--- Log opened Sun Feb 10 00:00:02 2008 --- Day changed Sun Feb 10 2008 00:00 <+coil> best friend of frienfenfenfed 00:00 <@dasunt> I has metal. 00:02 <@sdodson> you've turned to looting scrap metal? 00:05 <@Mirage> probably out 'finding' copper on construction sites 00:06 * sdodson loots dasunt's gold teef 00:07 <@brimstone> i've sworn off about.com now: http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdln_registry.htm 00:08 <@brimstone> read the portability notes after the title 00:08 <@sdodson> I thought most sensible people did so back in like 2001 00:08 <@dasunt> sdodson: As in the genre. 00:16 <@dasunt> In my defense, they had Manowar's Louder Than Hell. 00:23 <@macogw> brimstone: windows is technically pretty close to posix compliant 00:29 * dasunt laughs. 00:29 <@macogw> if not totally 00:29 <@dasunt> "technically pretty close" is the key phrase. 00:29 <@dasunt> Remember to cut down, not across. 00:29 <@macogw> obviously missing everything there is to love about unix :P 00:30 <@dasunt> Missing the small things to hate about unix as well. 00:30 <@macogw> but the shell can take - before a lot of commands and junk like that 00:30 <@dasunt> And the large thing to hate about unix. 00:31 <@sdodson> I wish widespread use of ACLs happened. 00:33 <@macogw> sdodson: you use your ACL every time you bend your knee! 00:33 <@dasunt> sdodson: I don't. 00:34 <@dasunt> ACLs are too complex. 00:34 <@dasunt> I prefer the unix ugo security model. 00:34 <@dasunt> For the most part. 00:38 <@sdodson> Is that like being sort of pregnant? 00:41 <@dasunt> Kinda. 00:42 <@dasunt> I like what OpenBSD did with ACLs. 00:42 <@sdodson> Is that like being sort of pregnant oh wait 00:42 <@dasunt> But really, simple security tends to be better security, IMO. 00:42 <@dasunt> Security needs to be understandable. 00:42 <@sdodson> It definitely complicates things. 00:43 <@dasunt> But append-only logs are sexy. 00:43 <@sdodson> Is there any way to create a union group? 00:43 <@dasunt> sdodson: You need to create a confederacy group first, and the union group will form from what is left. 00:44 <@SkyDog_> strages: You bringing the photobooth to OZ4? 00:44 <@sdodson> Say i want all employees to have access to a folder. But everyone's in faculty or staff. 00:45 <@dasunt> If it is winders, make a group that includes both faculty and staff. 00:45 <@sdodson> Not windows. 00:45 <@dasunt> fWhat OS? 00:46 <@sdodson> Linux I suppose. 00:47 <@macogw> i think you can... 00:47 <@dasunt> SE-linux has ACLs, I thought. 00:47 <@sdodson> Only way I know how to do that is with ACLs, just giving both groups access to things. 00:52 <@macogw> for some reason, i think in the gnome users & groups configuration thing it has that as an option, but i dont have gnome on here to look 00:54 -!- Netsplit clarke.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: +coil, Obl 00:54 <@sdodson> Assume I can't modify the users, nor members of the group faculty or staff. Yet I want employee to instantly pick up new members in each of those groups from the upstream NIS 00:54 <@sdodson> I guess it boils down to can groups be members of groups. 00:55 <@someninjamaster> whats special about a tsa certified lock 00:55 -!- Netsplit over, joins: coil 00:55 -!- mode/#se2600 [+v coil] by ChanServ 00:55 <@macogw> i thought they could, but maybe the gnome config thing just copies the names over 00:55 <@sdodson> someninjamaster: it can be picked with a paper clip 00:55 <@macogw> i dont see anything while searching that shows a way to do it in /etc/group 00:55 <@someninjamaster> ah 00:56 -!- Obl [n=bgjgdj@c-69-247-138-38.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 00:57 <@someninjamaster> im thinking about buying a eee pc and a pelican case to toss it around in 00:57 <@sdodson> TSA lock basically means the TSA can open it if the want. 00:57 <@sdodson> generally means it's a really shitty lock 00:59 <@dasunt> TSA? 00:59 <@sdodson> transportation safety asshats 00:59 <@macogw> one of the ladies in #linuxchix says it depends on the group's member rules. some can only have individuals, and some can hold other groups 01:00 <@macogw> sdodson: ^ 01:01 <+coil> ih 01:02 <@sdodson> posix does not support nested groups, or being member of more than 16 groups 01:03 <@macogw> isnt root a member of every group automatically? 01:03 <@macogw> or is it not considered a member of anything, just outside that realm? 01:04 <+coil> root > * 01:04 <+coil> root pwns u 01:04 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 01:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 01:04 <@sdodson> uid 0 is not subject to that really 01:06 * sdodson says dasunt's name in hopes that he returns to the conversation and explains what he meant by confederacy group 01:06 * sdodson assumes that's a windows thing 01:09 <@dasunt> sdodson: It was a joke. 01:09 <@macogw> sdodson: looks like there are some things that can give you nested groups, but theyre not part of it exactly...examples being if you're using samba and winbind with active directory or novell's eDir 01:10 <@macogw> where "it" means unix 01:13 <@macogw> so, with a directory service, yes. 01:14 <@macogw> otherwise, no, not without writing yourself little scripts to replace adduser and addgroup that add the person to all necessary groups 01:16 <@ShadowHntr> hmmm... 01:16 <@ShadowHntr> i remember (this may be a sun-only thing...) 01:16 <@ShadowHntr> that you can change the default options using the -D flag, this may include default groups... 01:17 <@ShadowHntr> that's a solaris synatx. 01:17 <@ShadowHntr> syntax. 01:17 <@ShadowHntr> it looks like linux can do it too 01:17 <@ShadowHntr> useradd(8) 01:21 <@macogw> sdodson: are new users always added to one of those 2 or are some added to something else that would make setting the umbrella group as a default a bad idea? 01:37 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 01:37 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 01:54 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-206.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 01:54 <@ShadowHntr> sup rattle 01:56 <@macogw> im guessing he rebooted 02:04 <@juice> sup? 02:17 <@freakn> bo ya? 02:20 <@wontonjoe> yo yo yo 02:20 <@wontonjoe> look who in tha hizouse 02:20 <@wontonjoe> !!! 02:20 <@wontonjoe> ? 02:20 <@wontonjoe> ./ 02:20 <@wontonjoe> .- 02:20 <@wontonjoe> .\ 02:20 <@wontonjoe> .| 02:20 <@wontonjoe> ./ 02:20 <@wontonjoe> ok im done 02:21 <+coil> no 02:35 <@wontonjoe> yes 02:35 <@wontonjoe> i iz 02:35 < JimShoe> what the hell 02:35 <@wontonjoe> oh shit 02:35 <@wontonjoe> where did you come from 02:35 <@wontonjoe> never seen you here this late 02:36 <@wontonjoe> hows it going 02:40 <@juice> hmm 02:40 <@juice> I am off to bed 02:40 <@juice> cya wontonjoe 02:41 <@someninjamaster> is it considered poor taste to ask for donations for your self 02:41 <@someninjamaster> i always thought other people were suppost to ask for you 02:54 <@someninjamaster> one of my friends at union college is asking for money 03:22 < JimShoe> ah wontonjoe 03:29 <@rattle> Wo. Tired. Neat day. 03:31 <+coil> im drinking that sake 03:31 <+coil> dasunt: 03:34 <@macogw> hi rattle 03:35 <@macogw> hows that shanghainese girl? 03:52 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:03 <@wontonjoe> i need some chinese food 04:03 <@wontonjoe> fucking alabama, no 24 hour food in sight 04:03 <@wontonjoe> unless you like awful house 04:03 <@wontonjoe> i must leave alabama 04:03 <@wontonjoe> must 04:03 <@wontonjoe> leave 04:03 <@wontonjoe> now 04:05 -!- macogw [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit ["leaving"] 04:15 <@wontonjoe> heel ya, outerz0ne can be gotten to from the airport in atl on marta for 1.75 04:15 <@wontonjoe> trip keeps getting cheaper and cheaper :) 04:27 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["[BX] The Hobbits use BitchX. Shouldn't you?"] 07:05 <@dc0de> sup wontonjoe 07:23 <@wontonjoe> morning 07:23 <@wontonjoe> so i found out i can hit the marta for like 1.75 dc0de 07:23 <@wontonjoe> airport is about 20 miles away from the hotel 07:24 <@brimstone> wontonjoe: are you flying to ATL? 07:24 <@wontonjoe> yup 07:25 <@wontonjoe> it cost me less than driving 07:26 <@wontonjoe> wow the hsv guys are in here at all hours 07:26 <@wontonjoe> jimshoe this morning, now you brimstone 07:26 <@brimstone> i'm curious how it's less than driving 07:26 <@wontonjoe> it costs me 54 dollars 07:26 <@wontonjoe> to fly 07:26 <@brimstone> you got some $40 tickets somewhere? 07:26 <@brimstone> one way? 07:27 <@wontonjoe> nope round trip, i fly for taxes standby 07:27 <@wontonjoe> gov employee...i mean gf lol 07:27 <@brimstone> ah 07:28 <@wontonjoe> ill have to get there early friday afternoon though, marta scares me at night 07:28 <@wontonjoe> always afraid some psycho will be riding the rails at night 07:29 <@wontonjoe> ok im not that spooked, but its still a possibility 07:29 <@brimstone> like one that just flew in from hsv for $54? 07:29 <@wontonjoe> exactly! 07:29 <@brimstone> you're a hoot wontonjoe 07:30 <@wontonjoe> i figure about 4 dollars for marta there and back, and 54 for the plane ticket, my transportation will come in at just under 60 dollars 07:30 <@wontonjoe> then all i gotta focus on is my food and room 07:30 <@wontonjoe> now if i could find floorspace id really have a budget trip :) 07:30 <@brimstone> you could bring some granola bars with you for food 07:30 <@wontonjoe> true, i like those 07:31 <@wontonjoe> nah, i want to go to the steak houe thing 07:31 <@brimstone> then just drink the water and free beer 07:31 <@brimstone> who says you can't go? 07:31 <@brimstone> just don't buy anything 07:38 <@wontonjoe> ya i dont know if i wont to go that minimalistic, fat kid gotta eat! 07:38 <@wontonjoe> wont=want 07:40 <@wontonjoe> i could fly to england, but noooo im going to outerz0ne 07:40 <@wontonjoe> i want to fly to amsterdam, dont ask! 07:41 <@wontonjoe> dc0de mustve wandered off somewhere 07:41 <@wontonjoe> was gonna see if he recommends using the marta system, ive only been on it a few times 08:00 <@dc0de> wontonjoe marta isn't that bad... 08:01 <@dc0de> they have a good police force on the rails... 08:15 <@wontonjoe> cool 08:15 <@dc0de> just don't be flashing all kinds of tech... 08:16 <@dc0de> you know, Ipod, laptop, and gps should stay in the bag. 08:25 <@someninjamaster> wow this airport laptop thing is getting crazy 08:38 <@dc0de> I just came back in from Mexico, and didn't see any proof of it. 08:51 <@dc0de> Ok, I see that there is a new show coming on Discovery channel, where they're trying to do a real "jurassic park" style of DNA manipulation to create a T-Rex 08:51 <@dc0de> Life imitating art? or Stupidity gone wild? 08:51 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 08:53 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 08:53 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 09:09 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Success] 09:30 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-206.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 09:31 <@dc0de> I'm going back to bed. 09:31 <@dc0de> l8r all 10:02 <@Corydon76-dig> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080210 Now we know who ware is imitating 10:13 -!- Stefanie_TN [n=chatzill@c-68-52-233-201.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Stefanie_TN] by ChanServ 10:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Morning, Stefanie 10:21 <@Stefanie_TN> Hi. 10:24 < Obl> wow, it's past my bedtime........ 10:26 <@Stefanie_TN> I just woke up. 10:26 <@Stefanie_TN> Broiling a ribeye syeak for breakfast. 10:26 <@Stefanie_TN> t 10:28 < Obl> nice.. be right there..... 10:40 * polerin yawns 10:43 <@sdodson> hi 10:43 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-206.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 10:47 < Obl> gmornin polerin 10:49 <@sdodson> Obl: fuck you 10:50 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: a little passive aggressive this morning? 10:50 <@sdodson> I don't think that was passive. 10:55 <@Stefanie_TN> lol 10:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Is it that time of the month again? 10:56 <@sdodson> It wasn't. "Dear #se2600 person who didn't say good morning to me after he/she/it said good morning to someone else, Fuck You, -Love sdodson" 10:56 <@sdodson> and i'd have to set the topic to that rather than just saying it 10:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Chill 10:57 <@sdodson> Oh don't get so excited. 10:58 <@Stefanie_TN> "he/she/it" - I guess that covers bots, too. 10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> and vasectomies 10:58 <@sdodson> perl and c bots 10:59 <@SkyDog_> Um, hi sdodson... 10:59 <@sdodson> i don't think people who have had vasectomies are considered its 10:59 <@sdodson> hi skydog! 10:59 <@Corydon76-dig> What about castrata? 10:59 <@SkyDog_> I hope that I am not considered an 'it'. 11:00 <@Stefanie_TN> SkyBot? 11:00 < ware> anyone seen Fool's Gold 11:00 <@tzanger> nope 11:00 < ware> the ex asked me to take her to see it tonight 11:00 < ware> but 'not as a date, just as going to a movie as friends' 11:00 * tzanger rolls eyes 11:01 < ware> the outline of the movie reads as follows: 11:01 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: you know that's not a good idea 11:01 <@Stefanie_TN> I finally saw "No Country for Old men" Friday night. 11:01 < ware> A new clue to the whereabouts of a lost treasure rekindles a married couple's sense of adventure -- and their estranged romance. 11:01 <@sdodson> Stefanie_TN: is it good? 11:01 <@sdodson> think a friend wants to go see rambo today 11:01 <@Stefanie_TN> I liked it. 11:01 <@sdodson> ware: hahahaha dude it's a trap! 11:01 <@rhia> ware: your ex wants you to take her to a movie about a couple getting back together ..... 11:01 < ware> rofl 11:02 < ware> yeah.. 11:02 < ware> you know, the older i get and the more relationshits i see, im starting to associate love with stupidity 11:02 <@SkyDog_> run! 11:03 <@sdodson> ware: plz get married already so i can harass you like I do wontonjoe 11:03 <@Stefanie_TN> Has anyone seen "There Will Be Blood"? 11:04 <@SkyDog_> Not I. 11:04 <@SkyDog_> Have not been to the movies since "the simpsons" I think. 11:05 <@sdodson> think he last I saw was american gangster 11:05 <@sdodson> That was like history time for the 5-15 year old kids or something 11:05 <@Stefanie_TN> "No Country" was long at 120 min, but "Blood" is 158 min. 11:05 <@sdodson> like the movie was an educational flick 11:07 <@SkyDog_> Ok, time for a shower and breakfast. 11:07 <@Stefanie_TN> *puts on another steak for SkyDog* 11:09 < Obl> thanks for the offer and all... but I got no time thin morning 11:09 <@Stefanie_TN> lol That ribeye was pretty good. 11:09 <@Stefanie_TN> I should do that more often. 11:10 <@Stefanie_TN> We'll have to serve steaks at the HC when it's completed. 11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Some of us don't eat dead cow 11:11 <@Stefanie_TN> I love dead cow. 11:12 <@Stefanie_TN> ...and pig. 11:12 <@Stefanie_TN> I could bring some blueberry waffles for Corydon. 11:12 < Obl> live cow? 11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> How about dead bird? 11:13 <@sdodson> steak waffles 11:13 <@Stefanie_TN> I prefer seafood and mammals to poultry. 11:14 <@Stefanie_TN> I don't eat turkey, and I rarely eat chicken. 11:14 < Obl> so, if ya are what u eat... youre chicken to be chicken? 11:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Seafood works for me, but not for Dolemite 11:14 <@Stefanie_TN> ...and I hate vegetables. 11:14 < Obl> HEY, 11:15 < Obl> be nice.. hawking is a nice guy... 11:15 <@Corydon76-dig> I enjoy veggies 11:15 <@Stefanie_TN> Squid, shrimp, lobster, clams... I need to start planning dinner. lol 11:16 < Obl> J 11:16 < Obl> Japanese word for octopus is "taco" 11:16 <@Stefanie_TN> I could eat calamari every day. 11:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, anybody listening to Wait Wait on NPR? 11:17 <@Stefanie_TN> Nope. 11:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Apparently the panhandlers outside Walmart make as much in a day as the typical Walmart clerk makes in a week 11:17 < Obl> HAHAHAHA 11:18 <@Stefanie_TN> I'm listening to the Swans at the moment. 11:18 < Obl> Some newscaster back in the late 80s went undercover on side of road with a cardboard sign..... 11:18 < Obl> he said he made 18-24 bucks an hous 11:18 < Obl> HOUR 11:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Obl: that was also the subject of a Sherlock Holmes mystery 11:19 < Obl> im wondering if inflation drove that number up yet... 11:20 <@Stefanie_TN> I wonder how many of those panhandlers left their empty bottles outside of the HC building... 11:20 <@Corydon76-dig> A newspaper reporter in that Sherlock Holmes story dressed up as a horribly disfigured beggar and made something like 300 times what his newspaper salary was 11:21 <@Corydon76-dig> so he quit his job and continued panhandling 11:21 <@Stefanie_TN> Does that count insurance and other benefits? 11:22 < Obl> 300X SALARY? 11:22 < Obl> fuck benifits... at that point.. who needs em 11:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Obl: keep in mind that 19th century newspapermen made considerably less than they do now 11:23 < Obl> and had less benifits 11:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Obl: also keep in mind that Sherlock Holmes is a work of fiction 11:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Just pointing out that this isn't exactly a new phenomenon 11:23 <@Stefanie_TN> So, what would one enter for Line 1 of Form 1040 as a panhandler? 11:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Stefanie_TN: I believe those are all considered "tips" 11:24 <@Stefanie_TN> I don't suppose they have to "tip out" to Wal-Mart, huh? 11:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh 11:30 <@sdodson> walmart doesn't have people who earn tips 11:33 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: You available this afternoon at 3:30 -4:00? 11:34 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: You on? 11:34 <@sdodson> speaking of taxes turbo tax has yet to send me my password 11:34 <@sdodson> The talks at LCA were great 11:35 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: sure 11:35 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: where? 11:36 <@SkyDog_> JJ's. 11:36 <@Corydon76-dig> OK 11:36 <@SkyDog_> seeblind has to leave at 5. 11:36 <@SkyDog_> I'd like to meet as close as I can to 3:30. 11:36 <@SkyDog_> I have something at 1:00 11:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, I'll see about being there a little early, then 11:37 <@SkyDog_> I am going to try and be there earlier myself. 11:43 <@Dolemite> Ok, I'm watching "He Was a Quiet Man" right now... and I've got two words for you... 11:43 <@Dolemite> Quadraplegic Karaoke 11:43 <@Dolemite> *sigh* 11:44 <@SkyDog_> ick. 11:45 <@Dolemite> ick? 11:45 <@sdodson> This a porn you and the little lady are checking out? 11:45 <@Stefanie_TN> "the little lady" - LOL!!! 11:46 <@Dolemite> Ha! "The Little Lady" isn't here. 11:47 <@Dolemite> It's some movie that NotLarry hooked me up with 11:48 <@sdodson> well that makes sense 11:49 <@Dolemite> starring Christian Slater with a really bad combover 11:50 <@sdodson> He's like 1/2 step up from Keanu Reaves (sp?) in the continium of bad actors. 11:50 <@Dolemite> nah, he's done some pretty decent stuff 11:50 <@sdodson> fuck the winds are bad today :( 11:53 <@Stefanie_TN> There go my plans for stacking dominoes all over town. 11:58 <@sdodson> I'm sorry. 11:59 <@Stefanie_TN> Were you just making an observation, or are said winds preventing you from doing something today? 12:00 <@Dolemite> Or are said winds coming out of your butt? 12:03 <@Stefanie_TN> ...quite possibly the latter. 12:04 <@sdodson> Am I doing something wrong? I seem to have to pay taxes every where while everyone else gets a refund. 12:04 <@Stefanie_TN> Yep, I'm getting a refund. :) 12:04 <@Dolemite> You're in that limbo land where you don't own a home yet, have no kids, and make enough money to really get fucked over. 12:05 <@sdodson> bah I don't make much :( 12:06 <@Stefanie_TN> Don't worry. You've still got Bush's "stimulus package" headed your way. lol 12:06 <@sdodson> I thought it was stimlus much like nuklear 12:07 <@sdodson> hmm, maybe i've got a bunch of capital losses i can claim 12:07 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: Ask your workplace to recalculate your withholding based on 0 exemptions 12:11 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-206.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #se2600 12:15 <@Stefanie_TN> Our chess club paid about $34 in taxes last year, and $0 the year before. 12:17 <@sdodson> I'm not convinced that home ownership is a net benefit to me right now. 12:18 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: are you going to be in that area for the next 5 years? 12:18 <@sdodson> I'm surprised there aren't arranged marriages for tax benefits. I guess the downside of wrecking your credit when you get a divorce prevents that from being very attractive. 12:18 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: No idea man. 12:19 <@Dagmar> Yay I have more nyquil 12:19 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: if you can be there for the next 5 years, it's to your benefit to buy a house... especially RIGHT NOW, as the housing prices are way down 12:19 <@Dagmar> o/~ Ny-quil, it knocks your ass right out... o/~ 12:19 <+coil> o/` 12:19 <@Dagmar> Keep that limp wrist away from me 12:20 <+coil> o/` looks better (on my side) then o/~ 12:21 <@sdodson> coil has not been keeping his pimp hand strong? 12:21 <+coil> yes i have 12:21 * coil bitchslaps Dagmar 12:28 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has quit ["The maching has gone to sleep"] 12:28 -!- macogw [n=maco@128.164.102.26] has joined #se2600 12:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o macogw] by ChanServ 12:28 -!- Stefanie_TN [n=chatzill@c-68-52-233-201.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 13:02 <@dasunt> coil: 13:04 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:04 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 13:20 -!- sdodson_ [n=sdodson@cpe-098-026-113-031.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 13:24 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 13:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 13:28 <@Catonic> vk4akp: what brings along? 13:28 <@Catonic> *what brings you along? 13:29 * Catonic puts the pieces together. 13:31 -!- timoguin [n=timoguin@cpe-098-026-113-031.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:31 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/sdodson] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:34 -!- sdodson_ is now known as sdodson 13:46 <@SkyDog_> Anyone got a copy of Backupevec 9.1? 13:46 <@SkyDog_> backupexec 9.1 13:46 <@SkyDog_> Sigh. 13:52 <@dc0de> SkyDog_ I have 10.x 13:56 -!- sdodson_ [n=sdodson@cpe-098-026-113-031.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 13:59 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Man, I wish that would work for me. 13:59 <@SkyDog_> I need 9.1, so that I can get a good backup on a novell network. 13:59 <@SkyDog_> Friggin novell. 13:59 <@SkyDog_> sigh. 14:02 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@cpe-098-026-113-031.nc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:03 -!- sdodson_ is now known as sdodson 14:03 < sdodson> novell stuff is something i've never learned :( 14:11 <@macogw> SkyDog_: only certain versions work with novell? 14:11 <+coil> but 14:11 < sdodson> http://people.mozilla.com/~polvi/threedom/status.html interesting that javconsole is highest in the usage 14:19 <@Neoteric> okay I've spent my money 14:19 <@Neoteric> who else is doing their part? 14:20 <@Neoteric> sdodson: why does revisor suck so much balls? 14:20 <@Neoteric> sdodson: can you explain me that one? 14:20 <@Neoteric> or rather can I find a kick start file that won't have any x-pkgs included w/ it? 14:21 <@macogw> Neoteric: still fail? 14:22 <@dc0de> SkyDog_ let me look around... you need 9.1 for Novell? 14:22 <@dc0de> or will the 9.1 windows version work? 14:22 <@macogw> Neoteric: did it at least manage to do th "linking in documentation" thing or did it hang again? 14:24 < Obl> Skydog- "Identity Theft 101" catchy title? 14:25 <@dc0de> SkyDog_ http://seer.entsupport.symantec.com/docs/264658.htm 14:25 < sdodson> Neoteric: That's more a basic limitation of how the comps.xml stuff goes 14:25 < sdodson> Neoteric: tell it not to resolve deps or something 14:25 <@Neoteric> sdodson: is there an option for pungi for that? 14:26 < sdodson> Neoteric: I don't know that stuff. 14:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 14:53 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:54 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has joined #se2600 15:15 <@Catonic> Neoteric: sup? 15:20 <@Catonic> http://cgi.ebay.com/HOT-SHOT-CATTLE-ELECTRIC-PROD-SHOCK-REPLACEMENT-MOTOR_W0QQitemZ170191237130QQihZ007QQcategoryZ11751QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 15:21 <@Catonic> ~minilink 15:21 <@dc0de> ~minilink 15:21 <@dc0de> ? 15:21 <@dc0de> Catonic me thinks the bot is dead 15:21 <@Catonic> I think that's a replacement part for jonnyx's cattle prod 15:21 <@sdodson> just get a terminal that allows you to click on links like the rest of the world 15:22 * dasunt kills the bot. 15:23 <@dc0de> sdodson cant' help it if my ssh terminal doesn't like wrapped links 15:23 <@Catonic> wow. 315 A @ 460V.. that's a motor. 15:23 <@Catonic> 250hp, electric. 15:25 <@Neoteric> aaah taking out the battery really does a lot to cool down this heated lead brick 15:25 <@dc0de> Neoteric which brick are you using now? 15:27 <@Catonic> Neoteric: I need a copy of that picture of me from PN. 15:27 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-76-22-253-140.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:34 <@Neoteric> dc0de: I have a new core duo2 from .apple 15:34 <@Neoteric> Catonic: okay 15:34 <@Catonic> the one on the roof.. 15:35 <@Catonic> I stll think that's my favorite picture, and I'd like to show it to my grandmother before she dies. =) 15:35 <@Catonic> (and no shit, she really is in the hospital.) 15:41 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:04 <@dasunt> What's the quick unix way to get a count of all files in a directory & its sub directories? 16:05 <@tzanger> find . -type f | wc -l ? 16:05 <@tzanger> might be off by one or two though 16:07 <@Catonic> ls -laR | wc -l ? 16:09 < arafatm> ls -laR counts . and .. and puts in spaces between directories. 16:12 <@Catonic> Yes, I didn't say it was perfect, just quick. 16:23 -!- Stefanie_TN [n=chatzill@c-68-52-233-201.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:23 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Stefanie_TN] by ChanServ 16:24 <@ladymerlin> heya stef 16:25 <@Stefanie_TN> Hey. 16:25 <@ladymerlin> how goes it 16:25 <@Catonic> do they make the gimp for mac osx? 16:26 <@Stefanie_TN> I looked at the hotel's website today. Looks much nicer than the OZ3 hotel. 16:28 <@ladymerlin> oh yeah 16:29 <@Stefanie_TN> I might consider moving in. 16:38 <@ladymerlin> hehe! 16:39 <@Catonic> iirc the OZ3 hotel was an IZ hotel, but one IZ, they switched it to what is now the OZ hotel. 16:45 <@Stefanie_TN> Ah, so we're getting back to OZ's roots, as much as possible? 16:46 <@SkyDog_> We're getting back to having fun and getting good information. 16:46 <@SkyDog_> Decius commited to doing a talk today. 16:46 <@SkyDog_> Rick Dakan is going to give us some of his new book as gimmes. 16:46 <@Catonic> Stefanie_TN: no, thankfully. That old hotel was dreadful. 16:46 <@SkyDog_> got three other groups to check with for freebies. 16:46 <@sdodson> Mile Zero? 16:47 <@SkyDog_> yep. 16:47 <@Catonic> This is the hotel that we had the suites in. 16:47 <@Catonic> which iirc is OZ1. 16:48 <@sdodson> Anyone want to share a room? 16:48 <@Catonic> Wanna spoon? 16:48 <@SkyDog_> Cordyon does sdodson. :) 16:48 <@SkyDog_> Just kidding. 16:49 <@sdodson> guess i'll room alone 16:49 <@Catonic> get the room now.. 16:49 <@SkyDog_> Yeah. 16:49 <@Catonic> figure out arrangements later. 16:49 <@Catonic> there will always be someone who needs somewhere to sleep. 16:50 <@Catonic> Just like coil at PN6. 16:50 <@SkyDog_> Or wonton... 16:50 <@Catonic> iirc wonton got his own room. 16:50 <@Catonic> but I dont remember if he has the girlfruit with him or not. 16:51 <@SkyDog_> HOly shit. the time/space continum is gonna get all fucked up. 16:52 <@Catonic> hrm? 16:53 <@sdodson> ya, I generally get doubles and make an open offer to anyone I think won't try to rape me 16:56 <@dasunt> I should check prices for flights to Atlanta. 16:57 <@Catonic> dasunt: sadly, I will be in nashville. Not that you'll actually come to a con in the southeast. 16:58 -!- MudFlap_ [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 16:58 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap_] by ChanServ 16:58 <@dasunt> Catonic: I will, when the budget works. 16:58 <@dasunt> I like cons. 16:58 <@Catonic> save for hope. 16:58 <@SkyDog_> Yo MudFlap_ Where is your ass? 16:58 <@dasunt> Save? 16:58 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: ask Corydon76. 16:58 <@dasunt> LoL. 16:58 <@dasunt> What's that. 17:02 <@Catonic> http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2713 <-lol, get rich now... be my bitch later. 17:08 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:16 <@dasunt> I need more Matson Jones. 17:17 < Obl> dasunt - where u at now? city I mean... 17:18 <@dasunt> Obl: Minneapolis, MN. 17:18 < Obl> ewww... not on the way.. sorry 17:20 <@dasunt> It is a pretty city! 17:20 <@dasunt> VISIT NOW! 17:20 < Obl> not driving that far 17:20 <@dasunt> LoL. 17:31 <@dc0de> The devil platinum card is real... 17:44 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 17:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 18:04 <@Stefanie_TN> Quote of the day: "And I got to thinking — fuck adults. Adulthood is for those who can’t hack youth." 18:04 -!- MudFlap_ [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 18:15 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 18:15 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jonnyx] by ChanServ 18:23 <@dc0de> sup jonnyx 18:46 <@dc0de> wheee 18:53 -!- Stefanie_TN [n=chatzill@c-68-52-233-201.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.80 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]"] 19:00 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-155-201-127.owb.bellsouth.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:00 -!- Jagobah [n=jago7777@adsl-157-105-202.owb.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 19:00 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 19:14 <@dc0de> so what's everyone up to tonight? 19:16 <@brimstone> i'm playing a game! 19:19 <@dc0de> brimstone which one? 19:26 <@brimstone> tremulous 19:26 <@brimstone> wild game when you get on the walls 19:30 -!- LastChild [n=LastChil@A041134.N1.Vanderbilt.Edu] has joined #se2600 19:36 <@dc0de> brimstone interesting.... what OS? 19:41 <@brimstone> windaz 19:45 <@sdodson> zomg brimstone kills babies 19:46 <@brimstone> nom nom nom 19:46 <@dasunt> http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i161/alohakam/dogpark.jpg 19:51 -!- Obl [n=bgjgdj@c-69-247-138-38.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:56 <@wontonjoe> i am, so tired 19:56 <@wontonjoe> good evening 20:03 < ware> wee 20:11 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/sdodson] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:12 <@wontonjoe> if i had a wii i would go play with it 20:16 -!- sdodson [n=sdodson@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/sdodson] has joined #se2600 20:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o sdodson] by ChanServ 20:16 <@dasunt> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/news/2008/02/09/db0901.xml 20:17 <@sdodson> guess I may as well upgrade to F8 now that I'm busy mucking with my mythtv box 20:18 <@sdodson> hmm, maybe not, dunno that myth works with pulse audio just yet. 20:20 <@dasunt> F7> 20:20 <@dasunt> Fuck. 20:20 <@dasunt> I was going to waste time playing games tonight. 20:20 <@sdodson> what? 20:20 <@dasunt> I wasted time in other ways. 20:21 <@dasunt> I wanted to fire up zsnes and play a Link to the Past. 20:22 <@sdodson> looks like my wifi card works out of the box with new kernels, yay. 20:29 <@dc0de> yay 20:30 <@wontonjoe> i need to get a passport 20:31 <@wontonjoe> ive got a year from may till i cant fly anymore at my discopunt 20:35 <@wontonjoe> disco punt? 20:35 <@wontonjoe> hmm now thats an interesting thought 20:38 <@someninjamaster> i have been meaning to ask 20:38 <@someninjamaster> what motherboard would yall recomend for myth 20:39 <@dc0de> I have no ideas... 20:40 <@dc0de> I use a shuttle. 20:40 <@dc0de> with an AMD 3000 20:51 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 20:51 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 20:56 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:21 -!- hobbes615 [n=ryan@pool-71-251-63-206.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:34 -!- macogw [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:38 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 22:38 -!- Shadow_Phone [i=shadow40@80.252.175.11] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:47 -!- macogw [n=maco@ubuntu/member/macogw] has joined #se2600 22:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o macogw] by ChanServ 22:48 <@Catonic> Damn... 22:48 <@Catonic> To think I've done something few people on the shuttle projects have... I have talked directly to an astronaut, in flight. 22:49 <@someninjamaster> http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=8a25c39217f359ab0117f47a358d0008 22:49 <@someninjamaster> haha 22:49 <@someninjamaster> just watch the first 2 minutes 22:51 <@sdodson> Catonic: what'd you say? 22:51 <@sdodson> did you ask "A/S/L?" 22:51 <@Catonic> "KB5AWP KB5AWP KB5AWP, This is WA4NZD." 22:55 <@Catonic> lol 22:55 <@Catonic> I've been calling this one guy by his reporter name for years... 23:18 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 23:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 23:20 <@Catonic> sup Neoteric 23:21 <@Neoteric> oi... wtf does "dot-by-dot" conversion mean for HDTV scaling? It means you'll see little bits of noise on the outside of the image 23:21 <@Catonic> someninjamaster: zomg 23:21 <@macogw> Neoteric: hiya 23:22 <@Catonic> someninjamaster: cartoons today are so violent... 23:22 <@macogw> Neoteric: answer telephone, get girl, etc? 23:22 <@Catonic> and bloody 23:28 <@someninjamaster> no kidding 23:28 <@someninjamaster> but damn kitten in the microwave 23:28 <@someninjamaster> thats brutal 23:28 <@macogw> yeah... 23:29 <@macogw> howd they get the ape in the microwave? 23:29 <@someninjamaster> i dont know 23:29 <@someninjamaster> but the gay ape party bus slayed me 23:30 <@Catonic> ape? 23:30 <@someninjamaster> later in the episode 23:46 -!- SkyDog_ [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:46 -!- SkyDog_ [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 --- Log closed Mon Feb 11 00:00:13 2008