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00:01 <+coil> it's all cool
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00:17 <@someninjamaster> haha
00:17 <@someninjamaster> i just found some redhat 6.1 install disks
00:17 <+coil> i have those around here somewhere
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00:20 <+coil> hey dc0de
00:22 <@ShadowHntr> sup someninjamaster
00:22 <@ShadowHntr> coil
00:22 <@ShadowHntr> :)
00:22 <+coil> hey ShadowHntr
00:22 <@ShadowHntr> just bidding on a digital camera on ebay
00:23 <@ShadowHntr> also trying to get my suse 10.3 set back up
00:23 <@ShadowHntr> moved from 32-bit to AMD64
00:23 <@ShadowHntr> trying to get everything working right
00:23 <@ShadowHntr> installing KDE right now
00:24 <+coil> i didn't say whats up though :P
00:24 <@ShadowHntr> well fine then
00:24 <@ShadowHntr> just ignore me
00:24 <@ShadowHntr> it's not like you're particularly interested in what *i'm* doing, anyway...
00:24 <@ShadowHntr> :P
00:24 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
00:26 <+coil> yep
00:26 <+coil> im too poor to afford that new fangled 64 bit
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> lol
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> built this system back in september
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> dual-core AMD Opteron
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> socket AM2
00:26 <@ShadowHntr> 4GB DDR2 RAM
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> it wasn't expensive
00:27 <+coil> i dunno if i'd go with intel or amd on my next pc
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> i got the lowest end Opteron AM2
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> i love it
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> very efficient
00:27 <+coil> i've always bought amd when i could
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> with the case and power supply i've selected
00:27 <+coil> intel is meh
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> powered it on for the first time
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> i could NOT hear it
00:27 <@ShadowHntr> so incredibly quiet
00:27 <+coil> did you remember to put the headsink and fan on ? :P
00:28 <@ShadowHntr> and processor temps never exceeding 35C
00:28 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
00:28 <@ShadowHntr> stock fan from the boxed processor
00:28 <@brimstone> coil: after the core 2, amd is bound to relaease the next cool proc
00:28 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: check out the Phenom
00:28 <@brimstone> the opterons might be it
00:28 <@ShadowHntr> tri and quad core
00:28 <@brimstone> i dunno
00:28 <@brimstone> tri core?
00:28 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
00:28 <+coil> but i dont want to pay out the ass
00:28 <@ShadowHntr> three cores
00:28 <+coil> for a "cool" proc
00:28 <+coil> i want one that is neat
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> coil: check out the Phenom
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> better priced than the core 2 quad from what i've heard
00:29 <+coil> http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_15331_15332,00.html
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> my dual core Opteron 1210 i paid around 100 for
00:29 <+coil> whens that coming out
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> firefox not installed right now
00:29 <@ShadowHntr> trying to get it so i can have 32-bit firefox on 64-bit suse
00:30 <+coil> i dont have a use for 64 bit
00:30 <@ShadowHntr> but the yast on gnome is funky, i can't specify a different arch
00:30 <@brimstone> i'm using 32bit on my core 2 :/
00:30 <@ShadowHntr> coil: neither do i, but i want the practice.
00:31 <+coil> brimstone: core2 only 32 bit?
00:31 <@brimstone> no, but then i didn't have to fool with 32 vs 64, etc
00:31 <@ShadowHntr> core 2 can do 64-bit
00:31 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: 32-bit code will run on x86_64
00:31 <@brimstone> yes it will
00:32 <+coil> so whos the best mobo maker now?
00:32 <+coil> asus still good?
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> i prefer Gigabyte
00:32 <+coil> well we all prefer something ShadowHntr
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> gigabyte and msi
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> asus is still good, yes
00:32 <+coil> who has the least amt of pos hardware
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> nothing bad with them
00:32 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
00:33 <+coil> my msi mobo did some weird shit on me
00:33 <+coil> died in a weird way
00:34 <@ShadowHntr> coil: http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=54962198/search=phenom+/st=product/sv=title
00:34 <@ShadowHntr> it's out now
00:34 <+coil> k, ill save up for that then
00:35 <+coil> or i guess i could blow my cc on it
00:35 <@ShadowHntr> Opterons have quad-core as well
00:35 <@ShadowHntr> coil: q1 and q2 this year for tri core
00:35 <@ShadowHntr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_future_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors
00:35 <+coil> only 2.2ghz?
00:36 <@ShadowHntr> clock frequency means less nowadays
00:36 <@ShadowHntr> can do more per clock
00:36 <@ShadowHntr> my opteron is 1.8ghz
00:36 <@ShadowHntr> runs like a 3.0ghz equivalent xeon
00:36 <@ShadowHntr> at least 3.0ghz
00:36 <+coil> werd
00:36 <+coil> hmm and what would go well with that cpu
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> the tri core would probably be your best move
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> value wise
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> depends on how much you're willing to spend of course
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> but if i were to buy right now
00:37 <+coil> AM2+ SOCKET?
00:37 <@brimstone> i don't trust the tri core
00:37 <@ShadowHntr> coil: yeap
00:37 <+coil> why 3 cores?
00:37 <@brimstone> just cuz it's not 1, 2 or 4
00:37 <+coil> i dont get it
00:38 <+coil> yes
00:38 <+coil> ima make a pi cpu
00:38 <+coil> 3.141592...
00:38 <+coil> that man cpus in it!
00:38 <@brimstone> 22/7ths of a cpu?
00:38 <+coil> yes
00:40 <@ShadowHntr> brb
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00:44 <@ShadowHntr> coil: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380002770580
00:44 <+coil> wow, a new pc wont be that expensive
00:44 <+coil> 2gb ram 89, cpu 189, mobo < 99
00:44 <+coil> that's pretty much all i need
00:44 <+coil> maybe a video card, but that's too expensive
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> gigabyte ga-m68sm-s2 mobo
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> onboard GeForce 7025 gfx
00:45 <@ShadowHntr> decent onboard discrete graphics
00:45 <+coil> decent enough to run compiz?
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> don't know
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> haven't tried
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> coil: let me try
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> that's the board i'm using
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> of course i am running at a high res
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> 1680x1050
00:46 <@ShadowHntr> what's your monitor's normal res
00:46 <+coil> not sure
00:47 <@ShadowHntr> give me a few minutes
00:47 <+coil> well, actualoly is at that same resolution
00:47 <@ShadowHntr> k cool
00:47 <@ShadowHntr> give me a few minutes and i'll tell you how it works
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> is compiz kde-specific or does it work with gnome as well
00:48 <@brimstone> it works with kde, gnome and xfce
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> cool
00:48 <@brimstone> any "desktop environment"
00:48 <@ShadowHntr> give me a few minutes to get myself situated.
00:48 <+coil> brimstone: what's it called noq
00:49 <+coil> it's still called compiz?
00:49 <+coil> or did they change it
00:49 <@ShadowHntr> it's still compiz
00:49 <+coil> i could never get that shit working
00:49 <+coil> always a fucking problem with those damn ati drivers
00:50 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not even sure if i have compiz installed on here :P
00:52 <+coil> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128052&ATT=13-128-052&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3watch&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3watch-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-GIGABYTE-_-13128052
00:52 <+coil> im looking at that
00:52 <+coil> but it has ati chip
00:52 <+coil> can't find your mobo
00:53 <@ShadowHntr> hang on
00:54 <+coil> 0/1/0+1/JBOD
00:54 <+coil> what's JBOD raid
00:54 <@ShadowHntr> it's no raid
00:54 <@ShadowHntr> Just a Bunch Of Disks
00:54 <+coil> no
00:55 <+coil> oh
00:55 <+coil> werid
00:55 <+coil> never heard "JBOD" before
00:55 <+coil> i want http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128074&ATT=13-128-074&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3watch&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3watch-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-GIGABYTE-_-13128074
00:55 <+coil> but it's 189
00:56 <@ShadowHntr> hmmm...
00:56 <@ShadowHntr> i imagine the amd chipsets should run just fine
00:56 < R3d2Dawn> Any one using windows? If so whats your Media Player of Choice?
00:56 <+coil> fubar2000000000000
00:57 <+coil> -000000000
00:57 <@ShadowHntr> R3d2Dawn: media player classic and winamp.
00:58 <+coil> fsck mpc
00:58 <+coil> winamp is meh
00:58 <+coil> winamp v2.x ftw
00:58 <@ShadowHntr> 5.x is fine with me
00:59 <+coil> winamp can't handle my massive music library
00:59 <+coil> only media player that has ever handled it is itunes
00:59 <+coil> so itunes ftw
00:59 <@ShadowHntr> itunes for music
00:59 <@ShadowHntr> winamp for shorter playlists
00:59 <@ShadowHntr> winamp for video
00:59 <+coil> im glad i moved away from windows a long time ago
01:00 <+coil> but i still gotta support it :/
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> coil: i'm in the process of moving off, but i use steam and gametap. two apps that don't work with cedega the best quite yet.
01:00 <@ShadowHntr> i haven't had too many problems with windows, but maybe i'm doing it right lol
01:00 <+coil> i never had a lot of problems
01:06 < R3d2Dawn> Here is some alts if anyone cares...GOM Player is a great player for Video files, most codec's are already built in. VLAN is great in some cases. As far as music goes aTunes is very nice, but my favorite for organizing music and playing and for radio is Jajuk
01:07 <+coil> aTunes?
01:07 <+coil> is that oos?
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> coil: open source
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> yeap
01:07 <+coil> werd
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't like it though
01:07 <+coil> oh
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> too cluttered
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> and alittle sluggish
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> don't know why
01:07 <+coil> i just want a fucking app that can handle all my music
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> lol
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> itunes not work for ya?
01:07 <+coil> none of these oos shits fucking work
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> or are you complete linux
01:07 <+coil> itunes is the ONLY thing that works
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> amarok?
01:07 <+MxZBot> amarok is the same
01:08 < R3d2Dawn> But mostly for radio I use Nexus Radio
01:08 <+coil> amarok crashes like theres no tomorrow
01:08 < R3d2Dawn> yes aTunes is OOS
01:08 <+coil> ill give it a try on the dell lappy
01:09 < R3d2Dawn> I don't have issues with either aTunes or iTunes for handling my music library and I have well over 200 gigs worth
01:09 <+coil> yes itunes works wonders
01:09 <+coil> but it does take a lil bit to load and close
01:09 < R3d2Dawn> but I mostly use Jajuk
01:09 <+coil> on osx?
01:09 < R3d2Dawn> cause I love the album cover view on it
01:10 < R3d2Dawn> Jajuk is not platform independent
01:10  * coil ssh
01:10 < R3d2Dawn> you can download it in any platform or in Java
01:10 <+coil> oh...java...
01:10 < R3d2Dawn> I actually have Jajuk on my protable drive
01:10 <+coil> i want to shortname my computers
01:11 <+coil> so instead of typing out 192.168.1.3415 i can type ssh a
01:11 <+coil> and it would connect to that computer
01:11 < R3d2Dawn> and have it set up so when I insert it in it Loads Jajuk's profile and then Jajuk
01:11 <@ShadowHntr> coil: /etc/hosts ftw
01:11 <@ShadowHntr> :D
01:11 <+coil> i was thinking that
01:12 <+coil> osx will read that too?
01:12 <+coil> i wanted to put it on my dns server
01:12 < R3d2Dawn> I pretty much only use OpenSource Software
01:12 < R3d2Dawn> now
01:12 < R3d2Dawn> I have found some of the best software via OpenSource
01:12 <+coil> but not sure how i would setup it to resolve "a" to an ip addy
01:13 <@brimstone> or use shell aliases coil
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> coil
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> in /etc/hosts
01:13 <+coil> `i know how to do it in hosts file
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> 10.0.0.1 <tab> a
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> then it'll resolve
01:13 <+coil> but i want to do it network wide
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> do it on all of them
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> in the /etc/hosts
01:13 <+coil> that's only 10 computers
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> or set up dns on your intranet
01:13 <+coil> sure let me get on that
01:13 <+coil> i have dns setup
01:13 <+coil> but i dont know how to make "a" to resolve to ip
01:14 <+coil> in the conf files
01:14 < R3d2Dawn> actually you can even try JaJuk live via their site withough installation
01:14 <+coil> setup a zone?
01:14 < R3d2Dawn> if you want to try
01:14 < R3d2Dawn> http://www.jajuk.info/index.php/Try_Jajuk_Live
01:15 < R3d2Dawn> Their is also Jukes and it is cross platform
01:16 <@ShadowHntr> coil: probably
01:16 <@ShadowHntr> make up a domain name for your internal lan
01:16 <@ShadowHntr> and have all machines search against that domain
01:16 <@ShadowHntr> in your /etc/resolv.conf
01:16 <@ShadowHntr> or windows dns settings
01:17 <+coil> i have a domain name made up for my lan
01:17 <+coil> but it's too long to type
01:17 <+coil> "what's the point"
01:17 <@ShadowHntr> you don't have to
01:17 <@ShadowHntr> if you have your machines set to search against the domain by default
01:17 <@ShadowHntr> http://w/ would work
01:17 <@ShadowHntr> in that environment
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> as an example
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> :)
01:18 <+coil> i just want ssh a to work
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> set up shell alias is another way
01:18 <+coil> a=ip?
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> alias a "ssh 10.1.1.1" or something like that
01:19 <+coil> that would be better
01:19 <+coil> cuz i have ssh on a non standard port (i dont know why)
01:19 <@ShadowHntr> i've set up NIS and NFS way back when
01:19 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
01:19 <@ShadowHntr> ?
01:19 <@ShadowHntr> :/
01:19 <+coil> so i have to type of 4 digit port number too
01:19 <@ShadowHntr> :P
01:20 <+coil> i heard nfs wasn't secure
01:20 <+coil> but that doesn't matter if im the only one that knows what nfs is in a mile radius?
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> coil
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> found an MSI equivalent of the board i have
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=63243562/search=K9NGM4-F/st=query
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> same chipset
01:22 <@ShadowHntr> coil: if it's in your internal network and you don't map the port out, does it matter?
01:24 <+coil> i do map the port
01:24 <+coil> actually, i think i have the wrong port mapped out
01:24 <@ShadowHntr> NFS?
01:24 <@ShadowHntr> that's a bad move.
01:24 <+coil> oh wait
01:24 <+coil> i was talking about ssh port
01:24 <@ShadowHntr> are these machines not all on the same network?
01:24 <+coil> i have smb setup
01:25 <+coil> and i mainly use that
01:25 <@ShadowHntr> i once did on a lan nis authentication and nfs sharing of the home dirs
01:26 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130162&ATT=13-130-162&CMP=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3grabb3r-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-MSI-_-13130162
01:26 <@ShadowHntr> coil: almost the same board as mine, but it has serial ports on the back and no onboard DVI
01:26 <+coil> ~minilink
01:26 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/newegg.com/LHFSp.aspx
01:26 <@ShadowHntr> sorry bout that
01:26 <@ShadowHntr> :P
01:26 <+coil> ur link broke my terminal!
01:26 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
01:26 <@ShadowHntr> :P
01:26 <+coil> it wont right click on anything now
01:27 <@ShadowHntr> ctrl-l doesn't fix it?
01:27 <@ShadowHntr> Ctrl-L
01:27 <+coil> i dont go cheap on my mobos
01:27 <+coil> illgladly pay 150 for an above-par mobo
01:27 <@ShadowHntr> mine wasn't expensive, but it was not the cheapest
01:27 <+coil> and that thing looks like a lil pos
01:28 <+coil> i like my mobos with lots of shit on it
01:28 <+coil> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128074&ATT=13-128-074&CMP=OTC-pr1c3watch&nm_mc=OTC-pr1c3watch&cm_mmc=OTC-pr1c3watch-_-Motherboards+-+AMD-_-GIGABYTE-_-13128074
01:28 <+coil> hardon
01:29 <@ShadowHntr> http://ostg.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=63577396/search=GA-MA78GM/st=query
01:29 <@ShadowHntr> how bout that
01:29 <@ShadowHntr> or is 109 too "cheap"
01:29 <@ShadowHntr> :P
01:31 <+coil> maybe
01:31 <+coil> what watt ps does it reccommend?
01:31 <@ShadowHntr> depends on proc
01:31 <+coil> i might need an upgrade in that dept too
01:31 < R3d2Dawn> Night All
01:31 <@ShadowHntr> i got a 500w Antec earthwatts
01:31 <+coil> the phemon
01:31 <@ShadowHntr> um
01:31 <@ShadowHntr> look up the power rating
01:31 <@ShadowHntr> it says 89W i think
01:32 <+coil> it doesn't say
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01:34 <+coil> i've been fucked over before on onboard raid chipsets not workig in linux
01:35 <+coil> ShadowHntr: that mobo aint too bad
01:36 <+coil> ShadowHntr: with the diff colored ram slots, what the diff
01:37 <+coil> ShadowHntr: wtf am i going to do with my agp card?!??!!?
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01:41 <@ShadowHntr> damn that hurt.
01:42 <+coil> hi ShadowHntr
01:42 <@ShadowHntr> coil: max thermal design point of 125W
01:42 <@ShadowHntr> my cable went haywire lol
01:42 <+coil> so i should be fine with my ps
01:42 <@ShadowHntr> probably get at least a 400W power supply
01:42 <+coil> it's an antec
01:42 <@ShadowHntr> perhaps 450
01:42 <@ShadowHntr> cool
01:42 <+coil> stfu
01:42 <+coil> no im cheap
01:42 <@ShadowHntr> i do like their earthwatts line
01:42 <+coil> ill upgrade when it dies
01:43 <@ShadowHntr> 80+% efficiency
01:43 <@ShadowHntr> :D
01:43 <@ShadowHntr> i have a 500w power supply
01:43 <@ShadowHntr> it wasn't expensive
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01:43 <+coil> lol nm
01:43 <+coil> i thought i had an antec
01:43 <+coil> nope some no name
01:43 <+coil> and it's 330 w
01:43 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006
01:43 <@ShadowHntr> 430W there
01:43 <@ShadowHntr> 49.99
01:44 <+coil> meh
01:44 <+coil> should i buy mobo?
01:44 <+coil> sweet
01:44 <+coil> then ill move all my hardware around
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01:45 <+coil> (Note 3) The DVI-D port does not support D-Sub connection by adapter.
01:46 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2758
01:46 <@ShadowHntr> i have an lcd monitor with digital inputs :D
01:46 <+coil> i do too
01:47 <+coil> dell 20"w
01:48 <@ShadowHntr> viewsonic and samsung ftw
01:48 <@ShadowHntr> eizo too
01:48 <@ShadowHntr> :D
01:55 <+coil> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=956&num=6
01:56 <+coil> i've always trusted crucial ram
01:56 <+coil> patriot viper any good?
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03:02 <@dasunt> I think I need to go to bed.
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03:19 <@ShadowHntr> bloody comcast
03:19 <@ShadowHntr> :P
03:37 <+coil> DASNUT
03:38 <+coil> rum is good
03:38 <+coil> ShadowHntr: i ordered that ps
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> coil: the earthwatts?
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> good choice.
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> i have a 500w earthwatts
03:38 <+coil> ima hold off on the mobo and cpu
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> cool
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> i have seen
03:38 <+coil> and ram
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> if price is a big deal
03:38 <+coil> i dunno if i should get the good ram
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> desktop mobos that take Pentium M procs
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> :)
03:38 <+coil> or try this other ram
03:38 <@ShadowHntr> Crucial FTW :D
03:39 <+coil> yeah i know it's ftw
03:39 <+coil> but i wanna try this "patriot viper"
03:39 <+coil> cuz i'ts the only one that has the 2x2gb ram sticks
03:39 <@ShadowHntr> patriot makes good mem too
03:39 <+coil> with heatsinks :)
03:40 <+coil> i can proably oc it a little
03:40 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565
03:40 <@ShadowHntr> that's similar to what i have
03:40 <@ShadowHntr> i have Crucial Ballistix
03:40 <@ShadowHntr> 4 1GB sticks
03:40 <@ShadowHntr> DDR2-800
03:41 <+coil> the mobo supports 1100 ghz
03:41 <+coil> DDR2 1066
03:41 <+coil> sry
03:41 <@ShadowHntr> cool
03:41 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148070
03:45 <+coil> i want 4gb
03:45 <+coil> 2x2
03:46 <@ShadowHntr> can't have 4x1  ?
03:46 <+coil> i want 2x2
03:46 <@ShadowHntr> trying to keep it open for further expansion? or any other particular reason
03:46 <+coil> it wil probably be cheaper
03:46 <+coil> i only need 4gb
03:49 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148070
03:51 <@ShadowHntr> i have no clue why people give the product a bad rating if it's DOA
03:52 <+coil> lrn2pc
03:53 <@ShadowHntr> heh
03:53 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220228
03:54 <+coil> but i want the ones with heat sinks
03:54 <+coil> so i can oc
03:54 <@Dagmar> cuz it's _dead_
03:54 <@ShadowHntr> man
03:54 <@ShadowHntr> i don't have a need for overclocking anymore
03:54 <+coil> what's dead?
03:54 <+coil> ShadowHntr: no i just saw the reviews for some mbos
03:55 <+coil> and they were talking about how oc'able the mobo was
03:55 <+coil> so that got me into the mood to oc
03:55  * ShadowHntr is jammin' to Moby - Honey (MP3)
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> hey coil question
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> where you based
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> ATL?
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
03:55 <+coil> the great country of texas
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> awesome
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> what part of the state
03:55 <+coil> country :P
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> what*EVER*
03:55 <+coil> that alamo place
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> :P
03:55 <@ShadowHntr> lol
03:56 <+coil> forgot the name
03:56 <+coil> but i remember the alamo
03:56 <@ShadowHntr> forgot the city you live in?
03:56 <+coil> no
03:56 <@ShadowHntr> coil: didn't realize you were *that* old... ;)
03:56 <+coil> just making it difficult
03:56 <+coil> nope, it's those drugs
03:56 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
03:56 <@ShadowHntr> :D
03:56 <@ShadowHntr> speaking of drugs
03:56  * ShadowHntr takes his Wellbutrin
03:57 <+coil> no
03:57 <+coil> my ex had sexual side affects with that
03:57 <@ShadowHntr> i haven't
03:58 <@ShadowHntr> i've heard sexual side effects with Zoloft :P
03:58 <+coil> weird
03:58 <@ShadowHntr> my brother is on Prozac
03:58 <+coil> he had ed
03:58 <+coil> when on that
04:03 <@Dagmar> That's right, blame the pills.
04:04 <@ShadowHntr> hey coil
04:04 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098
04:04 <+coil> no it was Dagmar
04:04 <@ShadowHntr> these got customer choice for several months on newegg
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04:05 <+coil> wer
04:05 <+coil> d
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04:15 <@ShadowHntr> you're not larry !
04:15 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
04:15 <@ShadowHntr> i need to figure out who everyone here is so i can differentiate on facebook lol
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04:27 <+coil> nope
04:27 <+coil> im not on ur facespace
04:28 <@ShadowHntr> lol
04:28 <@ShadowHntr> myspace == prowlers
04:28 <@ShadowHntr> facebook is almost, but not quite like that from what i've seen... :P
04:28 <@ShadowHntr> but my friends were right
04:28 <@ShadowHntr> it is habit-forming.
04:29 <+coil> nope
04:29 <+coil> wutz ur face
04:31 <@ShadowHntr> ?
04:33 <+coil> s/face/facebook/g
04:40 <@ShadowHntr> alexander smith
04:40 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=894025556
05:00 <+coil> thats your name?
05:01 <@ShadowHntr> yes...
05:02 <+coil> hi alex!
05:02 <@ShadowHntr> hi there =)
05:02 <@ShadowHntr> that you?
05:03 <@ShadowHntr> scott?
05:03 <+coil> /whois coil
05:04 <@ShadowHntr> that doesn't tell me much
05:04 <@ShadowHntr> coil: wait - you in hsv or texas
05:04 <@ShadowHntr> :/
05:04 <+coil> tx
05:04 <@ShadowHntr> your profile says hsv
05:04 <+coil> i haven't updated the bullshit mysapce/facebook in ages
05:04 <@ShadowHntr> ahhhh
05:04 <+coil> wait, i think i upated myspace
05:04 <@ShadowHntr> that just confused me lol
05:04 <+coil> i used to live in al
05:05 <+coil> then i moved for a very dumbass reason
05:06 <+coil> /me definitely going to bed now
05:06 <@ShadowHntr> lol
05:06 <@ShadowHntr> a girl?
05:06 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
05:06 <+coil> no i dont like girls...
05:06 <@ShadowHntr> or a guy
05:06 <+coil> i mean, if a pussy present itself, ill fuck it
05:06 <@ShadowHntr> whatever floats your boat
05:06 <+coil> but i like...
05:07 <+coil> pillows...
05:08 <+coil> i think
05:08 <+coil> with this pay check
05:08 <+coil> ill pay off my balance
05:08 <+coil> and then max it out again :>
05:08 <+coil> (my cc)
05:09 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
05:09 <@ShadowHntr> pay it off
05:09 <@ShadowHntr> and give them enough time to report it paid in full to credit bureau
05:09 <@ShadowHntr> THEN max it out ;)
05:09 <+coil> i only owe like 200 something from last month
05:09 <+coil> it's not that bad
05:09 <+coil> i already paid off the other 500 balance
05:09 <@ShadowHntr> wish i had that little of a balance... :/
05:09 <+coil> (it only has a 750 limit)
05:09 <@ShadowHntr> a lack of job security has FUCKED over my credit.
05:10 <+coil> i tried to get it increased
05:10 <+coil> but it fails
05:10 <+coil> capital one is cool (automated credit limit increase)
05:10 <+coil> but it only worked once
05:10 <+coil> maybe ill try soon
05:10 <+coil> yay for credit and nothing is bad on my report
05:15 <@ShadowHntr> well i better get to bed too
05:15 <@ShadowHntr> gotta wake up and make it into nashville
05:15 <@ShadowHntr> almost an hr drive
05:15 <@ShadowHntr> west nashville
05:15 <+coil> fuck nashivll
05:16 <@ShadowHntr> pick up student loan check
05:16 <+coil> not BNA :P
05:16 <+coil> i need student loan
05:16 <+coil> so i can goto scholl
05:16  * coil snickers
05:16 <@ShadowHntr> fill out the fafsa
05:16 <@ShadowHntr> lol
05:16 <+coil> i need to
05:16 <+coil> my parents did the taxes
05:16 <+coil> so now i can work on it
05:16 <+coil> but i dont know if they field me as a dependent or not
05:16 <@ShadowHntr> damn you're only 20 yrs old?
05:16 <+coil> i might get free money if they didnt
05:16 <+coil> yeah
05:17 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
05:17 <+coil> ?
05:17 <@ShadowHntr> my bro is only 3 yrs younger than you
05:17 <@ShadowHntr> coil: maybe i haven't met you yet
05:17 <+coil> i dont associate myself with younger then me
05:17 <@ShadowHntr> or just don't remember from phreaknic
05:17 <+coil> im very much older then i really am (not on irc)
05:17 <+coil> i didn't go last time unfortunately
05:17 <@ShadowHntr> *really*
05:17 <+coil> i went pn8?
05:17 <@ShadowHntr> lol
05:18 <+coil> and 9
05:18 <@ShadowHntr> i first went to phreaknic for pnx
05:18 <+coil> i think
05:18 <+coil> i can't remember
05:18 <+coil> aww
05:18 <+coil> i want to goto oz
05:18 <+coil> but i dont know if i can drive all the way there
05:18 <@ShadowHntr> and you know who introduced me to the group and to phreaknic?
05:18 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon.
05:18 <+coil> who did that? i want to kill him for that
05:18 <+coil> er i mean
05:18 <@ShadowHntr> i was idling in the #asterisk channel and he pointed me here
05:18 <@ShadowHntr> lol
05:18 <+coil> well im glad he introduced you here
05:19 <+coil> too bad you're not gay :(
05:19 <@ShadowHntr> ROFL
05:19 <@ShadowHntr> i have two ex-roommates that are
05:19 <+coil> i need to find a gay geek
05:19 <@ShadowHntr> move out here and meet them ;)
05:19 <+coil> i thoght about it
05:19 <@ShadowHntr> too bad i can't convince him to take the time to learn linux more
05:19 <+coil> but let me stay at least a year in tx
05:19 <@ShadowHntr> he's played with it for a short time
05:19 <+coil> yeah i dont wann talk to him
05:19 <@ShadowHntr> why not
05:19 <+coil> i need to find someone that uses linux on a daily basis :P
05:20 <+coil> someoen i can understand
05:20 <@ShadowHntr> he got pretty familiar with HP-UX
05:20 <+coil> mmm rum
05:20 <@ShadowHntr> of course that's only cause our university mainframe is an HP 9000
05:20 <+coil> lame
05:20 <@ShadowHntr> *shrug*
05:20 <+coil> i need to find a school that has a degree i want to persue
05:20 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't like it cause all the libraries for compiling shit are in really weird places
05:20 <@ShadowHntr> http://uwf.edu/sahls/certificate-informatics/
05:21 <+coil> i dont wanna imagine
05:21 <+coil> im fine with apt-get and portinstall
05:21 <+coil> i cannot belive you broke my right click on link function
05:21 <@ShadowHntr> ?
05:21  * coil detaches
05:21 <@ShadowHntr> oh lol
05:23 <+coil> hi
05:23 <+coil> omg it works again
05:23 <+coil> yay for restart
05:23 <+coil> you live in florda?
05:23  * ShadowHntr grabs that newegg url to break it again ;)
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05:23 <@ShadowHntr> um... can't read my profile?
05:24 <@ShadowHntr> i live in nashville
05:24 <+coil> it's only if it breaks on two line
05:24 <+coil> nope, no speak inglias
05:24 <+coil> habla
05:24 <@ShadowHntr> i hope you'll forgive me if i say that i prefer Solaris over Linux (by the smallest of margins)
05:24 <+coil> i r mexicsan
05:24 <+coil> i never got to play with solaris
05:24 <@ShadowHntr> www.sun.com/solaris/
05:24 <@ShadowHntr> it's free
05:24 <@ShadowHntr> and being open sourced
05:24 <@ShadowHntr> in phases
05:25 <+coil> does it work on 32bit
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> www.opensolaris.org
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> yes
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> x86
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> quite well.
05:25 <+coil> werd
05:25 <+coil> ill install it when i get my new hardware
05:25 <+coil> :)
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> sweet
05:25 <+coil> not on trhat machine
05:25 <+coil> on the older one
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> i have it on SPARC
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> right now
05:25 <+coil> i wish i had sparc
05:25 <+coil> but meh
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> Sun Ultra 5 or Ultra 10
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> cheap
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> !
05:25 <@ShadowHntr> :D
05:26 <@ShadowHntr> run it headless and the performace is acceptable
05:26 <@Dagmar> Damnit
05:26 <@ShadowHntr> 270-440 mhz
05:26 <@ShadowHntr> mine is 440mhz, 512mb ram
05:26 <@Dagmar> There's five dents in the hood of my car from the frozen crap falling from the sky this weekend
05:27  * coil takes a frozen crap on Dagmar
05:27 <@ShadowHntr> well i better shove off
05:27 <@ShadowHntr> good talking to ya coil
05:27 <@ShadowHntr> cheers.
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05:27 <+coil> l8r
05:27 <+coil> fine then
05:27 <+coil> fuck you.
05:27 <@Dagmar> What pisses me off is the actual *hailstorm* we had a couple a months ago didn't do anything to it
05:27 <+coil> lawl
05:28 <+coil> im glad my car looks like a pos
05:28 <+coil> with lots of dents in it
05:28 <+coil> so i dont have to worry about that bullshit weather thingy
05:28 <+coil> AND it has full coverage
05:28 <+coil> im just waiting for someone to hit me in the front left corner (so i dont have to pay to repair that pole i hit)
05:35 <@Dagmar> Well, my car isn't exactly winning any awards for it's beauty.
05:36 <+coil> you gotta get that inner city look
05:36 <+coil> so no one will look twice at your car
05:36 <@Dagmar> That's what I've been cultivating.
05:36 <@Dagmar> I just don't like that the actual hailstorm didn't ding the thing at all, but this one definitely did
05:37 <+coil> even though i live in section 8 housing, i still have covered parking
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06:54 <@ladymerlin> coil why ar eyou in section 8?
07:08 <@sdodson> section 8?!
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07:29 <@I-MOD> http://www.woot.com
07:29 <@I-MOD> camera
07:29 <@I-MOD> not half bad
07:33 <@someninjamaster> http://xkcd.com/http://xkcd.com/
07:33 <@someninjamaster> doh
07:33 <@someninjamaster> http://xkcd.com/
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08:02 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
08:02 <@brimstone> and me
08:02 <@Dolemite> No, you were included in that greeting.
08:02 <@brimstone> says you
08:03 <@Dolemite> However, I do give you the choice of which of those two you are.
08:03 <@brimstone> i wanna be a "mr0ning"
08:04  * Dolemite marks brimstone's name under the category heading "Be0tch" with a Sharpie.
08:08 < ware> weee.
08:09 <@ladymerlin> whee
08:09 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch!
08:09 <@Dolemite> You finally out of that apartment in the 'boro?
08:09 < ware> yuh.
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08:11 <@Dolemite> Good.  Maybe on the next round of age compliance shops I can whore you out again.
08:11 < ware> werd
08:11 <@Dolemite> Now that the one on West End has opened hopefully we can snag that one day.
08:11 <@Dolemite> SkyDog and I went to Outback in Rivergate last night.
08:11 < ware> that'd be convenient
08:12 <@Dolemite> He was so hungry I had to keep him from gnawing his own arm off.
08:12 < ware> i was a stupid douchebag last night and stayed at the ex's
08:12  * ladymerlin smacks ware
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08:13 < ware> which you would think would net me some excersize and burned calories and general satisfaction
08:13 < ware> but only left me with no sleep and blue balls
08:13 < ware> yay for stupidity!
08:13 <@Dolemite> All it will net you is frustration
08:13 <@Dolemite> and a shitload more trouble
08:14 < ware> yeah
08:14 < ware> id like to run into a wall or fall off a cliff or something
08:15 <@Dolemite> Well Burgess Falls is pretty high up
08:15 <@Dolemite> speaking of which, I need to send out an email about that
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08:23  * Dolemite gives ware the tag-o-shame
08:24 <+ware> ssh on my box went down
08:24 <+ware> =O
08:24 <@brimstone> mah bad
08:24 <+ware> brimstone: better be something good this time, that 'midgets on wheels' torrent was crap!
08:26 <@someninjamaster> haha
08:27 <@Dolemite> I never did get a copy of that :(
08:28 <+ware> i did and it wasnt worth it
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09:00  * R3d2Dawn tip toeing quietly to not disturb the sleeping...
09:00  * R3d2Dawn whispering....anyone here
09:05 <@I-MOD> nope
09:05 <@I-MOD> now sound off like you've got a pair
09:06 < ware> rofl
09:07 < R3d2Dawn> I would sound off a cadence from boot camp in the days...but may offend the ladies in the house
09:07 <@Dolemite> ladies?  heh.
09:09 < ware> yeah...
09:09 < ware> only thing close to a lady here is Corydon
09:09 <@Dolemite> oh, sorry ware, didn't see you back in here.  I guess he was right.
09:10 < ware> NOPE I PUT THE JOKE ON TILGHMAN FIRST SORRY TRY AGAIN THNX
09:10 <@ladymerlin> um
09:10 < ware> ladymerlin: youre teh bomb hax0r
09:10 <@ladymerlin> hey ware i need to copy your ds roms
09:11 < ware> did ya get a card reader finally?
09:11 <@ladymerlin> not yet lol
09:11 <@ladymerlin> but i will shortly
09:11 < ware> okie get one before OZ
09:11 <@ladymerlin> k
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09:13 <@oddball> You know what would be nice? My boss checking her email more than once every 4 hours.
09:18 <@rhia> oddball: you're such an idealistic dreamer
09:20 <@oddball> yeah, I know.
09:30 <@Dolemite> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/03/10/dnt.ok.lawmaker.anti.gay.kwtv
09:30 <@Dolemite> Oh noez!  Teh gays are worse than TERRARists!
09:31 <@sdodson> well, duh
09:31 <@sdodson> I told you guys that five years ago.
09:32 <@Dolemite> I'm more scared of corydon than someone with a towel on their head
09:32 <@sdodson> Me too.
09:34 <@oddball> I have to say I'm impressed that she didn't back down on her statements when the cameras were pointed at her.  That said, she's still a fucktard.
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09:35 < ware> hahaha most disturbing mental image of Corydon in a turban
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09:35 <@Dolemite> most disturbing image of corydon wearing a towel on his head...  and nothing else
09:40 < ware> lol
09:41 < ware> BLAH i want to go back to sleep
09:41 < ware> mondays are dumb.
09:41 < ware> why didnt the time change happen today at noon
09:41 < ware> that would have been alot bette
09:41 < ware> r
09:42 < ware> 8 Corydon76-dig "Yaoi isn't good... it's fucking awesome"
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09:46 <@Dolemite> ware : Because then some people wouldn't get a lunch hour!
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09:51 <@Dagmar> rattle: Darn Cyan for having quick beta testers
09:51 < ware> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20080227
09:51 <@Dagmar> There was a problem with the thumbnail alg their site was using,  but someone fixed it to use a "proper" one before I could email them about it
09:52 <@SkyDog_> Morning All.
09:52  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
09:53 <@rattle> Dagmar:  Eh?
09:53 <@rattle> Oh..  Heh.
09:53 <@rattle> Yeah.  It seems her team is pretty tight.
09:54 <@Dagmar> hey you wouldn't happen to knwo of some magic thing in tar ...ooo
09:54 <@Dagmar> I think I just figured it out
09:54 <@Dagmar> Maybe
09:54 <@Dolemite> ok, time for my meeting
09:54 <@Dolemite> later, kids
09:54  * brimstone is on the edge of his seat
09:54 <@brimstone> did you find the magic in tar Dagmar?
09:54 <@Dagmar> I've been trying to figure out if there's some way I can put a gnupg signature *inline* with tar without breaking everything
09:55 <@brimstone> tack it to the end?
09:55 <@Dagmar> I MIGHT be able to cheat things and call the external decompressor
09:55 <@Dagmar> brimstone: I'm pretty sure that won't work
09:55 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling tar would just carp about the junk being added to the file
09:56 <@brimstone> don't know till you try
09:56 <@Dagmar> Hmm... you ave a poing
09:56 <@brimstone> that's the fun of software, you can experiment and no one ends up pregneant
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09:58 <@Dagmar> Yeah, except gnupg seems to default to detached signatures now
09:59 <@Dagmar> Okay, that fails for sure, for the reasons I thought it was going o
09:59 <@brimstone> tar doesn't like junk in it's trunk?
10:00 <@brimstone> squashfs is ok with crap at it's tail
10:00 <@Dagmar> squashfs isn't tar
10:00 <@brimstone> no it's not
10:00 <@Dagmar> Besides which, gnupg won't just append a signature to the end of a file
10:02 <@Dagmar> It took some "doing" but I worked out the invocation (and wrote some bash functions) so that I can use a specific keyring stashed elsewhere on the filesystem
10:04 <@Dagmar> Everything keeps leading back to resource forks on filesystems actually being useful for this, but then it would be an entirely cosmetic issue
10:06 <@Dagmar> About as close as one can get that I can see amounts to
10:07 <@Dagmar> er amounts to just storing the signature in the tarball as just another file, but that's nowhere *near* the solution it would need to be.
10:42 < ware> GOD ANNOYING CUNTS @ WORK FTL
10:43 <@brimstone> simmer...
10:45 <@Shadow_Phone> hes an angry german child
10:45 <@Shadow_Phone> and his mom didnt breast feed him
10:46 <@Shadow_Phone> so hes had this feeling of neglect his whole life
11:00 <@oddball> looks like ware is having a good day
11:01 <@Shadow_Phone> like i said "angry german kid syndrome"
11:03 <@Shadow_Phone> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBVmfIUR1DA
11:15 < R3d2Dawn> rotfla
11:15 < R3d2Dawn> Damn
11:16 <@oddball> someone needs to shoot that kid with a tranq dart
11:16 < R3d2Dawn> I just want to know who was actually recording this
11:17 < R3d2Dawn> Damn, This must be Hitlers off spring
11:17 < R3d2Dawn> or him reincarnated
11:18 < R3d2Dawn> If that was my kid, his ass would of been out the door
11:19 < R3d2Dawn> with the keyboard upside his head
11:21 <@oddball> R3d2Dawn: read the whole discription of the video
11:23 <@Dagmar> Haloperitol
11:23 <@Dagmar> He needs it
11:26 <@Dagmar> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/07/funny-pictures-yup-im-in-hell/
11:29 <@Shadow_Phone> nice
11:29 <@Shadow_Phone> http://i31.tinypic.com/af7ihj.jpg
11:31 < ware> thats why i quit playing counter-strike
11:33 <@Shadow_Phone> Dr's orders?
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11:47 <@Dagmar> oddball: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8636309&st=resident+evil&type=product&id=1783627
11:47 <@Dagmar> "Resident Evil: Extinction Army Tote - DVD"
11:47 <@Dagmar> $6.99
11:47 <@Dagmar> Sounds like a hell of a reason to buy a DVD to me
11:47 <@oddball> yup
11:48 <@Dagmar> They need to bring back their $3.99 DVD specials
11:48 <@Dagmar> I was really enjoying those
11:52 <@oddball> I'm guessing the tote is just the tote (not also the DVD)
11:52 <@Dagmar> Could be
11:52 <@Dagmar> Either way, for $7 who cares.
11:53 <@oddball> heh
11:53  * oddball bangs his head against his desk
11:53 <@Dagmar> ?
11:54 <@oddball> I just got a request to set up some shortcuts for a new employee... but no info where her office is going to be
11:55 <@oddball> also, I ask for contact info for x, and get a response of "just email them."
11:55 <@oddball> ok... WHAT THE FUCK IS THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS!
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12:00  * Dementia pats oddball on the head
12:00 < ware> oddball: there ya go! thats the true IT spirit
12:00 < ware> i love getting pissed off at ignorants at work
12:00 <@oddball> so, I should start hitting people with my kayboard?
12:01 <@oddball> s/kayboard/keyboard
12:01 <@Dementia> as long as it's a model M
12:01 <@oddball> all we have are those slim ones that Dell packs with their desktops
12:01 <@Dementia> bah. those won't do any real damage
12:02  * oddball reminds himself that he has Smash Bros Brawl waiting for him at home
12:02 < ware> oOo for the wii?
12:03 <@oddball> no... for the atari
12:03 <@Dementia> even better
12:03 < ware> i thought it was coming out soon but didnt know if it was released yet
12:03 <@oddball> released yesterday
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12:08 <@Dagmar> Joy
12:08 <@Dagmar> Sprint thinks I owe them $9.74 for the last month.
12:08 <@Dagmar> I wonder if I'll be able to hold them to that.
12:09 <@Dagmar> For all the bullshit they've put me through the last six months, it's about time they screwed up in my favor.
12:09 <@sdodson> Amazing how they never do that.
12:10 <@Dagmar> Hell, it's amazing they can get bills out the door at all
12:10 <@Dagmar> That business last month with them basically _disabling_ the billing department for a week, that's just unprecedented.
12:10 <@oddball> wait... what?
12:10 <@Dagmar> I've got like NINE emails in my inbox with them saying that "due to a problem with my web request" they were going to have a CS rep call me
12:10 <@sdodson> I'm sure that happens more frequently than you imagine.
12:11 <@Dagmar> ...which of course were followed up by a QA survey request to which I responded "They didn't call me"
12:11 <@Dagmar> ...which got me ANOTHER email saying "We'll have a CS rep call you in the next three days to straighten it out"
12:11 < ware> ive paid cingular around $300 the past 4 months for a broken cell phone
12:11 < ware> cause im a lazy dumbass
12:11 <@ladymerlin> thats your own fault for not gettign it fixed
12:11 < ware> rofl
12:11 <@Dagmar> I am considering calling them up and asking them if they even know what cell plan I have
12:11 < ware> its been riding around in the back of my car
12:11 <@Dagmar> I don't think they do.
12:12 <@oddball> Dagmar: I would have thought that you would have realized that Sprint doesn't give a shit about CS
12:12 <@Dagmar> oddball: I'm used to cell providers not giving a damn about customers
12:12 <@Dagmar> What I'm not used to is the "can't find their ass with both hands" problem
12:12 <@oddball> sorry... Sprint can't do that either
12:13 <@Dementia> I've had good luck with verizon so far.
12:13 <@Dagmar> They could before the Nextel merger
12:13 <@Dagmar> Dementia: Good luck getting that to work on this Campus tho
12:13 <@oddball> I had good luck with Verizon, and I've been happy so far with AT&T
12:14 <@oddball> Verizon works on capus as long as you're not in the server room
12:14 <@sdodson> is Dementia at Univ of Chicago?
12:14  * sdodson can't remember
12:14 <@Dementia> True. But it's pretty unlikely I'll be on the vandy campus anytime soon
12:15 <@oddball> she's in Chicago, but not at the University
12:15 <@Dementia> No going back to college for me, thanks
12:16 <@Dagmar> Come on
12:16 <@Dagmar> Coeds are an important part of the diet
12:16 <@sdodson> is univ of chicago one of those online dealies?
12:16 <@sdodson> yay, my office is on campus
12:17 <@Dementia> No, U of Chicago has a real campus.
12:18 <@Dementia> Sad to say I haven't explored much of Chicago yet, since it's been so bloody cold and snowy. I'm hoping that will be remedied in a month or two.
12:20 <@Evilpig> lol Dementia and a college student.
12:20 <@Evilpig> poor poor college student would get chewed up and spit out on the sidewalk
12:20 <@Dementia> I can't argue that.
12:22 <@Dagmar> whoohoo!
12:22 <@Dagmar> I'm banned from ##Slackware
12:22 <@Dagmar> ...for insisting on factual accuracy.
12:22  * oddball hands Dagmar a gold star
12:22 <@Dagmar> Specifically: One of the chanops made a claim that Linux viruses were not a minority
12:22 <@Dagmar> ...over on LinuxQuestions.
12:22 <@Dagmar> I was nice about it.
12:22 <@Dagmar> That's *over* now.
12:23 < ware> banned from ##SLACKWARE?! OH SHIT
12:23  * ware joins and trolls
12:24 <@Dagmar> Oh yeah, I'm probably going to *not* go back in there regardless of whether or not a sane op lifts the ban without some form of assurance that Wigglit won't go psycho again
12:24 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: im banned from other channel
12:24 <@Dagmar> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-security-4/how-safe-is-browsing-with-linux-624484/
12:24 <@Dagmar> I was really polite about that, but the dude just doesn't seem to be able to manage posting lucidly.
12:27 < ware> bleh
12:27 < ware> gotta goto lunch
12:30 <@sdodson> oh no!
12:30 <@sdodson> linuzquestions.org seems fairly weak, why you slumming there?
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13:08 <@brimstone> anyone have any common practices for domain names for machines and services?
13:09 <@brimstone> like, ftp. points to <system name>.hq. ?
13:09 <@dc0de> brimstone, I've used cost center number and a device ID# in the past...
13:09 <@dc0de> then simply made dns pointers to the device name.
13:10 <@dc0de> so we'd end up with srv1011-213.company.com as the actual hostname
13:10 <@brimstone> yeah, someone was even talking about service names point to machinename-interface, etc
13:10 <@dc0de> then we'd point a cname like www to srv10110-213.company.com
13:11 <@brimstone> you can't have a cname point to multiple machines though :(
13:11 <@dc0de> it worked out well, since most end users would never connect to a system name.
13:12 <@dc0de> brimstone, no, but if you use load balancers you can.
13:12 <@brimstone> yeah, most end users never connect to system name
13:12 <@brimstone> i want to get away from that
13:12 <@dc0de> or point them to the Static nat'd ip addresses
13:12 <@dc0de> load balancing?
13:12 <@dc0de> you want to move away from that?
13:12 <@brimstone> no, "Sales drive is on //machine name"
13:12 <@dc0de> Oh, windows environment?
13:12 <@brimstone> sales drive should be on //fileserver/sales for example
13:12 <@brimstone> it's mixed
13:13 <@dc0de> well, if it's windows, then publish a network share...
13:13 <@brimstone> also, www. externally should hit both of our colos, incase one goes down
13:13 <@dc0de> \\domainname\sharename
13:14 <@brimstone> that's another thing, should i have one windows domain for each location, hq, cali, etc, or one for the whole company?
13:14 <@dc0de> You should have ONE forest...
13:14 <@dc0de> and then you can have one or more domains...
13:14 <@dc0de> it depends on how it's going to be administered.
13:14 <@brimstone> one group all based out of AL
13:15 <@dc0de> are you going to distribute the administration out to other sites?
13:15 <@brimstone> the CA guys will probably want to run their own domain server
13:15 <@dc0de> CA?
13:15 <@brimstone> but that's all a game of politics
13:15 <@brimstone> california
13:15 <@dc0de> pffft
13:15 <@dc0de> use one domain, that way you don't have any issues with BCP and DR.
13:15 <@dc0de> you can have the AD replicated across the country.
13:16 <@brimstone> BCP? DR? (pepper?)
13:16 <@dc0de> heh.
13:16 <@dc0de> Business Continuity Plan and Disaster Recovery.
13:16 <@brimstone> ah, those ol' things
13:16 <+coil> i brimstone
13:16 <+coil> hI*
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13:17 <@dc0de> brimstone, yeah, but great business drivers to quash a bunch of political quarreling.
13:17 <@brimstone> yeah
13:17 <@brimstone> hi coil
13:17 <@brimstone> i understand www. for webservers, ftp. for ftp servers, pdc.comany.com then?
13:18 <+coil> yes
13:18 <@dc0de> brimstone, you don't need to create cnames for pdc's or non-application stuff.
13:18 <@dc0de> if you simply let the machine name be whatever, it'll be auto updated in the MS-DNS when the machine is online.
13:19 <@dc0de> then ONLY if you need to point people at the services specifically, then create a cname.
13:19 <@brimstone> so i would join machines to AL-15.company.com?
13:19 <@dc0de> is AL-15 the hostname?
13:19 <@brimstone> according to location, machine ID# it is
13:19 <@dc0de> yes, because what happens when you remove FTP from that machine, and make it a mail server?
13:20 <@dc0de> do you want to change the hostname?
13:20 <@dc0de> what do you call it if it has www and ftp on it?
13:20 <@brimstone> not really
13:20 <@brimstone> i dunno
13:20 <@dc0de> that way, if you remove the Functional reference from the naming convention, you can use DNS to provide you with the capability to have functional references.
13:21 <@brimstone> service. is a CNAME to server.
13:21 <@dc0de> right
13:21 <@dc0de> more specifically, service is a cname to a hostname
13:21 <@brimstone> ok, that makes sense for what we're doing now with www, ftp, etc
13:22 <@brimstone> but we're moving to push all our windows users onto a domain, do i just join them to hostname.company.com then?
13:22 <@brimstone> not pdc.company.com that's a CNAME to hostname. ?
13:22 <@dc0de> your windows domain will have a dns domain associated with it, so yes.
13:22 <+coil> "windows users"?
13:23 <@dc0de> pdc would be a CNAME to a hostname ---> pdc == AL-15.company.com (for instance)
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13:24 <@brimstone> so i would want to make pdc.company.com?
13:24 <@dc0de> I don't see a reason to make a CNAME to "pdc"...
13:24 <@dc0de> there isn't any need from a windows networking and communication standpoint.
13:24 <@brimstone> ok, that's what i'm trying to figure out
13:25 <@dc0de> because with Active Directory, there really isn't a "dedicated" PDC anymore...
13:25 <@brimstone> no, just a domain/system management point
13:25 <@brimstone> we're not using a windows server for our domain stuff, we're using samba+ldap
13:25 <@dc0de> the databases are distributed amongst all AD Servers, and "PDC" is simply a role now.
13:25 <@dc0de> ahh, not sure then.
13:26 <@brimstone> samba+ldap provides a pdc at best
13:26 <@brimstone> samba4 is more AD centric
13:26 <@dc0de> right, but I'm not sure what functions the samba4 server has...
13:27 <@brimstone> whatever they are, they're alpha and we're not using them
13:27 <+coil> samba4?
13:27 <+MxZBot> samba4 is more AD centric
13:27 <@brimstone> MxZBot: forget samba4
13:27 <+MxZBot> brimstone: i forgot samba4
13:28 <@dc0de> samba4 is what brimstone's not using
13:28 <@brimstone> MxZBot: forget brimstone
13:28 <@brimstone> righto
13:29 <@dc0de> brimstone?
13:29 <+MxZBot> brimstone are all the hsv guys piled into a car like circus clowns with their heads sticking out?
13:29 <@brimstone> :(
13:29 <@dc0de> heh.
13:29 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de?
13:29 <+MxZBot> dc0de is mostly a nice guy, or prone to grabbing his firearms when provoked...
13:29 <@dc0de> or?
13:29 <@dc0de> AND@!! dammit!
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13:43 < ware> Dagmar: lol they are gettin agitated
13:44  * coil gets annoyed at face
13:44  * coil gets annoyed at facebook
13:44 <@Shadow_Phone> coil: whats wrong?
13:44 <+coil> what the FUCK is with all these different kinds of invitations and requests
13:44 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, those are annoying
13:44 <@Shadow_Phone> spam requests
13:45 <+coil> people keep inviting me to teh same thing
13:45 < ware> 13:45 ��     ware  was kicked from ##slackware by slackboy (Banned)
13:45 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
13:45 <+coil> why troll slackware?
13:46 < ware> cause Dagmar > you
13:46 <+coil> ?
13:46 <@Shadow_Phone> why ban shadow_phone from ware?
13:46 <+coil> ware is penis
13:46 <@Shadow_Phone> ware is super penis
13:46 <+coil> cuz he doesn't have one
13:46 <@Shadow_Phone> aye he has breasticles
13:46 < ware> cause Shadow was being a dick about something stupid and wouldnt let it go
13:48  * Shadow_Phone goes back to design work of arts with ms paint
13:48 <@Shadow_Phone> you mean like that?
13:49 < ware> when your vagina stops hurting and you quit rubbin it you can come back
13:50 <@Shadow_Phone> il probably be busy with ms paint
13:51 <+coil> stfu all
13:54 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de: any chance you gonna be in atlanta this week?
14:05 <@dc0de> Nope, going to camp with my son...
14:06 <+coil> band camp?
14:06 <@Shadow_Phone> damn, ok
14:07 <@rattle> I'm looking forward to outerz0ne.
14:08 <@rattle> This is a good month for weekend warrior activities..  Past two weekends I've been in NYC, this weekend my gf is visiting, next weekend Atlanta, weekend after that Texas for gamgee's wedding.  fun fun fun
14:14 <@sdodson> rattle's battle cries can be heard in the latest version of the loose change video
14:23 <+coil> rattle: what part of texass?
14:24 <@rattle> Fredericksburg, just outside Austin.
14:25 <@Dolemite> I'm assuming that gamgee isn't marrying Antimony.
14:25  * rattle has a strange emotional reaction.
14:25 <@rattle> NO
14:25 <@rattle> no non o
14:25 <@Dolemite> Good deal.
14:26 <@Dolemite> I only met him a few times, but he was way too nice for a tramp like her.
14:26 <@rattle> He is marrying a girl he met in law school.  http://www.chrisandwynne.com/
14:26 <@rattle> Totally.  Chris is really an awesome guy.
14:27 <@rattle> I'm really happy for him and Wynne.  I've met her, and she is really nice.  They are a good match.
14:27 <@Dolemite> Oh mah gawd.  He's marrying Fleetwood Mac.
14:27 <@rattle> HAHA
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15:39 < ware> http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f268/CrysThomas8/fat.jpg
15:48 <@brimstone> whoo!!
15:48 <@brimstone> You were issued 25 points and you now have 25 points in total.
15:48 <@brimstone> thanks coil_
15:48 <@brimstone> damn lag
15:48 <@brimstone> thanks Corydon76-dig!
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16:22 <@Evilpig> skytubby: ping
16:32 <@SkyDog_> pong, fucker.
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16:49 <@ShadowHntr> wilpig: almost read your domain name as iscsi.com lol
16:49 <@ShadowHntr> :)
16:49 <@wilpig> umm k.
16:49 <@wilpig> just testing out this imspector thing to see how it grabs irc traffic
16:50 <@wilpig> pretty neat really
16:51 <@brimstone> http://dayofawesomeness.com/
16:53 <@wilpig> I swear to god.  you get skytubby at a keyboard for like 5 seconds then he spaces out and gets lost
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16:59 <@Evilpig> wtf?  the evil lives?
17:00 <@Evilpig> who the hell spoke its name?
17:00 <@I-MOD> sorry
17:00 <@I-MOD> my bad
17:00 <@ShadowHntr> lol
17:02 <@Evilpig> that couldn't have been the real one.  it didn't speak all day or I still have it on ignore
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17:52 <@ladymerlin> whee
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18:13  * someninjaserver yawns
18:16 <@sdodson> hi
18:17 <@dc0de> hi
18:18 <@sdodson> hi Deezc0dez!
18:21 < mtown_nerd> Hello, all.  :)
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19:01 <@Shadow_Phone> !minicity
19:02 <@brimstone> Population: 21166 Revenues: 4933900 Unemployment: 0% Transports: 100% Criminality: 1% Pollution: 0% 4289 ahead of beltegueuse
19:04 <@someninjaserver> w00t
19:07 <@Shadow_Phone> aye
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20:55 < wontonjoe> im bummed
20:57 <@sdodson> wontonjoe: why?
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21:19 <@sdodson> http://www.flickr.com/photos/thesweetchuck/2275749694/
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22:03 <@brimstone> ride the wave!
22:10 <@sdodson> rave?
22:11 <@sdodson> Prostitute Admits Link to Elliott Spitzer; Resigns From Escort Service in Disgrace.
22:12 <@someninjamaster> haha
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22:22 <@dc0de> Soon, we'll be able to hack wifi in space!   http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3408002&c=AME&s=AIR
22:23 < cwire> wifi race of the future!
22:26 <@dc0de> nice!
22:26 <@dc0de> hey, you don't need your id anymore to fly!
22:27 <@dc0de> just get your hands on one of the 100 missing FAA credentials... and you can do whatever you want!
22:27 <@dc0de> http://www.wcbd.com/midatlantic/cbd/news.apx.-content-articles-CBD-2008-03-06-0012.html
22:36 <@Mirage> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/den/588567246.html
22:54 <@Catonic> sdodson: is it possible for an escort to resign in disgrace?
22:58 <@buu> Mirage: Is that really a "Best of"?
22:58 <@buu> That's kinda dumb.
23:01 <@Mirage> Well, I don't choose what's a 'Best of..,' though I thought it was amusing
23:01 <@dc0de> heh... this is NSF, but funny as hell...
23:01 <@dc0de> http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/561877622.html
23:02 <@Mirage> Yeah, I almost posted that one too, but I figured people would find it themselves.
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23:09 < R3d2Dawn> Question for windows users what your firewall of choice?
23:09 <@Catonic> avg
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23:10 <@Mirage> an upstream *nix box
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23:14 <@buu> Mirage: Well, I mean, it seems too obvious for words =/
23:14 <@buu> Mirage: If men were in such high demand of course they'd write ads like that.
23:17 <@sdodson> I really hate the term *nix
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23:17 <@sdodson> Especially being that each *nix has dramatically varied firewall implementations.
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23:21 <@Mirage> OK, OpenBSD or FreeBSD with pf and/or ipfw2
23:21 <@Mirage> better?
23:21 <+MxZBot> better is debatable.
23:22  * sdodson pats MxZBot on the head
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23:38  * dc0de is away: off to bed.
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