--- Log opened Mon Mar 03 00:00:35 2008 00:25 * dasunt listens to Scorpions. 00:25 <+coil> HERE I AM 00:26 <+coil> ROCK YOU LIKE A HURRICANE 00:26 <@dasunt> Holiday, actually. 00:26 <+coil> no dasunt 00:37 * dasunt dies. 00:37 <+coil> dasunt: holy shit i can smell the weed 00:38 <+coil> lol i mixed everclear and triplesec 00:39 <@dasunt> Fucker. 00:39 <@dasunt> I want some! 00:39 <+coil> and this is the one from where i poured the everclear in a bag that had really good weed in it 00:39 <+coil> and extracted out all the crystals that were on the bag 00:42 <@dasunt> I'm bleh lately. 00:59 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 00:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 01:09 <+coil> who needs mixers dasunt 01:10 <+coil> all i need is ethanol and hydrogen oxide 01:42 <@dasunt> I turn inwards. 01:42 <@dasunt> And I bleed. 01:42 <@dasunt> All over the intarwebs. 01:43 <+coil> ? 01:59 <@dasunt> Okay, I hate linux zealots. 01:59 <@dasunt> I'm trying to explain how hypothetically you don't need root access to spread viruses on the linux platform. 02:00 <+coil> k 02:00 <+coil> explain it so i can not understand 02:00 <+coil> lol 02:00 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 02:01 <@dasunt> I wish I couldd send down the lightning on IRC users. 02:01 <+coil> dasunt: pastebin 02:01 <@dasunt> Oh, its simple. 02:01 <@dasunt> 1. You can mass-mail as a non-root user. 02:02 <@dasunt> 2. If linux had stupid users as a general rule, get the idiots to install a non-root trojan to their local accounts. 02:02 <+coil> oh werd 02:03 <+coil> makes sense....but im crunk 02:16 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Perhaps you should become familiar with how easy it is to find and stomp Linux 02:16 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Perhaps you should become familiar with how easy it is to find and stomp Linux "viruses" when they've not gained root privs 02:16 <@Dagmar> ...or go read the docs to AppArmor 02:16 <@Dagmar> Windows simply does not have these tools. 02:16 <+coil> apparmor? 02:17 <+coil> apt-get install apparmor? 02:17 <@Dagmar> Sure why the fuck not. It won't do a damn thing until it's configured 02:17 <@dasunt> Dagmar: It is easy. OTOH, it is also easy to update windows with the latest security patches. 02:17 <+coil> windows? 02:17 <+MxZBot> windows is the sux 02:17 <+coil> what's windows? 02:17 <@dasunt> Idiot users are a big reason why viruses are so common. 02:17 <+coil> oh that thing i dont use? 02:17 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Excepting that Microsoft sits on those for a half month at minumum, two months on average 02:18 <@dasunt> Dagmar: While 0-day 'ploits do happen, they aren't that common. 02:18 <@Dagmar> You jackasses seem to think that computers on the internet is a fucking new thing 02:18 <@Dagmar> Let's get some shit straight, right now 02:18 <@dasunt> AFAIK, most of the current windoze virus infections are from holes that were patched quite awhile ago. 02:18 <+coil> Dagmar: im drunker then hou 02:18 <+coil> you 02:18 <+coil> so fuk yu 02:18 <@Dagmar> fucking TEN YEARS ago, Linux users were blazing away at each other trying to take over fucking IRC channels 02:19 <@Dagmar> If Linux were as insecure as Windows, shit would have been a lot worse than it was 02:19 <@Dagmar> So get the fucking clue already 02:19 <@dasunt> I'm not saying linux is as insecure as windows. 02:19 <@Dagmar> All things are equal only when you're not smart enough to see any of them accurately 02:19 <@dasunt> I'm saying that you don't need root to have a successful virus. 02:19 <@Dagmar> That depends on how you define "successful" 02:19 <+coil> Dagmar: is that why you aren't suppost to login to irc as root? 02:20 <@dasunt> I define it as being able to propogate itself. 02:20 <@dasunt> Through user interaction or not. 02:20 <@Dagmar> The matter remains, however, that we have a heterogenous platform, unlike Windows 02:20 <@dasunt> Yep, and smarter users. 02:21 <@Dagmar> ...or at least craptons more heterogeny 02:21 <@dasunt> Windows is homogenous and has idiot users. 02:21 <@dasunt> That's what kills it. 02:21 <@dasunt> The abysmal windows security doesn't help, but it isn't necessary. 02:21 <@Dagmar> Windows has a shit security model, which is a large part of their problem 02:21 <@Dagmar> Vista doesn't really do dick in that respect 02:21 <@dasunt> Vista did try a bit. 02:21 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-070-157-244-077.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 02:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 02:21 <@Dagmar> All of Vista's security is about "securing" the rights of large companies 02:22 <@dasunt> Then the vendors balked. 02:22 <@Dagmar> That's the only reason what's in there is in there. 02:22 <@Dagmar> Anyway. I NEEDS FUD. 02:22 <@Dagmar> bak sun 02:22 <@dasunt> Btw, Intel, you suck. 02:22 <@dasunt> Congrats on bitching enough about selling your 915 chipset to Microsoft. 02:22 <@dasunt> You've made "Vista capable" stickers damn near worthless. 02:29 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:55 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 06:25 <@Dagmar> No, Microsoft made those stickers worthless 06:27 -!- nightcarnag1 [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 06:31 -!- nightcarnag1 [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:32 -!- nightcarnag1 [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 06:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 07:27 -!- MudFlap [n=asdf@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 07:40 <@dc0de> that's why there's a class action lawsuit on "Vista Capable" 07:40 <@GodFix> a lawsuit over a sticker? what did I miss? 07:41 <@dc0de> jfgi 07:42 <@dc0de> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/310004_msftsued03.html 07:42 <@dc0de> "In sum, Microsoft engaged in bait and switch -- assuring consumers they were purchasing 'Vista Capable' machines when, in fact, they could obtain only a stripped-down operating system lacking the functionality and features that Microsoft advertised as 'Vista,' " the complaint says. As a result, the suit said, people were buying machines that couldn't run "the real Vista." 07:43 <@dc0de> The suit also alleges that Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates contributed to the company's "deceptive marketing" during a Jan. 29 appearance on the "Today" show, when he said that PC users could upgrade to Windows Vista for less than $100. 07:44 <@rattle> Morning all.. 07:44 <@dc0de> http://gizmodo.com/361123/vista-capable-sticker-lawsuit-becomes-class-action 07:44 <@dc0de> mr0nin 07:53 <@rattle> Something on CNN about a school bus flipping over outside Atlanta. 07:53 <@rattle> Two children critically injured.. 07:53 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:06 <@dc0de> off to work 08:06 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:06 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:08 -!- lone_wolf [n=lone_wol@74-138-214-128.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #se2600 08:09 -!- lone_wolf [n=lone_wol@74-138-214-128.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #se2600 ["Fisting."] 08:16 -!- nightcarnag1 [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:16 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 08:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 08:17 -!- nightcarnag1 [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:17 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 08:28 <@seeblind> morning everybody 08:30 <@rhia> http://www.wsbtv.com/news/15471467/detail.html?eref=time_us 08:31 <@tzanger> rhia: eek 08:33 <@rhia> rattle had mentioned it earlier, 08:33 -!- nightcarnag1 [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:35 <@rhia> we had this happen Friday: 08:35 <@rhia> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/DN-twodead_28met.ART.State.Edition1.46ac05f.html 08:35 <@rhia> ~minilink 08:35 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/dallasnews.com/6hYD7.html 08:49 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch : Did you finish getting moved this weekend? 08:51 -!- bjablonsky [n=bjablons@68-119-82-182.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 08:55 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 08:57 * Catonic files textual harrassment charges 08:57 <@SkyDog_> yeah ware, did you finish moving?!? 08:59 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : In case the HC needs a "buying club membership", that shop is posted again... 08:59 < ware> h0 sn4p! 09:03 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch : Did you finish getting moved this weekend? 09:06 <@SkyDog_> http://www.hackerconsortium.com/WeLoveWare.jpg 09:07 < ware> no i didnt 09:08 <@SkyDog_> WHAT? 09:08 < ware> i was sickly yesterday and didnt do anything 09:08 <@SkyDog_> Dude. Seriously. How much shit can you own? 09:08 < ware> i moved on saturday 09:08 <@SkyDog_> what about saturday? 09:08 < ware> im a lazy son of abitch 09:08 < ware> i made 2 trips on saturday 09:08 <@Dolemite> Only 2? 09:08 < ware> only 2 09:08 <@Dolemite> I'm a fat old mother fucker and I make more trips than that when moving. 09:08 <@Dolemite> We're just going to pile the rest of your shit up and light it on fire. 09:09 < ware> yeah but im lazy 09:09 <@ladymerlin> love the link lol 09:09 < ware> haha ive thrown away just about as much as i have moved 09:09 < ware> haha nice pic :P 09:15 <@Catonic> Dolemite: you make more than two trips just haulling ass... 09:24 <@Dolemite> Ok, here's a flight I would NOT want to have been on... 09:24 <@Dolemite> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/03/03/germany.plane/index.html 09:24 <@Dolemite> That is some STRONG wind 09:27 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 09:27 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:28 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 09:28 <@Evilpig> I am seriously fuckin' tired this morning 09:30 < ware> hehe listed my motorcycle on craigslist 30 min ago and already got someone to buy it 09:31 <@Dolemite> You're selling your bike? 09:32 < ware> yeah i have a broke ass car and no money 09:32 < ware> im driving my parents at the moment 09:33 < ware> the transmission went out in mine last weekend, wont shift past 2nd gear 09:33 < ware> so i drove it 40mph from murfreesboro to lebanon to my parents house 09:33 <@Dolemite> you should have junked the car and kept the bike 09:34 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:34 < oddball_> ware: what is this busted car? 09:34 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : I heard on the radio that you've been bribing the governor, again. 09:35 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, this is illinois, we can't have an honest governor. It's in the state constitution 09:36 <@nachoguy> shit, I think the past 4 have all gone to court, prison, or at least had some major corruption shadows hanging over their heads 09:36 -!- unixfag [i=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 09:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 09:37 <@nachoguy> I'll be happy to see blag-o-jagoff go to jail 09:38 < ware> whelp 09:38 < ware> someones coming to lookat it this afternoon 09:38 -!- oddball_ is now known as oddball 09:38 < ware> guess i should fix the vibration with the gas tank lol 09:39 < oddball> ware: again, what car do you have that has a busted tranny? 09:40 < ware> 97 mazda millenia 09:41 < ware> i priced transmissions in mid tn and they were 350-500$ 09:41 < oddball> are you putting it in yourself? 09:42 < ware> im selling it as is without a new transmission 09:42 < ware> i dont want to mess with it 09:42 < ware> fwd tranny seems like a bitch to change 09:42 < oddball> ah, so.... you're selling your working vehicle off before you have a chance to get something else? 09:43 < ware> what working vehicle? 09:43 < ware> the bike? 09:43 < oddball> or is it broken too? 09:43 < ware> im driving my parents car right now and looking for a new vehicle 09:43 < ware> it works but i cant drive it to nash and back everyday and in the rain 09:43 < oddball> ah, ok 09:43 <@Dolemite> ware : So you're going to assume a new car payment instead of investing < $1000 to get your otherwise in good condition vehicle? 09:43 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: stop making sense 09:43 <@Dolemite> s/\?/back in working order\?/ 09:44 < ware> ive never had a car payment and im not getting a car payment 09:44 <@Dolemite> You're just going to keep driving your Mom's car! 09:44 < oddball> heh 09:44 <@Dolemite> ware : Your new name is Maverick 2.0 09:44 <@brimstone> RIDICULE! 09:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 09:44 < ware> no im going to buy an older car i can afford lol 09:44 <@Dolemite> you may as well go ahead and start dating 17 year olds 09:45 < ware> whats wrong with that? 09:45 <@brimstone> if the grass is green, play ball 09:45 <@ladymerlin> ware a few weeks ago i could of sold you a mustang lol 09:45 <@Dolemite> ware : When you're 30? It's illegal, for one thing. 09:45 <@oddball> ladymerlin: got rid of your mustang? 09:45 < ware> im 22, a 5 year spread is fine 09:45 <@ladymerlin> yup 09:45 <@Dolemite> ware : Yes, but to truly be Maverick 2.0, you'll have to date them when you're 30 09:45 <@ladymerlin> dude made an offer on it that was quite nice 09:45 <@brimstone> ware: you know the rules, 22 / 2 + 7 == 18, 09:46 <@ladymerlin> i hadent even thought of selling it lol 09:46 <@oddball> ware: not in TN, more than 4 and it's illegal. 09:46 <@Dolemite> Ok, meeting time 09:46 <@oddball> ladymerlin: cool, what you driving now? 09:46 < ware> illegal to fuck em, not date em 09:46 <@brimstone> ware: http://xkcd.com/314/ 09:47 <@oddball> until you piss off the parents 09:47 <@ladymerlin> oddball: ive got an explorer 09:47 <@oddball> cool 09:47 <@Evilpig> he can't very well piss them off. they made him what he is afterall 09:54 <@oddball> Ok, someone just sent the new office phone listing around. It's not print friendly, and it doesn't have the internally extensions listed. 09:54 <@brimstone> yay for document collaberation! 09:54 -!- brookshi1e [n=mbrooks@hijacked.us] has joined #se2600 09:54 <@SkyDog_> Work harder, not smarter! 09:54 <@brimstone> *collaboration 09:54 -!- brookshi1e [n=mbrooks@hijacked.us] has quit [Client Quit] 09:55 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: signs you're getting older... when you wake up in the morning and feel like you practiced martial arts the night before... but haven't for two days. 09:56 <@oddball> so, for instance, the phone list shows that I exist, but doesn't list any contact info 09:56 <@SkyDog_> That's the way you want it. 09:56 <@oddball> it does make my job quieter 10:06 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:09 <@Evilpig> ugh. I really hate coding projects. stuff that should be really easy just aren't clicking this morning. I should have stopped and got some breakfast 10:10 <@SkyDog_> Leave and go get some. While you're in the drive thru, it'll click. 10:10 < wontonjoe> good morning se2600! 10:11 < wontonjoe> i need to tell someone, will you guys be game? 10:11 <@SkyDog_> Sure. what happened 10:11 <@SkyDog_> You have 5 minutes before you have to stop talking about her. Go. 10:12 < wontonjoe> its a high probability im the most happiest man alive, and its not my ex 10:12 <@Evilpig> I can't. I need to leave at 1 today to take dumb dumb to the eye doctor to see about his problem 10:12 <@SkyDog_> Ok, spill already. 10:12 <@SkyDog_> dumb dumb? 10:12 < wontonjoe> someone ive known for a long time is about to be my someone pretty soon 10:12 <@Evilpig> marine with bumb eye that went awol 10:13 <@Evilpig> bum* 10:13 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: Did he get the eye removed? 10:13 < wontonjoe> pretty much im in dumb ass love with someone who ive wanted to be for a long time we just pretty much admitted it today 10:13 <@Evilpig> he wants to 10:13 <@nachoguy> ladymerlin, some guy just up and offered to buy the stang? that's kinda wierd 10:13 <@nachoguy> nice car and all, but hardly a collector's item 10:13 <@SkyDog_> wontonjoe: Move slowly. Take your time. 10:13 <@Evilpig> wontonjoe: put it in her dumper 10:14 < wontonjoe> this is a second time around type thing skydog_ 10:14 < wontonjoe> evilpig , thats pure evil! i like it 10:14 < wontonjoe> i will take my time 10:14 < wontonjoe> and its a successful non trailer trash non family problem person 10:15 <@oddball> wontonjoe: congratz 10:15 < wontonjoe> ty oddball 10:15 < wontonjoe> god i sound gay when im happy 10:15 <@SkyDog_> What's her name? 10:15 -!- nachoguy changed the topic of #se2600 to: http://outerz0ne.org/ Mar 21-23 | Call 770-384-0080 and mention group "outerz0ne" for the $79/night rate | dc0de: you're hot. rawr | wontonjoe: put it in her dumper i will take my time 10:15 <@someninjamaster> just when your happy? 10:15 < wontonjoe> ill tell you later ok? 10:16 < wontonjoe> lol 10:16 <@SkyDog_> wontonjoe: Why later? 10:16 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: see my previous statement 10:17 <@SkyDog_> That is a good test, put it in her pooper and see if she calls you back. 10:20 < wontonjoe> sky dog i pm'd you to tell you the info, but freenode is blocking due to spam 10:21 <@ladymerlin> wonton try identifying 10:21 < wontonjoe> i thought i was 10:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o wontonjoe] by ChanServ 10:22 <@nachoguy> ping? 10:27 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 10:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 10:33 <@nachoguy> anyone know of a utility that will generate cisco password hashes? 10:40 <@baudburn> mornin 10:41 * baudburn smells rebound 10:43 <@nachoguy> heya baud 10:43 <@baudburn> hi 10:49 <@baudburn> dont want to work today. 10:55 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has joined #se2600 10:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-lap] by ChanServ 11:00 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 11:02 <@Evilpig> I'm trying hard not to work 11:02 <@Evilpig> apparently I have to go get fingerprinted this week 11:03 < ware> burn em off 11:04 <@Shadow_Phone> meow 11:04 < ware> moo 11:04 <@Shadow_Phone> dentist wasnt that bad, she was cute for an indian 11:04 < ware> noice, hows the recovery 11:05 * baudburn wonders how much current a cat5 cable can carry 11:05 <@baudburn> using 4 conductors 11:05 <@Evilpig> a good bit 11:05 <@baudburn> err conduits 11:08 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: not pulled yet 11:08 <@Shadow_Phone> was the consulation 11:08 <@Shadow_Phone> insurcnace will pay 90% 11:08 <@Shadow_Phone> im happy 11:17 <@Dolemite> Maybe you should start brushing your teeth 11:27 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, yeah 11:28 * Shadow_Phone breathes rotten smeelling breath on Dolemite 11:28 <@Shadow_Phone> (all lifeforms being to melt withing a 10 foot radius of gas cloud) 11:28 <@Dolemite> Ah, so nothing different from the norm. 11:28 <@Shadow_Phone> grrr 11:30 <@oddball> That reminds me, I picked up Destroy All Humans: Unleash Big Willy this weakend 11:31 <@oddball> stomping around in a giant robotic Big Boy destroying shit is wonderful 11:40 <@GodFix> what's a good way to generate 90-95MB of traffic for 24-48 hours? 11:41 <@GodFix> between 2 endpoint on the same network 11:41 <+coil> ping 11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> packet storming 11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> 1mb packets 11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> 90 streams 11:42 <@Shadow_Phone> youll kill any other bandwidth 11:42 < ware> lies 11:42 <@Shadow_Phone> coil: ping is to low priority on the routers 11:42 < ware> Shadow_Phone: can you test my downstream from work? 11:42 <@Shadow_Phone> sure, pm ip 11:42 < ware> scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com 11:42 < ware> err 11:42 < ware> cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com 11:43 <+coil> ... 11:43 <+coil> hmm, that host looks familiar 11:43 <+coil> where have i seen it beofre.... 11:43 < ware> yeah ive had that ip for awhlie hahaha 11:43 <@Shadow_Phone> im not gonna do that to coil 11:46 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:48 < ware> http://www.myfriendmagazine.com/ 11:49 * coil stabs ware 11:50 -!- Netsplit clarke.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: +MxZBot, freakn_, @Mirage 11:51 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @Mirage, freakn_, +MxZBot 11:52 < ware> wee leavin work 11:52 < ware> HOLLA BALLAZ 11:52 <+coil> stfu 11:52 < ware> HOLLA BALLAZ 11:52 <+coil> stfu 11:52 < ware> HOLLA BALLAZ 11:53 <+coil> stfu 11:53 < ware> no u 11:53 <+coil> stfu 11:53 < ware> no u stfu 11:53 < ware> usux 11:53 < ware> lrn2ircthnx 11:53 <+coil> nousuxmoar 11:53 <+coil> stfu 11:53 < ware> no umomz sux m0ar 11:53 < ware> urd4dsuxu0ff 11:53 < ware> cuzuzgaizf4gz 11:54 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by Corydon76-lap [sober up] 11:54 -!- ware [i=w@u.NF] has joined #se2600 11:54 -!- coil was kicked from #se2600 by Corydon76-lap [sober up] 11:54 -!- coil [i=scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 11:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v coil] by ChanServ 11:54 < ware> heyyyy i am sober 11:54 < ware> and oft teh w0rkz, cya 11:54 <+coil> but its monday 11:57 * coil has to go pay rent 12:10 <@ladymerlin> anyone know a good place to stay in gatlingburg? 12:10 <@unixfag> So, I assume the outerz0ne group block is full at Hyatt... and it wasn't just that the dude on the phone didn't like me 12:11 <@Corydon76-lap> ladymerlin: IN Gatlinburg? 12:11 <@ladymerlin> yeah 12:11 <@Corydon76-lap> ladymerlin: I'm recommend staying in Sevierville and driving each day you want to be there 12:11 <@oddball> ladymerlin: Naienko and I enjoyed the place accross the street from the aquarium 12:12 <@SkyDog_> unixfag: Lemme check. 12:12 <@Corydon76-lap> The rates are murder, otherwise 12:12 <@oddball> ummm... not when I went 12:12 <+coil> dont stop me now 12:13 <@oddball> of course, this is me comparing to staying in places like Atlanta 12:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 12:14 <@Corydon76-lap> When Jeff and I went up to Gatlinburg, we rented a cabin in the woods... much nicer 12:14 <@oddball> that, and I would pay a little extra to not have to deal with driving in every day 12:14 <@Corydon76-lap> and not all that expensive 12:14 <@Corydon76-lap> oddball: difference is that I go to hike in the mountains, where you need a car to get to the trailhead anyway 12:15 <@oddball> it depends on what you're planning on doing 12:15 <@Corydon76-lap> I can pretty much cover all the tourist trap crap in an 8hour day anyway 12:17 <@someninjaserver> afternoon all 12:18 <@Dolemite> unixfag : The block was only valid through 2/29/08, so if you called to book a room after that, you have to just get a room at regular rates 12:19 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, theres one person you can ask 12:19 <@unixfag> ah, thanks 12:19 <@Shadow_Phone> er 12:19 <@Shadow_Phone> ladymerlin: theres one person you can ask about gatlinburg 12:20 <@Shadow_Phone> but id rather slit the persons throat then converse with it 12:20 <@someninjaserver> i like gatlinburg 12:20 <@someninjaserver> i spend every thanksgiving there 12:20 <@Shadow_Phone> i like it too 12:21 <@someninjaserver> i just like walking and watching the people 12:25 <@SkyDog_> unixfag: The room block has been extended till friday. 12:25 <@SkyDog_> Give them a call back and get our room rate. 12:26 <@unixfag> :) thanks 12:31 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has joined #se2600 12:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 12:32 <@Dolemite> Neoteric : Call and reserve your room for Outerz0ne, you freak! 12:33 * Shadow_Phone threatens Neoteric with feet if he doesnt reserve a room now 12:33 <@Shadow_Phone> Neoteric: cancur sore noodles with a side of white puss 12:34 <+coil> no 12:34 <@Neoteric> oh snap! My diodes are on their way. 12:35 <@Neoteric> Dolemite: why? 1) I'm crashing w/ nick 2) I'm not paying a lot for this muffler. 12:37 <@Shadow_Phone> coil: speaking of, your mom gives the best foot massages 12:37 <@Shadow_Phone> kudos to her 12:37 <+coil> no 12:37 <+coil> stfu about my mom 12:37 <+coil> you have no right to talk about her 12:38 -!- freakn_ [i=freakn@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:38 -!- freakn [i=freakn@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #se2600 12:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o freakn] by ChanServ 12:39 <@nachoguy> well that sucked 12:39 <@nachoguy> had to watch someone clean their desk 12:41 <+coil> fired? 12:43 <@unixfag> or just an unreliable cleaner 12:48 <@Neoteric> nachoguy: are you in detention? 12:48 <@Shadow_Phone> coil: yeah, it was your mom cleaning, thats why 13:00 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:05 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 13:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 13:57 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has joined #se2600 14:02 * someninjaserver yawns 14:33 <@wontonjoe> ha i passed out 14:33 * wontonjoe does happy dance --- Log opened Mon Mar 03 14:52:26 2008 14:52 -!- Evilpig [n=wilpig@blueboy.wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 14:52 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 64 nicks [42 ops, 0 halfops, 2 voices, 20 normal] 14:52 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 4 secs 14:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 14:52 <@Evilpig> someone try to email me please 15:01 <@Neoteric> Evilpig: no. no one loves you. 15:09 <@someninjaserver> haha 15:27 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl 15:28 <@tzanger> Two old guys are chattin and one says "I think I'm gonna leave my wife, she hasn't spoken to me in over 3 months" the other guy says to his friend, "If I were you I'd reconsider, women like that are hard to find" 15:29 <@Shadow_Phone> .....agreed 15:33 -!- Obi_Wan_Shinobi [n=blahblah@165.166.205.134] has joined #se2600 15:34 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> Dagmar & JonnyX ?? 15:35 <@someninjaserver> ?????? 15:35 <@someninjaserver> ????? 15:35 <@someninjaserver> ???? 15:35 <@someninjaserver> ??? 15:35 <@someninjaserver> ?? 15:35 <@someninjaserver> ? 15:35 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> sup ninja...? 15:35 <@someninjaserver> nothing much 15:35 <@brimstone> not nearly enough it seems 15:35 <@someninjaserver> doing backup exec updates 15:35 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> NIN has new album up for grabs on their website.... 15:35 <@brimstone> Ghosts? 15:35 <+MxZBot> ghosts are real... :)) 15:35 <@someninjaserver> and watching the roomba run around' 15:36 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> they are telling all their fans to steal it and make copies 15:36 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> https://store.nin.com/cart/quantity 15:37 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> I imagine its a better quality than the one I already stole.. heh heh heh 15:43 < Obi_Wan_Shinobi> u modded the roomba? or is it actualy cleaning? 15:46 <@Catonic> FUCK YEAH! 15:46 <@Catonic> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080302-first-spam-felony-conviction-upheld-no-free-speech-to-spam.html 15:49 <@Catonic> baudburn: how long do you want to pass current through cat 5? 15:49 <@Catonic> it's 24AWG... 15:51 <@someninjaserver> its actually cleaning 15:51 <@Catonic> 84.219 ohms per kilometer, per single wire... if you're using four pairs (max available in CAT5) you'll have to consider I*I*R losses as well 15:52 <@Catonic> baudburn: 4 * #24 (AWG) = 1 * #18 (AWG) 15:52 <@Catonic> #18 is good for 10A. 15:52 <@Catonic> for 50 feet. 15:53 <@Catonic> err... maybe. I think I'm wrong on that. Wikipedia suggests 5 amps. I wouldn't exceed 5A. 15:54 <@Catonic> The original Bell specifications for the use of #24 is a loop good to carry 20mA, and to sustain 5A on ringing at 90VAC at 20 hertz. 15:55 <@Catonic> the old "REN" system was documented as 1.0REN = 1.0A, max bell ringing capability was 5.0REN. 15:57 -!- poiupoiu [i=hectorgo@oxnard.dreamhost.com] has joined #se2600 15:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o poiupoiu] by ChanServ 16:01 -!- mog__ [n=mog@216.207.245.1] has joined #se2600 16:02 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 16:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 16:02 -!- mog__ [n=mog@216.207.245.1] has quit [Client Quit] 16:06 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]"] 16:08 -!- Obi_Wan_Shinobi [n=blahblah@165.166.205.134] has quit [] 16:18 * brimstone wonders if this is outerzone's last year 16:23 <@poiupoiu> O.o 16:23 <@poiupoiu> and i just started going to these... 16:25 <@brimstone> just seems pretty disorganized this year 16:27 <@someninjaserver> anyone messed with backup exec 12 yet 16:33 <@brimstone> anyone else seen where the xp install cd just blacks out when grub/lvm/linux is on a system? 16:35 <@ShadowHntr> not here, i've always installed windows first 16:35 <@ShadowHntr> speaking of that, i may reinstall opensuse on my dualboot system, switch back to x64 16:36 <@brimstone> yeah, a little dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1024 count=10 fixed it 16:53 <@Catonic> dc0de: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGSALY 16:53 <@Catonic> outerz0ne is very much a grassroots con. It is what you make of it. 16:54 <@baudburn> Catonic: i ended up going through about the same process you did 16:54 <@baudburn> not that much really 16:54 <@baudburn> i'm looking at 12 volts and one pair for a signal 16:54 <@Catonic> I didn't realize how much cross section mattered until I started talking NEC with our telecom EE. 16:55 <@Catonic> baudburn: how fast is the signal? does it have DC bias? 16:55 <@baudburn> so thats 3 for +12, and 3 for gnd 16:55 <@baudburn> the signal is irrelivant.. tis slow 16:55 <@baudburn> its just i2c 16:55 <@Catonic> what distance? 16:55 <@baudburn> unknown 16:55 <@baudburn> varies 16:56 <@baudburn> mostly, really short 16:56 <@Catonic> err: #define UPPER_LIMIT is unset 16:56 <@baudburn> exactly 16:56 <@Catonic> give me a number... 16:56 <@baudburn> i'm going to use it to daisychain 16:56 <@Catonic> daisy chain implies multiple sources or loads. 16:57 <@baudburn> one source for power 16:57 -!- unixfag [i=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:57 <@baudburn> multiple boards drawing frome it 16:57 <@Catonic> how much voltage loss can you sustain? 16:57 <@baudburn> that's something i still have to evaluate.. i'm also not sold on the enet cable solution 16:58 <@baudburn> just toying with it since i can get dual connector headers for about 2 bucks.. and enet cable is cheap and twisted 16:58 -!- somenothing [n=somenoth@255114127.ecsis.net] has left #se2600 [] 16:58 <@baudburn> back of the envelop.. one sec 17:00 <@baudburn> i can drop around 1 volt.. maybe more for the 12v source 17:04 <@Catonic> what's the ballpark here? 300 ft? 1000 ft? 17:04 <@baudburn> not even close 17:04 <@baudburn> probably not mroe than 50 feet tops 17:04 <@baudburn> most of the time, probably not more than 5 feet 17:06 <@Shadow_Phone> baudburn: whats the link to your project? 17:06 <@Shadow_Phone> i may try this out tomorrow night 17:06 <@baudburn> Shadow_Phone: none yet.. i havent posted anything 17:06 <@baudburn> i'm still doing the design and layout 17:06 <@Shadow_Phone> ok 17:06 <@baudburn> i'll post it all when its done 17:06 <@Shadow_Phone> kk 17:06 <@tzanger> what're you doing? 17:07 <@Catonic> looks like live nation owns the venue, so it's going to be expensive one way or the other 17:07 <@baudburn> tzanger: nothing fancy 17:08 <@baudburn> tzanger: just a simple PWM LED color mixer 17:08 <@baudburn> but with support for multiple individually addressable boards 17:08 <@baudburn> so you can string them together 17:09 <@tzanger> baudburn: dont' do I2c, use RS485 17:09 <@baudburn> tzanger: yeah, i know, but i don't want to add hardware 17:09 <@tzanger> how far are you trying to push I2C? 17:09 <@baudburn> unknown.. i'm not setting any limits as i'm not planning on running more than 2 or 3 together 17:10 <@baudburn> at lesat for round one of development, the answer is "don't care" :) 17:10 <@tzanger> :-) 17:10 <@baudburn> i have more important things to do, but this has captured my fancy for this week :) 17:10 <@tzanger> I've never had much luck running I2C all that far 17:11 <@baudburn> tzanger: yeah, i know it's not meant to long haul 17:11 <@baudburn> basically, if it doesnt work, i'll just drop support 17:11 <@baudburn> i don't want to add size/cost/hardware for that right now 17:12 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:15 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl 17:15 <@baudburn> the other potential option if i2c doesnt work is broadcast IR control 17:15 <@baudburn> heh 17:15 <@Shadow_Phone> this happened when i was 15 when it rickshaded off a rock in a wood chip pile: http://www.shadow404.com/143.sizes@pellet_cheek.JPG?size1=O 17:16 <@Shadow_Phone> air rifle pellet 17:16 <@Shadow_Phone> thing is still in my cheek 17:17 <@Catonic> so.. you set off metal detectors? 17:19 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 17:19 <@Shadow_Phone> na, its not that big 17:20 <@Catonic> I wonder how many people get stopped at the metal detector and just have that sickening grin on thier face when they get wanded in the crotch and the detector keeps going off... 17:21 <@Catonic> Two words ought to shut them up: "Cock ring." 17:22 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl 17:22 <@Shadow_Phone> nice 17:26 <@Shadow_Phone> well, i just located the pellet in my cheek 17:26 <@Shadow_Phone> thats freaky 17:33 <@Catonic> http://www.dieselsweeties.com/hstrips/0/1/9/6/01961.gif <- I know someone who worked for the woman who did this. 17:36 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 17:36 <@Catonic> dc0de: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIGSALY 17:37 <@dc0de> and what is this? 17:37 <@Catonic> Shit, I thought you'd know. 17:37 <@dc0de> lemme look. 17:38 <@Catonic> I just bought a book that had it mentioned; I'm going to give it to my father. 17:39 <@dc0de> impressive, although outdated. 17:41 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de: did you see my pic? 17:42 <@dc0de> Shadow_Phone, no... where? 17:42 <@Shadow_Phone> http://www.shadow404.com/143.sizes@pellet_cheek.JPG?size1=O 17:43 <@dc0de> don't play with pellet guns? 17:44 <@Shadow_Phone> was a richashade when i was 15 17:44 <@Dagmar> Fire discipline is a wonderful thing 17:44 <@Shadow_Phone> i didnt know it went in 17:44 <@Shadow_Phone> till that xray today 17:44 <@Shadow_Phone> cause it only blood for a minute 17:44 <@Shadow_Phone> so i thought it just knicked my cheek 17:44 <@Shadow_Phone> rather than made entry 17:48 <@Dagmar> He's actually correct 17:48 <@Dagmar> wtrong chan 17:56 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:57 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 17:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 18:01 <@tzanger> Shadow_Phone: now what'd you go do that for 18:03 <@Shadow_Phone> it was an accident 18:03 <@tzanger> sure it was 18:03 <@tzanger> that's what they usually say :-) 18:03 <@Shadow_Phone> na, was trying to kill myself with an air rifle, thats it 18:14 <@tzanger> the first step is admitting you have a problem 18:14 <@Catonic> I really must stop posting to this channel. 18:15 <@tzanger> Catonic: ? 18:15 <@Catonic> http://se2600.org/ircstats/ <- I am the mouthiest bitch on here. 18:15 <@tzanger> haha 18:15 <@tzanger> I think I'm buried in the noise 18:16 <@tzanger> yep 18:16 <@tzanger> I am 18:21 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 18:30 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 18:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 18:35 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 18:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 18:53 <@Catonic> http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~AD8Y-HYS/movie.htm 18:55 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:17 -!- squirrelt3rd [n=non3@c-76-18-185-218.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o squirrelt3rd] by ChanServ 19:18 <@squirrelt3rd> skydog: ping 19:20 <@dc0de> are we supposed to give gifts for Easter? 19:32 <@rhia> dc0de: traditionally Easter purchases are the kids goody baskets, enough eggs to boil & dye, and new clothes for everyone to show off at church 19:33 <@dc0de> whee... I'm glad I'm not playing that game. 19:46 <@someninjamaster> sup squirrelt3rd 19:53 <@Shadow_Phone> well one of my cats made their first live kill 19:53 <@Shadow_Phone> gf just called me screaming 19:53 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl 20:00 <@someninjamaster> live kill of what 20:01 <@Shadow_Phone> a bird 20:06 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:08 -!- MudFlap_ [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap_] by ChanServ 20:20 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:22 <@tzanger> wow, a 5-page patent 20:22 <@tzanger> I don't think I've ever seen one so short before 20:22 <@tzanger> approved Sept 16, 1975... that might explain it 20:26 <@someninjamaster> whats it for 20:34 -!- MudFlap_ [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 ["I'm not here right now."] 20:35 -!- unixfag [n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 20:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 20:37 -!- unixfag changed the topic of #se2600 to: http://outerz0ne.org/ Mar 21-23 | Call 770-384-0060 and mention group "outerz0ne" for the $79/night rate | dc0de: you're hot. rawr | wontonjoe: put it in her dumper i will take my time 20:45 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-255-255-12.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 20:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 20:47 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 20:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 20:49 <@squirrelt3rd> skydog: ping 20:49 <@squirrelt3rd> mudflap:ping 21:03 <@SkyDog_> Pong 21:04 <@squirrelt3rd> so i got bored 21:04 <@SkyDog_> Oh god. 21:04 <@dc0de> uh oh 21:05 <@squirrelt3rd> and went to lowes. dude i walked up and down every isle. i have some good ideas but i found out that we may have to rethink the whole glass window idea with the glass blocks 21:05 <@SkyDog_> How so? 21:05 <@squirrelt3rd> it cost 16 bucks for just 1 and they are 8in x 8in 21:05 <@squirrelt3rd> or at least the only ones i saw today 21:05 <@SkyDog_> Hmm. I think mudflap found a better price, but they still aren't cheap. 21:06 <@squirrelt3rd> metal studs are 6 bucks about twice has high as wood 21:06 <@SkyDog_> Fuck. 21:06 <@SkyDog_> Wood works. 21:06 <@squirrelt3rd> the cheapest sub floor was 10.44 a sheet 21:06 <@squirrelt3rd> 4 x 8 21:06 <@squirrelt3rd> looked nice though 21:06 <@SkyDog_> Cool. 21:06 <@SkyDog_> hit the HC channel. 21:07 <@squirrelt3rd> that might hurt my hand 21:07 <@squirrelt3rd> what the channel? 21:21 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-255-255-12.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:21 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-255-232-58.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 21:21 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o hobbes615] by ChanServ 21:30 <@dc0de> whheeeeee. bedtime. 21:30 <@dc0de> l8r all 21:30 * dc0de is away: off to bed 21:34 -!- bjablonsky [n=bjablons@68-119-82-182.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com] has joined #se2600 21:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o bjablonsky] by ChanServ 21:52 -!- nightcarnag1 [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:52 <@Catonic> disturbing... kldload /boot/kernel/snd_* 21:53 <@Catonic> kldstat reports 34 lines 22:38 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 22:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 22:39 <@maverickbna> damn this is pretty damn cool. 22:39 <@maverickbna> brb 22:39 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Client Quit] 22:41 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 22:41 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 22:41 <@maverickbna> BitchX-1.1-final+ by panasync - SunOS 5.10 22:42 <@maverickbna> NoMachine NX 22:42 <@maverickbna> finally a way to get my unix gui on the run 22:42 <@maverickbna> :) 22:42 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Client Quit] 23:12 -!- Netsplit brown.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @unixfag 23:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: @unixfag 23:23 -!- Netsplit brown.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @unixfag 23:33 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-255-232-58.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:46 -!- Netsplit over, joins: unixfag 23:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ --- Log closed Tue Mar 04 00:00:22 2008