--- Log opened Sat Feb 23 00:00:35 2008
00:18 <@dasunt> *stabs self*
00:19 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I love the south park episode that concerns that.
00:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Some of us don't watch South Park anymore
00:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Wait, is that the one where they get rid of Big Gay Al as Scoutmaster and replace him with a child molester?
00:24 <@dasunt> Yes.
00:25 <@Corydon76-dig> That episode wasn't particularly realistic.  Child molesters tend to go after kids whose parents are distant, and they keep their abuse away from the kids who communicate with their parents
00:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Which is also why abuse tends to go on for decades before it's discovered
00:28 <@dasunt> Quick question -- is that a trend of child molesters, or a trend of successful child molestors?
00:29 <@dasunt> With (presumably) the unsuccessful ones getting caught very early.
00:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Probably so
00:31 <@dasunt> Well, I'm awake now.
00:31 <@dasunt> Meh.
00:31 <+coil> hi dasunt
00:31 <@dasunt> Heya coil.
00:31 <+coil> im watching milo and otis
00:31 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm about to fall asleep, actually
00:31 <@dasunt> I'm getting drunk.
00:31 <+coil> what a suprise.
00:31 <@dasunt> Trying not to move.
00:32 <+coil> move where
00:32 <@dasunt> Physically.
00:32 <@dasunt> Due to the love of God and intelligent design, I get to inject myself occasionally.
00:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Difficult to drink without moving your arm
00:32 <@dasunt> So my leg's a tad sore.
00:33 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: if you were here, I could give you a massage
00:34 <+coil> lol
00:34 <+coil> could
00:34 <@dasunt> Damn.
00:34 <+coil> how are you gonna pass up that offer, dasunt
00:34  * Corydon76-dig gets out the Tiger Balm
00:34 <@dasunt> A large part of me is going "TRAP!  TRAP!  TRAP!" and a minor part is going "but it is a free massage!"
00:35 <+coil> you need some affection
00:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, I've got some Badger, too... and Biofreeze...
00:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Badger is what I've been using recently.  Doesn't chill you like Tiger Balm or Biofreeze
00:36 <@dasunt> I have no clue what you are talking about.
00:37 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: they're various sort muscle rubs
00:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Tiger is industrial strength stuff
00:38 <@dasunt> What do they do?
00:38 <@Corydon76-dig> You rub too much on your neck and you'll feel as if a breeze passed between your head and shoulders, where your neck used to be
00:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Biofreeze is a little less strong, but it still chills
00:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Badget is better for the winter months.  It's more a warming sensation, but it still helps on sore muscles
00:40 <@Corydon76-dig> www.badgerbalm.com
00:40 <@dasunt> My muscles are incredibly relaxed.
00:40 <@dasunt> I don't get knots in my back.
00:41 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.badgerbalm.com/pc-18-2-sore-muscle-rub.aspx
00:45 <@dasunt> Interesting.
00:45 <@dasunt> LOL:  http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/shr0176l.jpg
00:46 <@dasunt> You know what slightly disturbs me?
00:47 <@dasunt> Once the needle punctures the skin, there is surprisingly little resistance.
00:48 <+coil> yes it's weird, ain't it
00:49 <@dasunt> I also find it weird that when I pull back on the syringe, sometimes I get air.
00:49 <@dasunt> WTF?
00:50 <+coil> air in the needle
00:50 <+coil> and you didn't hit a vien
00:50 <@dasunt> Not this time.
00:50 <+coil> didn't stick it far enough in
00:50 <@dasunt> Well, that's why I pull back, what I take shouldn't be injected into an artery or vein.
00:50 <@dasunt> The length of the needle is about an inch.
00:51 <+coil> IM
00:51 <@dasunt> It goes in all the way.
00:51 <@dasunt> Yep, intra-muscular.
00:54 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: what are you injecting?
00:57 <+coil> diabeetus
00:58 <@dasunt> Not diabetes.
00:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Must be steroids, then
00:58 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I'm not going to say this in open channel, but depo-testerone.
00:59 <@dasunt> Shit.
00:59 <@dasunt> Well, guess I am.
00:59 <@dasunt> >_>
00:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Nice
01:00 <@dasunt> Well, that secret is out.
01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> If I wasn't so tired, I would have thought of steroids first
01:00 <@dasunt> Guess I shouldn't IRC while drunk.
01:00 <+coil> why dasunt
01:00 <+coil> why i dont get it
01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> They make excellent muscle relaxants
01:00 <@dasunt> coil: Genetic disorder.
01:00 <+coil> dasunt: are you worked up?
01:00 <+coil> genetic ?
01:01 <@dasunt> Yep.
01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> You can blame virtually anything on genetics
01:01 <@dasunt> The reason why I don't like saying what it is, is that it tends to either be in a minor form, or it is due to massive damage to the Y chromosome.
01:02 <@dasunt> Since I can use punctuation and capitalization, I'm assuming my case is inherited.
01:02 <+coil> down syndrome?
01:02 <@dasunt> Mp[e/
01:02 <@dasunt> Er. nope.
01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: so you're saying you're just barely human?  ;-)
01:03 <+coil> dasunt: are you a women?
01:03 <@dasunt> Well, I've looked at the cutting edge research, and it seems that what I have can be caused by damaging chromosomes in several different areas.
01:03 <@dasunt> So you have the minor cases like me, which probably wouldn't notice it.
01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> There's a case to be made that the Y chromosome is just a badly damaged X chromosome
01:03 <+coil> what do you have
01:04 <+coil> alcoholism?
01:04 <@dasunt> Then you got the "wow, someone totally fucked up your Y chromosome" cases.
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01:04 <@dasunt> coil: Was alcoholism ever in question?  :p
01:04 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: The Y chromosome has very few mechanisms for ensuring its integrity.
01:05 <+coil> sounds like windows
01:05 <@dasunt> It is kind of interesting how in mammals, males use the unmatched chromosome.
01:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, I'm headed to bed.
01:05 <@dasunt> While in other species, like birds, females have the unmatched chromosome.
01:05 <+coil> you have big dick?
01:05 <@dasunt> Assuming that males are expendable, I would say that the way mammals determine sex is a better way.
01:06 <@dasunt> I should say most mammals, since platypuses have an utterly fucked up way of determining sex.
01:06 <@dasunt> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/23/whitler123.xml <- The Sonny Bono copyright act supports Hitler!
01:07 <+coil> ????????
01:07 <@dasunt> coil: ???????? to what?  Platypuses?
01:07 <+coil> no
01:07 <+coil> what does the last like have to do with anything
01:08 <@dasunt> oh, something I just stumbled across.
01:08 <+coil> like=link
01:08 <@dasunt> I find it hillarious, on one level.
01:09 <@dasunt> Hitler:  Lead to the death of millions of people, but liked Snow White.
01:10 <@dasunt> But I guess it shows that Hitler was only human.
01:10 <@dasunt> It is nice to think of him as an inhuman monster, something that couldn't normally happen.
01:10 <+coil> i guess
01:11 <@dasunt> But other than his charisma and his grasp for power, he really probably wasn't that special.
01:11 <+coil> didn't he like meth or somethign?
01:11 <@dasunt> coil: His doctor had him on a drug "elixer" that included meth.
01:12 <+coil> mmmm meth ill take a glass of that
01:12 <@dasunt> His doctor would inject him with it.
01:12 <+coil> even better
01:12 <@dasunt> He was also a vegetarian sometimes for health reasons.
01:12 <+coil> sometimes? that's a bullshit roommate excuse
01:12 <@dasunt> And there is some speculation he might have been suffering from tertiary syphilis or Parkingson's disease.
01:12 <+coil> what about the hiter was gay thing?
01:13 <+coil> since you know so fucking much about hitler
01:13 <@dasunt> He had behaviors that some people linked to neurological disorders, and in Mein Kampf, he spends a few pages blaming the Jews for syphilis.
01:13 <@dasunt> coil: He probably wasn't gay.
01:13 <@dasunt> And yes, I do know a few things about Hitler.
01:14 <+coil> hs football coaches aren't really good at teaching history
01:14 <@dasunt> The Republic of Germany went utterly batshit insane.
01:14 <@dasunt> I find that fascinating, and I hope that a democracy never does that again, even though they have.
01:15 <@dasunt> coil: Hitler passed himself off as some superman, no women, no smoking, no meat, but other than the no smoking, he didn't seem to follow it.
01:15 <@dasunt> He had digestion problems (ulcers?  stress?) so he often avoided meat, but he liked things like sausage.
01:15 <@dasunt> And for women, he had Eva Braum.
01:15 <@dasunt> But he didn't smoke.
01:18 <+coil> moke
01:19 <@dasunt> I'm bored.
01:19 <@dasunt> Why are you up all night coil?
01:19 <+coil> im not
01:19 <+coil> it's 1 here
01:19 <@dasunt> It is only 1 am here.
01:19 <@dasunt> And I'm a tad drunk.
01:19 <+coil> stfu
01:19 <+coil> i could drink tonight
01:19 <@dasunt> I'm probably destroying my liver.
01:20 <@dasunt> Listening to the best late 80s/early 90s band that was forgotten.
01:20 <+coil> what
01:20 <@dasunt> Saigon Kick.
01:21 <+coil> dasunt: wanna drink with me
01:21 <@dasunt> I'm drinking right now, are you
01:21 <+coil> dasunt: gimme it
01:21 <@dasunt> Gin.
01:21 <+coil> no im not
01:21 <@dasunt> Karkov or whatnot.
01:21 <+coil> im watching a movie
01:21 <@dasunt> The problem with Saigon Kick, I think is that they were a poprock band that incorporated metal into a few of their songs, so they were considered metal.
01:22 <@dasunt> What movie?
01:22 <+coil> milo and otis.
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01:22 <@dasunt> coil: You sure you *aren't* drinking?
01:22 <+coil> that is correct, sir
01:22 <@dasunt> Why are you watching Milo & Otis?
01:23 <+coil> it seemed like a good idea at the time.
01:23 <@ShadowHntr> lol
01:23 <+coil> just ened
01:23 <+coil> ended
01:23 <@dasunt> coil: That excuse only works when you sleep with a hot chick that has herpes.
01:23 <+coil> dasunt: all we have is orange shit
01:24 <@dasunt> Milo & Otis requires you using drugs.
01:24 <+coil> like triple sec
01:24 <+coil> and orange vodka
01:24 <@dasunt> Triple Sec?
01:24 <@dasunt> Visit me, I have Real Booze.
01:24 <+coil> dasunt: im using drugs
01:24 <@dasunt> Cheap as well.
01:24 <+coil> er
01:24 <+coil> im stoned
01:24 <@dasunt> Lucky bastard.
01:24 <@dasunt> I want to be stoned.
01:24 <+coil> not real drugs like ketamine and mdma
01:25 <@dasunt> Pot is a real drug.
01:25 <+coil> damnit
01:25 <+coil> the oj was left out all night
01:25 <+coil> from last night dasunt
01:25 <+coil> is it still good?
01:25 <@dasunt> It may be alcoholic.  :p
01:26 <@dasunt> Also, I wouldn't drink it.
01:26 <+coil> damnit
01:26 <+coil> ruined my drink
01:26 <+coil> wtf am i gonna drink now
01:26 <@dasunt> Don't you have booze?
01:26 <@dasunt> Like good booze?
01:26 <+coil> oranga smirnoff twist and triple sec
01:26 <+coil> i didn't buy those
01:27 <+coil> i have some everclear though, but that's for a different project
01:27 <@dasunt> Everclear isn't booze.
01:27 <@dasunt> It is some sort of industrial strength cleanser.
01:27 <+coil> what the fuck you mean booze
01:28 <@dasunt> Booze is whatever I like.  :p
01:28 <+coil> wtf are you drinking then mother fucker
01:28 <+coil> dasunt: dont you wanna kno wwhat im gonna do with the everclear?
01:28 <@dasunt> coil: Make a firebomb?
01:28 <+coil> no
01:28 <+coil> green dragon
01:28 <+coil> its a drink
01:30 <@dasunt> I'm drinking about 2 parts Karkov gin (the cheap stuff), 3 parts club soda, and about 1 part lemon juice.
01:30 <@dasunt> How do you make a green dragon?
01:30 <+coil> wtf is karkov gin
01:30 <@dasunt> karkov is the brand name.
01:30 <@dasunt> It is about $12 for 1.75L.
01:31 <+coil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Dragon_%28drink%29
01:31 <@dasunt> Doesn't Everclear taste like shit?
01:32 <+coil> Another preparation, known colloquially as Green Monster, is prepared from two parts Mountain Dew, two parts Green Squall Powerade, and one part Everclear Green Dragon. Assuming a proof of 190(alcohol above 191 proof is impossible) on the spirits, the resulting beverage is still 40 proof, so caution should be exercised.
01:32 <+coil> Although Green Dragon can be consumed by itself, it is more often served mixed with other drinks, such as soft drinks, flavored waters and vanilla extract. A popular [3][4] recipe involves mixing 3 parts lemon-lime soda, 1 part Green Dragon and a dash of honey or sugar.
01:32 <@dasunt> That later part looks good.
01:33 <+coil> ur mom looks good
01:34 <@dasunt> <_<
01:34 <@sdodson> coil is a bartender?
01:35 <@dasunt> sdodson: If he is, I'd visit his bar.
01:35 <@dasunt> He has pot-booze.
01:36 <@ShadowHntr> one of my friends in DC is a licensed bartender
01:36 <@sdodson> i bet you want his klondike bar too
01:36 <@dasunt> I want his pot.
01:38 <+coil> wtf
01:38 <+coil> sdodson: might as well be
01:39 <@dasunt> http://gorgeous-women.blogspot.com/2007/08/most-ravishing-sexy-damsels-of-80s.html
01:39 <@dasunt> LoL.
01:39 <@dasunt> I remember most of those movies.
01:40 <@sdodson> cause you're old
01:40 <@dasunt> I am.
01:40 <@sdodson> the nudity detector keeps saying those all have nudity
01:40 <@dasunt> Better Off Dead is hillarious in its own way though.
01:41 <@dasunt> So is Night of the Comet, but for being so cheesy 80s horror-ish.
01:41 <@sdodson> http://www.trynt.com/trynt-image-nudity-api/ keeps telling me non nudes are nude
01:42 <@dasunt> sdodson: What are you trying to do?
01:42 <@sdodson> dasunt: I want a pony
01:42 <@dasunt> Not Yours.
01:43 <@sdodson> I'm feeding it images from your 80s women
01:45 <@dasunt> most-ravishing-sexy-damsels-of-80s.html http://gorgeous-women.blogspot.com/2007/08/most-ravishing-sexy-damsels-of-80s.html 3d7a49294c96c7e47d00d6e1d74df787 Low
01:46 <@sdodson> right cause you feed it an image not an html kthnx u sux
01:46 <@sdodson> http://www.trynt.com/image-nudity-api/v1/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fkindgirls.com%2Fgal094lop4%2Fevi_2020%2Fevi_2020_12.jpg&f=0  36.34 %
01:47 <@dasunt> someninjamaster: LOL.
01:47 <@dasunt> It takes the first image from that page (Meredith) and considers it a high possibility.
01:48 <@sdodson> I think you'll find the one I provided was most definitely more nude than the one you provided
01:48 <+coil> hi dasunt
01:48 <+coil> hi sdodson
01:48 <@sdodson> hi
01:48 <@dasunt> http://azahar.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/lolcat-faith-heealer.jpg
01:48 <@dasunt> ^- That ranks as "high"
01:49  * coil stabs fucking dasunt
01:49 <+coil> for the fucking god damned lolcats
01:49 <+coil> i wish the internet would block anything that had "lolcat" in it
01:49 <@sdodson> coil: angst much?
01:49 <@dasunt> Coil does not love pussy.
01:49 <+coil> no, only some times
01:50 <+coil> not like you both get some either
01:50 <@dasunt> I could.
01:50 <@sdodson> nope
01:50 <@dasunt> I'm just avoiding crazy.
01:50 <@dasunt> for the most part.
01:50 <+coil> dasunt: hookers dont have crazy
01:50 <+coil> they have hpv though
01:50 <+coil> and coke
01:50 <+coil> you like coke?
01:51 <@dasunt> No.  :(
01:51 <@sdodson> pepsi plz
01:51 <+coil> abstinthe
01:52 <@dasunt> absinthe is legal now.
01:52 <+coil> in usa/
01:53 <@dasunt> We are all Americans.
01:53 <+coil> hi dasunt
01:53 <+coil> ???????????????
01:53 <@dasunt> Anyone who isn't is a commie mutant traitor.
01:53 <+coil> criminal
01:53 <@dasunt> That too.
01:53 <+coil> yeah im a criminal
01:54 <+coil> tru dat.
01:55 <@dasunt> Commie mutant traitor doesn't bring up spiffy google search results.\
01:55 <@dasunt> Damn shame, it was a fun RPG.
01:55 <+coil> no
01:56 <@dasunt> It was!
01:56 <@dasunt> How can you not like that game?
01:57 <+coil> I'll shit on you.
01:57 <@dasunt> Are you a commie mutant traitor?
01:57 <+coil> ya
01:58 <@dasunt> Are you a member of a secret society?:
01:59 <+coil> ya
01:59 <+coil> ::
01:59 <@dasunt> Do you hate Friend Computer?
01:59 <+coil> no
01:59 <+coil> i can't breathe
01:59 <+coil> too much pot smoke
01:59 <@dasunt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_(role-playing_game)
01:59 <@dasunt> coil: I don't pity you.  You should have shared your pot.
02:00 <+coil> dasunt: youre too far wawy
02:00 <@dasunt> It isn't my fault!
02:00 <@dasunt> Do you guys have snow?
02:00 <+coil> move to tx
02:00 <+coil> no
02:00 <@dasunt> TX?
02:00 <@dasunt> You aren't in TN?
02:01 <+coil> it hasn't snowed since 85
02:01 <+coil> tx
02:01 <+coil> tn? what's that
02:01 <@dasunt> I state that is latitudely challenged?
02:02 <@dasunt> Also, my ex lives there.
02:02 <+coil> fsck tn
02:02 <+coil> they're sux
02:02 <+coil> period
02:02 <@dasunt> My ex isn't.
02:02 <@dasunt> Sucking more would have been preferred.  :p
02:02 <+coil> im sure
02:02 <+coil> and dasunt they say oj is fine
02:02 <+coil> they tried it!!
02:02 <@dasunt> OJ?
02:03 <@dasunt> Oh, the stuff on the counter.
02:03 <@dasunt> Wwait 24 hours.
02:03 <@dasunt> See who pukes.
02:03 <+coil> dasunt: !?
02:04 <@dasunt> Food poisoning doesn't show up right away.
02:04 <+coil> well i cooked this discolored porkchop and ate it
02:04 <+coil> i mean it wasn't THAT badly discolored
02:05 <+coil> just a lil bit darker in some areas
02:05 <@dasunt> LoL.
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02:05 <+coil> i have a good stomach
02:05 <@dasunt> my friend is like that -- he'll eat anything.
02:05 <@dasunt> It worries me.
02:06 <+coil> it didn't taste bad
02:06 <@dasunt> Hamburger left in a hot car for 5 hours?  No problem.
02:06 <+coil> or smell bad
02:06 <+coil> a lil weird
02:06 <+coil> dasunt: i thought that if it's hot it will stay better
02:09 <@dasunt> I dunno.
02:10 <@dasunt> I try to avoid food of questionable nature.
02:10 <+coil> well you're a fucking vegitarian
02:10 <+coil> so i dont wanna hear nothing from you
02:10 <+coil> you're just a pussy that can't have any food
02:11 <@dasunt> LoL.
02:11 <@dasunt> Did I mention my coworker tried to turn me to meat?
02:12 <@dasunt> "I had meat last night, it was good!"
02:12 <+coil> it's the fucking other way around for me
02:12 <@dasunt> "Whtat sort of meat?"
02:12 <@dasunt> "I dunno, but it was good!"
02:12 <+coil> my moron dipshit vegan roommate always says "you should become vegan"
02:12 <+coil> im like fuck you shut the fuck up about it
02:12 <+coil> when ever we talk (which is not much now)
02:12 <+coil> he usually brings that up
02:13 <@dasunt> Tell him that he still hurts the little aminals.
02:13 <@dasunt> (Not a drunken typo:  Aminals sounds better.)
02:16 <@dasunt> I think my body thinks I'm trying to poison it.
02:22 <@dasunt> Admittedly, it may be right.
02:22 <@dasunt> One of these days, I shouyld really investigate what it take to destroy a liver.
02:26 <+coil> how does he hurt the animals
02:27 <+coil> he sure as hell can't take care of a lil poor kitten
02:27 <+coil> dasunt: i hope you mean not actually drink until your liver is destroyed
02:27 <@dasunt> coil: Farming causes the death of animals.
02:28 <@dasunt> So does the raising of meat animals in the US, due to meat animals usually being fed grain and the inefficiencies.
02:28 <+coil> yeah i hate his bullshit logic
02:28 <+coil> he says he does it for health reasons
02:28 <@dasunt> As for my liver, it probably isn't happy with me.
02:28 <+coil> but he looks pretty fucking unhealthy
02:28 <@dasunt> coil: For health reasons, I'd point out that the vegan sources of precursers to omega-3 fatty acids rather suck.
02:28 <+coil> and he got really sick recently
02:28 <+coil> dasunt: he says he takes vitamins every day
02:29 <+coil> and that takes care of all his health needs
02:29 <+coil> apparently not
02:29 <@dasunt> The best he could do (I think) is Vegan DHA (an omega 3 fatty acid from seaweed).
02:29 <@dasunt> I'm drunk, so I could be wrong.
02:29 <@dasunt> But basically, the human body needs fat.  And it needs a certain ratio of one fat (omega 3) to another fat (omega 6).
02:29 <+coil> i rather not care about him
02:29 <@dasunt> Omega 6s are easy enough to get.
02:30 <@dasunt> Omega 3s are hard to get -- most omnivores don't get enough.
02:30  * dasunt is a bad vegan, dissing other vegans.
02:31 <@dasunt> OTOH, if you ever met vegans, they deserve to be dissed.  :p
02:31 <+coil> yes
02:31 <+coil> i fucking hate them all
02:31 <+coil> no offense
02:31 <+coil> but i still fucking hate you :P
02:31  * coil eats a fat juicy steak infront of dasunt
02:31 <+coil> mmmm its soo good
02:32 <@dasunt> Your hate is but a small candle when compared to the solar fusion inferno of my ex.
02:32 <+coil> that might be so
02:32 <+coil> at least you have your energies focused to one point
02:32 <@dasunt> You'd have to get me falsely imprisoned to beat her.
02:33 <+coil> dude she call me up the other day
02:33 <+coil> she said you were a dick
02:33 <@dasunt> Only a dick?
02:33 <@dasunt> She's letting go.
02:33 <+coil> fine, prick
02:34 <@dasunt> Still letting go.
02:34 <+coil> nope
02:34 <+coil> she said <insert worst thing possible to hurt you>
02:34 <@dasunt> Oh.
02:34 <@dasunt> Well, that's normal.
02:34 <+coil> theres too much blood in my alcohol
02:35 <@dasunt> I'm trying to remedy it.
02:35 <@dasunt> I've heard the worst possible thing to hurt me.
02:35 <@dasunt> It sucks.
02:35 <+coil> its such a good song
02:35 <@dasunt> But so it goes.
02:35 <@dasunt> What is a godo song?
02:35 <+coil> Heartworms
02:37 <@dasunt> It is the fate of the world.
02:37 <+coil> each beat feeds the heartworms
02:37 <+coil> and they're hungry.
02:38 <@dasunt> They are.
02:38 <+coil> see, good song..
02:38 <@dasunt> Soulworms are worse.
02:38 <+coil> it can't be taken literally
02:39 <+coil> this knife is gonna make some young woman a fine husband.
02:41 <+coil_> np: Coil – Heartworms
02:45 <@dasunt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZiRiIpZVF4b <- LoL (may be illegal in some countries0
02:46 <@dasunt> Title of that is Der Fuerer's Face, if you need any more clue.
02:47 <@dasunt> It is a damn shame that Disney self-censors, since as a historical icon, the WWII propaganda cartoons are informative.
02:49 <+coil> i just poured my drink
02:50 <@dasunt> Green Dragon?
02:51 <+coil> no i haven't made that yet
02:51 <+coil> and it would be too late in the night for that
02:51 <+coil> dasunt: i've been going aorund to all stores today looking for a mason jar
02:51 <@dasunt> I have a few.
02:51 <@dasunt> From canning.
02:51 <+coil> i mean NO ONE had it
02:51 <@dasunt> Although I guess they can also be used to grow shrooms.
02:51 <@dasunt> Wrong time of the season, try fall.
02:51 <+coil> all i need to put it is a dark warm place (inside a computer)
02:52 <+coil> and wait 2-3 weeks
02:52 <+coil> and shake it
02:52 <+coil> then strain
02:54 <@dasunt> Must be pot.
02:54 <@dasunt> Although it would work just as well for growing shrooms.
02:54 <+coil> well, yeah
02:55 <+coil> it's easyer to put pot and liquor in a mason jar
02:55 <+coil> then to put weed into the bottle
02:55 <+coil> ill put it back into the botle after the straining
02:55 <+coil> it should have a green tint to it :)
02:55 <@dasunt> Growing shrooms isn't that hard.
02:55 <@dasunt> sterlize the jar.
02:55 <+coil> yes
02:55 <@dasunt> Inject through the lid.
02:55 <+coil> pressure cooker
02:55 <@dasunt> Tape over the injection site.
02:55 <+coil> i want shrooms
02:56 <+coil> i need to do that
02:56 <+coil> did you do that before dasunt
02:56 <@dasunt> OMG!  I've corrupted you.
02:56 <+coil> no, i've always wanted to do it
02:56 <@dasunt> Or I gave you information that you could have gotten through a quick google search.
02:56 <+coil> but being a pot head, i get lazy and no motivation to do anything
02:56 <+coil> dasunt: no i already know the process, just never ordered spores before
02:56 <@dasunt> I'm not a pot head, but I'm lazy.
02:57 <@dasunt> I guess the spores are legal to order.
02:57 <+coil> some times
02:57 <+coil> depands
02:57 <+coil> dpeneds
02:57 <+coil> alc already affecting me
02:58 <+coil> and im drinking the oj
02:58 <@dasunt> I've never done any illegal drugs.
02:58 <+coil> so well see if what you say about the oj is true
02:58 <+coil> pussy
02:58 <+coil> why not
02:58 <@dasunt> If that answers your question.
02:58 <@dasunt> coil: Never had anyone to do them with that I trusted.
02:58 <+coil> dasunt: shrooms aren't illegal
02:58 <+coil> but how do you know the process
03:00 <@dasunt> I've known interesting people.
03:02 <+coil> woot
03:02 <+coil> lol south park on
03:09 <@dasunt> Oh, I know I'm fucked now.
03:10 <+coil> why
03:11 <@dasunt> <dasunt> and women's lib being about trancending stereotypes.
03:11 <@dasunt> <h>  women's lib isn't about transcending stereotypes
03:11 <+coil> 10oz of vodka in a 16 oz glass
03:11 <@dasunt> <h> it's about equal rights, you fool
03:11 <@dasunt> <dasunt> o stereotypes are okay?
03:12 <+coil> with a lil bit of oj
03:12 <@dasunt> For some reason, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong, and it is my fault.
03:12 <@dasunt> I'm also pretty sure that someone doesn't know the meaning of 'transcend'.
03:14 <+coil> k
03:15 <+coil> ???????????
03:15 <@dasunt> I don't get it either.
03:16 <@dasunt> Oh, she's trying to justify this.
03:16 <+coil> oh
03:16 <@dasunt> Jebus.
03:18 <+coil> where? i dont see him
03:19 <@dasunt> This is inane.
03:20 <+coil> ur2
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03:23 <@freakn> moo
03:23 <+coil> oom
03:23 <@freakn> oh my
03:33 <@dasunt> Low on booze.
03:33 <@dasunt> I have the Cure though.
03:34 <+coil> beer run?
03:34 <@dasunt> Too late.
03:34 <+coil> ?
03:39 <@dasunt> Liquor stores close.
03:39 <+coil> whats teh cure then
03:39 <+coil> wtf man wtf
03:44 <+coil> dasunt: answr me before i kill you by having your ex come over and take the rest of your shit
03:51 <@dasunt> coil: The cure for what?
03:51 <@dasunt> Oh, the Cure?
03:51 <@dasunt> A band.
03:51 <+coil> ohh
03:51 <+coil> that the cure
03:51 <+coil> didn't realise you were talking about that
03:52 <@dasunt> Probalby best known for "Elise", "Pictures of You", and "Just Like Heaven".
03:53 <+coil> lamb of god
03:54 <@dasunt> "Show me how you do that trick, the one that make me scream she says, the one that makes me laugh, she says, and threw her arms around my neck"
03:54 <+coil> the ead one?
03:55 <@dasunt> And now I have Helloween.
03:55 <+coil> and now you stfu you drunk bastard
03:55 <@dasunt> "Here I stand, all alone.  Have my mind turned to stone.  Have my heard turned to ice.  To avoid it breaking twice."
03:56 <@dasunt> "Thanks to you, my dear old friend.  But you can't help, this is the end.  Of a tale that wasn't right.  I won't have no sleep tonight."
03:56 <+coil> ignored
03:56 <@dasunt> But you love German power metal!
03:57 <+coil> fintroll
03:57 <@dasunt> I missed Fintroll playing locally (they are Scandanavian metal).
03:57 <@dasunt> I'll hit the Turasis concert though.
03:57 <+coil> i know
03:57 <+coil> i can't think of any german metal
03:58 <@dasunt> Scorpians were German, I thought, but more proto-metal.
03:58 <@dasunt> Gamma Ray is.
03:58 <+coil> here i am
03:59 <+coil> rock you like a hurricane.
03:59 <@dasunt> Running Wild was German, I thought.
04:00 <@dasunt> Oh, Warlock/Doro is German.
04:00 <@dasunt> I may see them in concert.
04:01 <+coil> dasunt: gimme skinny puppy
04:01 <@dasunt> You don't get skinny puppy.
04:02 <+coil> fuck you.
04:02 <@dasunt> Helloween is a good band though in metal history.
04:02 <+coil> meh
04:02 <@dasunt> They popularized power metal.
04:02 <+coil> i kinda like metal but not that much
04:02 <+coil> i perfer other methals
04:02 <@dasunt> I tend to like metal with clean vocals.
04:02 <+coil> er other genres
04:02 <@dasunt> And symphonic/folk metal.
04:03 <+coil> sonata artica?
04:03 <@dasunt> Never heard of them.
04:04 <+coil> power metal progressive metal
04:04 <@dasunt> I tend to like prog metal.
04:07 <@dasunt> I should youtube sonata artica.
04:07 <+coil> coulda shoulda woulda
04:08 <@dasunt> I'm listening to Cohen again.
04:08 <+coil> who by fire
04:08 <@dasunt> But I tend to like Finnish Metal.
04:08 <@dasunt> Listening to "There For You" by Cohen.
04:08 <+coil> amorphis
04:08 <+coil> edguy
04:09 <@dasunt> Bah, tell me when I'm sober.
04:10 <+coil> britney spears
04:16 <@dasunt> You shall die.
04:17 <+coil> hopefully not soon
04:17 <+coil> but you never know...
04:18 <@dasunt> Bah.
04:18 <@dasunt> Sobering up again.
04:18 <@dasunt> I think I need another drink.
04:18 <+coil> wtf
04:18 <+coil> i htought you said yo uwere out
04:22 <@dasunt> I never try to be out.
04:22 <@dasunt>  Being out causes me to be sober.
04:22 <+coil> that didn't ask my fucking question, god damnit
04:22 <@dasunt> Sober + insomnia tends to lead me pondering continuing my existence.
04:23 <@dasunt> I tend to have at least some booze somewhere.
04:23 <+coil> what you drinking on now
04:24 <@dasunt> Still Karkov.
04:24 <@dasunt> But I'm getting low.l
04:24 <+coil> theres always tommorrow
04:24 <@dasunt> There is.
04:24 <@dasunt> There's all the days left in my life until I die.
04:25 <+coil> why do you always have to be so negative
04:25 <+coil> doesn't matter if you're drunk or sober
04:25 <+coil> always saying negative things
04:25 <@dasunt> I've seen the ugly side of life.
04:26 <+coil> yeah, like a few years ago
04:26 <@dasunt> It has scarred me.
04:27 <@dasunt> The ex was the final straw.
04:27 <+coil> how many straws before
04:29 <@dasunt> I know two men who aren't alive because of suicide.
04:29 <@dasunt> Been present at one attempted suicide.
04:29 <@dasunt> Known some guys that are so fucked up that they won't have a normal life.
04:29 <@dasunt> Seen at least one woman who has given up on large parts of her life.
04:29 <@dasunt> There has been a few straws.
04:29 <+coil> knew*
04:30 <+coil> unless you can talk to the afterlife
04:31 <@dasunt> True.
04:31 <@dasunt> From what I see, life ends up killing people.
04:31 <@dasunt> So I'm a tad bitter about it.
04:33 <+coil> maybe one day death will come to you
04:33 <@dasunt> One day, death will.  It comes to everyone.
04:33 <@dasunt> Pessimissim, I have it.
04:33 <+coil> but drinking so much doesnt extend life
04:34 <@dasunt> Does life deserve to be extended?
04:34 <+coil> pharmacutical companies think so
04:34 <@dasunt> They may be biased.
04:36 <@dasunt> To begin whipping dance of the dead
04:36 <@dasunt> Blackened is the end
04:36 <@dasunt> I don't care what other people think, early Metallica did rock.
04:37 <+coil> call of the kuausku
04:38 <@dasunt> What?
04:38 <@dasunt> That is Blackened.
04:38 <+coil> gimme fuel gimme fire gimme that which i desire!!!
04:39 <@dasunt> Although Call of Kthulu is spiffy.
04:39 <@dasunt> Fuel sucks.
04:39 <+coil> stfu
04:39 <+coil> you sux
04:39 <@dasunt> most of reload sucks.
04:39 <@dasunt> Sowwy.
04:39 <+coil> you sux
04:40 <@dasunt> I have many sins.
04:40 <+coil> repent
04:46 <@dasunt> To who?
04:47 <+coil> my dog
04:47 <+coil> hah i dont have a dog
04:47 <@dasunt> So nobody.
04:47 <@dasunt> No one, no thing.
04:47 <+coil> i want a dog
04:48 <@dasunt> I want a future.
04:48 <@dasunt> Meh.
04:49 <+coil> are you this emo all the time
04:49 <+coil> during the other part of the day when you're not here and at work not drinking
04:50 <@dasunt> I sometimes hide my bitterness.
04:50 <@dasunt> And a few times, I am happy.
04:50 <@dasunt> Damned if I know what triggers it.
04:50 <@dasunt> Probably a lapse of sanity.
04:52 <+coil> do you have friends/
04:52 <+coil> or did you shut everyone out because of a few bad expirences
04:52 <+coil> people die all the time
04:54 <@dasunt> Have a few friends.
04:55 <+coil> am i a friend?!?!
04:55 <@dasunt> Depends how you define friend.
04:56 <@dasunt> And if you distinguish between IRL friends and internet friends.
04:56 <+coil> someone online at the same time talking to you
05:03 <@dasunt> Then you seem to qualify.
05:03 <@dasunt> Why do you ask?
05:03 <+coil> yay i has a friend :>
05:06 <@dasunt> Aren't you lucky?
05:06 <+coil> no
05:06 <+coil> friends fuck you over
05:06 <+coil> are you gonna fuck me over?
05:06 <+coil> dasunt: im sure with my age, my bitterness will improve
05:14 <@dasunt> I don't fuck anyone over.
05:14 <@dasunt> That is my flaw.
05:15 <@dasunt> well, one of many.
07:37 <@Dagmar> In case any of you were wondering if Nintendo was still worried about injury lawsuits: http://shop.i4u.com/0/9291504.html
07:37 <@Dagmar> I think the answer is "no"
07:40 <@wontonjoe> shes gone
07:41 <@wontonjoe> i am bitter
07:41 <@wontonjoe> i liked this me better though
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08:24 <@wontonjoe> good morning
08:24 <@wontonjoe> earthlings
08:45 <@SkyDog_> what's good about it?!?!
08:53 <@wontonjoe> damn man, i know how you feel
08:54 <@wontonjoe> just found out that girl you said i needed to trade for a penguin
08:54 <@wontonjoe> she has been planning on being with another guy and loved him for three years
08:54 <@wontonjoe> im done with the long term shit
08:54 <@wontonjoe> i moved her ass out
08:55 <@wontonjoe> ive been dating her for three years
08:55 <@SkyDog_> WHAT?
08:56 <@wontonjoe> my gf which is now my ex gf shes a cheating lying whore, i used a kelogger and had full on evidence
08:56 <@wontonjoe> she stole my laptop that had a keylogger on it
08:56 <@wontonjoe> i harvested the cheating evidence and stole it back
08:57 <@wontonjoe> then i called my landlord and got her evicted
08:57 <@SkyDog_> Ouch.
08:57 <@SkyDog_> Sorry man.
08:58 <@wontonjoe> ive been up dealing with all of it for 36 hours, im at work now, doin gok i suppose, just glad its done
08:58 <@SkyDog_> there was writing on the wall. You just didn't want to read it.
08:58 <@wontonjoe> eh it happens, a lot, well no one saw her dong anything like this
08:58 <@SkyDog_> Keep your head above water, and don't let it show at work.
08:58 <@SkyDog_> bury yourself in tasks at work to keep your mind off of it.
08:58 <@wontonjoe> she never seemed unfaithful or dishonest, hell she even had my mother fooled
08:58 <@SkyDog_> only deal with it outside the workplace.
08:58 <@wontonjoe> oh i know
08:58 <@wontonjoe> im not letting it get to me here at least
08:59 <@SkyDog_> DId you feel like she was doing something wrong? That gut feeling?
08:59 <@wontonjoe> actually other than a few bouts of sadness, im handling it pretty well, it was the right thing to happen, the nice thing is the guy decided he wasnt going to get a divorce and get with my gf the day she left, she lost her job and her car broke!
09:00 <@wontonjoe> ya i had that feeling
09:00 <@SkyDog_> goes around, comes around.
09:00 <@wontonjoe> i should trust my gut
09:01 <@wontonjoe> if i can make it to outerzone (cant fly now) im gonna fill my trusting gut with beer
09:02 <@SkyDog_> deal. I will have a drink with you there.
09:03 <@SkyDog_> Sorry about the crap man. It does happen though.
09:03 <@wontonjoe> oh ya, its just part of it
09:04 <@wontonjoe> its hella fun taking someones private myspace blog printing it out and handing it out to their family
09:04 <@wontonjoe> they all think shes rotten now
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09:04 <@SkyDog_> Haha!
09:05 <@wontonjoe> ya she denied the allegations with the proof in her hand, i just laughed at her and said read it you wrote it, whore
09:05 <@SkyDog_> Doh!
09:05 <@SkyDog_> did you capture it in PDF?
09:05 <@wontonjoe> im not very kind having this happen once before
09:06 <@wontonjoe> nah i saved it as html archive
09:06 <@SkyDog_> Ah, there ya go.
09:06 <@wontonjoe> she still dosent realize how i got it, she has not changed her password lol
09:06 <@SkyDog_> Ow. careful now...
09:06 <@wontonjoe> and i told the dumbass what i did
09:06 <@wontonjoe> no im done with info harvesting on her, i got what i needed
09:07 <@SkyDog_> Cool.
09:07 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I gotta get ready to goto the consortium and work.
09:07 <@SkyDog_> Keep your head up, ok?
09:08 <@wontonjoe> it was my laptop she stole to do it, just like a company you use my property your subject to monitoring
09:08 <@wontonjoe> ok bbl
09:28 <@dc0de> wontonjoe, just read the scroll back, that sux
09:28 <@dc0de> Dagmar, I want that nintento gear... full on combat!
09:28 <@dc0de> sharpen that shit
09:29 <@Dagmar> They have boxing gloves and shit now with the wiimote electronics built into them
09:29 <@dc0de> Dagmar, so it's like real boxing, without the real boxing.
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09:32 <@dc0de> what's everyone up to today?
09:33 <@Dagmar> Contemplating stabbing Compiz in the eyes
09:33 <@dc0de> Dagmar, what's up with Compiz?
09:34  * dc0de likes compiz
09:35 <@Dagmar> Their default config still sucks
09:36 <@dc0de> true.
09:36 <@dc0de> my config is heavily tweaked.
09:42 <@Dagmar> Well, for the default config to _not_ include the ability to move or resize windows... that's lunacy
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10:06 <@dc0de> I want an Ariel Atom.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52rrpuvawTs
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10:12 <@dc0de> a car with 600 bhp per ton!
10:16 <@dc0de> Dagmar, http://www.comics.com/comics/dilbert/archive/index.html
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10:27 <@dc0de> Off to go shopping <groan>
10:27 <@tcstool> good luck with that
10:27 <@tcstool> Baby shower at my house today <groan>
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11:32 <@sdodson> hmm, i don't think that's the default compiz config in fedora
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12:53 <@sdodson> i made my reservation, he tried to tell me it was Feb 29th
12:53 <@sdodson> good thing you guys left the dates in the topic as well as the url
12:54 -!- sdodson changed the topic of #se2600 to: http://outerz0ne.org/ Mar 21-23 | Call 770-384-0080 and mention group "outerz0ne" for the $79/night rate
12:54 <@sdodson> you tossers
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13:29 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDaicPIgn9U
13:29  * shadowmoss glomps Catonic 
13:30 <@Catonic> hi shadowmoss
13:30 < shadowmoss> hello
13:30 < shadowmoss> I'm going to be in Santa Fe during Outerz0ne, sigh
13:30 <@Catonic> I'm going to be in Nashville, attending ninjacon
13:31 < shadowmoss> double sigh
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13:33 <@Catonic> sup remo
13:39 < remoford> sup
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14:04 <@dc0de> wheeee.
14:04 <@dc0de> two new pair of dress pants, one size smaller than my old ones! w00t
14:05  * dc0de is 2" smaller in the waist!
14:15 <@dasunt> Congrats.
14:16 <+coil> hi dasunt
14:18 <@dasunt> What's up?
14:18 <+coil> about to goto work :(
14:18 <@dasunt> It is Saturday!
14:19 <@dasunt> ~weather 55025
14:19 <+MxZBot> It's Clear in By Forest Lake Airport, Forest Lake, Minnesota. It's 39.4 F (11 M, 4 C, 277 K).
14:19 <+coil> thurs and fri is my off day
14:19 <@dasunt> Woot.
14:19 <@dasunt> That is beautiful.
14:19 <@dasunt> Almost 40F.
14:19 <+coil> ~weather 78247
14:19 <+MxZBot> It's Clear in San Antonio, Texas. It's 71 F (59 M, 21 C, 294 K).  Wind to the Variable at 6Mph/9Kph.
14:19 <+coil> that is beautiful it's 70
14:19 <+coil> perfect weather
14:19  * coil goes outside to follic
14:19 <@sdodson> Catonic: that's why most machines whipe memory on boot
14:20 <@sdodson> dc0de: I bizought new pants today too!
14:20 <@dc0de> sweet!
14:20 <@dc0de> smaller ones too?
14:20 <@sdodson> ya
14:20 <+coil> people actually do stuff on saturday?
14:20 <@dc0de> congrats to you!
14:21 <@sdodson> Even smaller than those I asked for during Christmas
14:21 <@dc0de> nice
14:21 <+coil> sdodson: you work out?
14:22 <@sdodson> coil: not enough
14:22 <@dc0de> I'm just walking... not working out... I don't need by bulk to come back.
14:23 <@sdodson> Do cardio
14:23 <@dc0de> walking is fine for me for now...
14:23 <@sdodson> I'm shooting for 30 minutes a day of cardio + about 15 minutes of light lifting.
14:25 <@sdodson> So there's efforts to store passwords in low memory ranges which are cleared more frequently but that's about all that you can do.
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14:28 <@Catonic> sdodson: best thing you can do is just keep it up
14:28 <@dc0de> check out Discovery Channel... it's how they build the Ice Hotel.
14:28 <@Catonic> however, that may be difficult if you have injuries associated with things like dancing, aikido, and once a day workouts
14:29 <@dc0de> I've taken to parking at the far end of parking lots, taking the stairs and walking after lunch
14:29 <@sdodson> Catonic = hero
14:29 <@Catonic> I've taken to dub-driving
14:30 <@dc0de> what's that?
14:30 <@dc0de> driving while making a mix-tape?
14:30 <@Catonic> driving my dub as much as possible
14:30 <@dc0de> ah
14:31 <@dc0de> you running bio-diesel yet?
14:31 <@Catonic> my friend falkon had someone give him a milkcrate of LPs
14:31 <@Catonic> some of it was real, honest to goodness dub music
14:31 <@Catonic> we sat there listening to it on a turntable while he destroyed the disc
14:32 <@Catonic> sounded great as scratch record
14:32 <@dc0de> we've still got some OLD vinyl in dessicant cases in our storage area.
14:32 <@Catonic> no, I'm not doing the biodiesel thing since the pump hasn't been resealed
14:32 <@Catonic> and I only drive about 1.5 miles most days
14:32 <@dc0de> ahh.
14:32 < remoford> ev
14:32 <@dc0de> remoford, ?
14:32 <@dc0de> you have an ev?
14:33 < remoford> no, im suggesting catonic make himself an ev
14:33 < remoford> if he only goes 1.5 miles
14:33 <@dc0de> if he does, I wanna buy the dub.
14:33 <@Catonic> kinda already is... no alternator belt.
14:33 <@Catonic> bbiab
14:34 <@Catonic> and wontonjoe already has dibs on my dubber
14:34 <@dc0de> bummer
14:34 <@Catonic> I wouldn't bring it to ATL if I moved...
14:34 <@Catonic> it's a hack car
14:34 <@Catonic> I'm thinking about buying the autoshop's TDI..
14:34 <@Catonic> it's a 2001 TDI with like 90k on it.. wants 12k.
14:35 <@dc0de> ouch
14:35 <@sdodson> wtf is a dub?
14:36 <@dc0de> vw
14:36 <@sdodson> can you please not speak like an asshole?
14:36 <@dc0de> or a V-dub
14:36 <@sdodson> perferably in English, and explain silly words prior to their use
14:36 <@dc0de> or 'dub' for short
14:36 <@sdodson> don't assume we're all dub wankers
14:37 < remoford> nazi automobiles
14:37 <@dc0de> remoford, yup, the only thing that hitler did right.
14:38 <@sdodson> only thing?
14:38 <@sdodson> German engineering was far superior to anything else at the time
14:38 <@dc0de> well, that and the Autobon
14:38 <@sdodson> Most of it funded by war efforts
14:38 <@dc0de> Autobahn
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14:56 <@notlarry> sdodson: how much for your wow account?
14:58 <@sdodson> notlarry: why? which character were you interested in?
14:59 <@notlarry> what do you have?:)
15:00 <@sdodson> http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Uldum&n=Driggers is my only character worth noting
15:01 <@notlarry> need something on mal'ganis
15:02 <@sdodson> http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Selexan
15:03 <@Evilpig> http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Evilpig
15:03 <@sdodson> kthnx i care
15:03 <@Dagmar> You can just buy one on any PvP server and transfer it as far as I kno
15:04 <@sdodson> honestly, i'd like to keep wow as an option so I don't think I want to sell my account
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15:05 <@sdodson> http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Selexan
15:05 <@sdodson> bummer, was wondering if Evilpig was into himself enough to have scripted it such that any time someone linked to a character on MalGanis he spewed his
15:05 <@Evilpig> no
15:06 <@Evilpig> we were talking about how wow is just about dead last night
15:06 <@sdodson> really, why?
15:06 <@Evilpig> the changes blizzard is putting into the 2.4 patch have removed the elements that made anything in the game special
15:06 <@Evilpig> and how they have made the arena system about as elitist as the pve system was before 
15:06  * sdodson wonders what they're doing
15:07 <@Evilpig> you can get the best gear in the game for running a heroic instance over and over now
15:07 <@Evilpig> instead of having to complete the hardest content in the game
15:07 <@sdodson> I've never been interested in competition in WoW.  Even within a fairly mature guild like the one I was in there was a fair bit of competition to have the phatest loots and that's annoying to me
15:07 <@Evilpig> so any joker can get the best gear and there really is no reason to try and do the hard content unless you want to say that you've done it
15:07 <@sdodson> I play to do neat things, explore new content, being in a guild was solely a requirement of fufilling that wish.
15:08 <@Dagmar> Big fuckin' whoop
15:08 <@Dagmar> Bring back XP loss on death I say
15:08 <@Dagmar> Let's see some fuckers delevel to 69 or 68
15:08 <@Evilpig> you can now do the PVE content and change the rewards in for PVP gear instead of the PVE gear thta it was supposed to be
15:08 <@sdodson> I think the guild I was in was rare in that most of the people in there were mature enough to just enjoy the content rather than have some sort of dick size war over gear.
15:09 <@Evilpig> hell the new arena season 4 gear they just released is the best gear in teh game now.  you really shouldn't have to goto arenas for that type of thing.
15:09 <@sdodson> Though at times it seemed like raiding was a real job, people got really upset if you fucked up, but i dunno
15:10 <@Evilpig> it is because it takes so much time.  to have one person screw up and waste the night is frustrating
15:11 <@Dagmar> This is one of the things I like about KAra
15:11 <@Dagmar> It might as well have bookmarks.
15:11 <@Dagmar> You don't _have_ to do the whole place all at once.
15:12 <@sdodson> We never did entire things at once.
15:12 <@Evilpig> wait til you see what they are doing to ssc and tk in the patch
15:12 <@Evilpig> you can skip straight to the end boss
15:12 <@Dagmar> What are those places?
15:12 <@Evilpig> no more attunement for BT or hyjal
15:12 <@Dagmar> I'll probably never seen the inside of Hyjal
15:13 <@Evilpig> you'll be able to walk into it as of 2.4
15:13 <@sdodson> We did molten core in either two or three days.
15:13 <@Evilpig> SSC is the 25 man instance in the coilfang reservoire
15:13 <@Dagmar> When 10 people can't be expected to know what "TAKE THREE BASES AND JUST FUCKING HOLD THEM N00BS" means, good fucking luck getting 40 people to behave unless they're guilded and you can kick them from teh guild
15:13 <@Evilpig> TK is the 25 man up in netherstorm
15:13 <@Dagmar> What do the ACRONYMS mean
15:14 <@Evilpig> ssc - serpent shrine cavern.     tk - tempest keep: the eye
15:14 <@Dagmar> That's better
15:14 <@Dagmar> Some of us actually pay attention to what the NPCs in the game say, because the NPCs are literate.
15:14 <@Dagmar> ...so when you say "Tempest Keep" we know what you're talking about just fine actually.
15:15 <@Evilpig> tempest keep is a set of instances though.  it isn't an instance on it's own
15:15 <@Dagmar> Exactly.
15:15 <@Dagmar> I'm guessing The Eye is past Arkatraz?
15:15 <@Evilpig> kinda.  it's the big island in the middle of the three
15:15 <@Dagmar> I keep meaning to make a little colored map for those
15:16 <@Dagmar> I can never keep them straight in my head
15:16 <@Dagmar> ...other than I *think* Botanica is the blue one
15:16 <@Evilpig> mech is on the right.  arcatraz has the locked door.  botanica is the other one
15:16 <@Dagmar> I've been into Botanica and Mechanar
15:17 <@Dagmar> ...both on Heroic
15:18 <@Evilpig> you won't like arcatraz on heroic.  ugh
15:18 <@Dagmar> I'm sure I won't
15:18 <@Dagmar> ...but I'll do it just to have the challeneg
15:18 <@Evilpig> if you want a challenge do old hillsbrad on heroic
15:18 <@Evilpig> that is by far the hardest of them all
15:18 <@Dagmar> I don't really see how that one could be all that hard
15:19 <@Evilpig> the guards that patrol down below at the start.  they summon two mobs each time you pull one.  and you can't CC any of it
15:19 <@Evilpig> the summoned guards hit for about 2k a pop on plate
15:19 <@Dagmar> Oh those guys
15:20 <@Evilpig> then after that you have thrall's rampage to deal with.  he's hard enough to run after on regular
15:20 <@Dagmar> We just let him be lead tank last time.  :)
15:20 <@Dagmar> They've made Hillsbrad itself easier so if you've not been in there lately, it might be less brutal than you expect.
15:21 <@Evilpig> two weeks ago
15:21 <@Dagmar> Like, the whole time QQ (our guild leader) kept saying "Now this is going to be really hard" on normal mode, and Lindsey and I didn't really think it was that much different than a normal dungeon
15:21 <@Dagmar> It was pretty damn easy actually
15:21 <@Evilpig> we figured we'd try it cause nobody ever does it.  and then we realized why
15:21 <@Dagmar> Well, there's a million-jillion mobs in there for one thing
15:22 <@Dagmar> I suspect maybe we were just tooled "just right" for it tho
15:23 <@Dagmar> Shadowpriest, Hunter, Ice Mage, druid, Tank
15:23 <@sdodson> Wait, there are different modes to things now?
15:23 <@Evilpig> yeah
15:23 <@Dagmar> sdodson: Yep
15:23 <@sdodson> hah, hard lulz
15:23 <@Evilpig> at 70 you can go into a heroic mode.  that was one of hte selling points of the expansion
15:23 <@Dagmar> After you've gained Honored status with a faction you can do their dungeons on "Heroic Mode" which lets you get tokens from bosses, and things are 2-3 levels higher than before
15:24 <@Dagmar> Next time I get a chance to do Botanica on Heroic, I'm probably going to get a new dragonhawk
15:24 <@sdodson> That's interesting
15:24 <@sdodson> I should play wow again soon, maybe after I upgrade my machine.
15:24 <@sdodson> Did they introduce DX10 rendering?
15:24 <@Dagmar> I'll tell the group I'll just pass on loot if they'll just let me tame the damn dragonhawk when the time comes so I don't have to level the one I have up from 68
15:24 <@Dagmar> sdodson: You dont' see us screaming about Vista do you?
15:25 <@Evilpig> sdodson: they are talking about having more dx10 support in the expansion.  but they don't want to make people have to upgrade machines
15:25 <@sdodson> I figured I'd upgrade to Vista at the same time as i upgrade hardware too.
15:25 <@Dagmar> I like my frame rates.
15:26 <@Dagmar> ...and SP1 isn't out yet, so Vista is still utterly out of the question for me
15:26 <@sdodson> I'd slipstream SP1.
15:27 <@sdodson> I don't anticipate upgrading my machine until summer time.  Probably to quad core AMD.
15:27 <@Dagmar> Not a bad plan, all things considered
15:27 <@sdodson> Or if there are signs that AMD will be moving to 45nm tech I'll wait for that.
15:27 <@sdodson> I'm currently on AMD3200 2GB with 7950gt.
15:27 <@Dagmar> I'm sure they will, it's just a matter of when
15:27 <@Dagmar> X2 3800+ with 8600 gts
15:28 <@sdodson> Ya, it's starting to get a bit slow.
15:28 <@Dagmar> Somewhat overkill, but.... I can flip back and forth between Firefox and WoW in an eyeblink with 2Gb of RAM
15:29 <@sdodson> Basically I imagine I'll wait for quadcore, 45nm, and DDR3, possibly PCI-E 3.0
15:29 <@Dagmar> What pinout is your CPU?
15:29 <@sdodson> 939.
15:29 <@Dagmar> 939?
15:29 <@Dagmar> Ah okay
15:29 <@Dagmar> Depending on how things pan out I might go to triple core during the summer.
15:30 <@sdodson> I didn't think AMD was really doing triple core.
15:30 <@sdodson> thought that was just their solution to poor process
15:30 <@Dagmar> Phenoms are already on NewEgg for reasonable prices
15:31 <@sdodson> nm, guess it's PCI-E 2.0 that I'll be waiting for, PCI-E 3.0 is still 1yr+ out
15:31 <@Dagmar> Yep
15:32 <@sdodson> As much as I realize Intel is still technically superior I prefer thorwing my dollars to AMD
15:32 <@Dagmar> Someone must be DDoSing newegg today
15:32 <@sdodson> May as well keep the scherade of competition up as long as possible.
15:33 <@sdodson> That's what happens when your retail site becomes a reference site too.
15:33 <@sdodson> Too many people going there to look up specs and details not enough people buying.
15:34 <@sdodson> oh and ajaxification
15:39 <@sdodson> wow there currently 0 AMD based boards which support DDR3
15:43 <@Dagmar> They don't need to.
15:43 <@Dagmar> Remember, AMD took the memory controller and put it IN the CPU
15:44 <@sdodson> I imagine there's an entirely different keying for DDR3 though.
15:46 <@sdodson> I also wanted to see LED backed LCDs before ditching my 17" CRT but that seems to be slow coming to market.
15:46 <@Dagmar> There's also the matter of I don't think AMD has released any chips that use AM3 yet
15:47 <@sdodson> no, they're all am2+ now
15:47 <@sdodson> or their opteron socket whatever that is
15:49 <@sdodson> Looks like DDR3 and AM3 will be mated.
15:51 <@Dagmar> THat's what I was of the impression of yes
15:52 <@Dagmar> I couldn't figure out why you were even searching for DDR3 at first
15:52 <@Dagmar> ...and AM2+ is the name for it, yeah.
15:52 <@Dagmar> I've no idea if there's any difference between it and AM2 or not
15:54 <@sdodson> am2+ is am2 but iwth HT3.0 support, backwards compatable with AM2 chips.
15:54 <@Dagmar> Thanks
15:55 <@sdodson> So I guess I may as well wait until fall or so.  <sigh>
15:56 <@Dagmar> Or until your hardware feels slow to you
15:57 <@sdodson> Using a laptop at work has insulated me from noticing how slow my desktop at home is.
15:57 <@sdodson> Good thing Id on't use any of the 16 core 64gb machines as desktops.
15:58 <@sdodson> A really modest laptop at that, Pentium M 1.6GHz 1GB.
16:04 <@Catonic> If I got my own mini-fryer, I could make falafel
16:07 <@sdodson> is that healthy?
16:15 <@Catonic> I don't know.
16:15 <@Catonic> it's fried.
16:17 <@I-MOD> fried == awesome
16:31 <@Catonic> I haz a hungry.
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17:08 < ware> wee
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17:52 <@sdodson> hmm, ctrl-+ no longer just increases font sizes in firefox but it attempts to scale the images up, i don't like that.
17:54 <@ShadowHntr> yikes
17:54 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig: ping
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18:31 <@dc0de> I have reverse priapism.
18:31 <@dc0de> I haven't had an erection in 4 hours
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18:38 <+coil> ?
18:38 <@dc0de> History channel has the SSI Industrial Shredders....
18:38 <@dc0de> they eat everything.
18:45 < Feltenix> even other SSI industrial shredders?
18:49 <@dc0de> yup
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18:52 < Feltenix> any machine tha tcan eat itself is awesome
18:53 <@dc0de> yup
19:22 <@notlarry> how many zero's in a billion?
19:26 <@Corydon76-dig> American or English?
19:27 <@Catonic> 8
19:27 <@ShadowHntr> um... 9?
19:27 <@Corydon76-dig> 9 or 12
19:27 <@Corydon76-dig> 9 zeroes in an American billion, 12 zeroes in an English (British) billion
19:28 <@dc0de> 1,000,000,000 == 1 billion.
19:28 <@Catonic> oops
19:28 <@Catonic> off by one error :)
19:28 <@ShadowHntr> i thought that a billion was one thousand million.
19:28 <@dc0de> the british don't count
19:28 <@dc0de> literally.
19:28 <@Corydon76-dig> The British make each level exponentially bigger
19:28 <@Catonic> that... is a hot cop
19:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Whereas the Americans use names for each level beyond a thousand
19:29 <@dc0de> 1,000,000,000 = Giga
19:30 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: I don't understand.
19:30 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: I don't understand the British thing
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19:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: British do:  million, thousand million, billion, thousand billion, million billion, trillion
19:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Americans do million, billion, trillion, quadrillion, quintillion...
19:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: essentially they use every level before it before they use the next name
19:33 <@Catonic> ah..
19:33 <@Corydon76-dig> So a billion is a million million, and a trillion is a billion billion
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19:34 <@Corydon76-dig> If you think about it, it does make sense and ensures that when you start counting high, your numbers take a while to sound ridiculous
19:44 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: can you give me an example?
19:52 <@Catonic> I need some way to recover a UFS filesystem
19:52 <@Catonic> does encase work on UFS? FFS?
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20:16 <@Catonic> tawlet
20:16 <@dc0de> rattle, ping
20:24 <@dc0de> for all those who think IPv6 will be only two years away, read this...
20:24 <@dc0de> http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0710/presentations/Bush-v6-op-reality.pdf
20:29 <@dc0de> that's a great presentation on where we are with IPv6. and why it won't be here in two years.
20:42 <@dc0de> drove by this law firm today in Winder GA... Free & Free, LLP
20:52 <@sdodson> side effects may include nasal fungal infection!
20:52 <@sdodson> I wonder if they do a lot of pro-bono work
20:58 < ware> haha
20:58 < ware> you said pro bono
21:00 <@Catonic> I'm watching Escape From LA...
21:01 <@Catonic> the parallels to the current presdency is down right frightening
21:01 <@dc0de> I just watched 4 brothers.
21:02 <@tzanger> http://www.break.com/index/lasix_eye_surgery_up_close.html
21:02 <@tzanger> wow
21:03 <@tzanger> am I the only one who feels that obama will be assassinated if he wins?  it's sad, it seems like he might actually feel he can make a difference
21:07 <@sdodson> Buy people who oppose his gun control policies?
21:08 <@sdodson> sigh, by
21:14 <@Catonic> I dont think we'll see a democratic presidental win
21:14 <@Catonic> I would love to see one at this point.... 8 years of republicans is too much trouble..
21:15 <@dc0de> well, his policies won't effect me... I'm not turning in shit.
21:16 <@dc0de> if it looks like he's going to get elected, I'll go purchase more weapons before he wins
21:17 <@sdodson> My understanding is that it would only affect dealers. Not ownership.
21:17 <@dc0de> well, I'll get my weapons before he effects dealers ability to sell weapons.
21:17 <@Catonic> I think we won't see Hillary or Obamba in office
21:18 <@dc0de> I pray to god we don't.
21:18 <@Catonic> America won't vote a double minority ticket
21:18 <@sdodson> double minority?
21:18 <@Catonic> If Gore were in the race, he'd have a hell of a shot
21:20 <@brimstone> white land owning make of at least 40
21:22 <@Catonic> sdodson: Dollar to a donut, Hillary and Obama will be on the same ticket, one as the pres, the other as the vp
21:23 <@rattle> dc0de:  I'll read it.
21:24 <@sdodson> I don't think so.
21:24 <@dc0de> rattle, 100% valid points
21:28 <@sdodson> Do these mega national labs produce much of interest with their super clusters?
21:29 <@sdodson> ver intersting, Y! share holders sue saying Y! was neglegent in turning down MSFT's offer
21:32 <@Catonic> well... it's it's an interesting world..
21:32 <@Catonic> grants buy a lot of things..
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21:35 <@rattle> dc0de:  I just paged through it.  Yeah, all valid.
21:36 <@rattle> It
21:36 <@rattle> It's really not stopping many folks out here..  I've talked to several folks turning their nets dual-stack.
21:37 <@rattle> Our MAN should be dual-stack by Q3..
21:39 <@rattle> Plus..  I've noticed that my statement continues to get more black and white when repeated.  I said that around two years from now, as folks cycle out their next round of core network equipment, we were going to start seeing lots of ipv6 deployments..
21:39 <@rattle> And that does still appear to be the case.
21:40 <@rattle> Not that in around two years everything was going to be ipv6..
21:44 <@sdodson> OS support is mostly there
21:45 <@rattle> It will be a long time before it will be possible for anyone to do pure ipv6..  That's for sure..
21:45 <@Catonic> I liked that movie.
21:57 <@sdodson> http://www.deusexmalcontent.com/2008/01/listening-post-last-decade-dead-century.html lots of good 90s music videos
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22:06 <@dc0de> without support, dual stacking is just going to over inflate the routing infrastructure. It's going to overload the already overburdened infrastructure.
22:07 <@dc0de> doubling the protocol usage isn't the right answer.
22:07 <@dc0de> I suggest that you read the presentation in more detail.
22:07 <@dc0de> you missed the important points.
22:16 <@dasunt> Still, none of you have sent me a cute young woman!
22:16 <@dasunt> It is like you don't even want to be on my Christmas list.
22:18 <@Catonic> lol
22:18 <@Catonic> "this isn't spaghetti. This is Army noodles with Ketchup"
22:21 <@dc0de> dasunt, what do you send for Christmas? is it worth being on your Christmas list?
22:23 <@Catonic> dasunt: you really want a cute young woman?
22:23 <@dc0de> Catonic, easy...
22:23 <@Catonic> I'll box electra up and send her to you.
22:23 <@dc0de> dasunt, be careful what you wish for
22:25 <@dasunt> Catonic: Not too sure aboout that.
22:25 <@someninjamaster> haha
22:25 <@dasunt> Women are a lot of work.
22:26 <@SkyDog_> Yes, but they are alot more fun than fucking your hand.
22:26 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, sometimes
22:26 <@dasunt> SkyDog_: Depends on the woman.
22:26 <@brimstone> depends on the hand
22:26 <@Catonic> lol
22:26 <@dc0de> depends on the hand creme
22:29 <@Catonic> depends on the grip?
22:30 <@dasunt> "the Necronomicon is primarily a way
22:30 <@dasunt> to get people to poke sleeping eldritch horrors with a stick. "
22:30 <@dasunt> Heh.
22:30 <@dasunt> That's cute.
22:30 <@sdodson> Catonic: how's Electra doing?
22:37 <@dasunt> Who is this Electra?
22:38 <@dasunt> WTF?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Phallological_Museum
22:41 <@someninjamaster> sdodson:  my guess still fucking annoying
22:46  * dc0de is away: off to bed.
22:57 <@Catonic> sdodson: have no idea. With any luck, still as sexy as ever.
22:57 <@Catonic> With any luck, still as crazy so she'll be fun to fuck.
23:00 <@dasunt> My cat's trying to darwinate herself.
23:00 < ware> pics or shens
23:24 <@tzanger> "shens" ?
23:24 <@dasunt> She's attacking the cord of the LED lamps I just got.
23:24 <@Catonic> lol
23:25 <@SkyDog_> tzanger: Google it.
23:26 <@tzanger> ah
23:26 <@tzanger> shens here/
23:26 <@tzanger> ?
23:26 <@tzanger> oh I'm worries
23:26 <@tzanger> dammit
23:26 <@tzanger> worried
23:33 <@dasunt> Why are you worried?
23:35 <@Catonic> electric pussy doesn't thrill him
23:36 <@wontonjoe> wonton is back
23:36 <@SkyDog_> yo.
23:40 <@wontonjoe> berkeley Where "Hey baby, wanna go eat organic vegetables in the back of my Prius"  is practically a pickup line
23:40 <@wontonjoe> hi skydog_
23:43 <@Catonic> I need to visit Berkeley.
23:49 <@wontonjoe> im probably gonna be out there for several weeks in a few months
23:49 <@wontonjoe> i cant fly discounted but my buddy wants me to come out for a few weeks
23:51 <@Catonic> you need to get a real job
23:51 <@wontonjoe> im working on it, apple n a few weeks probably, and i may transfer out to cali
23:53 <@Catonic> yeah, and I'm holding out for an inflatable vagina I'm buying off of eBay...
23:53 <@Catonic> keep looking
23:54 <@sdodson> wtf?
23:57 <@Catonic> I'm just trying to make a point
23:58 <@sdodson> i think you failed miserably
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