--- Log opened Fri Feb 29 00:00:03 2008 --- Day changed Fri Feb 29 2008 00:00 <@Catonic> tonight, I sleep. 00:03 < sen1ster> if a woman wants me they take the nerd too, or they can just take the roofies i put in their drink, either way its a win win 00:04 < sen1ster> im backing a chuckeye steak, i usually grill them, this smells wonderful 00:06 < sen1ster> baking 00:06 < sen1ster> i said backing wtf 00:07 <@Catonic> does anyone want like ... seven years of black t-shirts, size xl? 00:08 <+coil> no 00:08 < sen1ster> youll be sorry when you met a girl that only wants you to wear black 00:08 < sen1ster> gives blowjobs and loathes life in general 00:10 <@Catonic> dude, I'm a fucking chamileon 00:11 <+coil> in the crooked eyes way? 00:12 <@Catonic> that one too. 00:13 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n7ncJEFuSw 00:14 <+coil> description? 00:14 <+MxZBot> description is worse than the pic, I suspect 00:15 < sen1ster> SWEET! my garmin home charger i bought for a dollar works with my bt gps 00:15 <@Catonic> catonic? 00:15 <+MxZBot> you are not a pimp 00:15 <+coil> wooooooooot 00:15 <@Catonic> the hell im not 00:17 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-182-212.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 00:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 00:30 < sen1ster> mmm almost teriyaki marinated baked steak time! 00:30 <+coil> texas 00:30 < sen1ster> hmm this would be good with a glass of whiskey 00:34 <@dasunt> If you cut me, do I not bleed? 00:35 < sen1ster> if i do it right you die. 00:35 <@Catonic> dasunt: if I cut you, you bleed emo. 00:35 <@dasunt> I do. 00:35 <@dasunt> I bleed cynicism and depression. 00:36 < sen1ster> its easy to be depressed, much harder to continue on, either way you die, why not make it worth it 00:37 <@dasunt> Make what worth what? 00:37 <@Dagmar> enough emo bullshit please 00:38 < sen1ster> in that case you may have a point 00:42 <@Catonic> Dagmar: I sense a roast at PN in dasunt's lack of honor. The precident has been set. 00:42 <@dasunt> LoL. 00:43 <@dasunt> Y'know, all you really need to do is find a local geek girl for me. 00:43 <@dasunt> Local to me. 00:43 <@dasunt> Not to most se2600ers. 00:43 <@brimstone> here he goes again 00:44 < sen1ster> you want someone who is a geek, silly me i wouldve went with someone without gag reflexes 00:44 <@dasunt> I have odd taste in women. 00:44 <@dasunt> I want to talk to them. 00:45 <@dasunt> *snickers* http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sdo/566171148.html 00:45 < sen1ster> what in the hell would anyone want to do that for? 00:45 <@dasunt> She neglected to say that her cat committed suicide. 00:45 <@dasunt> The expression in the first picture is priceless. 00:45 <@Catonic> why is it that most guys I've been around, including good friends... refuse to grow a pair of balls and be a man at all times? 00:46 <@dasunt> Catonic: Because we get sick of the game. 00:46 <@buu> BECAUSE THEY SPEND TIME WITH YOU. 00:46 -!- buu was kicked from #se2600 by Catonic [all caps are so 1983.] 00:46 -!- buu [n=buu@erxz.com] has joined #se2600 00:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o buu] by ChanServ 00:46 <@dasunt> Guys buy into the whole romanticism more than women do, I think. 00:47 <@buu> Caps are cool. 00:47 <@dasunt> Sure, there are plenty of guys just looking for a good lay. 00:47 * sen1ster raises hand 00:47 <@dasunt> But there are also guys that want a grown up relationship. 00:47 <@Catonic> Yeah, I agree... 00:47 <@dasunt> And very few people, of either gender, seem to be capable of that. 00:47 <+coil> dasunt: i could become vegitarian if iw anted to 00:47 <@Catonic> I truly enjoy getting a blowjob while I'm frying eggs, before I go and spin the bolts on my trusty chevy. 00:48 <@dasunt> Add in the whole geek think (which are probably the sort of people you hang out with), and the geek guy/girl ratio is so skewed that it basically an exercise in frustration. 00:48 <@Catonic> this has become painful. goodnight. 00:48 <@dasunt> G'night. 00:48 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:49 <@someninjamaster> of shit 00:49 <@someninjamaster> i missed pitypartyfest 2008 00:50 <@someninjamaster> oh well theres always next year 00:50 <@sasquatc4> try tommorow night 00:50 <@someninjamaster> ah 00:51 <@someninjamaster> so whens selfpitynic 00:51 <@sasquatc4> thats all i usually see in here between 11-1am 00:56 * dasunt laughs. 00:59 <@dasunt> I'm more bitter than self-pity. 01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> I find most men are salty, not bitter 01:00 * coil eats more fruit 01:00 < sen1ster> my ex said that too lol 01:01 <@dasunt> Supposedly, vegans are sweet. 01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> I've never knowingly tasted a vegan 01:03 <@dasunt> Don't look at me for a chance. :p 01:03 <@someninjamaster> i hate to dig up old videos 01:03 <@someninjamaster> http://digitalian.blogspot.com/2006/12/come-on-toshi.html 01:03 <@someninjamaster> but i saw this a minute ago and it still makes me laugh 01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: as long as you're not on psycho drugs, you should take fine 01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> s/take/taste/ 01:03 <@dasunt> You will never no. 01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Never say never 01:05 <@dasunt> Er, never know. 01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> You have to admit, people with a lot of experience are better... 01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Ain't that right? 01:08 * Corydon76-dig giggles 01:13 <@Corydon76-dig> What, no witty repartee? 01:15 < sen1ster> im quite suprised as well 01:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Why's that? 01:15 < sen1ster> ill say it again folks, there are no hot bitches on the internet 01:15 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I dunno. People can be fun either way. 01:15 * dasunt shrugs. 01:17 <@juice> hi 01:20 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:26 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: So how is internet dating working out? 01:26 <@dasunt> I want details. 01:27 <+coil> dasunt: send me albums 01:31 <@dasunt> Of what? 01:31 <+coil> amorphis 01:31 <@dasunt> Only got one. 01:31 <+coil> it's the best one 01:32 <@dasunt> Give me a site to send them to. 01:32 <+coil> or i dont know 01:32 <+coil> ftp works? 01:32 <@dasunt> Sure. 01:32 <@dasunt> You are only getting mp3s though. 01:32 <@dasunt> Don't really want to upload FLAC. 01:32 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: eHarmony and gk2gk seem to work the best 01:33 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: gk2gk? 01:33 <+coil> what kbps are they 01:33 <@Corydon76-dig> chemistry and match suck 01:33 <+coil> better not be 128 01:33 <@dasunt> What are you looking for? 01:33 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: right now, responses would be good 01:34 <+coil> vbr or at least 192 01:34 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: I get the distinct impression that most of the dating profiles are for people who abandoned the sites long ago 01:35 <@dasunt> Damn, WTF? 01:35 <@dasunt> I've been ripping to 128kbps? 01:35 <@dasunt> Shit. 01:35 <@dasunt> Well that sucks. 01:35 <+coil> lol 01:35 <@dasunt> Oh yah. 01:35 <+coil> yeah it pissed me off when i realised that 01:35 <@dasunt> I remember why, I started off this collection for my mp3player which had crap output. 01:35 <@dasunt> Damn. 01:36 <@dasunt> I need to do massive reripping. 01:36 <@dasunt> Probably to FLAC. 01:36 <+coil> and buy new hd's :) 01:36 <@dasunt> Yes, and a SATA card as a stopgap. 01:36 <@dasunt> Meh. 01:36 <+coil> is sataII backwards compatable with sata 01:36 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Not many responses? 01:36 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: not even rejections 01:37 <@dasunt> Have you given up on Craigslist then? 01:37 <@Corydon76-dig> CL is mostly spam 01:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Haven't given up on it, though 01:38 <@dasunt> I thought the republican girl sounded promising. 01:38 <+coil> dasunt: rerippign it? 01:38 <@Corydon76-dig> until I learned she was a Republican 01:38 <@dasunt> http://www.gk2gk.com/topten/waystotell.asp 01:38 <@dasunt> #3 <- Yah right. 01:39 * coil sits next to dasunt 01:39 <@dasunt> coil: Yep, need to do my collection in FLAC anyways. 01:39 <@dasunt> So let me look at my bills this month. 01:39 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: she was wet and loved fucking, though 01:39 <+coil> i like falc 01:39 <@dasunt> Lets see. 01:39 <+coil> i wish i had a bigger ipod 01:39 <@dasunt> I think I have about 300 CDs, give or take a few. 01:39 <+coil> i need to get another cc 01:39 <+coil> so i can have better credit and more debt!!! 01:40 <@dasunt> So at 500 GB, say about 300 MB per flac-compressed CD, that's ... 01:40 <@dasunt> Oh, over 1500 CDs. 01:40 <@dasunt> I'm good. 01:40 <+coil> i wish i bought real cds 01:40 <@dasunt> I'll cash a paycheck Monday and newegg a drive. 01:40 * Corydon76-dig is going to bed 01:40 <+coil> i got two 500gb just sitting here 01:41 <+coil> the sata controller sux 01:41 <@dasunt> Send me one. 01:41 <+coil> and isn't suppoerted in linux 01:41 <@dasunt> Send me both. 01:41 <+coil> no dasunt 01:41 <+coil> i want to raid these 01:41 <@dasunt> And I'll send you one back with my collection. 01:41 <+coil> they costed 210 total 01:41 <@juice> everyone is going to bed 01:41 <@juice> bleah 01:41 <+coil> cool dasunt 01:41 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: did you want to join me or something? 01:41 <@dasunt> Hmmmm, Gothic Kabbalah (Therion's latest) isn't that great, but it was $10 for both disks used today, and therre are a few good songs. 01:41 <@juice> Corydon76-dig, you wish 01:41 <+coil> you just pay s&h 01:42 <@juice> no I am wide awake after drinking black velvet all night 01:42 <@juice> and everyone is going to bed 01:42 <@dasunt> Sorry, I get up in 6 hours, so I should sleep. 01:42 <@dasunt> I should burn a DVD as well. 01:42 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: I'm good at just snuggling... 01:42 <@juice> i get up at 8:30am 01:42 <@juice> so not far behind that 01:43 <@juice> Corydon76-dig, tsk tsk 01:44 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: now that I suggest snuggling, you want sex 01:44 <@juice> nope I don't 01:44 <@Corydon76-dig> So you're good for snuggling? 01:44 <@juice> nah I am good for sleeping by myself untouched 01:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Anyway, I'm off 01:45 <@juice> so while I am half way in front I guess I will go to bed too 01:47 <+coil> dasunt: 01:52 <@dasunt> I do need to make a music database for myself or something. 01:52 <@dasunt> Meh. 01:54 < sen1ster> meh 04:51 <@Dagmar> http://bp2.blogger.com/_8KyS3ELNv9M/R8Rqw-PNxkI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/M50MIA4qGXo/s1600-h/Save+Lifetap.jpg 04:51 <@Dagmar> lol 05:56 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:09 <@someninjamaster> wow http://xkcd.com/ 07:09 <@someninjamaster> thats kinda disturbing 07:17 <@ladymerlin> whee 07:22 <@dc0de> I'm off to work.... 07:22 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:40 -!- servant74 [n=jack@68-242-12-161.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #se2600 07:51 -!- servant74 [n=jack@68-242-12-161.area7.spcsdns.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 07:56 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:58 -!- MudFlap [n=asdf@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 07:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 08:25 <@dasunt> I miss real Metallica. 08:26 <@Dolemite> Metal rots your brain and makes your penis shrink. 08:26 <@Dolemite> That's why I only listen to Europop! 08:26 * Dolemite pulls out the glow sticks 08:28 <@dasunt> That will rot your penis and make your brain shrink. 08:28 <@Dolemite> I'm married. I have no more use for either one anymore. 08:28 <@dasunt> I'm bitter, so I'm in the same boat. 08:28 <@Dolemite> high five! 08:28 * dasunt high fives. 08:30 * Dolemite cranks up some Blind Guardian on his mp3 player 08:30 <@dasunt> I just burned most of my mp3s to two DVDs for work today. 08:31 <@dasunt> Now I need to figure out which bands are probably work safe. 08:31 <@Dolemite> I would need a few blu-ray discs to burn all of mine 08:32 <@dasunt> I'm tempted to figure out how to rig up an auto-DVD-R changer. 08:32 <@dasunt> It would be nice for backups. 08:32 <@Dolemite> Now that blu-ray has won out, I'm ready for blu-ray burners to drop down to the $60-$80 range 08:32 <@dasunt> The disks are still spendy. 08:32 <@Dolemite> then I can start backing up to discs again 08:33 <@Dolemite> that they are, but they will also drop in price with increased use 08:33 <@dasunt> DVD-DL has dropped nicely. 08:33 <@dasunt> What are you backing up to right now? 08:33 <@Dolemite> that it has, but nowadays 9 GB is a drop in the bucket 08:33 <@Dolemite> drive to drive 08:33 <@Dagmar> lol 08:33 <@Dolemite> so I'm wasting a lot of space by having redundant copies across my network 08:34 <@Dagmar> It took what, 6 YEARS for DVD-DL to drop under a _dollar_ a disc? 08:34 <@brimstone> where are you finding such prices? 08:34 <@Dagmar> brimstone: You're still paying over a dollar a disc? 08:34 <@Dolemite> and alas, I'm not backing up any of my movies, since I have the original DVDs for them... but it would be a hell of a time-sink to convert them to Xvid again... not that I've even knocked out more than 20% of them so far 08:34 <@Dagmar> Sony controls Blu-Ray 08:35 <@Dagmar> ...and I am extremely doubtful there will be ANYTHING like meaningful "competition" over the format if it could mean less money for Sony. 08:35 <@brimstone> Dagmar: i've not bought any because it's over a $1 a disc 08:35 <@brimstone> not like i use my dvd-rs i have around here anyway 08:36 <@Dolemite> lowest I'm seeing on DVD-DL these days is still between $1 and $2 per disc 08:36 <@Dagmar> I just don't buy em at all 08:37 <@dasunt> Okay, off to work. 08:37 <@Dolemite> BLu-Ray is still around $13 per disc 08:37 <@Dagmar> I was _just_ seeing them under a buck for lots of 50+ 08:37 <@Dolemite> Where at, because I'd like to know that source 08:38 <@Dagmar> Online somewhere or other 08:38 <@brimstone> uh huh 08:38 <@Dagmar> jfgi 08:38 <@Dolemite> I usually get mine at cdrdvdrmedia.com 08:39 <@Dagmar> brimstone: http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Memorex-8x-DVD-R-Double-Layer-Media-50-pack-Spindle/2641140/product.html 08:39 <@Dolemite> Dagmar : I don't have 47 hours to read through the 5,000,000 results in google to back up your claim that we don't believe 08:39 <@Dagmar> Learn to price hunt, beyotch 08:39 <@Dagmar> That's $52.34 for 50 08:39 <@Dagmar> If you want cheaper, Google it yo damn sef 08:39 <@Dolemite> That's over a dollah 08:39 <@brimstone> that's not <$1 08:39 <@Dagmar> So what. 08:39 <@Dolemite> You claimed less than $1 08:39 * brimstone picks up the phone 08:39 <@Dolemite> that's what we dispute 08:39 <@Dagmar> Being unable to find shit online is ya'lls problem, not mine. 08:39 * brimstone dials D-a-g-m-a-r 08:39 * brimstone calls Dagmar out 08:40 <@Dolemite> I can find DVD-DL for close to $1, be0tch. I can't find it less than $1, and I am calling you out on your claim to be able to! 08:40 <@Dagmar> http://www.mediamegamall.com/memorex-dvdr-double-layer-85gb-8x50pk-spindle-32025732-per-item-p-9672.html 08:40 <@Dagmar> Eat a dick. 08:40 <@Dolemite> Though I'm sure if I bought in lots of 1,000 I could 08:41 <@Dolemite> ~minilink 08:41 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/mediamegamall.com/v7E4H.html 08:41 <@Dagmar> froogle.com FTW 08:41 <@Dagmar> Hell I didn't even tell it to _sort_ the results 08:41 <@Dolemite> Ewwww. Memorex. 08:41 <@Dolemite> No wonder they're so cheap 08:41 <@brimstone> media MEGAMALL 08:41 <@Dagmar> Pssht. be glad they're not just bare media on a spindle (i.e., "stack of coasters" 08:42 <@brimstone> well good for you Dagmar 08:42 <@brimstone> you were able to follow up on your claim 08:42 <@Dagmar> ANyway you slice it, dvd-dl is still not reasonably prcided 08:42 <@Dolemite> I prefer the stacks of coaster, but ok, you were able to back it up 08:42 <@Dagmar> brimston: Now let's see if you can stfu about it 08:42 <@Dolemite> I think < $1 per disc is reasonably priced 08:42 <@brimstone> i can, dunno about others though 08:42 <@Dagmar> Remember, I am like the original ONLINE JEW with buying things online 08:43 <@Dagmar> I am a _cheap_ bastard when it comes to "munitions" in particular 08:43 <@Dolemite> blu-ray blanks for $9.59... 08:43 <@Dagmar> How much do those hold apiece? 08:44 <@Dolemite> 25GB single layer, 50 GB dual layer 08:44 <@Dolemite> single layer are $9.59 08:44 <@Dolemite> dual is more than double the price right now 08:44 <@Dagmar> *blinkblink* 08:44 <@Dagmar> I think I'll stick with the "buy moar drives" policy 08:45 <@Dolemite> yeah, I'm waiting for blu-ray burners < $80 and DL media < $10 08:45 <@Dagmar> $9.59/25gb = $0.38/gb 08:46 <@Dolemite> I have no interest in playing blu-ray movies 08:46 <@Dagmar> ...but the cost of the burner eats that right up. They're still what, >$400 apiece? 08:46 <@Dolemite> No, Lite-on makes one that you can find for way less than that. Street price is sub $200. 08:47 <@Dagmar> That's more reasonable, but it still doesn't play well 08:47 <@Dolemite> Like I said, I'm waiting for < $80 on the burner and < $10 on the dual layer media 08:47 <@Dagmar> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106227http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106227 08:47 <@Dolemite> and as far as playing, cartoons look just as good in 480i as they do in high def. That's all I get to watch at home these days, anyway. 08:47 <@Dagmar> Hmm... $130 maybe not so bad after all 08:48 <@Dolemite> ~minilink 08:48 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/newegg.com/futYY.aspx 08:48 <@Dolemite> that's DVD-ROM for $130, not burner 08:49 <@Dagmar> Damn you're right 08:49 <@brimstone> happy St. Tib's day! 08:50 <@Dolemite> Ah, I guess the burners are still over $300 08:50 <@Dolemite> it's the combo blu-ray reader, DVD/CD burner that is sub $200 08:50 <@Dagmar> Yep 08:51 <@Dolemite> So we've got another year at least before the drives drop enough in price, probably longer 08:52 <@Dagmar> probably longer than that 08:52 <@Dagmar> This is Sony 08:52 <@Dagmar> You know they have no intention of it ever being cheaper to buy a blank than it is to buy a movie on discount. 08:52 <@brimstone> and they did just kill HD-DVD 08:53 <@Dolemite> They killed HD-DVD by feeding billions of dollars to the studios so that they would drop HD-DVD 08:55 <@Dagmar> Of course 08:56 <@Dagmar> ...and WHY would they do this? 08:56 <@Dagmar> So there's no _competition_ and they don't have to lower prices. 08:57 <@Dagmar> J-flip: Sounds like it's time to buy something else then 08:57 <@Dolemite> There's no competition, but there's also no scramble for people to buy the product 08:57 <@Dolemite> they have to lower the prices to get more than the die hards to adopt 08:57 <@Dagmar> Sony can wair. 08:57 <@Dagmar> s/wair/wait/; 08:57 <@Dolemite> they are selling, but nobody is buying 08:58 <@Dagmar> Sounds like the PS3 08:58 <@Dolemite> But again, China still exists, and they really don't have problems making knock-offs that violate patents and copyrights 08:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: as long as multiple manufacturers are making the discs, the price will drop 08:58 <@Dolemite> And once the genie is out of the bottle... 09:00 <@Corydon76-dig> The thing that is really affecting prices was that consumers were mostly taking a wait-and-see approach 09:00 <@Dagmar> You can say these things all you like 09:00 <@Corydon76-dig> and with that, manufacturers can't get the VOLUME that it takes to really drop prices 09:00 <@Dagmar> I'm quite sure than in a year's time when the prices on both have not changed by more than 20% you'll refuse to admit you were taking this stance. 09:02 <@Dolemite> If the prices don't drop at least 20% by next March, I will admit that I was wrong 09:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: you don't think the recession will play a factor in mfgs still not being able to get volume up? 09:02 <@Dagmar> Sony == Greed 09:02 <@Dagmar> Corydon: HEy there's a reasonable sounding excuse 09:03 <@Dolemite> I don't disagree with the Sony == Greed equation one bit 09:03 <@Dolemite> But they also have to recoup their losses at this point, and the way to do that is to start selling a shitload of licensed hardware and media 09:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: it remains to be seen how bad the recession will be 09:03 <@Dagmar> The DMCA has allowed these guys to _again_ wrap things up into a nice little bundle where _they_ dictate a portion of the hardware price of _everyone's_ hardware. 09:03 <@Dagmar> This is a collusive deal from day one. 09:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, I think this is a patent, not a copyright 09:04 <@Corydon76-dig> DMCA only applies to copyright 09:04 <@Dagmar> No shit 09:07 <@Dolemite> Dagmar has left the room. I sent him to go do a task. 09:12 -!- oddball_ [n=oddball@c-68-53-28-179.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:19 <@Dolemite> Got us a speaker for the next Nashville 2600 meeting 09:20 <@Dolemite> In response to the whacked out bill before TN Senate which would require universities to monitor all traffic and punish any students accessing copyright material... getting the Assoc. Vice Chancellor for Vanderbilt to let us know what the official response to it is. 09:21 < ware> h0 sn4p. 09:25 <@nachoguy> so, I need a new job 09:25 <@nachoguy> or a bottle of bourbon 09:25 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : Stripping just not bringing in the tips it used to? 09:25 <@nachoguy> and then a new job 09:25 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, used to? hell, I'm not sure it ever brought in more than a couple bucks, and that was from people telling me to cover up 09:26 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-68-53-28-179.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:26 <@nachoguy> I've been out for two days for a wake and funeral, and it looks like a witch hunt has occured since I've been gone 09:33 -!- unixfag [i=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 09:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 09:37 <@Evilpig> ooo witch hunt. did you ride a broom into work today instead of driving? 09:38 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: how would you enforce that? because you would be accessing copyrighted material just going to msn.com and seeing their logo. what about in the spirit of their bill and people htat have a subscription to netflix and are legally streaming copyrighted material. 09:38 <@Evilpig> sometimes law makers are just fucking morons 09:40 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : You can't enforce it. That's why Vanderbilt is fighting it. I wanted people to know that the Universities are just as opposed to this type of silliness as we are - though not to the extent that they would agree with some of the zealots in our group that think all data should be free. 09:43 <@Evilpig> I like the google logo for today 09:43 <@Corydon76-dig> It's my little sister's 7th birthday 09:50 <@baudburn> morning 09:51 <@Evilpig> baudburn: I will probably take that server down later. I am gonna redo the cabling in my rack later 09:51 <@Dolemite> Is she 7 years old, or is this the 7th time her birthday has occurred? 09:51 <@Corydon76-dig> She's 28 years old today 09:52 <@brimstone> i don't know anyone born on St. Tib's day 09:52 <@baudburn> Evilpig: cool 09:52 <@baudburn> np 09:52 <@Corydon76-dig> If you think about it, how could she be only 7 years old today? 09:53 <@Dolemite> 1 year == 365.25 days. You are anal enough to have calculated that out. 09:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: February 29th didn't occur 7 years ago 09:55 <@brimstone> gawd, you guys will argue anything, even time itself 09:55 < oddball_> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7264903.stm 09:55 < oddball_> So, who wants to start a pool on when things start blowing up in Turkey? 09:55 -!- oddball_ is now known as oddball 09:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 09:56 <@Dolemite> No, the DATE didn't, but she could have been born 7 x 365.25 days ago 09:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, who's being anal now? 09:59 <@Evilpig> god damnit. something is up with my terminal server. it just rebooted itself 10:00 <@rhia> http://www.kidnappedbygnomes.com/ 10:08 < ware> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/02/28/funny-pictures-are-those-cats-talking-like-that/ 10:12 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 10:21 <@Evilpig> have you ever seen a windows box not have a keyboard device under hardware manager? 10:30 < ware> http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/02/blind_hacker 10:30 < ware> cool read 10:36 <@Dolemite> speaking of reading, I'm going over to 2.0's daycare today to read some Dr. Suess to his class 10:36 <@Dolemite> it'll be funx0r! 10:37 <@Dagmar> ...and in another six months, that will be unnecessary 10:37 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:37 <@Dolemite> Even kids that can read enjoy being read to 10:40 <@Dagmar> Yes, but Horton Hears A Who is coming out as a full-length CGI motion picture. 10:40 <@Dagmar> They've been showing commercials for it this week. 10:41 <@Evilpig> I saw a few of those myself 10:44 <@Dolemite> It looks much better than the Mike Myers' Cat in the Hat 10:44 <@Dolemite> But I'm reading "One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish" today. I don't see them making a movie out of that. 10:46 < ware> wish i could get a video of that 10:46 <@Dolemite> me reading the book? 10:46 < ware> yeah 10:47 <@baudburn> i think ware's a fagle 10:47 < ware> i can see a funny youtube remix 10:47 * ware pinches baudburns butt 10:47 <@Dolemite> If you want, you can sit on the floor in the corner at the next meeting and I'll read it to you. 10:47 < ware> what are you talking about? 10:47 <@baudburn> 10:47 < ware> haha 10:48 <@Dolemite> ok, time to go read 11:02 <@Shadow_Phone> meow, mawning fools 11:02 <@Shadow_Phone> busted my tooth last night 11:03 <@Shadow_Phone> doc prescribed me codiene till monday, woot 11:35 -!- deoptima [i=Me@c-98-193-173-96.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 11:35 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o deoptima] by ChanServ 11:54 -!- Goat21_Out [n=Goat3003@198.146.57.1] has joined #se2600 11:54 < Goat21_Out> Hello everybody 11:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Goat21_Out: you finally came out? 11:55 < Goat21_Out> I am at APSU atm...waiting for g/f to get out of class... 11:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh 11:56 <@Dolemite> careful how you answer that, goat 11:56 < Goat21_Out> lol 11:56 < Goat21_Out> I choose to avoid that question 11:56 < Goat21_Out> yet even saying that sounds horrible 11:57 < Goat21_Out> How ya been doing dole? 11:57 < Goat21_Out> how's the kid? 11:57 <@Dolemite> he's doing great 11:57 <@Dolemite> just posted some more pics to my blog 11:57 < Goat21_Out> huzzah 11:58 < Goat21_Out> how's the whole HC project going? 11:59 <@Corydon76-dig> It's doing well. Coming along nicely 11:59 < Goat21_Out> is it up and operational yet? 11:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Goat21_Out: what do you have planned for tomorrow? 12:00 < Goat21_Out> um...I think me and chica are going out to dinner...other than that...I have no idea 12:00 < Goat21_Out> whats up? 12:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, if you're free during daylight hours, we could certainly do with another able body 12:00 < Goat21_Out> what needs to be done? 12:01 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 12:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, we have some beams to raise 12:01 < Goat21_Out> oh fun 12:01 <@Dolemite> Skydog says you need to show up to the meeting next week, Goat21 12:01 <@Dolemite> anyway, we're out to lunch 12:02 <@Dolemite> he just got here 12:02 < Goat21_Out> I will certainly attempt to show up...Yall know me though...its probally a 60% chance I will be there 12:07 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Goat21_Out: So out of 10 meetings, you'll show up to 6? 12:08 < Goat21_Out> I'm gonna attempt to...its been a really busy year, and it shows no signs of easing up on me 12:08 < Goat21_Out> It's definitely something I need to get back into 12:09 < Goat21_Out> I'm typically off on Fridays and Saturdays now, no school either...its definitely looking pretty positive 12:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Cool 12:10 < Goat21_Out> my mind is everywhere right now, so if you ask me a quesiton expect a colorfull sort of answers 12:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Goat21_Out: I think we could expect that from the ADD 12:11 < Goat21_Out> LOL, yall know me too well 12:12 < Goat21_Out> without treatment, my mind is spiraling turrent of confusion and randomness 12:13 < Goat21_Out> basiclly an attempt to function naturally...see how it goes 12:13 <@Corydon76-dig> You know how cute that is, right? 12:14 < Goat21_Out> no...I dont...and I dont care to find out either =P 12:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Good man. :-) 12:15 < Goat21_Out> how's the whole, wanting to start a family thing going for ya? 12:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Still looking 12:16 < Goat21_Out> any potential matches? 12:17 <@Corydon76-dig> There's lots of potentials 12:17 <@Corydon76-dig> just very few responses 12:17 < Goat21_Out> ah 12:18 < Goat21_Out> you'll find something 12:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, some THING 12:18 < Goat21_Out> lol 12:22 < Goat21_Out> alright yall, i'm out 12:22 < Goat21_Out> i'll let ya know about tomorrow...cya 12:22 <@Corydon76-dig> later 12:22 -!- Goat21_Out [n=Goat3003@198.146.57.1] has quit [] 12:27 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 12:27 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 12:40 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has joined #se2600 12:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 12:44 -!- deoptima [i=Me@c-98-193-173-96.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )"] 13:00 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:23 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:28 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has joined #se2600 13:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 13:28 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, ping 13:28 <@dc0de> room booked, under outerz0ne code. 13:32 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 13:32 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 13:33 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Thanks! 13:34 <@dc0de> no problem... 13:35 <@dc0de> You know I love outerz0ne... 13:35 <@dc0de> I still have the OZ-II signature block on my wall in the office! 13:37 <@dc0de> How much did I bid on that again? 13:37 <@dc0de> I know it was "lots". 13:39 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.42] has joined #se2600 13:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 13:40 <@dc0de> sup timmy? 13:42 <@Neoteric> dc0de: I hate you and your emails that ask me to update whatever bs contacts I have 13:42 <@SkyDog_> Heh. 13:42 <@Neoteric> :) 13:42 <@SkyDog_> I can't remember what the total was on it. 13:42 <@Catonic> timmah! 13:42 <@dc0de> Neoteric, quit your bitchin... you're still my "most favored asian". 13:43 <@Catonic> Neoteric: where's my picture, f00l? 13:43 <@Neoteric> Catonic: why don't you eat a bowl of dick? 13:43 <@Catonic> what dc0de? your most flavored asian? 13:43 <@Neoteric> dc0de: I love you honky! 13:43 <@dc0de> Neoteric, :) 13:44 <@brimstone> man 13:44 <@Catonic> dc0de: he only says that because he doesn't want to get caught in your gravitational field 13:44 <@brimstone> anyone know of a free dnsreporting tool now that dnsstuff made dnsreports pay? 13:44 <@dc0de> Catonic, he's already caught in it... 13:44 <@Catonic> dun dun dun 13:44 <@Catonic> Neoteric: I'd actually like to show the picture to my grandmother before she kicks the bucket. 13:49 < sen1ster> hay 13:49 -!- sen1ster is now known as wontonjoe 13:49 < wontonjoe> i need some help 13:50 < wontonjoe> i need to see a private myspace blog, i just do, please tell me someone knows how 13:50 <@Neoteric> Catonic: fine ine fine... I have to go home to the backups 13:50 <@Neoteric> I have too many gigs of pix 13:52 < wontonjoe> hello? 13:53 <@Catonic> goodbye, Mr. Anderson. 13:55 < wontonjoe> i need to read this damnit 13:58 < wontonjoe> does anyone know? 13:59 < wontonjoe> hello 13:59 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@vnhlil-l10-258.dsl.tds.net] has joined #se2600 14:00 <@Catonic> hahahahaa! 14:00 <@Catonic> you expect actual hacking content in a hacking channel... lol.... 14:00 <@dc0de> wontonjoe, ask the user to give you their password. nicely. 14:02 < polerin> heh 14:02 <@dc0de> polerin, wouldn't that work? 14:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 14:02 < polerin> a frightening ammount of time 14:02 < polerin> :/ 14:02 <@dc0de> :) 14:02 < polerin> you coauld also see if myspace still has XSS/javascript vulnds 14:02 < polerin> vulns 14:03 < polerin> then create a quick little js to grant you access to it 14:03 * dc0de backs away from polerin 14:03 < polerin> ... what did I do this time 14:03 * dc0de eyes polerin suspiciously... 14:03 < polerin> dc0de: you remeber the breaking web 2.0 talk two years ago? 14:03 < polerin> perfect example :P 14:03 <@dc0de> :P 14:04 <@dc0de> was that two or three years ago? 14:04 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:04 < polerin> two 14:04 <@dc0de> time flies... 14:04 < polerin> nods 14:05 < polerin> people really underestimate javascript 14:05 * dc0de goes back to his 300 page F5 BigIP configuration troubleshooting. 14:05 < polerin> it's actually sorta frightening 14:05 < wontonjoe> i dont understand that stuff well enough arg sucks 14:05 < polerin> wontonjoe: no better time to learn than now 14:05 < wontonjoe> any sites with material that will get me up to speed quickly? 14:05 < polerin> heh 14:06 < polerin> I'll give you topics 14:06 < wontonjoe> k 14:06 < polerin> xhttprequest 14:06 < polerin> javascript dom manipulation (last resort) 14:06 < polerin> javascript cookie functions 14:06 < polerin> those three shoudl do you for a basic one 14:07 < polerin> you might also look at javascript code insertion 14:07 < wontonjoe> ok thanks 14:07 < polerin> that being said, ... wtf, myspace? 14:08 < wontonjoe> im trying to know something i shouldnt know when i no longer need to know, in a place (myspace) i usually never go 14:08 < polerin> and disclaimer don't do anything illegal. XD 14:08 <@Catonic> dc0de: have you looked into a low-salt/no-salt diet? 14:08 < polerin> Catonic: why? 14:09 <@Catonic> I have a friend who is on one now... ye gods our food is full of salt 14:09 < polerin> oh yeah 14:09 < polerin> that's not what I meen 14:09 <@Catonic> it's not so much that americans have obesity... its that our food is total crap 14:09 < polerin> why would dc0de want to do low salt? 14:09 < polerin> salt won't make you fat, though I guess it's true enough that salty foods also tend to have high saturated fat content 14:10 <@dc0de> Catonic, salt is no problem, in fact, I need salt, to retain water. 14:10 <@dc0de> I'm diabetic, but don't have high blood pressure, or high cholesterol. 14:10 <@Catonic> lucky. 14:10 <@Catonic> I don't know what I have... 14:10 < polerin> salt really isn't bad for most people. about 10% of the poulation has bloodpressure issues becasue of their reaction to it, and there are various disorders that make salt a Bad Thing 14:10 <@Catonic> other than borderline case for ADD. 14:11 < polerin> but me, I think I have a deficiency of some type 14:11 <@dc0de> Catonic, so go to the Dr., get tested, and find out. 14:11 < polerin> because I literally eat salt sometimes 14:11 < polerin> I crave it. it's bizzare 14:12 * polerin nudges critch 14:12 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o remoford] by ChanServ 14:12 < wontonjoe> fuck it, shes gone i dont need to know, i found out what i needed now shes fucked, i give up, but if anyone wants to give it a go your more than welcome to the url 14:13 < wontonjoe> for non illegal purposes ya know lol 14:13 < polerin> wontonjoe: heh 14:13 < polerin> it's healthier to just let it go 14:13 < wontonjoe> it really is unfortunately i kept bouncing over to her page each day 14:13 <@baudburn> wontonjoe: huh? 14:13 < wontonjoe> i knew i shouldnt, but now it has two private entries labeled new and then ??? 14:13 < polerin> though I do highly reccomend you look up xss attacks and javascript insertion attacks 14:14 < wontonjoe> im going to just to learn if nothing else 14:14 < polerin> because they are really interesting 14:14 <@Catonic> baudburn: wontonjoe is now single. 14:14 <@Catonic> unfortunately, he's turning into 14:14 <@baudburn> wontonjoe: were you dating or married? 14:14 <@Catonic> sting. 14:15 < wontonjoe> dating 14:15 <@baudburn> well, that's a bit better anyway 14:15 <@baudburn> sorry man 14:15 <@baudburn> what happened? 14:16 < wontonjoe> id rather not go over it again right now, she was planning on marrying another guy thats all 14:16 < wontonjoe> without me knowing 14:16 <@remoford> ouch 14:16 <@Corydon76-dig> that's just fucked up 14:16 <@baudburn> gosh 14:16 < wontonjoe> keylogged found out through myspace, unfortunately that pass is changed now 14:16 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: I'd never do you that way 14:16 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 14:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 14:16 <@Catonic> I told you you shouldn't have told them about the keystroke logger... 14:17 < wontonjoe> ya i wont deny im having some emotional issues right now, but i have been trying to keep them off your guys ears 14:17 < wontonjoe> i know catonic 14:17 < polerin> heh 14:17 <@Catonic> http://sadly-missed.com/resources/seven_stages_of_grief.php <- where are you now wonton? 14:17 < wontonjoe> but it at the time was to seal things back up so i couldnt go back ing, now tha the door is shut i want back in for some unlogical reason 14:17 < polerin> (sorry don't meen to laugh, but yeah, ... don't ever tell them about the keylogger) 14:18 < wontonjoe> catonic i dont know, the drinking smoking wish i had some hardcore drugs stage? 14:18 < wontonjoe> i dont do drugs 14:18 <@Catonic> wontonjoe: come to birmingham, we can accomodate... 14:18 < wontonjoe> lol 14:18 < wontonjoe> i think the topic new just stabs, but i know i need to find someone better, i 14:19 <@baudburn> yeah, fuck that 14:19 <@baudburn> anyone who'd do something like that isn't worth the time of day 14:19 < wontonjoe> i know 14:19 <@baudburn> that's some fucking trailer park shit 14:19 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: that's worse than trailer park 14:20 < wontonjoe> 3 years, emotions are going to clean up slowly 14:20 <@Catonic> you should meet her mom... 14:20 < wontonjoe> shit i want to see this blog 14:20 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: that's con artist shit 14:20 < wontonjoe> they are awful now that i saw hoiw they acted in the end catonic 14:20 <@Catonic> baud had it right... 14:20 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: depending on how contrived it is, it might be trailer park con-artist shit 14:20 <@Catonic> it's trailer park shit... they aren't people who will escape the trailer park. 14:21 < wontonjoe> ok ill be back in several minutes give me something good to scroll back to lol 14:21 <@baudburn> heh 14:21 <@baudburn> i can't imagine that.. that's crazy 14:22 <@baudburn> where does wontonjoe live? 14:22 <@Catonic> Al-A-BAMA! 14:22 * dc0de is away: buried in F5 data 14:22 <@baudburn> ahh.. for some reason i want to confuse him with nachoguy and think he's in chicago 14:23 -!- nightcarnage [n=nightcar@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:23 <@brimstone> wontonjoe wants to be in chicago 14:23 <@baudburn> i'd give my left nut to have a life/have grown up in berlin 14:23 <@baudburn> heh 14:24 < polerin> grr 14:24 < polerin> all these JS toolkits blow donkies 14:25 <@rhia> wontonjoe: just please don't start singing: 14:25 <@rhia> http://www.overheardeverywhere.com/archives/002461.html 14:26 <@nachoguy> yeah, I'm the one with the mor eor less sane home life. I am however looking to find a new job, so it's wontonjoe-esque 14:27 <@baudburn> heh 14:27 <@rhia> one for dasunt, too: 14:27 <@rhia> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080229/hl_afp/healthjapansciencealcoholdrinkoffbeat;_ylt=AgPSUYAwNNj.l5aKwusziv4R.3QA 14:27 <@baudburn> nachoguy: how do you like chicago? 14:27 <@rhia> ~minilink 14:27 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/yahoo.com/ueDPk 14:27 <@nachoguy> baudburn, it's good, just right now I think I need a new job 14:28 <@nachoguy> I'm the subject of a witch hunt 14:28 <@rhia> nachoguy: display pentacles around your cube 14:29 < polerin> heh 14:29 < polerin> nachoguy: that sucks. 14:29 <@nachoguy> yeah 14:29 <@baudburn> nachoguy: there's a chance we might move to chicago or NY after b's done with residency 14:29 <@baudburn> i want to live in a *real city* with real public transit 14:30 <@baudburn> i fucking hate driving. 14:30 <@nachoguy> it's not going to get better, we're understaffed, and I know some people on my team are on their way out 14:30 <@baudburn> how well does the el work in chicago? 14:30 <@nachoguy> baudburn, it you're planning on living in the city proper, then it's no issue 14:30 <@nachoguy> lots of people don't even have cars 14:30 <@baudburn> yeah, we would be 14:30 <@baudburn> awesome. 14:31 <@nachoguy> one of my coworkers was going to get rid of his, but he's planning on up and heading to SF in a few months, so he's going to hold onto it for now 14:31 <@baudburn> hehe 14:31 <@baudburn> nice 14:31 <@nachoguy> The El is going under some construction right now, but ti still works pretty damn good 14:32 <@baudburn> is it all above ground? 14:32 -!- Goat21_Out [n=Goat3003@198.146.62.148] has joined #se2600 14:32 <@rhia> baudburn: hey, we have DART - lol 14:32 <@nachoguy> Zipcar is in town, so if you need to drive, you can borrow one 14:32 < Goat21_Out> back 14:32 <@Corydon76-dig> wb, Goat 14:32 < Goat21_Out> thx 14:32 < Goat21_Out> one more class to sit through... 14:32 <@Catonic> http://www.overheardeverywhere.com/archives/000112.html <- NIIIICE 14:33 <@nachoguy> not all, some is underground 14:33 <@Catonic> http://www.overheardeverywhere.com/pages/mostpopular.html 14:33 < polerin> yeah I want to live in a real city too 14:33 < polerin> hmm 14:33 < polerin> having something like an El would be awesome 14:33 <@Catonic> hey, can anyone recommend a decent hotel near the airport in BNA? 14:34 <+coil> the hilton 14:34 <@Catonic> s/decent/decent and cheap/ 14:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Hotel or motel? 14:34 <@baudburn> rhia: DART is great, if i worked at TI 14:34 < Goat21_Out> Corydon know's all the motels in the area for some reason... 14:34 <@baudburn> or downtown 14:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Goat21_Out: might be all the conferences I attend 14:35 < Goat21_Out> might be...might...be... 14:35 <+coil> i know one hotel 14:35 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: what's the diff? 14:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: quality 14:36 <@Catonic> most of waht I'm seeing right now is like $70 a night... 14:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Motel, then 14:36 <@brimstone> dig is a fun tool 14:37 <@Corydon76-dig> There's a few on Donelson Pike at I-40... that's within walking distance of the terminal 14:37 <@Catonic> chains... red roof, etc.. 14:37 <@Catonic> actual venue is the ymca camp. 14:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Not that you would walk, but you could 14:37 <+coil> 20 14:37 <+coil> i 20 14:37 <@rhia> baudburn: or you can take 3 hrs to ride a bus <8 miles 14:38 <@baudburn> rhia: *sigh* 14:38 <@baudburn> the great thing about dallas is everything costs approximatly $1.50 14:39 <@baudburn> a house? just a little more than $1.50.. lunch? maybe a little less than 1.50 14:39 <@baudburn> heh 14:39 <@brimstone> gallon of gas? gallon of milk? box of shells? 14:39 <@baudburn> yeah, about a $1.50 14:39 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 14:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 14:43 < Goat21_Out> I should probally go shopping in dallas... 14:44 <+coil> no dallass 14:45 <@baudburn> heh 14:45 <@baudburn> all i'm saying is, it's cheap as shit here to live 14:45 <+coil> here? 14:46 <@baudburn> but we pay for it in other ways like having to drive everywhere and living in texas.. 14:46 <@baudburn> i live in dallas 14:46 <+coil> what's bad about texas 14:47 <@baudburn> i'm not going to get into a fight, but i don't like texas because 1) it's very red 2) it's very gun crazy 3) everything is so spaced out you have to drive 30-45 minutes to get anywhere 4) you have to drive everywhere 14:47 <@baudburn> 5) you have to drive everywhere 14:47 <@Catonic> and DPS are some mothers and don't even THINK of speeding. 14:48 <@dc0de> baudburn, drive over here and say that! 14:48 <@dc0de> :P 14:48 < Goat21_Out> it's gun crazy? 14:48 <@dc0de> I like to visit dallas, but I'm not a big fan of 'staying' there. 14:48 <@baudburn> dallas is very comfortable.. 14:48 < Goat21_Out> are gun's only 1.50 as well?! 14:48 < Goat21_Out> i'm sooo there 14:49 <@baudburn> its "nice" in the sense that it's clean and affordable 14:49 <+coil> i like driving 14:49 <@Catonic> an armed society is a police society 14:49 <@dc0de> baudburn, agreed... 14:49 <@baudburn> i just don't like the fact that texas is about 99.5% suburbia 14:49 <+coil> and i haven't had to exirence of getting pulled over by dps yet 14:49 <@baudburn> or open fields 14:49 <@baudburn> and dallas is no exception 14:49 <+coil> had the expirence*( 14:49 <@baudburn> and i fucking abhore suburbia 14:49 <+coil> i like it wide open 14:50 <@baudburn> s/abhore/abhor/ 14:50 <@dc0de> coil, go to nebraska then. 14:50 <+coil> no dc0de 14:50 <+coil> i like the heat 14:50 <@Catonic> I love driving. But I like curves too. 14:50 <+coil> dc0de: there wasn't a winter here, just a few cold nights 14:51 <+coil> i do wanna goto dallas one day 14:51 <@baudburn> coil: don't get me wrong, dallas is nice.. 14:51 <@baudburn> its like a version of houston that's less sprawled and sucks less 14:51 < Goat21_Out> you will...one day...you will...tickets start at just 1.50 14:51 <@baudburn> with less polution 14:51 <+coil> baudburn: you like bigger citty that is more compact 14:51 <@baudburn> coil: yeah, i like population density 14:51 <@baudburn> it supports things like mass transit 14:52 <+coil> oh, dallas doesn't have anything besides bus? 14:52 <@baudburn> and the ability to not have to drive everywhere 14:52 <@baudburn> coil: yeah, it has a lightrail 14:52 <@baudburn> but it doesnt work because everything is too far spread out 14:52 <+coil> but that's not good enogh 14:52 <@baudburn> right. 14:52 < Goat21_Out> you know what houston needs? More suburbs, and less mass transit 14:52 < Goat21_Out> =P 14:52 <@baudburn> heh 14:52 <+coil> no houston is too big 14:53 <@baudburn> i think ultimatly, the root of my difference of opinion is i don't believe that bigger is better 14:53 <+coil> baudburn: the people sure are "bigger" in tx 14:54 <@baudburn> no doubt heh 14:54 <+coil> in the fatass kind of way 14:54 <@baudburn> not as much in dallas 14:54 <+coil> yes, more in sa in houston 14:54 <@baudburn> there's quite a few fit people here.. yeah, way more in sa and houston 14:55 <+coil> houston #1 for fatass 14:55 <@Shadow_Phone> coil: yourself included? 14:55 <+coil> no Shadow_Phone 14:55 <+coil> Shadow_Phone: theres people here that can eat me 14:55 <@Shadow_Phone> ..... 14:55 <@baudburn> vandy girls and dallas girls look nearly the same.. phenotypically identical 14:56 <@Catonic> you must be in heaven. 14:56 < Goat21_Out> just when you thought you had got away... 14:57 <+coil> baudburn: you live by riha? 14:57 <@Catonic> isn't a coil what the dog left on the lawn in the morning? 14:57 <+coil> ya man Catonic 14:58 <@baudburn> Catonic: no, i don't really like that look all that much.. its boring 14:58 <@Catonic> http://www.overheardeverywhere.com/archives/001013.html 14:58 <@baudburn> i'm not saying it's bad.. 14:58 <@baudburn> coil: yeah, very close.. about 5 minute drive away 14:59 <+coil> what part of dfw area 14:59 <@Catonic> baudburn: it's all just the same and banal at that. 14:59 <@baudburn> i live off lower greenville 14:59 <@baudburn> Catonic: exactly.. and deals off if you have nothing interesting to say.. which is another characterstic 15:00 <@baudburn> btw: +5 points for using banal.. good word 15:00 <@baudburn> coil: we bought a place where we could walk most of the time to pretend we were in a real city.. :) 15:00 <+coil> hahaha 15:01 <@baudburn> we have a whole foods, lots of bars, clubs, restaurants, and a music venue within walking distance 15:01 <@baudburn> and the fact that we could afford it, is one reason that dallas is a good place.. 15:01 -!- Goat21_Out [n=Goat3003@198.146.62.148] has quit [] 15:01 <@baudburn> so there's that 15:01 <+coil> i wanna look for a house 15:02 <@baudburn> we have a townhouse.. but we really love it 15:02 <+coil> im tired of being in section 8 apts 15:02 <@Catonic> we have some brand-new apartments in downtown that are section 8. 15:02 <@baudburn> what's section 8? 15:03 <@Catonic> poor people housing. 15:03 <+coil> and i still have to pay full price 15:03 <@baudburn> oh.. like the buildings with the numbers on the side.. 15:03 <+coil> no baudburn 15:03 <+coil> it's just mainly katrina people that live here 15:03 <@Catonic> it isn't projects, it's apartments that have some money kicked in by the feds to rent them to poor people at a lower rate 15:03 <+coil> so you have that attitude lingering around here 15:04 <@baudburn> coil: ahh 15:04 <@Catonic> and they have no incentive to take care of the place, or deal with thier own demons, so they usually trash the place. 15:04 <@baudburn> i knew a guy that lived there 15:04 <@baudburn> in houston 15:04 <+coil> Catonic: it's not TOO bad of a pos place, they still fix shit when we bitch 15:04 <@baudburn> he said that after NO dumped everyon into houston, it got way worse.. mroe crime, more shootings, teh whole place went down the tubes 15:04 <+coil> but it's usually mexicans that dont know what they're doing fixing shit... 15:05 <+coil> oh definitely baudburn 15:06 <@Catonic> not entirely unexpected... FEMA relocations tend to rip apart the fabric that makes cohesive and quiet communities 15:07 <@Catonic> people refuse to meet and greet neighbors, and take an attitude against them 15:07 <+coil> nah i dont hate anyone around here...they're just annoying blasting music and breaking into peoples apts 15:08 <@baudburn> Catonic: this guy left houston after some dudes came in to the restaurant he was at, barred teh doors, robbed the store and everyone in it 15:08 <@baudburn> in broad daylight. 15:08 <@brimstone> EVERYBODY STAY COOL THIS IS A ROBBERY! 15:08 <@baudburn> noon lunch rush. 15:08 <@Catonic> was he from NOLA? were the criminals? 15:09 <@baudburn> he wasn't.. teh crimnals.. probably 15:09 <@baudburn> shit like that never happend pre katrina 15:09 <+coil> it's those damn no 15:09 <+coil> i hate la 15:09 <@baudburn> it happened to the same restaurant twice, i heard.. 15:09 <+coil> it's the worst state, and the people suck that come from there 15:09 <@baudburn> can't verify that claim though 15:09 <@Catonic> I agree with his assertion then. 15:09 <@baudburn> yeah, like britney 15:10 <@Catonic> Lousiana isn't the worst state, they just have some attitiudes that aren't as cohesive as other think. 15:10 <@Catonic> britney is a product of the same machine that made michael jackson 15:11 <@baudburn> why is it that she sucks so hard, and michael, while crazy, is still the king of pop 15:11 <@Catonic> though at this point, I think every man, woman and child in the US has seen britney's snatch 15:11 <@Catonic> baudburn: because she'll still fuck a man who's passed through puberty, whereas michael is only interested in those who haven't. 15:12 <@baudburn> heh 15:12 <+coil> hahaahah 15:29 < polerin> anyone had any experience with Adobe AIR or anything like it yet? 15:31 <@dc0de> How do you know it's time for Bed in Michael Jackson's Neverland? 15:31 < polerin> :P 15:31 < polerin> OLD JOKE 15:31 <@ShadowHntr> BAD JOKE 15:31 <@ShadowHntr> :P 15:31 <@dc0de> When the Big hand touches the Little hand... 15:31 < polerin> Whats the difference between Michael jackson and a big Mac? 15:31 <@brimstone> lol 15:32 <@dc0de> ? 15:32 <@tzanger> *sighs* 15:32 < polerin> there is none. They are both a 45 year old meat between 8 year old buns :P 15:32 <@brimstone> oh, gross 15:33 < polerin> :P 15:34 <@tzanger> hhaha 15:41 <+coil> polerin: HAHAHA 15:41 -!- unixfag [i=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has left #se2600 [] 15:45 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"] 15:55 <@dc0de> going home... 15:55 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:55 <@Evilpig> !minicity 15:56 <@brimstone> Population: 18229 Revenues: 4249200 Unemployment: 1% Transports: 99% Criminality: 1% Pollution: 1% 15:56 <@Evilpig> removed the xxx from xxx part? 15:56 <@brimstone> no, some error 15:56 <@brimstone> Population: 18229 Revenues: 4249200 Unemployment: 1% Transports: 99% Criminality: 1% Pollution: 1% 3720 ahead of beltegueuse 15:58 <@Evilpig> well isn't that nifty. we are gaining ground over that guy again 15:58 <@brimstone> yup 15:58 <@brimstone> not as fast as before though 15:58 <@Evilpig> at least we aren't losing ground like we were 15:58 <+coil> oops 15:58 <+coil> my scirpts aren't running 15:58 <@brimstone> huh 15:58 <@brimstone> we've not saturated the tor then 16:00 <+coil> for some reason, my server keeps rebooting 16:09 <@Evilpig> I blame gremlins 16:10 <@tzanger> they always get blamed 16:10 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 16:12 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.42] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:14 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 16:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 16:15 <@ShadowHntr> Evilpig: gremlins and dust bunnies. they're always the ones that are blamed. :) 16:15 <@Evilpig> maybe they are just hanging out in the wrong places then 16:20 <@critch> yep, those damned dust bunnies want to hang out in front of my air vents blocking the flow. 16:23 <@Evilpig> my manager is a fucking retard. http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/napervillesun/news/795659,6_1_NA15_STACY_S1.article 16:23 <@Evilpig> feel free to call her and tell her 16:24 < polerin> critch: any experience with Adobe AIR or Jquery? 16:24 <@critch> nope 16:26 <@critch> Evilpig: how does your managers retardedness link to that story? 16:26 <@Evilpig> that's her name and cell phone number 16:26 <@Evilpig> in a chicago newspaper 16:26 <@Evilpig> do the math now. my manager in west ky..... phone number in a chicago newspaper.... 16:29 <@critch> I want to SLAP the shit out of the Avocent people. WTF, they have a admin user by default with no password that seems to reinstall itself everytime you reboot the machine. 16:29 < polerin> .. 16:29 < polerin> what the hell? 16:29 <+MxZBot> what are you all asleep? 16:44 <@Catonic> critch: that can be arranged. I know someone in support over there... 16:45 <@critch> Well, I just figured out how to at least set up the password for the Admin user so that it survives a reboot. That makes me happier than a wide open port for anyone to wander by and see our console. 16:47 <@Shadow_Phone> ... 16:51 * Shadow_Phone has to keep himself from making a comment of that 16:52 <@nachoguy> that bar that they're having the benefit at, I used to live like 2 miles from there 16:52 <@nachoguy> it's a different sort of place 16:52 <@Evilpig> it takes a different sort of dumbass to arrange a benefit for a girl that is most likely dead 500 miles away from where you live 16:53 <@nachoguy> yeah, why/how'd she get involved with this? 16:53 <@critch> bleeding hearts bleed anywhere 16:54 <@Catonic> for a good time, call 270-227-5720, ask for "Crystal" 16:55 <@Evilpig> who really fuckin' knows. but I instend on calling that number when I leave work with my number blocked and asking her how much of the cash she owes me is getting wasted on this "event" 16:56 <@Evilpig> s/instend/intend/g 16:56 <@I-MOD> ....gone since october 16:56 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 16:57 <@Evilpig> but now I know why she never answers the phone at the office when I call here to get number for customers and shit 16:57 <@Catonic> Hey, I'm running out of bait to shark fish with... 16:57 <@I-MOD> 3 options: dead, left her husband/children/life, is being kept in a hole and forced to rub lotion into her skin 16:57 <@Evilpig> Catonic: cut ware, tie a rope around him waste. catch shark 16:57 <@Catonic> Evilpig: obviously you don't grasp that work is something you do, but life is something you live. 16:58 <@Catonic> you manager is a sociopath. 16:58 <@Evilpig> I grasp that dumbass not doing job, and boss finds newspaper article typically means you're fired. 16:58 <@brimstone> Evilpig: "his waist" not "him waste" ? 16:58 <@Catonic> you know, it would be an absolute tradgedy if that was to wind up in the boss's inbox, delivered directly to the store through an anonymous source. 16:58 <@Evilpig> yes yes his waist. 16:59 <@Evilpig> fingers move faster than brain proofreads 16:59 <@Evilpig> Catonic: he is the reason I have the link 16:59 <@Evilpig> he gave it to me 16:59 <@Catonic> and she's not fired? 16:59 <@Evilpig> not yet. they usually wait for someone to come into the office for that 17:00 <@Evilpig> since there are keys to collect and alarm codes to change, etc 17:01 <@Evilpig> oh it's 5. time to head to the house 17:07 -!- MudFlap [n=asdf@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 17:21 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 17:23 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 17:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 17:43 <@dasunt> I'm moving to Canada. 17:43 <@dasunt> Fuck it. 17:43 <@dasunt> Alberta. 17:44 <@dasunt> Someone is telling me about an entry level apprentice electrician job, $1100/week after taxes. 17:44 <@dasunt> Room & board provided. 17:44 <@brimstone> dasunt: if you move to canada for an IT position (or 3d modeling) you don't have to get a work visa 17:44 <@someninjamaster> but thats canadian dollers 17:44 <@ShadowHntr> someninjamaster: still not bad... 17:44 <@dasunt> someninjamaster: So about the same as American dollars now? :p 17:44 <@ShadowHntr> even after exchange rate 17:45 <@someninjamaster> im not sure how much i believe that 17:45 <@dasunt> $1 US = $1.02 Can. 17:45 <@someninjamaster> you may end up like the chineese in vancover 17:45 <@someninjamaster> still waiting for that boat home 17:45 <@ShadowHntr> what's wrong with Vancouver 17:46 <@someninjamaster> after 100 years 17:46 <@someninjamaster> when they built the lions gate bridge 17:46 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: Perhaps there's such a thing as too much pot... 17:46 <@ShadowHntr> ROFLMAO 17:46 <@someninjamaster> they promised them a ride home 17:46 <@someninjamaster> they are still waiting 17:46 <@brimstone> 1100 CAD = 1118.7000 USD 17:46 <@sasquatc4> 1$ may equal 1.02 CDN but last time i checked some things were still more expensive there to begin with 17:47 <@sasquatc4> the exchange rate doesnt mean much if you dont put purchasing power behind it 17:47 <@brimstone> purchasing power of a hemi 17:49 <@someninjamaster> i still dont believe that 17:49 <@someninjamaster> they must really really be hurting for help 17:50 <@someninjamaster> assumming thats a 40 hours week that 27.50 an hour 17:50 <@someninjamaster> for an entry level position 17:51 <@tcstool> Good lord, that's not half bad 17:53 <@sasquatc4> depends on what your doing, alot of people make that first year out of college, so if you have equivalent experience, why not 17:54 <@dasunt> someninjamaster: Think oil fields. 17:54 <@dasunt> Alberta's economy is booming. 17:54 <@someninjamaster> yeah but holy shit 17:55 <@tcstool> I don't think the majority of college kids make $57,200 a year their first year out in the work force 17:56 <@tcstool> Not even factoring that it's hourly and the probably get OT as well 17:56 <@someninjamaster> yeah 17:56 <@sasquatc4> like i said, depends what your doing, alot of the engineering and science majors do 17:58 <@someninjamaster> a certified electrician is making 56,000 a year 17:58 <@dasunt> I should be making that. 17:58 <@someninjamaster> according to this sight 17:58 <@dasunt> $57,200 / year. 17:58 <@dasunt> Admittedly, that might mean working for a living. 17:58 <@someninjamaster> so they may me missleading you on the apprentice 17:59 <@tcstool> Yeah 18:00 <@tcstool> I think the positions that make that much cash that fast involve doing more hard work than I'm interested in 18:00 <@dasunt> It is probably a lot of grunt work. 18:00 <@dasunt> But that's what apprentices in a lot of fields seem to be. 18:01 <@ShadowHntr> Alberta is no longer the middle of nowhere. 18:01 <@tcstool> Well shoot even if a certified electrician makes that much, I wouldn't do that kind of work 18:02 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: It is an happening place in the middle of a cold frozen tundra. :p 18:02 <@sasquatc4> should talk to goat, im pretty sure he was doing an electrician apprenticeship for a long time 18:02 <+coil> omg 18:02 <@dasunt> OTOH, from what I hear, in parts of Alberta, you're more or less fucked for housing. 18:02 <+coil> sooo many wasps outside 18:02 <@ShadowHntr> dasunt: in some ways true. 18:02 <@ShadowHntr> coil: little fuckers. i hate those things. 18:03 <@ShadowHntr> their bite is just as bad as their sting. :P 18:03 <+coil> wasps and hornets 18:03 <+coil> keep making their nests by the front and back door 18:03 <@tcstool> That is very true, I have a friend who moved out there, and the real eastate costs are pretty insane 18:03 <@ShadowHntr> i'm scared to death of those things. 18:03 <+coil> keep having to swat them down 18:03 <+coil> ShadowHntr: yes i am too 18:03 <@ShadowHntr> i have a few friends in Calgary. 18:03 <@ShadowHntr> :) 18:05 <@dasunt> coil: Ha ha! You aren't in the frozen north! 18:05 <@dasunt> Sure, you aren't freezing right now, but you now see the flaw in your plan... 18:05 <+coil> dasunt: they're fun to kill 18:05 <+coil> i need to buy more spray shit 18:05 <@ShadowHntr> anyone here tried FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE yet? i'm thinking about trying it out. 18:05 <+coil> they drop like flies on that 18:06 * Catonic tapes ShadowHntr's mouth shut with a SAN disk 18:06 * ShadowHntr rips it off and screams :P 18:21 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 18:26 <@Shadow_Phone> Catonic: i thought you were busy jacking off to hot or not.com 18:36 <@sdodson> why the spaces? 18:38 <@Shadow_Phone> i dont know 18:38 <@Shadow_Phone> i felt like it ok 18:42 <@sdodson> Shadow_Phone: Please, tell us more about how you feel. 18:44 <@ShadowHntr> uh oh 18:44 <@ShadowHntr> he's going into Eliza mode. 18:44 <@ShadowHntr> :) 18:45 <@Shadow_Phone> that or dr. sbaintso 18:46 <@Shadow_Phone> *sbaitso 18:48 <@sdodson> who the fuck is that? 18:53 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 18:55 <+coil> dc0de: comes to save the day 18:55 * dc0de looks around 18:55 <@sdodson> coil: don't tell him 18:55 <@dc0de> whaaaa? 19:07 -!- Rious [n=rious@projectnexus.org] has joined #se2600 19:12 <@Shadow_Phone> sdodson: you obviously never had a soundblaster original 19:14 <@sdodson> http://www.amazon.com/Playmobil-3172-Security-Check-Point/dp/B0002CYTL2/?r the tags and comments are great 19:15 * coil lights up 19:22 <@sdodson> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7268693.stm plop plop fizz fizz 19:27 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:31 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:54 -!- GodFix [n=GodFix@vnhlil-l10-258.dsl.tds.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]"] 19:59 <@dc0de> how did I miss this? 19:59 <@dc0de> http://improveverywhere.com/2008/02/25/mobile-desktop/ 20:00 <+coil> hahahah dc0de bad ass 20:01 <@dc0de> they do some cool ass shit. 20:01 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o remoford] by ChanServ 20:10 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-69-254-12-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:16 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:22 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-69-254-12-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]"] 20:58 <@Catonic> dasunt: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080229/hl_afp/healthjapansciencealcoholdrinkoffbeat 21:18 <+coil> damnit, i cannot install these sata hd's cuz i dont have sata cables 21:19 <@dc0de> coil, just make some 21:19 <+coil> hmm 21:19 <@dc0de> just cut down some ide cables. 21:19 <+coil> what about the connector 21:19 <+coil> solder the wires to it? 21:20 <@dc0de> I would use super glue 21:28 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:30 <+coil> or i could just buy new cables at 200% markup 21:44 <@dasunt> Catonic: <_< 21:44 <@dasunt> I see your link and glare at it. 21:49 <@dasunt> http://www.boingboing.net/2008/02/28/billboard-liberation-1.html 21:50 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:54 -!- ShadowHntr [i=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 21:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 22:01 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 22:02 <@someninjamaster> evening all 22:03 <@ShadowHntr> evening 22:05 <@ShadowHntr> anyone know which connector is used on SAS disks? There are several. 22:05 <@ShadowHntr> I'm assuming this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SFF_8087.jpg 22:06 <@Catonic> ShadowHntr: ask me tomorrow 22:06 <@ShadowHntr> cool thanks 22:06 <@ShadowHntr> trying out SAS in a small environment could give me some additional skills :) 22:06 <@ShadowHntr> in the [near] future 22:07 <@Catonic> dude... it's just another drive technology 22:07 <@Catonic> it's not like SATA/PATA vs SAN... there isn't anything unique to it 22:07 <@dc0de> Catonic, shhh, let him linger in the moment first. 22:08 <@ShadowHntr> heh dc0de 22:08 <@ShadowHntr> given the interface on SAS host bus adapters, i want to be able to choose the appropriate breakout cable for a particular use. 22:09 <@Catonic> what do you get when you put ware, dasunt, and ShadowHntr together on the same channel at the same time? 22:09 <@dc0de> three of the most brilliant computer minds in the world. 22:09 <@ShadowHntr> an idiot that can't hold a job and gets kicked by SkyDog_ whenever he's in a bad mood? 22:09 <@ShadowHntr> oh. 22:09 <@Catonic> I was going to say it gives me a headache, but whatever works for you... 22:13 <@ShadowHntr> the reason i'm asking is 22:13 <@ShadowHntr> i see a *very* cheap SAS card on ebay $40 22:13 <@ShadowHntr> and 73gb sas disks for 60 bucks 22:13 <@ShadowHntr> i'd like to eventually set up a workstation with 3 73gb sas disks 22:13 <@brimstone> SAS ~ scsi? 22:13 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr, there are now 1TB SAS drives selling at Frys. 22:13 <@ShadowHntr> and have room for sata as well on the same card 22:14 <@dc0de> 73Gb is chump 22:14 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: not in my price range, though... 22:14 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone: Serial Attached SCSI 22:14 <@dc0de> that's why the smaller drives are cheaper now. 22:14 <@brimstone> ah 22:14 <@ShadowHntr> http://cgi.ebay.com/LSI-Logic-SAS-SAS3080X-HP-PCI-X-133-3-Gb-s-Adapter_W0QQitemZ300202746281QQihZ020QQcategoryZ44990QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 22:15 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not gonna buy right away, but i'd like to try it out so i can learn more about it on the physical side, cable types, software compatibility, etc. 22:17 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has joined #se2600 22:18 <@Catonic> hi korc 22:19 <@Catonic> how's the vicky? 22:35 <@sdodson> There are not 1TB SAS drives. 22:36 <@sdodson> There's nothing interesting about the cabling, it's sata cables. There's nothing interesting about the software, it's a SCSI controller. 22:36 <+coil> atatastasttats 22:37 <@dc0de> sdodson, no, but 1TB SATA is. 22:37 <@sdodson> But you said SAS yoz 22:37 <@dc0de> yur right... I made goof 22:41 <@sdodson> hmm, maybe that is a multilane connector 22:42 -!- Scotchick [n=Scot_chi@c-76-20-208-226.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 22:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Scotchick] by ChanServ 22:42 <@Scotchick> evening all 22:43 <@Scotchick> been a while but wanted to say hi 22:45 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: the controllers that handle large numbers of disks have high density connectors that can handle 4 disks on a single cable 22:45 <@ShadowHntr> however they can break out to SATA compatible cables as well 22:45 <@sdodson> Hey have to break out to that or a back plane. 22:46 <@dc0de> sdodson, bitmicro unveils a 1TB Solid State disk. 22:46 <@ShadowHntr> yeah unfortunately my use won't have a backplane. 22:46 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: damn! must be expensive. :P 22:46 <@dc0de> http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid5_gci1298543,00.html 22:46 <@ShadowHntr> but that would be *awesome* 22:46 <@dc0de> they don't say... 22:47 <@sdodson> http://www.lsi.com/documentation/storage/megaraid/SAS_IG.pdf has cabling guides. 22:47 <@ShadowHntr> and why LSI didn't give links from the HBAs I have no idea. 22:47 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: thakns for the link. i was working purely off the wikipedia article on SAS. i doubted that the SAS group would publish the SAS spec. 22:49 <@ShadowHntr> this is *exactly* what i was looking for. 22:50 <@sdodson> That looks like it's got four SFF 8484 22:51 <@ShadowHntr> yeah 22:51 <@ShadowHntr> i need to know what most disks have, cause i'd be going direct fromt he HBA to a disk 22:52 <@sdodson> hmm, that's not the same card 22:52 <@sdodson> All disks have the same connectors 22:52 <@sdodson> Well, some are dual port. 22:52 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/host_bus_adapters/sas_hbas/lsisas3080xr/index.html 22:53 <@sdodson> I guess that's it, I wonder what the R is 22:53 <@ShadowHntr> dunno all their models have that R suffix 22:53 <@ShadowHntr> retail kit? 22:53 <@ShadowHntr> vs oem? 22:56 <@sdodson> oh ya it even mentions the connector in the description 22:56 <@ShadowHntr> i see that 22:57 <@ShadowHntr> and i got that far 22:57 <@ShadowHntr> i was researching the appropriate cables 22:57 <@sdodson> I'd just get a fan out connector 22:57 <@ShadowHntr> yeah 22:57 <@ShadowHntr> i may never actually set up an SAS environment at home 22:57 <@ShadowHntr> but at least i'll know more 23:00 <@sdodson> *nod* 23:00 <@sdodson> I've never actually seen SAS where it's not been on a backplane 23:02 <@dasunt> Oh, it is the 11 pm - 1 am timeslot now. 23:02 <@dasunt> Time for the pity party. 23:02 <@dasunt> I'm sitting this one out though. 23:02 <@dasunt> Gotta sleep soon. 23:02 <+coil> i went ahead and got all the albums 23:02 <@dasunt> I got Warlock today. 23:03 <@sdodson> dasunt: who pitties who? 23:04 * dc0de is away: I'm busy 23:04 <@dasunt> sdodson: It is always self-pity. 23:04 <@dasunt> 'cept I'm not too good at that. 23:05 <+coil> dasunt: im drinking fifth night in a row 23:05 <+coil> am i cool yet? 23:05 <@dasunt> You aren't even in my league yet. 23:05 <+coil> aww 23:06 <+coil> dasunt: im trying really hard 23:06 <@dasunt> coil: Are you a bucket full off ennui yet? 23:07 <+coil> ? 23:07 <@dasunt> Er, full of ennui 23:07 <+coil> ennui? 23:07 <+coil> oh 23:07 <+coil> no 23:07 <@dasunt> One day, maybe. 23:07 <+coil> im actually pretty occupied irc'in 23:07 <+coil> and listening to music 23:07 <@dasunt> What's your liquor consumption this week? 23:08 <+coil> everclear and three bottles of vodka 23:08 <@sdodson> I thought you were sitting out this round of the pity party? 23:08 <+coil> never 23:08 <+coil> dasunt: you can't use big words with me because im retarded... 23:09 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: ibm boxes tend to use mini multilane 4 connectors 23:09 <@dasunt> sdodson: Ennui isn't pity. 23:09 <+coil> ya stfu sdodson 23:09 <+coil> lrn2enui. 23:10 <+coil> dasunt: im out of mixers 23:10 <+coil> i only have vodka left 23:10 <+coil> nothing else 23:10 <+coil> no soda, no oj 23:10 <+coil> no straw 23:11 <@dasunt> You should have planned better. 23:11 <+coil> dasunt: no im too lazy for planning 23:11 <@dasunt> What size bottles of vodka? 23:12 <+coil> the one im on now is 1L 23:12 <+coil> it's mccormick 23:12 <+coil> and the ones before 750mL 23:15 <@dasunt> You are outdrinking me. 23:20 <+coil> but now i ahve nothign to mix it with 23:20 <+coil> far too drunk to go outside :P 23:21 <+coil> i guess it's time to take shots with water chasers 23:24 <@dasunt> I'm a block away from the gas station. 23:24 <@dasunt> See. 23:24 <@dasunt> Live locally, you can always find mixers. 23:25 <+coil> i can walk to the gas...no wait they're probably closed now 23:25 <+coil> just missed my chance by talking about it on irc instead of actually doing something about it. 23:25 <@dasunt> Gas stations should be open all night. 23:25 <+coil> they are...not in walking distance 23:26 <@dasunt> Sucks to be you. 23:27 <+coil> no, water is good 23:28 -!- cwire [n=chatzill@c-69-254-12-37.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:31 -!- Netsplit clarke.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Feltenix, @ShadowHntr, @juice, @brookshire, timoguin, @brimstone, @critch, shadowmoss, +coil_, imhere2plzu, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:34 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ShadowHntr 23:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 23:34 <+coil> wb splitter 23:35 <+coil> brb, getting some water 23:35 <@ShadowHntr> yes 23:35 <@ShadowHntr> my CoverRx paperwork came in 23:35 <@ShadowHntr> i can go back on my Wellbutrin again ! 23:35 <@ShadowHntr> :D 23:37 <+coil> yay anti dep with sexual side effects! 23:37 <@I-MOD> unce unce unce 23:38 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- timoguin [n=timoguin@cpe-098-026-113-031.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- dasunt [n=dasunt@unaffiliated/dasunt] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- critch [n=critch@c-71-228-211-57.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- shadowmoss [n=shadowmo@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- MaxieZ [n=maxiez@maxiez.com] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+ooov brimstone dasunt critch MaxieZ] by irc.freenode.net 23:38 -!- adrenaline [n=repsol@wsip-68-15-180-76.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- imhere2plzu [i=w@dont.you.know.blackpeoplelove.us] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- juice [n=juice@76.2.185.69] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- coil_ [i=scott@24.96.135.212] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- brookshire [i=mbrooks@hijacked.us] has joined #se2600 23:38 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+ovo juice coil_ brookshire] by irc.freenode.net 23:38 <@ShadowHntr> must have tripped on a network cable :P 23:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: shadowmoss 23:39 -!- Netsplit clarke.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Feltenix, @brookshire, @juice, timoguin, @brimstone, +MaxieZ, @critch, imhere2plzu, +coil_, adrenaline, (+1 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 23:39 -!- Feltenix_ [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has joined #se2600 23:39 -!- imhere2plzu_ [i=w@dont.you.know.blackpeoplelove.us] has joined #se2600 23:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: timoguin 23:39 -!- dasunt [n=dasunt@24.236.44.231] has joined #se2600 23:39 -!- Netsplit over, joins: coil_, MaxieZ 23:39 -!- brookshire [n=mbrooks@65.172.243.127] has joined #se2600 23:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dasunt] by ChanServ 23:39 -!- critch [n=critch@209.149.59.3] has joined #se2600 23:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brookshire] by ChanServ 23:39 -!- adrenaline [n=repsol@68.15.180.76] has joined #se2600 23:39 < cwire> wow 23:40 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@c-71-207-165-130.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:40 -!- imhere2plzu_ is now known as imhere2plzu 23:40 -!- Netsplit over, joins: juice 23:40 < brimstone> wb! 23:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 23:40 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o juice] by ChanServ 23:42 <@dasunt> Damn, thhought we got rid of them. 23:42 <+coil> yeah i know 23:42 <+coil> wb liar brimstone 23:46 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:46 <+coil> dc0der 23:52 < cwire> sweet, i just found out we got our girlscout cookies today. love the thin mint mmmm 23:55 -!- Rious [n=rious@projectnexus.org] has quit ["[BX] Hrm... 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