--- Log opened Mon Feb 11 00:00:13 2008 00:04 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:11 -!- macogw [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has left #se2600 [] 01:01 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:02 <+coil> http://67.9.97.92/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=8114 look at what i coughed up 01:02 <+coil> nsf people that dont like to look at something disgusting 01:02 -!- coil was kicked from #se2600 by someninjamaster [no one wants to see that] 01:02 -!- coil [i=scott@24.96.135.212] has joined #se2600 01:03 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v coil] by ChanServ 02:30 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 02:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 04:13 -!- Psyiode [n=bldahodu@ip72-208-119-236.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #se2600 04:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Psyiode] by ChanServ 04:13 <@Psyiode> zomghax 04:14 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v adrenaline] by Psyiode 04:15 <@Psyiode> i think im in love 04:15 <@Psyiode> crazy 04:31 <@wontonjoe> oh shit 04:35 <@Psyiode> hehe 04:36 <@Psyiode> but i need to sleep 04:36 <@Psyiode> g'night 05:39 <@wontonjoe> i might have a talk for ze outerz0ne, and about cellphones no less 05:39 <@wontonjoe> hope theres room left 05:40 -!- LastChild [n=LastChil@A041134.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has quit ["Buhbye"] 05:40 <@wontonjoe> anywho, ill discuss it with you guys during hours of the day when your all not snoring 07:17 <@rattle> Holy shit. It's like 14F. 07:17 <@rattle> I just went out to smoke a cigarette, and I need to fucking defrost. 07:19 <@rattle> In other news, the writers strike is over! W00h00! 07:35 -!- illuminator [n=Lumen@dhcp74.iglou.com] has joined #se2600 07:36 <@dc0de> mr0nin all 07:45 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez! 07:47 -!- nz [n=rmjackso@cpe-098-026-037-136.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 08:03 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 08:07 <@dasunt> LoL. 08:07 <@dasunt> "<@Psyiode> i think im in love 08:07 <@dasunt> Welcome to hell. 08:10 <@polerin> heh 08:16 <@dasunt> Gah. 08:16 <@dasunt> Bored. 08:17 <@brimstone> down a server 08:18 <@dasunt> Not at work yet. 08:18 <@dasunt> And I don't have any fun servers to down. 08:20 <@polerin> I'm spending my morning catching up on stuff 08:20 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:24 <@dasunt> Such as? 08:26 <@dasunt> Should I set someone on fire? 08:26 <@dasunt> Y/n? 08:28 -!- maxiez [n=MaxieZ@nat334.national-net.com] has joined #se2600 08:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v maxiez] by ChanServ 08:28 -!- illuminator [n=Lumen@dhcp74.iglou.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:30 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["off to work"] 08:34 * dasunt leaves. 08:48 -!- dc0de [i=dc0de@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has quit ["off to customers"] 08:48 <@notlarry> Dagmar: When did you come down sick? 08:49 <@Dagmar> Friday 08:49 <@Dagmar> Any particular reason you're asking? 08:49 < ware> i saw this hot girl and she was standing on her head in the middle of a field singing hippie songs and eating magical glowing fungus so i ran up to her and said WWWWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE 08:50 <@notlarry> I think it came from nashville 08:50 <@notlarry> I came down with it Friday as well 08:50 * Dolemite closes his office door to keep out the sickos 08:51 <@notlarry> nobody here has it, but I spent the weekend down with it 08:51 <@Dolemite> give the NotWife and NotKids a nice welcome home hug and kiss 08:52 < ware> NotSick 08:52 < ware> im about over it 08:52 < ware> oh btw, Fool's Gold SUCKS giant donkey toe 08:52 <@baudburn> morning 08:52 < ware> although Matthew McConaughey and Kate Hudson are hot in it 08:53 * ware pinches baudburn's nipple 08:53 * ware feels great for a friday 08:53 < ware> err monday 08:53 < ware> SEE! shit. too much coffee too fast 08:53 <@baudburn> i tried to watch superbad this weekend 08:53 <@baudburn> it seemed mostly intolerable.. 08:54 <@baudburn> it was like they were trying to do a younger version of harold and kumar.. except without it being funny 08:54 < ware> i thought it was hilarious 08:54 < ware> ~google for harold and kumar escape bay 08:54 <@baudburn> i didn't get through it.. 08:54 <@baudburn> does it get better? 08:54 < ware> !google harold and kumar escape bay 08:54 < ohk> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0481536/ 08:54 < ware> when did you turn it off? 08:54 <@baudburn> because i got through when the cops show up at the liquor store 08:55 < ware> the middle to end was better 08:55 < ware> ah yeah up to that wasnt as good 08:55 <@baudburn> and b and i were like "uhmm.. this isn't really funny.. in fact it's mostly annoying" so we went to bed 08:55 <@baudburn> ahh 08:55 <@baudburn> ok, maybe we'll try to finish it then 08:55 < ware> it gets better when mclovin' got drunk 08:56 <@baudburn> i'll tell you what was an excellent movie 08:56 <@baudburn> Atonement 08:56 < ware> hahaha "MCLOVIN!!! WERE YOU ABOUT TO GET LAID?!" 08:56 < ware> havent seen that one. theres so many movies that have come out in the past 6-8 months that i havent seen 08:57 <@baudburn> i thought it was really awesome.. 08:57 -!- maxiez [n=MaxieZ@nat334.national-net.com] has left #se2600 [] 09:03 <@notlarry> Watched "the nines" last week. Strange movie... 09:03 <@Dolemite> yeah, quite odd 09:03 <@baudburn> ware: btw, i'm so looking forward to the new harold and kumar movie 09:03 <@Dolemite> I saw it yesterday 09:03 <@Dolemite> I also watched 'He Was a Quiet Man' 09:03 <@baudburn> never heard of either of those 09:03 <@Dolemite> I don't agree with imdb's classification of it as Comedy 09:04 <@Dolemite> It's drama all the way, and yes, quirky, but not at all comedy 09:04 <@Dolemite> I recommend 'He Was a Quiet Man' 09:04 <@baudburn> Dolemite: kind of like no country for old men was sort of comical? 09:04 <@Dolemite> ware would love it. There's reference to a Quadraplegic Blowjob. 09:05 <@Dolemite> baudburn : Dunno, didn't see it yet. 09:05 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:05 <@baudburn> Dolemite: i'll check it out 09:07 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 09:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 09:09 < ware> man all my friends didnt show up :( 09:09 < ware> its just me here. stupid 'sick' copout. 09:10 <@baudburn> huh? 09:10 < ware> 3 techs called out of work today cause theyre 'sick' 09:11 <@someninjaserver> baudburn: i played with an air at the apple store friday 09:11 < ware> when its really called 'we have no boss so in the interim we aint doin shit' 09:11 <@baudburn> someninjaserver: yeah, i did last weekend.. it's pretty insane 09:11 <@baudburn> how thin it is 09:11 <@someninjaserver> yeah 09:11 <@someninjaserver> and how light 09:11 <@baudburn> ya 09:12 <@baudburn> iLike 09:12 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has joined #se2600 09:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o nachoguy] by ChanServ 09:12 <@baudburn> ware: waq 09:12 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:19 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@74.93.113.209] has joined #se2600 09:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 09:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o SkyDog_] by ChanServ 09:27 <@baudburn> mornin, nachoguy 09:27 <@baudburn> nachoguy: was it you that lives in chicago? 09:27 <@baudburn> i know dem does now 09:43 <@polerin> meh 09:43 <@polerin> meh meh meh meh 09:46 -!- oddball [n=oddball@c-68-53-28-179.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o oddball] by ChanServ 09:55 <@polerin> oi oddball :) 09:57 <@someninjaserver> omfg its oddball 09:58 <@oddball> yeah, I've decided to pop back in 09:59 <@oddball> It helps that I have a new job that actually has me sitting infront of a computer again. :) 09:59 <@someninjaserver> that definatly helps 10:11 <@nachoguy> baudburn, indeed 10:18 <@SkyDog_> Morning all. 10:20 <@someninjaserver> sup skydog 10:23 <@Evilpig> i'm going to chi-town soon 10:25 <@baudburn> nachoguy: sweet.. chicago is one of my favorite cities 10:25 <@baudburn> one of the best in the US, i think 10:26 <@oddball> hey SkyDog_ 10:26 <@Evilpig> okay working in schools is bad... I think working in the hospital is worse though. I am getting creeped out sitting back here 10:29 < ware> whoop! Evilpig got my pally to 41 this weekend 10:29 <@baudburn> HAHA 10:30 <@Evilpig> I saw where you changed the guild message of the day 10:30 <@baudburn> the admin lady here just came on the PA and said "Attention everyone, we have a natural gas leak in the building.. please no smoking around the perimeter of the building" 10:30 <@oddball> Greeeeaaaaat 10:31 <@Dolemite> He's alive! 10:32 <@oddball> huh? what?! where?! 10:32 * oddball darts off 10:32 <@Dolemite> baudburn : I think if they had a natural gas leak *in* the building that you would be told to evacuate 10:32 <@SkyDog_> Holy shit! Oddball! 10:32 < ware> Evilpig: yeah i havent played on mal'ganis but im going to. once you figure out where the fuck to go lvling isnt so bad 10:32 <@SkyDog_> oddball: Do you have wizardPC in there too?!?! 10:33 <@baudburn> Dolemite: maybe they misspoke 10:33 <@baudburn> either way, it was funny 10:33 <@oddball> That fucker is hard as hell to track down 10:34 <@oddball> He called me up a week ago, and was saying that we hadn't spoken in forever. I responded "so, you in town?" "no" "see? that's why" 10:34 <@polerin> hehe 10:35 <@someninjaserver> haha 10:35 <@SkyDog_> you're not much easier to find. well, without calling you. 10:35 <@polerin> :P 10:35 <@polerin> Zomg might haz to make effort! 10:35 <@SkyDog_> Is he spending alot of time in St Louis? 10:35 <@SkyDog_> polerin: Sit down. i didn't pull your chain. :P 10:35 <@SkyDog_> It's just nice to see you again in IRC. 10:36 <@SkyDog_> What cha up to lately? 10:36 -!- twaldrop [n=twaldrop@dhcp68-152-acs.acs.internap.com] has joined #se2600 10:36 <@oddball> got new job 10:36 <@SkyDog_> where at? 10:36 <@someninjaserver> i think wizardpc is in a militia 10:36 <@polerin> SkyDog_: s'cuz you don't hold the other end of my chain :P 10:36 -!- twaldrop is now known as Shadow_Phone 10:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow_Phone] by ChanServ 10:36 <@someninjaserver> zomg its shawdow 10:36 <@SkyDog_> polerin: That was a direction I was NOT going :) 10:36 <@Shadow_Phone> meow 10:36 -!- Shadow_Phone was kicked from #se2600 by someninjaserver [oh shit] 10:36 <@baudburn> we're being evaced 10:36 -!- Shadow_Phone [n=twaldrop@dhcp68-152-acs.acs.internap.com] has joined #se2600 10:36 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow_Phone] by ChanServ 10:36 <@SkyDog_> RUN!!!! 10:36 <@Shadow_Phone> wtf 10:36 <@someninjaserver> nice 10:37 <@oddball> I'm the lone tech at a family counciling org 10:37 <@Dolemite> baudburn : don't rub your legs together on the way out, you may cause a spark! 10:37 <@Dolemite> oddball : Don't eat the stew 10:37 <@someninjaserver> haha 10:37 <@oddball> heh 10:37 <@polerin> SkyDog_: heh, YOU brought it up not me 10:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by Shadow_Phone 10:38 <@polerin> 10:38 <@Dagmar> KILl! 10:38 * someninjaserver thinks of baudburn flying through the air crouching tiger style ahead of the explosion 10:39 <@oddball> nice to see that Dagmar's world view hasn't changed 10:39 <@SkyDog_> oddball: not family and children's services? 10:39 <@Dagmar> Just a little cheesed after having to read through the tenant stuff in the TSCA again 10:39 <@oddball> and yeah, wizard has been spending most of his time in St. Luis 10:40 <@oddball> SkyDog_: they handle kids too, I believe. 10:40 <@Dagmar> One chick I sort of know is being evicted on questionable grounds, and claiming he's going to be keeping the deposit (ohnoyoudon't) and Jooline's landlord is dragging her feet about getting an electrical contractor in to fix the wiring in the dwelling so she actually has _electricity_ 10:41 <@SkyDog_> oddball: I knew that one of the guys that worked there before now works with ware. Didn't know if you filled his spot. 10:41 <@SkyDog_> So you liking it? 10:41 <@oddball> and once again, I find myself associated with a christian type organization 10:41 <@Dagmar> Eviction does _not_ put security deposits in forfeit. 10:41 <@oddball> SkyDog_: oh, no... this isn't a state position 10:41 <@SkyDog_> oddball: does that hurt? 10:41 <@SkyDog_> working for a christian orgainization... 10:42 <@oddball> hey, if I went to David Lipscomb without getting struck by lightening... 10:42 <@polerin> hee hee 10:42 <@polerin> it's sorta funny 10:43 <@polerin> I once got asked if I wanted to intern at the SBC's offices downtown 10:43 <@Shadow_Phone> sbc = lame 10:44 <@polerin> Shadow_Phone: .. I'm not sure you realize that at the time I was a rabid evangelical athiest ;) 10:44 <@polerin> well.. not evangelical 10:44 <@polerin> but you know what I meant 10:44 <@oddball> actually, the most painful thing is that I'm the first actual IT guy this place has had. So, I'm having to go through and figure out what fucked up things they've done, and how/if I can fix them 10:45 <@polerin> heh 10:45 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 10:45 <@polerin> that sounds like fun actually :P 10:45 <@nachoguy> oddball, love that 10:45 <@someninjaserver> sup jonnyx 10:45 <@Shadow_Phone> hiya jonnyx, hows the cleanup going? 10:46 <@SkyDog_> oddball: Man, that's the ultimate position. You get to cleanup the network and build it back the way that works. 10:46 <@oddball> such as the policy of changing email passwords every year... good... not allowing the users to change them themselves, so they email me what they want it changed to? 10:46 <@nachoguy> that's awesome 10:46 <@nachoguy> and real handy 10:47 <@ware> lame 10:47 <@Dagmar> that's just insanity 10:48 <@oddball> And after working at the NOC, walking into the server closet makes me want to scream. No racks, just servers piled up on each other and a mound of UPS's sitting next to them 10:48 <@Dagmar> Hey, at leasst they have UPSes 10:49 <@oddball> True 10:49 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, nice 10:49 <@Shadow_Phone> we dont let our customers place anythin powered up on the floor 10:49 <@someninjaserver> i want 11:15 to roll around i want some lunch 10:50 <@baudburn> ok, that was fun 10:50 <@oddball> Fortunately, we're planning on moving to a new location some time in the next year, so I'll get to start over from scratch. 10:50 <@baudburn> i'm not dead.. hurray 10:50 <@someninjaserver> hurray 10:50 <@Shadow_Phone> baudburn: did ware almost run into you on the highway? 10:50 <@oddball> This is always a good thing 10:51 <@baudburn> Shadow_Phone: we had a gas leak in the building 10:51 <@Shadow_Phone> eeek 10:52 <@Shadow_Phone> baudburn: we ran a test of the systems hvac system and during the test they run the smoke ventilators system 10:52 <@Shadow_Phone> jesus, i think the whole noc office was a mess, cause they forgot to close the vent to our rooms and all the papers went flying 10:52 <@Shadow_Phone> took about an hour to clean up 10:52 <@someninjaserver> that sounds like my office 10:53 <@baudburn> nice 10:53 <@someninjaserver> i have to tape everything down when the intake fan cuts on 10:54 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, i had a 28 page print out i was going over at the time and took me forever to find all the pages 10:58 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has joined #se2600 10:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Corydon76-lap] by ChanServ 11:01 <@Shadow_Phone> !minicity 11:01 <@brimstone> Population: 13020 Revenues: 3035700 Unemployment: 0% Transports: 100% Criminality: 0% Pollution: 0% 2397 ahead of beltegueuse 11:12 -!- timoguin [n=timoguin@cpe-098-026-113-031.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 11:12 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o timoguin] by ChanServ 11:12 <@I-MOD> http://www.instructables.com/id/Modular-Magmount-LED-Lighting/ 11:12 <@I-MOD> 11:14 -!- Psyiode` [n=bldahodu@ip72-208-119-236.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #se2600 11:14 <@polerin> I just found instructables the other day 11:14 <@polerin> I'm hooked 11:15 <@polerin> it was the LED pasties that got me though XD 11:15 <@I-MOD> heh 11:15 <@Dagmar> Ah daon't wanna know 11:15 <@baudburn> I-MOD: you wrote this one? 11:15 <@Shadow_Phone> oooooo, led pasties 11:15 <@I-MOD> yeah 11:15 <@Shadow_Phone> sounds like funs 11:15 <@I-MOD> the pics are in my apartment 11:15 <@baudburn> cool man 11:15 <@I-MOD> :D 11:16 <@I-MOD> it wasn't as much work as you might think, but it could definitely have been less 11:16 <@baudburn> how much do various non crappy LED's cost these days? 11:16 <@Dagmar> Not a whole damn lot 11:17 <@Dagmar> www.digikey.com 11:17 <@I-MOD> i got 240 LEDs, half red and half blue, along with all the required resistors for less than 80 11:17 <@baudburn> nice 11:17 <@Dagmar> It's the blues wot cost him 11:17 <@I-MOD> the magnets were $6 for 25 11:17 <@baudburn> you shoudl do the same thing using PWM for basic color mixing :) 11:17 <@I-MOD> actually, when you buy more than 100, the blues cost about the same as the red 11:18 <@I-MOD> baudburn, find me a controller than can handle 5A at 12V :P 11:18 <@I-MOD> that won't cost my soul or firstborn 11:19 <@Dolemite> baudburn : Just the man I need to ask a question... 11:19 <@baudburn> heh 11:19 <@nachoguy> I-MOD, my only recomendation would be to have a parts list 11:20 <@Dolemite> baudburn : I have a 3.3 V power source on a controller board. I want to hook up an analog temperature sensor. Do I need to put a resistor inline before it since it is, in effect, a variable resistor? 11:22 <@baudburn> Dolemite: is this a simple resistive style sensor? 11:22 <@Dolemite> Yes, and it's mostly linear in resistance throughout the sensing range. 11:23 -!- Psyiode [n=bldahodu@ip72-208-119-236.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:23 <@Dolemite> It has an input, an output, and an adjustment leg. 11:24 <@baudburn> it's probalby not going to be that big of a deal 11:24 <@Dolemite> I didn't think so, but wanted to ask someone more experienced 11:24 <@Dolemite> I think I just need to measure the output at some baseline temperatures to calibrate and then linearly extract from there. 11:25 <@baudburn> yeah, i mean, are there a lot of devices on that power rail? 11:25 <@Catonic> I-MOD: your lights are an utter hack. Other than that, it's functional, and looks neat. Good use of available resources. But there are better places in HSV to get the right parts. 11:25 <@Catonic> also, it needs to be battery-backed up. 11:25 <@Dolemite> baudburn : No, basically I'll have 2 temp sensors, possibly one IR range finder. The 5V rail will have an LCD display. 11:25 <@Dolemite> This is for my geekified kegerator. 11:27 <@baudburn> i think you should be alright without any regulation 11:27 * I-MOD adds a parts list 11:28 <@Catonic> I-MOD: w&w is closing... 11:28 <@I-MOD> indeed 11:28 <@baudburn> you could use a zener to do some basic shunt regulaton, if it became a problem.. 11:28 <@baudburn> but i'd say keep it simple, and if it's too unreliable, then ramp up the complexity 11:30 <@Dolemite> good call 11:31 <@baudburn> Dolemite: man, i miss doing EE 11:31 <@Dolemite> By the way, I picked up LEDs at Randolph & Rice here in Nashville for $0.40 each last week in 10-packs. 11:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 11:31 <@baudburn> Dolemite: i enjoy it more than software.. but software seems to pay my bills better 11:31 <@baudburn> Dolemite: thats' pretty sweet 11:31 <@Dolemite> The IR Range Finder is going to be the extremely challenging part of my project 11:32 <@Dolemite> More from a standpoint of figuring out the best way to mount it so that it will still hold pressure 11:32 <@I-MOD> baudburn, the supply I have can provide 5A, i have no problem with voltage stability 11:32 <@Dolemite> and, of course, I have no idea if it will work inside of a stainless steel cylinder filled with beer 11:32 <@Dolemite> ok, lunch time 11:33 <@baudburn> I-MOD: yeah, but LED's don't much matter.. the problem with Dolemite's setup is that it's sensitive to small voltage changes 11:33 <@baudburn> i think your LED trick is really cool man 11:33 <@I-MOD> thanks 11:34 <@I-MOD> better than christmas lights 11:34 <@I-MOD> LEDs don't burn out nearly as often and won't take down the entire strand 11:34 <@baudburn> i wonder how best you cold do PWM on a large number of LED's 11:35 <@I-MOD> i wonder how much a 60W transistor would cost... 11:36 <@Dagmar> I-mod: Check digikey's catalog 11:36 <@Dagmar> If you were wanting to build a laser that could shoot down planets, digikey could probably sell you _most_ of the parts. 11:38 <@baudburn> you'd also want some kind of difuser 11:38 <@baudburn> actually, what you'd really want is a tri-node LED 11:38 <@baudburn> but i bet those aren't cheap 11:39 <@I-MOD> not that much.... 11:39 <@I-MOD> baudburn, also, it'd be hard to control the color without 4 separate input leads 11:39 <@baudburn> yeah.. 11:39 <@I-MOD> err 3 input, plus a common 11:40 <@baudburn> right 11:40 <@baudburn> tapping the speaker wire was a cool idea 11:40 <@I-MOD> that was the hard part to figure out, cause we wanted to be able to place them anywhere along the wire and not have to mess with stripping insulation 11:41 <@I-MOD> real IPC assemblies are expensive 11:41 <@I-MOD> its just lucky for us the thumbtacks were the right combination of sharp, conductive, and ferromagnetic 11:42 <@baudburn> i didn't look that close at how it works 11:42 <@baudburn> let me go back and check it out 11:42 <@baudburn> i thought you were just doing a vampire ttype tap 11:42 <@I-MOD> looks like those transistors are not that expensive 11:42 <@I-MOD> baudburn, it is, but with thumbtacks 11:42 <@I-MOD> and the modules use magnets to pull current and attach to the tacks 11:43 <@baudburn> magnets to pull current? 11:44 <@I-MOD> yep, all current goes through the outer nickel shell of the magnet 11:44 <@baudburn> oh i get it 11:44 <@I-MOD> just serve as conductors, don't actually modify the current 11:44 <@baudburn> you push a tack through.. aand then stick the magnet to it 11:44 <@baudburn> ahh.. that's pretty cool 11:44 <@I-MOD> :D 11:45 <@I-MOD> and i can rearrange the modules at will 11:46 <@I-MOD> my kitchen is so red i could pull half the modules and use it as a dark room 11:46 <@baudburn> heh 11:51 <@ware> jesus this guy from impac is a dumbass fruit 11:51 * Corydon76-lap smacks ware 11:51 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:52 * ware smacks Corydon76-lap on the ass 11:52 <@ware> youre a smart fruit 11:52 <@ware> AND handsome! 11:53 <@Corydon76-lap> Yeah, whatever 11:53 <@ware> fistfuck the browneye? 11:54 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by Corydon76-lap [Gross] 11:54 -!- ware [i=w@u.NF] has joined #se2600 11:54 <@SkyDog_> OH, that's the black calling the kettle pot... 11:55 < ware> yeah i cant believe i made him blush twice 11:55 < ware> :P 11:56 <@Corydon76-lap> SkyDog_: the what? 11:56 <@SkyDog_> A bunkerism. 11:57 <@Corydon76-lap> Ah 12:02 <@Evilpig> nexr time i decide to irc and have lunch someone remind me of this so i don't do it 12:02 <@brimstone> no eating while ircing? 12:03 <@Evilpig> not with ware in the channel 12:03 < ware> BROWNEYEJUICE on ur burger 12:03 <@Evilpig> and not on ignore 12:03 < ware> im on ur irc fone, upsettin ur stomach 12:03 <@oddball> right.. I knew I forgot to do something 12:04 < ware> oh lamesauce 12:04 < ware> gtfover it 12:04 <@oddball> there... better 12:04 <@Evilpig> ooo oo was it sign onto irc in the last six months? 12:05 <@oddball> nope, forgot to /ignore ware 12:06 <@Evilpig> i prefer /kb ware douche 12:06 <@oddball> it was tempting 12:06 -!- ware is now known as ware_ 12:06 < ware_> omghai? 12:06 -!- ware_ is now known as ware 12:07 <@critch> ohh, hey, oddball, I picked up Zombie Flux on Friday. 12:07 <@polerin> is ware_ ware? 12:07 <@oddball> sweet! 12:07 <@Evilpig> yes 12:08 <@oddball> Naienko has told me that I can't buy it... which probably means that she intends to buy it for me in the near future 12:08 <@polerin> heh 12:10 <@Evilpig> this teriki cken is really dry 12:10 <@Evilpig> teriaki? 12:10 <@Shadow_Phone> teryaki 12:11 < ware> ddos 12:11 < ware> terri ichy. 12:11 * Shadow_Phone had to take a beginners japanesse class tomorrow cause he has a business meeting next week for 2 das 12:11 <@Shadow_Phone> *days in tokyo 12:11 <@Shadow_Phone> thats gonna be halarious 12:12 < ware> omfg hilarious 12:12 <@Shadow_Phone> they'll be half my height, (the clients that is) 12:12 * someninjaserver wants to learn japanese 12:12 <@Shadow_Phone> shut up you 12:12 < ware> are they flying you to tokoyo? 12:12 <@someninjaserver> and find a japanese girlfriend 12:12 <@Corydon76-lap> oddball: wb, btw 12:12 <@oddball> thanks 12:12 <@Shadow_Phone> yep, 2 days 12:12 <@Evilpig> corydon don't speak to the outcast 12:12 < ware> nice 12:12 <@Shadow_Phone> gonna have horrible jet lag 12:12 <@Shadow_Phone> but hey, new country 12:13 <@Shadow_Phone> first foreign business meeting so im nervous 12:13 <@critch> Shadow_Phone: think of it like a con, you stay up two nights straight, and then come back home 12:13 <@Shadow_Phone> oh god, but at least when im jet lagged/tired at a con i can be myself 12:13 <@Shadow_Phone> not on a business meeting 12:14 <@Corydon76-lap> Evilpig: his exile was self-imposed 12:15 <@Evilpig> how the fuck did i just get a new voicemail and my phone hasn't rang. stupid suckular 12:15 <@polerin> Corydon76-lap: I don't know what THAT is like :P 12:16 <@oddball> I've been with 3 different phone companies, all 3 have done that to me 12:16 <@Corydon76-lap> polerin: we all keep seeing you here, though 12:17 <@polerin> Corydon76-lap: yeah, well I returned sooner than oddball, though I left earlier 12:18 -!- shadow404 [i=shadow40@titan.blinkenshell.org] has joined #se2600 12:19 -!- Shadow_Phone [n=twaldrop@dhcp68-152-acs.acs.internap.com] has quit ["leaving"] 12:19 -!- shadow404 is now known as Shadow_Phone 12:19 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow_Phone] by ChanServ 12:20 <@Evilpig> did anyone ever fess up to having a picture of tzanger for the stats page? 12:20 <@polerin> Evilpig: you better not have put my pic up there :P 12:20 <@polerin> because I will hurt you. 12:20 <@someninjaserver> its already there 12:21 <@polerin> someninjaserver: who's. 12:21 <@someninjaserver> http://www.se2600.org/ircstats/pics/polerin-thumb.gif 12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> http://www.se2600.org/ircstats/pics/polerin-thumb.gif 12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> gar 12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> beat me 12:21 <@polerin> wilbur 12:21 * someninjaserver sits back and watches the battle ensue 12:21 <@polerin> I told you not to put jack shit up there. 12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> woot 12:21 <@polerin> take it down. Now. 12:21 <@Evilpig> that you did 12:22 <@polerin> you don't realize I have people fucking googling for me as it is, and I want to keep my image private. thanks. asshole. 12:22 <@polerin> I've already had major issues and I'm trying to contain them 12:22 <@polerin> one thing I never did was post my image 12:22 <@polerin> now you've done that. 12:23 <@polerin> not only that, but you linked it back to a picture of me pre transition. Which I explicitly told you not to do as well. 12:23 <@polerin> that was fucking rude. 12:23 <@Corydon76-lap> polerin: the image is tiny 12:24 <@polerin> I don't give a shit. 12:24 <@polerin> that's just rude. 12:24 <@Catonic> I hope the chickens never come home to roost. 12:24 <@Shadow_Phone> i just realized we need a battle dome at the next convention 12:24 <@Catonic> ware: you are the captain of the failboat. And you can't even be a decent buttpirate. 12:25 <@Catonic> two blue enter, one blue leaves? 12:25 < ware> i added you 12:25 <@Shadow_Phone> yep 12:25 <@Catonic> I am not having a blonde off. 12:25 <@polerin> Catonic: hehe 12:25 <@Shadow_Phone> that too 12:25 <@Shadow_Phone> Catonic: he kicked you so you get auto opped upon rejoin 12:25 <@Shadow_Phone> so rejoin already 12:25 <@Catonic> Shadow_Phone: I give a rats ass. 12:25 <@Shadow_Phone> dude, he wasnt being rude this time 12:25 * Catonic hands ware a rat's ass. 12:25 <@Shadow_Phone> and thats a rarity for ware 12:26 <@Shadow_Phone> ffs Catonic 12:26 <@Catonic> he'll just get drunk, throw a chair, and kick everyone.. 12:26 < ware> OMG IS THIS DRAMA MONDAY? 12:26 <@Shadow_Phone> well, thats un avoidable, but thats not what he did this time 12:26 < ware> FUCK I USED TO BE A MAN BUT I GOT A WEAVE AND GREW TITS, DONT TELL NOBODY 12:26 <@polerin> ugh. 12:26 <@polerin> and we wonder why people leave for long streaches of time 12:27 < ware> catonic: i dont have ops in here for a reason 12:28 <@Shadow_Phone> Catonic: besides, you can always do this if he gets annoying 12:28 -!- ware was kicked from #se2600 by Shadow_Phone [see] 12:28 -!- ware [i=w@u.NF] has joined #se2600 12:28 <@Shadow_Phone> makes everything better 12:29 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:29 <@Shadow_Phone> sigh, so dramaticv 12:29 <+coil> lol 12:30 <@Shadow_Phone> Evilpig: you couldnt of updated my picture a little, could ya? 12:30 <@Shadow_Phone> i got plenty i could send ya 12:30 <@Evilpig> one down, two to go 12:30 <@Shadow_Phone> huh? 12:30 <@Shadow_Phone> whos the other two? 12:31 <@Evilpig> if you want a different picture send me one 12:31 <@Evilpig> just needs a decent headshot cause 20x20 is fucking tiny 12:32 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, good 12:32 <@Shadow_Phone> working on it 12:34 <@Evilpig> heading back to the office now will cut it diwn to size if you have it to me by then 12:34 <@polerin> Evilpig: are you taking mine down? 12:35 * someninjaserver needs to be wearing a ninja mask in he 12:35 -!- MudFlap [n=mkeith@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 12:35 < ware> Catonic is too cool to hang anymore 12:36 <+coil> meow 12:38 * polerin sighs 12:40 <+coil> hi polerin 12:44 <@polerin> oi 12:45 -!- slam [n=slam@DCC.SEND.startkeylogger.000.telephreak.org] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:47 <@timoguin> polerin: he already took it down. 12:47 <@timoguin> err... nevermind. 12:47 <@polerin> heh 12:47 <@polerin> yeah I was about to say :p 12:54 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:54 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 12:54 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Client Quit] 12:54 <+coil> quit that shit catonic 12:54 -!- MudFlap [n=mkeith@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has joined #se2600 12:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 12:57 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:57 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 13:03 <@Shadow_Phone> Evilpig: can you crop this picture? 13:03 <@Shadow_Phone> http://img.geocaching.com/cache/log/9e4fe890-c38d-4dbe-b06e-345a827e3a2f.jpg 13:04 <+coil> Thank you for predicting the death of Britney, she'll appricatie it!! 13:04 <+coil> you think you're so funny Shadow_Phone 13:04 <@Shadow_Phone> yes i do 13:04 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 13:05 <+coil> i bet you were giggling like a little school girl 13:06 <@Shadow_Phone> heh 13:06 <+coil> it looks like it 13:06 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 13:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 13:07 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 13:07 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 13:21 <+coil> ~weather 38118 13:23 <@someninjaserver> i think the bots gone 13:24 <+coil> kinda realised that when i didn't get a response 13:25 <@Dagmar> yech. 13:26 <@Dagmar> That's the last time I take the recommended dosage of the antihistamines in the medicine cabinet at the office 13:26 <@someninjaserver> thats not a good idea 13:26 <@Dagmar> My lips are so dry it feels like I've been kissing sandpaper all morning. 13:26 <@Dagmar> _Burrrns_ 13:26 <+coil> no chap stick? 13:26 <@Dagmar> I have some at home, where I am now 13:26 <@Dagmar> Didn't do much good in the car where there wasn't any tho 13:32 <@Dolemite> nachoguy : What's the weather supposed to be up in your area tomorrow and Wednesday? 13:33 <@Dolemite> Oh, well, guess I'll check weather.com 13:33 <@Dolemite> damn. High of 23 tomorrow, 27 Wednesday for Urbana, IL. 13:33 * Dolemite packs the long underwear 13:34 <@Dolemite> The temperature in International Falls, Minnesota, fell to a record 40 below zero today, just a few days after the northern Minnesota town won a federal trademark making it officially the "Icebox of the Nation." 13:36 <@Shadow_Phone> weather.com is full of the most annoying ads in the world 13:36 <@Shadow_Phone> use weather.gov 13:36 <@Dagmar> I generally use wunderground 13:36 <@someninjaserver> or wunderground 13:36 <@Dolemite> and IRC is full of the most annoying people in the world, yet I still use it 13:36 <@Shadow_Phone> heh 13:36 <+coil> hi Dolemite 13:36 <@Shadow_Phone> dagmar 13:36 < ware> fag fuck flying fancy faggots fanny fornicate 13:36 <@Shadow_Phone> Dagmar: i got my weatherstation linked to wunderground 13:37 <@Dagmar> Coo. 13:37 <@Dagmar> l 13:37 <@someninjaserver> i need to set mine up 13:37 <@someninjaserver> i have everything here 13:37 <@Dagmar> I figured with as granular as their conditions reports are that they were taking data from anyone willing to give it 13:37 <@rhia> Sheriff Brody died .... least the shark didn't get him 13:37 <@Shadow_Phone> http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KGAPOWDE7 13:37 <@Shadow_Phone> thats my station 13:38 <@someninjaserver> what station are you using 13:38 <@Shadow_Phone> i also got a local web server up for it that updates every minute instead of 5 13:38 <@Shadow_Phone> http://bigblue.homeftp.net 13:38 <@Shadow_Phone> someninjaserver: an oregon scientific wmr968 wireless 13:39 <@Shadow_Phone> its in the banner pic of bigblue 13:39 <@someninjaserver> ah 13:39 <@someninjaserver> thats alot nicer than mine 13:40 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, we got it for christmas present from the parental units 13:40 <@someninjaserver> http://www.weatherpatrol.com/store-products-WS-2315-La-Crosse-Professional-Wireless-Weather-Center_12613610.html 13:40 <+coil> meow lawl shad 13:40 <@Shadow_Phone> my borhter and his wife got a wii 13:40 <@Shadow_Phone> they already stoppped playing 13:40 <@someninjaserver> i never play mine at home 13:41 <@someninjaserver> mine stays in a case for travel to other peoples houses 13:41 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, it works 13:41 <@Shadow_Phone> the weather station that is 13:41 <@someninjaserver> yeah 13:41 <@Shadow_Phone> i had to buy a usb to serial adapter for it 13:42 <@Shadow_Phone> and then overide the ports to be either port 1-4 13:42 <@Shadow_Phone> but windows was able to fix that easily enough 13:45 -!- shadowmoss [n=shadowmo@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 13:46 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o shadowmoss] by ChanServ 13:46 * brimstone pokes shadowmoss 13:46 <@brimstone> she dead? 13:46 <@shadowmoss> oof! 13:46 * shadowmoss pokes back 13:46 <@brimstone> it's alive! 13:46 <@shadowmoss> eek! run! 13:47 <@shadowmoss> oh, wait 13:47 <+coil> hi shadowmoss 13:47 <@shadowmoss> you mean I'm alive 13:47 <@shadowmoss> hey 13:47 <@shadowmoss> I'm bored at work so I decided to check in 13:47 <+coil> sweet 13:47 <@shadowmoss> what have I missed? 13:47 <@brimstone> coil's preggers 13:47 <+coil> nothing out the oridnary 13:48 * shadowmoss chases brimstone around and dumps him into the bit bucket 13:48 <+coil> put him in the tubes 13:48 <@brimstone> no, no bit bucket today :( 13:48 <@shadowmoss> brimstone: cool, anyone know the MF who got him that way? 13:48 <@brimstone> i got the crud that's going around 13:48 * shadowmoss dunks brimstone up and down to cover him with bits 13:48 <@shadowmoss> I had it last week 13:48 * brimstone shakes the bits off 13:49 <@shadowmoss> I'm sore, I went hiking yesterday with a full pack 13:49 <@shadowmoss> I can hardly move today 13:49 <@shadowmoss> oh, hey, I have a router question... 13:49 <@brimstone> ffr 13:50 <@shadowmoss> a guy I work with hooked up a Linksys wireless router to his network... 13:50 <@shadowmoss> and now has a 'nameless' entity that pulls an IP on his network 13:50 <@shadowmoss> he can name it, but can't connect to it 13:50 <@shadowmoss> he put the router between the cable modem and the 4 computers in his house, and this entity added itself 13:50 <@brimstone> is it nameless then? 13:50 <@shadowmoss> that was what he said 13:51 <@shadowmoss> he took the router away, and the entity dissappeared, puts the router back in and the entity is there 13:51 <@brimstone> maybe it's the neighbors? 13:51 <@shadowmoss> I'm thinking he uses wep, which would be difficult to break that quickly... 13:51 <@brimstone> heh 13:52 <@brimstone> wep, <5min 13:53 <@shadowmoss> I'm thinking this was immediate 13:53 <@shadowmoss> I was just wondering if the router puts a ghost entity on... 13:54 < ware> weeee 13:54 < ware> 2 hrs on the phone 13:54 < ware> no lunch 13:54 < ware> and im getting CRANKY. 13:54 <+coil> YAY THEY FIXED THE AC 13:54 < ware> so cranky in fact, i might just..... CRANK DAT SOULJA BOY! 13:55 * ware cranks dat soulja boy on coil 13:55 <@shadowmoss> some things don't change around here... 13:55 < ware> hugs* 13:55 < ware> where have you been 13:55 <@shadowmoss> :) 13:55 <+coil> ware was bad earlyer 13:56 < ware> fuck that 13:57 <@shadowmoss> how many rooms are reserved for OZ4 at this point? 14:00 <@ladymerlin> a bunch 14:00 <@shadowmoss> lm: good 14:06 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.42] has joined #se2600 14:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 14:09 <@timoguin> anyone tried compiling the POC code for the vmsplice exploit? 14:17 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gEt6pz2f4Q 14:17 <@Dolemite> Hrmm. If this sample test is any indication, the Linux+ certification is actually a pretty worthwhile introductory cert. 14:20 <@Catonic> I think I have one of those. 14:20 <+coil> so i should get that Dolemite ? 14:21 <@Dolemite> coil : It wouldn't hurt 14:21 <@Dolemite> Heh, I barely passed on my first run through the sample 14:21 <@Dolemite> I r smart! 14:22 <@SkyDog_> you is? 14:22 <@Dolemite> maybe? 14:24 <@Neoteric> > Your order has been shipped via our local delivery carrier. Online tracking information is unavailable for local delivery shipments. However, tracking will be unnecessary since a shipping agent will usually contact you within 48 hours to schedule an appointment for delivery. 14:24 < ware> email it to me 14:24 < ware> ill pass it 14:24 <@Neoteric> GO FASTER YOU ONLINE HDTV WHORE 14:24 <@Shadow_Phone> haha 14:25 <@Dolemite> Neoteric : What did you order? 14:25 <@Dolemite> ware : It's a CD image, yo. I ain't emailed 600 MB. 14:25 <@Dolemite> er, emailing 14:26 < ware> im curious about the comparison of what i think i know and what the industry says i need to know 14:27 <@Shadow_Phone> ow, co-worker just started a rubber band war at work 14:28 <@Shadow_Phone> i think i got my boss's bald head 3 times 14:28 <@shadowmoss> umm, Shadow_Phone , that might not be good for long-term employment prospects 14:28 <@Neoteric> Dolemite: the kickass! 14:29 <@Neoteric> Dolemite: sharp LC-46D64U http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=920851 14:29 <@Dolemite> Ah 14:29 <@Shadow_Phone> shadowmoss: nah, hes the one that started this 14:29 <@Shadow_Phone> and were all ganging up on him 14:29 <@baudburn> Neoteric: i have the 52 inch version of that tv. 14:30 <@Neoteric> it's the sweetness, but the samsung's w/ the backlit LED came very close 14:30 <@Neoteric> baudburn: I truely do hate you. 14:30 <@Neoteric> baudburn: :) 14:30 <@baudburn> Neoteric: you'd hate me more if you knew how much i paid for it. 14:30 <@Shadow_Phone> i got the best angle on th battlefield, got like a bunker the way my desk is situated 14:30 <@Neoteric> baudburn: don't tell me, I'm still in happy post-glow over the price I paid. 14:31 <@baudburn> :) 14:34 <@Dolemite> He got it for... 14:34 <@Dolemite> FITTY DOLLAH BILL! 14:35 <@Dolemite> (Like you didn't see that coming) 14:37 <@Shadow_Phone> ..... 14:37 <@Shadow_Phone> on that note, i watched rush hour 2 14:38 <@Shadow_Phone> not as good as the first 14:38 <@ShadowHntr> DO YOU UNDERSTAND... THE WORDS... THAT ARE COMIN' OUT OF MY MOUTH?!?!?!? 14:38 <@ShadowHntr> :) 14:38 <@Shadow_Phone> usually people dont understand me unless i type it 14:38 <@Shadow_Phone> but i mumble alot 14:41 < ware> fifty dahrrahs 14:41 <@Shadow_Phone> fa ra ra ra ra, la la la 14:41 <@Shadow_Phone> (christmas story) 14:43 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:47 <@someninjaserver> fihundrddolla 14:47 <@someninjaserver> bubble boy 14:56 <@Dagmar> Whoops 14:56 <@Dagmar> Louisville's getting a bit of snow 15:01 -!- ware is now known as jessica 15:01 < jessica> hai guyz! 15:02 <@Dagmar> I'll fix that 15:02 <@Dagmar> http://www.vgcats.com/news/boobs.gif 15:02 <@Dagmar> NSFW. 15:02 <@polerin> gee 15:02 <@polerin> really? 15:02 <@polerin> :P 15:02 <@Dagmar> Oh but it's hilarious 15:02 < jessica> i dont get it 15:03 <@Dagmar> I noticed this little entry on VGcats from the 4th that just said "Comic now. News post tomorrow. Boobs /forever/ _NSFW_." 15:03 < jessica> anyone want to cam? asl 15:03 -!- jessica is now known as ware 15:03 <@polerin> ... 15:03 <@Dagmar> I wasn't about to pull it up at work, but it was worth the wait to see it when I got home. Hehe 15:04 <@polerin> yeah dag, wanna cam? ;p 15:04 <@Dagmar> I could stream raw MPG from here. heh 15:04 <@Dagmar> Yay MythTV 15:05 <@Dagmar> ivtv ftw 15:06 < ware> :D 15:06 < ware> hes got me on ignore anyways 15:06 <@polerin> I'm sure you could 15:08 <@Dolemite> until Comcast's net sniffing filters realized that you were streaming copyrighted content! 15:09 <@polerin> :P 15:09 <@Dagmar> That would be *my* copyrighted content since I have a camera here 15:09 <@Dagmar> Some old Panasonic Eggcam that has composite output, in as channel 1 on the MythTV box 15:10 <@Dolemite> Dagmar : When has the true ownership of content concerned the filter police? 15:10 <@Dagmar> Damn. Wowarmory doesn't show PvP/Battlegrounds kills 15:11 <@Dagmar> nevermind. If they showed that it might break down by the type of kills and then I would get into some trouble 15:12 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: This weekend in between taking cold pills, I sat down and tried battlegrounds. I found something that really, _really_ pisses off the other faction 15:12 <@rattle> Dagmar: I saw your post about Comcast and cable cards.. 15:12 <@Dagmar> rattle: Yeah, it's annoying as hell of a situation 15:12 <@polerin> dag: you've an issue? 15:12 <@Dagmar> Hauppage is about our only hope right now 15:13 <@rattle> Been having similar issues.. I got my folks a Series 4 Tivo.. And Comcast is so fucked up where they are, that the cards die after about a week.. 15:13 <@Dagmar> polerin: Yeah. no Linux drivers for CAMs seem possibe; 15:13 <@polerin> nope 15:13 <@polerin> because it's limited by Cable labs 15:13 <@polerin> and they won't certify any device that will work outside of a highly DRM'ed enviornment 15:13 <@rattle> And they refuse to fucking give them out without having a tech come out and install them.. 15:13 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: I made macros of each healer I saw, and bound them all to the G keys on my keyboard. 15:13 <@rattle> Really annoying. 15:14 <@polerin> rattle: uh, yeah. Duh? 15:14 <@polerin> :P 15:14 <@polerin> actually theres a reason for that 15:14 -!- dc0de [i=dc0de@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org] has joined #se2600 15:14 <@polerin> the cable cards require initialization 15:14 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: So, they really, get pissed when you kill off most of their healers one after the other 15:14 <@polerin> which customer service can't do 15:14 <@Dolemite> Dagmar : I don't know why you keep directing that at me. I made no reference to your WoW playing. 15:14 <@rattle> polerin: So what's so hard about calling in, giving them the card's hostid, and having them activate it? 15:15 <@Dagmar> Dolemite: Because this is wayyyy more violent than anything I ever saw in Guild Wars 15:15 <@polerin> rattle: to be honest we don't even directly DO anything with the host id at the time of install 15:15 <@polerin> it's entered into the DAC later 15:15 <@Dagmar> polerin: See, I kinda have a problem with it when something's supposed to open up competition, but can't actually introduce new competitors 15:16 <@polerin> Dagmar: talk to the FCC 15:16 <@polerin> trust me I agree 15:16 <@Dagmar> I'm still digging to make sure I don't overlook anything before I write 'em 15:16 <@Dagmar> like they'll give a damn what I have to say 15:16 <@polerin> though they aren't going to agree, because they will say you can buy a third party device that can use the cable card now 15:17 <@polerin> you aren't 15:17 <@polerin> :/ 15:17 <@polerin> trust me I looked 15:17 <@polerin> I was pissed 15:17 <@Dagmar> The problem there is that the same people still completlely control the media. 15:17 <@polerin> ... duh? 15:17 <@polerin> :P 15:17 <@Dagmar> If Comcast wanted to specify that the DVRs ran ads on the program guide screens, they'd have to 15:17 <@Dagmar> You don't get to backup the files. 15:18 <@polerin> actually, they already d run ads 15:18 <@polerin> not on the tivos, that's a whole different ball of wax 15:18 <@Dagmar> You've really got no guarantee at all, that should you stop being a customer, that you'll ever be able to access any of that again 15:18 <@polerin> but there are cable card enabled tivo's 15:19 <@Dagmar> ...which will fight you tooth and nail to prevent you getting the recordings out of the thing. 15:19 * oddball watches the Dalek vs Mechman Dr. Who episode 15:19 <@polerin> I agree 15:20 <@Dagmar> That's wack 15:20 <@baudburn> there's a simple solution to this problem 15:20 <@polerin> that's not the point 15:20 <@Dagmar> They've made what would normally be fair use a technical impossibility 15:20 <@baudburn> quit watching tv. 15:20 <@polerin> the point is that it's SUPPOSED to be hard to get the recordings off 15:20 <@baudburn> it's a waste of your time and money 15:20 <@polerin> because they don't want you to have control over it 15:20 <@Dagmar> Obviously. 15:20 <@polerin> it's THEIR content 15:20 <@polerin> it's THEIR bloodmoney 15:21 -!- desertc [n=mmm@ubuntu/member/desertc] has joined #se2600 15:21 <@polerin> so why in hell do you think the'd make it so an open source, cheap, powerfull tool can actually even think about touching it? 15:22 < desertc> heard about the recent Anonymous events? 15:22 <@Dagmar> Not too many details 15:23 < desertc> Found this video recording one amusing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKQ75F0XsA 15:23 < desertc> -one 15:23 <@polerin> desertc: what, are /b/ and /i/ acting up again or... what? 15:24 < desertc> I haven't followed it too closely, but I heard there were anti-scientology events going on in a bunch of cities. some guy made the claim there were 14,000 people with Guy Fawkes masks on in downtown Portland yesterday 15:24 <@polerin> oh yeah 15:24 <@polerin> I forgot about that 15:24 <@polerin> haha 15:24 < desertc> uh, made the claim in an irc channel, so who knows 15:25 < desertc> but people are saying it's hackers vs. scientology, so figured you all might be pulling off a caper or two -- not that I'd even ask if it were true. ;) 15:26 < desertc> http://www.scientology-ccnashville.org 15:26 <@polerin> it's not not jsut hackers, though I'd be supprized if they wern't involved too :p 15:26 <@Dagmar> Well, that's like two blocks from the office 15:27 <@Dagmar> ...so if craptons of people do that in Nashville I think we'll notice. 15:27 < desertc> http://digg.com/world_news/Nashville_Anons_Take_on_Church_of_Scientology 15:28 < desertc> That story just hit Digg twenty-two hours ago 15:28 <@Dagmar> Looks like not a lot of people 15:29 <@rhia> sure there must be some association, but Feb 10 just doesn't seem to be the same as Nov 5 15:30 <@Dagmar> 40 people it says 15:30 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o dc0de] by ChanServ 15:30 <@dc0de> who here runs their own syslog servers? 15:41 <@SkyDog_> http://www.outerz0ne.org/forum/ 15:42 < ware> OMG FIRST POST?! 15:43 < ware> Please enter a valid email! No mail server seems to exist at www.no.ob 15:44 < desertc> http://www.partyvan.info/index.php/Project_Chanology/Raid_Archive/2008-02-10 15:44 < desertc> Neat! 15:44 < desertc> They held protests in dozens of cities yesterday. 15:46 < desertc> cya! 15:46 -!- desertc [n=mmm@ubuntu/member/desertc] has left #se2600 ["Ex-Chat"] 15:46 <@brimstone> dc0de: i think your brother is on the maintance crew in our building today 15:46 <@brimstone> cuz he looks just like you 15:47 <@baudburn> why are they hating on scientology? 15:47 -!- SkyDog_ changed the topic of #se2600 to: http://www.outerz0ne.org/forum/ | Mar 21-22, 2008 @ The Hyatt Place Atlanta Galleria | Call 770-384-0060 and use group name "Outerz0ne" to reserve rooms ($79/night) 15:47 <@Dolemite> Maybe it's dc0de 15:47 <@Dolemite> baudburn : I take it that you haven't done any research on Scientology? 15:48 <@polerin> baudburn: because it's beyond a belief, they go out of their way to actively harm people 15:48 <@baudburn> Dolemite: i don't do religion 15:48 <@Dolemite> Because even scraping the surfce will reveal a lot of reasons why people oppose it. 15:48 <@baudburn> polerin: how do they harm people? 15:48 <@Dolemite> It's the largest legalized cult in the world, though some countries have specifically outlawed it. 15:48 <@baudburn> i know its a crazy cult 15:48 <@baudburn> but i dont know why 15:49 <@polerin> baudburn: planting child porn on a critic's computer and then calling the fbi? 15:49 <@Dolemite> baudburn : There is some pretty damning evidence that they engage in kidnapping 15:49 <@Dolemite> 'nuff said 15:49 <@polerin> that too 15:49 <@baudburn> Dolemite: buh? 15:49 <@baudburn> polerin: buh? 15:49 <@baudburn> really? 15:50 <@polerin> yeah. 15:50 <@Dolemite> Yes 15:50 <@rhia> not to mention a "private" deal they made with the IRS 15:50 <@nachoguy> There was that bit about how the people that oppose scientology end up on posters claiming that they are child molesters 15:50 <@rhia> which is coming under "deep skepticism" from the 9th circuit court of appeals 15:51 <@baudburn> private deal? 15:53 <@dc0de> /back 15:54 <@dc0de> sorry brimstone, not in Nashville today 15:54 <@dc0de> can anyone look at their syslog servers and give me an "average" message size? 15:55 <@SkyDog_> Heh. 15:55 <@SkyDog_> We're not going to start discussing what is 'average' again, are we? 15:55 < ware> dc0de: 42 15:56 <@dc0de> SkyDog_ just trying to configure a logging solution for a million events per day... 15:56 <@polerin> SkyDog_: hey, we all know size matters to some extent, though it's configuration and user skill that keeps a server up and running. 15:56 <@dc0de> need a rough number to use as the assumption 15:56 <@SkyDog_> Heh. 15:56 <@SkyDog_> Were that I ran a syslog server, I would tell ya. 15:56 <@critch> dc0de: looks like my logs average about 86 chars per line. But it looks like the only thing hitting syslog is cyrus 15:57 <@dc0de> heh. 15:57 <@dc0de> I'm trying to look at my old logs... 15:57 <@dc0de> or fuck it, I'll just setup my old shit again. 15:58 <@critch> dc0de: looks like my webserver has a 185 char line average 15:58 < ware> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y246/ataribot/in%20ur/SCRATCHING-monkey.jpg 15:58 <@critch> thats just due to the long length of some cron commands. 15:58 <@dc0de> critch so the whole message on the wire would be ~200k? 15:59 <@critch> That I don't know. I don't know what it would look like on the wire. But I would be it is more likely bytes not k per entry 16:00 <@dc0de> doh, yeah, my head is wrapped up in KB atm... 200bytes perhaps. 16:00 <@critch> Well, IP would add about 40 more bytes, plus there is the extra information about the service. I would say closer to 250 maybe 16:00 < arafatm> hey critch 16:01 <@critch> whats up 16:01 <@dc0de> rgr thanks critch 16:01 < arafatm> i liked your writeup on the ruby app in nlug-talk 16:01 <@critch> yeah, was bored, and that was fun to talk about since I was still excited about it 16:01 < arafatm> :) 16:02 < arafatm> You know about #nashdl? 16:02 <@critch> yeah, but I really shouldn't be in here that much either 16:02 < arafatm> aight :) 16:04 <@critch> anyone have a suggestion for a IP KVM that they have used? 16:07 <@SkyDog_> Avocent 16 port autoview. 16:07 <@SkyDog_> I ahve one here at Vandy, and it rocks. 16:08 -!- Dolemite [n=scott@70.43.59.190.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:11 * polerin grumbles and puts her hat on because she feels like it darnit 16:14 <@rhia> role reversal - baby kisses politician: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=42511§ionid=3510203 16:17 <@critch> SkyDog_: for that price tag, it better be able to provide more than rocks. Damn it is expensive 16:17 <@SkyDog_> It is, but the interface is quite nice. You're welcome to come check it out and test drive it. 16:19 <@critch> I don't know that we could justify the cost. It would take many emergency runs to the colo facility to equal the cost of that KVM. 16:22 <@critch> price is better outside of their website, but still $1600 for the switch and 8 cables. 16:23 <@SkyDog_> True. On the other hand, it gives you the ability to touch them from a distance more often. How many times will you be able to do something faster because you don't have to drive over? 16:23 <@SkyDog_> I would not argue the price. 16:23 <@SkyDog_> I just like being able to hit it from the office, and not have to go upstairs. 16:24 <@critch> being that we run primarily linux boxes, the need to be hands on is rare as it is. maybe a few times a year. 16:28 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@74.93.113.209] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 16:28 -!- MudFlap [n=mkeith@66.64.202.66.nw.nuvox.net] has quit [] 16:29 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@74.93.113.209] has joined #se2600 16:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 16:33 < ware> anyone have tips for remotely rebooting windows servers 16:33 < ware> ive had more shit lock up due to waiting on a click 16:34 < ware> then it just sits there 16:34 < ware> i need to tsshutdown -r -f or something 16:35 < ware> dammit if this box doesnt come back someone is getting jizz in thier hair 16:44 < ware> rofl 16:44 * ware is off to the colo 16:44 < ware> son of a bitch 16:45 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@74.93.113.209] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:54 * sdodson lulz at ware 16:54 <@sdodson> ware: switched pdus 16:58 <@Shadow_Phone> hahaha 16:58 <@Shadow_Phone> switched pdus are the best 16:58 <@Shadow_Phone> especially when it saves you the 2 minute walk to the data center from your desk 16:58 <@Shadow_Phone> cause your to lazy to get up and power cycle it by hand 16:59 -!- Shadow_Phone was kicked from #se2600 by sdodson [cause your to lazy] 16:59 <@sdodson> fucking moron 16:59 <@sdodson> i understand it may be hard to find the ' on a phone but atleast say youre 16:59 -!- Shadow_Phone [i=shadow40@titan.blinkenshell.org] has joined #se2600 16:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Shadow_Phone] by ChanServ 16:59 <@Shadow_Phone> and your point? 17:00 <@sdodson> your to dum 17:01 <@baudburn> for the record.. you managed to screw up every single word of that sentence.. 17:01 <@Shadow_Phone> i just hate filling out the rfo reports for temp. power outages when its because i had to upgrade or make a change 17:01 <@baudburn> "you're too dumb" would be correct 17:01 <@Shadow_Phone> whatever 17:01 * sdodson hears a whoosh sound in the general area above baudburn's head 17:01 <@rhia> baudburn: believe that was the specific point 17:02 <@sdodson> Shadow_Phone: What is RFO? 17:03 <@rhia> baudburn: similar to "u dun gots sum gud edukashun' 17:03 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 17:03 <@Shadow_Phone> reason for outage 17:04 <@baudburn> oi, my mistake 17:04 <@rhia> baudburn: you just suffer from thinking too much - doesn't work too well in here 17:05 <@baudburn> oh well 17:05 <@baudburn> time to go home 17:05 <@baudburn> later 17:06 <@Catonic> wow... 17:06 * Shadow_Phone hates server migrations 17:06 <@Catonic> wild.. 17:06 <@Catonic> life has a funny way... 17:07 <@Shadow_Phone> well, explain 17:07 <@Catonic> the same shuttle that I communicated with some 14 years ago, is the same shuttle I supported when I worked for the agency during the return to flight, and the same one that jonnyx, decius, and palindrome saw on july 4. 17:07 <@Shadow_Phone> nice 17:07 <@sdodson> Were you on the same planet as those people too? 17:08 < ware> sdodson: we have access to the kvm over ip 17:08 < ware> just no one told me how to use it 17:08 <@Catonic> sdodson: most of them ;) 17:08 < ware> and the tech that set it up wouldnt answer 17:08 < ware> and no one else knows how to get into it 17:08 <@sdodson> Everyone except jonnyx, I guess. 17:08 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: how far away is the colo? 17:08 < ware> fucking waste 17:08 <@Catonic> lol 17:08 < ware> im here now 17:08 < ware> 12 min 17:08 <@Shadow_Phone> and could you open a remote hands ticket/ 17:08 <@Shadow_Phone> and which colo facility is this? 17:08 <@sdodson> I'm not sure how much use a switched pdu is with windows if you lack virtual media. 17:08 <@sdodson> Can you pxeboot winpe? 17:09 < ware> Shadow_Phone: its a pos one ive already told you this 17:09 <@Shadow_Phone> so they dont do remote hands? 17:09 <@Shadow_Phone> heh 17:09 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has joined #se2600 17:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o GodFix] by ChanServ 17:09 <@sdodson> Shadow_Phone takes pride in being someone's remote hands. 17:09 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, i did colocation services for 8 months 17:09 <@Shadow_Phone> was quite fun 17:10 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@65.199.13.42] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:14 <@Catonic> sdodson: it beats the stranger. 17:15 <@sdodson> We should order a colo slot in Shadow_Phone's workplace and put an fufme in there and order onsite hands 17:15 <@GodFix> what's the 1st thing to remember when planning a con? 17:16 <@rhia> GodFix: i'd say "plan" 17:17 <@rhia> after running atlantacon ... 17:17 <@rhia> but what kind of specific advice are you asking? 17:17 <@GodFix> looking for "Teh n00bs guide to planning a con" 17:17 <@Catonic> she's got a point 17:18 <@Catonic> have a plan. stick to it. use the cattleprod for everything else. 17:18 <@sdodson> I say wing it. 17:18 <@GodFix> I was talking with a friend in MS about doing a con there 17:18 <@sdodson> If it doesn't come naturally do something else. 17:18 <@rhia> 1. - what kind of con? 2. how long will it run? 3. who is your target audience? those give you the basis on which to ask further questions 17:19 <@rhia> a 1 day commercial con is very different from a weekend geekfest type con, etc etc 17:19 <@GodFix> 1. netsec/infosec 2. weekend 3. freaks, geeks and nerds. ppl with money or that represent ppl with money 17:20 <@rhia> hotels, price ranges, commercial backing or out of pocket, 17:20 <@GodFix> looking for corporate vendors to have tables and booths setup 17:20 <@GodFix> checking for a suitable hotel in that area 17:21 <@rhia> need a decent hotel - price range can influence guests attending, a 'free-ish' weekend (not scheduled against or immd before or after a BIG con, etc etc 17:21 <@GodFix> hilton and free-ish 17:21 <@GodFix> good point, I remember the scheduling from doing concert promotions 17:22 <@rhia> GodFix: that will most likely take at LEAST 4 months to pull off - if you work your ass off and everything, & i mean EVERYTHING goes your way ... we started planning the 1st con a yr in advance, the next one about 9 months in advance - after that, if it continues to roll, you've learned enough to roll your own 17:23 <@GodFix> rhia: So JSec '09 is in it's planning stages now 17:23 <@rhia> skypup pulled off his relatively quickly, but his didn't start at the level you're considering 17:24 <@GodFix> after OZ wraps up, would anyone care to, or be able to help out? 17:24 <@rhia> sponsors need reassurances, etc - and then they have to go back thru their own channels, etc - hotel needs to be confirmed, booked, conference rooms nailed down, etc 17:25 <@sdodson> Didn't skydog do a talk on just this very topic? 17:25 <@rhia> and 'people with money or representing people with money' usually need a lot of lead time to plan (iow, finagle how to expense it) 17:26 <@GodFix> sdodson: at the LAST OZ I think 17:26 <@sdodson> i thought oz talks were online? 17:27 <@rhia> GodFix: make a plan, with lots of space after each item, then drill down to the smallest detail you can think of - price, rooms, advertising, who talks to management ( you don't want a whole slew of people talking to the hotel, etc) 17:28 <@rhia> and if skypuppies talk is online - or dolemite's info on it - pull it down 17:28 <@ladymerlin> its online 17:28 <@sdodson> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3725833682828144830&q=skydog&total=100&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2 17:29 <@GodFix> sweet, watching it now 17:29 <@rhia> ladymerlin: tack 17:29 <@rhia> GodFix: and never discount security 17:31 <@rhia> btw, noone ever spotted the security at either of our cons ... came across a group asking One Of Our Security Guys if HE thought that this or that person could be a Fed or security 17:32 <@rhia> we wanted ours to be both 'staff security' and 'undercover security' - one for the game, two for ease of finding the jackasses who like fricking up cons for "fun" 17:34 <@sdodson> I thought that was the target audience of most cons 17:34 <@rhia> er, one of our 'undercover' security guys ... and the others were even better - tommy pickles asked one to 'look out' for security at one point 17:35 <@rhia> sdodson: no, hacking a con is one thing, fricking one up is quite another (trashing the hotel, getting the cops called for abject stupidity, etc) 17:35 <@GodFix> 17:35 <@rhia> hacking a hacker con is ... expected - and usually welcomed 17:36 -!- GodFix [n=chatzill@h69-21-239-226.69-21.unk.tds.net] has left #se2600 [] 17:38 <@rhia> btw, the capture the flag contest that hacksec ran was 'unofficially' won by our lead security guy - in less that 1 hr - he handed me an envelope to give to angus that had the password to angus' servers (that 'guy' had changed) and his nick 17:39 <@rhia> angus read it and just yelled out a string of obscenities then laughed - he knew the guy and said "no fair!" 17:40 <@rhia> and no, he hasn't gone to other cons and no, he doesn't want me to say who he is ... working for the feds at the level he did ... well, we signed an agreement 17:40 <@rhia> but, we had fun 17:42 <@rhia> ahhh... the good ol' days 17:46 <@Catonic> wewt. And the astronaut replied to the email. 17:52 < ware> HELO from SkyDog_'s office! 17:53 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: beat ware. 17:54 <@Catonic> make him your whipping boy for greg. 17:54 <@Shadow_Phone> among other things 17:54 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:58 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 17:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 18:01 <@someninjaserver> evening all 18:01 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 18:13 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 18:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 18:15 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig: *ping* 18:33 <@ShadowHntr> *yawn* 18:42 -!- Stefanie_TN [n=chatzill@c-68-52-233-201.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:42 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Stefanie_TN] by ChanServ 18:42 <@SkyDog_> needing a ride ShadowHntr? 18:43 <@SkyDog_> heya stef! 18:43 <@Stefanie_TN> Heya! 18:43 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: nope 18:43 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: ? 18:43 < ware> ShadowHntr: wheres my bottle of Crown!? 18:43 <@ShadowHntr> lol 18:43 <@ShadowHntr> ware: wed or thurs a good day to catch up with you? 18:44 < ware> thurs ill be in cookeville, maybe wednesday 18:45 -!- Corydon76-lap [n=Corydon7@pdpc/supporter/bronze/Corydon76-home] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:15 -!- nachoguy [i=boster@ivan.dreamhost.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 19:36 -!- nightcarnage_ [n=tom@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 19:36 <@someninjaserver> hello nightcarnage_ 19:38 < nightcarnage_> hello just lurking. i should visit here more. 19:39 -!- nightcarnage_ [n=tom@c-68-52-192-120.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:50 < ware> who dat? 19:51 <@Shadow_Phone> the feds 19:52 <@timoguin> ugh... 19:52 <@timoguin> so who all has had fantastic experiences with wardrivingworld? 19:53 <@ladymerlin> me 19:53 <@timoguin> because they're starting to piss me off 19:53 <@ladymerlin> skydog 19:53 <@timoguin> i know brimstone has too 19:53 <@ladymerlin> why 19:53 <@SkyDog_> What's the problem? They have always taken good care of me. 19:53 <@timoguin> i paid for a wireless kit on the 14th 19:53 <@timoguin> the firmware was bad 19:53 <@timoguin> so i emailed them and told them of the error, and they said to send it back 19:54 <@timoguin> so i asked them how i should ship it (didn't really want to pay shipping) 19:54 <@timoguin> so they mailed me a prepaid slip 19:54 <@timoguin> had to wait a week just for the slip 19:54 <@timoguin> then i sent the card back to them 19:54 <@timoguin> wait a week and a half 19:55 <@timoguin> then i emailed them this morning asking what the status of the exchange was 19:55 <@timoguin> now i just got an email where they refunded my money and shit 19:55 <@timoguin> so i emailed saying i didn't want a refund, just a new card... 19:55 <@timoguin> so it's been a month and i still don't have a working card. 19:56 <@timoguin> i thought they might have been sending the new card along with the prepaid packing slip 19:56 <@timoguin> if i had known they weren't then i would have just paid the shipping myself rather than delay the transaction another week 19:57 <@timoguin> 19:57 <@SkyDog_> Well, they will not send another without getting yours back first. That's just pure business. 19:57 <@SkyDog_> They are good guys though. 19:58 <@timoguin> i understand that. 19:58 <@timoguin> i just wish they would have communicated with me 19:59 <@timoguin> i could have just dropped 4 bucks to send it back in the first place and it taken less than a week 19:59 <@timoguin> instead they automatically assumed i just wanted a prepaid packing slip so it would take 2 weeks to get the card back to them 20:00 <@timoguin> and then they just automatically refunded my money and requested a mutual withdraw request on ebay rather than just send me a new card 20:00 <@timoguin> that's why most companies have RA numbers. 20:00 <@timoguin> keeps things organized 20:02 <@timoguin> anyone have a phone number for them? 20:06 <@SkyDog_> I have a number, bit it's for the owner. 20:06 <@SkyDog_> I can't give that out. 20:06 <@timoguin> yea, don't worry about it 20:06 <@timoguin> i'll just wait for an email response 20:06 <@timoguin> and then another week to get the card... 20:09 <@timoguin> meh... 20:09 <@timoguin> going home. 20:09 <@dc0de> drive carefully... or not. 20:10 <@timoguin> i live right around the corner. 20:10 <@dc0de> then walk safely. 20:12 -!- LastChild [n=LastChil@A041134.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #se2600 20:22 -!- squirrelt3rd [n=non3@c-76-18-185-218.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:22 -!- squirrelt3rd [n=non3@c-76-18-185-218.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:22 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o squirrelt3rd] by ChanServ 20:22 < ware> sup bush 20:23 <@SkyDog_> you sq. 20:24 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 20:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 20:24 <@SkyDog_> yo squirrelt3rd 20:25 * brimstone decreases the number of SkyDog_'s outbound connections 20:25 <@SkyDog_> derf! 20:28 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 ["I'm not here right now."] 20:32 <@dc0de> well, I'm off to bed early... i'm way tired. 20:32 <@dc0de> l8r all. 20:39 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 20:40 <@squirrelt3rd> sup ya'll 20:40 <@squirrelt3rd> i'm a little slow 20:40 <@sdodson> no, really? 20:41 <@squirrelt3rd> you know what 20:42 <@squirrelt3rd> skydog: what was the site you showed me the other day that had the electronics 20:43 <@squirrelt3rd> oh yeah and the name of the flash drives you have for the raid. i don't i logged your answer.... 20:54 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit ["who's life in rain?"] 21:10 <@ladymerlin> squirrelt3rd: there kingston 1 gig micro SD cards 21:11 <@brimstone> they're? 21:18 <@Mirage> there're 21:18 <@Mirage> their? 21:19 < LastChild> thar 21:19 <@Mirage> smartass 21:20 * LastChild bows 21:23 <@Mirage> http://www.worth1000.com/entries/367500/367511TYcX_w.jpg 21:24 < LastChild> Voice of experience? 21:24 <@juice> hi 21:25 <@Mirage> seemed fitting 21:27 < LastChild> You could have shared this information before I got engaged 21:28 <@Mirage> you brought it on yourself 21:29 <@Mirage> waste some time on these: http://www.geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/index.html 21:30 < LastChild> Eh, I got tired of the perpetual Carpal Tunnel 21:30 <@Mirage> http://www.worth1000.com/entries/301000/301468UAcY_w.jpg 21:32 <@juice> hey Mirage where did you get your laptop hd 2 usb adapter? 21:36 <@Mirage> the one i had at PN i got off ebay a few years ago. 21:36 <@Mirage> I picked up a new one a couple months ago that's esata/usb and takes both ide and sata hdd's. 21:37 <@SkyDog_> I have one of those. 21:37 <@SkyDog_> they are pretty cool. I used it to ghost a drive earlier. 21:38 <@juice> ic 21:39 <@Mirage> i got it mainly for doing recovery on laptop drives for Jason. I got tired of having to pull my drive out and swap each time, plus you never know which connection i'll need 21:40 <@juice> what that cost for the dual? 21:40 <@Mirage> $39, I believe 21:40 <@juice> k 21:40 <@brimstone> if it only did firewire too... 21:41 <@Mirage> Yeah, that's why I got my old one, it has firewire and usb 1.1/2.0 21:43 <@Mirage> what sucks is that i can't find my esata connector for my board. it's packed somewhere, just not sure where 21:59 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:59 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 22:06 -!- Stefanie_TN [n=chatzill@c-68-52-233-201.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]"] 22:23 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 22:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 22:33 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-38.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 22:47 <@dasunt> Bored. 22:51 <@ShadowHntr> me too 22:52 <@ShadowHntr> trying to see if opensuse has a yum-type utility to update from repositories 22:52 <@sdodson> yast? 22:52 <@ShadowHntr> command-line preferably 22:52 <@sdodson> I think all of the yast tools have command line interfaces 22:52 <@ShadowHntr> hmmm... 22:52 <@ShadowHntr> i need to get more documentation 22:53 <@ShadowHntr> found it 22:53 <@ShadowHntr> thanks 23:11 <@ShadowHntr> fun 23:11 <@ShadowHntr> fender bender right outside my house. 23:34 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-38.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 23:37 < ware> w00t 23:37 <@ShadowHntr> sup ware 23:37 < ware> same ol shit 23:37 < ware> just got back from a venu in nashville watchin my friends rockin jazz band 23:37 <@ShadowHntr> just sitting on my hands till nashville state gets my loan check 23:37 <@ShadowHntr> cool 23:52 <@dasunt> Still no cute young women in my life. 23:52 <@dasunt> I'm getting slightly worried about my lack of dating though. 23:52 <@dasunt> I either really need to get laid, or else Walmart has actually hired one or two attractive clerks. 23:54 < ware> haha 23:54 <@dasunt> Maybe it is subjective. 23:55 < ware> learn to be happy with yourself 23:55 < ware> codependance ftl 23:55 <@dasunt> The average overweight mouthbreather with a vacant bovine expression in her eyes makes someone who is normal look hot. 23:55 <@dasunt> ware: Can I be unhappy and an alcoholic instead? 23:55 <@dasunt> Also, some of us have sex drives. 23:55 < ware> sure, but you know how that story ends 23:56 < ware> doesnt the pull of the unknown weigh on you at all? 23:56 < ware> whats it like to be sober? how will i act and respond in situations? 23:56 < ware> you cant know until you get there 23:56 < ware> seek the excitement in that and fill your life with something different 23:57 < ware> because you know what youre doing now isnt working right? 23:57 <@dasunt> I'm sober right now. 23:57 <@dasunt> And in pain. 23:57 <@dasunt> Damnit. 23:57 < ware> try meditation and ask yourself why you feel the way you do 23:58 < ware> what is causing it and why, then what is causing that and why, and what can you do to change it 23:58 <@dasunt> Cause my leg fucking hurts. 23:58 < ware> then punch something 23:58 < ware> and itll take your mind off your leg haha 23:59 * dasunt punches ware. --- Log closed Tue Feb 12 00:00:13 2008