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00:10 <@dasunt> It is rather sad that anti-nuclear advocates have to use Three Mile Island as an example.
00:11 <@ShadowHntr> yeah
00:12 <@dasunt> Y'know, even if you take the conservative number for how lethal radiation is (a linear regression), the amount of radiation released by 3MI would have resulted in one premature death.
00:13 <@dasunt> The 600+ coal power plants are estimated to kill over twenty thousand people annually.
00:14 <@dasunt> So, malfunctioning US nuclear plants are safer than a normally operating coal power plant.
00:14 <+scort> lol stfu dasunt
00:15 <@sdodson> based on what?
00:16 <@sdodson> the 20k figure
00:16 <@sdodson> and you assume nukes only kill people during abnormal operation?
00:17 <@dasunt> sdodson: Basically.
00:18 <@sdodson> what kills people about coal plants?
00:18  * scort inhales some coal dust
00:18 <+scort> mmmm delicious
00:18 <+scort> i want this everyday
00:18 <@dasunt> sdodson: Er, airborn pollutants and heavy metals in the waste.
00:19 <@sdodson> I wouldn't assume that nukes only affect lives when they melt down.
00:19 <@dasunt> Oh?
00:19 <@sdodson> I favor nukes, but I think that's pretty neive.
00:19 <@sdodson> nieve?
00:20 <@dasunt> naïve.
00:20 <@dasunt> sdodson: Outside of the plant grounds, radiation levels are undetectable.
00:20 <@dasunt> So what else could reduce life expectancy?
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00:22 <@sdodson> Flooding.
00:22 <@sdodson> I just made that up, fwiw.
00:22 <@dasunt> Heh.
00:22 <@sdodson> I don't htink it's that simple though.
00:23 <@dasunt> Oh?
00:23 <@sdodson> yup
00:23 <@dasunt> I'm trying to think of a mechanism -- increased percipitation due to water evaporating from the cooling towers dropping airborn pollutants on nearby towns?
00:24 <@sdodson> or raised water temperatures
00:24 <@dasunt> You're still talking a minor amount of deaths.
00:25 <@dasunt> Its like talking about the radiation exposure due to coal power.
00:27 <@dasunt> Or talking about the traffic fatalities due to the workers arriving to setup a wind farm.
00:27 <@sdodson> I'm not saying that nukes are worse or even as bad as coal plants with regard to decreasing life expectancy.  Just that I think it's terribly naive to assume that the only situations where nukes reduce life spans are due to leaks.
00:28 <@dasunt> You could argue that the workers have an increased risk.
00:28 <@dasunt> And there are risks during the fuel cycle.
00:28 <@sdodson> Dude, this is IRC, I could argue the My Little Pony defense.
00:28 <@dasunt> But that applies to all forms of power.
00:28 <@sdodson> But seriously, I'm sure there's something we're overlooking.
00:29 <@dasunt> We're probably overlooking a ton of things.
00:29 <@dasunt> But to any significant degree?  Doubtful.
00:29 <@dasunt> You'd probably have a stronger argument that PV cells are deadly.
00:32 <@sdodson> My life is shortened due to nuclear power which enables me to stay up until 2am each night.
00:32 <+scort> tva
00:32 <@sdodson> PV cells are uber toxic aren't they?
00:32 <+scort> and browns ferry
00:33 <@dasunt> sdodson: The byproducts in their manufacturing is.
00:33  * scort drinks some neuclear
00:35 <@dasunt> Nukular?
00:36 <+scort> me gwb
00:40 <@dasunt> Y'know, I think a lot of my distrust of PV cells is because of my access to books written in the late 70s and the 80s.
00:41 <@dasunt> The ones that promoted the hell out of it as being just around the corner.
00:43 <@dasunt> In totally unrelated news, I really wish that Minneapolis wasn't the redheaded stepchild of musical tours.
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01:01 <+scort> thx
01:01 <+scort> kthx
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01:47 <@wontonjoe> what up peeps
01:56 < juice_> nada
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07:34 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:35 <@sdodson> hi Dolemiter
07:35  * sdodson wonders which blades Dolemite likes
07:51 <@brimstone> all of them!
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08:17 <@Dolemite> Dolemite doesn't really like blades
08:29 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: Come to Outerz0ne or we will stop sleeping with your mom and she'll go back to sleeping with you.  http://www.outerz0ne.org | Nashville 2600 Hiking Excursion - Check Your Email (if you're on the mailing list, otherwise, piss off)
08:30 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: Come to Outerz0ne or we will stop sleeping with your mom and she'll go back to sleeping with you.  http://www.outerz0ne.org | Nashville 2600 Hiking Excursion / April 12 - Check Your Email (if you're on the mailing list, otherwise, piss off)
08:49 <@dc0de> morning Dolemite
08:49 <@Dolemite> howdy
08:51 <@dc0de> what's new in Dolemite's world?
08:51 <@Dolemite> Just trying to bring some level of organization to a world of chaos
08:52 <@Dolemite> I need to work on my presentation for OZ
08:52 <@dc0de> indeed... and everyone should listen.
08:52 <@dc0de> I wish you could bring some to my world...
08:52  * dc0de is working from home today, just to get a breather.
08:53 <@dc0de> I have to finish my preso as well.
09:02 <@Dolemite> ok, meeting time
09:11 <@baudburn> le sigh
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09:12 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:13 <@nachoguy> anyone had one of these new breakfast sammiches from Panera?
09:13 <@nachoguy> they're omgwtfbbq good
09:20 < ware> h0 sn4p.
09:55 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
09:55 <@Evilpig> shhh
09:55 <@Evilpig> time for sleep still
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10:02 <@dc0de> w00f!
10:07 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
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11:09 < critch> anyone remember the place we went for Mirage's birthday a few years back in Smyna
11:09 <@nachoguy> that's it, I'm done with any telephony technology that isn't *ip
11:10 <@nachoguy> voip or sip ++  pri's can cram it with walnuts
11:10 <@brimstone> sip?
11:10 <@brimstone> iax is bad?
11:10 <@nachoguy> voip and sip are great.  they work or they don't
11:10 <@nachoguy> actually, I've never used iax
11:10 <@nachoguy> bus since iax is voip, it's fine
11:11 <@nachoguy> I've got a couple of trunkgroups from the same provider into two different locations.  same hardware and software on our end.  one works, the other doesn't
11:11 <@brimstone> oh, so all voip is ok, but like, e&m T1s are out?
11:11 <@nachoguy> LEC has inspected it and found nothing
11:11 <@nachoguy> brimstone, indeed
11:12 <@brimstone> that's fair i suppose
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11:12 <@nachoguy> fuck it, next time I want voice service, we'll just get a ptp data line and get sip
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11:28 <@Evilpig> bah.  someone just called my cell from an unknown number and didn't leave a message
11:29 <@ladymerlin> guess it wasent that important
11:29 < critch> nachoguy: We had a test asterisk box at our colo, similar hardware, different Digium T1 interfaces though. One card could sync the T1, the other couldn't. But the one that couldn't, could sync with another telco. It is all odd.
11:32 <@nachoguy> well, at the location with the bad T1s, we've got two machines (to rule out hardware issues), but on the provider's end, the bad T1s terminate to different hardware than where our good T1s (in another location) do
11:33 <@nachoguy> it seems like a timing issue, but I can't seem to track down anything useful
11:34 < critch> here is an interesting idea. If you get no sync whatsoever, try a cross over cable and see if you get anything more useful.
11:35 < critch> There is a place up in Chicago where we have some machines that they tried to claim we needed a crossover cable from the smartjack to our equipment.
11:35 < critch> Fun part being, even when they provided the crossover cable it failed. They ended up crossing the wires back by the switch.
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11:45 <@nachoguy> critch, do you work in our office building?  =>
11:45 <@nachoguy> It's a closed building, so we can't bring in outside companies to extend Demarc, and the Telco isn't allowed to either.
11:46 <@nachoguy> The in house "electricians" that do it have flopped the pairs on over half of our circuits
11:46 <@nachoguy> the best part is that they bitch that the telco installed the circuit backwards
11:47 < critch> The one I was refering to above, is in the TDS Metrocom colo facility in Libertyville.
11:48 < critch> The smartjack was located in the rack with our equipment, and we used a ethernet cat 5 premade cable from Greybar. So I know my side of the wiring was proper.
11:56 <@Shadow404> meow
11:57 <@Shadow404> ok, so i hate having no insight to another department when an issue gets handed off, but i still ahve to be the interface between the customer and the external department
11:57 <@Shadow404> fucking bs
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12:01 <@nachoguy> Shadow404, that's what account reps do.  They barge in and get information that they're not getting so that they can relay the info to the customer
12:01 <@Shadow404> gah, i hate that shit too
12:01 <@Shadow404> gets old
12:03 <@Shadow404> i mean, i was actively troubleshooting nother customer connection, then the account team calls and asks for 15 diffrent custoemrs password info changes and contact updates, i told him to send an email, he got all huffy and asked, is it my customer your troubleshooting, i looked and said no, but this is priority, if you dont like that answer, you can talk to my manager
12:04 <@Shadow404> he promptly hung up after huffing, called my manager and the manager was like, yes sir, your request isnt priority
12:04 <@Shadow404> as soon as he hung up, man, we had a good laugh
12:05 <@oddball> thank you random drug company for giving me free food
12:05 <@Shadow404> solvay?
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12:07 < critch> Looks like I will get my carry permit next month.
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12:08 < critch> is that really oddball?
12:09 <@oddball> yep
12:10 < critch> Looks like I will be going to a carry class on the 11th
12:10 <@oddball> oh, and Wizard and I are going to go look at shiny things that go bang that we can't afford tomorrow.  Interested in joining us?
12:10 <@Shadow404> critch: you have to take a carry class?
12:10 <@oddball> really?  I keep thinking that I might want to do that
12:11 < critch> yeah, I might need to get something smaller than the .40 but bigger that the .22 for the class.
12:11 <@oddball> Shadow404: to get a carry permit in TN you do
12:11 < critch> Shadow404: it is being offered
12:11 <@Shadow404> heh
12:11 <@Shadow404> you just have to have a clean record here
12:11 < critch> oddball: I was told the class was going to be $110 at On Target, and if we get enough people, it will be all members of our riding club
12:11 <@oddball> I still love Wizard's story about taking with Walther P22 to the carry class
12:12 <@oddball> where's On Target?
12:12 <@oddball> and, unfortunately, I'm still too broke to drop $110 on something like that at the moment
12:13 < critch> Murfreesboro
12:13 <@oddball> Oh! that place!
12:13 < critch> It is the indoor range on Thonpson
12:13 <@oddball> that's the place I fired the Nagant indoors at!
12:13 < critch> ohh, and you had hearing afterwords?
12:14 <@oddball> I invest in good ear protection, so I mearly had a headache.
12:14 <@oddball> That was also Naienko's first experience at a gun range.  It was also almost her last.
12:15 < critch> Indoor or period. I thought she had been shooting before.
12:17 <@oddball> She hadn't been shooting before that trip with Rattle.  She later learned that there's a huge difference between indoor and outdoor ranges.
12:18 <@oddball> Although I will say that place is a hell of a lot better than Gun City
12:19 < critch> good. BTW, mind if I bring Pookie with me?
12:25 < ware> wee
12:25 <@ladymerlin> whee
12:25 < ware> whoa
12:25 <@oddball> Pookie?
12:27 <@Dolemite> His teddy bear
12:29 <@Shadow404> Blow up doll?
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12:31 < ware> anyone know how to spoof a firefox user agent in links
12:31 < ware> or other cli web browser
12:31 < ware> elinks lynx
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12:56 <@aestetix> Anyone worked with juniper netscreen?
12:56  * ladymerlin raises hand
12:56 <@aestetix> I'm trying to set up a VPN that's critical to a project.
12:56 <@Catonic> ladymerlin: did it make you an alcoholic?
12:56 <@aestetix> It connects, but the browser shows no sign that it's actually connected.
12:56 <@aestetix> I see the packets going through the connection monitor.
12:57 <@aestetix> Past that, no access to internal IPs.
12:57 <@ladymerlin> heh well thats a net screen for ya
12:57 <@aestetix> Right, how do I resolve it?
12:57 <@aestetix> Google is useless.
12:57 <@aestetix> So are all the docs that come with it.
12:57 <@ladymerlin> hang on ive had that problem
12:58 <@aestetix> ok
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13:01 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4nt4U7YGaI <- funny
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13:13 <@dc0de> wheeeee!
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13:16 <@Catonic> dc0de: do you have any experience with juniper's vpn client?
13:17 <@dc0de> Catonic: I'm talking to aestetix right now.
13:17 <@Catonic> that little trick.
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13:21 <@dc0de> brimstone: I need the rand-user-agent.bash script again.
13:22 <@brimstone> that's not needed in the updated tor script
13:22 <@dc0de> oh? where's the updated tor script?
13:22 <@dc0de> I don't have it.
13:23 <@brimstone> https://the.narro.ws/svn/brimstone/programming/bash/proxy/myminiutopia.bash
13:23 <@dc0de> grabbing now...
13:23 <@dc0de> thanx
13:23 <@brimstone> np
13:24 <@dc0de> looks nice... good job.
13:24 <@dc0de> aestetix: ping?
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13:26 <@dc0de> brimstone: what was the city we created in the US?
13:26 <@Dagmar> Oho!  The Vgcats guy has a second comic which will have intermittent updates
13:26 <@Dagmar> http://www.vgcats.com/ffxi/
13:27 <@Dagmar> You guys should be ashamed unless the point is to hax0r the game.  heh
13:27 <@dc0de> it is... we're going to the top of the ranks, without working...
13:28 <@dc0de> that's the point
13:28 <@Dagmar> Oh, just like "real" city leaders, then.
13:28 <@dc0de> EXACTLY!
13:31 <@Dagmar> Reminder, today is a holiday!
13:31 <@Dagmar> http://www.steakandbjday.com/
13:31 <@Dagmar> Not, um, really work safe
13:31 <@Dagmar> THe skit is slow but gets funnier as it goes on
13:33 < juice_> Dagmar, that day is actually feb 15 but then someone decided to have it on today also
13:33 < juice_> err day=holiday
13:33 <@Dagmar> DO I LOOK LIKE I CARE?
13:33 <@Dagmar> heh
13:33 <@Dagmar> The man who runs the website says it's TODAY.
13:33 <@Dagmar> ...and that's good enough for me.
13:33  * Dagmar folds his arms.
13:34 <@dc0de> amen.
13:34 < juice_> I don't care either but how is 2.22 coming :P
13:34 <@Dagmar> That's a highly classified trade secret
13:34 < juice_> lol
13:34 <@Dagmar> Progress is currently at 1%, being that I just got home and managed to reboot the computer.
13:34 <@Dagmar> Yay for not making a checklist on remote reinstalls.
13:34 < juice_> oh
13:34 <@dc0de> aciphex
13:35 <@Dagmar> Worst drug name, ever.
13:35 <@dc0de> pronounced "Ass-effects"
13:35 <@Dagmar> I have trouble not snickering when the commercial is on
13:35 < juice_> hmm
13:35 <@dc0de> I'm snickering now...
13:35 <@dc0de> just saw it for the first time.
13:35 <@Dagmar> ...and it doesn't help that they talk about "proton pumps", which frankly sounds like some shit out of a low-budget sci-fi show.
13:36 < juice_> why is it all girls think anytime you talk to any girl your trying to get some?
13:36 < critch> or scifi pron
13:37 <@Dagmar> juice: Because some women are paranoid psychotics.
13:37 <@Dagmar> ...and projecting.
13:37 < critch> juice_: or you aren't servicing her enough and she thinks you are trying to fullfill your needs elsewhere.
13:37 <@dc0de> Dagmar: or both.
13:38 < juice_> I was pretty tipsy last night and I sent some girl a txt message and one of her friends is like she still likes my brother blah blah and I am like I don't care I know hotter girls and saw hotter girls last night.
13:39 < juice_> no I met this girl from my friends girl friend well the 2 drilling me about this last night
13:41 < juice_> exactly why I don't have a girlfriend critch, I'd go crazy I think, all they do is nag 24/7
13:41 < juice_> I get tired of being around my friends with them
13:42 < juice_> i need to drag out a old crappy 15" monitor since my 17 blew up last night
13:42 <@dc0de> juice; ouch
13:43 < juice_> magic smoke was stinky
13:44 <@dc0de> hope you didn't breath it.
13:44 < juice_> i did
13:44 <@dc0de> not good, there's lots of toxins inside burning electronics parts.
13:44 < critch> juice_: I think that is why I enjoy flirting with the Starbucks chicks. A couple of them are interesting enough I would take them home, but a couple of them I am afraid might not leave.
13:44 <@Evilpig> that is what makes it tasty
13:44 < juice_> lol
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13:45 < juice_> kick em out the front door
13:45 <@Shadow404> critch: heh, order a grande el' loco
13:45 <@Dagmar> How else do you expect to get a stable of bitches?
13:45 < juice_> lol
13:45 < critch> Shadow404: I gave up ordering, Savanah, Sarah, and Ashley all like to just surprise me with something
13:46 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: padlocks on the door.  a line of cocaine from the front door to their new "room"
13:46 <@Evilpig> before too long you have a stable
13:46 < juice_> :P
13:46 <@Dagmar> I figure, get one home and she stays... if when you bring the next one over she doesn't leave... PARTY TIME!
13:46 < critch> Odd, we where discussing that last night at Starbucks.
13:47 < critch> Shadow404: I also figured out, letting the chicks there surprise you with a drink means you don't pay.
13:47 < critch> I have been getting 1-2 free drinks a day now for almost a week.
13:47 <@Shadow404> critch: good point
13:48 <@Shadow404> Evilpig: does that explain your old roommate?
13:48 < juice_> critch, if your getting free drinks for over a week, tell me you at least have her # :P
13:48 <@Evilpig> has anyone ever used one of these?  http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=253867
13:48 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: I didn't lock her in nor did I supply her.  she came and left self-drugged
13:49 < critch> juice_: I have had Sarah's number for a while. Not really interested in Ashley for anything but the sport of playing with her. Working on Savanah, but she is a bit young. Started messing with Jamie last night.
13:49 < juice_> pimp
13:49 < critch> juice_: Then there are the chicks, lesbian and not, at the place we hang out at on Wednesdays too.
13:50 < juice_> like a kid I know I was like how you been he was like oh I have a wife and 2 girl friends so not too fun and then was well soon to be ex-wife
13:50 < critch> If Pookie doesn't close the deal with Emily, I might play some with her.
13:50 < juice_> messing with girl's minds is always fun
13:51 < critch> juice_: I have no wife, and currently without a girlfriend. So I am just playing around.
13:51 < critch> I don't even have an ex-wife to worry about.
13:51 < juice_> same here
13:52 < juice_> I just go out and talk to as many hott girls as I can :)
14:07 <@SkyDog_> and get shot down. :) HAHAHA!
14:07 <+scort> who wants to fix my computer?
14:07 <@SkyDog_> NO it!
14:07 <@SkyDog_> not it!
14:08 <@Dagmar> Clearly, you *don't* want help from the man who can't type six characters without fucking it up.
14:09 <+scort> well it's just a lil network issue
14:09 <+scort> nothing is being routed outside...
14:09 <@Dagmar> So pastebin the routing table of the gateway router
14:09 <@Dagmar> ...and tell us what OS it is
14:10 <+scort> i alwasy get banned for pasting shit
14:10 <@Dagmar> PASTEBIN.CA
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14:13 < juice_> SkyDog_, I don't get shot down :P
14:13 <+scort> Linux DD-WRT 2.4.35 #2706 Thu Nov 22 02:42:59 CET 2007 mips unknown
14:13 <@SkyDog_> juice. I know, I know... You're the man... :)
14:14 < juice_> haha
14:14 <+scort> http://pastebin.ca/942795
14:14 < buubot> scort: The paste 942795 has been copied to http://erxz.com/pb/7702
14:14 <+scort> jee thanks buubot
14:17 < juice_> SkyDog_, the reason I say I don't get shot down is I usually let the girls make the moves, so ... I can do the shooting down lol
14:18 <@SkyDog_> Heh. :) just messing with you.
14:18 < juice_> However of late I been more talkative after have some drinks
14:19 <+scort> Dagmar, it's the same problem it's had in the past, where the dns traffic isn't going through for some reason
14:19 < juice_> Ask Droops about the Beer Cellar 2 years ago
14:19 < juice_> I thought we were going to get in a fight there from me flirting with some girl
14:20 <@Dagmar> scort: Well, you failed to provide useful debugging info the last time
14:20 <@SkyDog_> I heard that story.
14:20 < juice_> lol
14:20 <@Dagmar> You almost got in a fight?
14:20 <+scort> what commands should i do
14:20 <+scort> -a ?
14:20 <@Dagmar> In the Beer Cellar?
14:20 < juice_> yeah
14:20 <@Dagmar> Was there a vowel in the name of the day it was?
14:21 < juice_> heh
14:24 <+scort> Dagmar, check the post again
14:27 <@Dagmar> Pfft.  Complain to the DD-WRT devs
14:27 <+scort> it's not dd-wrt though
14:28 <+scort> it's my fbsd box
14:28 <+scort> should i blame them too?
14:28 <@Evilpig> blame skytubby he likes fbsd
14:30 < critch> SkyDog_: what did it cost for you guys to take the CC class?
14:33 <@SkyDog_> I dunno. Like $75 or something.
14:33 <@SkyDog_> Not too much.
14:33 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Novell weenie. :P
14:33 < critch> okay, so the $110 they want to charge us isn't too bad
14:34 <@Dolemite> For anybody in Nashville...   awesome concert coming up at Vanderbilt tonight...
14:34 <@Dolemite> www.vanderbilt.edu/greatperformances
14:34 <@SkyDog_> Nah. it can be done cheaper, but you lose the quality of the shooting range and such
14:34 <@oddball> critch: according to guns & leather's website, they charge $60
14:34 < critch> yeah, for an indoor range, it must be something safe and not gun city
14:35 <@Dolemite> It's a tribute to space by the Kronos Quartet
14:35 <@Dagmar> Dmanit
14:35 <@Dagmar> They're awesome
14:36 <@Dolemite> discount for Vanderbilt students, faculty and staff...
14:36 <@SkyDog_> Nice.
14:37 <@SkyDog_> critch: Guns and Leather was pretty damn nice.
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14:37 <@Dolemite> Damn, look what else we missed...
14:37 < scoot> oh weird
14:37 <@Dolemite> Kronos Quartet presents Sun Rings, Join founding Artistic Director David Harrington in "What's David Listening to?" an evening with Harrington as he spins eloquent with some of his all- time favorite pieces with everything from George Crumb to Bach to ACDC and more... Wednesday, March 12 6-8pm At The Commons Living Room, 230 Appleton Place
14:37 <@Dolemite> That was right next door to us
14:37 < scoot> it worked with a reboot of the router
14:38 < scoot> damnit i lost my ip!
14:38 < juice_> Stephen Lynch is performing here tonight
14:38 <@Dagmar> Check for a better firmware or something
14:38 <@Dagmar> Bongo used to have a LInksys AP that suffered from that problem on a chronic level
14:39 < scoot> Dagmar: my cabled modem died last night
14:39 <@SkyDog_> death by pron.
14:39 <@SkyDog_> We've seen it happen a million times.
14:39 < scoot> and i forgot the reboot the router after it gained sync (it didn't do that until after i fell asleep last night)
14:39 <@SkyDog_> go easy on them bits man!
14:39 < juice_> i read that wrong lol I thought you said tits
14:40 <@SkyDog_> Those too.
14:45 <@Evilpig> lynch is hilarious
14:45 < juice_> yeah I'm not going I just heard about it today
14:46 <@dc0de> SkyDog_: heh... death by pr0n
14:48 <@aestetix> This is gonna be a fun weekend.
14:48 <@aestetix> I'm gonna pick up my leprechaun costume tonight.
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14:59 <@aestetix> ok which is tackier
14:59 <@aestetix> taking a bunch of singles and fives and taping them to a little tree
14:59 <@aestetix> or pinning them on a clothesline?
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15:37 < desertc> http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39366057,00.htm
15:39 < desertc> BBC iPlayer restrictions defeated on same day of fix, in order to satisfy curious Linux user.
15:45 <@Evilpig> I am alone in thinking that skydog needs this for his DS?  http://www.meritline.com/kiq-pink-skin-nds-lite-036.html
15:46 <@SkyDog_> As long as you are getting one for you, get one for me too.
15:48 <@Dolemite> Well it looks like I will miss yet another meeting
15:49 <@Dolemite> Of course, I could have made last weeks if not for the snow, and we mainly cancelled because of Dagmar crying like a little pussy.
15:49 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : You gonna go hiking with us on April 12?
15:49 <@Evilpig> nope
15:49 <@Dolemite> Dude, I mentioned the magical word...   food
15:49 <@SkyDog_> That sucks. titty baby.
15:50 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Suck my hairy man teetz!
15:50 <@Dolemite> I can't help it if SP1 throws out her back trying to give me a reach around
15:50 <@Dolemite> She did it after midnight and well, we all know what happens after midnight at my house.
15:50  * Dolemite rubs belly
15:51 <@Dolemite> This all turns to dick
15:51 <@baudburn> wth
15:51 <@Evilpig> how big is that dick dolemite?  about 5'10" calls himself a noc manager?
15:51 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : 6'0", thank you.  And no, I'm a Data Center Manager, not just the NOC.
15:52 <@Evilpig> help desk...  tsk tsk
15:52 <@SkyDog_> you threw your wife's back out? take it easy on her man!
15:52 <@Dolemite> Anywho, SP1's back and neck is popped out again until she can see the bone cracker, so I have to wrangle 2.0.
15:52 <@Dolemite> I could always bring him to the meeting...
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15:53 <@baudburn> her neck.. her back..
15:53 <@Dolemite> I'm sure he'd love to sit in ware's lap and squeeze out a nice big pooper
15:53 <@Evilpig> just attach one of those kid leashes on him and bring him
15:53  * baudburn refuses to finish that song quote
15:53 <@Dolemite> We've got a kid leash in the shape of a monkey.  He loves it.  We loves it.
15:54 <@Dolemite> It gives him the freedom to move around more than just having to hold Mommy or Daddy's hand
15:54 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSxXVRf36z4
15:55 <@Dolemite> Is there a point to this video?
15:55 <@Dolemite> what's wrong with these guys?  They can't handle a little baby poop?
15:56 <@Dolemite> That's some Indian food in the diaper, not poop
15:56 <@Evilpig> as a mustache?
15:56 <@Evilpig> it's poop
15:56 <@Dolemite> Then they are even more stupid than ever imagined
15:57 <@Dolemite> I'm really sad that I won't be able to come back to watch that Kronos Quartet concert
15:57 <@Dolemite> that would be the bombizzle
15:57 <@Dolemite> We'll see how 2.0 is tonight.  Maybe we can get him settled down early enough for me to come back and see the concert
15:57 <@Dolemite> I can only hope
15:58 <@Dolemite> anywho, time to go pick him up
15:58 <@Dolemite> later, youngsters
15:58 <@SkyDog_> Lates.
15:58 <@SkyDog_> Take care of momma.
16:07 <@Evilpig> I want to go home.  frustrated and don't wanna be here
16:14 <@I-MOD> ditto
16:15 <@Evilpig> I really just want to go get some sushi.  then go home and kill some people in wow.
16:16 <@Evilpig> that sounds like a good idea actually
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16:40 <@Shadow404> same here -minus the sushi replaced with pizza, and swap wow for gta san andreas
16:40 <@Shadow404> got addicted to the single player game after playing the multiplayer mod
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16:49 <@I-MOD> anchovie pizza?
16:49 <@dc0de> mmm, anchovies
16:50 <@I-MOD> gotta get that fish in there somehow
16:50  * scort drinks some anchovie oil
16:50 <+scort> mmmmmmm
16:50 <@I-MOD> scort, i hope you're ready for that to come out one end or another explosively
16:51  * scort eats the anchovies in front of I-MOD
16:51 <+scort> mmmm
16:53 <@Evilpig> Shadow404: a few nights ago I was running around in wow on my rogue with three other rogues.  when I realized we were being complete dicks....  it was fantastic.  
16:53 <+scort> wait, i dont like anchovies
16:53 <@brimstone> comcastic!
16:53 <+scort> and i drank too much oil
16:53 <+scort> brb
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17:09  * scort drinks his green dragon
17:09 <+scort> cheers!
17:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, this is fun.  Jeff's Windows machine can't see the NETWORK (as in JetDirect) printer, but his Linux machine prints to it just fine.
17:14 <+scort> reboot and wait 30 mins
17:14 <@Corydon76-dig> I think he's about to toss the laptop out the window
17:14 <+scort> LOL
17:19 <+scort> with shit like smb sharing
17:22 <@I-MOD> linux > windows
17:22 <@brimstone> loaf of bread > windows
17:22 <@I-MOD> touche
17:22 <+scort> coil > windows
17:23  * scort waits for nod of approval
17:23 <+scort> anyone?
17:23 < MxZBot-> anyone is interested!'
17:24  * brimstone nods
17:24 <+scort> yay!
17:25 <@dc0de> windows >= coil
17:25 <@Shadow404> lawl
17:25 <+scort> damnit
17:26 <@Shadow404> illegal operation!
17:26 <+scort> no fiar
17:26  * Shadow404 throws bsod at coil
17:26  * scort dodges with osx
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17:51 <@sdodson> man SkyDog_ sure likes to make videos of himself
17:53 <+scort> where sdodson
17:53 <+scort> i wanna pee
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17:57 <@ladymerlin> whee
17:58 <@sdodson> 18:29 <@ware> wee
17:59 <@SkyDog_> wii.
17:59 <@Shadow404> meow
17:59 <+scort> lawl.
18:00 <+scort> werd
18:00 <@sdodson> 54.53% [plugins] claiming Firefox 3.0b3+ compatibility
18:00 <+scort> bullshit
18:00 <+scort> hhahaah
18:07 <@SkyDog_> Ok, where is everyone else for the 2600 meeting?!?
18:08 <@ladymerlin> im here
18:08 <@ladymerlin> :)
18:08 <@SkyDog_> Um, you drove me over here.
18:12 <@ladymerlin> well, im still here
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18:19 <@ladymerlin> what was that about
18:19 <@Mirage_> he's looking for notlarry..and he diesn't remember how to identify
18:19 <@ladymerlin> lol
18:21 <@Evilpig> notlarry is playing wow right now
18:22 <@Evilpig> he has a kara raid at 7 he told me
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18:31 <@ladymerlin> heya geoffscoffee
18:31 < geoffscoffee> hey, how's the meeting
18:31 <@ladymerlin> prety good
18:31 < geoffscoffee> just wanted to say I want to be there, but Wife and son are illl
18:31 <@ladymerlin> aww
18:31 <@ladymerlin> well we miss you!
18:32 < geoffscoffee> nice of you to say
18:32 < geoffscoffee> disrupt ppls chain of thought for me, OK.
18:32 <@ladymerlin> hehe
18:34 <@SkyDog_> Heya geoffscoffee!
18:34 < geoffscoffee> hey SD
18:34 <@ladymerlin> how is teh little one doing lately
18:35 < geoffscoffee> he's REALLY 2 years old
18:35 <@SkyDog_> hehe!
18:35 <@ladymerlin> hehe
18:35 < geoffscoffee> and getting fast enough to get aweay from me for a few steps
18:35 < geoffscoffee> how's you, SD?
18:35 <@ladymerlin> lol
18:36 <@SkyDog_> NOt too bad. Juggling HackerConsortium, Outerz0ne and PN.
18:36 <@SkyDog_> And working at Vanderbilt.
18:36 < geoffscoffee> really?? With DM
18:36 < geoffscoffee> ?
18:36 < geoffscoffee> how's that working for you?
18:37 <@SkyDog_> Lots of work.
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18:39 < geoffscoffee> keeps you out of trouble
18:39 <@ShadowHntr> anyone in nashville interested in a broadcom wifi pci express minicard?
18:40 <@ShadowHntr> i'm replacing mine with an Intel wireless
18:41 < geoffscoffee> I"m watching Achmed the Dead Terrorist
18:41 <@ladymerlin> me and sky have tickets to go see him live next month
18:41 <@ladymerlin> err in may
18:41 <@ShadowHntr> got two job interviews coming up this monday :D
18:41 <+scort> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
18:42 <+scort> all my pc parts should be here on the 18th :)
18:42 <@ShadowHntr> awesome
18:42 <+scort> ShadowHntr,
18:42 <+scort> power supply already upgraded
18:42 <@ShadowHntr> awesome
18:42 <+scort> i can't wait to raid these 500gb
18:42 <+scort> i need to 1+0
18:42 <@ShadowHntr> what do you think about those earthwatts psus
18:42  * scort buys more hd's
18:42 <@ShadowHntr> i like em cause they're efficient and quiet :)
18:42 <+scort> bad ass design
18:43 <+scort> i can hear the other fans
18:43 <+scort> but not the psu
18:43 <@ShadowHntr> :]
18:43 <+scort> $49.99 ftw
18:43 <+scort> centos sux though :P
18:45 <@ShadowHntr> lol
18:45 <@ShadowHntr> i use opensuse
18:45 <+scort> when i get these sata II drives installed
18:45 <+scort> ill try ubuntu again
18:45 <@ShadowHntr> different strokes
18:45 <@ShadowHntr> :)
18:45 <+scort> see if i can get compiz workin
18:45 <@ShadowHntr> i got compiz working on my opensuse
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> can't figure out how to get back the title bar on my apps
18:46 <+scort> ???
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> dunno
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> brb
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18:47 <@ShadowHntr> that's better :)
18:47 < geoffscoffee> gotta jet, have fun
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18:48 <+scort> and i switched out my old ps with my server
18:48 <+scort> it runs a lot better on a 330w ps then a 220w one :P
18:50 <@ShadowHntr> hehehe
18:50 <@ShadowHntr> i'm sure it does
18:53 <+scort> it's still loud, i can't wait till i switch out all the hardware
18:53 <+scort> then i can still it or somethign
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19:15 < ware> eh SkyDog_
19:15 < ware> you around
19:15 <@ladymerlin> where are you??
19:15 <+scort> sell*
19:16 < ware> at my apt in lebanon
19:16 < ware> just had someone else complain that someone owes them $30
19:16 < ware> from pn, just thought id share
19:16 <@SkyDog_> Yeah...
19:16 < ware> because they said they havent seen the money, been told different, etc etc
19:16 <@SkyDog_> Sigh.
19:16 <@ladymerlin> why didnt you come tonight?
19:16 <@SkyDog_> SOMEONE needs to take care of that problem.
19:16 < ware> just a heads up
19:17 < ware> im sick
19:17 <@SkyDog_> what?
19:17 <@SkyDog_> sick?
19:17 < ware> drove to cookeville and stuff
19:17 <@ShadowHntr> thanks for reminding me.
19:17 < ware> allergies and stuf
19:17 < ware> ShadowHntr: dude if you cant fucking pay people back then tell them
19:17 <@SkyDog_> your ass ic coming tomorrow, right?
19:17 < ware> dont be a bum and a liar and say otherwise
19:17 <@ShadowHntr> ware: i can, just got caught up in the whirlwind.
19:17 < ware> makes you look like a shithead
19:17 < ware> everyone does but thats life
19:19 < ware> dont mean to sound like a prick, i dont feel good
19:19 <@SkyDog_> Call a spade a spade man.
19:19 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: You have alot of ground to make up.
19:19 < ware> ShadowHntr: dude
19:19 < ware> dont txt tim that you are gonna pay him
19:19 < ware> he is my roommate
19:20 < ware> and he is sitting here bitching at you
19:20 < ware> that you dont even owe him money
19:20 < ware> get your god damned books right
19:20 <@ShadowHntr> tell him i apologize.
19:20 < ware> and quit trying to buy friends
19:20 < ware> no
19:20 < ware> get the fuck out dude
19:20 < ware> youre pissin me off
19:21 <@SkyDog_> ware carries more weight. ShadowHntr, you need to make amends, and do so quickly.
19:21 < ware> buy friends with money you owe them none the less
19:21 <@SkyDog_> no more excuses.
19:23 <+scort> drama llama
19:25 < ware> ~
19:25 < MxZBot-> ware: I don't know, could you explain it?
19:25 < ware> anyways
19:25 <@SkyDog_> ware, you coming tomorrow?
19:26 < ware> welli need to call my friends abotu camping
19:26 < ware> i could either way in the morning
19:26 < ware> what time?
19:28 <@ladymerlin> 10
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19:44 <@ladymerlin> jkl;'
19:44 <@ladymerlin> l;'
19:44 <@ladymerlin> ;l'
19:44 <@ladymerlin> thanks bush
19:44 <@dc0de> heh.
19:44 <@sdodson> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
19:44 <@dc0de> left your screen unlocked?
19:45 <@Shadow404> dc0de: does anyone still go to the 404 meetings?
19:45 <@dc0de> dunno, I'm not there.
19:45 <@Shadow404> havent been in over a year
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19:49 <@ladymerlin> na he reached over me
19:50 <@dc0de> nice... smak him... loudly.
19:50 <@ladymerlin> i did
19:50 <@dc0de> heh... nice.
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19:54 <@seeblind> evening everybody
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19:57 <@dc0de> ahh, that's better.
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20:51 <@sdodson> http://www.softwareinreview.com/bsd/freebsd_7.0_review.html omg i hate Jem Matzan so much
21:05 <@unixfa1> but, she's truly truly amazing!
21:05 <@unixfa1> oh, wait, that's Gem
21:05 < ware> Evilpig: ping
21:06 <@unixfa1> oh, wait, it is jem
21:06 <@unixfa1> truly outrageous
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21:06  * unixfag doesn't know that unixfa1 guy who totally bombed on that joke
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21:09 < ware> lol
21:10 < mtown_nerd> lol  :-*   It's okay... I still <3 him, even though he fails at the Jem and the Holograms references.
21:10 <@unixfag> HAHA, and it's stuck in your head now!
21:12 < mtown_nerd> It is :(
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21:31 <@Shadow404> damn, were getting hit hard by this storm
21:31 <@Shadow404> shadowcam.homeftp.net
21:33 <@Shadow404> there comes teh hail
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21:35 < Thrynn> which part of atl shadow?
21:36 < Thrynn> want to know if it's coming this way and I'm too lazy to check weather.com
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21:42 < Thrynn> n/m I see it on tv..
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21:55 <@dasunt> Damn, I need a windows box to test a vbscript out on.
21:55 <@dasunt> Meh.
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22:12 <@Evilpig> ware: pong
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22:16 < ware> Evilpig: ftp down?
22:26 <+scort> tornado in atl?
22:29 < Thrynn> yep. sounds like A LOT of damage
22:29 <+scort> TARNADOS!!!!
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22:41 <@sdodson> unixfag: confused, what do you mean?
22:43 <@unixfag> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jem_%28TV_series%29
22:45 <@Mirage> I think it was on before 'Dungeons and Dragons' and 'Thundar the Barbarian'
22:46 <@Mirage> That was basically the girls version of Kidd Video, if I remember correctly
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22:52 <@Mirage> Wow, I didn't realise Thundarr was on from 80-82..I thought it was later than that.
22:53 <@Mirage> At least it looks like I remembered D&D and Kidd Video being on at the same time as Jem
23:00 < ware> Evilpig: you still around?
23:01 <@brimstone> the hell happened in atlanta!?
23:02 <@brimstone> the news shows chucks of buildings missing
23:02 < ware> tornado or something
23:02 <@aestetix> God, I feel like shit.
23:05 <@sdodson> http://community.citrix.com/display/~rogerkl/2008/03/12/Memory+Lapse I thought memory was generally the limit in virtualization deployments, citrix dude sure seems to be downplaying it.
23:08 <@sdodson> hah, it's aestetix
23:08 <@unixfag> what i've experienced is that disk IO is the big limit with virtualization. memory use is often very similar, with repetition between instances that can be consolidated by systems like ESX...
23:09 <@sdodson> Right, but not with citrix which is precisely what the guy was downplaying, but apparently their site went bust.
23:09 <@sdodson> citrix/xen has no ability to overcommit
23:09 <@sdodson> unixfag: what sort of environment are you using?
23:10 <@sdodson> are you using shared storage?
23:10 <@unixfag> we are using vmware server for production use, but have done some testing with ESX 3 and 3.5
23:10 <@unixfag> no
23:10 <@unixfag> it's all on board... buying an iSCSI SAN is next for us
23:10 <@brimstone> what were you using before to hold disk images? nfs?
23:11 <@unixfag> it's all local storage now
23:11 <@sdodson> I'm moving forward with IBM Blade Center with fiber channel. For the production stuff I'm providing N+1. For test stuff I'm not.
23:11 <@sdodson> Was it fast local storage?
23:11 <@unixfag> Ultra 320
23:11 <@unixfag> RAID 1
23:12 <@sdodson> should be decently fast
23:12 <@sdodson> This stuff is all very markety at this point.
23:13 <@sdodson> Netapp wants you to use NFS, EMC wants you to use fiber channel, cheaper guys want you to go iSCSI.
23:15 <@sdodson> RAM is definitely my limiting factor.
23:15 <@unixfag> have you seen LeftHand's stuff?
23:17 <@Mirage> Pretty good stuff.. http://www.lefthandbrewing.com/
23:17 <@unixfag> they built a virtual iSCSI san system that vmware has started to push
23:18 <@unixfag> lol, mmm... head....
23:19 <@sdodson> The IT guys are harsh on iSCSI and FC isn't that much more expensive so I think I'm going to go that route.
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23:35 <@Mirage> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20080315
23:47 <@sdodson> who's that?
23:53 <@unixfag> snake?
23:54 < mtown_nerd> yep.  Solid Snake from MGS
23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Who's the bottom?
23:55 <@unixfag> mu
23:56 <@unixfag> link
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