--- Log opened Thu Mar 13 00:00:08 2008 00:03 < mtown_nerd> I feel so dirty. These Pillsbury triple chocolate indulgence cookies are so yums. And I have om nom nom nom'd them. :( 00:43 <+coil> .......... 00:43 -!- wontonjoe [n=sh4wn@host-63-238-55-157.apid.com] has joined #se2600 00:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o wontonjoe] by ChanServ 00:43 <@ShadowHntr> lol mtown_nerd 00:43 <@ShadowHntr> mtown = memphis? 00:44 <+coil> very good ShadowHntr 00:44 <+coil> you want a coookiieie? 00:44 <@ShadowHntr> lol 00:44 <@ShadowHntr> i need to get some cookie dough next time i'm at the store 00:45 <@ShadowHntr> bake some cookies =) 00:45 <+coil> put some weed on them 00:45 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL 00:48 < mtown_nerd> G'night, all. 00:48 <+coil> awww nooo mtown_nerd 01:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o buu] by ChanServ 02:25 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:54 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-69-254-12-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:57 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-69-254-12-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:50 -!- Gregabyte_ [n=wintermu@216.207.245.1] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:17 <+coil> just bought some shit 04:29 -!- Gregabyte_ [n=wintermu@216.207.245.1] has joined #se2600 06:58 <@ladymerlin> whee 07:01 <@dc0de> indeed. 07:06 * dc0de is off to work.... 07:06 <@dc0de> later all.. 07:06 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:40 -!- MudFlap [n=asdf@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 07:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 07:41 -!- Gregabyte_ [n=wintermu@216.207.245.1] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:48 <@someninjamaster> http://technology.newscientist.com/article/dn13449-nervetapping-neckband-allows-telepathic-chat.html 07:49 <@someninjamaster> this is awesome 08:22 < ware> h0 sn4p 08:22 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 08:26 -!- brimstone changed the topic of #se2600 to: Come to Outerz0ne or we will hax0r your goats. http://www.outerz0ne.org -=- vasectl(2) will prevent fork(2) from producing a child process 08:27 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 08:39 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:46 <@Dolemite> Looks like I made a good choice in the new HTPC hardware I bought. It's pretty, fast, *and* quiet. Normally you can only pick two. ;) 08:47 <@Dolemite> http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv.php 08:47 <@Dolemite> I found that after I ordered it, but it's the exact same thing I have, except without a capture card since I use the HDHomeRun 08:48 < ware> anyone used andLinux? 08:52 <@tzanger> ware: my mom is using it 08:52 <@tzanger> (no joke) 08:54 < ware> good / bad / useful? 08:55 < ware> i really would just like a bash cli in windows and a few network tools in linux 08:56 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 08:57 <@Dolemite> ware : Then do that 08:58 <@Dolemite> It's called 'cygwin' 09:01 < ware> i didnt like cygwin 09:02 < ware> xkcd ftw 09:09 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has joined #se2600 09:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 09:15 < ware> what webcomics do you guys regularly read? 09:15 <@Dolemite> FTW! 09:15 <@Dolemite> http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/12/unusual-home-invasio.html 09:15 <@Dolemite> Every morning I check Ctrl-Alt-Del, Penny Arcade, and xkcd 09:15 <@brimstone> ware: applegeeks, xkcd, qc 09:15 < ware> i posted that yesterday i thought 09:15 <@someninjaserver> i though xkcd was mwf 09:16 <@Dolemite> It may be, but I just check them all every day 09:16 <@someninjaserver> ah 09:16 <@Dolemite> the others aren't daily, either 09:17 <@dc0de> I get dilbert delivered to my inbox 09:17 <@dc0de> I read xkcd about once every two weeks. 09:18 <@someninjaserver> i guess i have 10 webcomics i read daily 09:19 < ware> what are they? 09:19 <@someninjaserver> off the top of my head 09:19 <@someninjaserver> marilith, questonable content, twisted kajiu theater, metatokyo, sore thumbs, godmode, 09:19 <@someninjaserver> krakow 09:20 <@someninjaserver> xkcd, sinfest, 09:20 <@someninjaserver> nsfw-comix 09:21 < ware> cool thnx 09:21 < ware> need to find more ways to waste time @ work 09:23 <@someninjaserver> haha http://nsfw-comix.com/nsfw.htm 09:26 < ware> i guess its a stupid question, is it sfw? 09:26 <@someninjaserver> depends on where you work 09:26 <@SkyDog_> Um, no. 09:26 <@SkyDog_> :) 09:26 <@MudFlap> Good point. 09:26 <@someninjaserver> if you work at a whore house or a strip club its proably cool 09:26 <@SkyDog_> The first three frames made me close the window. 09:26 < ware> thnx 09:26 < ware> lol 09:26 <@someninjaserver> haha 09:27 <@someninjaserver> aww 09:27 <@someninjaserver> its not untill the last frame that it get funny 09:34 <@tzanger> that was stupid 09:39 < ware> http://www.knickerpicker.com/dressing-room.asp someone tell me if thats sfw 09:39 < ware> lol 09:39 <@Dolemite> It is if you work at a clothing store 09:43 <@MudFlap> http://sausagefest.com/ is totally sfw. 09:44 <@SkyDog_> That was the NLUG meeting the other night. :) 09:44 <@Dolemite> unless you work at PETA 09:44 <@tzanger> knickerpicker hahaha 09:45 <@Dolemite> http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic 09:45 <@Dolemite> That be ware in court one day. 09:49 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:49 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 09:51 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:51 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 09:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 09:52 < ware> hai! 09:56 -!- SkyDog_ [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:56 -!- SkyDog_ [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 09:56 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:57 < ware> moarnignn 10:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SkyDog_] by ChanServ 10:02 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:02 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 10:03 < ware> whos funkin with the bluefunk 10:03 <@oddball> I'm sorry, your network connection has been disconnected and the phones are distorted all to hell because the folks that maintain our T1s have their heads up their asses 10:07 <@SkyDog_> ware: Dunno. 10:07 <@SkyDog_> I never lost connectivity. 10:07 < ware> 09:56 «« SkyDog_« [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] quits (Remote closed the connection) 10:07 < ware> 09:56 »» SkyDog_» [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] joins #se2600 10:07 <@SkyDog_> I never lost connectivity with my server. 10:07 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:08 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 10:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ladymerlin] by ChanServ 10:16 <@oddball> it's fun when a 15 minute test turns into a multi-hour outage! 10:16 <@Dolemite> Why did I know there would be a picture of a trailer in this? 10:16 <@Dolemite> http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/woman.in.bathroom.ap/index.html 10:17 < ware> heard about that on the Buzz this morning 10:18 <@SkyDog_> Ick. 10:19 < ware> people iz crazay 10:19 <@oddball> yeah.... my question is why did the boyfriend keep bringing her food in the bathroom? 10:19 < ware> not like he was getting laid 10:20 < ware> or paid 10:20 < ware> unless she was giving some amazing head.. 10:20 <@oddball> no food for 2 years solves the situation one way or another 10:20 < ware> she'll get over that phobia pretty quick i think 10:20 <@Dolemite> s/years/days/ 10:20 <@Dolemite> ok, meeting time 10:21 <@nachoguy> http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=117754&in_page_id=34 10:24 <@oddball> and I'm still trying to figure out why they're looking at hitting the boyfriend with criminal charges. 10:25 < ware> neglect of some kind 10:25 < ware> abuse 10:26 <@Dagmar> Animal cruelty 10:26 < ware> hahaha 10:26 <@Dagmar> ...or possibly animal neglect. 10:26 < ware> did she not shower? 10:26 <@Dagmar> It's clear the stupid bitch needed *someone* to take responsibility for her well-being, because clearly she wasn't doing it. 10:27 <@Dagmar> If she was just too stupid to get off the toilet because of whatever little argument she was having, that's her damn problme. 10:28 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 10:34 <@nachoguy> Dagmar, maybe she has diminished mental capacity, they never say one way or the other 10:41 < ware> piss or get off the pot 10:54 -!- buu [n=buu@erxz.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:55 <@oddball> ware: the report said she showered, and changed into clean clothes that the boyfriend brought her. 10:56 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.42] has joined #se2600 10:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 11:10 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o seeblind] by ChanServ 11:23 <@oddball> ok... among my options when I get off work are 1. buy a punching bag, 2. buy more vodka, 3. play violent video games, 4. some combonation of the above 11:23 <@Shadow404> i choose 4 11:24 <@oddball> yeeeeeaaaah... 11:24 <@Shadow404> oddball: buy the punching bag, but the vodka and get drunk, play the violent video games, then take your anger out on the punching bag and then pass out 11:24 <@Shadow404> wake up next day and repeat 11:24 <@oddball> hmm... tempting 11:25 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.42] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:25 <@Shadow404> heh, wish i had one after playing grand theft auto san andreas 11:26 <@nachoguy> I do need a heavy bag at my house 11:26 <@nachoguy> I'm just not sure how to mount/hang it 11:27 <@Shadow404> same here 11:27 <@Shadow404> the only place i can put one is in the shed 11:27 <@oddball> You can get one that's self-standing 11:27 <@oddball> or a stand for that matter 11:28 <@Shadow404> that may work 11:29 < ware> [singing] damn piss and fuck, eat your bitches cunt cheese sweetly! i should have rode my motorcycle today, and assholes in the wind! 11:30 <@someninjaserver> haha 11:30 <@oddball> ware: I thought you sold the bike? 11:31 <@someninjaserver> Shadow404: i have on of the free standing ones 11:32 <@nachoguy> I always thought the free standing ones were either a mess (water or sand in the base) or can't take a solid hit without tipping over 11:33 <@someninjaserver> you have to put alot of weight on the front of it 11:33 <@someninjaserver> mine is a steel frame 11:34 <@someninjaserver> then it has pegs to put weight on 11:34 <@nachoguy> hanging it sounds like a better option. I'd just have to cut away some of the tring from the I beam in my basement 11:34 <@nachoguy> OH! Atl people, I've been meaning to ask and keep forgetting. Is the Varsity as cool as it looks on TV? 11:35 <@ladymerlin> only if you like crappy food and getting scremed at 11:35 <@someninjaserver> haha 11:35 <@Evilpig> shush you. you don't live there so you can't know 11:36 <@ladymerlin> no but ive been there 11:36 <@ladymerlin> and it sucks 11:36 <@rhia> Varsity ... food?more like solidified grease in various forms 11:36 <@rhia> and I did live there for 7 years 11:39 <@someninjaserver> sounds pretty good 11:39 <@rhia> someninjaserver: actually, no 11:40 <@rhia> not "tasty flavorfull greasy", like "colored crisco greasy" - 11:42 <@rhia> dirty tables, counters, floors - bleh 11:43 <@Dagmar> I hear it's a good place to get shot at. 11:48 -!- polerin [n=erin@c-71-228-222-87.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o polerin] by ChanServ 11:49 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.42] has joined #se2600 11:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 11:51 <@nachoguy> ah well, they always make things look nicer on TV 11:57 <@rhia> never tried any of the other locations, but was so not favorably impressed with the original downtown one that i never wanted to try another one 11:59 <@dc0de> heh... 11:59 <@dc0de> from the dc404 channel... 12:00 <@dc0de> Well me and a friend went out to a bar last night and had some jager. 12:00 <@dc0de> Started drinking by 9pm I was at home on the toilet by 11:30pm and passed out 12:00 <@dc0de> hmm 12:00 <@dc0de> Woke up was driving into work this morning, Stopped at McDonalds for a sausage biscuit, after eating my biscuit i coughed kinda hard and ended up puking all over my khakis. 12:02 <@Dagmar> Well, at least it wasn't in the store. I hope. 12:02 <@nachoguy> well, the original was the one that they were showing. The 600 car drive up, and the crazy lines inside like 12 people deep 12:06 <@rhia> probably after a Tech home game 12:06 <+coil> yay got power supply 12:07 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 12:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 12:10 -!- buubot [n=buubot@71.6.194.243] has joined #se2600 12:11 <@Shadow404> http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/03/11/87-outdoor-performance-clothes/ 12:12 -!- buu [n=buu@71.6.194.243] has joined #se2600 12:12 <@Shadow404> so whos good at php? 12:14 <@Evilpig> Dementia: 12:14 <@Shadow404> cool, ill see if she can help 12:15 <@Evilpig> i'm about a retard sometimes. set this power policy change into effect and forgot to give the users the rights to change the registry entry 12:20 <@Dementia> You rang? 12:22 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:24 * Catonic assumes human form 12:25 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 12:30 * Shadow404 throws holy water on Catonic 12:31 * Catonic takes of running: "It BURNS!!!!" 12:36 <+coil> Shadow404: shadowmo1s 12:36 <+coil> hmm other shadow isn't here 12:39 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:41 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has joined #se2600 12:49 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-32-170-248.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 12:49 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-157-96-193.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 12:57 <+coil> yay cpu shipped 12:57 <@brimstone> yay! 12:58 -!- noone is now known as scort 12:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v scort] by ChanServ 13:02 <+coil> i think ram shipped too, but newegg didn't tell me 13:02 <+coil> so now hopefully the mobo doesn't take forever to get here 13:09 <@sdodson> http://i29.tinypic.com/fodstt.png 13:15 <@dc0de> sdodson, perfect 13:19 <@rattle> http://www.memestreams.net/users/rattle/blogid10326081/ 13:21 <@sdodson> i wish people would tell me what a link is for before i click 13:21 <@sdodson> not my link though, you should just assume links from me are pure gold 13:22 <@dc0de> sdodson, I don't click... unless it looks funny. 13:22 <@dc0de> and a rattle blog, doesn't usually inspire me as "funny". 13:23 <@rattle> Well, not "ha-ha funny". Maybe "the world is spinning out of control" funny. 13:23 <@sdodson> my link looked funny? :) 13:23 <@dc0de> rattle, I don't need "the world is spinning out of control" funny right now... I'm living it. 13:23 <@dc0de> sdodson, most of the images you post are humorous 13:23 <@dc0de> and SFW... you're predictable. 13:24 <@rattle> My link was safe for work.. 13:27 <+MaxieZ> All links are safe for work 13:28 <@sdodson> man i almost yelled at you thinking you were the bot 13:28 <@Corydon76-vcch> All links? 13:28 <+MaxieZ> All links are permissible, not all links are beneficial ;) 13:28 <+MaxieZ> 1 Corinthians 10:23 13:28 <@Corydon76-vcch> MaxieZ: 2girls1cup isn't safe for anywhere 13:29 <+MaxieZ> We host that! 13:29 <+MaxieZ> So of course it is 13:29 <@brimstone> ug, don't start saying "we host that!" Shadow404 won't shut up for a week 13:29 <@Corydon76-vcch> MaxieZ: there needs to be a running count of how many people have tossed their cookies upon seeing that 13:30 <+MaxieZ> True...I don't think they're working on that counter though 13:30 <+MaxieZ> And then you have to ask if the 2 girls count. 13:32 < somenothing> Then there'd have to be another counter of how many people got their cookies upon seeing that. That comparison would be interesting, one thinks. 13:32 <@brimstone> MaxieZ: nationalnet.com? do you guys do vps hosting? 13:33 <@Corydon76-vcch> somenothing: "got their cookies"? 13:34 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: what about three girls one cup? 13:34 < somenothing> Corydon: "reached climax".... "Sex is like chinese dinner; it's not over until you both get your cookies," no? 13:35 * Catonic just filled a cup. 13:36 <+MaxieZ> yeah nationalnet.com....don't know about 3 girls. 13:36 <+MaxieZ> We don't do vps hosting yet.... 13:36 <+MaxieZ> We're just starting to look into it for $$ reasons 13:36 <+MaxieZ> Up until now we haven't ever needed to do it. 13:36 <@brimstone> yeah, it seems to be the new lowend thing 13:36 <@Catonic> MaxieZ: how many gig-e? 13:37 <@Catonic> have you got an optical wireless link between the buildings at 10gbit/s yet for internal peering? 13:38 <+MaxieZ> No, we don't have any optical wireless links :) 13:38 <+MaxieZ> We're just in two buildings and we have fiber running between them 13:38 <@Catonic> I figured you'd have that in addition to the interbuilding fiber. 13:39 <@Catonic> Until I ate at a pub with Shadow404, I had no idea how massive those buildings are... 13:40 <+MaxieZ> We have 5 10G-e connections and 5 more gig e connection 13:41 <+MaxieZ> We only do about 15G/s though atm 13:41 <@brimstone> is that all? 13:41 <@brimstone> just curious, but what plan does 2girls1cup use? 13:42 <+MaxieZ> That's all. 13:42 <+MaxieZ> Let me see. 13:43 <@brimstone> JimShoe wants to do a shocker site, but he has no idea what to expect for bandwidth, etc 13:43 <+MaxieZ> Well the server it's on does less than 5M/s 13:44 < ware> weee 13:52 <@ladymerlin> whee 13:55 <+scort> rip coil 14:00 -!- timoguin [n=timoguin@cpe-098-026-113-031.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 14:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o timoguin] by ChanServ 14:01 < ware> r.i.p. coil 14:03 <@dc0de> what happened to coil? 14:04 <@brimstone> killall sshd 14:05 -!- desertc [n=mmm@ubuntu/member/desertc] has joined #se2600 14:06 < desertc> Anyone set up a vehicle as a wifi hotspot? 14:06 <@dc0de> desertc, several. 14:06 < desertc> dc0de: Got a link for instructions? Having a discussion in another channel on the topic. 14:07 <@dc0de> nope. 14:07 < ware> uh.. 14:07 < desertc> I imagine the antenna would have to be outside the frame, right? 14:07 < ware> hookup a access point 14:07 <+scort> lol 14:07 < ware> to a converter 14:07 <+scort> whatabout antennas 14:07 < ware> is this long term? and whats your uplink to the net gonna be? 14:07 <@dc0de> it was pretty straight forward... plug Linksys into 12v power source, connect to laptop with Cellular Connection, and place +7db omni on roof. 14:07 < desertc> I know hand-held radios fail to work well inside a car. 14:08 <@dc0de> make sure routing is enabled, and p00f! roaming hotspot... 14:08 <@dc0de> if you want I can screen cap this conversation and post it to pastbin... :) 14:09 < desertc> Okay, that makes sense for the antenna. Now, the next part, does the routing feature enable the linksys to connect through other wifi hotspots? Say.. like other cars set up in the same way? 14:10 -!- scort [i=scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:10 -!- scort [i=scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 14:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v scort] by ChanServ 14:13 < desertc> dc0de: you do not think you could use the existing radio antenna for the wifi reception? 14:14 <@dc0de> you could... depending on what you're trying to do... 14:14 <@dc0de> if it's connect two moving vehicles together over 802.11, good luck 14:14 < desertc> why do you say, good luck? 14:15 <@dc0de> do you plan on tailgating each other? or plan on using 2w amps? 14:15 < desertc> yeah, I was just picturing something like a caravan of hackers driving from nashville to atlanta (random example) doing a rolling LAN 14:15 <@dc0de> panel antennas or cantennas? 14:15 <@dc0de> then you'd want to use a mesh AP distribution. 14:15 <@dc0de> and have several points of presence on the internet. 14:16 < desertc> wifi can extend out 500-1000 meters in clear L.O.S. situations (like roads) 14:16 <@dc0de> sure... 14:16 < desertc> I don't think you'd need to tailgate 14:16 <@dc0de> ok 14:16 <@Dementia> oddball: you around? 14:16 <+scort> dc0de: how come that doesn't work 14:16 <@dc0de> desertc, I've participated in the wifirace in Nashville for the pas three years 14:16 <+scort> what makes it not work? going too fast? 14:17 <@dc0de> it's a bit more complex than "wifi can extend out 500-1000 meters in clear L.O.S. situations" 14:17 <@dc0de> that's with perfect weather, perfect antennas, no loss on connectors, and stable platforms. 14:17 < desertc> in the wifi race there were buildings and such in the l.o.s 14:17 <@dc0de> cut that in half, and you'd be more accurate. 14:17 <+scort> dc0de: how much does rain degrade the signal? 14:18 <@dc0de> and if you don't choose to use external antennas, then you're going to suffer from signal degradation from the vehicle's frame. 14:18 <@dc0de> well, 2.4ghz is the water line. 14:19 < desertc> right, so external antenna is a must, I agree with you there 14:19 <@dc0de> that's why microwave oven's actually heat food, by vibrating the h20 molecule, since the molecule and the frequency of the microwave are the same. 14:19 <@dc0de> put another way, H20's resonant frequency is 2.4ghz 14:20 <@dc0de> if you want the specifics, ask Catonic 14:20 <+scort> so that breaks up the signal? 14:20 <@dc0de> he knows all the uber geek shit. 14:21 <@dc0de> scort, arguably, rain will lower the noise floor... however, there are cases when it will deflect, absorb, and/or degrade the signal. 14:23 < desertc> I'd love to set up a Wifi access point on my car and make tons of share-alike licensed media available. 14:24 < desertc> Like a nerd-bookmobile. ;) 14:24 <+scort> i want a better antenna 14:24 <+scort> 5dbi omni mag isn't good enough 14:24 <@dc0de> desertc, you can... it'd be fine... just much better when you are stationary... 14:24 <+scort> well it is sweet 14:24 <@dc0de> 5dbi is fine 14:24 <@tzanger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU 14:24 <@tzanger> hahahaha 14:24 <@dc0de> what are you trying to do? reach the moon? 14:24 <+scort> it sucks cuz the lil pin inside the connector keeps getting bent 14:25 <+scort> where you plug it into the card 14:25 <@dc0de> the antenna isn't the big deal... if you want range, get an Amp. 14:25 <+scort> "plug it in right and that wont happen" 14:25 < desertc> Do you think the linksys would draw so much power that you would have to turn it off every night in order to save the battery? 14:25 <@dc0de> and tape it to the card, that always works for me. 14:25 <+scort> ooo, tape' 14:25 <@dc0de> desertc, I wouldn't put it on my car's battery. 14:25 <+scort> but i like looking at the pretty lights 14:25 <+scort> where do i get an amp from 14:25 <@dc0de> I use a separate deep cycle marine 12v battery. 14:26 <+scort> there was a guy that said he had a 2w amp 14:26 <@baudburn> oh my god 14:26 <@baudburn> http://www.kansas.com/news/updates/story/339177.html 14:26 <@dc0de> fleeman-anderson 14:26 <+scort> that was gonna sell for like half off 14:26 <+scort> but shady i guess 14:27 < desertc> I wonder if there are any kits available for putting wifi into a car. Hmm 14:27 <@timoguin> probably not. 14:27 <@dc0de> I like fleeman-anderson, they're in florida, and they guarantee their gear. 14:27 <@timoguin> i doubt anyone has tried to do that before. 14:27 <+scort> dc0de: i think that's where i bought my 5dbi 14:27 <+scort> years ago 14:28 <@dc0de> if you're looking for wifi kits for vehicles, simply search for wifi and camping. Many of the Motor Homes are wifi hotspots. 14:28 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 14:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 14:28 <@dc0de> baudburn, I saw that on the AJC this morning... bizaarre 14:29 <@baudburn> ajc? 14:29 <+scort> dc0de: i want a bi-directional amp? 14:30 <@dc0de> yup 14:30 < desertc> dc0de: huh! thanks 14:30 <@baudburn> what's ajc? 14:30 * dc0de moves back into the box... 14:30 <@dc0de> www.ajc.com 14:30 <@baudburn> ahh 14:31 <@timoguin> baudburn: that's fucked up. 14:32 <@baudburn> timoguin: aye 14:34 < desertc> This is a Cisco conference tonight at 5PM in Brentwood, fyi. 14:34 < desertc> http://ncug.freeservers.com/index.html 14:35 < desertc> Free dinner and AT&T speaks on their 3G broadband aircards -> cisco routers 14:36 < ware> coworker is attending that 14:37 < desertc> I'm headed down - going to be in that area anyway. Thanks for your help on the wifi idea. 14:37 -!- desertc [n=mmm@ubuntu/member/desertc] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 14:38 -!- remoford_ [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:57 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:00 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 15:26 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:31 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.42] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:38 <@Evilpig> this company writes the worst sql updates in the fuckin' world. http://www.esha.com/ 15:38 <@Evilpig> you can run the upgrade process but it will only upgrade the local sql server so if you use a real networked server you have to apply all the updates by hand. and hte last update they put out for 8.3.5 just broke the stuff all to hell and back 15:49 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:53 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 15:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 16:02 -!- MudFlap [n=asdf@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 16:04 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:33 * baudburn falls off seat laughing 16:33 <@baudburn> http://jalopnik.com/367627/how-many-things-are-wrong-with-this-saturn 16:48 <@nachoguy> yesh, that's a bad one 17:05 < ware> ladymerlin: ping 17:10 <@wontonjoe> i hate women 17:10 <@wontonjoe> sorry im a bit bitter right now 17:15 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 17:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 17:25 <@wontonjoe> i got my second interview with apple 17:26 <@tzanger> nice 17:26 <@tzanger> did you get an ipod with the interview? 17:26 <@wontonjoe> lol 17:26 <@wontonjoe> thatd be sweet 17:26 <@ShadowHntr> lol 17:26 <@wontonjoe> music is my hot hor 17:26 <@wontonjoe> hot hot that is 17:27 <@wontonjoe> two girls lost in two weeks, sometimes i believe im just intrinsically fucked 17:27 <@wontonjoe> at least spring break comes soon, i can wallow in the depression for a few days 17:27 <@wontonjoe> did i just say that 17:27 <@wontonjoe> please ignore 17:27 <@wontonjoe> oh wait you already are 17:28 <@tzanger> hot hot? 17:29 <@wontonjoe> the song by css on the ipod touch commercial is called "music is my hot hot sex" 17:29 <@wontonjoe> its an opk song 17:29 <@wontonjoe> opk=ok 17:30 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 17:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 17:35 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:36 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-255-250-219.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 17:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 17:41 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:45 <+scort> openprojects.net 17:45 <+scort> bhgi 17:45 <+scort> hig 17:47 <@Dagmar> Is that site a joke? 17:48 <@Corydon76-vcch> Dagmar: openprojects was the old name of Freenode 17:48 <@Dagmar> Perhaps someone needs to shoot the website and put it out of it's misery 17:48 <+scort> lol 17:48 <+scort> hhshssh 17:48 <+scort> i guess with my old version of xchat 17:48 <+scort> it says that in there 17:48 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> ninjamaster- ping 17:48 <@Dagmar> It's hosting a bunch of definitions, poorly grammar-checked definitions at that, and that's all. 17:49 <+scort> "Freenode (formerly OpenProjects.net) 17:49 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-255-250-219.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 17:49 <@Dagmar> I mean, typically there's a _point_ to a website other than to host some definitions 17:49 <+scort> lol 17:50 <+scort> i guess someone grabbed that domain then 17:50 <@Dagmar> It's like someone tried to over-genericize a website and took all the content out 17:50 <@Dagmar> Nowhere does it say antyhing about what it or anything else actually is 17:50 <@Dagmar> "You may contact us with your questions, suggestions, or concerns. We do read all email even though we only reply to the ones that need a reply." 17:50 <@Dagmar> No explanation of why the site is up, there, either. 18:03 <@sasquatc4> anyone tried any of those htc phones? specifically the mogul 18:03 <+scort> kthx 18:10 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has left #se2600 [] 18:21 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 18:25 <@wontonjoe> :( 18:29 <@dc0de> sorry wontonjoe 18:29 <@dc0de> didn't mean to make you sad. 18:32 <@wontonjoe> dc0de it isnt you 18:32 <@wontonjoe> i got left by girl #2 18:32 <@dc0de> good 18:32 <@wontonjoe> two in two weeks 18:32 <@dc0de> oh, not good 18:32 <@wontonjoe> ya this girl has been in love with me for years, and just admitted it and then said she couldnt stay 18:33 <@wontonjoe> fucking shakspeare shit, im just convinced they all run 18:34 <@wontonjoe> my delta flight rev is still valid, even though x lost that jpob 18:34 <@wontonjoe> so i may fly in after all 18:34 <@dc0de> cool 18:34 <@wontonjoe> ya at least the last thing she gives me will be good lol 18:34 <@wontonjoe> and she dosent even know it 18:34 <@dc0de> oh? 18:34 <@dc0de> you going to get some roofies? 18:35 <@wontonjoe> lol 18:35 <@wontonjoe> no the flight for free lol 18:35 <@dc0de> heh 18:35 <@wontonjoe> i dont need roofies, im just that good 18:36 <@dc0de> apparently. 18:36 <@wontonjoe> i can get the women, i just cant get them to stay 18:37 <@Shadow404> tie them down, works well 18:37 <@dc0de> 2:43 Remaining... 18:37 <@dc0de> Shadow404, how was work today? 18:37 -!- cinotac [n=catonic@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 18:38 <@wontonjoe> damn outerz0ne is next weekend 18:38 <@dc0de> wontonjoe, yup. 18:38 <@dc0de> I have to finish my preso. 18:38 <@wontonjoe> i geuss i should be figuring out how im gonna cover my room, that or check the forum 18:38 <@wontonjoe> ive been absent 18:39 <@wontonjoe> i never finished my slideshow thing 18:39 <@wontonjoe> maybe ill get inspired once i get there 18:39 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #se2600 ["off to reload my OS."] 18:40 < cinotac> what is to being up mah brother men? 18:43 -!- Perse-Pho [i=Opheria@c-69-180-209-3.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #Se2600 18:48 -!- omegix_ [n=omegix@76.73.237.206] has joined #se2600 18:49 -!- omegix_ [n=omegix@76.73.237.206] has quit [Client Quit] 18:49 <@unixfag> wontonjoe: did you get your transportation stuff straightened out? your forum post has been very lonely... 18:53 <@wontonjoe> i think i did, im mpost likely flying, that or driving, but only if my friend alan decides to go 18:53 <@wontonjoe> otherwise im flying 18:59 < cinotac> i want sushi 19:00 <@unixfag> that sounds good :( 19:01 -!- Opheria [i=Opheria@c-69-180-209-3.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:02 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-69-254-12-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:03 -!- cinotac [n=catonic@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit ["BitchX: the IRC client with hair on it's balls"] 19:07 -!- omegix [n=omegix@76.73.237.206] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:08 < cwire> i finally got to compare my forecasting models to the actual data, the biology professor was very pleased considering we got some pretty bad data, http://www.cwired.net/untitled.JPG 19:52 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:01 -!- Catonic [n=catonic@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 20:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 20:03 <@Catonic> the suffering of others is amsuing 20:03 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 20:05 <@Catonic> sup dc0de 20:05 <@dc0de> just reloaded my OS... went to 64 bit 20:05 <@dc0de> now I haz 4GB of memory 20:05 < cwire> fancy 20:05 <@Catonic> is that what it took to overcome your feelings of inadequacy? 20:06 <@dc0de> yeah... that's it... 20:06 <@dc0de> I was tired of having 4GB, but only being able to address 3GB. 20:06 <@Catonic> I've got a machine with 6GB, that's what finally got me over the hump. 20:06 <@dc0de> yeah, but this is my laptop. 20:07 <@Catonic> mine is a dell poweredge 6400 20:07 <@dc0de> and I haz 8 more hours of updates to download. 20:07 <@Catonic> worship the kilowatt crushing power. 20:08 <@dc0de> heh. 20:08 < cwire> so you're still using ubuntu? 20:08 <@Catonic> so how's life been treating you? 20:08 <@dc0de> I wish I was at work with my 20mbps connection still... 20:08 <@dc0de> cwire: yup 20:08 <@Catonic> 20MB/s or 20mb/s? 20:09 <@dc0de> 20 megabits per/sec 20:09 <@dc0de> 20mbps 20:11 <@Catonic> oh. 20:11 * unixfag has a 38MBps connection at work, but is stuck on 100Mbps ethernet :-/ 20:11 <@Catonic> We haz an OC3 at work. And 622 on the I2. 20:11 <@Catonic> I have downloaded the odd patch at 4.6MB/s... 20:11 <@dc0de> 38MegaBytes /sec? 20:11 <@unixfag> two OC3s 20:11 <@dc0de> damn 20:12 < cwire> damn indeed 20:12 <@unixfag> Catonic: some of the kernel mirrors are nice to download from, even if you don't need the kernel :) 20:12 <@Catonic> unixfag: yeah, I actually use my workstation as a mirror due to the I2 rates alone 20:12 -!- iceknife_ [n=iceknife@65-255-132-101.static.fiber4.net] has joined #se2600 20:13 <@Catonic> typically things come in faster over I2, so I bounce the files home from there... 20:13 <+scort> unixfag: where do you work? 20:13 <@Catonic> I've been tempted a few times to throw the laptop in the car and drive to the office to get an ISO 20:13 <@unixfag> an ISP in Memphis 20:13 <@dc0de> oh shit. 20:13 <@dc0de> I need a 64bit flash player. 20:14 <@dc0de> this may have not been the best idea 20:14 <@unixfag> for linux? 20:14 <@dc0de> yes 20:14 <@unixfag> don't you normally just wrap the 32bit one with something like plugger? 20:14 <@dc0de> unixfag: dunno, this is my first 64bit OS 20:14 <@Catonic> dc0de: we just forced it to use the 32bit one 20:14 <@Catonic> anywho... eatstime. later y'all. 20:15 -!- Catonic [n=catonic@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit ["caio."] 20:15 <@unixfag> |$ file /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so 20:15 <@unixfag> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped 20:15 <@unixfag> you should be able to use the 32bit 20:15 < iceknife_> just install flash player 9. 20:15 <@dc0de> right... I have the download... 20:15 < iceknife_> Adobe has a how to on the website for 64 bit linux 20:15 < iceknife_> I'm certain of it 20:15 <@dc0de> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the 20:15 <@dc0de> Adobe Flash Player installer. 20:16 <@dc0de> rgr... lemme go look 20:17 <@unixfag> what distribution are you using? 20:17 < iceknife_> woot 20:17 < iceknife_> http://www.jamesward.org/wordpress/2006/12/06/flash-9-on-64bit-linux-in-2-commands/ 20:17 < iceknife_> how to do it in 2 commands. 20:18 < iceknife_> I knew I saw an article on it awhile back. 20:18 <@unixfag> AND he's wearing a cowboy hat... what more could you want? 20:18 < iceknife_> errr.. 20:19 < mtown_nerd> hot :P 20:19 < iceknife_> so I had an interesting day at the data center..... these days are usually brought on by what I like to call "idiots" 20:19 < iceknife_> We had an AC unit go out... so the temp. raised some.. The guy in charge that night decided the easy fix would be to turn the thermostat way down.. froze the redunant AC up 20:20 < iceknife_> next thing you know the hot isle is over 110 degrees 20:20 <@unixfag> LOL 20:20 < iceknife_> we are having to remove doors to racks and then bring fans in while defrosting spare ac. 20:20 < iceknife_> and sending a guy 6 hours each way to pick up a new ac unit.. 20:20 < iceknife_> That is the effect of an "idiot" 20:21 < iceknife_> All while "Juice" from this channel comes for an interview. 20:21 <+scort> sounds like what my roommate keeps doing 20:21 <@dc0de> brilliant!!! 20:21 <+scort> so that's why i cut off the ac compressor at the fuse box 20:21 < iceknife_> lol.. I had to call and appologize tonight to juice and explain its not usually like that.. that was the effect of the "idiot" effect 20:22 < iceknife_> That makes for a long ass day. 20:22 <+scort> long ass hot day 20:22 < iceknife_> I'm just hoping al the equipment is okay. 20:22 < iceknife_> I'm worried about hard drives seizing up in the next week or so 20:23 <+scort> backup 20:23 < iceknife_> the part I negelected was the guy afraid of getting in trouble didn't tell anyone.. I found out when I came in at 7am this morning 20:23 < iceknife_> so It was over 100 for about 6 hours which really pissed me off. 20:24 < iceknife_> yeah we have off site replication for all our servers.. I still would rather not have to deal with it 20:24 <@unixfag> have you checked to see how high the drives got? 20:25 < iceknife_> No. 20:25 <@unixfag> well, as long as you don't look it can't hurt you 20:25 <+scort> they got too high 20:25 < iceknife_> lol. 20:25 < iceknife_> Yeah I know we are in trouble on one server as I had to rebuild the raid to get it to come back online fully 20:26 < iceknife_> which is the only one that acted up today. 20:26 < iceknife_> It was just a mess. 20:29 < iceknife_> Oh well one good thing did happen.. I got my new toy 20:30 < iceknife_> A SSL-VPN 2000 by sonicwall. 20:35 <@unixfag> lol 20:35 <@unixfag> I have so much ill will to that device 20:36 -!- remoford_ [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 20:38 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 20:38 -!- Persephone [i=Opheria@c-69-180-209-3.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #Se2600 20:41 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-69-254-12-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]"] 20:42 -!- Netsplit niven.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Perse-Pho, @Corydon76-dig, +MxZBot, @unixfag 20:46 <@dc0de> looks like we lost kornbluth 20:46 <@sdodson> My neighbor's water heater bork and my apartment got water in it :( 20:47 <@sdodson> OH NO! SOUND THE ALARM! 20:52 -!- juice_ [n=juice@doc-72-47-32-112.maryville.mo.cebridge.net] has joined #se2600 20:53 <@dc0de> sdodson: that sux... do you have renters insurance? 20:53 < juice_> ack 20:53 < juice_> what does it mean when smokes comes out from the monitor :P 20:53 <@dc0de> juice, that's usually "not good" 20:53 < juice_> i was was sitting hear smell something like burning 20:53 < juice_> and am like hmm 20:54 < juice_> lookup here comes smoke rolling out of the crt monitor 20:54 -!- Corydon76-dig [i=one@c-68-53-162-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-dig] by ChanServ 20:54 <@sdodson> dc0de: yes i have to 20:56 -!- Netsplit over, joins: unixfag 20:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 21:02 <@dc0de> automatix2 4 the win! 21:10 <@dc0de> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23449678/ 21:10 <@dc0de> read the LAST line of the article... 21:11 <@tzanger> dc0de: heh 21:11 <@tzanger> I never liked ihop 21:12 <@sdodson> automatix sucks ass 21:13 <@sdodson> plz plz plz do naut use 21:13 <@sdodson> If you want to use windows or osx then us them. 21:14 <@dc0de> sdodson, then what should I use to get all of the needed tools for browsing the web? 21:14 <@sdodson> i dunno, last time I read about automatix is sure sounded like pure un maintainable shit 21:15 <@sdodson> That's the culture ubuntu breeds though. 21:15 <@sdodson> here, lets just ram this into place until it works 21:15 <@dc0de> yeah, because fedora is so elegant. 21:15 <@dc0de> :P 21:15 <@sdodson> I think it is. 21:15 <@dc0de> http://www.getautomatix.com/ 21:16 <@dc0de> it's not an ubuntu culture. 21:16 <@dc0de> it's a debian culture. 21:16 <@sdodson> Fedora is driven to fix problems. Ubuntu is driven to make things work. 21:16 <@dc0de> and automatix actually is maintainable. 21:20 <@sdodson> What reason wouldn't software be included in a free OS? 21:20 <@dc0de> it's non-free. 21:20 <@dc0de> or it's not in the "base" install. 21:21 <@sdodson> Or sucks. So both of those are reasons I don't think automatix should exist. 21:21 <@dc0de> oh, ok. 21:21 <@dc0de> then I'd have to spend 3 more hours finding all the things at different sites, and adding to my sources list, to get the tools I want on my desktop. 21:21 <@dc0de> sounds like a WONDERFUL solution. 21:22 <@dc0de> so Fedora has Java installed by default in mozilla? 21:23 <@sdodson> No. 21:23 <@dc0de> and all of the codec's needed to view video online? 21:23 <@sdodson> No. 21:23 <@dc0de> hrm... seems that the OS should include all that stuff, no? 21:23 <@dc0de> or are java and codecs sucky software? 21:24 <@sdodson> If it were possible to do so legally and in a supportable manner yes. 21:24 <@dc0de> java's not legal? or supportable? 21:24 <@dc0de> or Skype? or icdeTed? 21:24 <@dc0de> or Crossover Office/ 21:24 <@dc0de> ? 21:25 <@dc0de> I guess that you assume the worst... 21:25 <@dc0de> I find automatix a great help. 21:25 <@dc0de> in fact, I've donated. 21:25 <@sdodson> Nope, they're not available under compatable licenses. 21:26 <@sdodson> icetea is, it's just not very complete so it's not installed by default 21:26 <@dc0de> so you're saying that I can't install SKype? 21:26 <@dc0de> and since I own a Crossover pro license, I can't install that either? 21:26 <@sdodson> I'm saying it can't be distributed with the OS. 21:27 <@dc0de> Ok, and so automatix makes it easier for people to install the tools they need to get their desktop where they need it to be. 21:27 <@dc0de> what is wrong with that? 21:28 <@dc0de> it helps people make the transition from a windows world to linux, how is it a bad thing? 21:29 <@sdodson> Switching from Windows to Linux should be more than just a change in the bits you run. 21:29 <@sdodson> People should understand why Linux is better and not simply due to technical merits. 21:30 <@dc0de> that's an elitist view of it. 21:30 <@sdodson> If they don't grok that, then fuck em, I'd prefer they use Windows. 21:30 <@dc0de> so you don't want linux to be on every desktop. 21:30 <@sdodson> No, that would suck. 21:30 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 21:30 <@dc0de> because you'd have to work more? 21:31 <@dc0de> I want linux to take over on the desktop. 21:31 <@sdodson> No, monocultures are bad. 21:32 <@dc0de> i didn't say that I wanted only linux, I would like to see it be predominant. 21:32 <@dc0de> you'll always have mac fan boys, and windows hold outs. 21:32 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 21:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 21:32 <@dc0de> and beOS freaks, and OS/2 leftovers. 21:33 <@sdodson> I don't care about Linux per se. 21:33 <@sdodson> Linux is just a vehicle for the revolution. 21:33 <@dc0de> but, as much as I'd like to discuss this, my wife just winked at me, and went to bed... So I'm off to get turned down in bed. 21:34 <@sdodson> bummer 21:34 <@rattle> This evening, I will be hating on NOC techs that screw up change windows. 21:34 <@rattle> Grrr.. 21:35 <@rattle> I was just trying to coordinate changing a handover subnet between routers with an ISP.. And they completely fucked up the routes. It was not fun. 21:39 -!- MxZBot [n=mxzbot@maxiez.com] has joined #se2600 21:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v MxZBot] by ChanServ 21:51 <@MudFlap> I'd like linux to take over as well. But MS has my entire operation by the balls. 21:52 <@MudFlap> I'm obligated to use MS for AutoCad, Microstation, and I am obligated to use IE for the accounting system. 21:53 <@MudFlap> So I run linux in the backroom for general servers. 21:54 <@MudFlap> Grrrr! 21:54 <@brimstone> ... sounds like where i work... 21:55 < iceknife_> MS has a lot of operations by the balls. 21:55 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: it does? 21:55 < iceknife_> I hate to admit it, but I like server 2008 21:56 < iceknife_> I like hyper-v 21:56 < iceknife_> makes me want to kill myself 21:56 <@brimstone> M$ bought the company that made our account system 21:56 <@brimstone> and the website stat gather that sales uses has some crap activex controller 21:57 <@MudFlap> I'm on the MS treadmill. Now I got to invest $cash to get everything to work. 21:57 < iceknife_> Well its not all bad. 21:57 <@sdodson> Is it as nice as vmware? 21:57 < iceknife_> I like Exchange. 21:58 < iceknife_> We've had good luck with Exchange 2007 21:58 <@Corydon76-dig> iceknife_: you forgot the tags 21:58 < iceknife_> Actually no, I really like exchange 2007 lol. 21:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Now you forgot the tagas 21:59 < iceknife_> We've had no problems with it at all.. it's been very stable. 21:59 <@MudFlap> I'd like Exchange, but they got used to free mail on linux. 21:59 <@Corydon76-dig> iceknife_: every place I've heard with Exchange has had no ends of problems, mainly database corruption, with it 21:59 < iceknife_> We are a Microsoft Gold Partner so we get it all free. 21:59 <+scort> we use exchange!!! 21:59 <+scort> it's soooo coool 22:00 < iceknife_> We do Hosted Exchange and have quite a few exchange servers. It's nice. 22:00 < iceknife_> I have no beefs with Exchange. 22:00 < iceknife_> Had no problems.. We had some when we used Veritas backup software.. 22:00 <@sdodson> how much prior investment does gold partner level require? 22:00 * MudFlap has beef in general. 22:00 < iceknife_> We moved over to Ahsay for backup software and haven't had a lick of problems with backups. 22:01 < iceknife_> sdodson not sure.. You have to meet a point criteria. 22:01 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 22:01 < iceknife_> based on how many certified employees you have, letters from clients, and etc. 22:01 < iceknife_> before you even pay the fee 22:02 <@sdodson> iceknife_: Ya, I've looked at it. 22:02 < iceknife_> now a peice of junk MS software is MOM server. 22:02 < iceknife_> that is a hunk of junk that should burn in hell. 22:02 <@sdodson> It's like 2 points for this, 5 points for that. I was interested in becoming a partner. 22:02 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-255-250-219.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 22:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 22:02 <@sdodson> MOM sits atop SMS right? how do you like SMS? 22:03 < iceknife_> no it doesn't have to sit on SMS. 22:04 < iceknife_> I just had a nightmare trying to get all the hosted services up and going. 22:04 < iceknife_> It wasn't the easiest process in the world.. and it was all the fault of the MOM server.... 22:05 <@sdodson> I never got SMS working 22:05 <@sdodson> I tried for about 3 days then gave up 22:05 < iceknife_> where you doing it in a virtual machine? 22:05 <@sdodson> no, bare metal 22:06 < iceknife_> you can do SMS or MOM very well in a virtual enviroment. 22:06 < iceknife_> now next question were you doing it in a child domain? 22:06 < iceknife_> * you can't do SMS or MOM very well in a virtual enviroment 22:07 <@sdodson> I don't think so, we created a new forest on the sms box itself i think 22:07 <@sdodson> this was about 3 years ago now 22:07 < iceknife_> We were setting up a HMC4.0 sandbox test on a virtual server and that caused problems, then we had it on a child domain and again caused issues..... SMS and MOM I found out don't like either of those situations. 22:08 < iceknife_> Has anyone played with "home server"? 22:10 < iceknife_> I haven't had a chance yet. 22:10 < iceknife_> I've heard mixed reviews on it. 22:13 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-157-96-193.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 22:13 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-157-96-193.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 22:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 22:19 <@dasunt> Oh, anyone familiar with IOS 12.x? 22:25 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 22:39 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-255-250-219.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:47 <@Mirage> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3560/software/release/12.1_19_ea1/configuration/guide/swtrbl.html 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> http://support.nortel.com/go/main.jsp?cscat=OVERVIEW&poid=8122 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> and? 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> not quite in the same class... 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> that supposed to be a switch or a router lol 22:49 <+scort> hi ShadowHntr 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> i thought the routers did QoS, not the switches. 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> but that may be my ignorance lol 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> :) 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> sup sco 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> ack 22:50 <@ShadowHntr> scort 22:50 <@sdodson> everyone knows switches are the ones that have ports going horizontally, routers are vertical 22:50 <@ShadowHntr> lol 22:50 <+scort> ShadowHntr: 22:50 <+scort> i bought some shit i didn't need yesterday 22:51 <@ShadowHntr> yeah? 22:51 <@sdodson> hoes? 22:51 <+scort> some pc hardware 22:52 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.slayradio.org/mastering_swedish_lesson_2.php 22:52 <@dasunt> Mirage: Thanks. 22:53 <@Mirage> dasunt: np 22:53 <@dasunt> I have a router I have to configure tomorrow. 22:53 <@dasunt> Damnit. 22:53 <@ShadowHntr> scort: are you asking me to take it off your hands or something? :/ 22:54 <+scort> no 22:57 <@Mirage> ShadowHntr: I belive that Layer-2 Switches have QoS capability, but not normal ones. 22:57 <@ShadowHntr> hmmm... 22:58 <@ShadowHntr> Mirage: would you happen to know much about VLANs? 22:58 <@ShadowHntr> i've acquired a Nortel Baystack switch 22:58 <@ShadowHntr> that has that capability 22:58 <@Mirage> Does it support tagging? 22:58 <@ShadowHntr> and i've been reading the users manual for it, but it's uphill work 22:58 <@ShadowHntr> yes. 22:58 <@Mirage> or just grouping 22:58 <@ShadowHntr> tagging 22:58 <@ShadowHntr> Baystack 350-12T 22:59 <@ShadowHntr> i'm assuming it's layer 2 managed 22:59 <@Mirage> vlans aren't that hard so long as you have an OS running dhcp, etc that is VLAN aware 22:59 <@Mirage> I've set it up under FreeBSD, but not under linux 23:00 <@ShadowHntr> so vlans require client configuration? 23:00 <+scort> dhcpcd ? 23:00 <+MxZBot> dhcpcd is the client script? 23:00 <@Mirage> no, they require a sever that can recognise and use the tags 23:00 <@ShadowHntr> the ultimate environment of this is winblows systems 23:00 <@ShadowHntr> uplinking to a dsl smart modem 23:00 <@ShadowHntr> with it's own DHCP server 23:01 <@ShadowHntr> my ultimate goal 23:01 <@Mirage> i SERIOUSLY doubt that ANY dsl modem would be vlan aware 23:01 <@Mirage> ever 23:01 <@ShadowHntr> wouldn't surprise me 23:01 -!- ShadowHntr was kicked from #se2600 by sdodson [winblows] 23:01 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 23:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 23:01 <@ShadowHntr> fuck off 23:01 <@ShadowHntr> :P 23:01 <@sdodson> MxZBot: winblows? 23:01 <+MxZBot> You linux weenies look so petty and small-minded when you do that. (http://www.silly.names.is.not.an.effective.argument.com/) 23:01 <@ShadowHntr> my ultimate goal is to segregate a few ports into a second VLAN, and not allow them access to VLAN 1 23:01 <@ShadowHntr> can this be done on a layer 2 switch? 23:02 <+scort> an you 23:02 <@sdodson> what layer are vlans at, ShadowHntr? 23:02 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: i'm trying to figure that out 23:02 <@ShadowHntr> i'm thinking layer 2 23:03 <@sdodson> and switches operate in which layer? 23:03 <@ShadowHntr> layer 2 or 3 23:03 <@ShadowHntr> this one, layer 2 23:03 <@sdodson> i guess that line is blurred these days. 23:05 <@Mirage> ShadowHntr: you'll have to have a linux box or something doing the routing between the subnets. the switch itself isn't smart enough 23:05 <@ShadowHntr> k 23:05 <@ShadowHntr> i may still use VLANs to partially segregate the traffic 23:11 -!- shadowmo1s [n=shadowmo@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:11 -!- critch [n=critch@steven.basesys.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:11 -!- critch [n=critch@c-71-228-211-57.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:12 <@dasunt> http://intranet.risd.edu/ngallery/albums/129/7.aspx 23:13 <+scort> hi dasunt 23:13 <@brimstone> http://fffff.at/rickroll-database 23:13 <+scort> ickroll 23:19 -!- scort [i=scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:20 -!- scort [i=scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 23:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v scort] by ChanServ 23:26 -!- notlarry [n=notlarry@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:26 -!- Mirage [n=mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:52 -!- Mirage [n=mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 23:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 23:52 -!- Mirage [n=mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has quit [Client Quit] 23:53 -!- Mirage [n=mirage@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 23:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Mirage] by ChanServ 23:58 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] --- Log closed Fri Mar 14 00:00:08 2008