory?
21:38 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> heard of it.. but not about it.... wasnt watching preview..
21:39 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> any good?
21:39 <@sdodson> i had my mythtv machine set up but mythtv fails so regularly I don't think I've gotten any new episodes
21:39 <@dc0de> my wife needs this.... http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/cellphone/9e31/
21:39 < cwire> i'd been wanting to watch it since i saw previews for it and wound up watching all the episodes tonight, i've enjoyed it a lot so far
21:39 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ohh wait..... "took 4 years to get out of highschool?" and "I subscribe to what!?"
21:40 < cwire> yeah
21:40 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> that one?
21:40 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> hahah.. havnt had chance yet.. forgot the network... on their website?
21:40 < cwire> yep
21:42 < cwire> it's on cbs
21:42 < cwire> i torrented the episode so far
21:42 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ill watch in a bit then... oohhhh.... can be used for laptop security as well i suppose...
21:43 < cwire> there's only 1 full ep on their site
21:44 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> shit... just the current one? or the last one aired?
21:44 <@sdodson> I wish I had a separate number for work.
21:44 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> i mean... 1st or last?
21:44 < cwire> last
21:44 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> piratebay?
21:44 <@sdodson> I'd ignore more calls if that were the case. I'm not a cell phone person but if it's work related Ineed to answer it.
21:45 < cwire> i got it on mininova
21:45 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> decent resolution? any lame files to avoid?
21:45 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> I hate downloading for 3-4 weeks and its miss-named
21:46 < cwire> really good quality, there's a batch of 1-8, 9 just came out today or last night
21:47 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> damn... where have I been lately? 9 weeks so far??
21:47 < cwire> as far as i recall it's all properly named
21:47 < cwire> yeah, i felt the same way
21:47 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> 150-300 meg?
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21:48 < cwire> each ep is ~175
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22:05 <@ShadowHntr> it should not take 3 months to complete a 47gb torrent :P
22:05 <@sdodson> wtf is 47gb?
22:06 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: the entire series of Babylon 5
22:06 <@ShadowHntr> and it just finished season 1
22:06 <@ShadowHntr> after one full month
22:06 <@sdodson> I think it'd take less effort to just go buy the damn thing.
22:07 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: perhaps, but that's lower on my list then getting my other financial affairs in order.
22:07 <@ShadowHntr> one more job interview this week :D
22:09 <@Mirage> I wonder how long before the same people that were bitching about the 'ionic breeze' catch wind of this (from /.) and work to oppose it. http://itnews.com.au/News/72400,silent-microchip-fan-has-no-moving-parts.aspx
22:11 <@Mirage> I do love that in the very small article linked they neglect to mention that the method creates ozone, and also has a tendency to attract dust and other particles in the air
22:12 <@dc0de> and the fact that they won't work as well as a traditional fan.
22:12 <@Catonic> ~weather 35205
22:12 < MxZBot-> It's Overcast in Saulter Rd @ Raymond Dr, Birmingham, Alabama. It's 49.5 F (26 M, 9 C, 282 K).  Wind to the NNW at 5.4Mph/8.7Kph.
22:12 <@Catonic> ~weather 35294
22:12 < MxZBot-> It's Overcast in Saulter Rd @ Raymond Dr, Birmingham, Alabama. It's 49.5 F (26 M, 9 C, 282 K).  Wind to the NNW at 5.4Mph/8.7Kph.
22:12 <@Catonic> ~weather 35209
22:12 < MxZBot-> It's Overcast in Saulter Rd @ Raymond Dr, Birmingham, Alabama. It's 49.5 F (26 M, 9 C, 282 K).  Wind to the NW at 2.7Mph/4.3Kph.
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22:15 < Synx_hm> dc0de: you around?
22:15 < Synx_hm> remember that AN/FLR-9 Elephant Cage, HF DF'ing antenna array you were talking about?
22:15 < Synx_hm> i just happend to stumble upon one
22:16 <@dc0de> Synx_hm; where?
22:16 < Synx_hm> funny as someone was describing to me what they saw out the jet window... and i said... oh its a HF DF'ing antenna array
22:16 < Synx_hm> here in guam
22:16 <@dc0de> nice...
22:16 < Synx_hm> ya
22:16 <@dc0de> hasn't been torn down yet?
22:16 < Synx_hm> i actually haven't physically seen it with my own eyes
22:16 < Synx_hm> but i am going to do some research into it before i leave here
22:17 <@dc0de> sweet.
22:17 <@Catonic> dc0de: google earth
22:17 < Synx_hm> see if i can get down to it and take some photos
22:17 < Synx_hm> ya
22:17 <@dc0de> catonic, coords?
22:17 <@Catonic> loading now
22:18 <@dc0de> well, I'm off to bed soon, it's been a friggin long assed day.
22:18 <@Catonic>  13?35'36.96"N
22:19 <@Catonic> 144?51'9.20"E
22:21 < Synx_hm> looks like yahoo has some sat img of it
22:21 < Synx_hm> flashearth.com
22:21 < Synx_hm> ahh google has a better image
22:22 < Synx_hm> strange huh
22:22 < Synx_hm> well g'night peeps
22:23 <@dc0de> l8r Synx_hm ... fly safe bro...
22:24 < Synx_hm> wilco
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22:28 <@sdodson> Mirage: what do they bitch about?
22:28  * dc0de is away: off to bed.
22:29 <@Mirage> on the ionic breeze? Air quality due to ozone produced.
22:30 <@sdodson> that's bad?
22:30 <@Catonic> hey Synx_hm, are you getting activated or something?
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22:30 <@Catonic> Synx_hm: why are the houses on base angled the way they are?
22:31 <@Mirage> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7391185/
22:32 <@sdodson> Guess I shouldn't tell em that I like Duran Duran.
22:32  * dc0de is away: off to bed.
22:32 <@Mirage> not the best article about it, but it touches on it
22:35 < Synx_hm> Catonic: what ya mean?
22:35 < Synx_hm> Catonic: i think most stuff is inline with the runways but not sure
22:36 < Synx_hm> Catonic: that and they are all square for typhoons
22:37 < Synx_hm> afk for a while
22:38 <@Catonic> ok..
22:40 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> sdodson.. less time to rent each one from netflix-copy send for next one... one at a time
22:43 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: what's wrong with duran duran
22:43 <@ShadowHntr> :P
22:43 <@sdodson> Canadians hate em apparently.
22:44 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> and i'm guessing the only band they like is barenaked ladies? :P
22:45 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
22:48 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> phillip and terrance?
22:48 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> err i mean...
22:48 <@sdodson> say up jumped da boogie
22:50 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ba wit da bawl?
22:50 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> she dang she dang diggy diggy?
22:51 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> anyone remember "Stop the Cat-Box" ??
22:51 <@ShadowHntr> is that a serious question?
22:51 <@sdodson> Dead serious.
22:51 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eOLPrdd8JvU
22:51 <@ShadowHntr> Rock the Casbah by The Clash
22:52  * ShadowHntr is jammin' to The Clash - London Calling (MP3)
22:53 <@sdodson> Who are they?
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> a punk rock band
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clash
22:54 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> anyone have a cellphone with built-in crime deterent?
22:54 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KgoVrAR3YOo
22:54 <@brimstone> uk.youtube.com? is our youtube not good enough for you?
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22:55 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> did a websearch.... uk came up before the usa version
22:55 <@aestetix> You know what's awesome?
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22:55 <@aestetix> Having a splitting headache. On the train.
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22:55 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> uk youtube is awsome? or the crme deterent?
22:56 <@aestetix> And some motherfucking Kurt Cobaine wannabie hops on with his guitar and starts playing the most tone-deaf rendition of "nowhere man" ever.
22:56 <@aestetix> Resonating perfectly with your brain to set off the worst headache in modern history.
22:56 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> nahhh...... i got a better one......
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22:56 <@aestetix> A better one?
22:56 <@aestetix> That fucking happened to me tonight.
22:57 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> "the only choice were given is HOW MANY MEGATONS !!!! cause I hate you, and I berate you... and I...."
22:57 <@aestetix> The only thing more annoying is when I was stuck next to the old black guy in a wheelchair who puked up on himself.
22:57 <@aestetix> And then it dripped to the floor and started swirling around while the train was moving.
22:57 <@ShadowHntr> Obi_Wan_Shinobi: i have a few of those overdubs from that scene on my youtube favorites list
22:57 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> startrek 4/... the subway scene
22:58 <@ShadowHntr> including one overdubbed with the cantina theme from star wars ANH
22:58 <@sdodson> aestetix: I see you're still loving the big city!
22:59 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> shadowhunter... send me a link
23:00 <@Mirage> maybe i'll actually be able to read back and follow this conversation once I get home and drink a couple beers
23:00 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> good luck
23:01 <@aestetix> sdodson: how about the time I walked into a train car and half the walls and seats looked like someone had taken a can full of liquid shit and sprayed it everywhere
23:01 <@aestetix> I wasn't about to see if it was a baby ruth or not
23:01 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> I need a few cans of that before april 1st.. hehehe
23:01 <@Mirage> right now it just seems like:  and there i was, oh look a bicycle...oh, there was this one song that, oooo..shiny...where was i...
23:02 <@aestetix> I remember one night I got a text from a friend
23:02 <@aestetix> "Shooting on the train. Held me up 30 minutes."
23:02 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> and then the other hammer landed on his toe
23:03 <@sdodson> This is in boston?
23:03 <@aestetix> New York
23:03 <@sdodson> I'm considering moving downtown, for whatever value of downtown can actually be found in Raleigh
23:03 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> Mirage... Ill play the clip for you at OZ
23:03 <@Mirage> not going
23:03 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ohh
23:04 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> talking about loud crazy shit on subway
23:04 <@sdodson> Mirage: that sucks :(
23:05 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> startrek 4---- punkrocker playing loud song about blowing up the world.... everyone scared shitless... spock nerve pinches him... his head lands on boombox and it turns off... everyone cheers
23:05 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> and cant find it on youtube..
23:06 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> but they talking about people shitting themselves in public or something...
23:06 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMo-nt45BhY
23:06 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> thanks
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23:08 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> aha... here's the original!  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYU7LhaYYek&feature=related
23:09 <@ShadowHntr> youtube is messing with my firefox tonight
23:09 <@ShadowHntr> cause of their damn maintenance
23:09 <@ShadowHntr> :P
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23:11 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> my plugins are screwing up youtube.... maybe its flash downloader or something... keeps telling me to update to current flash version.....
23:11 <@ShadowHntr> i use downloadhelper
23:11 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> my copy without the downloader still works fine though.
23:12 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> new countermesure on youtube maybe?
23:12 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> same version number on both machines
23:12 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> most other plugins identical as well
23:12 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> still narrowing down the list
23:22 <@Catonic> and there's ShadowHntr
23:23 <@Mirage> No problems with my Greasemonkey plugin + script
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23:38 <@ShadowHntr> Catonic: ?
23:55  * timoguin needs help with MythTV!
23:55 <@Mirage> RTFM!
23:55 <@timoguin> for some reason the log dir filled up a 30GB partition
23:55 <@timoguin> so... i deleted them all
23:56 <@timoguin> thinking they would just be recreated.
23:56 <@timoguin> but they weren't.
23:56 <@Mirage> the mysql files?
23:56 <@Mirage> oh, shit
23:56 <@timoguin> yea i think
23:56 <@Corydon76-dig> That would be rather bad
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23:57 < scoil> unganged mode?
23:57 < scoil> for ram?
23:57 < scoil> huh
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: you can turn off the logging in /etc/my.cnf
23:59 < scoil> Corydon76-dig,
23:59 <@timoguin> what does it log exactly?
23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Just comment out the log-bin directive
23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> It's a binary log, containing every query ever run
23:59 <@timoguin> haha
23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> It allows you to replicate the data to another server
23:59 <@timoguin> ah... well, it filled up 30 gigs in, like, a day.
23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Ouch
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