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00:02 <@sdodson> lodi dodi
00:03 < scort> sdodson: [00:03:18] =!= [fren] #ware: You need to be invited to that channel
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00:09 <@dasunt> sdodson: How do you define "relatively sure"?
00:12 <@dasunt> http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/
00:27 <@sdodson> A psych review or something I guess. Just assume there's 50% or better chance
00:28 <@sdodson> I love listening to mp3s i've gleaned accidentally at lan parties. It's the only place you'll get a song from Blind Melon attributed to Tom Petty or a song from Rolling Stones listed as being the Doors.
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: i hate it when that happens.
00:30 <+scort> and i hate you
00:31 <@sdodson> That's why I don't fuck with grabbing shit online.
00:31 <@sdodson> Just rip my own stuff.
00:37 <@dasunt> sdodson: How soon of a 50% chance?
00:38 <@sdodson> within 3 years 2 months 7 days 8 hours and 13 m inutes
00:38 <@sdodson> come on man
00:38 <@dasunt> Hey, I'm just geeking on this.
00:39 <@dasunt> I'll go with whatever solution prevents the most crime for the same amount of money.
00:39 <@sdodson> for arguments sake lets just assume they tell you our right they'll kill someone when they get out
00:41 <@Dagmar> YOu make a nice little cubby below the frost line for them to lie in
00:44 <@sdodson> Not that I'm immune from getting bunk info from cddb
00:46  * sdodson wonders who's selling the most reliable 1TB drive these days
00:51 <@dasunt> sdodson: Seems to me that it is probably cost effective to keep them in prison.
00:52 <@dasunt> Oh, gotta love the CDDB.
00:52 <@dasunt> And how Disk #1 in the set has a different name format than Disk #2 in the set.
00:55 <@Dagmar> Stop using them then
00:55 <@Dagmar> Use MusicBrainz
00:55  * scort EatsBrainz
00:55 <+scort> too bad for the most part Dagmar, the servers are overloaded
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01:01 <@Dagmar> So stop pirating shit, dumbass
01:01 <@Dagmar> Although considering I was using them to tag some CDs just last month, I suspect you just need to stop using tin cans and string for interwebs
01:01 <+scort> i haven't fucking pirated shit in a while, dumbass
01:02 <@dasunt> Why does MySpace kill Opera under linux?
01:02  * dasunt kills -9 a few processes.
01:06 <@dasunt> He who lives as children live -- who does not struggle for his bread and does not believe that his actions possess any ultimate significance -- remains childlike.
01:12 <@ShadowHntr> dunno
01:12 <@ShadowHntr> i use firefox
01:12 <@ShadowHntr> :P
01:47 <@Dagmar> Man I'm done playing with this bitch here
03:03 < ware> wee
03:08 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/temp/peepshow.jpg
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03:22 < ware> haha nice
03:33 <@ShadowHntr> damn
03:33 <@ShadowHntr> had no damn clue that ROX was so damn hard to compile on a non-Linux host.
03:33 <@ShadowHntr> :P
03:33  * scort ROXORS ShadowHntr'S BOXORZ
03:33 <@ShadowHntr> maybe it's cause my GTK and Glib is so damn old.
03:33 <@ShadowHntr> hehehe sup scort
03:33 <@ShadowHntr> scort: ROX is a clone of the desktop environment used by RISC/OS
03:34 <+scort> nothing, just paypal charged to the wrong account
03:34 <+scort> so now my checking account is negative :/
03:34 <@ShadowHntr> uh oh
03:34 <@ShadowHntr> :/
03:34 <+scort> i told it to use the cc on every order, too
03:34 <@Evilpig> sucks for you
03:34 <@Catonic> apt-get install dev-head
03:34 <+scort> maybe paypal is being lame and not putting shit on my cc anymore
03:35 <@Evilpig> I might be fucking up my terabyte array right now
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03:35 <@ShadowHntr> scort: http://rox.sourceforge.net/
03:35 <@ShadowHntr> wtf
03:35 <@ShadowHntr> :P
03:35 <+scort> Evilpig: http://gallery.wilpig.org/v/family/Christmas2001-Murray/DSC00779.jpg.html
03:35 <@Evilpig> soap on a rope that we gave corrine
03:36 <+scort> ohh, that's soap
03:36 <@ShadowHntr> scort: i'm checking out alternative desktop environments that may be more lightweight than straight gnome, kde or xfce
03:36 <@Evilpig> she threw it at my brother and of course he had to fondle it
03:37 <@Catonic> I
03:37  * scort stfuppercut Catonic
03:37 <@Catonic> can't see straight today
03:37 <+scort> stop jerking off so much
03:38 <@Catonic> hahaha
03:38 <@Catonic> scort:ur so funy
03:38 <+scort> i know, aren't i?
03:39 <@Evilpig> wooo!  7gb of unallocated space on the end of my TB
03:40 <@Evilpig> now I can make a fat32 partition and put a ghost image of my boot drive on it.
03:41  * scort can't wait till he can build a TB raid
03:41 <+scort> c'mon tuesday
03:41  * Catonic just grins like a cheshire cat
03:41 <@ShadowHntr> can't wait till my job interviews on Monday
03:43 <@Catonic> im just living life from way day to the next loving every second
03:44 <@Catonic> my only qualms... my only stresses in life...
03:44 <@Catonic> are where the fuck did my pointer go?
03:45 <+scort> meow
03:47 <@Catonic> scort:you fail the 6'7" test.
03:47 <+scort> you fail other types of tests.
03:48 <@Catonic> I've been drinking.
03:48 <+scort> i hope you're a lil bit more tolerant
03:48 <+scort> cuz i can't stand you hahaah
03:48 <@Catonic> I couldn't walk a straight line but got myself home safely.
03:48 <@Catonic> n00gums was in town. I had to drink.
03:50 < ware> Evilpig: uh
03:50 < ware> http://wilpig.org/temp/Sam_2.jpg
03:50 < ware> who is sam?
03:50 <@Evilpig> sam is sam
03:50 < ware> please tell me thats the 19yr old roommate
03:51 <+scort> Catonic: dui 's are cool
03:51 <@ShadowHntr> scort: ?
03:51 <+scort> ShadowHntr: ?
03:51 <@ShadowHntr> <scort> Catonic: dui 's are cool
03:51 <@ShadowHntr> you wanna elaborate?
03:52 <+scort> [03:49:00]     @Catonic | I couldn't walk a straight line but got myself home safely.                                                ???@Neoteric
03:52 <@ShadowHntr> ahhhh
03:52 <+scort> c'mon boy, keep up
03:54 <@Catonic> scort: I got a speeding ticket for stopping at a red light in this town. Do you really think I believe in a DUI here?
03:54 <+scort> ?
03:54 <+scort> speeding ticket at a red light?
03:55 <@Catonic> BINGO
03:55 <+scort> hows that possilbe
03:55 <+scort> how fast did they say you were going?
03:55 <@Catonic> I'm not fucking nuts, this is like the nyc of the south
03:56 <+scort> i would hope not, that sounds painful
03:56 <@Catonic> it doesn't matter. the cop got a wild hair up his ass and it tickled wrong so he wrote me a ticket for speeding
03:57 <@Catonic> the city of bhm will allow the officer to amend the ticket UNTIL IT IS CORRECT
03:57 <+scort> lawl.
03:59 <@Catonic> its an interesting city, i will say that
03:59 <+scort> i didn't like it downtown by the greyhound station
03:59 <@Catonic> i don't know that the cop would testify for you ...
03:59 <+scort> couldn't go anywhere without someone asking for fucking something
04:00 < ware> Evilpig: the beans
04:00 <+scort> and i was stuck on a 2 hr layover
04:00 < ware> Evilpig: ?
04:00 <+scort> so fuck your BHM
04:00 <@Catonic> but this may be one of those places where the best thing to go is apologize profusely, and comply with every order.
04:00 <@Evilpig> beans?
04:00 < MxZBot-> beans are good
04:00 <+scort> it's marked as sux in my book
04:00 < ware> Evilpig: yes, spill them
04:00 <+scort> mmm beans
04:00 < ware> is she the roommate?
04:00 <@Evilpig> about what?  sam?  sam is sam
04:00 <+scort> i wanna fart
04:00 < ware> i know sam is sam and i know sam i am
04:00 <+scort> brb ima warm up beens
04:01 <+scort> i do not want green eggs and ham.
04:01 <@Catonic> 4 am i have to be at wrk at 7...
04:01 <@Evilpig> sam is a friend of a friend and that is it.  what am I still doing up at 4am?
04:01 < ware> Catonic: wth are you doing :P
04:01 <@Catonic> holy fuck, will my liver even work that fast?
04:01 < ware> im playing WoW =/
04:01 < ware> but im sober
04:01 <+scort> im smoking pot
04:01 <@Catonic> Evilpig: iirc you're an insomniac
04:01 <+scort> and sitting on irc
04:01 <@Evilpig> something like that
04:02 <+scort> thinking about beans
04:02 < ware> WoW == insomnia
04:02 <@Evilpig> i've been working on this 2003 server all night.
04:02 <@Evilpig> I could log onto wow and do dailies to make some cash
04:02 < ware> im working on my pally quest line for my epic mount
04:02 <@Catonic> Evilpig: when you use 2003, do you feel... cheap and cheated?
04:02 < ware> need 40g and its done
04:03 <@Evilpig> only when it decides to shit itself for no good reason and make me run a repair install
04:03 <@Evilpig> but my mobile email server runs on it so it is a necessary evil
04:03 <@Evilpig> http://blueboy.wilpig.org:81
04:04 <@Catonic> I just see no difference bwtween it and the previous version
04:04 <@Evilpig> that is just a newer service pack
04:04 <@Evilpig> but it crapped itself and I had to reinstall everything from scratch
04:04 < ware> whats my password?
04:04 <@Evilpig> eatshit
04:04 <@Catonic> CUNT
04:05 <@Catonic> as in WORTHLESS CUNT
04:05  * Catonic believes in full disclosure: he has been drinking.
04:06 <@ShadowHntr> well i'm off to bed as soon as i finish this beer
04:06 <@ShadowHntr> g'nite
04:06 <@ShadowHntr> :)
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04:07 < ware> haha Catonic you lubz me
04:07 < ware> dont lie
04:08 <+scort> wtf
04:08 <+scort> why do i have a lighter in each pocket
04:09 < ware> mysteries of the untold past
04:09 < ware> you need a lighter in each pocket much like a brick hangs in the sky
04:09 <+scort> are my roommates fucking retarded
04:09 <+scort> ~weather 78247
04:09 < MxZBot-> It's Clear in Encino Park - The Ridge, San Antonio, Texas. It's 59.0 F (41 M, 15 C, 288 K).  Wind to the ENE at 3.0Mph/4.8Kph.
04:09 <+scort> why the fuck do they have the ac set to 60F
04:10 <+scort> open up a fucking window
04:10  * scort goes outside to turn off the ac compressor at the fuse box
04:14  * scort gets sick from moving around and ate too many beans :(
04:29 <@Evilpig> damn .net 3.0 takes too fucking long to install
04:30 <@Catonic> ~weather 35205
04:30 < MxZBot-> It's Partly Cloudy in Birmingham, Alabama. It's 48 F (24 M, 8 C, 281 K).  Wind to the North at 8Mph/13Kph.
04:34 <+scort> -PDC:#windowsnt- MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced
04:34 <+scort> (L0ki) MCSE=Mindsweeper Consultant and Solitare Expert
04:34 <+scort> (nexxai) MCSE = Must Consult (with) Someone Else
04:56 < ware> MCSE STFU COIL
04:56 < ware> :D
05:20 <@Catonic> ware: rsdb.org
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08:57 <@sdodson> http://avi.alkalay.net/2008/03/becoming-vegetarian.html
08:57 <@sdodson> peaches and creame
09:02 <@sdodson> A hundred dollars used to be more than enough, and now a hundred times a day it still is not enough.
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09:50 <@Dagmar> Sounds like you have a pretty serious masturbation problem there
09:58 <@sdodson> It costs you $100 to wank?
10:15 <@sdodson> When Sum 41 is listed in the iTunes punk essentials I have to say that I think iTunes will die.
10:47 <@Catonic> heh
10:53 <@sdodson> Catonic: they have flogging molley (sp?) in there too!
11:02 <@oddball> You have a problem with flogging molly being classified as punk?
11:07 < adrenaline> morning?
11:07 < MxZBot-> morning is upon us!
11:07 < adrenaline> lol
11:07 <@sdodson> Are wireless speakers any good?
11:08 <@sdodson> oddball: no
11:08 < adrenaline> Hey I am part of a domain a work and they have some stupid TTL of 10 minutes for a login. Does anybody know how to write and interactive script to keep the ttl alive?
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11:09 <@dc0de> whee
11:09 < adrenaline> or know of one that is already written?
11:09 <@dc0de> adrenaline; are you saying that you are logged off after 10 minutes?
11:09 < adrenaline> yes
11:09 <@dc0de> is this a terminal server or citrix server?
11:09 < adrenaline> group policy that sux
11:10 < adrenaline> No AD domain
11:10 <@dc0de> or is it your local machine?
11:10 < adrenaline> It is logging into my local machine
11:10 < adrenaline> into the domain
11:10 <@dc0de> screen saver or is it completely logging you out?
11:10 < adrenaline> completely logs me out
11:11 <@dc0de> I'd simply stay logged out and go outside...
11:11 <@dc0de> it's a beautiful day.
11:11 < adrenaline> lol
11:11 < adrenaline> Ya but what do I do when it rains
11:11 <@dc0de> tell your boss that you can't get your work done because of the stupid 10 minute logout policy.
11:11 < adrenaline> Ya that was the first thing I tried
11:12 < adrenaline> It happens with the vpn too but i wrote a perl script that prints the letter p in a shell and that seems to keep my vpn alive but didn't work for domain
11:12 <@dc0de> then, I'd try to find things that I'd like to do when it rains...
11:13 < adrenaline> Thanks but not the answer I was looking for
11:13 <@Dagmar> So, I"m guessing you chose 'p' because of the pointy end making it easier to pry open a half-closed link?
11:13 <@dc0de> can you install software on the system?
11:13 < adrenaline> I must try  and beat this
11:13 < adrenaline> Yes dc0de
11:13 <@dc0de> mr0nin Dagmar
11:13 < adrenaline> Dagmar, P was just random
11:14 <@dc0de> then I'd install some macro keystroke tool, to open and close a window as my user.
11:14 <@dc0de> simulating keystrokes.
11:14 < adrenaline> I like that answer better any suggestions?
11:14 <@dc0de> or I'd go to www.jfgi.com, and look there.
11:15 < adrenaline> sweet thank dc0de
11:15 <@dc0de> newby bait.
11:15 <@dc0de> jeebus
11:17 <@dc0de> Dagmar; can you make my day any easier?
11:17 <@Dagmar> Eliminate the number of er
11:17 <@Dagmar> Reduce the number of people around you who annoy you.
11:17 <@dc0de> pi?
11:18 < adrenaline> dc0de, I think that might be of help if I wasnn't an atheist
11:18 <@dc0de> isn't pi == 3 now?
11:18 < adrenaline> Thanks for the guidence
11:18 <@Dagmar> Only in Kentucky
11:18 <@dc0de> thanks Dagmar
11:18 <@dc0de> I need clarification sometimes...
11:18 <@sdodson> SP1 hitting WU Tuesday
11:18 <@dc0de> I wish I owned jfgi.com
11:19 < adrenaline> I am guessing either this can't be done or you don't know how
11:19 <@dc0de> sdodson; for vister?
11:19 < adrenaline> Thanks for your time anyway
11:19 <@sdodson> yes
11:19 <@dc0de> adrenaline; the best way to solve your problem is to show your bosses why it's a stupid policy.
11:19 <@dc0de> other than that, change jobs, or deal with it.
11:20 <@dc0de> hacking your company owned system is only the beginning of a slippery slope.
11:20 < adrenaline> I was hoping to get around it without anybody but you knowing
11:20 <@dc0de> and even though I know how to do it, I'm a firm believer in Dagmar's policy on teaching...
11:21  * dc0de passes this particular baton to Dagmar 
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11:22 <@dc0de> mr0nin Catonic
11:23 < mtown_nerd> Mornin', all!
11:23 <@Dagmar> adrenaline: You just keep in mind that if something serious goes wrong there, YOU are going to be Suspect Number Motherfucking One
11:23 <@Dagmar> ...just because you were doing some shit that they couldn't see.
11:24 <@Dagmar> Most VPNs have a keepalive mechanism, just like telnet does.
11:24 <@Dagmar> Dig into those docs
11:25 < adrenaline> I have the vpn licked it is the Domain group policy that is annoying me
11:25 <@dc0de> my point exactly.  It's a DOMAIN GROUP Policy...
11:25 < adrenaline> I was hoping jsut a little script that looked like I was working would fix this
11:25 <@Dagmar> It's keeping you from doing what?
11:25 <@dc0de> either get moved to another group, or deal with it.
11:26 < adrenaline> Well not to confuse things but I use Ubuntu on my desktop and I rdp to my domain into a VMware. If I am working ON my linux I have to log int omy windows session every 10 minutes
11:26 < adrenaline> VMware is not local to my lappy
11:26 <@dc0de> or simply work while connected.
11:26 < adrenaline> I rdp to a esx server
11:27 <@dc0de> and let it disconnect.
11:27 < adrenaline> Would you guys put up with it knowing you wouldn't have too?
11:27 <@Dagmar> So... Windows users are on their own, as far as I care
11:27 <@dc0de> I happen to write and follow group policies...
11:28 <@dc0de> and yes, I "put up" with security requirements.
11:28 <@Dagmar> I have trouble believing they made a group policy just to limit your rdp sessions to 10 minutes
11:28 <@dc0de> since they are approved several pay grades above mine.
11:28 < adrenaline> It isn't the RDP session that is limited it is the actual log in to the domain
11:28 <@dc0de> Dagmar; 10 minutes of INACTIVITY.
11:29 <@Dagmar> Crist that's for his own good
11:29 <@dc0de> adrenaline; is this a DoD employer?
11:29 < adrenaline> ?
11:29 <@dc0de> Dagmar; I know.
11:29 <@dc0de> that's my point.
11:29 < adrenaline> DoD?
11:29 <@dc0de> adrenaline; what kind of company do you work for?
11:29 < adrenaline> Why is it for my one good? It seems so counter productive
11:30 < adrenaline> I am a Linux/Unix Administrator
11:30 <@dc0de> adrenaline; do you work for a financial institution, a federal government or state government, or who?
11:30 < adrenaline> None of those
11:31 <@dc0de> ok, please tell me what KIND of company/organization it is.
11:31 < adrenaline> It is a private corporation
11:31 <@dc0de> is it a school/university? what kind of corporation, what business are they in?
11:31 <@Dagmar> So, they've got no requirement to be accurate about who they hang out to dry...
11:32 <@Dagmar> ...and possibly a vested interest in covering things up or scapegoating someone.
11:32 <@Dagmar> It's exceptionally fuckin' smart to try to violate policies at a place like that to connect your workstation to your home network.
11:32 < adrenaline> Alright I see your point but do you at least agree that 10 minutes is rediculous?
11:32 <@dc0de> Dagmar; All I know is that they don't HAVE to abide by SarBOx
11:32 <@Dagmar> It makes sure the spooks take ALL your equipment when someone decides you'll make a nice scapegoat.
11:32 <@Dagmar> dc0de: exactly.
11:33 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Meaning how they audit their internal investigation is nonexistant
11:33 <@dc0de> adrenaline; what KIND of business does your company do?
11:33 < adrenaline> I can't tell you here?
11:33 <@dc0de> adrenaline; what legislative requirements does your company have to follow?
11:33 < adrenaline> We do have sarbox though and ttl is not a part of it
11:34 <@dc0de> do you have any idea?
11:34 < adrenaline> yes
11:34 <@dc0de> and can you tell us what requirements you have?
11:34 < adrenaline> We have to abide by Sarbox and PCI
11:34 <@dc0de> Which level of PCI?
11:34 < adrenaline> Not exactly positive on the level of PCI
11:35 <@dc0de> do you issue cards?
11:35 < adrenaline> But really would PCI need a 10 minute timeout
11:35 < adrenaline> We do not issue cards
11:35 <@dc0de> it depends on what the systems hold for data
11:36 <@dc0de> do you do more than 6 million PCI transactions per month?
11:36 < adrenaline> Probably not
11:36 <@sdodson> PCI = extortion
11:36 <@dc0de> are you a payment gateway?
11:36 < adrenaline> nope
11:36 <@dc0de> are you connected to VisaNet?
11:36 < adrenaline> Possible we accept payment for a product
11:37 <@dc0de> then you are a Level 1 service provider, in which case, I wouldn't fuck with any of the controls.
11:37 < adrenaline> Alright sucks though
11:37 <@dc0de> because if they're not auditing them now, they will after the next PCI audit.
11:37 < adrenaline> I appreciate your advice you all sound like you know what you are doing
11:38 <@dc0de> and even your little script will show up... making you the best scapegoat on the planet.
11:38 < adrenaline> dually noted
11:38 <@sdodson> except me, I have no clue what I'm doing, you're best served to ignore everything I say
11:38 <@dc0de> "Company X lost 30,000 Credit Card numbers due to an unamed unix administrator who violated company policy and exposed the data to the internet... more on page 3"
11:39 <@dc0de> sdodson; nice play...
11:39 <@dc0de> Catonic; ping
11:40 <@sdodson> I'm being like totally serious yo.
11:40 <@sdodson> just ask dagmar
11:40 <@dc0de> sdodson; you know plenty... I know that for a fact.
11:40 < adrenaline> ya I wasn't exposing anything just trying to stay logged into the domain
11:40 <@dc0de> sometimes the usefulness is questionable....
11:41 < adrenaline> ya
11:41 <@dc0de> adrenaline; it doesn't matter... that's the point.
11:41 < adrenaline> Thanks for the chat guys I really do appreciate your advice
11:41 <@dc0de> if you want to be their bitch, keep digging, otherwise, just deal...
11:41 < adrenaline> I will deal I am not anybodies bitch
11:41 <@sdodson> Having terminals lock after 10 minutes of inactivity is fine, but logging out is just asking for lost work.
11:41 < adrenaline> anybody's
11:42 <@dc0de> adrenaline; the point we're trying to make, is that while we can fuck with company networks, it's really not worth being put in jail with a guy named Earl who was busted for sodomizing a 12 year old that looks just like you, because what you had to deal with was inconvenient.
11:43 <@dc0de> o == your asshole, O == your asshole in jail.
11:43 < adrenaline> Good point
11:43 <@sdodson> Earl has softened up over time, he now uses lotion.
11:44 <@dc0de> while PCI is a huge issue at executive levels and they are over reacting everywhere... give it some time, and I'm sure that policy will soften up...
11:44 < adrenaline> You probably saved my life, Or at least my O
11:44 < adrenaline> Thanks
11:44 <@dc0de> btw,    . == my asshole
11:44 < adrenaline> lol
11:44 <@dc0de> it's pucked all the time....
11:44 <@dc0de> s/pucked/puckered
11:45 <@sdodson> i didn't know you were jewish
11:46 <@dc0de> only when it suites my purposes... oi'
11:46 <@dc0de> sdodson; my brother and I can make copper wire fighting over a penny.
11:53  * dc0de smacks himself in the head.
11:53 <@dc0de> duh.
11:53 <@dc0de> sometimes I'm just dumb as a rock.
11:55 <@dc0de> trying to install crossover office pro on x64 ubuntu, and didn't try the loki installer... just the .deb file.
11:55 <@dc0de> the loki installer worked perfectly.
11:56 <@dc0de> it's amazing what happens when you search the FAQs.
11:56 <@tzanger> heh
11:56 <@tzanger> you know what I love
11:56 <@dc0de> ??
11:56 <@dc0de> hit me
11:56 <@tzanger> I love bios flashers (in rom) that only look at floppy and not even usb
11:56 <@tzanger> fuck floppies
11:57 <@dc0de> yeah, I actually had an issue with that the other day on some dell servers...
11:57 <@dc0de> they won't look at USB, and the servers don't even HAVE floppies.
11:57 <@dc0de> we had to pull them from the rack, find the floppy connection, find a floppy DRIVE, and a floppy DISK....
11:57 <@dc0de> it tooks 3 hours. to find all the parts...
11:58 <@dc0de> that was a pain in the ass
12:01 <@tzanger> yeah it's just a pain
12:02 <@dc0de> agreed...
12:02 <@dc0de> we need to upgrade all of our motherboards in the demo lab to accept USB Boot...
12:02 <@dc0de> but it's $$$, and that's just not enough for the powers that hold the checkbook to part with a check.
12:03 <@dc0de> I want them to upgrade the bios next time.
12:04 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; ping?
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12:23 <@sdodson> tzanger: for what machine?
12:23 <@tzanger> old machine, ddr400 based system
12:24 <@sdodson> like dell? what?
12:24 <@tzanger> no, gigabyte mobo, no-name 1u
12:24 <@sdodson> Dell has been pretty good lately about porviding utilities to flash from within linux.
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12:39 <@dc0de> sdodson; I haven't seen those yet...
12:39 <@dc0de> but then again, I haven't looked, I've moved to Lenovo for desktop hardware.
12:41 <@sdodson> I don't know that they do it for desktop stuff anyway.
12:41 <@dc0de> right...
12:42 <+scort> fixboot
12:43 <@dc0de> brb, restarting X
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12:54 <@SkyDog_> pong.
12:54 <@dc0de> shit, I forgot what I was going to ask you.
12:54 <@dc0de> I guess it's not that important...
12:54  * dc0de hates forgetting.
12:56 <@SkyDog_> heh.
12:56 <@dc0de> oh, do you want an APC ups for HC?
12:56 <@dc0de> it is going to need new batteries...
12:56 <@dc0de> but the control system and hardware work fine.
12:57 <@SkyDog_> what size?
12:57 <@dc0de> it's either an SU2800 XL - NET or an SU3000 XL NET
12:57 <@dc0de> I can't remember
12:57 <@dc0de> it takes a 110v 30A circuit
12:57 <@dc0de> I wired it specifically in my garage.
12:57 <@SkyDog_> Cool. yeah, if you wanna get rid of it.
12:58 <@dc0de> when I decommission my rack in my garage, it's the property of HC.
12:58 <@SkyDog_> cool.
12:58 <@dc0de> my pleasure.
12:59 <@dc0de> java in a 64bit machine is a bitch.
13:00 <@SkyDog_> heh.
13:00 <@dc0de> I moved my linux from 32 to 64 over the past 3 days...
13:00 <@dc0de> and java is the only thing that is fucking with me...
13:00 <@dc0de> and icedtea doesn't work reliably.
13:04 <@SkyDog_> that sucks.
13:04 <@dc0de> yeah, so I've got firefox 64 and firefox 32 installed, and I'm trying to manually install the java 1.5 jre in the firefox32.
13:04 <@dc0de> it's a pain in the ass
13:05 <@dc0de> and you can't run both at the same time.
13:05 <@dc0de> wtf with these companies that won't write a 64bit "add-on" for browsers? Flash, Java, etc...
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13:17 <@Catonic> ok.. LB knows about outerz0ne.
13:17 <@Catonic> he says he's gonna show...
13:18 <@ladymerlin> cool
13:19 <@sdodson> I'll let other people deal with the headache of 64bit stuff, there's no compelling reason for me to use it.
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13:21 <+scort> yep
13:21 <+scort> sdodson: so will a 32 bit version of (OS) work with 64 bit aritechure
13:27 <@dc0de> sdodson; it's quicker, but I'm still fighting the issues with the damn browser shit.
13:27 <@dc0de> and it addresses all 4GB of memory.
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13:44 <@Catonic> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2328240/ <- nice.
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13:57 <@Catonic> rattle: sup man?
13:58 <@dc0de> if I can get java to work in IE via crossover with Java, I'm going to lose it.
13:58 <@dc0de> and I can't get it to work in Linux native 64.
13:59 <@Catonic> dc0de: I feel your pain. I've been there. Fortunately, my customers were CS students...
13:59 <@rattle> I just realized I never booked airfare to Atlanta this weekend..  heh
13:59 <@Catonic> "Hey this shit doesn't work..." "You're a fucking CS major... FIX IT YOURSELF!"
14:00 <@Catonic> rattle: I guess you're driving :-p
14:00 <@dc0de> or going to cheaptickets.com
14:00 <@rattle> Checking what I can get on farecast.com right now..
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14:02 <@rattle> Yep.  Looks like I'm driving.  It's $531 otherwise..  Grr..  I should have remembered to check last week..  The fares dipped to $180 for awhile...  I missed the sweet spot.
14:02 <@Catonic> gas prices are up...
14:02 <+scort> 3.15 yay
14:02 <@Catonic> I still need to fill my rabbit, and it's almost $4/gal diesel..
14:03 <@Catonic> in one county in IN, it's over $4/gal for regular
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14:03 <+scort> sux for them
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14:10 <@rattle> Fuck it.  I'm booking anyway.  If I don't fly, I can't bill for Friday.  So it kinda balances out.
14:10 <@Catonic> rattle: are you a conslutant?
14:11 <@rattle> Would someone be able to pick me up at the airport Friday around 7pm?
14:11 <@rattle> Catonic:  I am an expensive consultant.  :)
14:12 <@Catonic> ah... well then you can write it off at the end of the year
14:12 <@rattle> Or 8pm rather..
14:12 <@Corydon76-dig> I thought you worked with Neoteric
14:12 <@rattle> I do.
14:12 <@rattle> He is staff.  I am a consultant.
14:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
14:13 <@Catonic> rattle: you dirty whore.
14:13 <@Catonic> oh, hey.. you work with Neoteric?
14:13 <@Catonic> Put a bug in his ear for me...
14:13 <@rattle> I'll probably be coming on staff soon.  I pretty much run infosec and backend ops at this point..
14:14 <@Catonic> I just realized that Neoteric and rattle working for the same employer is a scary thought.
14:14 <@rattle> Oh, it is scary.  The world should phear.
14:15 <@rattle> We make a pretty decent team actually.  He runs datacenter ops for all the websites, I run everything else.
14:15 <@Corydon76-dig> What's even scarier is that you've probably heard of the employer several times in the last few weeks in the news, and you never realized it
14:16 <@rattle> Way more than several times.. :)
14:16 <@Corydon76-dig> I've heard them mentioned several times on NPR, which isn't exactly a news source overflowing with pundits
14:16 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: I don't watch TV.
14:17 <@rattle> In the past four weeks, we've had two people in the Daily Show, one on Real Time, and at least four or five folks on the various 24/hr news stations.
14:17 <@Corydon76-dig> rattle: you need to be explicit about which "Real Time".  I know of at least two shows with that name.
14:18 <@rattle> The Bill Maher one..
14:18 <@Corydon76-dig> one of which is a 60 minute interview with movie directors
14:19 <@rattle> When Daschle was on the Daily Show last week, the pre-party the day before was at our office.. :)
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14:25 <@rattle> Ok.  So who wants to pick me up at the airport at 8pm?  :) :) :)
14:26 <@dc0de> rattle; on what night?
14:26 <@rattle> Friday
14:26 <@dc0de> friday? or thurs?
14:26 <@dc0de> why don't you ride marta up to Perimeter Mall?
14:26 <@rattle> Well, I guess that works too.. :)
14:26 <@dc0de> it's only about 8miles from there to the hotel...
14:26 <@rattle> I forget that the marta exists sometimes..
14:27 <@dc0de> the train up to perimeter is pretty reliable.
14:28 <@rattle> Werd.  Thanks for the tip.
14:28 <@rattle> Grr..  I'm going to kick myself in the ass for a little while for not remembering to book tickets till now.
14:28 <@dc0de> and from there, I can prolly come get you, it's only a few exits away.
14:28 <@rattle> Excellent.
14:29 <@rattle> I'm going to bounce out for a few..  I'll be back online later.
14:29 <@dc0de> and since I don't drink, it'll be safe.
14:35 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; do we have any time slots for a CA Cert and Thawte signing session?
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14:57 <@Catonic> Why is it that when you spend $50 on a pair of dress shoes, you get the feeling that you should have paid $200 for a decent pair of shoes after all the crap starts breaking
14:58 <@dc0de> Catonic; that's the world we live in...
14:58 <@dc0de> why does a car only last 8 years?
14:58 <@dc0de> why is it that we have advanced polymers that can return to their original shape, and absorb energy, but we can't put them on automobiles?
14:58 <@dc0de> because we'd remove the ability of body shops to have a job.
14:59  * Catonic ponders installing a stripper pole in his apartment.
14:59 <@Catonic> dc0de: I'm looking at a 2002 Honda Accord... don't say that...
15:00 <@dc0de> why do we have to look towards a foreign country for answers to our Oil Dependency?
15:00 <@dc0de> s/country/countries?
15:02 <@Catonic> because if didn't provide them with modern technology in exchange for oil they'd still be throwing rocks at each other and fucking camels?
15:02 <@Catonic> *if we
15:04 <@dc0de> no, I'm thinking more along the lines of the car powered by compressed air.
15:04 <@Catonic> I'm sure you can look at it from the perspective of an intelligence analyst..
15:04 <@Catonic> we're fucked.
15:05 <@dc0de> yup.
15:05 <@dc0de> completely.
15:05 <@dc0de> because we have "cronyism" in positions of power that refuse to say "NO" to pocket stuffing lobbyists
15:05 <@Catonic> I think after I make my next career move, I'm buying a motorcycle
15:13 <@Catonic> We got us a good ol' fashioned good buddy network in place.
15:16 <@Catonic> I left out the texas part of that statement
15:21 <@Dagmar> Pfft.  There's no need to put quotes around the word.
15:22 <@Dagmar> This administration will be hailed as a textbook example of cronyism's destructive effects for years to come.
15:22 <@Dagmar> Bush has set new fuckin' standards for that
15:22 <@Dagmar> He has literally redefined the genre
15:32 <@Catonic> teapot dome? tammany hall?
15:40 <@Dagmar> He has blown those out of the water
15:41 <@Dagmar> He put the fucking master of a DOG SHOW in charge of FEMA
15:41 <@Dagmar> AFTER a giant terrorist incident
15:41 <@Dagmar> The word "stupid" would actually need letters added to it to be large enough to adequately describe that.
15:42 <@dc0de> I think the word you're looking for is "puppet"
15:42 <@Dagmar> You know, typically, people with actual *skills* are supposed to be appointed to these posts.
15:43 <@dc0de> nah, that's just crazy talk.
15:43 <@Catonic> Not if Birmingham is any example.
15:44 <@sdodson> i went to moes, now i feel like it's time for a coma
15:44 <@sdodson> see you guys tomorrow!
15:44 <@dc0de> heh.
15:44 <@dc0de> l8r sdodson
15:45 <@dc0de> "Welcome to Moe's! Our food will kill you!"
15:47 <@Catonic> dc0de: why do you say that?
15:48 <@sdodson> what car isn't lasting 8 years?
15:48 <@sdodson> Is it manufactured by an American company?
15:48 <@dc0de> Catonic; what's healthy at moes?
15:49 <@dc0de> sdodson; I don't even want to get into the issue with our transportation methods in this country.
15:49 <@sdodson> Oh, I'm just saying that American cars are disposable.
15:50 <@sdodson> 10yrs or 100k and they're done
15:50 <@dc0de> sdodson; more like 5 yrs or 100,000 miles.
15:51 <@sdodson> People older and wiser than me say that this bush administration is just an extension of the puppet masters from the Reagan era.
15:51 <@dc0de> ILLUMINATI!!!
16:10 <@Catonic> dc0de: that's what I figured you meant.
16:15 <@dc0de> nah, I'm just tired of corporate excuses as to why our "world" is not better than it was from 20 years ago.
16:16 <@sdodson> I don't understand the notion that we're not better off than we were 20 years ago.
16:17 <@sdodson> If nothing else the use of hairspray has g one down significantly in the under 70 demographic
16:17 <@dc0de> well, sdodson 20 years ago, I could purchase a car that got 43 miles to the gallon...
16:17 <@dc0de> how come I can't do that today?
16:17 <@sdodson> buy a honda?
16:17 <@dc0de> what honda get's 43mpg?
16:17 <@dc0de> that is a gasoline only powered car?
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16:19 <@sdodson> I don't think you can buy a cat under 100hp these days.
16:19 <@dc0de> and why is that? not due to federal regulation...
16:20 <@sdodson> I don't know why.
16:20 <@dc0de> because manufacturers are slaves to lobbyists as well, "We don't need to conserve anything... build more fuel inefficient vehicles... it's ok."
16:20 <@sdodson> I imagine because no one wants to buy that.
16:21 <@dc0de> sorry, the Suburu 4dr sedan that got 43 mpg was a good car, and I'd buy one today if I could find it.
16:35 <@Catonic> 43 mpg and awd? wow.
16:35 <@dc0de> no, my mom had the 2wd model.
16:36 <@Catonic> oh, right, those old things... my gifted teacher drove one
16:36 <@dc0de> and they got excellent gas mileage, and the 5 speed let you move through traffic or tool on the highway without any problems
16:37 <@dc0de> it's the car I learned to drive in...
16:38 <@Catonic> I got to drive behind a stick Audi A4 the other day
16:38 <@Catonic> I got caught off guard by the lack of taillamps, then I realized what he was doing because I do the same in the rabbit.
16:42 <@Dagmar> Yeah, never let those bastards behind you know when you're decelerating
16:42 <@Dagmar> They'll take it as a sign of weakness and try to ram you.
16:42 <@dc0de> heh.
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16:45 <@Catonic> My rabbit has brand-new brakes from the front to the back... and a diesel engine...
16:45 <@dc0de> and what are you getting for mileage?
16:45 <@Catonic> it stop gud.
16:45 <@Catonic> dc0de: broken odometer.
16:45 <@dc0de> Catonic; fix it.
16:46 <@Catonic> I'm gonna sell the cars and buy something next week.
16:46 <@dc0de> Catonic; are you going to sell the rabbit?
16:47 <@Catonic> wonton has dibs
16:47 <@dc0de> dammit
16:47 <@Catonic> it needs EVERYTHING
16:47 <@dc0de> ok
16:47 <@Catonic> nother words, it's perfect for him
16:47 <@dc0de> dude, I'm looking for a commuter car that get's awesome mileage.
16:48 <@dc0de> that's it.
16:48 <@Catonic> this car is not that.
16:48 <@dc0de> my Toyota isn't cutting it... it only get's between 28 and 32mpg
16:48 <@Catonic> this car is impervious to weather... .if you wrap it in a sheet of plastic.
16:48 <@dc0de> ahh, ok
16:48 <@Catonic> 28 to 32 and you're bitching?
16:48 <@Catonic> My Caprice gets 15-17.
16:49 <@dc0de> Catonic; yes, I'm looking for nearer 40
16:49 <@Catonic> you want a 2000+ TDI
16:49 <@Catonic> 41 mpg.
16:49 <@dc0de> like an older beetle, with different jetted carbs.
16:50 <@Catonic> I would look for a car more, but I'm fed up at the moment, and I've been offered a car that is a very nice car, well maintained.
16:50 <@dc0de> what's that?
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16:52 <@Catonic> 2002 Honda Civic, leather, 90k...
16:52 <@Catonic> and the current owner, first owner, will not tolerate a single oil leak.
16:52 <@Catonic> put a $700 gasket on the car for this reason.
16:53 <@dc0de> so he doesn't own a harley.
16:53 <@Catonic> (I suspect that figure is labor based)
16:54 <@Catonic> christ, I listen to more daft punk than a gay man.
17:00 < remofor1> how does this make you feel?
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17:58 <@deoptima> anyone on?
17:59 <@dc0de> nope
17:59 <@deoptima> damn
17:59 <@tcstool> we're all in hiding
18:00 <@deoptima> hey does anyone have a RS232 to TTL converter or an old surfboard modem sitting around?
18:00 <@dc0de> hrm.
18:00 <@deoptima> i need one in a BAD way
18:00 <@dc0de> nope.
18:00  * deoptima would do almost anything for one
18:01 <@tcstool> What would you do with an old surfboard modem?
18:01 < mtown_nerd> Hold it like a woman
18:01 <@deoptima> you probably off safer not knowing
18:01 <@deoptima> yes i would and i would kiss it too
18:01 < mtown_nerd> oOooo
18:02 < mtown_nerd> Motorola always did have that certain..."come hither" sex appeal
18:02 < mtown_nerd> :P
18:02 < mtown_nerd> Or..somethin'
18:02 <@deoptima> yep =)
18:03 <@deoptima> ok then any modems? AMBIT Webstar anything?
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18:27 <@sdodson> What does he mean by TTL?
18:29 <@sdodson> coma is over now
18:40 <@dc0de> sdodson; that was a good coma
18:42 <+scort> hi
18:43 <@sdodson> Friday night, we'll be drinking manischewitz goin out to terrorize goyim
18:44 <@dc0de> I'm not so sure about the drinking... but terrorizing? count me in.
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18:46 <+scort> terrorize deez nutz
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19:21 <@someninjamaster> i hate gmail users
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19:22 <@dc0de> yeah, me too...
19:22  * dc0de goes to check his gmail
19:22 <@someninjamaster> especially evangelical ones hell bent at saveing you from other email services
19:22 <@dc0de> heh
19:23 <@someninjamaster> going so far as saying that you should transfer a buisness email services to it
19:24 <@dc0de> yeah, not so much... last I checked, gmail was still beta
19:25 <@someninjamaster> i want to move mine to internal
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20:01 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> gmorning.....
20:01 <@Catonic> where the fuck are you?
20:01 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> bed
20:02 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> awake too long past few days..... still timezone as you.. heh heh
20:02 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> still same
20:07 <@Catonic> oh... I know that feeling
20:07 <@Catonic> I do that during cons.
20:13 <@wontonjoe> im on a 24 hr day now
20:13 <@brimstone> aren't we all?
20:13 <@wontonjoe> yes, yes we are
20:13 <@wontonjoe> lik ei stay up 24 sleep 4
20:17 <@wontonjoe> isnt that normal?
20:18 <@wontonjoe> haha infoave.net
20:18 <@wontonjoe> we usually buy their customers and do their isp stuff for them
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21:02 <@Catonic> http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a1033/a1033_bm.gif
21:02 <@Catonic> Do mermaids taste like fish?
21:02 <@dc0de> dunno, haven't had one yet
21:03 <@Catonic> http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a957/a957_thumb.jpg <- i want this
21:04 <@Catonic> http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=588 <- I'm suprised Corydon76-dig doesn't own this.
21:05 <@Catonic> nice: abort born again christians
21:08 <@someninjamaster> im ammused at canada
21:08 <@someninjamaster> 14 for mf
21:08 <@someninjamaster> 18 for mm
21:08 <@someninjamaster> and 14 for ff
21:12 <@Catonic> and bam, they just played the race card on tv
21:12 <@someninjamaster> this is my favorite http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=676
21:12 <@Catonic> "we don't want to go back to the time of bull connor when blacks were openly disenfranchised"
21:14 <@Catonic> they are claiming that black votes weren't counted because the governor appointed someone to a seat on the county commission to fill a vacancy and a black candidate won the popular election
21:14 <@Catonic> the appointee in office? he's black....
21:15  * dc0de is away: off to bed
21:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: who says I don't?
21:24 <@Catonic> I would have figured that if you owned it, you'd have bragged about buying it.
21:24 <@Catonic> then again, that wouldn't be wise..
21:26 <@Catonic> homophobia being what it is.... and an under-18 cruising gay guy? I can hear the comment in my head already: "Get a rope."
21:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, that shirt is likely to get anybody killed
21:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Gay or not
21:39 <@Catonic> not in a high school...
21:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Besides, I'm bisexual, if you'd care to remember
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21:44 <@Catonic> I forget.
21:45 <@Catonic> btw, how are things going with the woman thing?
21:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Doing fine
21:46 <@Corydon76-dig> You?
21:46 <@Catonic> About the same.
21:48 <@Catonic> Doh!
21:48 <@Catonic> Breathing too much diesel exhaust could affect brain function.
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