--- Log opened Sun Feb 03 00:00:31 2008 00:04 <+coil> *omg hai 2u how aer you all tonight?? me? im fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!* 00:16 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 00:27 -!- wsmith [n=wsmith@adsl-68-253-218-193.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #se2600 01:00 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: there's no way to definitively look up who owns an 800 number, is there? 01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Not anymore, no 01:01 <@Corydon76-dig> At one time, yes, you could, but some people got pissed about the guy handing out that info for free 01:01 <@sdodson> got some BS postcard in the mail "IMPORTANT MOTOR VEHICLE INFORMATION! VEHICLE WARRANTY DVISION!" 01:02 <@sdodson> with an 1800 number on it to call about a 2006 Buick that id on't own 01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: yeah, they buy vehicle purchase records in bulk 01:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Their whole business model is about enticing people to buy warranties that they'll never use 01:03 <@sdodson> I don't own a 2006 Buick 01:04 <+coil> i do 01:04 <@sdodson> coil: ZOMG CALL THIS NUMBER NOW! 01:04 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: just toss it 01:04 <+coil> what number 01:04 <+coil> i wanna clall 01:05 <+coil> calawl 01:05 <@sdodson> 18007249614 01:05 <+coil> THEY'RE CLOSE 01:05 <+coil> D 01:05 * coil cries 01:20 * dasunt dies. 01:26 <+coil> dasunt: i found out where mineappleloss is on a map today 01:27 <@dasunt> You must feel so proud. 01:27 <+coil> it was cold 01:27 <+coil> and now im like fuck that shit 01:27 <@dasunt> LoL. 01:27 <+coil> that's too far away to harass you 01:27 <+coil> why you move up there 01:28 <@dasunt> People are nice. 01:28 <@dasunt> Away from the ex. 01:30 <+coil> dasunt: does it get so cold that the phone lines break? 01:32 <@dasunt> Not usually. 01:32 <@dasunt> That requires ice storms. 01:39 -!- remoford [n=remoford@c-68-52-110-61.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:42 <@dasunt> "Heavy metal, or no metal at all!" 01:47 <@Dagmar> None, thanks. 01:49 <@dasunt> :( 01:49 <@dasunt> Not a fan of Manowar? 03:54 -!- wsmith [n=wsmith@adsl-68-253-218-193.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:17 -!- cordless [i=cordless@c-68-54-226-63.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 04:53 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:13 <@dasunt> I have a reason to homebrew my DS: http://www.dsfanboy.com/media/2007/11/nethack110707.jpg 06:15 <@Dagmar> Or you could just buy Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, which is about the same thing 06:23 <+coil> no 06:33 <+coil> !minicity 06:33 <@brimstone> Population: 10857 Revenues: 2531600 Unemployment: 0% Transports: 100% Criminality: 0% Pollution: 1% 505 ahead of loloclaudie 06:33 <@Dagmar> Nethack is just about unplayable on a keyboard without a numpad 06:33 <@Dagmar> How the fuck you're going to tolerate dealing with the DS's touchscreen is I suspect a function a deep denial 06:33 <@Dagmar> s/a deep/of deep/; 06:41 <+coil> np: Sublime – Santeria 06:41 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:53 <@Dagmar> !minicity 06:53 <@brimstone> Population: 10859 Revenues: 2532150 Unemployment: 0% Transports: 100% Criminality: 1% Pollution: 1% 506 ahead of loloclaudie 07:04 <@dc0de> Sweet 07:13 <@Dagmar> Shoot anyone yet? 07:16 <@dc0de> Dagmar nah, no need, we're behind three gated checkpoints. 07:17 <@dc0de> this place is amazing... 07:17 <@dc0de> ~$250 per night/person, all inclusive. 07:17 <+MxZBot> dc0de: SCO makes more sense than you 07:18 <@dc0de> http://www.dc0de.com/gallery2/v/Cancun08/ 07:18 <@dc0de> anyway, off to breakfast and a morning swim.... 07:18 <@dc0de> l8r 07:21 <@Dagmar> nice 07:22 <@Dagmar> Do you realize how creepy that photo gallery is? 07:22 <@Dagmar> BIG tourist destination... 07:23 <@Dagmar> ...but apparently suffering from a recent attack of the living dead. 07:23 <@Dagmar> _No_ signs of life in any picture. 07:24 <@Dagmar> Wear high collars, dude. 07:24 <@Dagmar> Maybe something with corbon fibers and a padlock 07:24 <@Dagmar> s/corbon/carbon/; 07:27 <@Dagmar> If you come back wearing fake-n-bake, we're staking you motherfucker. 08:55 <@sdodson> paultard = Rabid Ron Paul supporter that will do anything in the name of the "grassroots" campaign for Ron Paul 09:49 <@sdodson> http://www.soafacts.com/ "Larry Ellison once died in a terrible accident, but was quickly given SOA. He came back to life, built a multibillion dollar software company, and now flies fighter jets." 10:01 -!- unixfag [i=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 10:22 < ware> wee 10:22 < ware> whens the superbowl start 10:22 <@sdodson> 5pm 10:23 < ware> cst? 10:23 < ware> thats dumb 10:23 < ware> what am i supposed to do 10:23 < ware> they need to have it at 2 10:23 < ware> so ppl can get drunk 10:23 < ware> and passout 10:23 < ware> and goto work 10:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Go shopping and get your fattening food 10:23 <@sdodson> i dunno, at 10 or so it said 8 hours to go so i assume it's 6pm est and 5pm whatever you're at 10:23 <@sdodson> get guacamole 10:24 < ware> bleh 10:24 < ware> the pats are gonna win 10:24 <@sdodson> http://consumerist.com/consumer/guacamole/kraft-fake-guacamole-lawsuit-218457.php 10:24 < ware> the nfc / afc championships were more exciting thatn this 10:25 <@sdodson> they're the undefeated team? 10:25 < ware> i think ill enjoy the commercials more than the game itself 10:25 < ware> yeah 10:25 <@sdodson> my head hurts 10:26 < ware> well... i wasnt gonna say anything but 10:26 < ware> if my head looked like that it'd probably hurt too 10:26 < ware> :P 10:27 <@Dagmar> sdodson: That chick better not look into what's in the cheap pre-sliced cheeses then 10:27 <@Dagmar> She'll have a stroek. 10:27 <@Dagmar> s/stroek/stroke/; 10:27 <@sdodson> Are any of the blackberries decent phones? I wonder if I got a phone that had better radio cell service wouldn't suck. 10:28 <@Dagmar> Tim and Decius have crackberries IIRC 10:28 <@sdodson> i'm hearing that they're good phones 10:28 < ware> ladymerlin: you put those pics up? 10:28 <@Dagmar> Decius would be good to ask if you need to know about durability 10:28 <@sdodson> not just from a feature standpoint but from the phone reception standpoing 10:29 <@sdodson> Dagmar: cool, thanks 10:29 <@sdodson> Treo is not a good phone. 10:30 <@Dagmar> Well, I think it's an "okay" phone. 10:30 <@Dagmar> I like my Razr better than the Treo's I've seen tho 10:31 <@Dagmar> The EAR GREASE on the screen drives me batty tho 10:31 < ware> wewt 4g on linen 10:31 <@Dagmar> ware: You got BottomScanner? 10:31 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:31 <@Dagmar> ware: It's part of the _standard_ Auctioneer suite 10:31 < ware> is that an addon? 10:31 <@Dagmar> Yes 10:32 < ware> i havent gotten any addons since i started back 3 weeks ago 10:32 <@Dagmar> I htink you'll like what it does, although it involves a bit of camping 10:32 < ware> been on default everything lol 10:32 <@sdodson> Dagmar: ya, anytime i've had a conversation in excess of like 3 seconds i have to scrub down the screen 10:32 <@Dagmar> Basicall,y after you've scanned hte auction for about a week running to get a lot of pricing data,, you turn on BottomScanner and sit there 10:32 <@Dagmar> When someone puts something up with a buyout significantly enoough (customizable) less than the "going rate" it'll up and ask you if you wanna snatch it 10:33 <@Dagmar> There's other forms of bargain scanning you can do with it as well 10:33 <@Dagmar> It's handy 10:33 <@sdodson> I sort of like the lack of such tools in LoTRo 10:33 <@Dagmar> sdodson; I originally wondered why some folks were selling cell phone screen wipes in little bags that hang around the neck. 10:33 <@Dagmar> Now I know. 10:34 <@Dagmar> sdodson: I mainly liket hat I don't have to stress over whether i'm getting overcharged for gems 10:34 <@Dagmar> Plus Auctioneer will let you toss commodities/consumables into the auction house for the going rate without YOU having to remember it 10:34 <@sdodson> Ya, it's nice to have but it's almost like you've got hedge fund operators in game. 10:35 <@Dagmar> Just being able to dump 150 netherweave into the AH with one click and know it's going in there for a reasonable price is teh awsome 10:35 <@Dagmar> Well over 75% of the time that stuff sells for hte price Auctioneer picks, too. ;) 10:35 <@Dagmar> I owuld have been happy at 66% but it's up in the 80's 11:01 <@Dagmar> sdodson: I avoid the hedge fund madness by setting the threshold at a really low level, like below 30% of going rate 11:01 <@Dagmar> Mainly that catches people putting stuff in for the default, unintelligent, vendor price markup ratio 11:02 <@Dagmar> 'cuz when you're quick about it, you can generally relist the stuff at what you paid for it and some enchanter will buy it for a bit above that to disenchant it 11:04 <@Dagmar> Enchantrix is *supposed* to provide average value of disenchanted materials, but more often than not it doesn't show me squat, so I'm sure i'm losing a little money there, but... I don't care. When you pile up 100's of things to sell all at once, you just want it OUT OF YOUR POCKETS, FAST. 11:04 <@Dagmar> I wound up putting 68 green items up last weekend. Took a damn hout. 11:04 <@Dagmar> s/hout/hour/; 11:05 <@Dagmar> The ~400 or so commodities/materials I threw in took about four minutes to do. 11:05 <@Dagmar> ...about 250g in total, but I would have rather made that in 15 minutes instead of an hour and a half (getting that many piles of money out of the mailbox ain't amusing either) 11:14 <@tzanger> what on earth are you talking about 11:15 <@Jagobah> hey wow talk 11:27 < ware> weee 11:27 < ware> jago what server you play on? 11:29 <@Jagobah> kel'thuzad 11:31 < ware> everyone is all over the pace 11:31 < ware> place* 11:33 <@Jagobah> hehe :) 11:34 < ware> is that a PvP server? 11:34 < ware> im on Azuremyst with coworkers andi have a 30 mage on Mal'ganis with the guys here 11:35 < ware> but i really like the PvE server cause you dont have dicks that camp you while youre trying to quest, and if youwant to go pvp you can 11:35 < ware> or just goto bg 11:47 <@Dagmar> heheh 11:47 <@Dagmar> Yes, the "no cocktards" thing is a BIG attractor for the PvE servers. 11:47 <@Dagmar> Hell, I actually got a _salute_ from a troll last week 11:48 <@Dagmar> He was trying to be a cocktard by duel-spamming me, while we're in Netherstorm next to those nasty Burning Legion forges. 11:49 <@Dagmar> I just shoved the dialog into the corner, and quick as you like scattershot to pull about nine mobs, ran back over to him and feigned death. 11:49 <@Dagmar> ..which uh, pretty much how I was going to end that duel anyway. :) 11:49 <@Dagmar> <-- doesn't play fair when crossed. :) 12:00 < ware> haha 12:10 < Synx_hm> Anyone heard of Yonder Mountain String Band 12:15 <@sdodson> ware: hey, see what level selexan is 12:15 <@sdodson> ware: on mal'ganis 12:19 < Synx_hm> This is the second time i have had to call in about a messed up bill. When i signed up for service i agreed to pay just over $50 for both a local tel line and DSL fast access. On top of that because of other issues i had during setup/installation the first 6 months were to be half price. I just received a bill for 139.69 and i have not even made one phone call on the tel line. I would like my service to be canceled effective 12:20 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has joined #se2600 12:20 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o tcstool] by ChanServ 12:20 < ware> im on my server atm 12:20 < ware> hey tcstool! wanna run me through shadowfang keep :D 12:21 < Synx_hm> you fucking WoW geeks 12:21 < ware> haha 12:21 <@tcstool> I can't now but I could later 12:22 < ware> np 12:22 < ware> ill be on for a bit 12:22 < ware> sdodson: 28 12:22 < ware> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Selexan 12:22 < ware> magischer is 30 12:22 <@sdodson> so i could start playing on there again and be roughly where you guys are 12:23 <@sdodson> but i'd have to delete about 10 gigs of porn to have space for wow 12:23 <@sdodson> and the 30 hours of installing and patching 12:23 < ware> well my pally is 28 but its on Azuremyst 12:23 <@Dagmar> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Skywall&n=Eshk 12:23 <@Dagmar> Fear my dinky repair bills 12:23 <@Dagmar> I can leave a dungeon in tatters and only pay 12g 12:24 < ware> paws for concern haha nice 12:24 <@sdodson> i play lotro now though, but i'm sure i'll get fed up with that and start playing wow again 12:25 < ware> im really enjoying wow this go round 12:25 <@Dagmar> 'round about the time WoTLK comes out I'll bet 12:26 <@sdodson> Ya, problem is that i've not even played through the expansion content yet. 12:26 <@Dagmar> Ahh... 12:27 <@Dagmar> I'm considering banking some quest turn ins to get a jump-start when they raise the level cap 12:27 <@Dagmar> ...sadly I already did most of what's in Netherstorm 12:27 <@sdodson> Do they still convert XP to gold when you've hit 70? 12:27 < Synx_hm> Does sirius only have 2 sats? 12:28 <@Dagmar> Yep 12:28 <@Dagmar> A lot of the stuff in Netherstorm resulst in you getting 24g a pop for em 12:28 <@sdodson> Ambiguous "Yep" 12:28 <@sdodson> Guess you're talking about wow not sirius 12:28 <@sdodson> I heard someone hit the upper limit of gold. 12:28 <@sdodson> 32bit int i think 12:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah 12:30 <@Dagmar> THat was some funny screenshots 12:31 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I think people should be able to trade that in for a special title... 12:31 <@Dagmar> "Moneybags" 12:32 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pube5Aynsls makes me laugh everytime i see it 12:35 <@sdodson> http://www.watchtheguild.com/cast/ makes me think none of them actually play MMORPGs 12:39 < Synx_hm> fuck fuck fuck 12:39 < Synx_hm> i need a new credit card and debit card and i am leaving the country at the end of the week 12:55 -!- exospook [n=exospook@75.116.35.166] has joined #se2600 12:57 <@SkyDog_> Heya exo. 12:58 < Synx_hm> See skydog i told you the spooks were watching me 12:58 <@SkyDog_> Heh. I doubt they have the time. :) 12:58 < exospook> always watchin 12:59 < exospook> afternoon guys 12:59 <@SkyDog_> Yo. 12:59 < exospook> thought I'd check in from Arkansas and see if you guys had recovered from PhreakNic 12:59 <@juice> heh 13:00 <@SkyDog_> recovered?? hell, it takes until march to start planning it again. 13:00 <@SkyDog_> My therapist says I can only attend a con like PN once a year. :) 13:00 < exospook> I figured it took that long to dry out 13:01 <@SkyDog_> Wel, shmoo is this month, so that kinda keeps us going. :) 13:01 <@SkyDog_> then next month we have Outerz0ne. 13:01 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:01 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 13:01 < exospook> never a moment of rest 13:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Anybody know of an easy way (in autoconf) to convert a detection for a binary on a system to a C-level define? 13:02 <@Corydon76-dig> The problem is that on Darwin, if /sbin/launchd exists, then daemon(3) is deprecated 13:02 <@Neoteric> Corydon76-: like you want a #define for the presence of (for instance) /bin/ls 13:02 <@Neoteric> and then do something based on that 13:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Neoteric: right 13:03 <@Neoteric> I remember doing this 13:03 <@Corydon76-dig> (Whoever at Apple decided to deprecate a standard 4.4 BSD API should be shot, maimed, killed, and then REALLY hurt) 13:06 <@Neoteric> ls 13:06 <@Neoteric> doh 13:07 <@ladymerlin> whee 13:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, fuck it... Leopard can be broken for all I care 13:17 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 13:37 -!- cordless [i=cordless@c-68-54-226-63.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Client Exiting"] 13:58 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 14:02 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 14:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 14:12 <@tcstool> ware: You around? 14:16 < ware> yepp 14:16 < ware> always 14:21 -!- tcstool [n=tcstool@74-38-170-152.dsl1.ckvl.tn.frontiernet.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:50 -!- exospook [n=exospook@75.116.35.166] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 15:39 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:44 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 15:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 15:45 -!- ShadowHntr [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 15:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ShadowHntr] by ChanServ 17:02 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 17:02 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 17:35 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 17:42 -!- exospook [n=exospook@75.116.35.166] has joined #se2600 17:50 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:06 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 18:06 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Neoteric] by ChanServ 18:07 <@dasunt> Wow. 18:07 <@dasunt> "Apparently Slashdot now has a section specifically for nonsensible and pointless articles. And they even made it look like digg!" 18:07 <@dasunt> http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/03/2217246 18:11 <@ShadowHntr> heh. 18:11 -!- exospook [n=exospook@75.116.35.166] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:20 <+coil> f02620877 18:24 -!- Feltenix [i=conrad@146.229.189.25] has joined #se2600 18:38 -!- rattle [n=rattle@tor/regular/rattle] has joined #se2600 18:38 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o rattle] by ChanServ 19:07 <+coil> OMG MY SUPER BOWL ISN'T WORK 19:07 <+coil> working* 19:07 <@brimstone> hi coil 19:07 <+coil> hi coil 19:07 <+coil> hi brimstone * 19:08 <@brimstone> happens to me all the time 19:08 <+coil> maybe i should be eating on my lunch break... 19:08 <+coil> instead of irc'in... 19:08 <@sdodson> coil: and smoking weed? 19:08 <+coil> sssshh sdodson 19:08 <+coil> they dont know that 19:08 <+coil> busted 19:10 -!- eryc [i=enkrypte@71.4.147.219.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #se2600 19:11 <@someninjaserver> haha 19:18 <@someninjaserver> i thought political ads were banned in the superbowl 19:23 -!- exospook [n=exospook@75.116.35.166] has joined #se2600 19:24 < eryc> ? 19:24 <@someninjaserver> i just saw an obama add 19:24 < eryc> i just saw a zantac ad 19:24 <@sdodson> local 19:24 <@someninjaserver> ah 19:24 <@someninjaserver> maybe 19:25 <@sdodson> err wait, why would they be banned from superbowl? 19:25 <@someninjaserver> i dont know 19:25 <@sdodson> If you've got $40M to blow on 30 second ad then go for it 19:25 < eryc> politics are unamerican 19:25 <@someninjaserver> they should be 19:25 <@someninjaserver> some of us get bored with seeing them every 25 seconds 19:26 < eryc> so what do you think, McCain vs Obama this fall? 19:27 <@sdodson> Honestly I respect both of them I think. 19:29 <@sdodson> http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=gen&c=us&l=en&cs=&k=A1319048&cat=all&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643 1.5TB for $70 19:29 < eryc> hm 19:29 < eryc> you getting one? 19:30 <@sdodson> i should 19:30 < eryc> question, is it possible to build an external eSATA RAID? 19:30 <@sdodson> i don't have eSATA connector though and I wouldn't want to use USB 19:30 <@sdodson> sure why not? 19:30 < eryc> for my Tivo 19:31 < eryc> Would that be a PC motherboard with an eSATA card? 19:31 < eryc> I guess I'm having trouble understanding the software side of it 19:32 <@brimstone> some motherboards have esata on the back 19:32 <@sdodson> it just shows up as two drives. 19:32 < eryc> The Tivo needs to see a single volume via eSATA 19:33 < eryc> So far I've only seen specialized boxes lke that Simpletech or others 19:35 < eryc> http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?pid=10952 19:35 < eryc> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822101083 19:35 < eryc> How do I build one of those? 19:35 <@brimstone> needs lots of perl 19:37 <@sdodson> oh well, i ordered one 19:38 <@sdodson> wow, tivo has esata? 19:38 < eryc> yep 19:38 <@sdodson> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1747610 19:38 < eryc> http://www.buffalotech.com/products/external-drives/drivestation/drivestation-quattro-turbousb/ 19:49 < eryc> Thank you For choosing Dell Your order has been submitted. 19:49 < eryc> i ordered 2 19:49 <@sdodson> If you order two you get free shipping. 19:49 < eryc> yep :) 19:50 <@sdodson> So either it's got some sort of controller in the chassis or it just shows up as two drives. 19:50 <@sdodson> http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:9KoLrM3hi30J:accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/System_Drives/productdetail.aspx%3Fc%3Dus%26l%3Den%26s%3Dbsd%26cs%3D04%26sku%3DA1319048+dell+A1319048&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a 19:50 <@sdodson> ^^ normal price 19:51 < eryc> ya 19:51 < eryc> its quite a deal 19:51 <@sdodson> I'm leaning towards it showing up as just two drives 19:51 < eryc> also #1 in this listing, http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,123728;page,1/article.html 19:51 < eryc> hm 19:52 < eryc> well it implies hardware raid 19:52 <@brimstone> i wonder if dell will be a dick and cancel orders 19:52 <@someninjaserver> they pulld the buy button down 19:52 <@sdodson> A friend has already has a pre-auth hit is credit card 19:53 <@sdodson> eryc: cool 19:53 < eryc> i'm guessing the price is one decimal to the right 19:53 <@sdodson> someninjaserver: huh, can still add it to your cart 19:53 < eryc> history has shown that dell honors pricing errors 19:54 <@sdodson> life as a etailer is hard when you make mistakes like this 19:54 <@sdodson> I got my roomba for $59 when the coupon code should have resulted in 10% off of $159 19:55 <@someninjaserver> i just placed my order for onw 19:55 < eryc> Pending1 Debit Card: DELL SERVICE & SUPPORT -$147.20 19:55 < eryc> i'm going to be one happy Tivo user :) 19:56 < eryc> plus i have the second for laptop backups 19:56 <@sdodson> bah, still nothing on my credit card 19:57 < eryc> well i ordered after you did so i'm sure you'll get one if i do 19:57 <@sdodson> I bought on two different credit cards. 19:58 <@sdodson> Charged $1.31 to a visa gift card which wasn't registered in the same zip code so I wonder if that fouled things up. 19:58 < eryc> heh. why complicate things? ;) 19:58 <@brimstone> $1.31? 19:58 <@sdodson> bah, they just rejected 19:59 <@sdodson> Ya, that was the balance left on the gift card I wanted to finish out. 20:19 < eryc> i got my confirmation email from Dell 20:19 < eryc> and look whats happening to the Super Bowl! 20:19 < eryc> drama! 20:31 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:24 -!- juice [i=juice@mo-76-2-165-179.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:26 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 21:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 21:44 -!- Pr0nStrGeek [n=heh@97.82.29.111] has joined #se2600 21:44 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Pr0nStrGeek] by ChanServ 21:45 < arafatm> Wom 2 21:58 <+coil> die 22:09 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 22:24 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["Gone!"] 22:24 <@Catonic> jonnyx: find your +o bit. 22:26 <@brimstone> he left it over here last night 22:26 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o jonnyx] by brimstone 22:29 <+coil> hi 22:32 -!- exospook [n=exospook@75.116.35.166] has quit ["This computer has gone to sleep"] 22:47 <@sdodson> sweet sweet revenge http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/04/wmat104.xml 22:47 <@someninjaserver> damnit i have ended up with another damn feminest lit teacher 22:48 <@sdodson> lit is boring 22:50 <@sdodson> drive pulled from dell's site 22:51 -!- exospook [n=exospook@75.116.35.166] has joined #se2600 22:56 <@someninjaserver> haha 22:56 <@someninjaserver> can teachers force a political view on you 22:57 <@sdodson> no, but i'm not sure feminism constitutes a political view 22:57 <@someninjaserver> can making me watch 4 videos on hillary clinton across 2 weeks of lessions count 22:58 -!- exospook [n=exospook@75.116.35.166] has quit ["Leaving"] 23:00 <@sdodson> You'd need to show that it was actually political stuff which I don't imagine would be too hard considering we're ramping up for an election 23:00 <@someninjaserver> well the videos are all about her views 23:00 <@someninjaserver> and how shes calling women to vote for her 23:01 -!- jonnyx [n=jonnyx@adsl-098-068-041-004.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:01 * brimstone votes for a white land-owning male at least 45 years of age 23:03 <@sdodson> Well, now seems like a good time to figure out how student affairs works at your school 23:03 <@sdodson> or whatever group handles that shit 23:06 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjaserver: advocating that people vote is considered neutral 23:13 <@dasunt> someninjaserver: Feminist? LoL. 23:13 <@dasunt> someninjaserver: Have you told her that as a white male, you must vote Republican? 23:13 <@dasunt> Y'know, to keep the patriachy in power. 23:14 <@someninjaserver> its not so much a republican democrate thing 23:14 <@rhia> wear a Ron Paul shirt to class 23:14 <@dasunt> LoL. 23:14 <@Corydon76-dig> My favorite are the women who claim that they're feminist, but "could never vote for a woman for president" 23:14 <@brimstone> shoot from the hip 23:14 <@sdodson> oh well, college is all about different views, enjoy it while you still can 23:14 <@dasunt> someninjaserver: You haven't been paying attention to CNN. Women will vote for Clinton, and blacks will vote for Obama. 'Cause everyone votes their race and gender, I guess. 23:14 * dasunt doesn't really get it either. 23:14 <@someninjaserver> this is the same teacher that flunked me because one of the final papers was to be written from the point of view of a woman 23:14 <@someninjaserver> and she didnt like my view 23:14 <@dasunt> LoL. 23:15 <@dasunt> I'd be flunking this class so quickly. 23:15 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjaserver: lovely. That's just fucked up. 23:15 <@someninjaserver> fyi this is the same one that made the mac comment 23:15 <@sdodson> dasunt: Because you'd show up drunk or because you make an ugly woman? 23:15 <@Corydon76-dig> The mac comment? 23:15 <@dasunt> someninjaserver: Hmmm, if she believes in gender politics, for shits and giggles, you could always pretend to be a marxist and believe in class politics. 23:15 <@dasunt> sdodson: Well, both. :p 23:16 <@Corydon76-dig> You could request a transfer to another class, based on the fact that she hates men. 23:17 <@Corydon76-dig> and then back up your argument by showing that women score better in her classes than men 23:17 <@someninjaserver> corydon 23:17 <@someninjaserver> someninjamaster 23:17 <@someninjaserver> 23:28:30 23:17 <@someninjaserver> you have got to be fucking kidding me 23:17 <@someninjaserver> someninjamaster 23:17 <@someninjaserver> 23:29:32 23:17 <@Corydon76-dig> If you can show that she's biased, she loses all credibility 23:17 <@someninjaserver> i emailed my professor about something on the website that safari didnt work well with 23:17 <@someninjaserver> someninjamaster 23:17 <@someninjaserver> 23:29:57 23:17 <@someninjaserver> and her response to me was that if i really knew anything about computers i would be using xp 23:17 <@someninjaserver> someninjamaster 23:18 <@someninjaserver> 23:30:46 23:18 <@Corydon76-dig> lol 23:18 <@someninjaserver> someninjamaster 23:18 <@someninjaserver> 23:30:46 23:18 <@someninjaserver> she said the corprate world uses xp and xp only and if i want a decent job i should learn how to use it 23:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Great, you have an idiot for a professor 23:18 <@Corydon76-dig> An arrogant idiot, but an idiot nonetheless 23:19 <@Corydon76-dig> "She goes out of her way to insult male students..." 23:19 <@tzanger> those kinds of people piss me right off 23:19 <@someninjaserver> i proably need to tell her that im 20 and working part time 23:19 <@someninjaserver> but im proably grossing more a year money wise than her 23:20 <@Corydon76-dig> and running an IT department for a successful business. "How many IT departments do you run, professor?" 23:21 <@someninjaserver> actully i proably should just send something to pwn her all powerful xp 23:21 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjaserver: well, you have a contact at the FBI. It would be a pity if they found child porn on her XP machine 23:22 <@sdodson> That train of thought will end in failure, I don't suggest you persue it. 23:22 <@sdodson> pursue? 23:22 <@sdodson> man i suck at spel 23:23 <@sdodson> Planting illegal material on someone's machine is sure to backfire. 23:23 <@someninjaserver> or i could just hack her site 23:23 <@someninjaserver> and replace the text with frank senatra quotes 23:23 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjaserver: that's equally illegal 23:24 <@sdodson> I really suggest a formal complaint. 23:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, I do, too 23:24 <@someninjaserver> ill look into that tommrow 23:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Ask the administration to compare her grading on students based upon gender compared to other lit teachers 23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> If she grades on a curve and puts gender above other criteria, she deserves to lose her teaching position 23:26 <@someninjaserver> yeah 23:26 <@Corydon76-dig> At the very least, request to be transferred to another classroom 23:26 <@someninjaserver> i might do some informal behind the scenes groundwork for my case 23:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Or having the department chair audit her class 23:28 <@Corydon76-dig> If you prevail, you could succeed in having your past failure in her class purged from your record 23:29 <@someninjaserver> yeah 23:29 <@someninjaserver> that would be nice 23:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Just to be clear, professors are permitted to have bias, as long as their bias does not affect their ability to treat all students in a fair and equitable manner. 23:30 <@someninjaserver> im going to talk to some teachers friendly to my plight 23:30 <@Corydon76-dig> You aren't protesting her bias, per se. You are protesting the manner in which she treated you due to your gender 23:30 <@Corydon76-dig> It's still gender discrimination, which is prohibited by the state 23:30 <@someninjaserver> and see if they can't grab some intel on the situation 23:31 <@brimstone> at least they could grab some amd 23:31 <@Corydon76-dig> buh dum chick 23:31 <@brimstone> yeah, sorry, i'm kinda bored 23:32 <@someninjaserver> i want to make sure she isnt friends with higher ups that could kick me in the nuts 23:32 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjaserver: if you don't prevail at this level, a lawsuit is certainly an option 23:32 <@someninjaserver> i wouldnt go that far 23:33 <@Corydon76-dig> I would. 23:33 <@dasunt> Don't fuck over Corydon76-dig. 23:33 <@Corydon76-dig> I would hope that the administration would come to their senses before that point, but a lawsuit is always an option. 23:33 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Btw, how is the dating scene going? 23:34 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: talking with another woman now. I have a date this week. 23:34 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: how's your dating coming along? 23:34 <@dasunt> You know it only leads to pain. 23:35 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: that may be so. But I think kids are more joy than pain 23:37 <@dasunt> How many kids do you want? 23:37 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm thinking 2 is a good number 23:37 <@brimstone> Team Corydon, Grand Champian of Little League 23:38 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: I know next to nothing about coaching 23:38 <@dasunt> Two mini-Corydons... 23:38 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig: make up for what you don't know with more minions! 23:39 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: Prove everybody wrong and raise two well-adjusted happy kids who grow up to be successful in whatever careers they choose to pursue 23:39 <@brimstone> or.. swarm of toddlers 23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> It could happen 23:40 <@dasunt> So even if you aren't a sex offender, you can be treated as a sex offender? 23:41 <@dasunt> http://www.local10.com/news/15118787/detail.html 23:41 <@brimstone> they don't call it 2.5 kids cuz people like to feed mouths... 23:41 <@dasunt> Hmmmm, probably not the right time to read that article while the rest of the channel is talking about raising kids. 23:43 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: nobody said that lawmakers have any sense whatsoever 23:44 -!- Neoteric [n=timball@c-68-33-250-220.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Last I checked, common sense is not a requirement to hold public office 23:44 <@brimstone> does hillary own any land? 23:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Probably so 23:44 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I'm not sure what's the most fucked up part of that article. 23:45 <@dasunt> Although sex offenders being restricted from school bus stops at night but not during the day may be it. 23:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Hasn't SCOTUS already ruled that effectively preventing sex offenders from living anywhere in a city is illegal? 23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> It's just a matter of time until somebody files a lawsuit and gets those regulations tossed out 23:46 <@dasunt> Dunno. 23:46 <@dasunt> That's okay though, they are sex offenders, very few people care. 23:47 <@Corydon76-dig> No, I want sex offenders, if they are on the streets, to be able to live normal (though monitored) lives 23:47 <@Corydon76-dig> If they can live under the law, then there's more deterrence to them breaking it. 23:48 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Why can't you endorse a knee-jerk legislation that results in sex offenders being homeless and harder to track? 23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> If they're breaking the law just by surviving, then there's no deterrence to them breaking yet another law and assaulting another kid 23:50 <@Corydon76-dig> or adult, since we're talking about sex offenders in general, which also includes adult-on-adult rape 23:51 <@dasunt> I think that politically, your solution is unworkable. 23:51 <@dasunt> Unless SCOTUS knocks it down. 23:52 <@dasunt> Hmmmm, is there any evidence that the "X feet from schools" laws even work? 23:52 <@Corydon76-dig> I also wouldn't mind there being a greater distinction (and levels) in sexual offenders... the guy who is a sex offender for life because he got caught having sex in public with his girlfriend is far less of a threat than the guy who is a serial rapist 23:52 <@dasunt> "far less of a threat"? 23:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, he's probably no threat at all 23:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Yet the law makes no distinction 23:53 <@dasunt> Yah. 23:53 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Y'know, if he had nude pictures of himself or his girlfriend, he has also dealt in child pornography. 23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> and because there's no distinction, the serial rapist can claim that he got caught having sex in public with his girlfriend and we all feel sorry for him 23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> You're assuming the guy was underage at the time 23:54 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: True. 23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> So it doesn't help at all for there to be a single class of sex offender 23:55 <+coil> google > microsoft 23:56 <@Corydon76-dig> If the classification of sex offender is for public safety, then the public deserves to know what the relative risk of each offender really is 23:59 <@dasunt> This is the same public that goes batshit crazy when they hear the word "radiation", right? 23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> but I have an early morning tomorrow, so I need to get to bed 23:59 <@dasunt> G'night. 23:59 <+coil> GOOD FUCKING NIGHT CORYDON --- Log closed Mon Feb 04 00:00:29 2008