--- Log opened Thu Feb 21 00:00:35 2008 00:04 -!- aestetix [n=aestetix@md2600.org] has left #se2600 [] 00:22 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 00:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 00:23 <@Catonic> Hey. Avenue Q is coming to ATL soon. 00:27 -!- nightcarnage_ [n=tom@c-68-53-17-129.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:28 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 00:29 <@Catonic> sup 00:46 -!- foursaiken [n=caiken@67.61.143.149] has joined #se2600 00:46 < foursaiken> hello all, was anyone in the 256 able to see the eclipse? 00:47 <@Corydon76-dig> I saw it in 615 00:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, partially 00:47 < foursaiken> aw, good, too cloudy / overcast here :( 00:47 <@Catonic> 205 was clear 00:47 <@Corydon76-dig> I looked, it was nice... it was cold, I went back inside 00:48 < foursaiken> Corydon76-dig: much like last one, was cold then too 00:48 <@Corydon76-dig> foursaiken: A/S/L/pic ? 00:48 < foursaiken> 25/m/jacksonville, al 00:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Pic? 00:49 < foursaiken> no pic right now, could dig one up from myspace / facebook perhaps 00:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Sweet 00:49 < foursaiken> new to 256 & bored, from 404 originally 00:49 * Corydon76-dig gets down to HSV once a week 00:50 < foursaiken> well, see i'm in j'ville al, aprox 100 some odd miles from all huntsville, lenox (atl), and auburn 00:50 <@Corydon76-dig> What, like east of B'ham? 00:50 < foursaiken> yah, north of oxford / anniston 00:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah 00:51 < foursaiken> shit-fuck ville so to say 00:51 <@Corydon76-dig> BFE? 00:51 < foursaiken> wtf is bfe? sry 00:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Bum Fuck, Egypt 00:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Slang for "in the middle of nowhere" 00:52 < foursaiken> *nods* exactly 00:52 <@Corydon76-dig> So where do you fit in in the computer world? 00:53 <@Catonic> some where above morse code, but below dialup 00:53 < foursaiken> lol maybe a little above dial up 00:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Network admin? 00:53 < foursaiken> bs:cs but really lazy and hate coding 00:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, I love coding 00:54 <@Catonic> come to birmingham, we have jobs 00:54 < foursaiken> so i hear, i have buddy in b'ham 00:54 <@Catonic> oh, wait.. you actually have a degree... you can work in huntsvill 00:55 < foursaiken> he lives near some place called McLeod something or other 00:55 <@someninjamaster> corydon teach me your codeing ways 00:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: I don't have a degree, and I work out of HSV 00:55 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: sure, as soon as this class is over 00:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Another 4 weeks or so 00:55 <@Catonic> you are an exeception for hsv 00:56 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm an exception for everywhere 00:56 < foursaiken> lol 00:56 <@someninjamaster> we just got into pointers in c and im pretty fucking lost 00:56 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: if I make it to HC on Saturday, we might could 00:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Howard will probably corner me into helping him with an install on Saturday 00:57 <@someninjamaster> im really having a hard time seeing what they are used for 00:57 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: they're just addresses of memory locations 00:58 <@someninjamaster> right 00:58 <@someninjamaster> that your grabbing a value from 00:58 <@someninjamaster> but i really dont see the use for it 00:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Much of it is because we have subroutines 00:58 -!- deoptima [n=Me@c-69-243-199-108.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )"] 00:59 <@Corydon76-dig> And when we call a routine, we pass a pointer in, so that the structure that exists there gets changed 00:59 <@Corydon76-dig> If you just passed in the whole structure into a subroutine, you'd be modifying a copy 00:59 < foursaiken> pointers are great, get to know them somen 00:59 <@Corydon76-dig> and that does you no good 01:00 <@someninjamaster> ah 01:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Even without structures, if you wanted to pass back multiple values out of a routine, you need to pass in locations of where to put the results 01:00 <@someninjamaster> so in other words it gives you the abilty to return multiple values from a function 01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> That's one advantage, yes 01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Much of my teaching on pointers involves writing out a memory map on the board 01:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Or think about a routine for initializing a structure... 01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Instead of duplicating the code to initialize a structure, you put the initialization in a single routine, and just pass in a pointer to that structure 01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> This becomes a lot more useful when you get into malloc/free 01:05 <@Corydon76-dig> and things like linked lists 01:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Just consider pointers as a stepping stone to get to more advanced uses 01:05 < foursaiken> ewwwww, linked lists j/k 01:06 <@someninjamaster> ah 01:06 <@Corydon76-dig> foursaiken: if that grosses you out, it's a good thing I haven't mentioned gay sex 01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> not that that would necessarily gross you out... 01:07 <@Corydon76-dig> you might even be interested... 01:08 <@Corydon76-dig> In which case, see you at Outerz0ne 01:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Anyway, I'm off to bed 01:08 <@Corydon76-dig> 'night 01:08 < foursaiken> lol not going to outerzone, and i like the womenz ;-) 01:08 <@someninjamaster> goodnight 01:09 < foursaiken> 'night to you too 01:09 <@Corydon76-dig> foursaiken: I like both 01:10 <@Catonic> well, now I know what pure evil smells like 01:10 < foursaiken> wow. i'm really excited the se2600 has activity in AL 01:10 <@Catonic> foursaiken: reppin 256 and 205. 01:11 < foursaiken> Catonic: there actually an industry in b'ham huh? 01:13 <@Catonic> mostly banking and other industries 01:13 <@Catonic> Huntsville is either high tech or military 01:13 < foursaiken> ah, ne1 use infodefender for banking / cu's? 01:13 <@Catonic> no idea.. 01:13 <@Catonic> I dn't ahave any contacts over in the banking sector 01:14 <@Catonic> we do have an infragard chapter that I've yet to attend 01:14 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: if I buy a TDI, does it make me metro? 01:14 < foursaiken> oh, infodefender = redhat packet filtering, keeps banks in compliance of not sending out ssn's / acct #'s 01:15 < foursaiken> oh wow infra? i dunno if i'd go, cooperation between private sector and fbi 01:16 <@Catonic> it's much more fun drinking with the agents 01:16 < foursaiken> probably like me and nothing to worry about ;-) so no problem 01:16 <@Catonic> the comments after the hackerpimps party were ... just too much fun =) 01:16 < foursaiken> does sound fun 01:19 < foursaiken> is hackerpimps local to 256? never heard of 01:19 <@Catonic> local to 904 01:19 <@Catonic> points of presence from Huntsville, to DC, to Jacksonville, FL 01:20 < foursaiken> oh, ok 01:22 <@Catonic> they keep calling me... 01:23 < foursaiken> oh, unsolicited? or just keep missing them? 01:24 < foursaiken> go to one, sounds fun? 01:24 <@Catonic> dead souls 01:30 <@Catonic> sometimes I wonder if the reasons why my life seems to be paralleled to so many NIN songs is because I subconsciously make it that way. 01:30 < foursaiken> you bot? lol cause that was random 01:32 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:33 -!- macogw [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 01:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o macogw] by ChanServ 01:40 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: you think PN has a radio budget? 01:40 <@Catonic> n/m 01:40 <@Catonic> night 01:48 <@someninjamaster> what do you mean by radio budget 01:49 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 01:49 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 01:50 < foursaiken> someninja: do you know what PN is? tell me? or should i lurk more? 01:50 <@someninjamaster> phreaknic 01:50 <@someninjamaster> its the con the nashville 2600 puts on 01:50 < foursaiken> nods, i know phreaknic, just never had acronym 01:51 <@someninjamaster> ah 01:51 < foursaiken> honestly, i suck at acronyms, i didn't know what BFE was earlier either, i type too long / everything out 01:51 < foursaiken> someninja: you in university right? 01:53 <@macogw> foursaiken: there's an OLPC seminar at my school and the professor has trouble with the acronym...OPLC, OLCP... 01:54 < foursaiken> macogw: see i don't know what OLPC is, it's a miracle i graduated 01:55 <@macogw> foursaiken: One Laptop Per Child project 01:55 < foursaiken> hey is that in Cobb Co. GA? they were trying to do that recently 01:55 <@someninjamaster> im in a community college 01:56 < foursaiken> for anyone that is one / lurking, where is everyone from? 01:56 <@someninjamaster> did you play with one of them macogw 01:56 < foursaiken> i'll start: i'm orginally from 404 / 770 (Atlanta, GA) and just moved to 256 (Jacksonville, AL) 01:56 <@macogw> someninjamaster: yeah, but i first played with one at Ubucon, since Mako (Ubuntu Community Director, I think?) works for them 01:58 <@someninjamaster> i was more impressed with the hardware 01:58 <@macogw> someninjamaster: we have 6 or 7 at the school and since all the EE's that wanted to see the hardware and Poli Sci / IA kids who wanted to study the social impact dropped out, it's now a bunch of kids that want to write games for it in python instead of yet another "lets do boring programming exercises in java" class 01:58 <@someninjamaster> than the software 01:58 <@someninjamaster> haha 01:58 <@someninjamaster> im trying to se a eeepc at work 01:59 <@macogw> the eeepc's vpnc is broken 01:59 <@macogw> well, either broken or has a bad default config 01:59 <@macogw> nothing actually goes through the tunnel 02:00 <@someninjamaster> i was planning on running xp off of it 02:00 <@someninjamaster> for inventory control 02:01 <@macogw> oh 02:01 <@macogw> ok 02:01 <@someninjamaster> i figure when inventory time rolls around just plug in a usb barcode reader 02:02 <@someninjamaster> and then i keep it for the other 51 weeks out of the year 02:13 <@wontonjoe> i hate relationships 02:18 < foursaiken> oh noes wonton. she moving out earlier than expected / or going psycho? 02:45 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:52 <@wontonjoe> hmm htis keylogger never sent me the ftp info 03:01 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:06 <@dasunt> wontonjoe: ? 03:10 <@wontonjoe> yes? 03:12 <+scort> which one are you using wontonjoe 03:12 <@wontonjoe> bfk 03:18 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 03:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 03:18 <@dasunt> wontonjoe: Why do you hate relationships? 03:19 <@dasunt> You didn't accidentally date my ex, did you? 03:23 -!- foursaiken [n=caiken@67.61.143.149] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:24 -!- foursaiken [n=caiken@67.61.143.149] has joined #se2600 03:27 <@dasunt> She's somehow of a geek magnet, but I have to warn you, prolonged contact with her may lead to bitterness and financial loss. 03:28 <@dasunt> LoL: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4317963 03:30 <@dasunt> We need more nations like that. 03:32 < foursaiken> blah blah blah durka durk muhammed jihad 03:33 <@macogw> thats true, though 03:34 <@macogw> i have a bunch of friends from Bosnia and they're like "yeah, we're Muslim, but we don't really go for all that crap with the veils and no alcohol and everything...everyone drinks, no one wears veils" 03:34 <@macogw> the one that told me that eats pork too 03:46 <@ShadowHntr> lol 03:47 <@ShadowHntr> one of my old mates in 206 03:47 <@ShadowHntr> muslim 03:47 <@ShadowHntr> won't drink but will smoke pot lol :) 03:47 <@ShadowHntr> 206 = wa2600 03:56 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 03:58 <@dasunt> It does seem like a rather secular region. 04:39 <@dasunt> Hey, the USN can shoot down unwanted satellites. 04:39 <@dasunt> It has now caught up with the 1980s USAF. 04:40 <@dasunt> Btw, can any se2600er geek explain to me how a fuel tank is expected to survive with enough fuel to be a threat when it (presumably) has pipes leading out of it that will be sheared off by re-entry, thus allowing it to outgas? 04:51 <+coil> evaporation? 04:57 <@Dagmar> dasunt: When the fuel isn't petroleum, but actually radioactive material that would otherwise have been forbidden to put into orbit. 04:57 <@Dagmar> It's very simple. 04:58 <@dasunt> Why would we be using a radioactive-fueled satellite in earth's orbit? 04:58 <@Dagmar> Ask Jonnyx for more details on the radioactive payload that almost went up in the shuttle that exploded. 04:58 <@dasunt> Thought they weren't used in the inner solar system, since they weren't efficient enough. 04:58 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Because we might want to overload it and drop it on someone or something. 04:58 <@macogw> did hackthissite.org just go down? i cant reach it through firefox anymore. pings to it are very slow 04:59 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Overload it? The nuclear powered systems don't work that way. 04:59 <@macogw> the alternative answer is somebody at the school is actually awake right now and seeing my network traffic 04:59 <@Dagmar> dasunt: so? 04:59 <@dasunt> AFAIK, when we send out nuke power satellites, they use a thermocouple to generate electricity, running a wire from the warm radioactive mass to the coldness of space. 04:59 <@Dagmar> I don't fuckin' care. 04:59 <@dasunt> There's no regulation. 04:59 <@Dagmar> Ask Jonnyx about it. 05:00 <@Dagmar> He's the one with the details on who was trying to send one up 05:00 <@dasunt> I will ask him about it when he's around. 05:00 <@Dagmar> I didn't give enough of a damn to commit them to memory. 05:00 <@dasunt> Hopefully this wasn't the one that the envirowackos was talking about several years ago. 05:00 <@Dagmar> I would not be in the _least_ suprised that, considering the time frame involved, the satellite they're worrying about now was actually the one that was taken off the shipping list just before that shuttle blew. 05:01 <@dasunt> I'm guessing that some idiots didn't think (understand it enough) and decided it could be a threat, and the navy wanted to blow something up anyways. 05:02 <@Dagmar> When a cover-up is the _most likely_ reason for doing something, it's time to worry. 05:02 <@dasunt> My political theories tend to assume incompetence. :p 05:03 <@Dagmar> I'd like to, but I've seen cover-ups first hand, so... 05:03 <@Dagmar> I no longer write them off automaticaly. 05:03 <@dasunt> I don't write them off automatically either, but I'm not prone to jump on them. 05:04 <@dasunt> Speaking of conspiracies, Castro is no longer president of Cuba, and yet some Americans still doubt the success of the Bay of Pigs invasion. :p 05:04 <@Dagmar> Downtown Nashville, just off Broadway, downtown, right next to where the Kinko's is now and there Tony Alamo's store used to be, there was once a massive chemical spill of some kind or other. 05:04 <@Dagmar> You will find no record of it. 05:04 <@Dagmar> ...but I fuckin' saw it. 05:05 <@Dagmar> I'm just kinda hoping it wasn't anything that will eventually cause me to have brain cancer or something. 05:05 <@Dagmar> Cops denied anything was going on at all. 05:06 <@dasunt> That burns me up. 05:06 <@Dagmar> But you don't get a chemical transport trailer, a cement mixer, two TDoT trucks, a couple of shady heavy-tinted four-doors like the FBI used, and six cop cars all in a knot at that part of Broadway at 1am for "nothing happening" 05:06 <@dasunt> News: Local news? Okay, heartwarming story of girl and her pony. Now, here's what is happning Nationally: [Detailed Synopsis on Britney Spears]" 05:06 <@Dagmar> They still had the peep shows and bars then. 05:06 <@Dagmar> The whole area had been cleared out. 05:07 <@dasunt> I will say when I was in west TN, the news was better. 05:07 <@Dagmar> ...and there was an odd looking low hanging cloud drifting south from there that the radio DJ at 104 (IIRC) noticed out his window and commented on, as I was driving through it. 05:07 <@dasunt> Once ran across several cop cars and a stopped vehicle in the middle of the road at night. 05:07 <@dasunt> Obviously something went down. 05:07 <@Dagmar> Tasted slightly almondy, and I don't know if that's anything significant or not. 05:08 <@dasunt> Ended up that someone got pulled over with a lot of stolen items, including firearms and weapons. 05:08 <@Dagmar> Dude this chemical truck was pretty much jacknifed in the side street 05:08 <@Dagmar> These vehicles were gathered around it, excepting the police vehicles that were blocking off Broadway for a block and a half in every direction. 05:08 <@dasunt> Same where I was at locally -- we reported an oil spill/burnoff from a busted pipe that took out about 2 acres of marsh. 05:09 <@Dagmar> Clearly, they cleared the area, and then covered it the hell up. 05:09 <@dasunt> Almonds == cyanide? 05:09 <@Dagmar> Dunno. 05:09 <@Dagmar> I didn't die obviously. 05:09 <@dasunt> Any local industrial plants? 05:09 <@Dagmar> None that I'm aware of 05:09 <@Dagmar> ...and considering what is downtown, I can think of exacltly zero reasons why a truck carrying that would have _ever_ been on that particular street. 05:10 <@dasunt> Could be something that you wouldn't think of -- like plastic molding, that uses the same chemical that is supposedly in the satellite we just blew up. 05:10 <@Dagmar> It was an awkward place to have taken such a truck to at any time, let alone the middle of the night. 05:11 <@Dagmar> There's no gas stations, no manufacturing going on there, and there was no construction going on there either. 05:11 <@Dagmar> I'm figuring someone stole the truck, got it that far, and then fucked up and wrecked it. 05:12 <@dasunt> I could see that. 05:12 <@Dagmar> This part of downtown _should_ have had 25-40 people wandering around visible on the street then 05:12 <@dasunt> I don't know the area, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was some sort of small industrial business there that you are unaware of -- some of my clients are in the oddest areas. 05:12 <@Dagmar> No one visible at all. The bar on the corner, _closed_ 05:13 <@Dagmar> There's a pretty paranoid BellSouth installation there, that's about it. 05:13 <@dasunt> Knowing truck drivers, it could be that the driver got there late and was going to sleep several hours in the cab before the place opened. 05:13 <@Dagmar> Everything else is cubicle farms 05:13 <@Dagmar> I knew that section of downtown very well indeed. 05:13 <@Dagmar> There's nothing that would haev precipitated that kind of vehicle being there. 05:14 <@Dagmar> But you just keep on theorizing. 05:14 <@dasunt> I'm just asking questions. 05:14 <@Dagmar> I've had about 10 years to try to think up something that would contravene what I saw. 05:14 <@dasunt> How nearby were the peep shows and bars there? 05:14 <@Dagmar> The same damn block. 05:14 <@dasunt> Lonely driver? 05:14 <@Dagmar> We're talking 30 yards. 05:15 <@Dagmar> dasunt: suuuuuure. With nothing but hourly parking lots and parallel parking, someone's going to actually be able to park a chemical hauler. 05:15 <@Dagmar> Riiiight. 05:16 <@dasunt> Wasn't it late? 05:16 <@Dagmar> 1:00-1:30am 05:16 <@dasunt> Parking lots should be empty. 05:16 <@Dagmar> Thursday night. 05:16 <@Dagmar> So what if the parking lots should be empty 05:17 <@Dagmar> YOU DON'T PARK A CHEMICAL HAULER IN A PARKING GARAGE BECAUSE IT WON'T FIT. 05:17 <@dasunt> I'm assuming this is a regular semi truck with 53' trailer, right? 05:17 <@Dagmar> You could _maybe_ get a small U-Haul truck into those facilities. A semi would never fit, or even make it around the first corner. 05:17 <@dasunt> It won't fit in any parking ramps, of course. 05:18 <@Dagmar> ...not unless it came out of somewhere subterranian that didn't officially exist. 05:18 <@dasunt> I'm always surprised where my father parks his rig. 05:18 <@Dagmar> I was having trouble figuring how the f*** it got the angle it did in the street 05:18 <@dasunt> He pulled in the strip mall where I work one day, where the UPS drivers has a hell of a time getting in and out with their smaller trucks. 05:19 <@Dagmar> Unless there's some serious sooper-sekrit-hideaway-brick-doorwalls there, it jackknifed 05:19 <@dasunt> From what little I understand, jacknifing does sound very likely. 05:19 <@Dagmar> Cops denied knowing anything about the next day, _and_ as an added bonus, someone else unexpectedly jumped in on the middle of the call and demanded to know who I was 05:19 <@dasunt> Cute. 05:20 <@Dagmar> So, that made me real glad I used a pay phone several blocks away from where I usually hang out to make the first call, for sure. 05:20 <@dasunt> Gotta love the assholes who dislike the lowly plebes asking questions of civil servants. 05:21 <@Dagmar> Hmm... time to go fetch food. 05:23 <@dasunt> Kill something and drag it back to your lair for your woman to cook. 05:25 <@Dagmar> By the way, this might have seemed like just another odd piece, but the real worrier is _why the fucking cement mixer_ 05:25 <@Dagmar> TDoT trucks, FBI unmarkeds, police cars I can understand, but the cement mixer really doesn't fit. 05:26 <@Dagmar> Something more than the usual was "up" that night is all I can figure. 05:26 <@dasunt> Was this a tanker trailer? 05:26 <@Dagmar> Yep. 05:26 <@Dagmar> Not a rectangular shipping box 05:26 <@dasunt> I'm trying to think of the link as well. 05:26 <@Dagmar> The trailer was the round kind you'd ship gasses or liquids in 05:27 <@Dagmar> _not_ marked with a company brand either. 05:27 <@dasunt> The trailers, or the trucks? 05:27 <@Dagmar> The trailer 05:27 <@Dagmar> I couldn't see the driver's part of the thing too well 05:27 <@dasunt> Could you see the brands on the trucks? 05:27 <@Dagmar> Those things are usually marked on the doors anyway 05:28 <@Dagmar> The TDoT trucks were the regular orange ford pickups they always used. 05:28 <@Dagmar> The cement truck I dont' remember whose logo was on it, but I'd seen them around before. 05:28 <@dasunt> i'm unaware of any trucking company that has stuff like mixers and semi trucks, but I could be wrong. 05:28 <@Dagmar> The tanker trailer was just unmarked silverish grey 05:29 <@Dagmar> anyway, must run off to get food snow 05:29 <@dasunt> If I think about it, next time I see my father or brother I'll ask him about it, and if has any theories. 05:32 -!- Shadow_P1one [i=shadow40@titan.blinkenshell.org] has joined #se2600 05:33 -!- Shadow_Phone [i=shadow40@titan.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 05:40 -!- LastChild [n=williscj@A041134.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has left #se2600 [] 05:48 <@dasunt> There are days where I want to put "Able to JFGI" as the first listed skill on my resume. 05:53 <@Dagmar> There should be a "using a search engines" test on most certs now IMHO 05:53 <@Dagmar> Give someone a reasonably job-related piece of trivia to look up, and fifteen minutes to do it. 05:54 <@dasunt> My sister emailed me yesterday. 05:54 <@dasunt> Their techhhead couldn't figure out how to get a windoes remote desktop client on a macintosh. 05:54 <@dasunt> <_< 06:04 <@macogw> did they try VNC? 06:14 <@Dagmar> Sad. 06:15 <@Dagmar> macogw: Please tell me you're at least aware that the thing has X 06:15 <@macogw> Dagmar: the Windows has X too? 06:16 <@Dagmar> If one has installed Cygwin/X, then yes. 06:16 <@macogw> can *any* Windows app run in the Cygwin X? I thought only the Cygwin-based ones could, but I haven't really played with it 06:18 <@Dagmar> You don't want me to answer that. 06:18 <@macogw> ok... 06:19 <@macogw> The only attempts I've ever made to remote into a Windows box ended when the person in need of tech support pointed out that if they knew what this port forwarding thing was and how to do it, they wouldnt need to ask for help with anything on their computer 06:37 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 06:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 06:43 <@sdodson> Apparently Gizmodo has a clip of that RIAA training video produced with the NDAA for US prosecutors that was leaked to torrent sites a few days ago. It argues they should pursue piracy cases because it leads to bigger and badder wares, like handguns, drugs, terrorist orgs, and hardcore repeat offender criminals. 06:43 <@sdodson> Dagmar: so kind 06:43 <@Dagmar> Yeah, it does, once you follow the trail all the way to Russia 06:45 <@Dagmar> ...but unfortunately, that's outside the RIAA's purview. 06:46 <@GodFix> For the record, captchas on a 2" smartphone screen are impossible as hell to read 06:46 <@GodFix> even worse when they're fake 06:46 <@macogw> haha 06:46 <@sdodson> captchas are lame 06:46 <@Dagmar> Just be glad they're not all down to "penis or not" tests 06:47 <@sdodson> I wonder how hard it would be to use google to defeat the new logic captchas. "Fire is hot or cold?" 06:47 <@GodFix> I haven't seen those yet 06:47 <@sdodson> wonder if corydon constantly reloads those pages so frequently that they ban his ip. 06:47 <@sdodson> http://www.bladevault.info/ has one to add comments 06:48 <@sdodson> Actually, that one seems limited to only fire hot or cold 06:49 <@sdodson> hmm, doctor's appointment, better go get yelled at "you're gonna die!" 06:50 <@GodFix> http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+beat+logic+captchas&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a 06:52 * sdodson wonders about GodFix 06:52 * GodFix is sitting, alone, in a clod room trying to stay awake 06:52 * GodFix is also trying to lrn2spl 06:53 <@sdodson> Why, no one else here bothers! 06:54 <@macogw> hay i kan speel gud 06:54 <@sdodson> I'm sure someone has already mentioned it but this sums up over 50% of the conversations here : http://xkcd.com/386/ 06:54 <@GodFix> there's a difference between bad spelling because of fat fingers and thug-idiocy 06:54 <@GodFix> I think everyone in here just has fat fingers 06:54 <@sdodson> 50% of the conversations and like 99% of the ones I participate in. 06:57 <@sdodson> GodFix: Tell that to those who repeatedly confuse your and you're and just write it off as "zomg this isnt' englishclass!!!" 06:58 <@GodFix> i write that off as the dumbing down of america 06:58 <@macogw> sdodson: i swear in first grade we were taught that "you'r" was an alternate spelling of "you're" and perfectly acceptable. if that was true (I don't think it is), then the common "ignore the apostrophes" thing would make that make sense 06:59 <@sdodson> GodFix: In that case Shadow_P1one and wontonjoe are the most downest motherfuckers ever. 06:59 <@GodFix> Japan couldn't beat is in a military conflict, they they got smart and gave us toys to make us stupid 06:59 <@macogw> er...don't you mean china? 06:59 <@macogw> they're the ones with the lead-paint toy thing 07:00 <@GodFix> China could beat us in a military conflict. they'd bury us under all the dead bodies 07:00 <@sdodson> Those make us stupid due to lead paint. The Japanese toys just make us drool. 07:00 <@GodFix> Lapan = tech toys 07:00 <@GodFix> Japan = Tech Toys 07:00 <@sdodson> design the tech toys, taiwan actually makes them 07:01 <@GodFix> the place i work for makes about 90% of anything with a circuit in it 07:01 <@GodFix> including the circuits themselves 07:01 <@GodFix> and they are based in TW 07:04 -!- MudFlap [n=mkeith@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 07:07 <@Dagmar> Give it time and the Chinese will be selling us "novelty" lead ingots for toddlers to play with 07:07 <@rattle> 18F. 07:07 <@rattle> Damn. 07:08 <@macogw> rattle: huh? 07:08 <@rattle> It's COLD. 07:08 <@Dagmar> http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/category.asp?C=101737 07:08 <@Dagmar> Another near-miss 07:08 <@macogw> rattle: oh. oh wait woah thats teh temp? dang walking to class will suck 07:08 <@GodFix> thought rattle was possessed by an 18 yr old gurl 07:08 <@macogw> GodFix: i thought he was talking about me 07:09 <@rattle> No, then I would have say something that started with omg. 07:09 <@macogw> well i was gonna point out that i cant be "the 18 year old" anymore 07:15 <@rattle> Na, you'll always be Tim's barely-of-age play thing. :) 07:16 <@rattle> The eclipse was pretty cool last night. 07:16 <@rattle> I never got a chance to use my "I'll blot out the moon!" threat for anything though.. 07:16 <@rattle> I wanted to pull a Columbus. 07:18 <@dasunt> ? 07:19 <@rattle> This was the same eclipse that Columbus used to scare the shit out of the natives of Jamaica when he and his crew were stranded. 07:19 <@rattle> He knew there was going to be an eclipse... So he told the natives that unless they provided him with food, he was going to blot out the moon. 07:19 <@rattle> I'm sure you can figure how it played out from there.. 07:20 <@macogw> rattle: the RAs gave us roof access last night so we could see it (roof's closed in the winter usually) 07:20 <@rattle> Nice. 07:25 <@macogw> rattle: hey maybe some day ill be his definitely-a-grown-up plaything :P 07:39 <@GodFix> sweet jesus! someone gave my ISP steroids... http://xostats.xo.com/bandwidthmeter/results.php?kbps=89240.5&downloadtime=0.047&KB=512&recorded=1 07:53 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 08:03 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 08:14 * oddball bangs his head against the desk 08:14 <@oddball> is iit really too much to ask for folks to properly shutdown a terminal session? 08:14 <+ware> you just click the 'X' 08:15 <@macogw> somebody leave a session open with emacs running and now its raping the server? 08:15 <+ware> ;) 08:15 <@oddball> oh... and in as administrator when your account has full privledges? 08:15 <@macogw> one of my friends did that...over 50% CPU on one of the school's big Sun servers was going to his emacs session 08:16 <@Dagmar> oddball: Time to change some desktop settings. 08:16 <@Dagmar> Black is the new Every Color. 08:17 <@oddball> no, this is a MS shop. We only have a license to support 2 remote connections to our main server, and these 2 asshats don't seem to understand that. 08:17 <@oddball> unfortunately, one of them is my boss... whose also the one that keeps logging in as admin 08:19 <@macogw> O_O there's a limit on how many people can ssh into the windows box? 08:20 <@macogw> is that the Windows EULA saying that or is that "we only have 2 licenses for Remote Deskop Server/Client Z"? 08:21 <@oddball> A server 2003 box will only allow 2 remote desktop sessions at a time unless you caugh up more cash 08:22 -!- MudFlap [n=mkeith@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 08:22 * brimstone looks around for dasunt 08:24 <@macogw> thats using RDP, then? 08:25 <@oddball> yeah 08:25 <@macogw> Can you have 2 RDP connections and then like 10 others using TightVNC? 08:26 <@Dolemite> uh, tightvnc doesn't give you a unique session 08:26 <@macogw> oh 08:26 <@Dolemite> at least for Windows 08:26 <@oddball> right 08:26 <@Dolemite> if you're running it on *nix and configured properly, it can create new X sessions 08:27 <@macogw> er i thought they all just viewed / messed with what was happening on the desktop right then 08:27 <@oddball> nope 08:28 <@macogw> huh ok 08:30 <@GodFix> how do you explain to somone the business impact of upgrading a 100MB network to 1GB? 08:30 <@GodFix> How would spending $30-50K increase productivity 08:30 <@GodFix> other than making pron come up faster for everyone 08:31 <@Dolemite> It depends on how the network is used 08:31 <@oddball> wow: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/state/content/gen/ap/FL_Live_Grenade.html 08:31 <@GodFix> how as in what type of traffic? 08:31 -!- macogw [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["leaving"] 08:32 <@Dolemite> What is the business need for the network itself? 08:32 <@Dolemite> Is it just used by the front office, or is it part of production? 08:32 <@oddball> GodFix: does the company use any sort of streaming media? 08:32 <@Dolemite> Do you perform network backups? 08:32 <@GodFix> production 08:32 <@GodFix> no streaming media 08:32 <@GodFix> all sql, e-mail 08:33 <@GodFix> backups done on a seperate network 08:34 <@Dolemite> then there's really not a business need to upgrade unless you're already saturating the network 08:35 <@GodFix> almost 600 users connecting through a bunch of gbit mini-switches that all feed to a single 100MB switch which feeds back to the DC 08:37 <@Dolemite> Ah, so you haven't looked at the business case of what you get out of moving from unmanaged to managed switches... 08:37 <@GodFix> yeah, that's part of it 08:37 <@GodFix> we essentially have an island of these things 08:40 <@GodFix> some stuff i can't say, but alot of it steems from some "cheapness" issues 08:41 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-182-65.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 08:41 -!- freakn [i=freakn@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:42 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-217-182-212.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 08:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 08:46 -!- MudFlap [n=mkeith@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 08:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 08:48 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 08:48 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 08:51 <@dc0de> sounds like the cheapness issues are what got you into an oversubscribed core in the first place... I would simply recommend a large core switch, and some monitoring tools to start with. 08:51 <@dc0de> Dagmar, black is the new BLACK 08:55 <@dc0de> and I'm off to god knows where.... 08:55 <@dc0de> catch you all l8r. 08:55 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:56 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has joined #se2600 08:56 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 08:58 -!- MudFlap [n=mkeith@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 09:15 <@seeblind> morning everybody 09:16 <@seeblind> GodFix: you can explain it to C-level managment like this 09:16 <@seeblind> you upgrade to GigE and we can do our image downloads faster 09:23 <@someninjamaster> yo know what really 09:23 <@someninjamaster> really 09:23 <@someninjamaster> pisses me off 09:23 <@seeblind> no, but your going to tell us 09:23 <@someninjamaster> yep 09:24 <@someninjamaster> my phone has been ringing off the hook on my day off 09:24 <@someninjamaster> because my mother cant find her fucking word documents 09:25 <@someninjamaster> and the instructions on how to find them are physically stuck to the monitor 09:25 <@seeblind> hard to tell your own mother to "go stick it" 09:25 <@Dagmar> No, no it's not, actually. 09:26 <@someninjamaster> it finally reached the point that i quit answering the phone 09:26 <@someninjamaster> so she let the house phone ring for 3 minutes 09:26 <@someninjamaster> then instantly swapped to my cell 09:26 <@someninjamaster> when it went back to the house phone 09:27 <@someninjamaster> when it went to voice mail 09:27 <@ladymerlin> turn your cell off and take the house phoen off the hook 09:27 <@someninjamaster> so in other words a phone has been ringing non stop for 15 09:27 <@someninjamaster> minutes 09:28 <@someninjamaster> i guess i could have done that 09:28 <@Dagmar> You _could_ always just pick up the phone and say "Look, I'm in the middle of masturbating. Can you call back in about two hours?" 09:28 <@brimstone> wait till the house phone is ringing, then take it off the hook 09:28 <@brimstone> really mess with her 09:28 <@Dagmar> s/Can you/You'll have to/; 09:29 <@oddball> you know... cell phones have an off button on them... and land lines don't work too good when you unplug them 09:29 <@someninjamaster> or i could just clock my self in remotely 09:29 <@someninjamaster> say im working on it 09:29 <@someninjamaster> and sleep for another hour 09:30 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:38 <@SkyDog_> Welcome to being tech support. 09:39 <@oddball> Being tech support AND working for the family pretty much means your fucked 09:44 <@Evilpig> you could always answer the phone with a flush or the sound of a plop 09:44 <@someninjamaster> wow i feel safe when the emergency alert system is skipping on tv 09:45 <@someninjamaster> fuck sleeping the calls wont stop 09:45 <@someninjamaster> i wonder is the alley is open yet 09:50 <@brimstone> gonna go bowl your problems away? 09:52 <@oddball> or maybe he's talking about Printer's Alley and he needs to go oogle some strippers? 09:54 <@Evilpig> mmmm strippers 09:55 <@someninjamaster> bowl 09:55 <@brimstone> paint strippers? 09:56 <@Dolemite> Printer's Alley strippers aren't what they used to be :( 10:00 <@oddball> It amuses me that it's considered a tourist hot spot, but few tourists know what's actually in it until they get there. 10:00 <@someninjamaster> haha http://www.marilith.com/ 10:03 <@Evilpig> dell support is a fucking joke 10:03 <@Evilpig> been transferred to 5 different people now for an out of warranty motherboard 10:03 <@Evilpig> and hte last dude had to be a mexican. 10:04 <@oddball> buisness account, or home machine? 10:04 <@Evilpig> business 10:04 <@oddball> wow 10:04 <@Evilpig> trying to get a server motherboard replaced out of warranty and they don't seem to know how to handle it 10:05 <@Evilpig> in factt the last dude told me my case number wasn't valid. even though the last four people before him pulled it up 10:05 <@oddball> nice! 10:06 <@brimstone> they're os helpful 10:15 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has joined #se2600 10:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 10:29 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 10:29 <@dc0de> sdodson, ping 10:30 -!- MudFlap [n=asdf@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 10:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 10:46 -!- Corydon76-vcch_ is now known as Corydon76-vcch 10:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-vcch] by ChanServ 11:19 <+ware> wee 11:20 <@dc0de> sdodson? 11:31 <@Evilpig> messican or pad thai? 11:32 <@dc0de> pad 11:32 -!- Shadow_P1one is now known as Shadow_Phone 11:33 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow_Phone] by ChanServ 11:33 <@Evilpig> i'm thinking that sounds like a good plan 11:33 <@dc0de> If I had a choice, that's what it would be... 11:43 <+ware> yay for whoremongering control freaks who dont get their way! 11:48 <@Shadow_Phone> boss? 11:48 <+ware> nah a sister company 11:48 <+ware> with little girly men for managers 11:48 <@Shadow_Phone> oh, we have shit like that here 11:48 <+ware> who think they manage what i do 11:48 <+ware> ha! 11:49 <+ware> he comes up and says 'alright lets do go do this' 11:49 <+ware> and i said no not til this afternoon 11:49 <+ware> and he says it wont work for him this afternoon 11:49 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, yeah, field ops pushes to get shit down outside of the proper channels by going right to implementation (me) and without papwer work, i just say, haha, fat chance 11:49 <+ware> and i said 'hey cant you see im trying to IRC?' 11:49 <+ware> yuhp 11:50 <@Shadow_Phone> man, i love when people move up the schedules for shit cause they are free now 11:50 <@Shadow_Phone> i have to plan my day and schedule shit, i can just say, customer "A" sorry, but customer "B" is ready now so ill have to reschedule 11:51 <@Shadow_Phone> i just tell customer "B" sorry, ill have to stck to your original time slot you requested since i have another meeting 11:51 <@Shadow_Phone> then they get in a hissy and clal their sales team which then in return call and bitch me 11:51 <@Shadow_Phone> thats why i like my boss cause he steps in and says, sorry, you fail 11:54 <@Shadow_Phone> !minicity 11:54 <@brimstone> Population: 15769 Revenues: 3676300 Unemployment: 0% Transports: 99% Criminality: 0% Pollution: 0% 1733 ahead of beltegueuse 11:54 <@Shadow_Phone> yep, were losing ground 11:57 <@Evilpig> that town came out of nowhere too. 11:58 <@Shadow_Phone> about 80 pop a day 11:58 <@Evilpig> hrmm. I have another server I might be able to setup to spam the site. i'll see after lunch 12:02 -!- freakn [i=freakn@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #se2600 12:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o freakn] by ChanServ 12:13 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@74.93.113.209] has joined #se2600 12:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 12:28 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@74.93.113.209] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 12:30 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@74.93.113.209] has joined #se2600 12:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 12:32 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@74.93.113.209] has quit [Client Quit] 12:47 <@Evilpig> damnit didn't charge the ds last night so now i'm bored at lunch 12:47 <+ware> how'd the satellite blowup go? 12:47 <+ware> i havent heard anything about it 12:49 <+ware> At least Hillary can cheer up now.....she's not the only thing going down in a ball of flames. 12:59 <@dc0de> http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/ver/251.7/popup/index.php?cl=6535007 13:04 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:05 < Feltenix> http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=50894 video of a missile going up and hitting it 13:05 <@Catonic> whee. 13:11 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has joined #se2600 13:11 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 13:11 <@Catonic> wontonjoe needs strippers 13:11 * Catonic passes the hat 13:13 <@I-MOD> the stripper hat? 13:19 <@Catonic> yase 13:19 <@Catonic> he's a single man. 13:20 -!- squirrelt3rd [n=non3@c-76-18-185-218.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:35 <@Pr0nStrGeek> lol 13:35 <+ware> Pr0nStrGeek did Catonic 13:35 <@Pr0nStrGeek> one of my friends down here turns 30 next week... his wife swore there would be lesbian dinners... 13:35 <@Pr0nStrGeek> er... lesbian strippers 13:35 <@Pr0nStrGeek> that has since turned into a family friendly dinner instead... 13:35 <+ware> rofl somebodys hungry 13:36 <@Pr0nStrGeek> i say kill the bitch... lol 13:36 <@Pr0nStrGeek> i should call and remind her that fraud is a valid reason for a marriage annulment in the state of alabama... and since she promised that before they were married... 13:38 <+ware> hahaha 13:38 <@Catonic> paging dr. freud 13:39 <@rhia> he's baaa-aack http://lnk.nu/stltoday.com/iv8 13:39 <@Catonic> Pr0nStrGeek: that may mean the strippers are for later 13:39 <@Catonic> however, if the woman isn't willing to accept that for a special occasion... 13:40 <@Catonic> he already fucked up... 13:40 <@Catonic> she's got all the pussy and she's wearing the pants. 13:40 <@Pr0nStrGeek> yeah... this dude is a pushover... 13:42 <@Catonic> most guys are 13:42 <@Dolemite> heh, the Harrah's site actually has some pretty good online casino games (play for fun, not money) 13:42 <@Dolemite> no need to buy Hoyle Casino for the laptop if you've got internets access, I guess 13:42 <@Pr0nStrGeek> while he was getting a lapdance one night, the stripper leaned over... unbuttoned the second button on my shirt and told jenn... "tell your man to leave that one unbuttoned from now on" 13:43 <@Pr0nStrGeek> the only shit i ever ate over it was a VP at my last job looked at me and commented one day... 13:43 <@Pr0nStrGeek> i smiled back at him and said... avery... i value your input... but the hot sister stripper's input on my clothing carries more weight than yours... =) 13:45 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:46 <@rhia> stipper nun? 13:46 <@rhia> r ran away from that one... 13:46 <@Pr0nStrGeek> no no... there were two girls who were sisters at this club 13:47 <@rhia> ahhh, clear as mud 13:47 <@Pr0nStrGeek> yeah... probably would have been valuable information before i threw out "sister stripper" 13:47 <@rhia> heh 13:48 <@Dolemite> She's shedding her clothes and her sins! 13:49 <@Catonic> Pr0nStrGeek: eh... 13:49 <@Catonic> Mercedes and what's her face? ;-) 13:49 <@Catonic> shit, I always thought of her sister's name first.. 13:49 <@Pr0nStrGeek> she had a sister? 13:50 <@Catonic> yeah, didn't look much like her though 13:50 <@Pr0nStrGeek> did she work there when i was around? 13:50 <@Catonic> I remember talking with Jessica or someone about it and I was like "They don't look alike, where do you see it?" "Look at thier legs..." 13:50 <@Catonic> yeah, she was there before and after I think 13:51 <@Catonic> man, I miss Sydney's ass. 13:51 <@sdodson> http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3699/coolmodivatepg0.jpg 13:51 <@sdodson> dc0de: hai 13:51 <@Catonic> funny. 13:52 <@Catonic> some guys will do anything to stick out in a crowd 13:55 <@Pr0nStrGeek> polo shirts will never stick out in a crowd... 13:55 <@Catonic> http://www.abc3340.com/news/stories/0907/454791.html 13:55 <@Pr0nStrGeek> unless you're at a NIN concert... 13:55 <@Catonic> ask ladymerlin about NIN on halloween 13:55 <@Pr0nStrGeek> i enjoyed NIN on 6/6/06... =) 13:55 <@Catonic> I <3 NIN concerts on Halloween 13:55 <@Catonic> All the hot girls dress like strippers 13:56 <@Catonic> and the security guards are pissed because someone shows up with a costume that is covered in clothespins 13:56 <@Catonic> can't take that through the metal detector =) 13:56 <@ladymerlin> hehehe that was a fun concert 13:58 <@dasunt> What concert? 14:00 <@Catonic> NIN on 10/31/2005 14:01 <@Catonic> nothing like hearing NIN in an arena with 50,000 watts 14:01 <@Catonic> they had an echo coming back from the far side of Gaylord 14:01 <@Catonic> I still have one minute and thirty seconds of 'Hurt' in my phoen 14:02 <+ware> when'd you go on halloween? 14:02 <+ware> 2 years ago? 14:02 * Catonic headdesks 14:02 <+ware> oh wait haha 14:02 <+ware> 10/31/05 rofl 14:02 <+ware> i talk before i think cmon.. 14:03 <+ware> i was there 14:03 <@Catonic> I don't read things rendered in HTML. 14:03 <@Catonic> I remember running into rattle there. 14:03 <+ware> we were so hammered i dont remember much 14:03 <@ladymerlin> and psyiod and his dad 14:03 <@Catonic> oh yeah 14:03 <@Catonic> I forgot about that 14:03 <@Catonic> Psyiode was at the concert... 14:04 <@Catonic> it's NIN... 14:04 <@Catonic> he's one of two guys there wearing a tie-dye t-shirt 14:04 <@Dolemite> I saw NIN open for David Bowie 14:04 <@Dolemite> Now that was a cool concert 14:04 <@Pr0nStrGeek> is that the show where they did Comfortably Numb? 14:04 <@Catonic> I'm afraid of Americans? 14:05 <@Dolemite> David Bowie's "Outside" tour 14:06 <@Catonic> Pr0nStrGeek: do we have anying remotely close to an Ikea down here? 14:06 <@Pr0nStrGeek> the Roger Waters, David Bowie, NIN "Comfortably Numb" was awesome... 14:06 <@Catonic> Or do I need to move to Atlanta for that? 14:06 <@Pr0nStrGeek> hmmm... depends on how close you consider DirectBuy... 14:06 <@Pr0nStrGeek> otherwise, i think the closest thing we've got are warehouse clubs... 14:06 <@Pr0nStrGeek> there's the ikea in downtown atlanta... 14:06 <@Catonic> Yeah, I've been there... 14:06 <@Pr0nStrGeek> but not shit in birmingham... 14:07 <@Catonic> right around from Atlantic station, close to the aquarium 14:07 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:07 <@Catonic> bleh. 14:08 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 14:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 14:08 <@Catonic> This market is ripe for an Ikea 14:09 <@Shadow_Phone> poor folks, wanting nice faux furniture and furnishings? 14:09 <@dasunt> Shadow_Phone: Poor? Gah, my Ikea isn't dirt cheap. 14:09 <@dasunt> Wish it was. 14:10 <@dasunt> I'd say that walmart is much cheaper. 14:10 <@Shadow_Phone> compared to nice stuff like crate and barrel furniture stores it is 14:10 <@Shadow_Phone> or macys 14:10 <@I-MOD> i'd rather build my own than buy ikea. it won't be as pretty, but it will be 1/8 the cost or less 14:10 <@dasunt> Ikea is more midrange, I think. 14:10 <@dasunt> Maybe lower midrange. 14:11 <@I-MOD> i need to get some woodworking tools 14:11 <@Dolemite> Ikea is mid-range quality, low range price 14:11 <@Dolemite> Wal-mart is low range quality, bottom of the barrel price 14:12 <@dasunt> LoL. 14:12 <@dasunt> I-MOD: I've considered woodworking tools just for bookshelves. 14:12 <@Catonic> where is crate and barrell? 14:12 <@Catonic> dasunt: you're in the midwest. If you're not making something during winter, you're full of fail 14:13 <@dasunt> I'm making agony! 14:13 <@Catonic> dasunt: enough man.. 14:13 <@Catonic> grow some balls and get out of the funk 14:15 <@Evilpig> alright I have one more server hitting the minicity. 14:15 <@someninjaserver> woot shark dissection in class today 14:16 <@dasunt> Why don't you encourage me to do something safer? Like juggling running chainsaws while blindfolded? 14:16 <@Evilpig> while wearing rollerskates 14:18 <@Evilpig> does anyone know where I can order pudding? like the kind used in restaurants in the big cans? 14:18 <@Evilpig> and I need a place that will ship via ups or something 14:19 <@Catonic> dasunt: I'm just trying to encourage you to get an STD so you can really share the love. 14:19 <@dasunt> Evilpig: Shouldn't a big grocery store have it in the bulk food aisle? 14:19 <@dasunt> That's where I've seen it. 14:19 <@Catonic> Just think... Herpes opens up another 20% of the population that puts out on a regular basis. 14:19 <@someninjaserver> Evilpig: why do you need that much pudding 14:19 <@someninjaserver> wait i dont want to know 14:19 <@Evilpig> don't ask. just need answer. 14:20 <@Evilpig> you should never ask. just realize it's probably funny and you want to see it happen 14:20 <@Evilpig> as a side note. anyone have skydog's address? 14:20 <@Catonic> Oh yeah... 14:20 <@someninjaserver> try sams 14:20 <@Catonic> Call up a food distributor like sysco and see what they have 14:20 <@Catonic> you know, those places the school cafeteria buys from 14:21 <@Evilpig> oooo good idea 14:21 <@Shadow_Phone> Catonic: im sure that most of the groups has some sort of std by now 14:21 <@someninjaserver> i dont think sysco sales to the public 14:21 <@someninjaserver> sells 14:21 <@someninjaserver> because i tried to buy some pizzas from them once 14:21 <@Evilpig> i'll call my mom. she has an account with sysco for the restaurant 14:22 <@Shadow_Phone> Evilpig: cant, im on the phone with her right now 14:22 <@Evilpig> liar cause I am 14:22 <@Pr0nStrGeek> catonic: you jackass... you stole my herpes logic 14:22 <@Shadow_Phone> damn, call waiting 14:22 <@someninjaserver> then whose mom is shadow talking to 14:23 <@dasunt> Evilpig: Seriously, call a large grocery store. 14:23 <@Catonic> Pr0nStrGeek: yes, I just raped it =) 14:23 <@Evilpig> notlarry's 14:23 <@Shadow_Phone> someninjaserver: must be yours, i can never keep them straight 14:23 <@someninjaserver> oh 14:23 <@someninjaserver> tell her to bring home some tacos 14:23 <@Shadow_Phone> im geting hot tacos from her right now 14:24 <@Catonic> Pr0nStrGeek: did you ever talk to kelly about george? 14:25 <@Catonic> apparenrly george slept with colleen 14:25 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, as the world turns 14:26 <@Catonic> do we have our own version of that yet? 14:26 <@Catonic> oh wait, if it happens here, it winds up on the sexchar 14:26 <@Catonic> *sexchart 14:27 <@Catonic> t-shirt: "If you fuck me, the internet will find out." 14:27 <@Shadow_Phone> speaking of, whos gonna update it 14:28 <@Catonic> Shadow_Phone: I dunno. How does that work exactly? It's not like an RFC or anything... 14:28 <@Evilpig> lol. mom tells me they used to sell pudding by the bucket 14:29 <@Catonic> Evilpig: ask them how much by the kiddie pool? 14:35 <@someninjaserver> catonic what was your phreaknic radio budget question 14:35 <@Catonic> oh.. 14:35 <@Catonic> I have too much shit I need to get rid of... 14:35 <@Catonic> and I have something like four secure VHF radios 14:35 <@Catonic> and a six-gang charger 14:36 <@dasunt> Well, I'm pretty sure I just fucked myself over. 14:36 <@Catonic> however... they are not waterproof 14:36 <@dasunt> Woot. 14:36 <@Catonic> dasunt: congrats, you got fucked! 14:36 * Catonic throws a party for dasunt 14:36 <@dasunt> Catonic: Probably repeatedly, with no lube. 14:36 <@Catonic> keep your kink to yourself please. 14:37 <@Corydon76-vcch> Catonic: yeah, we could take them 14:37 <@Catonic> well, if I get in a donating mood again... 14:37 <@I-MOD> dasunt, sounds like you're having fun over there 14:38 <@Corydon76-vcch> Catonic: issue is that we have a source for radios that doesn't cost us anything 14:38 <@Catonic> Pr0nStrGeek: there's 281 members in the Wallace Community College facebook group 14:38 <@dasunt> If thi is fun, I'd rather take agony. 14:38 <@Corydon76-vcch> Catonic: i.e. somebody lends them to us 14:38 <@Catonic> dasunt: you need to get into S&M 14:38 <@Neoteric> huh... 14:38 <@Neoteric> anyone wantajobw/theworldbank? 14:39 <@Catonic> DC or NYC? 14:39 <@Catonic> Hrm.. what a concept.. 14:39 <@Neoteric> http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/hero/sfbio/#isvgal 14:40 <@Neoteric> Catonic: DC or NYC... how about outer mongolia? 14:40 <@Catonic> http://bp0.blogger.com/_a7jkcMVp5Vg/R7YswtP2NGI/AAAAAAAAEMs/TlAc8LoxpTQ/s1600-h/bible.jpg <- ouch 14:40 <@Catonic> Neoteric: nah, too difficult to reliably get condoms, western medical care, and escape an international incident. 14:41 <@someninjaserver> are you intrested in selling them 14:41 <@someninjaserver> sorry catonic are you intrested in selling them 14:41 <@Catonic> yeah... 14:41 <@Catonic> but I know that one radio needs some parts.. 14:41 <@Catonic> and most need batteries 14:42 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:42 <@someninjaserver> do you have brand of specs on them 14:42 <@someninjaserver> or specs 14:43 <@Catonic> http://bp0.blogger.com/_a7jkcMVp5Vg/R7YsWtP2M-I/AAAAAAAAELs/loUYSquNU8k/s1600-h/win.jpg <- I must meet this woman 14:46 <@Shadow_Phone> nice 14:46 <@Catonic> someninjaserver: they will comply with MURS 14:46 <@Catonic> but I dont think I can stretch them for more than one channel 14:49 <@Neoteric> Catonic: you're a moron. in mogolia you have horses 14:49 <@Catonic> Neoteric: I know nothing of Asia. I haven't been back since I left. 14:51 <@Dagmar> Maybe we should explain the concept of "trannies" to Catonic 14:52 <@Dagmar> There doesn't appear to be any guarantee that's a woman, and this _is_ the interwebs 14:52 <@Catonic> Dagmar: Am familiar with the concept. 14:57 <@Shadow_Phone> ah yess, but are you familiar with the birds and the bees? 14:58 <@Evilpig> bees like trashcans 14:58 <@Shadow_Phone> Evilpig: many diffrent perspectives 14:59 <@Evilpig> no I think it is pretty universal. those fuckers tend to live in them. especially in the summertime when there are things like cokes in them 15:00 <@Catonic> Evilpig: that's one way to explain it... 15:00 <@juice> Shadow_Phone, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnr6ciV1q-g 15:00 <@Catonic> certainly works for ware... 15:05 <@dasunt> Gah. 15:06 <@Catonic> Evilpig: now that I think about it, you may have bees confused with yellow jackets 15:07 <@Catonic> I've never been stung by a bee, but I've been bitten by ants and stung several times by yellow jackets 15:11 <@someninjaserver> i have been stung alot by a wasp 15:11 <@someninjaserver> one flew up my pants leg once 15:11 <@someninjaserver> you would be supprised how much your calf swells up after being stung 4 times 15:13 < remoford> ouch 15:13 <@Dagmar> I imagine that must have involved a lot of obscenities 15:14 <@Dagmar> I was stung by a wasp *once*. 15:14 <@Dagmar> I thought someone shot me 15:14 <@Dagmar> Knopit: They are 15:15 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, wasps fucking heart, like 5 times worse then a yellow jacket 15:15 <@Shadow_Phone> *hurt 15:15 <@someninjaserver> i couldnt wear pants for a weel 15:15 <@someninjaserver> weel 15:15 <@someninjaserver> week 15:17 <@Catonic> was that when you bought your first kilt? 15:20 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, i may have to buy a kilt soon 15:20 <@Shadow_Phone> and they aint cheap 15:21 <@Catonic> Aren't you of English descent? Does that mean that her father will try to kill you for polluting thier gene pool? 15:21 <@Shadow_Phone> na, im of irish descent 15:22 <@Shadow_Phone> so even if its a cross relation, the man wears a kilt 15:24 <@Catonic> oh great... 15:24 <@dasunt> In the US, kilts are known as "skirts", just FYI. 15:24 <@dasunt> :p 15:24 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, yeah, so would be embarrased 15:32 <@dasunt> I want this: http://www.wildwords.us/ 15:34 <@Catonic> I'll wear a kilt. 15:35 <@Catonic> but my lineage is English 15:35 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 15:39 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:40 <+coil> !minicity 15:40 <@brimstone> Population: 15809 Revenues: 3685300 Unemployment: 0% Transports: 100% Criminality: 0% Pollution: 1% 1740 ahead of beltegueuse 15:41 <@Shadow_Phone> were losing ground 15:42 * coil loads up the wall hack scripts 15:42 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has joined #se2600 15:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 15:44 <@Evilpig> 11:54 1733 just now it was 1740. barely gaining now 15:44 <+ware> IM NOT GONNA WRITE YOU A LOVE SONG 15:44 <+ware> CAUSE YOU ASKED FOR IT 15:44 <+ware> CAUSE YOU NEED IT 15:45 * ware dances with Evilpig 15:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [-v ware] by Evilpig 15:45 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: you still runnign the script? 15:45 < ware> i never was 15:45 <@Shadow_Phone> for that matter, who all is still running the script? 15:45 <@Shadow_Phone> why not? 15:45 <@Evilpig> I have it on three machines 15:45 <@Shadow_Phone> i got it on one 15:45 < ware> i dont have a box to put it on 15:46 < ware> ive been riding off the neighbors wifi with my desktop for months 15:46 < ware> and no network setup at home 15:46 <@Catonic> Shadow_Phone: what's the objective here with minicity? 15:46 <@Shadow_Phone> to keep our city #1 15:46 <@Shadow_Phone> basically run scripts at it and keep it #1 15:46 <@Catonic> how does one do that? lynx in a script? 15:47 <@Shadow_Phone> or 15:47 <@Shadow_Phone> *tor 15:47 <@Shadow_Phone> and a bsh script 15:47 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.41] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:48 <@Catonic> what's the sleep interval? 15:48 <@Catonic> how often? 15:48 <@Shadow_Phone> it runs on it own 15:48 <@Shadow_Phone> setup tor on your linux box 15:49 <@Catonic> how often can you hit the URL? 15:49 < ware> https://the.narro.ws/~brimstone/minicity/ 15:49 < ware> once per day per ip 15:50 <@Catonic> man... 15:50 <@Catonic> that's too bad 15:50 <@rhia> once per day per ip - or once per day per url and ip 15:50 <@Shadow_Phone> thats why we use tor 15:50 <@rhia> ? 15:51 <@Shadow_Phone> one ip per day 15:51 <@Shadow_Phone> to any url 15:51 <+coil> im running it usually on 3 (right now 2) 15:51 < ware> yeah you only get to choose one type of contribution to the city per ip per day 15:51 <@Shadow_Phone> thats why the script levels it off 15:52 <@Shadow_Phone> not the most efficient, but it works 15:52 <+coil> Thu Feb 21 15:50:29 CST 2008 81.169.183.122 0 se2600 tra/ Population: 15811 Revenues: 3686100 Unemployment: 0% Transports: 100% Criminality: 0% Pollution: 1% 15:52 <+coil> heh that didn't copy well 15:52 <@Shadow_Phone> it worked 15:55 < ware> MAN 15:55 < ware> i have to drive to fucking sparta to troubleshoot a home VPN connection 15:56 <@Shadow_Phone> nice 15:56 < ware> how the fuck am i gonna make it back to nashville to goto a preds game at 7 15:56 <+coil> sparta? 15:56 < ware> this is cunt shit 15:56 < ware> THIS IS SPAARRTAAA! 15:56 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl 15:56 <@Shadow_Phone> kick the user into a pit 15:56 * ware kicks coil into the pit 15:57 * Catonic kicks ware in after him 15:57 <@Catonic> There, two birds with one pit. 15:57 <+coil> AHAHAHA 15:57 < ware> lol 15:57 -!- Obl [n=bgjgdj@c-69-137-93-252.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:05 -!- Obl1 [n=bgjgdj@c-69-137-93-252.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:06 -!- Obl1 [n=bgjgdj@c-69-137-93-252.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:18 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 16:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 16:21 -!- Obl [n=bgjgdj@c-69-137-93-252.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:31 -!- MudFlap [n=asdf@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 16:39 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:39 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 16:49 * Catonic punts Neoteric 16:55 -!- Pr0nStrGeek [n=bleh@66.199.31.1] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:00 -!- Pr0nStrGeek [n=bleh@66.199.31.1] has joined #se2600 17:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Pr0nStrGeek] by ChanServ --- Log closed Thu Feb 21 17:07:16 2008 --- Log opened Thu Feb 21 17:07:21 2008 17:07 -!- Evilpig [n=wilpig@blueboy.wilpig.org] has joined #se2600 17:07 -!- Irssi: #se2600: Total of 50 nicks [33 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 16 normal] 17:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Evilpig] by ChanServ 17:07 -!- Irssi: Join to #se2600 was synced in 4 secs 17:07 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/sdodson] has joined #se2600 17:08 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 17:08 -!- nz [n=rmjackso@cpe-098-026-037-136.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 17:09 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 17:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 17:10 -!- scort [i=scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- rhia [n=rhia@cpe-76-184-98-159.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- fall0ut [i=tim@66.29.228.2] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- cerkit [i=cerkit@point1.infophobia.net] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- Opheria [i=Opheria@c-69-180-209-3.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- Dagmar [n=dagmar@unaffiliated/dagmar] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+oooo Neoteric rhia Opheria Dagmar] by irc.freenode.net 17:16 -!- Dolemite [n=scott@70.43.59.190.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 17:16 -!- ServerMode/#se2600 [+o Dolemite] by irc.freenode.net 17:16 <@Catonic> damn 17:17 <@Catonic> I just saw an add on something awful that said that spyware steals your virginity 17:17 <@Shadow_Phone> congrats Catonic! 17:18 <+coil> no 17:18 <@Evilpig> lol 17:19 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: @Dolemite, @Opheria, @Neoteric, @Dagmar, @rhia, cerkit, fall0ut 17:19 -!- Dagmar_ [i=dagmar@c-68-52-36-194.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #SE2600 17:19 -!- fall0ut [i=tim@realfuckingnews.com] has joined #se2600 17:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Dolemite, rhia 17:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rhia] by ChanServ 17:20 <@Catonic> Shadow_Phone: but why do I feel so used? 17:21 <@Shadow_Phone> look at your past 17:21 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, im right there with ya 17:22 <@Catonic> hey, are you doing to be able to make Flogging Molly? 17:23 <@dc0de> speaking of feeling used.... 17:23 <@Shadow_Phone> grrr 17:23 <@Catonic> dc0de: You weren't complaining last night. 17:23 <@Shadow_Phone> when is that again? 17:23 <@Catonic> 3/6 17:23 <@Shadow_Phone> looks good so far 17:23 <@dc0de> Catonic, I mean "Flogging Molly"... sounds pretty "used". 17:24 <@Shadow_Phone> dont you flog your woman? 17:24 <@dc0de> What, me? complain? when? 17:24 <@Shadow_Phone> or are you a saquare? 17:24 <@Shadow_Phone> *square? 17:24 <@Catonic> it's at tabernacle and I have't the foggiest where that is 17:24 <@dc0de> well, I'm off to the home... 17:24 <@Shadow_Phone> Catonic: remember were you parked at my work? 17:24 <@Catonic> yeah 17:24 <@Shadow_Phone> 2 minute walking distance up the side of the park 17:24 <@Catonic> can I borrow your parking card? 17:24 -!- Dagmar_ is now known as Dagmar 17:24 <@Shadow_Phone> yep 17:25 <@dc0de> these 12-15 hour days are starting to make me insane. (more...) 17:25 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:25 <@Catonic> dc0de: why are you working so much? 17:25 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Dagmar] by ChanServ 17:26 <@Catonic> dc0de 17:26 <@Catonic> why is my autocomplete broken? 17:26 <@Shadow_Phone> he left 17:27 <@Shadow_Phone> 00:25 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@65.217.31.17] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:27 <@Shadow_Phone> just after he talked about the 12-15 hour day 17:27 <@Catonic> http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/02-08-08-superbowl/partagas150.jpg 17:27 <@Catonic> ooh. 17:27 <@Catonic> I missed that. 17:27 <@Catonic> Colorblind 17:28 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 17:31 -!- scort [i=scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has quit ["WeeChat 0.2.6"] 17:33 <@Catonic> http://i.somethingawful.com/u/livestock/2008/phriday/01_18_08_emergency/Blood_fart1.jpg 17:33 -!- scort [i=scott@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 17:34 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v scort] by ChanServ 17:42 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]"] 17:54 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:56 <@dasunt> Damn, am I in a dark mood. 17:59 <@rhia> dasunt: don't take it too wrong, but ..... again? or still? 18:00 <@dasunt> It is a continuation, but damn, it is getting darker. 18:04 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 18:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 18:06 <@brimstone> dasunt: oh, i got a present for you 18:13 <@dasunt> Oh? 18:19 <@sdodson> hi! 18:20 <@tcstool> evening sdodson 18:22 <@sdodson> sup, everyone doing well? 18:23 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:24 -!- foursaiken [n=caiken@67.61.143.149] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:24 -!- MxZBot [n=mxzbot@maxiez.com] has joined #se2600 18:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v MxZBot] by ChanServ 18:36 <@brimstone> dasunt: http://kraken.hgomez.org/make/ every make magazine issue in pdf form 18:36 <@dasunt> Ah, thanks. 18:36 <@sdodson> zomb brimstone hax 18:43 < ware> who sings that song 18:43 < ware> 'i dont need to run around in circles, run around in circles' 18:43 < ware> something like that 18:43 < ware> oh walk around in circles 18:44 < ware> http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/soul_coughing/1433446/lyrics.jhtml 18:45 <@sdodson> soul coughing 18:45 <@sdodson> err ya there you go 18:46 <@sdodson> that dude sounds like the bloodhound gang dude if i recall 18:46 < ware> someone played it at the poolhall the other day 18:46 < ware> my next big media project is going to get shit that kicked in the 90s 18:46 <@sasquatc4> he does vocals for alot of things, he's like BT's go to guy for vocals 18:47 < ware> oh cool shit i didnt know that 18:47 <@sdodson> BT? 18:48 <@sasquatc4> dj, producer, composer 18:48 <@sasquatc4> he's done a ton of soundtracks for movies as well 18:48 <@sdodson> So not british telecom? 18:48 <@brimstone> someone say british telecom? 18:49 <@sasquatc4> yea, he's british telecom's vocalist 18:49 < ware> this torrent is blowin 18:49 < ware> sasquatc4: you got a direct dl for circles? 18:49 < ware> or wanna upload it 18:49 <@brimstone> ware: google! 18:49 <@sasquatc4> i probably got it on here somewhere 18:50 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 18:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 18:51 <@sasquatc4> or not, i know its on my mp3 player but cant find it on here 18:53 < ware> brimstone: The requested URL /mp3s/03 - Soul Coughing - Circles.mp3 was not found on this server. 18:54 <@tcstool> What's up Ware? 18:54 < ware> notta man 18:54 < ware> i was gonna see if you wanted to goto lunch yesterday but yall left quick 18:54 <@sdodson> i wonder if there's a godhatespirates site like the godhatesfags site 18:54 <@tcstool> Yeah, we were busy stealing info from Neild on a customer we took from you guys 18:54 <@tcstool> Had to get in and out in a hurry 18:55 < ware> werd 18:55 <@tcstool> But definitely when you're down call me up 18:58 <+scort> eth2: Monitor mode support is buggy in this firmware, not enabling 18:58 <+scort> can i has orinoco firmware plz? 18:58 < ware> i was out there today and yesterday 18:58 < ware> too much damn driving 18:59 < ware> im about to ask for a raise for all the overtime and project shit we're doing 18:59 <@tcstool> Yeah Neild said the new guy isn't much better 18:59 < ware> eh, its only been a week 18:59 < ware> i think hes better than shelb so far 18:59 < ware> lol 18:59 <@tcstool> Neild said he already told everybody they have to work 2 extra hours every dya 18:59 < ware> he said if the pm's dont get done that we'll need to stay over and do em 19:00 <@tcstool> heh 19:00 < ware> but those are just timeslot fillers anyways 19:00 < ware> rofl 19:00 <@tcstool> Yeah, no kidding 19:00 <@tcstool> glorified admin time 19:00 <@tcstool> I'd be telling him I'll do them from the house 19:01 <@tcstool> No reason to stay at the office and do that shit 19:02 <@sdodson> wait, is ware the best they've got? 19:03 <@sdodson> dooooooome! 19:03 <@sdodson> doooooomed! 19:03 <@tcstool> ware is BY FAR the best they've got 19:04 <@sdodson> so how long until you recruit ware for you place? 19:05 <@tcstool> heh 19:05 <@tcstool> we're looking for a man in Nashville 19:08 <@sdodson> Isn't ware in nashville? but i hear rumors he's not infact a man. 19:09 < ware> haha 19:10 < ware> man if the situation is right ill go whereever 19:10 < ware> that gig in ashevale was just too far 19:10 <@sdodson> So Raleigh is too far? 19:14 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 19:14 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 19:14 <@dc0de> ok, that was a crappy ride home... 6 different accident scenes, one was brutal. 19:24 * coil installs madwifi 19:25 < ware> sdodson: depends on the situation 19:26 <@sdodson> everyone in atlanta should ride the bus once a week 19:30 <@brimstone> that's arcane! 19:33 <@sdodson> "So we do a very good job for Windows virtualization. Not all Xen implementations do, by the way - we regard that as proprietary value add." Good thing proprietary value add is entering into xen... 19:36 <@tzanger> sdodson: where's that from? 19:39 -!- freakn_ [i=freakn@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #se2600 19:39 -!- freakn [i=freakn@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:42 <@sdodson> http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/02/20/a-few-thoughts-on-xen/ the article isn't very good, but it's got comment from the CTO from XenSource 19:42 <@tzanger> hm 19:42 <@brimstone> sdodson: xen or vmware? 19:44 <@sdodson> brimstone: what are you asking? 19:45 <@brimstone> well, we use xen a lot at work, and now my boss says "well, the swdev guys use vmware, so we should use vmware too" 19:45 <@brimstone> he's reasoning is that it's better if more people run the same thing so they can get help if they need it 19:45 <@tzanger> heh 19:46 <@brimstone> my argument is that we've not had to get help for xen in the past 2 years, why in the future? 19:46 <@brimstone> also, xen's full cli interface makes it super easy to work with through ssh on anything for hardware 19:46 <@brimstone> but with vmware you need to have their little app thing running right? 19:46 <@tzanger> from the XenSource CTO's comments it sounds like the closed XenSource has some "proprietary value-add" in the sense that they can route around windows implementation idiocy to give better performance 19:47 <@brimstone> a co-worker says that the core of xen maybe better, but the management tools (p2v, etc) of vmware is worth it alone 19:47 <@brimstone> i say that p2v is stupid you wouldn't do physical 2 physical migrations 19:49 <@brimstone> what say you sdodson, tzanger? vmware or xen? 19:49 <@tzanger> I use xen, have for quite some time 19:49 <@brimstone> why not vmware? 19:49 <@tzanger> I'm by no means an expert and all I've been using it for is multiple linux instances 19:49 <@tzanger> and in that case, I should be running vserver :-) 19:50 -!- cerkit [i=cerkit@point1.infophobia.net] has joined #se2600 19:50 <@tzanger> I've used vmware, and it's cute, but it's too "mousey" for me... I want a goddamned server not a WIMP interface 19:50 <@tzanger> proprietary everything with vmware is also not my cup of tea 19:50 <@brimstone> that's what i said, it's all point and clicky 19:50 <@tzanger> yeah you can get the free player but I want the source 19:50 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:50 <@brimstone> you can get the free server too 19:50 <@tzanger> not that I do anything with it :-) 19:50 <@brimstone> my boss countered with "point and click isn't always bad" 19:50 <@tzanger> I dunno, I don't think I'd ever buy xen. my needs for it just are not that great 19:51 <@tzanger> I don't want closed source *anything* on my servers 19:51 <@tzanger> that automatically precludes vmware 19:51 <@tzanger> precludes, excludes? probably the latter 19:51 <@tzanger> I never liked how vmware felt 19:51 <@tzanger> I haven't used it for a LONG time now though 19:51 < cerkit> tzanger: you also don't need automatically in that statement, but, its cool. 19:51 <@tzanger> so my feelings about it are long in the tooth 19:52 <@tzanger> I haven't yet done it, but having live migration is something I'd like to try 19:52 <@tzanger> although I don't *need* it for anything 19:53 <@tzanger> I'd like to run xen on my laptop here but no vmx and they only reason I'd use xen over vdesktop/vserver/whatever is to run win2k to use win32-only apps 19:53 <@tzanger> although I guess I could buy a copy of xen to do that 19:53 <@brimstone> vmware? 19:53 <+MxZBot> vmware is too pricey for me 19:53 < cerkit> tzanger: CCaan't you just use MS Virtual PC 2007 for that? 19:54 <@tzanger> cerkit: I run linux on the laptop, not windows as my primary os 19:54 < cerkit> Or does that not support win2k 19:54 <@tzanger> I couldn't stand to run windows primarily 19:54 < cerkit> tzanger: I can dig it. 19:54 <@brimstone> or wine? 19:54 < cerkit> yeah, wine. 19:54 < cerkit> i always forget about lil' ole' wine. 19:55 <@tzanger> I've *never* gotten wine to run what I want with any kind of reliability 19:56 < cerkit> You could always wait 3-5 years, for Microsoft's Linux distribution :) 19:56 <@tzanger> heh 19:56 <+coil> no 19:56 < cerkit> it exists... 19:57 < cerkit> its codename is Wronghorn. 19:57 <+coil> oh jeeze 19:57 <@tzanger> heh 19:57 <@tzanger> lt. einhorn 19:57 < cerkit> coil: relax, you're not paying for jokes... as bad as they are. Just the bandwidth. 19:58 < cerkit> For better IRC content, I recommend bash.org 19:59 <+coil> ping -f cerkit lol 19:59 < cerkit> Stop lathering me up with all that love. 19:59 < cerkit> I'll get a big head. 20:04 <@tzanger> what a fucking pissing contest 20:04 <@tzanger> that blog had next to zero info in it 20:04 <@tzanger> (as I think is required by law) 20:07 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 20:08 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:21 -!- LastChild [n=williscj@A041134.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #se2600 20:26 <@brimstone> anyone know how to give awk 2 different chars as field seperaters? 20:26 <@brimstone> like split on : or [:space:] 20:37 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 20:59 -!- Pr0nStrGeek [n=bleh@66.199.31.1] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:59 -!- Pr0nStrGeek_Work [n=bleh@66.199.31.1] has joined #se2600 21:18 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 21:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 21:21 -!- Shadow_Phone [i=shadow40@titan.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:26 * sdodson looks like he missed a bit of xen vmware talk here while playing lotro 21:26 <@brimstone> yup 21:26 <@brimstone> you can still through in your $0.03 21:27 <@sdodson> I follow Scott's blog and respect him, but his post is a bit trolly. But the Citrix guys miss the ball. 21:27 <@sdodson> Atleast the first one, I've not read the SE's version of War and Peace 21:27 <@sdodson> brimstone: My $0.03 is that I'm the coolest motherfucker around! 21:27 * brimstone takes away sdodson's sense 21:27 <@brimstone> and his cents 21:27 <@brimstone> and his scents 21:28 <@brimstone> you don't get none of 'em 21:28 <@sdodson> phew, no more need to buy deodorant! 21:28 <@brimstone> you! 21:28 <@brimstone> stay in NC 21:32 <@sdodson> http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Abuse-Rollercoaster-Tycoon-3-Massacre-7017249 21:32 <@sdodson> I hear NC has more hogs than humans. 21:41 <@dc0de> sdodson, isn't that the truth. 21:42 <@dc0de> saw that on Discovery the other night. 21:43 <@someninjamaster> sdodson: i got a good chuckle out of that video 21:49 <@dc0de> that was a good video 21:56 <@someninjamaster> holy shit check out g4 21:57 <@someninjamaster> this guy on cops looks like tom 21:57 <@dc0de> I'm watching truTV 21:58 <@dc0de> someninjamaster, that's not tom... that guy is way too dirty 21:58 <@someninjamaster> i know 21:58 <@someninjamaster> but he looks like him 21:58 <@someninjamaster> and sorta talks like him 21:58 <@dc0de> frightening... 21:59 <@dc0de> wtf is that banner? live chat on g4? 21:59 <@brimstone> man, they were doing that back in the day too 21:59 <@brimstone> back when i still had a tv and cable 22:00 <@someninjamaster> dc0de its really really stupid 22:00 <@dc0de> yeah 22:00 <@someninjamaster> if dagmar could get a reliable one working i wouldnt see an issue with trying it at phreaknic 22:03 <@brimstone> oh/ 22:03 <@brimstone> ? 22:03 <@brimstone> cuz it doesn't seem that hard to do 22:03 <@brimstone> just dump what's in here to the screen ^_^ 22:14 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:22 -!- root_____ [n=root@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 22:22 -!- root_____ [n=root@cpe-67-9-97-92.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Client Quit] 22:24 <@brimstone> lol, root___ root__ root_ and root were taken... 22:25 <+scort> lol 22:46 <@dasunt> But is 'Administrator'? 22:52 <@brimstone> Ding frys are done! 22:54 <@sdodson> brimstone makes fries? 22:54 * brimstone pokes sdodson with his tablet pen 22:55 <@brimstone> i love how load on this laptop is ~0.03 22:55 <@brimstone> my old mac liked to be ~0.7 22:55 <@dasunt> WTF is /etc/libao.conf? 22:56 <@brimstone> Libao is a cross platform audio output library. It supports 22:56 <@brimstone> Alsa, aRts, ESD, OSS, Pulse, and several others. 22:57 <@dasunt> <_< 22:57 <@dasunt> So what does this mean: default_driver=alsa09 22:57 <@sdodson> ao can be pronounced like "owww" as in "ouch" 22:57 <@brimstone> like this!? 22:57 * brimstone jabs sdodson 22:58 <@sdodson> man 5 libao.conf 22:58 <@sdodson> AO!!!!! 23:01 <@dasunt> Ahm, I see. 23:13 <@dasunt> I'm kind of tempted to use OSS v4 as a sound system. 23:18 <@sdodson> dasunt: man you live dangerously 23:20 <@dasunt> Alsa is managing to occasionally lock up my system. 23:20 <@timoguin> just ordered a new guitar. =) 23:21 <@sdodson> timoguin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x74rvGzfWYE ? 23:30 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:39 <@dasunt> Gah. 23:39 <@dasunt> Anxiety. 23:40 <@ShadowHntr> evening 23:47 -!- dc0de [n=dc0de@c-76-97-62-119.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 23:48 <@Catonic> hey dc0de 23:48 <@Catonic> why are you working so long? 23:48 <@dasunt> GAWD. 23:49 <+coil> hey dasunt. 23:49 <+coil> im drinking creamsicles 23:49 <@Catonic> dasunt: ellucidate 23:52 <@dasunt> Catonic: Just doing more legal paperwork I should have had done awhile back. 23:53 <@Catonic> well... 23:53 <@Catonic> suck it up 23:53 <+coil> dasunt: drink some liquor 23:55 <@someninjamaster> dasunt does do some 23:55 <@someninjamaster> when he drinks he finishes a few bottles 23:56 <+coil> that's unhealthy 23:56 <@dasunt> What? 23:56 <@dasunt> My life is unhealthy. 23:56 <+coil> dasunt: drinking is badl. 23:57 <@dasunt> There are worse alternatives. --- Log closed Fri Feb 22 00:00:08 2008