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00:06 <@ShadowHntr> don't have access to my music library right now :(
00:06 <@ShadowHntr> actually i'm waiting for all my shit from amazon to show up
00:07 <@ShadowHntr> i ordered about 75 bucks worth of books
00:07 <@ShadowHntr> including textbooks
00:07 <@ShadowHntr> and cookbooks
00:08 <@sdodson> Anyone going to be at OZ that can do thawte WOT notarizations?
00:11 <@dasunt> Did you select the long-amazone-float, er, free shipping?
00:13 <@sdodson> teh what?
00:14 <@ShadowHntr> dasunt: standard shipping
00:14 <@ShadowHntr> i can do CACERT authentication
00:14 <@ShadowHntr> but not going to OZ
00:15 < ware> seeeeeeeeeeeeetonnnnnnnnecd
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00:20 <@sdodson> ware: wtf?
00:41 <@ShadowHntr> damn that's an interesting drive to Mt. Juliet
00:41 <@ShadowHntr> from LaVergne
00:41 <@ShadowHntr> closest shared branching credit union open on saturdays :P
00:53 <@Catonic> oh fuck
00:53 <@Catonic> who let cerkit back in?
00:54 <@sdodson> I don't believe he was banned.
00:55 <@Catonic> that.... was obviously a short-coming on the part of channel management
00:57 <@someninjamaster> we all just socialy ban him
00:58 <@Dagmar> If you think cerkit should be banned, then WTF do you tolerate sdodson?
00:58 <@Catonic> Dagmar: I'm still wondering why I am tolerated.
00:58 <@Dagmar> Well, there you go then.
01:00 <@Catonic> On the whole, I think I've done a lot more to incide trouble in this channel than sdodson ever has.
01:00 <@Catonic> Though, on my own biased scale, not as much as cerkit
01:03 <@Catonic> meh
01:03 <@Catonic> I was hoping for a rebuttal to my argument; I guess it stands.
01:04 <@someninjamaster> haha best adult swim quote
01:04 <@sdodson> Ya, you suck, I rock. :)
01:04 <@someninjamaster> im not fred flintstone but im going to make your bed rock
01:04 <@Catonic> NICE
01:04 <@dasunt> Catonic: lets start fires.
01:05 <@Catonic> dasunt: im not in a burn the city down mood
01:05 <@Catonic> I did what I came to do.
01:05 <@sdodson> any prefered apps to do screencasts from windows?
01:05 <@sdodson> fraps seems limited to things that use DX
01:06 <@dasunt> Catonic: :(
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: the gimp after hitting print screen
01:08 <@sdodson> I'm looking for video.
01:09 <@sdodson> http://bash.org/?841435
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01:21 < JimShoe> hey wontonjoe i sold my iPhone a few months back
01:23 < JimShoe> http://www.markfiore.com/?phpMyAdmin=7aTx1mD0FvhOPGcsUo36-OZMqo4
01:28 <@wontonjoe> ah you suck
01:30 < JimShoe> sorry man, i actually made a little cash on it
01:30 <@dasunt> Shit, drunk.
01:30 <@dasunt> How did that happen?
01:30 <@wontonjoe> cool
01:30 <@Catonic> I have the shittiest non-pimp cell phone on the planet
01:30 <@wontonjoe> nah i dont need one anyway
01:30 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: you felt like being pliable in my hands
01:30 <@wontonjoe> i really should wait till verizon gets it, whenever their att contract is up
01:30 <@wontonjoe> i absolutely hate my job
01:30 <@Catonic> yet in that cell phone, is one minute, thirty seconds of NIN performing 'Hurt' on 10/31/2005.
01:31 <@wontonjoe> ive got a razr, a chocolate, a samsung i730 and those are just my verizon phones
01:31 <@Catonic> s/2005/2003/
01:32 <@wontonjoe> you should copy that video to a peecee
01:32  * Catonic digs around
01:32 <@Catonic> no, I was right the first time
01:32 <@Catonic> Mon Oct 31 2005 7:30 pm
01:32 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Sorry, nope, I'm pretty hetero.
01:33 <@dasunt> Catonic: I have the Johnny Cash cover of that song.
01:34 <@Catonic> something about hearing it with 20,000 of your closest friends at 100,000 watts.
01:34 <@wontonjoe> ya for cash at his age the song holds a meaning, at that age you are at the end and everyone has gone or is going
01:35 <@wontonjoe> and the fact he was singing about june
01:35 <@Catonic> we've already discussed cash
01:36 <@wontonjoe> who is this we, do you have a mouse in your pocket!
01:37 <@dasunt> Cash rocks.
01:37 <@Catonic> what an odd combination
01:37 <@Catonic> nin, hurt, followed by rem, everybody hurts
01:38 <@wontonjoe> yes but now im breaking out my ben folds five collection
01:38 <@Catonic> I'll skip. too depressing
01:38 <@dasunt> wontonjoe: I respected you once.  :p
01:38 <@dasunt> Not that I'm one to talk, I'm listening to Trixter right now, if you rememvber them.
01:38 <@Catonic> dasunt: and once you stopped respecting him, the sex got better? :-p
01:39 <@dasunt> Sex can be better if you are slightly self centered.
01:40 <@Catonic> slightly?
01:40 <@dasunt> The give & take is important.
01:41 <@wontonjoe> i opt out
01:41 <@wontonjoe> i also cant get to fucking tor and my ssh tunnel is broken
01:41 <@dasunt> I'm celibate for a year.
01:41 <@wontonjoe> and tor is blocked
01:41 <@dasunt> It has advantages and disadvantages.
01:43 <@Catonic> dasunt: stop, now, before I fly to minnesota and drag your ass kicking and screaming to the nearest hooker.
01:43 <@Catonic> and on that note...
01:44 <@Catonic> I have reached the end of my consciousness
01:44 <@Catonic> night
01:45 <@dasunt> Catonic: Seriously, there's something to be said for celibacy/
01:47 <@wontonjoe> a lap dance is always better when the stripper is crying
01:49 <@dasunt> Not for me./
01:49 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycIjt-ykWRo
01:50 <@wontonjoe> sdodson, do i still have a shell on your box?
01:51 <@sdodson> uid=502(wontonjoe) gid=502(wontonjoe) groups=502(wontonjoe) context=user_u:system_r:unconfined_t
01:51 <@dasunt> wontonjoe: If it is a certain 2.6.x kernel series, you may have root on his box.  :p
01:51 <@sdodson> zomg dasunt hax mi!
01:51 <@dasunt> I R a hacker.
01:52 <@wontonjoe> sweet now if i can remember the pass....
01:52 <@dasunt> Btw, some random IRCer accused me of being a haxor.
01:52 <@dasunt> I LoLed.
01:52 <@dasunt> Then I haxored his gibson.
01:53 <@sdodson> 2.6.23.15
01:56 <@wontonjoe> sdodson, can you possibly reset my pass?
01:56 <@sdodson> uh ok
01:57 <@dasunt> Can I summon down the fire?
01:58 <@sdodson> wontonjoe: perhaps a public key would be easier to remember?
01:58 <@wontonjoe> ya
01:58 <@wontonjoe> probly
01:59 <@wontonjoe> im just using it to get a tunnel past these damn blocks
01:59 <@sdodson> Sweet, I'm glad to be party to you getting fired.
01:59 <@wontonjoe> lol
01:59 <@wontonjoe> ive been doing this for a long time
02:00 <@wontonjoe> i could just unblock it, but our system blocks it the next day, its not for us, we are a filtered internet service
02:00 <@wontonjoe> so they want us to see how it works
02:00 <@wontonjoe> its crap
02:02 <@dasunt> Mille anni passi sunt.
02:18 <@sdodson> hey uhhhhh wontonjoe, do me a favor
02:18 <@sdodson> next time i send you your password over irc, sign in immediately and change it, kthnx
02:28 <@dasunt> Kill it all.
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03:03  * dasunt burns a bridge.
03:10 <@dasunt> Fuck, it is snowing again.
03:11 <@Dagmar> where?
03:11 <@Dagmar> It's supposed to snow here tomorrow, but it ain't goin' to tonight.
03:12 <@Dagmar> It's barely even cold outside.
03:12 <@dasunt> Minneapolis.
03:12 <@dasunt> I'm more concerned about burning bridges though.
03:12 <@dasunt> Think I just utterly pissed someone off.
03:13 <@Dagmar> Ah fuck 'em
03:13 <@dasunt> I think I may.
03:13 <@Dagmar> w00t!
03:13 <@dasunt> Y'know, I realize that I'm a white male, and that has given me, statiscally, certain advantages.
03:13 <@dasunt> But I grew up in a poor area.
03:13 <@dasunt> Dirt poor.
03:14 <@dasunt> I've known several men who committed suicide.
03:14 <@dasunt> Several who are probably so mentally ill that they may not have any chance at a normal life.
03:15 <@dasunt> And it severely pisses me off when I point this out and someone tells me that all white men are better off.
03:15 <@dasunt> It is an over simplification of the problem.
03:16  * dasunt ends that rant prematurely.
03:27 <@Dagmar> Just call them a stupid racist and be done with it
03:45 <@dasunt> Oh no, I'm a racist.
03:45 <@dasunt> 'Cause I seem to think that being white isn't the end all and be all of existance.
03:45 <@Dagmar> No, that just sounds realist to me.
03:45 <@dasunt> Dagmar: The patriarchy has gotten to you as well.  :(
03:47 <@dasunt> Oh, and I'm naive because I think that saying everything is due to gender/race is oversimplifying the issue.
03:47 <@dasunt> gah.
03:47 <@dasunt> This shouldn't piss me off like it does.
03:47 <@dasunt> I should just write people off.
03:59 <@Dagmar> You should.
03:59 <@Dagmar> I do.
03:59 <@Dagmar> I have NO problem calling people racist and getting on with it.
04:06 <@dasunt> Yah, but I'm fucked up.
04:11 <@Dagmar> Okay, so that's just more incentive to take it out on other people by throwing their racism back at them by calling them racist.
04:14 <@dasunt> I understand that non-white, non-males tend to get the short end of the stick.
04:14 <@dasunt> But Jesus.
04:14 <@dasunt> Men aren't utterly stellar either.
04:14 <@dasunt> Meh.
04:14 <@dasunt> Fuck.
04:14 <@dasunt> Don't care.
04:14 <@dasunt> *takes drugs*
04:44 <@Dagmar> Yes.
05:04 <@dasunt> http://www.farkitrol.com/
06:46 <@Catonic> morning
06:57 <@wontonjoe> i hate
06:57 <@wontonjoe> my
06:57 <@wontonjoe> job
07:04 <@Catonic> lol
07:11 <@wontonjoe> lol k tx
07:16 <@Catonic> mmm salad for breakfast
07:36 <@Catonic> I'm gonna start a band. I'm gonna call it "Soy Cheese"
07:39 <@wontonjoe> im gonna find a neuce, imma call it work
07:39 <@wontonjoe> damnit i missed shmoo con AGAIN
07:42 <@Catonic> lol
08:13 <@Catonic> amp's in the trunk and I got more junk than a pawn shop
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08:49 < dc0de> mr0nin all
08:49 < dc0de> Dagmar ping
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08:58  * shadowmoss pokes Catonic 
08:58  * dc0de hugs shadowmoss 
08:59  * shadowmoss hugs dc0de  back and gives him a big smooch
08:59 <@dc0de> you still in ATL?
08:59 <@shadowmoss> nope
08:59 <@shadowmoss> I was trashed from stress most of the time I was there, so stayed low
08:59 <@shadowmoss> sorry
08:59 <@shadowmoss> this job is stressful
08:59 <@dc0de> sorry, was supposed to go to dinner or something... but been busy as a one legged man in an ass kickin' contest.
09:00  * shadowmoss covers her ass
09:01 <@dc0de> I told my CEO and President yesterday that my 2008 new years resolution was to call "Bullshit" wherever I saw it in the Company...
09:01 <@dc0de> They both have agreed it's the best thing to do...
09:01 <@shadowmoss> taking on a new full-time responsibility?
09:01 <@dc0de> pretty much...
09:01 <@shadowmoss> :)
09:01 <@shadowmoss> my job looks like it's only gonna be good through Oct
09:02 <@shadowmoss> I see the signs of the contract ending, despite assurances that 'there is more headed our way when this ends...'
09:02 <@shadowmoss> two more of the main managers (including my own) left Friday
09:02 <@dc0de> since we just had one asshat single-handedly drive our professional services group into the ground from 80,000 feet, at Mach 3+.
09:03 <@shadowmoss> yeah, one person can hinder a department full of competent folks
09:03 <@dc0de> worst part? he was client facing
09:03 <@brimstone> or a whole company, if wedged in the right political door...
09:03  * shadowmoss runs to brimstone and gives him a big hug, then dunks him into the bit bucket
09:04  * brimstone springs back out of the buck and tackles shadowmoss
09:04 <@shadowmoss> woot!
09:04 <@dc0de> the best part? I told my boss, the president and ceo that this was EXACTLY what would happen if they let this asshat run the ProServe group.  Back in September.
09:04 <@brimstone> fun day friday?
09:04 <@shadowmoss> well, he actually told us at the very end of the day his last day is 1 March
09:05 <@shadowmoss> so, not sure how it will all untangle
09:05 <@brimstone> fun how that works eh?
09:05 <@shadowmoss> the main boss left 3 months ago for a new contract, and little by little his main people are following him
09:05 <@brimstone> the new boss over here is trying to pull people from his last job over
09:05 <@dc0de> always happens.
09:05 <@brimstone> and it's only going to end in failure
09:06 <@shadowmoss> I don't always get along with my manager, so it may be good (short term) that he's gone
09:06 <@shadowmoss> I don't think I'm one who will be invited over to the new contract in Oct.  Oh, well.
09:06 <@Dagmar> OMG SEXISM!
09:06  * shadowmoss perks up
09:07 <@shadowmoss> did you say SEX Dag?
09:07 <@Dagmar> No.
09:07 <@shadowmoss> sigh
09:07 <@dc0de> Dagmar, did you get my PM?
09:07 <@dc0de> shadowmoss, so are you saying you haven't had sex with anyone at work?
09:08 <@shadowmoss> dc0de: I didn't say that, but I haven't
09:08 <@shadowmoss> although, there is one guy I'd jump on in a heartbeat, but he's not only married, but one of my bosses
09:08 <@dc0de> shadowmoss, that is probably for the best... :P
09:08  * shadowmoss sighs again
09:09 <@Dagmar> Ah. now I've gotten the privmsg
09:09 <@Dagmar> What was your kernel questions?
09:09 <@dc0de> this may be a stupid one... ( I know... I know...)
09:09 <@dc0de> can I upgrade to a 64bit kernel without reloading all my shit?
09:09 <@brimstone> from a 32 one?
09:10 <@dc0de> yes
09:10 <@brimstone> if your 64 bit kernel is allowed to run 32bit programs (most are)
09:10 <@dc0de> awesome....:)
09:10 <@dc0de> any good how-to's that you can point me to? (Ubuntu)
09:10 <@brimstone> a 64 kernel and 32bit userland aren't unheard of
09:11 <@brimstone> Ubuntu? stick with what's in apt
09:11 <@brimstone> or, build from sauce
09:11 <@shadowmoss> Dagmar: you got the weather map up (you at work?)
09:11 <@brimstone> why do you think you need a 64bit kernel dc0de?
09:11 <@dc0de> brimstone, to access all of the memory on this laptop
09:11 <@shadowmoss> brimstone: because it's there
09:11 <@dc0de> 4Gb
09:12 <@brimstone> brimstone: why not?
09:12 <@Dagmar> shadowmoss: I know rain is here
09:12 <@Dagmar> Anything special I should know about htat?
09:12 <@Dagmar> dc0de: Two things
09:12 <@shadowmoss> I'm wondering how long it's supposed to last
09:12 <@brimstone> dc0de: you can root around on the mirror, download the .debs for amd64 seperate and install them manually
09:12 <@Dagmar> 1. Having a wholly 64-bit kernel isn't going to do anything useful for you
09:12 <@shadowmoss> and, how soon the temp is supposed to drop into the basement
09:12 <@brimstone> the kernel isn't something you want changing around automatically, so that should be ok
09:13 <@Dagmar> 2. If you're using a 32-bit OS, all you should care about is telling the kernel EXACTLY what type of CPU you have.
09:13 <@Dagmar> ...meaning it's okay to tell it you have an Athlon64 or whatever, even if you're using a 32-bit distro.
09:13 <@dc0de> Dagmar, I can't access all of the memory that I have in 32bit world.
09:13 <@Dagmar> How much RAM is this?
09:13 <@dc0de> 4Gb
09:13 <@Dagmar> You need to flip the HIGHMEM4G switch then
09:14 <@dc0de> ahh, in my 32bit kernel?
09:14 <@Dagmar> Hit / in menuconfig and type HIGHMEM and it'll tell you where to set thte token
09:14 <@Dagmar> Yeah
09:14 <@dc0de> hold pls
09:14 <@dc0de> narf.
09:14 <@Dagmar> Anything over 1Gb of RAM pretty much screws up now if you don't flip that bit on
09:14 <@Dagmar> heh
09:14 <@dc0de> I don't have the kernel tools installed.
09:14 <@Dagmar> I had the same issue when I went to 2Gb of RAM
09:14 <@dc0de> fack
09:14 <@Dagmar> Meh you have /proc/config.gz, right?
09:15 <@brimstone> i don't on my ubuntu 32 kernel :(
09:15 <@dc0de> nope
09:15 <@Dagmar> Oh that's right.
09:15 <@Dagmar> That's because they're ASSHOLES about that
09:15 <@brimstone> why don't they use /proc/config anymore?
09:15 <@Dagmar> Umm.. try `modprobe configfs`
09:15 <@Dagmar> I think that's it's name as a module
09:15 <@brimstone> ah, this is like asking grandpa about the nazis
09:16  * shadowmoss blows everyone a kiss and wanders out of the room
09:16 <@Dagmar> It *might* have been compiled as a module, which is silly, but just the sae
09:16 <@dc0de> it's there.
09:16 <@dc0de> as a module
09:16 <@Dagmar> Okay, so that is your kernel's config.
09:17 <@dc0de> /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/kernel/fs/configfs/configfs.ko ??
09:17 <@dc0de> that's my config?
09:17 <@Dagmar> If you untar the same version of the source into /usr/src (or a newer version, doesn't much matter) and zcat /proc/config.gz > .config in htere, you can then use `make oldconfig` to basically slurp up the old config into the new kernel source
09:17 <@Dagmar> No, that's a module that makes /proc/config.gz exist
09:17 <@dc0de> ok
09:17 <@Dagmar> Modprobe it and you should instantly have /proc/config.gz
09:17 <@dc0de> ok
09:17 <@brimstone> Dagmar: i don't get a /proc/config.gz when i modprobe it...
09:18 <@Dagmar> You're familiar with building a new kernel from source, right?
09:18 <@Dagmar> Damnit
09:18 <@Dagmar> Fucking ubuntu
09:18 <@dc0de> Dagmar, it's been a while... I'm RTFM'ing it again now....
09:18 <@dc0de> let me go through the destructions, and I'll get w/you later..?
09:18 <@Dagmar> Ya might wanna ask if they've made some boot-time grub argument that flips it
09:18 <@Dagmar> I was under the impression it was something you had to compile in tho
09:19 <@dc0de> I have done it before, but it's been a while. (Like a year.)
09:19 <@dc0de> I'll check.
09:19 <@dc0de> I just needed to know if I needed to go 64, or what... for the 4GB.
09:19 <@dc0de> and for that, you've helped greatly.
09:20 <@Dagmar> Yeah, you just need to set HIGHMEM4G on and it'll be perfect.
09:20 <@dc0de> sweet.
09:20 <@Dagmar> Is ther esomething other than rain on the radar I should be seeing?
09:27 <@sdodson> <@brimstone> ah, this is like asking grandpa about the nazis  <---- pure gold
09:27 <@dc0de> sdodson, that's funny, in any context
09:28 <@sdodson> I'm sure ubuntu provides high mem kernels. It'd be cosmicly retarded not to.
09:29 <@sdodson> and they don't provide configs in your boot directory?
09:29  * Catonic resumes behind the monitor-state\
09:30 <@brimstone> there's the config!
09:30  * brimstone checks it
09:30 <@sdodson> [sdodson@home ~]$ grep CONFIG_HIGHMEM /boot/config-2.6.23.15-80.fc7
09:30 <@sdodson> CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
09:30 <@sdodson> # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set
09:30 <@sdodson> CONFIG_HIGHMEM=y
09:30 <@brimstone> dc0de: CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y
09:30 <@brimstone> should be good
09:30 <@brimstone> dc0de: what does free -m tell you?
09:31 <@Catonic> lol... "You cannot delete free space."
09:31 <@dc0de> brimstone, where is that?
09:31 <@brimstone> dc0de: in /boot
09:31 <@brimstone> there should be a config file with your kernel version in it's filename
09:31 <@brimstone> my 2.6.22-14-generic has it
09:32 <@sdodson> 64GB requires PAE which is a dirty hack
09:32 <@dc0de> right
09:32 <@dc0de> sdodson, we're talking about 4GB on a laptop
09:32 <@dc0de> only seeing 3GB
09:32 <@sdodson> Right.
09:32 <@sdodson> bios problem
09:32 <@sdodson> sux2bu
09:32 <@dc0de> not a bios problem
09:32 <@dc0de> sees it when I boot mandriva from a usb stick
09:33 <@sdodson> oh, then get a better OS
09:33 <@brimstone> sdodson: don't hate
09:33  * sdodson hates
09:33 <@brimstone> we'll make you change grandpa's teeth
09:34 <@sdodson> bighead> i had fedora going, but it wasn't doing what i wanted
09:34 <@sdodson> @sdodson> You clearly wanted the wrong things!
09:34 <@sdodson> bighead> yes.  what i wanted was all half-supported and shimmied crap
09:34 <@sdodson> @sdodson> That's how you ended up with ubuntu!
09:34 <@Catonic> unF.
09:34 <@Catonic> I have a 700MHz pc with 6GB of RAM
09:34 <@sdodson> I have deeznutz
09:34 <@Catonic> let me say that again: uNF
09:34 <@dc0de> brimstone, 3034 total
09:34 <@sdodson> I have a machine with 64cores and 256GB of ram
09:35 <@sdodson> when I say I, I mean I know someone who does
09:35 <@Catonic> dear lord.
09:35 <@sdodson> And that's only 2GB dimms, so you should easilly be able to bump that to 512GB config.
09:36 <@Catonic> that's like two dual-processor T2000s.
09:36 <@sdodson> I think 8GB dimms are dropping this summer too, yay.
09:37 <@sdodson> So does your kernelc onfig have the 4GB option or not?
09:38 <@sdodson> dc0de: ^^^ anzr plz
09:38 <@brimstone> sdodson: it does
09:38 <@brimstone> we're running the same kernel
09:38 <@sdodson> I'd check for differences in the e820 maps.
09:39 <@sdodson> Boot both, past your dmesg to a pastebin.
09:39 <@brimstone> Password or swipe finger:
09:39 <@sdodson> Dagmar: why you love me so?
09:40 <@Dagmar> Harold Rudolph Deeznuts is *my* friend, not yours.
09:40 <@sdodson> Dagmar: love me long time?
09:40 <@Dagmar> MOAR!
09:41 <@sdodson> dc0de: thawte points, I can haz?
09:42 <@sdodson> Need to figure out if I'll have enough to start doing notarizations by Carolina Con.
09:42 <@sdodson> You're all coming to Carolina Con, yes? You wouldn't let me drive 15 hours to your cons without coming to mine, right?
09:43 <@dc0de> sdodson, sure...
09:44 <@dc0de> sdodson, you just need to fax me copies of two photo id's...
09:44 <@dc0de> since i've met you already.
09:44 <@dc0de> sdodson, you coming down to OZ?
09:45 <@Catonic> http://orbitaldebris.jsc.nasa.gov/reentry/recovered.html
09:47 <@Catonic> http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/carramrod/male <- lol
09:48 <@sdodson> dc0de: Ya.
09:48 <@dc0de> sdodson, we can take care of it then? cool?
09:49 <@Catonic> http://www.bustedtees.com/bt/images/BT-jerseygirls-catalog-4298.jpg <- dc0de, lol!
09:49 <@sdodson> I'm going to try to do the TTP thing, but I'd still like notarizations.
09:49 <@sdodson> dc0de: cool
09:49 <@dc0de> Catonic, someone needs to make a Tee with my favorite slogan about driving.
09:50 <@dc0de> "Full Coverage as a Weapon".
09:50 <@sdodson> That's how I'm going to die, I'm sure.
09:50 <@Catonic> I'm kinda lost on that one
09:50 <@sdodson> Orbital debris landing on me.
09:50 <@Catonic> is that a football term or military?
09:50 <@dc0de> I haz full coverage, and don't care where I drive my car... or how.
09:50 <@Dagmar> I don't get what the deal is with the ram rod thing
09:50 <@Catonic> Dagmar: Supertroopers
09:51 <@Dagmar> Still don't mean shit to me
09:51 <@Catonic> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247745/
09:51 <@Dagmar> I guess it's an inside joke from the movie?
09:51 <@sdodson> Yet another t-shirt company marketing stupid ass t-shirts.
09:51 <@Catonic> yeah, pretty much
09:51 <@Dagmar> Ah
09:51 <@Catonic> it's a really stupid part of the movie
09:52 <@sdodson> HAHA WE'RE FUNNY, LETS SELL SHIRTS THAT ARE FUNNY AND OFFENSIVE!
09:52 <@Catonic> I kinda thought that fad had died
09:53  * dc0de is going to be a tweaker, without all the meth... 
09:53 <@Dagmar> If they were serious, they'd sell a t-shirt that says "Someone buy that n****r and shut him up"
09:53 <@Catonic> wow.
09:54 <@Catonic> and I thought I was racist :-p
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09:54 <@Dagmar> Hey man, I have a talent for being offensive
09:55 <@Dagmar> I use it sparingly
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09:58 < cerkit> Dagmar: Or, "I <heart> niggers."
09:59 < cerkit> That works too.
09:59 <@Dagmar> Oooo!  Yeees.  :)
09:59 <@Dagmar> That shirt would _definitely_ be there if they were really serious about being offensive.
09:59 < cerkit> Right.
10:00 <@Dagmar> ...and if you'd like a shirt that would guarantee the wearer would be shot to death within a week, it would say "(but mexicans work cheaper)" under that.
10:00 <@Dagmar> ...with appopriate racist slang inserted where I wasn't going to type it.
10:01 <@sdodson> oh noz there's cerkit, ban ban ban ban!
10:01 <@sdodson> hi cerkit!
10:02 < cerkit> Hi.
10:02 < cerkit> sdodson: Do you want to start your egg timer?
10:03 <@sdodson> We're cooking?
10:03 < cerkit> sdodson: No, well, one and for all I think we could havevalue to see exactly how long I last.
10:04 < cerkit> For science, I mean.
10:04 <@Dagmar> BONUS POINTS FOR FEAR!!!
10:04 <@sdodson> Catonic was quick to ask for a ban last night.
10:04 <@Dagmar> The NIU shooter had an asston of tattoos, in addition to wearing all black
10:04 < cerkit> sdodson: What wasn't I banned?
10:05 < cerkit> err Why, my bad.
10:05 <@Catonic> Dagmar: I'd give that shirt five seconds in Birmingham.
10:06 <@Catonic> I wouldn't walk down the street wearing it with anything less than riot gear, a bulletproof vest, and a flak jacket.
10:06 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I'm thinking around here if I wanted to see a telephone pole just burned to the ground, I could just print that on 8x11 paper, tape it to the telephone pole, and run like hell
10:07 < cerkit> Dagmar: so, how ya been, Dag?
10:07 <@Dagmar> Still workin' at VU
10:08 < cerkit> Take much damage in all this market fun?
10:08 <@Dagmar> I took none.
10:08 < cerkit> Nice.
10:08 <@sdodson> dagmar is an investor?
10:08 <@Dagmar> In fact, I'm still kciking myself for having seen the announcement about Microsoft offering on Yahoo at 3:am and just chuckling "YEah, their stock will go up'
10:08 <@Dagmar> I should have dropped 4-5 grand on that
10:08 <@Dagmar> Fucking 48% increase
10:08 < cerkit> I did.
10:08 <@sdodson> Has it dumped yet?
10:08 < cerkit> Not 5, but 3
10:08 <@Dagmar> Nope
10:09 <@Dagmar> I got 3k poised and ready for next time now
10:09 <@sdodson> I guess it doesn't matter, it shows that big money is interested in bailing out Y!
10:09 < cerkit> Dagmar: still holding any GOOG?
10:09 <@sdodson> It'll be MSFT, News Corp, or Google will just give in and show us that they're truly hell bent on world domination.
10:10 <@Dagmar> I could care less what anyone wants of yahoo.  I just know that the moment you have "BILLIONS" and "(Any company)" and "Microsoft" in the same sentence on CNN, all the little dinky day-traders are going to drive the stock price up
10:10 < cerkit> I sold mine at 720, which I thought I'd be kicking myself over.
10:10 <@Dagmar> cerkit: I was stupid and didn't buy any stock in Google.
10:10 <@Dagmar> Too much yelling at me about insider trading warnings from the last few companies I worked for i guess
10:10 < cerkit> Dagmar: Not everyone has the dough either, when I got in aat 508, I didn't think it was cheap.
10:11 < cerkit> And its no cheaper now.
10:11 <@Dagmar> Yeah, well, I'm not rolling in such dough that I can afford to blow it all on six shares of stock
10:11 <@sdodson> Insider trading is easy to control, atleast in regard to your own employees.
10:11 < cerkit> Dagmar: were you able to catch the VMW (VMWare) wave?
10:12 <@Dagmar> cerkit: I have spent the last two years working the graveyard shift, socking money away, and working on Dropline, dude.
10:12 < cerkit> Dagmar: Thats GOOD.
10:12 <@Dagmar> Trying to make sure I've got lots of liquid capital before I start treating some of it like found money
10:12 <@Dagmar> Im finally more or less there now.
10:13 <@Catonic> Saving money? What's that?
10:13 < cerkit> Dagmar: Its good timing, in the next quarter its really bargain hunting if you invest.
10:13 <@Dagmar> That's where you put checks in the bank and don't spend the money
10:13 < cerkit> I just figurd I'd ask to stir some conversation.
10:13 <@Dagmar> Well, right now yer mainly pissin me off
10:14 <@Catonic> My beater needs more work than I can provide for it.
10:14 <@Dagmar> I know I'd be retired from this shit by now if I were a bigger risk taker
10:14 <@sdodson> VMw'are reign is over. There's going to be stiff competition in about 6 months.
10:14 < cerkit> sdodson: From who, virtual iron or whatever?
10:14 <@Dagmar> All I see going on now is *RECESSION*
10:14 <@Dagmar> ...which is another reason I'm socking away money and shifting some of it into gold, to boot.
10:15 <@Catonic> i can haz biodiesel?
10:15 <@sdodson> cerkit: MSFT, RHT mostly.  HyperV is really well hyped.
10:15 <@Dagmar> I can has GIANT PETROL MONOPOLY.
10:15 < cerkit> Dagmar: If I were you, I might consider the Euro before Gold
10:15 <@Catonic> I wonder what those old gold-plated 486s are worth now...
10:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: gold?
10:15 <@sdodson> Sun's purchase of Innotek is interesting.
10:15 < cerkit> Dagmar: Gold is being used as a kind of safety net that will get torn down quickly when the time comes.
10:16 <@Catonic> Innotrode?
10:16 <@Dagmar> I don't recall any point in history save one where gold has dropped in value suddenly
10:16 <@sdodson> Start marketing rap videos with gold teeth rather than the current trend of Platinum.
10:16 < cerkit> sdodson: well hyped is one thing.  are their products any actual good?  I mean, I'm no fanboy but, VMWare has a sizable lead on them to the market.  And from what I understand they have broader OS support.
10:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: you're thinking of 1869, when Gould cornered the market?
10:17 <@Catonic> cerkit: hypervisor
10:17 < cerkit> Catonic: Right.. ?
10:17 <@sdodson> cerkit: HyperV (or whatever) is due in a few months, the press on it seems decent.  I don't know if it's decent or not.
10:18 <@sdodson> All of these other options will need solid management platforms. And with VMWare's recent vi 3.5 fuckups it's a great time to see someone else deliver.
10:18 < cerkit> sdodson: Well, you said stiff competition, I thought perhaps that was based on something.  So, what you're really saying is, VMWare will finally have SOME competition.  hehehe.
10:18 <@Catonic> I don't know if they've changed or not, but VMWare had issues because they didn't have a true hypervisor or implemented all of the instruction in the i386.
10:18 <@Catonic> See Also: Running OS/2 on VMWare.
10:18 <@sdodson> I don't think that's a problem.
10:19 <@sdodson> Who gives a fuck about OS/2 that's going to spend money on vmware?
10:19 <@Catonic> If you're a bank with a large investment in OS/2 & IBM hardware...
10:19 < cerkit> That could have been a shorter statement: "Who gives a fuck about OS/2?"
10:19 <@sdodson> I don't think the financials are running their shit on OS/2.
10:19 <@Catonic> eComstation
10:19 <@sdodson> Financials are agile now.
10:19 < cerkit> I work with a lot of financials, I don't know one that uses OS/2.
10:20 <@sdodson> They can switch out their entire platform in 24 months or so, I don't see why they'd be tied to OS/2 at this point.
10:20 <@sdodson> Move from Solaris on Sparc to RHEL on AMD64 boxes... sure no problem
10:21 <@Dagmar> Corydon: Actually, I was thinking of a particular president effectively commandeering all gold
10:21 < cerkit> I actually don't know one using Solaris, either.
10:21 < cerkit> Its a lot of Linux & HP-UX and things.
10:21 <@sdodson> Right because they all switched a few years ago :)
10:22 < cerkit> sdodson: I know, I helped.
10:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: the price of gold dropped a huge amount in 1869, when Gould cornered the market and got out just before President Grant released gold into the market
10:22 <@Dagmar> Ah
10:22 <@sdodson> I may be exaggerating about how fas they're able to swithc but that's what the financials all care about now.
10:22 <@Dagmar> Yeah, same time period.  Gold went all screwey then
10:23 <@sdodson> If one vendor pisses them off they want to be able to switch to something else ASAP.
10:23 <@Corydon76-dig> He made a bundle on that, for actions which were later made illegal
10:23 <@Dagmar> I made almost enough to report on my taxes during that last currency change
10:23 < cerkit> Dagmar: You don't think it makes sense that as people run from the problems in the market today, into Gold, when the market begins to boom, that they will run from it, as well?
10:23 < cerkit> Thats really all I was saying.
10:23 <@Dagmar> The real bitch is at the moment i don't know of any (and I mean ANY) new companies that are really doing shit right
10:23 <@Corydon76-dig> There's a good many securities laws that are in place due to the shenanigans of Jay Gould
10:24 <@Dagmar> Most of the big risers (like Google, for example) were just hitting balls out of the park on a daily basis
10:24 <@Dagmar> I ain' seein' shit like that goin' on right now
10:24 < cerkit> Dagmar: The solar energy sector.
10:24 <@Corydon76-dig> You mean public companies, right?
10:24 <@Dagmar> cerkit: I don't intend to hang onto the gold that long, and I _seriously_ doubt it will go back _under_ it's previous value.
10:24 <@Dagmar> Precious metals are getting kinda sharp and pointy
10:24 <@Dagmar> Copper in particular.
10:25 <@Dagmar> ...but there's not enough margin there to make me happy yet.
10:25 < cerkit> Dagmar: I don't disagree, I just a lot of people are driving the value of those up, using them as safety nets.
10:25 <@sdodson> Bits don't lock companies in any more, it's the value you bring with your bits that matters.
10:25 <@Dagmar> I'm paying particular attention to theievery
10:25 <@Corydon76-dig> The danger with the precious metals is that tomorrow, some company might announce that they've found a new mine full of that metal
10:26 <@Dagmar> When people are hacksawing copper wires off poles to steal them for the copper, something's afoot there
10:26 < cerkit> Dagmar: Crack sales, most likely.
10:26 <@sdodson> copper is the new currency!
10:26 < cerkit> hahaha
10:27 <@sdodson> i wish i had that irssi plugin that puts a line where you went afk, oh well, scrolling back works i guess, this is an interesting conversation.
10:27 <@Dagmar> TI is looking good, only only as a long-term thing
10:27 <@Dagmar> I think they're finally over their "will someone please buy us so that we can get some press" phase
10:27 <@Dagmar> makin' chips for people right and left again
10:27 <@Dagmar> s/only only/but only/;
10:27 < cerkit> I'm making money with everything in non-US currencies.
10:27 <@Catonic> I have 25' feet of #4 AWG solid copper. I keep it under lock and key. Replacement at Lowe's is $1 per foot.
10:28 <@Dagmar> lol
10:28 <@Catonic> I paid $25 for a piece of #2 AWG, red, 25 feet that is installed in my car.
10:28 <@Catonic> I don't even want to think what it's worth now.
10:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: have enough yet to buy a share of Berkshire Hathaway?
10:28 <@Dagmar> People keep raiding construction sites around here
10:28 <@Dagmar> I fuckin WISH
10:29 < cerkit> Corydon76-vcch_: BRK.B's in most people's range.
10:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Can't go wrong with that stock
10:29 <@Dagmar> I could probably roll ONE damn share of that into retirement money in six months.
10:29 < cerkit> Dagmar: BRK.A?
10:29 < cerkit> or BRK.B?
10:29 <@Corydon76-dig> cerkit: yes, I know, I have a share of BRK-B
10:29 <@Catonic> $1.61 per foot.
10:29 < cerkit> A share?
10:29 < cerkit> Wow.
10:29 < cerkit> :)
10:30 < cerkit> j/k
10:30 <@Dagmar> cerkit: I couldn't say.  For much the same reason I can't tell you the relative prices of a Ferarri or a Porsche
10:30 <@Dagmar> Both are WAY out of my league
10:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, it composes more than half of my IRA
10:30 <@Catonic> Minimum order was $25 and I know I had to add stuff to it to get it there.
10:30 < cerkit> Dagmar: BRK.A's too much for me to touch at over 130k a share, but BRK.B is under 5k a share.
10:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, that's no longer true.  It's now just under half of the IRA
10:31 <@Catonic> Dagmar: so why don't you do the .dot thing any more?
10:31 <@Dagmar> cerkit: Yes, that's me not putting my tiny egg into one basket
10:31 <@Dagmar> The .dot what thing?
10:31 < cerkit> Dagmar: Thats understandable.
10:31 <@Dagmar> Honestly, I have a long history of being very stupid about investments.
10:31 < cerkit> Besides, I'd probably advise people to buy the NASDAQ or S&P index right now, before BRK.B
10:31 < cerkit> theres much more upward potential there.
10:31 <@Catonic> err..
10:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: there's also Liberty Global (LBTYA)
10:31 <@Catonic> brane fuzzy.
10:31 <@Dagmar> In Jr. High School, I got together with three of my friends, and we seriously contemplated throwing $300 apiece at a little company we liked the idea of
10:32 <@Catonic> .bomb
10:32 <@Dagmar> That company was just starting out, and we liked the idea of what "US ROBOTICS" was planning on doing.
10:32 <@Dagmar> So...
10:32 <@Dagmar> Yes, that would be a lot of fuckin' money now
10:32 < cerkit> \
10:32 < cerkit> It might be, yeah.
10:33 <@Dagmar> This was the company who made all the modems, dude.
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> "Invest in what you know"
10:33 <@Dagmar> At far less than a buck a share at the time
10:33 < cerkit> Dagmar: I know who USR is, I just don't know what they're worth today -- you said today, heh.
10:33 <@Catonic> Little company called "UDS" became Motorola UDS, then several of the guys went over to this company called "Conexant" that made DSL modems...
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> cerkit: they got bought out by 3com several years ago
10:33 < cerkit> There ya go then.
10:33 <@Dagmar> cerkit: At one point I could have taken that $300 purchase and rolled it straight into 5-6 shares of BRK_A
10:34 <@Dagmar> So yeah, I'm a little unlucky with this stuff
10:34 < cerkit> That would have been a good idea, had all that transpired.
10:34 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I decided I didn't want to risk the $300 Id' saved
10:34 < cerkit> Dagmar: So, why aren't you taking those couple hundred dollar risk now?
10:34 <@Dagmar> If I could go back in time I would slap myself hard and say "WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU GOT TO SPEND IT ON?  YOU'RE FUCKING 14!"
10:35 < cerkit> You're still young enough to take higher level risks.
10:35 <@Dagmar> cerkit: This is whhy I just moved a few grand over into my e*trade account
10:35 < cerkit> Thats good.  I like to hear that.
10:35 < cerkit> E-Trade that is.
10:35 <@Dagmar> Now I'm just trying to suss out who I need to be throwing some money at
10:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Because hindsight is 20/20.  You could just have easily invested it in a company that went nowhere
10:35 < cerkit> They've been making me money all year.
10:35 <@Dagmar> Corydon: I have yet to actually be interested in a company that did NOT shoot right up
10:36 < cerkit> I made just about $12,000 on E-Trade in the last 10 months.
10:36 <@Dagmar> This would be different if I were ever at the point of saying "Whew... glad I didn't invest in that"
10:36 <@Dagmar> _ever_
10:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LBTYA
10:36 <@Corydon76-dig> You'll like what they do
10:36 < cerkit> There was a week that just passed, where, you could about short E-Trade, every day and make a few hundred or a couple grand.
10:37 < cerkit> if you had about $2500 to play with
10:37 < cerkit> It was a good week.
10:37 <@Dagmar> What *do* they do?
10:37 < cerkit> E-Trade?
10:37 <@Dagmar> Oooohhhh
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10:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: they're an incubator for tech companies
10:38 <@Dagmar> Well, they're also apparently into telephony and cable services
10:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: at one point, they spun off Expedia.com
10:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, they have their hands in a lot of stuff
10:39 <@Dagmar> I know you couldn't pay me money to throw at any mortgage companies right now
10:39 <@Dagmar> :)
10:39 < cerkit> They also have a negative P/E
10:40 <@Dagmar> p/e?
10:40 <@Dagmar> I'm still working on the jargon
10:40 < cerkit> Dagmar: Theres a mortgage-related company that can make you a great deal of money now. Check out "CIM", Chimera
10:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: actually, right about now would be the best time to pick a winner in the mortgage market.  Their prices are about as low as they're going to get
10:40 < cerkit> Dagmar: Price to Earnings ratio.
10:40 <@Dagmar> Ah..
10:41 <@Dagmar> Negative?
10:41 < cerkit> Yes.
10:41 < cerkit> They're not making money.
10:41 < cerkit> On that near 40 dollar sticker price.
10:41 < cerkit> (a share)
10:41 <@Corydon76-dig> More specifically, they lost money in the last year
10:41 <@Dagmar> So I would want to buy them, why again?
10:41 < cerkit> hahaha
10:41 < cerkit> exactly.
10:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Buy low, sell high
10:41 <@Dagmar> OKay ther'es buying low, and there's buying stupid.
10:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Because at least one of them is going to recover...
10:42 <@Dagmar> I could buy a lot of SCO right now, for example.
10:42 <@Corydon76-dig> SCO is going private
10:42 < cerkit> Dagmar: If you're looking to get into the Internet Brands sector, sites and management companies that put up sites, like Expedia...  try "INET"
10:42 <@Dagmar> I suspect the final shoe has yet to drop on this mortgage thing
10:42 < cerkit> Dagmar: Thats all they due, they're a new IPO this year, up about 2.5 pts.
10:42 <@Dagmar> Too many companies are still passing the buck on this big hole of debts they've created.
10:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: and that's precisely why it will take a while for the price to go back up
10:43 <@Corydon76-dig> You're looking at a long term investment, by picking a winner
10:43 <@Dagmar> I'm figuring a few of them are going to get eaten by regulators
10:43 <@Dagmar> It's just a matter of which ones are the least nimble at shedding themselves of this mess
10:43 <@Corydon76-dig> So, yeah, it's not something you need to buy tomorrow, but you might start looking at which ones have the most solid footing over the next 3 months or so
10:44 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I don't think it's going to take past the modpoint of this year for the balls to have finally settled on this
10:45 <@Corydon76-dig> but that's exactly the kind of long term strategy to look for.  Find something depressed that has a good chance of recovery, that people are staying away from, only because they're staying away from that market
10:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Ever read any of Peter Lynch's books?
10:48 <@Corydon76-dig> He was the manager of the Magellan fund, when it was legendary for its strong growth
10:49 <@Corydon76-dig> One of his big bits of investment advice was that the best stocks he ever picked he learned from his kids.  What they're excited about, you pick the stocks backing those things and you have winners.
10:53 <@sdodson> BRK is interesting. All of his quarterly reports tell of the demise of the American economy.
10:54 <@sdodson> i find it funny that the us governement is worried about foreign companies owning 3com, as a threat to our national infrastructure.
10:54 <@Dagmar> If someone will make a fucking small car that they're serious about i'd invest in them
11:00 <@sdodson> Honda?
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13:53 <@Dagmar> That's not broken.  It's actually illegal syntax.
13:53 <@Dagmar> IP addresses are not mail destinations without being enclosed in square brackets (IIRC)
13:54 < scort> permit_naked_ip_address ?
14:02 <@Dagmar> You're the one using postfix.
14:02 <@Dagmar> You look it up.
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14:24 <@Dagmar> In all seriousness, I'm on the PDA, so you have GOT to have the documentation closer at hand than I do.
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14:32 <@dc0de> wheeeee
14:47 <@dc0de> what's everyone doing?
14:52 <@brimstone> bumpin' uglies with ya momma
15:12 <@dc0de> brimstone, as long as you pay her this time
15:12 <@dc0de> she needs new teeth
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17:20 <@dc0de> weeeee
17:20 <@dc0de> now i can start working on the other shit I didn't get finished this week.
17:21 <@brimstone> horray!
17:21 <@dc0de> yeah... it's a bit annoying... I'm still at the office
17:21 <@brimstone> see what ya get for vacationing?
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17:30 <@dc0de> brimstone, tell me about it...
17:30 <@dc0de> I wanna go back to the beach.
17:36 <@sdodson> Any shens at schmoo?
17:36 <@dc0de> shen?
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17:37 <@sdodson> shenanigins
17:37 <@dc0de> ahh...
17:37 <@dc0de> dunno, haven't heard anything yet...
17:37 <@sdodson> I don't know why I bother checking my blood sugars.
17:37 <@dc0de> I am guessing that everyone is still travelling, groaning, and nursing hangovers.
17:37 <@dc0de> why not?
17:38 <@sdodson> Cause it's always like 75-85 or if i've just eaten 110-120
17:38 <@dc0de> well, you should check to know that you're doing well.
18:09 <@Catonic> I'm driving a piece of shit beater broken down diesel VW Rabbit from the early 1980s.
18:09 <@Catonic> And I'm Loving It.
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19:07  * Catonic waits for witty retorts to earlier comments
19:13 <@brimstone> your mother's a witty retort!
19:13  * brimstone thumbs his knose
19:13 <@dc0de> Catonic, are you loving rabbits? as in the furry creatures?
19:13 <@dc0de> there... the lame witty retort you expected.
19:21  * dc0de is going home... the entire afternoon and evening in the office for the 2nd weekend day has gotten old.
19:21 <@dc0de> bblr
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19:28 <@Evilpig> this new DS game I got is fun.  yet annoying.  anyone seen "Professor Layton and the Curious Village"?
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19:28 <@seeblind> evening everybody
19:31 <@Catonic> feck. I can't find my soldering iron
19:45 <@Catonic> found my soldering iron
19:45  * sdodson wonders why dc0de is working so much
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20:15 <@sdodson> WTF is with the steady stream of movies which revolve around Will Ferrel in spandex?
20:16 <@brimstone> he lost a bet to ben stiller
20:16 <@sdodson> really?
20:16 <@sdodson> ok, back to knightrider!
20:17 <@brimstone> yeah, it was in the news a month or so ago
20:17  * brimstone waits on his root device
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20:37 <@Catonic> oh.. my... ghod... http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=238987859
20:38 <@Catonic> WANT
20:39 < ware> not bad at all
20:39 <@sdodson> Boxter, it's like the porche BMW Z3
20:39 < ware> whys it so cheap?
20:40 < ware> with only 60k miles
20:40 <@sdodson> That's like 40% off price of a new one?
20:42 <@Catonic> I think I'd have to convert to judiasm to drive that car.
20:42 < ware> explain
20:43 <@brimstone> belief in god
20:43 <@sdodson> Ok, more like 60% off of a brand new 2008 Boxter.
20:47 <@Catonic> take it easy... breathe deeply
20:47 <@Catonic> think miata...
20:47 <@SkyDog_> Evening all.
20:49 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: I think I can see how you got so far into debt in your 20s
20:51 <@Catonic> must have been the trophy wife's car
20:51 <@Catonic> who else puts 60k miles on a porsche in 7 years
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21:18 <@sdodson> I'll be around 70k after 7 years.
21:18 <@sdodson> not on a porsche though
21:20 < wontonjoe> kj
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21:21 <@wontonjoe> I
21:21 <@wontonjoe> Hate
21:21 <@wontonjoe> my
21:21 <@wontonjoe> job
21:21 <@wontonjoe> good evening
21:21 <@dc0de> sup all.
21:21 < remoford> howdy wonton
21:21 <@wontonjoe> hi remoford
21:21 <@wontonjoe> did you find gainful employment?
21:21 <@dc0de> wontonjoe, what's drivin you nutz?
21:22 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: did you ever get to check out ecomstation yet?
21:22 <@wontonjoe> dc0de, you name it, people getting promoted past me, burnt out dealing with customers for which i have no solution for since It wont get off their ass, etc
21:22 < remoford> wontonjoe: for awhile, finished the contract and now im back lookin
21:22 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr, no, I didn't... I've been way too busy.
21:22 <@dc0de> wontonjoe, wanna move to ATL?
21:22 <@ShadowHntr> that's cool, just remembered you asked about it
21:22 <@wontonjoe> sure dc0de
21:23 <@dc0de> wontonjoe, get me your resume
21:23 <@wontonjoe> i can fly there anytime for 45 bucks
21:23 <@wontonjoe> ill send it, ill have to rummage around for it, im also talking with apple, well whenever they get around to the interview they called me about
21:25 <@wontonjoe> what kind of work dc0de?
21:25 <@dc0de> wontonjoe, what are your skills?
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21:26 <@wontonjoe> i break stuff..... no seriously im good with setting up networks running cable, verbally confusing people etc
21:26 <@dc0de> we have several openings... from SOC analyst, Implementation Engineering, Sales Engineering, just to name a few
21:27 <@wontonjoe> uhmm, maybe i should get my degree first that stuff sounds kinda advanced
21:27 <@dc0de> the SOC job is great for Students...
21:28  * Catonic pours SkyDog_ a drink and hands him a pair of noise-cancelling headphones tuned to the sound of wontonjoe's voice
21:28 <@Catonic> dc0de: it's no use. He doesn't have any balls.
21:28 <@wontonjoe> hmm
21:28 <@wontonjoe> lol
21:29 <@wontonjoe> thats what they make ./ignore for catonic
21:32 < JimShoe> hey dc0de are you all going shooting after outerz0ne, like last year?
21:33 <@dc0de> JimShoe, it's easter sunday, all ranges are closed
21:33 <@wontonjoe> hey thats right damn
21:33 < JimShoe> wtf i thought easter was always in April..damn
21:33 <@Catonic> celebrate zombie jesus day at outerzone
21:34 <@Catonic> because after two days of drinking, you'll be seeing zombie jesus too
21:34 <@wontonjoe> hell i see zombie jesus right now
21:35 <@Catonic> hey wonton... I'm going to make the repeater ID at the same frequency as the nextel chirp
21:35 <@Catonic> I might just make it permanently distorted so it's really square wave :p
21:35 <@wontonjoe> you know its time to go when you find out the previous third shift guy had a flask with him at all times to keep sane
21:35 <@ShadowHntr> lol
21:35 <@wontonjoe> can i chirp on your network
21:36 <@ShadowHntr> wontonjoe: are you a grasshopper?
21:36 <@ShadowHntr> or a cicada?
21:36 <@wontonjoe> as the ghetto kids say "i wanna chirp"
21:36 <@ShadowHntr> heh :P
21:36 <@wontonjoe> "lemme chirp man"
21:36 <@dc0de> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/17/2043216
21:36 <@brimstone> make me chirp mahn
21:36 <@wontonjoe> i think im just burnt out, itll be a year here next month
21:36 <@dc0de> heh... that's funny, the Village People are suing Pirate Bay
21:36 <@wontonjoe> brimstone that sounded gay
21:37 <@brimstone> "D...M...C...A... I wanna get a D...M...C...A..."
21:37 <@wontonjoe> brimstone, are you on the sauce?
21:38 <@brimstone> i'm riding the worm wontonjoe
21:38 <@wontonjoe> its "RIDE THE SNAKE!" -SNL Jim carrey
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21:39 <@wontonjoe> "SCAN ME!"
21:40 <@wontonjoe> hell im so burnt out im actually trying to get fired i think, its not working
21:41 <@wontonjoe> theyre that ignorant hre
21:41 <@devemo> heh
21:42 <@Catonic> http://catonic.us/wigi/Jimmy.avi
21:43 <@wontonjoe> hopefully i wont have to worry soon, interview then two week notice then buh bye heart attack job
21:43 <@wontonjoe> im that stressed here, my chest hurts
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21:46 <@Catonic> blarg
21:47 <@Catonic> audacity is a pain in the ass to use
21:47 <@wontonjoe> i need a job berating catonic
21:47 <@wontonjoe> ya thats it
21:47 <@ShadowHntr> http://youtube.com/watch?v=dsU3B0W3TMs
21:47 <@ShadowHntr> bloody awesome
21:47 <@ShadowHntr> :D
21:48 <@wontonjoe> anyone recording the knight rider movie tonight?
21:48 <@dc0de> hell, if you could get paid for berating Catonic, I'd be a Billionaire.
21:48 <@wontonjoe> i am but i set my dvd recorder at sp so the end is gonna get clipped
21:49 <@wontonjoe> you know im getting offers of jobs at places like hp and apple, im also being told youll have to go to sanfransisco etc to do it, at least for the hp one
21:52 <@wontonjoe> i want to fly somewhere tomorrow, ive got no work or school monday, wheres a nice place with swift public transit
21:52 <@wontonjoe> new york maybe... nah
21:58 <@ShadowHntr> wontonjoe: Toronto, perhaps?
21:58 <@ShadowHntr> or Washington, DC
21:59 <@wontonjoe> never been to toronto maybe so
21:59 <@ShadowHntr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_subway_and_RT
21:59 <@wontonjoe> im thinking of a day trip to chicago, i have a hanker for some orange chicken from one kow in chinatown
22:00 <@wontonjoe> "won kow"
22:00 <@dc0de> well, l8r all, I'm off to bed.
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22:20 <@wontonjoe> great everyone left early again, im here at ten pm taking 20 calls by myself
22:34 < JimShoe> wontonjoe: where you working at?
22:39 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: ya, that's cool
22:39 <@sdodson> the tracker
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22:49 <@wontonjoe> jimshoe api
22:49 <@someninjamaster> omg  furries on aqua teen hunger force
22:50 <@wontonjoe> shit 4 calls in que
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22:51 <@wontonjoe> and this fucking idiot wont shut up
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22:51 <@wontonjoe> I
22:51 <@wontonjoe> hate
22:51 <@wontonjoe> my
22:51 <@wontonjoe> job
22:51 <@ShadowHntr> *sneeze*
22:51 <@sdodson> man that sucks, sorry to hear that it's a tight situation
22:51 <@ShadowHntr> and where are you located again?
22:51 <@wontonjoe> it really is
22:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Huntsville
22:52 <@wontonjoe> hsv alabama
22:52 <@ShadowHntr> ahhh
22:52 <@wontonjoe> redneck fucks ville
22:52 <@ShadowHntr> huntsvegas
22:52 <@sdodson> zomg Corydon76-dig drop'n da docs on wontonjoe
22:52 <@ShadowHntr> i'd love to work for Intergraph.
22:52 <@ShadowHntr> i'm getting a minor interest in GIS
22:53 <@sdodson> Get an interest and stick with it.
22:53 <@sdodson> As long as it's not old hardware and OS/2
22:53 <@ShadowHntr> well i am starting to learn more as i use GIS software.
22:53 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> actually i'm researching to see if i can afford to build a server around the two Xeon 2.8GHz Noconas i have
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> the tough thing is finding a Socket 604 mainboard that supports the 800MHz FSB that these Xeons use.
22:54 <@ShadowHntr> at a decent price.
22:55 <@sdodson> How much would that run you?
22:56 <@ShadowHntr> what
22:56 <@ShadowHntr> the board?
22:56 <@ShadowHntr> or a full server
22:57 <@ShadowHntr> board, ram, and storage would be what i'd need.
22:58 <@ShadowHntr> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300129375872&_trksid=p2759.l1259
22:58 <@sdodson> ya, all that
22:58 <@ShadowHntr> this would probably be the board i'd need
22:58 <@ShadowHntr> but i'm gonna wait till i can afford it
22:58 <@ShadowHntr> i probably won't buy everything in one fell swoop
22:58 <@ShadowHntr> i'd buy one part at a time
22:59 <@ShadowHntr> board will probably be around 150
22:59 <@ShadowHntr> ram about 200
22:59 <@wontonjoe> im good all 4 calls gone
22:59 <@ShadowHntr> can i use non-ecc ram in a server that normally takes ecc?
23:00 <@wontonjoe> i want out of this wet paper bag
23:00 <@dasunt> Got a cheap pair of Koss at Walmart.
23:00 <@ShadowHntr> dasunt: the ones around 18 to 20 bucks?
23:00 <@dasunt> They are pretty good, but it is amazing how much better they could be for a trivial amount of effort.
23:00 <@sdodson> You're getting dangerously close to the cost of getting a cheap new machine.
23:00 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: Yep.
23:00 <@ShadowHntr> i've had a few of those with no problem
23:00 <@ShadowHntr> of course i'm not an audiophile
23:00 <@ShadowHntr> and at that price point, i didn't complain.
23:00 <@dasunt> The headband on this one could be better.
23:01 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: yes that's what i'm worried about.
23:01 <@dasunt> But it is much nicer than the earbuds I was using yesterday.
23:01 <@sdodson> I think it varies.  Or maybe it's registered ram that may be required.
23:03 <@dasunt> These aren'
23:03 <@dasunt> Er, so I went to ye big store of useless home shit to find a lamp for myself.
23:03 <@dasunt> They had a nice $60 display model that would work well for me, but they didn't have any in stalk.  >_>
23:04 <@ShadowHntr> you're stalking lamps now?
23:04 <@dasunt> Oh, I have a stalking deli-girl story as well.
23:04 <@dasunt> Short answer:  It fucking sucks being face blind.
23:05 <@dasunt> Long answer:  She may have dyed her hair and started wearing it a different way, or she was replaced by a girl that has a similar build.
23:06 <@wontonjoe> i need a nice girl who likes my shoes
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23:08 <@sdodson> dasunt: you mean you finally saw her face and you're no longer into her?
23:11 <@dasunt> sdodson: I mean I can't tell people apart easily.
23:11 <@wontonjoe> if your a true guy your into all women, you just learn plausible deniability
23:11 <@dasunt> I tend to rely on hair style and color.
23:13 <@wontonjoe> dasunt you still not back in the dating game
23:15 <@sdodson> how do you start that game?
23:18 <@Corydon76-dig> First he grows a pair
23:18 <@dasunt> First, I end up wanting pain.
23:18 <@dasunt> Then, I date.
23:18 <@sdodson> i was asking for advise of my own
23:18 <@dasunt> Pain comes quickly after that.
23:24 < remoford> whats the best touchscreen based window manager for linux atm?
23:24 < remoford> anything come to mind?
23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> remoford: ask I-MOD when he's around
23:26 <@Corydon76-dig> He's actually done stuff with a touchscreen in Linux
23:26 <@dasunt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQECwm3erEs&feature=PlayList&p=DED094DC7559526D&index=3
23:26 <@dasunt> ^- LoL.
23:35 <@ladymerlin> whee
23:44 <@wontonjoe> look its a ladymerlin!
23:45 <@SkyDog_> Evening all.
23:48 <@brimstone> remoford: i get along with gnome and my tablet ok
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23:56 <@wontonjoe> hay i cant get ifconfig to show me the subnet wtf
23:56 <@wontonjoe> did i forget something
23:56 <@ShadowHntr> ifconfig all ?
23:56 <+coil> 255.255.255.0
23:57 <@ShadowHntr> your ip static or dynamically mapped
23:57 <@ShadowHntr> e.g. DHCP
23:59 <+coil> ipconfig /release
23:59 <+coil> try that!1!
23:59 <@wontonjoe> its static
23:59 <@wontonjoe> 0xfffc is my netmask wtf
23:59 <@wontonjoe> weird
23:59 <@ShadowHntr> maybe that's the netmask in hex?
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