--- Log opened Fri Feb 15 00:00:13 2008
00:02 <@someninjamaster> woot off
00:20 <@Dagmar> Oh that's just awesome
00:21 <@sdodson> speakers or the chopper?
00:23 <@sdodson> If I got one of those I'd paint it black.
00:23 <@Dagmar> The blog
00:23 <@sdodson> oh, ya
00:28 <@Mirage> exit
00:28 <@sdodson> no
00:28 <@sdodson> Looks like Fedora 9 is going to roll with 2.6.25
00:30 <@dasunt> I'm not sure if I should be pissed that ALSA's OSS emulation is buggy enough that it freezes up my system, or that I can kill X via the magic sysrq key, stop alsa, remove the OSS ALSA sound emulation modules, add them back in, and restart X all without losing my IRC session.
00:31 <@sdodson> OSS emulation in ALSA connecting to pulse audio... oh my
00:33 <@dasunt> No pulse.
00:38 <@someninjamaster> ha woot died
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00:45 <@dasunt> Grrr.
00:45 <@dasunt> That hung the system.
00:45 <@dasunt> Thanks creative!
01:04 <@ShadowHntr> damn
01:04 <@ShadowHntr> now i realize how slow parallel ata is
01:05 <@ShadowHntr> making an image of an 80gb pata disk
01:05 <@ShadowHntr> took 6-7 HOURS
01:05 <@ShadowHntr> 18GB disk took 60 minutes
01:05 <@ShadowHntr> maybe that's why my dad's Athlon 64-based system is so sluggish
01:11 <@Dagmar> Dude, it's got nothing to do with it being PATA
01:11 <@Dagmar> If you want shit to copy faster, buy disks that spin faster.
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01:12 <@Dagmar> SATA disks are _just_ as slow at that sort of thing
01:12 <@Dagmar> If yer dad's box is running Vista, _that_ would be why it's slow as balls.
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01:17 <@dasunt> 80gb?
01:17 <@dasunt> Shit, shouldn't take 6-7 hourrs.
01:18 <@Dagmar> It can if you bouhgt crappy Maxtor shit
01:19 <@dasunt> LoL.
01:19 <@dasunt> I went through our old drives at work about 2 months ago.
01:20 <@dasunt> Maxtors were the worst.
01:20 <@ShadowHntr> Western "Crap" Digital
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> also it was on a PCI ATA controller card
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> SiI-based
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> but all the disks involved were UATA/100 or 133
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> at least i got it done
01:21 <@Dagmar> Considering the number of WD disks I have I seriously doubt it had anything to do with it
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> and didn't lose any data
01:21 <@dasunt> ShadowHntr: DMA enabled?
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: i'm not implying that.
01:21 <@ShadowHntr> dasunt: not sure. it may have been running in PIO mode
01:21 <@Dagmar> "<ShadowHntr> Western "Crap" Digital" <-- lame fuddery
01:22 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: when i've had a 66% failure rate with western digital, i kind of develop preferences
01:22 <@ShadowHntr> :P
01:22 <@Dagmar> Id' say it probably was running in some wack-ass not-even-PIO mode as long as it was taking
01:22 <@dasunt> My (informal, anecdotal) studies seem to indicate Maxtor << Hitachi < WD < Seagate.
01:22 <@Dagmar> So you had 2 out of 3 drives die?
01:22 <@ShadowHntr> my favorite is Seagate.
01:22 <@ShadowHntr> Dagmar: try 6 out of 9 drives in 15 years.
01:22 <@Dagmar> I've only had five drives die, _ever_
01:22 <@Dagmar> Guess what brands they were.
01:23 <@ShadowHntr> i've *never* had any Seagate disks die
01:23 <@dasunt> Dagmar: For Maxtors, I'd say half that I had at work that I did a destructive read/write test on were bad.
01:23 <@ShadowHntr> i've had Seagate disks outlast the computers they were connected to
01:23 <@Dagmar> Maxtor, Maxtor, Maxtor, Quantum, Seagate.
01:23 <@ShadowHntr> of course that's not too difficult.
01:23 <@ShadowHntr> i thought Fujitsu and Samsung weren't bad, but usually i can get a Seagate for the same price as those two.
01:23 <@Dagmar> I got 528Mb WD disks that still work
01:24 <@ShadowHntr> except in some cases when it's SCSI disks we're talking about...
01:24 <@dasunt> Fujitsu is a brand I avoid, but I don't have much experience with it.
01:25 <@ShadowHntr> Fujitsu isn't bad...
01:25 <@ShadowHntr> just not very much market share except in enterprise environments, at least in my limited experience.
01:46 <@ShadowHntr> have they finished the construction on Briley between I-24 (Antioch) and I-40 (Donelson) ?
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02:19 <@dasunt> Wow, drrank too much.
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03:45 <@wontonjoe> morning
03:46 <@wontonjoe> ~seen jimshoe
03:46 <@wontonjoe> i forgot how tod o that
03:46 <@wontonjoe> oh well
03:52 <@wontonjoe> anyone here
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07:04 <@sdodson> Man, I wish old media had to do a bit more than dangle more money than MSFT in order to enter the online markets. Bad Y!, Bad!
07:13 <@sdodson> SkyDog_, Dolemite : Shadow_Phone wishes to have a mature discussion about your failures to engineer power redundancy into your mythtv machine, however so far he's attempted to have this conversation in private with me. I think he should have it here rather than chumming it up with me in private.
07:14 <@sdodson> This is all.
07:22 <@dc0de> anyone in ATL wanna go shooting after 4:30pm today?
07:26 <@Shadow_Phone> sure, but i dont have my guns with me
07:26 <@dc0de> I have mine, and we can rent.
07:27 <@Shadow_Phone> where and when?
07:27 <@dc0de> I'm thinking either BullsEye in Lawrenceville or American Classic on Metlock Bridge
07:27 <@Shadow_Phone> oh man, of course up that way
07:28 <@Shadow_Phone> home is on the completely oppisite side of town
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07:28 <@dc0de> sucks to be you.
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07:29 <@wontonjoe> almost time
07:29 <@wontonjoe> i reserved my flight last night
07:29 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:29 <@sdodson> Dolemite: haiz
07:30 <@wontonjoe> morning dolemite!
07:30 <@Shadow_Phone> dc0de: yeah, i still need to get my coworker and gf to the range
07:30 <@Dolemite> OH HAI!
07:30 <@Shadow_Phone> ill probably be at a range in marietta if your interested to join when i select a date
07:30 <@sdodson> OH HAI! http://www.flickr.com/photos/sdodson/2266464398/
07:30 <@wontonjoe> any shoot outs after outerz0ne this year>
07:30 <@wontonjoe> ?
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07:31  * sdodson shoots at wontonjoe 
07:31 <@sdodson> Are we in the ghetto this year?
07:31 <@wontonjoe> i can catch any plane back to hsv till the last one, therefore im not tied down to a return schedule
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07:32 <@wontonjoe> i dont think this is ghetto, its sounds closer to six flags to me, ok its the ghetto
07:33 <@Shadow_Phone> no no, six flags is completely oppisite side of 285
07:33 <@Shadow_Phone> and ghetto area is ghetto anyway
07:33 <@wontonjoe> ah ok
07:33 <@Shadow_Phone> in the middle of poor hosuing in an industrial park
07:34 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, so you know where frys is when yove been to oz in the past?
07:34 <@Shadow_Phone> that side of 285 where u go up 85 is where it is
07:35 <@wontonjoe> no, i was unaware of a frys there, im taking marta so i only have to make it 0.65 miles on foot to the hotel
07:35 <@Shadow_Phone> nice
07:35 <@Dolemite> sdodon : No, we're right next to the Galleria Mall
07:35 <@wontonjoe> no driving means no getting lost!
07:35 <@Dolemite> I-75 @ I-285
07:35 <@wontonjoe> oh shit a mall, like for realz?
07:35 <@Dolemite> Yeah like, for realz
07:35 <@Dolemite> So easy access to decent places to eat
07:36 <@Dolemite> easy access to teh innerstate
07:36 <@Dolemite> once you get on it, thoguh, no guarantees
07:36 <@wontonjoe> ya atlanta interstates scare me
07:36 <@wontonjoe> ok not really
07:36 <@wontonjoe> but i have friends that wont get on them
07:37 <@wontonjoe> so i may be working for a slightly known fruit company soon....
07:37 <@Dolemite> depending on the time of day I immediately go to back roads when in Atlanta
07:37 <@Dolemite> wontonjoe : That shares a portion of my name?
07:37 <@wontonjoe> no lol
07:38 <@Shadow_Phone> hmmm, tropicana?
07:38 <@wontonjoe> sure
07:38 <@Dolemite> heh, it's cheaper to buy a new GPS these days than to get map updates
07:38 <@Shadow_Phone> doing what?
07:38 <@Dolemite> that's just silly
07:38 <@Shadow_Phone> aye, trust me retarted
07:38 <@wontonjoe> so where are the talks for outerz0ne, im geussing theyre in the works?
07:39 <@Dolemite> Amcor A3900 GPS for $96
07:39 <@Shadow_Phone> i just download borrowed copies of updates
07:39 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ said that he only has about 3 slots left
07:39 <@wontonjoe> cool
07:39 <@Dolemite> He's got commitments from speakers, but not written abstracts from most of them
07:39 <@wontonjoe> i bet it will be good, it always is
07:39 <@Dolemite> I, of course, being the over achiever, submitting my written abstract before anybody else
07:40 <@Dolemite> wontonjoe : I thought you were going to try to give a talk?
07:40 <@wontonjoe> i have one i want to do, but it involves cell phones and is illegal, like i could go to jail just for demonstrating it.
07:40 <@wontonjoe> i really dont want to go back to prison.
07:41 <@Dolemite> ah
07:41 <@Dolemite> so that'll be an unofficial presentation that you give during somebody's room party
07:41 <@wontonjoe> i might
07:41 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, theres a nutrigrain bar thats called "sweet and salty nut"
07:41 <@Dolemite> is it phone specific?
07:41 <@wontonjoe> i dont think its really new stuff, just how to do an old trick with a new device.
07:42 <@wontonjoe> well it is down to the lg models only i believe
07:42 <@Dolemite> oh
07:42 <@Dolemite> so nobody at the con would use it since 99% of us have smartphones ;)
07:42 <@Dolemite> w00t off!
07:43 <@Shadow_Phone> hehe
07:43 <@wontonjoe> well.... it can be done with utstarcom xv and ppc6700 phones
07:43 <@wontonjoe> sprint and verizon smartphones
07:43 <@Dolemite> I have a Moto Q
07:43 <@Dolemite> That's pretty much Sprint's hottest phone these days
07:43 <@wontonjoe> ya
07:43 <@Shadow_Phone> at a training meeting, so yeah, im avoiding learningby anwering work emails (goofing off on irc)
07:43 <@wontonjoe> unfortunately motorola has their cdma phones locked down pretty well
07:43 <@Dolemite> yeah
07:44 <@Dolemite> I just want them to stop making tethering so fucking difficult
07:44 <@Shadow_Phone> wontonjoe: any hacks for sidekick 3?
07:44 <@Shadow_Phone> or neat tricks?
07:44 <@wontonjoe> and expensive if your on verizon, it is 59 a month to tehter my razr
07:44 <@wontonjoe> ms sidekick 4 coming soon lol
07:45 <@Shadow_Phone> ms = microsoft?
07:45 <@wontonjoe> yes, they are buying danger
07:45 <@Shadow_Phone> nice, fucktionility will be nice
07:45 <@Dolemite> Well we have unlimited data plans here on the work phones, so the finance people think that we should be able to easily tether
07:45 <@Dolemite> they just don't know
07:48 <@wontonjoe> maybe ill do a presentation of slides or something, since the stuff ive been working on has a lot to do with how verizon will sell you a phone but disable lots of features, such as tethering
07:48 <@someninjamaster> i figured yall would use blackberrys
07:48 <@Shadow_Phone> wontonjoe: then again, if ms buys danger, there goes the open source projects
07:49 <@Dolemite> Shit, crackberries are a piece of shit
07:49 <@someninjamaster> with macs they are
07:49 <@Shadow_Phone> agreed
07:49 <@wontonjoe> i liked my blackberry, of course nasa wouldnt allow anything else if i wanted my email mobile
07:49 <@someninjamaster> but mine has been alot more solid than any of my windows moble ones
07:50 <@wontonjoe> rim knows how to make an os
07:50 <@wontonjoe> and they make it do one thing well
07:50 <@wontonjoe> email and foozball
07:51 <@wontonjoe> i mean email
07:51 <@someninjamaster> there was a rdp client i used on mine that was pretty cool
07:51 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
07:51 <@wontonjoe> ok i gotta run  possibly back later.....
07:52 <@Shadow_Phone> i need to install ssh on scotchciks crackberry still, so she can actually use her data service for something else other than gmail and checking bbc news
07:53 <@someninjamaster> i need to do that as well
07:53 <@Shadow_Phone> they probably have free clients available for the pearl now
07:54 <@someninjamaster> as soon as the iphone sdk comes out ill proably drop the blackberry for a aircard
07:54 <@someninjamaster> but right now its the only thing i can install 3rd party on right now
07:54 <@Shadow_Phone> anyway, battery draining away, bbl
07:56 <@Dolemite> I think I'll have to get me some Caribou Coffee when I'm in town for OZ.  I miss that place.
07:56 <@Dolemite> I can't stand Starfucks
08:04 <@someninjamaster> damnit scos back
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08:11 <@Dolemite> Anybody know of an con activity the weekend of April 5?
08:11 <@brimstone> moving oz4?
08:12 <@Dolemite> doh!  Nope, that's notacon weekend.
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08:12 <@Dolemite> brimstone : No, planning another 2600 social activity
08:12 <@brimstone> ah
08:12 <@Dolemite> Looks like April 12 will be the date
08:13  * Dolemite goes back to copy writing
08:13 <@oddball> heh.... I picked up a 6 pack of tropicana OJ this morning, and the cartons come with telescopic straws
08:18 <@Dagmar> In case you need to drink them from space
08:20 <@oddball> well, it means they can pack a straw large enough to use, but small enough to fit on the carton
08:23 <@oddball> oh, and note to the Kroger's manager: using the observation deck to yell at an employee means everyone in the store can hear you.
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08:44 < ware> h0 sn4p
08:44 < ware> stupid fucking valentines day is over. yay
08:44 < ware> preds suck ass, my ex is a lying cheating slut, and im still a fucking dumbass kid
08:44 <@Dagmar> And this is why you wind up sleeping with the fat chick.
08:44 <@Dolemite> ware : I tell you what.  I'll buy you lunch and one drink.
08:45 < ware> tune in tomorrow to "WOW! What else does Captian fucking obvious have to say?"
08:45 < ware> Dolemite: thatll work
08:46 <@baudburn> morning
08:46 <@Dolemite> I got a call from the place that does the Sonic shops yesterday afternoon...  offered me $10 + reimbursement to do one last night
08:47 <@Dolemite> so I picked it up
08:47 <@someninjamaster> sup baudburn
08:47 <@Dolemite> that's 1/15th of my camera purchase yesterday
08:47 <@baudburn> yo someninjamaster
08:47 <@Dolemite> 14 more and it's paid for!
08:48 <@baudburn> <-- leaves tomorrow for germany wooO!
08:48 <@someninjamaster> cool what part
08:48 <@baudburn> Berlin
08:48 <@Dolemite> teh European part
08:48 <@someninjamaster> cool
08:49 <@someninjamaster> my uncle was delta pilot and spent a ton of time there
08:49 <@baudburn> cool
08:50 <@baudburn> we're staying in east berlin
08:55 < ware> just for vacation?
08:56 <@Dolemite> ware : Just remember, after we're done we have to leave immediatly.  No hanging out in the waiting area talking to your peeps.
08:56 < ware> lol
08:56 < ware> when we going?
08:56 < ware> and wheres it at
08:56 <@Dolemite> Hickory Hollow
08:56 <@Dolemite> any time after noon
08:56 <@baudburn> ware: yeah.. mostly
08:56 <@Dolemite> So how about right at noon?
08:56 <@Dagmar> Ah, so no consorting with hoodrats is what you're saying.
08:57 <@Dolemite> Dagmar : No, I have to take ware with me for the shop to be valid.
08:57 <@Dolemite> Oh, you mean *other* hoodrats.
08:57 < ware> hes just using me
08:57 <@Dagmar> Yes,.
08:57 < ware> and i like it
08:57 <@Dolemite> I'm using ware for his 22 year old body.
08:57 <@Dolemite> Corydon would be so jealous.
08:57 < ware> hahaha
08:57 <@Shadow_Phone> great, 1800flowers.com sucks!!!
08:58 <@Shadow_Phone> clare ordered me flowers to arrive yesterday on last monday
08:58 < ware> the couple times ive used them they were fine. a bitch to get off the mailing list tho
08:58 <@Shadow_Phone> so they had almost plenty of notice, and it not expected to arrive until next monday, shes getting a partial refund though, but thats shitty
09:00 <@Shadow_Phone> anywho, back to another boring training class
09:05 < ware> anyone else getting server too busy from woot.com
09:05 <@Dolemite> yeah
09:05 <@Dolemite> too many people wooting off
09:06 <@Dagmar> Must be somethin' good up there
09:06 < ware> rss says La Crosse Projection Alarm Clock/Weather Station - $14.99
09:06 <@baudburn> i'm curious where woot getis it's junk
09:06 < ware> actually
09:06 < ware> looks like its a wootoff
09:06 <@baudburn> i mean. "products"
09:06 <@Dolemite> I think it was a digital camcorder when I looked earlier this morning
09:06 < ware> according to the rss feed
09:06 <@Dagmar> Looks like whatever it was just a minute ago is gone
09:06 <@Dagmar> Now they have a power inverter.
09:06 <@Dagmar> Big whoop.
09:06 <@Dolemite> ware : It is.  I stated that earlier before you started talking in here.
09:06 < ware> ahh
09:14 <@baudburn> Fuck.. i hate it when people break the repository
09:15 < ware> lol the description is upside down
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09:50 <@oddball> anyone have a recommendation for a free virtual machine program?  The place I work for can't quite swing buying something like VMware
09:51 <@Dolemite> VMWare Workstation is free
09:51 <@oddball> is it? cool
09:51 <@brimstone> vmware server is free too
09:51 <@brimstone> xen is free
09:51 <@Dolemite> Yeah, VMWare Server is free, but ESX is not
09:52 <@Dolemite> VMWare has much better management tools than Xen at this point, though
09:52 <@Dolemite> I'm ready for Xen to catch up and pass them by, though
09:57 < ware> can i get ware <at> nashville2600.org?
10:00 <@Dolemite> where do you want it forwarded to?
10:00 < ware> pm'd
10:02 <@Dolemite> check your email in a few minutes
10:02 < ware> thanks
10:06 <@GodFix> http://www.police.nashville.gov/news/media/2008/02/14b.htm
10:08 <@Dagmar> Good god how many of those people smoked up before going over
10:08 <@GodFix> I'm amazed half of them even know how to use CL or a computer much less
10:10 <@oddball> although, that might make a good defense.  "Your honor, my client is clearly too stupid to have found the postings."
10:10 <@Dagmar> GodFix: CLEARLY you do not read the same forums I do.
10:10 < ware> Wes Bivins, 24, of Lewisburg (also charged with misdemeanor marijuana possession)
10:11 <@Dagmar> GodFix: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/root-you-are-not-allowed-to-access-the-system-configuration-618999/  <--- proof that bogons never die
10:11 <@GodFix> Dagmar: clearly not
10:11 <@Dagmar> Yet another fucking shortbus rider telling people to `xhost +`
10:11 <@Dagmar> I see that onebuck has noticed my last (and second, and definitely LAST) polite response on that thread.
10:12 <@Dagmar> I'm going to wait a day or so before composing a suitable response.
10:12 <@Dagmar> ...jsut in case he still doesn't get it.
10:12 <@Dagmar> Some things are fundamentally stupid to do on a help forum, and telling someone to disable X security just so they can run a GUI tool as root is _definitely_ one of those things.
10:13 <@oddball> gah!
10:14 <@GodFix> "If you can't be bothered to learn how to administrate a system properly, you should probably be running some other distribution." BRAVO
10:15 <@oddball> I love people who answer questions with "you should use something else"
10:15 <@Dagmar> In this case, they should probably be using Ubuntu.
10:15 <@Dagmar> Then they don't _have_ to learn this stuff.
10:15 <@Dagmar> With Slackware, it's not optional.
10:16 <@Dagmar> Those dimwits seem to think I was saying that this person doesn't _deserve_ to run Slackware or something.
10:16 <@Dagmar> To me it looks like the person arguing that "unplugging the ethernet" solves the problem is really arguing that they don't _want_ to learn the correct way to do things.
10:16 <@Dagmar> ...and for FUCK's sake, how goddamn hard is it to remember to type `su` instead of `su -`.
10:18 <@Dagmar> It's _really_ unproductive to even argue there's any reason for most people to even know about xhost
10:18 <@Dagmar> What really chaps my ass hte most is that same poster followed his comment up with something equally dim ("you still need to have a valid username and passwd on the machine") and NOT ONE PERSON called him on that
10:19 <@Dagmar> Like wait, what the fuck kind of anti-Earth did I wake up in where I chide someone for telling someone something really *bad* to do, *I* get my ass jumped for it, and the dumbass continues to spread idiocy unchecked.
10:20 <@rhia> Dagmar: this one:
10:20 <@rhia> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/books/14dumb.html?em&ex=1203224400&en=9813e31206335cfb&ei=5087%0A
10:20 <@Dagmar> I swear I'm >< close to finding an appropriate lolcat to post on LQ
10:21 <@oddball> You've got a rather large list of "your doin' it wrong!" picts to chose from
10:22 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I know
10:22 <@Dagmar> I need something that will make people CRY tho
10:22 <@Dagmar> I want to use words that HURT, and possibly maim.
10:24 <@Dagmar> rhia: I'm meming that link, by the way
10:27 <@oddball> rhia: thank you... I thought my faith in the American public couldn't deminish further.  I was wrong.
10:27 <@Dementia> rhia: did you notice that if you double-click on a word in that article, a window will come up with the definition of the word?
10:28 <@oddball> huh, neat
10:28 <@Dementia> I wasn't sure what 'solipsism' was so I went to look it up, and it came up for me
10:29 < ware> thats cool
10:30 <@Dagmar> If those asshats on LQ keep at it, I'm going to cite that article to them.
10:30 <@Dagmar> ...and then probably use a lolcat to drive the point home.
10:32 < ware> im hungry
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10:59 <@notlarry> Evilpig:  you around?
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11:12 <@Evilpig> dring but kinda
11:12 <@Evilpig> driving*
11:20 <@Dagmar> notlarry: What did you do with the ORA Net+ book?
11:28 <@Dolemite> I'm surprised we haven't heard from the Shmoobound Skydog yet.
11:30 < ware> Dolemite: lunch?
11:30 <@Dolemite> lunch!
11:31 <@Dolemite> I'll call you when I leave, then you can leave 5 minutes after that
11:32 <@Dagmar> "2.Tell everyone you see over the next five weeks that you are .going behind bars for good. and that you need their help with bail money to get out. You will be surprised how many smiles you will get with that statement. "
11:32 <@Dagmar> BAHAH
11:32 <@Dagmar> "Smiles" is not on the top of the list of what I'd expect to see from that
11:40  * ware hadnt heard of port knocking til just now
11:40 < ware> pretty cool idea
11:41 <@Dolemite> notlarry : Thanks for nominating EVERYBODY in the NOC for the MDA Lock-Up Fundraiser.
11:42 <@Dagmar> ...you little bitch.
11:44 < ware> http://pbfcomics.com/archive_b/PBF245-Fire_Alarm.gif
11:44 <@Dolemite> ware : I'm heading that way, meet you in the parking lot outside
11:45 <@Dolemite> er parking lot outside of TGIF
11:47 < ware> k
11:49  * ware gets prettied up for his lunch date
11:49 < ware> bbl!
11:52 <@baudburn> yar
11:53 <@oddball> hmmm... it's been to long since I've had a large amount of sugar. 36oz of orange juice didn't use to make me hyper.
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12:12 <@sdodson> Don't try this on your dad's stereo, only under hip hop supervision.
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12:50 <@polerin> oddball: heh, you hyper is a frightening thought
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12:50 <@oddball> hehehe... whyousaythat.whywaouldanyonebefrightenedoflittleoldme?
12:51 <@Corydon76-dig> * oddball is now known as oddballblur
12:52 <@oddball> Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
12:55 < ware> hehehe
12:55 < ware> we got somebody fired
12:56 <@GodFix> ware: for \hat?
12:56 <@GodFix> s/\hat/what
12:56 < ware> nnoncompliance
12:56 <@oddball> didn't card ya?
12:56 < ware> nerp
12:58 <@oddball> I would have thought that would result in a chewing out, but not termination
12:59 < ware> i think company policy is to let them go on the spot
13:00 <@oddball> damn
13:00 <@GodFix> how bad of a noncompliance incident could it be though?
13:00 <@Mirage> oddball == squirrel? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_wY3q7nvGA
13:00 <@oddball> OMG motherfuckerWeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
13:01 <@oddball> oops... time for me to head home.  Later all
13:01 < ware> pz
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13:06 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: failing to card someone who could be a minor could get the business locked, fined, and a loss of its liquor license.
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13:06 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: that would be the case if the people catching them were law enforcement, instead of company self-enforcement
13:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Hence why the company is interested in ensuring that all of their employees are following policy
13:09 <@GodFix> Was ware talking about a liquor store?
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13:20 <@Dolemite> The restaurant in question has a policy to card anyone who looks less than 40 years old
13:20 <@Dolemite> Nobody in their right mind can give a convincing argument that ware looks over 30
13:31 < ware> haha true
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13:45 <@polerin> http://static.mmoabc.com/my/M/i/c/hael/2008/2/3//1202097987293.jpg
13:48 <@Catonic> Just wrapping my mind around that... but it sounds like a really disgusting idea.
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13:59 <+coil> unf fap meow
14:00 <@dc0de> sup all.
14:00 <+coil> Corydon76-dig: i went to a japanese restraunt last night and drank some sake
14:01 <@dc0de> sake is the sneakiest alcohol EVAR!
14:01 <+coil> it was sooo good
14:01 <+coil> peace flavor
14:01 <+coil> er peach
14:01 <@dc0de> I agree, it's good, but damn.
14:02 <@dc0de> next thing you know...
14:02 <+coil> yep
14:02 <@dc0de> Ol' Jed's a millionairre!
14:02 <+coil> i was all loopy by the time the sushi came :P
14:02 <@dc0de> drank some at Shmoocon last year... all I can say is... Ouch.
14:02 <@dc0de> it were good...
14:02 <@dc0de> but...
14:03 <+coil> you can't do that anymore?
14:03 <@dc0de> nope.
14:03 <@dc0de> it's ok, I got to try it before I went on the wagon.
14:03 <@dc0de> so it's all good.
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14:45 <@Dolemite> ware : Heh, I scored another 10 out of 10 on the evaluation for that shop.  We make a good team, even if we do get people fired.  lol
14:46 <@Catonic> good cop/bad cop?
14:46 < ware> haha
14:46 < ware> nice
14:48 < ware> hot cop / not cop
14:50 <@Neoteric> who's coming for shmoo?
14:50 <@Neoteric> dc0de: you coming?
14:51 <@Catonic> Neoteric: email me my picture, ya schmuck
14:59 <@Neoteric> Catonic: 1) shmoocon 2) bite me
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15:05 <@polerin> wait
15:06 <@polerin> dc0de: yer on the wagon?
15:16 < ware> just a fading fucking reminder of who i used to be
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15:23 <@Dolemite> dc0de is diabetic and can't drink alcohol
15:26 <@Evilpig> well shit.  looks like my chicago trip is fucked
15:27 <@Dolemite> When were you going to Chicago?
15:28 <@Dolemite> By the way, the next time you drive that way via IL, stop for a meal in Urbana at "Urbana's Garden Restaurant".  They don't let you leave hungry.
15:28 <@Dolemite> That and they serve breakfast all day long.  mmMMmMMmmm...   pr0k.
15:28 <@Evilpig> I was supposed to go all next week for some novell training
15:28 <+coil> $22 for 10oz of this sake
15:29 <@notlarry> what happened pig?
15:29 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : Ah, well it's better that you didn't, seeing as it was Novell and all. ;)
15:29 <@Dolemite> notlarry : Thanks for nominating the entire NOC for the MDA Lock-Out
15:29 <@notlarry> not me
15:29 <@Dolemite> Uh huh
15:29 <@Dolemite> Dagmar sure seems to think it was you
15:30 <@notlarry> Evilpig: You won't need all that Novell training at your next job
15:30 <@Dolemite> But I think it's a great way for them to raise money
15:30 <@Dolemite> I'm actually sad that I'll be out of town the week it's happening
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15:30 < ware> notlarry: when we going skating
15:30 <@notlarry> Dagmar also thinks there is a spoon
15:30 <@notlarry> when you get a deck?
15:31 <@notlarry> shadowmoss: you around?
15:32 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: well you see it was novell training but it is actually suse 10.1 training.  just happens to have some novell overtones
15:32 <@Evilpig> and I pretty much need that right now.
15:32 <@Dolemite> Ah, well then that would have been useful
15:34 <@notlarry> so, Evilpig, wtf?  Why no training?
15:36 <@Evilpig> because my "boss" is a fucking moron that can't keep a schedule straight
15:36 <@Evilpig> and this was only planned for a month so it was last minute and all
15:55 <@notlarry> Evilpig: I know how you feel, I got one of those too
15:55 <@polerin> hehe
15:55 <@polerin> yeh we all know your boss can't plan fer shit. ;)
15:56 <@notlarry> polerin: I just got my comcast bill.  Think I will go open it.
16:01 <@Evilpig> anyone in here work with xen much?
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16:13 <@brimstone> Evilpig: i do
16:13 <@brimstone> i <3 xen
16:14 <@Evilpig> is there a way to resize the image file?
16:14 <@brimstone> resize2fs disk.img newsizeGB
16:15 <@Evilpig> that's it?  seems easy enough
16:15 <@brimstone> yup
16:15 <@brimstone> just like any other disk image
16:15 <@Evilpig> 149G -rw-r--r--  1 root root 149G Feb 15 17:09 winxp_disk.img
16:15 <@Evilpig> linux-zt5e:/etc/xen # cd /media/
16:15 <@Evilpig> linux-zt5e:/media # resize2fs winxp_disk.img 9GB
16:15 <@Evilpig> resize2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
16:15 <@Evilpig> resize2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open winxp_disk.img
16:15 <@Evilpig> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
16:15 <@Evilpig> the image is ntfs does that matter?
16:16 <@brimstone> herm, then use ntfs resize?
16:22 <@polerin> NL: heh, if it's not what I talked with you about, I really wanna know ;P
16:35 <@Evilpig> bah.  ntfsresize doesn't want to work cause of some other stupid error
16:35 <@Evilpig> linux-zt5e:/media # ntfsresize -i --force /dev/mapper/loop1p1
16:35 <@Evilpig> ntfsresize v1.11.2
16:35 <@Evilpig> ERROR(2): Failed to check '/dev/mapper/loop1p1' mount state: No such file or directory
16:35 <@Evilpig> Probably /etc/mtab is missing. It's too risky to continue. You might try
16:35 <@Evilpig> an another Linux distro.
16:35 <@Evilpig> even with -f it won't do it.
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17:02 <@dc0de> Who's @ Shmoocon?
17:03 <@Evilpig> oh screw this for tnight.  getting nowhere fast and just frustrating myself
17:07 <@Mirage> dc0de: Skydog/Ladymerlin for sure.  SkyDog's the official communication liason to Heidi..=)
17:08 <@Mirage> I gave him hell and said 'so what, you have some fake earbud stuck in and stand behind her with your arms crossed trying to look intimidating?'  He said, 'What, are you here too? '
17:16 <@Mirage> Heh, Charles Barkley says he'll be running for Gov of Alabama in 2014
17:17 <@Catonic> the arms look more intimidating when the belly is not as large.
17:18 <@Catonic> Kobe Bryant has a better shot
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17:29 <@notlarry> Mirage: you at work?
17:30 <@Evilpig> 28" is too big for my desk
17:30 <@Evilpig> holy shit
17:36 <@Corydon76-dig> So apparently Pig is hung like a horse...
17:40 <@someninjamaster> holy shit that was alot of meetings today
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17:52 <@rattle> Greetings peeps.
17:53 <@rattle> I'll be heading over to ShmooCon in about an hour..
17:53 <@rattle> Just got out of work.
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18:35 <@dc0de> rattle if you see acidus, ask him to check his memestreams mail.  I need his assist with something.
18:35 <@dc0de> Mirage scary but true.
18:35 <@Catonic> http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p221/wb0qqk/MLXBFW.jpg
18:42 <@rattle> dc0de:  Will do.
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18:43 < Synx_hm> what up peeps
18:43 < Synx_hm> good morning (10:43am) from far away
18:46 <@dc0de> sup Synx_hm
18:46 <@dc0de> thanks Rattle
18:47  * dc0de is still at the office working... wife and kids are in FL
18:47 <@rattle> Today was a little like being in a really bad CDW commercial.
18:48 <@rattle> Boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes.
18:48 < Synx_hm> its saturday morning here
18:48 <@rattle> Two elevators full of boxes.
18:48 < Synx_hm> its nice working a friday and sending emails for peeps back home to get done on friday while i am hanging out on the beach
18:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: at least it's Guam, and not a warzone
18:52 < Synx_hm> ya
18:54 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig it's only a short flight to the target area.
18:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: are you staying in Guam?
18:55 < Synx_hm> for a while yes
18:56 < Synx_hm> deployed
18:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, I remember.  ;-)
18:56 < Synx_hm> oh i get ya
19:01 <@Catonic> dc0de: Let's go hit a strip club
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19:06 <@Mirage> notlarry: you want something?
19:10 <@Catonic> Mirage: careful, he may want to spoon
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19:19 <@notlarry> damn it, I can not get remote console to work
19:20 <@devemo> What's remote console?
19:22 <@notlarry> Evilpig: ?
19:23 <@Corydon76-dig> devemo: generally, it's a hardware device that let's you access a computer's console as if it were local
19:23 <@devemo> like ssh?
19:23 <@devemo> why hardware?
19:23 <@Corydon76-dig> devemo: actually, it generally lets you see things like the BIOS posting
19:23 <@Corydon76-dig> so pre-boot
19:24 <@devemo> frame-grabbers?
19:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Something like that
19:24 <@notlarry> Evilpig:  you here?
19:24 <@devemo> mmkay, thanks
19:25 <@Corydon76-dig> devemo: tends to be high end equipment, though
19:25 <@devemo> oh
19:25 <@Corydon76-dig> devemo: some of them have builtin modems that let you dialup to the console even when the network is down
19:25 <@devemo> oh, for the more fault tolerant equipment?
19:26 <@Corydon76-dig> For mission critical equipment
19:26 <@devemo> cool
19:26 <@Corydon76-dig> If it's 4 am and your server is down, sometimes you need that alternate access to get your server rebooted and running again
19:27 <@devemo> do you need special hardware to view it?
19:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Depends on the unit
19:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Generally not, though
19:31 <@Corydon76-dig> The only other reason for needing physical access is still replacing faulty components.
19:33 <@sdodson> serial consoles
19:34 <@devemo> Well, you don't know... they might have remote-access robots just for that purpose... :)
19:38 < Synx_hm> anybody have AOL installed
19:39 < Synx_hm> i am talking thru AIM to my aunt who is on the phone with my grandpa trying to tell him how to get the AIM built in client into avail mode
19:39 < Synx_hm> and i have no idea, ive never used it
19:42 < Synx_hm> bah
19:42 < Synx_hm> im out for a while peeps
19:42 < Synx_hm> see ya all soon
19:43 <@devemo> bye
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19:59 <@Catonic> dc0de: around?
20:05 <@dasunt> Set him on fire.
20:09 <@Catonic> Type O Negative?
20:10 <@dasunt> Good band.
20:10 <@dasunt> Damn good band.
20:11 <@dasunt> Although I noticed that my favorite music store moved them from the metal section to the goth section.  <_<
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20:21 <@dasunt> So Obama voted to give telecoms immunity for illegal wiretaps, Clinton was present and didn't vote, and McCain voted no.
20:22 <@dasunt> It is kind of sad when the Republican candidate is the most likely to protect rights in the war on terro.
20:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Or both Democrats didn't want to give the RNC ammunition and knew the House would trash the bill
20:30 <@dasunt> Fuck 'em.
20:30 <@dasunt> Btw, how do they vote, alphabetical order or?
20:42 <@Catonic> wow, I will never be able to watch wrestling again
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20:43 <@Catonic> whatever crap they show on WWF is downright pedestrian compared to what I've seen in martial arts.
20:46 < ware> shut the fuck up
20:49 <@dasunt> Gah.
20:49 <@dasunt> Why is all the shit I want on Amazon so fucking expensive?
20:54 <@Catonic> ware: who shoved centipedes in your vagina?
20:59 <@dasunt> Catonic: It is Friday.  It is to be expected it would happen.
21:09 <@dc0de> Catonic I'm here... sup?
21:13 <@sdodson> dasunt: don't read
21:14  * dc0de is off to the house.
21:14 <@sdodson> Whose house?!
21:14 <@Catonic> dc0de: I don't remember.
21:14 <@dc0de> Catonic cool
21:14 <@dc0de> sdodson I'm still at the office...
21:14 <@dc0de> anyway...l8r
21:16 <@sdodson> http://ovirt.org/ zomg mad leet
21:34 <@SkyDog_> Eveing all.
21:34 <@Mirage> wuf
21:34 <@SkyDog_> W00f!@
21:35 <@Mirage> taking a break for a couple before the drinking kicks in?
21:35 <@SkyDog_> Yeah. About the goto the toorcon party.
21:35 <@SkyDog_> Just checking email for a few mins.
21:36 <@SkyDog_> OK, back in a little while. gonna party crawl.
21:47 <@Catonic> http://www.5min.com/Video/Penn--Teller-How-to-Do-the-Saw-Trick-4988312
21:51 < JimShoe> Catonic: that is like their most famous trick
21:51 < JimShoe> they do it all the time
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22:26 <@dasunt> Jesus.
22:26 <@dasunt> So anyways, in my RSS feed is a feminist blog.
22:27 <@dasunt> Goes off on anything, if it is the blog I'm recalling.
22:27 <@dasunt> So, today it posts a link to:  http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/
22:27 <@dasunt> And unless I'm missing dry sarcasm, it likes it.
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22:59 <@Catonic> not passing out. time to take pillz.
23:00 <@sdodson> you know, stuff white people like
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23:04 <@someninjamaster> hows shmoocon going
23:20 < ware> no fuck you
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23:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Evening, Tie
23:21 <@someninjamaster>  whats up tie fighter
23:21 <@dasunt> Can I call down the fire?
23:21 <@TieFighter> Corydon76-dig,  whats up
23:21 <@Corydon76-dig> How's fatherhood treating you?
23:21 <@TieFighter> someninjamaster, hows it going
23:21 <@TieFighter> kidless tonight
23:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah...
23:21 <@sdodson> ya, me too
23:22 <@Corydon76-dig> You usually like talking about Max, thought I'd give you a chance
23:23 < ware> yah vandy bitches got muny
23:23 < ware> i am n3td3v
23:23 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you wish
23:23 < ware> Corydon76-dig: you have no idea
23:23 <@TieFighter> always thinking about someone other then yourself thats what i like about you corydon
23:23 <@sdodson> netdev?
23:24 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: trolling 'tard on the full-disclosure list
23:24 < ware> TieFighter: cause hes tryin to touch ur monkey
23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Security community has a whole lot of people who care and a few vocal assholes
23:26 <@sdodson> Most communities do.
23:26 <@sdodson> That's why I avoided Linux for so long.
23:26 <@sdodson> frothy mouthed morons
23:26 <@sdodson> but they're not representative of the whole so it's all good
23:26 <@Catonic> frothy mouthy mormons?
23:26 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: and the BSDs have Theo
23:26 < ware> suck a cock Catonic you whore
23:27 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm sure there's a few others, but few compare with Theo
23:27 <@sdodson> no, I'm talking about loud morons
23:27 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: sign off while you're drunk, please
23:27 <@sdodson> he atleast thinks things through
23:28 <@Corydon76-dig> There is that
23:28 <@Corydon76-dig> He doesn't always reach the best conclusion, but he does think at least a little
23:28 < ware> Corydon76-dig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-TBNrwcuVs
23:29 < ware> ROCKIONG and FUCKING ROLLING
23:29 < ware> and FUCKING ROCKING
23:29 < ware> and FUCKING ROLLING
23:29 < ware>  \m/
23:29 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: I'd fuck your ass if I thought it would help
23:30 < ware> HE is GOING to KICK YOUR FUCKING ASS! AND you KNOW his name is KYLE GASS
23:30 < ware> hahaha im sorry
23:30 < ware> if you havent seen tenacious d you need to
23:30 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BQGaSKfVWU&NR=1
23:30 <@Catonic> the smartest thing that ever came out of ware's mouth was Corydon76's dck
23:31 <@sdodson> Catonic: you've had many intelligent discussions with it?
23:31 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: hours and hours
23:32 < ware> Catonic: youre just mad it wasnt you like last time
23:32 <@Catonic> ware: no. I'm mad because I thought we had something special, then you went and cheated on me with Corydon
23:32 <@sdodson> ahw, even when hammered ware still spells better than Shadow_Phone
23:33 < ware> sdodson: HAHAHA
23:33 < ware> Catonic: hes just not as gentle as you. when i want to fuck a guy i need it rough.  <log that hoes>
23:34  * Catonic hands the shotgun to Corydon76: "Your turn to shoot the barrel, sir."
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23:36 <@Corydon76-dig> I think I'll leave off
23:40  * ware takes the boy butter from Corydon76-dig 
23:41 <@sdodson> ya, see this is why i want my own room at oz
23:42 < ware> cmon.. i wont break anything
23:42 < ware> again
23:43 <@Catonic> talk to dc0de and SkyDog_ about getting some rope and ty-wraps
23:43 < ware> i got skydog and dc0de on my side, they wont fuck with me
23:44 < ware> 'my frenz can beat up ur frenz'
23:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Besides, if ware wanted to experiment, he knows where to find me.  I'll be asleep.  In my room.  Without a D cell between my buttcheeks.
23:44 <@sdodson> Who's going to be the violent drunk this year now that catonic isn't showing?
23:45 <@Catonic> I'm not a violent drunk.
23:45 < ware> hahaha shit
23:45 <@dc0de> Catonic I'm not at shmoo
23:46 <@dasunt> I'm a great drunk.
23:46 <@dasunt> I'm nice and happy.
23:46 <@dasunt> God's in his heaven, all is right with the world.
23:47 <@dc0de> ware; what friends do you have that can beat up SkyDog_ and me?
23:48 <@dc0de> and ware; who says we're on YOUR side?
23:48 < ware> i said yall are my friends and could beat up anybody elses friends
23:48 < ware> motherfucker you are on my side
23:48 <@dc0de> ware; as long as you don't throw shit out of the hotel rooms, or off the roof, perhaps.
23:49 < ware> :D
23:49 <@dc0de> you fuck one sheep...
23:49 < ware> HAHAHA
23:49 < ware> they didnt get that one of video
23:51 < ware> on*
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> but they could have
23:51 < ware> rofl sleep time
23:51 < ware> drunks
23:52 <@dc0de> I'm still wide awake... I'm going to finish some work.
23:52  * Catonic sits down and writes a psych paper on the incidence of alcoholism in hacking circles
23:55 <@dasunt> LoL.
23:55 <@dasunt> You should know my email.  :p
23:57 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr8n0ww3pio
23:59 <@Catonic> dasunt: you forget that if I hold a mirror up, I can write half the article on myself.
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