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00:43 <+coil> hi
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02:39 < strages> anyone else seen the new mountain dew bottles?
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07:02 <@Shadow_Phone> woot, se2600 just made number 1
07:02 <@Shadow_Phone> !minicity
07:02 <@brimstone> Population: 9956 Revenues: 2320750 Unemployment: 1% Transports: 99% Criminality: 1% Pollution: 1% 5 ahead of loloclaudie
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07:55 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
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08:43 <@polerin> die.
08:43 <@polerin> fuckin adhd meds making me not be able to drink coffee without getting nautious... feh
08:45 <@Dolemite> don't be such a tweaker
08:45 <@polerin> fuggoff :P
08:45 <@polerin> hehe
08:46  * polerin grumbles and wishes she could get hot water for tea
09:02 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, we have free coffe, soft drink fountains and beer on fridays at my job
09:02 <@Shadow_Phone> only way i get through a friday is on a mild buzz
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09:02 <@polerin> we have free coffee
09:03 <@polerin> but it's in a room where they insist on holding meetings
09:03 <@polerin> bastards
09:03 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, sucks
09:03 <@Shadow_Phone> dont drink coffee, but i love tea
09:03 <@polerin> and the stuff out of the vending machine isn't coffee
09:03 <@polerin> well, I have lots of loose leaf teas here
09:03 <@polerin> I just can't get access to water
09:04 <@polerin> because it's in the same room and I refuse to nuke styrofoam
09:04 <@Dolemite> I have a morning routine of hot chocolate and either grits, oatmeal or pop tarts
09:04 <@Dolemite> Go buy an electric kettle to keep at your desk then
09:05 <@Shadow_Phone> i should buy a box of instant oatmeal
09:05 <@Shadow_Phone> would be good for the stomach
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09:15 <@polerin> Dolemite: I had one, it broke and I forgot to buy one
09:15 < ware> h0 sn4p!
09:20 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
09:21  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
09:24 <@seeblind> morning everybody
09:26 <@SkyDog_> <Yawn>
09:27 <@SkyDog_> Morning.
09:31 <@rhia> yes, it is
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09:44 < ware> ouch oh ouchies
09:44 < ware> just sat on the right one
09:44 < ware> and im sick to my stomach ahaha it hurts
09:45 < ware> and now my ears are ringing
09:45 < ware> weee
09:45 <@SkyDog_> I hate when I do that.
09:56 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : ping
09:56 <@SkyDog_> pong.
09:56 <@Dolemite> Do you have your "Making Things Talk" book with you?
09:56 < ware> SYN
09:56 <@SkyDog_> chekcing.
09:57 <@SkyDog_> Yes.
09:57  * ware hands Dolemite a pair of pliers
09:57 <@SkyDog_> It's on the shelf here.
09:57 < ware> that will make just about anything talk
09:57 <@Dolemite> Open your hymnal to page 303
09:57 <@Dolemite> And let me know what you think about doing something with that related to OZ4
09:58 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:58 <@SkyDog_> Hmmmm.
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09:58 <@SkyDog_> Go priv and let's talk.
09:58 <@nachoguy> ooh, Skydog and Dolemite are cybering
09:59 < ware> logs plz
09:59 <@nachoguy> you'll have to ask them.  "<SkyDog_> Go priv and let's talk.
09:59 <@nachoguy> "
09:59 < ware> Baseball all wrong -- man with four balls cannot walk.
10:09 <@SkyDog_> ware, nachoguy: Leave us alone, I'm almost "there".
10:12 < ware> :D
10:13 < ware> food time
10:31 <@Dolemite> Actually, I'm skipping today's meeting
10:31 <@Dolemite> w00t
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10:44 < ware> hrmp. server has 80mb free on c: and 168gb free on d:
10:48 < ware> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azuremyst&n=Wareboy
10:48 < ware> wonder how they do that
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10:54 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.  This one makes your character look like a homo, ware.
10:54 <@Dolemite> http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal%27Ganis&n=Evilpig
10:55 <@polerin> heh
10:55  * polerin pokes deoptima with the administrative leave stick
10:55 <@deoptima> lmao
10:56 <@deoptima> hehe like that huh?
10:56 <@polerin> your an idiot, but I <3 anyway
10:56 <@polerin> lol
10:56 <@deoptima> im soooo freaking bored
10:56 < ware> yeah yeah, but my character is 2 weeks old
10:56 < ware> not 2 years
10:56 <@deoptima> no network security and IT there is a fucking idiot not me, I just proved the fact
10:57 <@polerin> hon, proving the fact that the people who can get you fired are idiots isn't exactly the brightest move either ;)
10:58 < ware> jeesh Evilpig your tank is nuts
10:58 <@deoptima> well......
10:58 <@polerin> why do you think I've let the cherry picker thing go?
10:58 <@polerin> :P
10:59 <@polerin> they still haven't fixed it
10:59 <@deoptima> yea whatever..... they have noooo clue how bad it is
11:00 <@deoptima> since there is not one thing i had to brute force or hack my way around
11:00 <@deoptima> its all out there in documents on public network shares
11:02 <@deoptima> hell the most sensitive of all databases at comcast has a an administrative username and password in a doc on a public share and local management knew i had and used that on a daily basis but thats ok....
11:03 <@deoptima> and when I use my own login to loginto dameware and then logout in under 60sec i get admin leave thats fucked up
11:03 <@deoptima> they really know how to pick and choose battles wisely huh?
11:09 <@polerin> :P
11:09 <@polerin> no comment
11:13  * ware isnt surprised
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11:28 <@Evilpig> god damnit
11:28 <@Evilpig> right as I get to this school in MO they call it for snow
11:28 <@Evilpig> http://maps.modot.mo.gov/travelerinformation/TravelerInformation.aspx
11:28 <@Evilpig> now I have to drive back in this shit
11:30 <@juice> Evilpig, welcome to missouri
11:30 <@juice> :)
11:35 <@nachoguy> Juice, you might have typoed it, I think it's spelled misery
11:36 <@juice> yes that too
11:37 < ware> Evilpig: sucky lulz
11:38 < ware> Evilpig: im gonna play back on mal'ganis so send me bags pzl
11:38 < ware> plz*
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12:15 <@Evilpig> didn't i already give you bags?
12:17 < ware> id have to check
12:17 < ware> i almost want to wipe my chars on there and start over
12:17 < ware> sell everything and swap over
12:17 < ware> i got a 30 mage but
12:17 < ware> i dunno
12:19 <@Mirage> ware: you can mail multiple items on a single message..I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to create a new one, mail all your shit to it, then delete all the old.
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12:20 <@Evilpig> i really hope the stars align tonight and we kill kael'thas
12:21 < ware> ill keep the mage and see what i can do
12:22 < ware> i started back playing cause a friend at work plays all the time
12:22 <@Mirage> hahah..internet outage in india, what's dell gonna do for support?
12:22 < ware> and these other servers are for when hes not around to lvl with
12:22 <@Evilpig> leveling to 60 is so fast now
12:23 < ware> i got a 22 priest but its a troll
12:23 < ware> wtf
12:23 <@Evilpig> i've been told you can do 1 - 60 in three days played easy
12:23 < ware> ima keep the mage and wipe everything
12:23 < ware> well i was lookin at the James' Guide to Leveing and it starts at 30
12:23 <@Mirage> unless your me..then it takes months
12:24 < ware> ill jump on that when hes not around and hopefully get up to yalls lvls
12:24 <@Evilpig> this just changed with the 2.3 patch
12:24 < ware> im really enjoying my palladin tho
12:24 <@critch> Mirage: I'm in at over a year and haven't topped 56 yet
12:25 < ware> critch: do you play on malganis too?
12:25 <@Evilpig> how the hell?
12:25 <@critch> no, Scryers
12:26 <@critch> Evilpig: It is easy, I have a life outside of gaming and it causes me to go long periods of time without playing.
12:27 <@critch> I haven't actually been able to play for about a month or more right now.
12:27 <@polerin> heh
12:27 <@Evilpig> ahhh life i had one once
12:28 <@critch> Evilpig: you know how pushy some guilds are about you need to play x amount a week, and run raids and shit. I have friends that are that demanding with my time.
12:29 <@critch> Take this week, I had Monday night with Wizard and Oddball, Tuesday was Pookie for a short period of time, Last night I went out for Bike Night that is no more than the bikers caging it to the bar and eating together and having fun with the kareoke girl.
12:30 <@critch> Tonight I go to Brownie and Bears house for bike work and dinner, tomorrow is a dinner out with friends, Sat morning is moving a friend, then a birthday party that night, Sunday is a SB party back at Bear and Brownies
12:31 <@ladymerlin> ah hah! so wizard is alive....
12:31 <@critch> between family and beeing sick I missed 2 weeks of activities and caught hell for it.
12:32 <@critch> ladymerlin: yeah, He came over for dinner and watching the 2 episodes of chuck from the week before.
12:33 <@Evilpig> critch i know about demanding guilds. we raid three nights a week
12:33 <@critch> Evilpig: you are the reason I know about them
12:34 <@Evilpig> 3 nights is pretty lax i know some that do 7 nights a week
12:34 < ware> k everythings on Magischer now and hopefully yall will see me online
12:35 <@critch> Evilpig: Well, I haven't had a night/day fully to myself since week ago Monday.
12:38 < ware> i got 14 slot bags
12:41 <@Dagmar> Why?
12:41 <@Dagmar> Buy netherweave bags
12:41 <@Dagmar> They usually go for about 5.50-6.50 on my server, and most others.
12:41 < ware> thats what evilpig sent me :D
12:41 <@Dagmar> Ah that cheap bastard
12:41 <@Dagmar> heh
12:42 < ware> i just consolidated all my resources into one character and i only have 22g
12:42 <@Dagmar> Well, you're still level n00b so it doesn't matter too much I guess
12:42 <@Dagmar> Ahhh level up
12:42 <@Dagmar> Seriously, that _is_ the answer to money issues
12:42 < ware> i just started back 2 weeks ago
12:42 < ware> my 27 pally has 1d9h played
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12:43 <@Dagmar> Okay so you're just starting to see the money curve steepening then
12:44 <@Dagmar> farming for money is pretty much a losing game until youre 70 because you can always get disproportionally more money from higher level mobs
12:44 <@Dagmar> Like, at 40 you might not have the cash for a mount, but by 44 it'll be practically spare change
12:45 < Obl> SkyDog - LadyMerlin - Macogw - Corydon:     Phish-Huuk 2.0 is ready.
12:45 < Obl> http://falselife.hackerpimps.com/index.php?topic=6.msg32#new
12:46 < Obl> Hi Dag
12:46 <@Dagmar> Ya might wanna smack that DNS server
12:47 <@Dagmar> Actually, make that the httpd
12:47 <@Dagmar> Finalyl
12:47 <@macogw> what?
12:48 < Obl> MAc - tal;ked last night about how much info google keeps on your searches.....
12:49 <@Dagmar> Meh I had to try five times to get the website to actually gimme a response
12:49 < Obl> what if you produced 23 TB a day of random text... would they store it anyway? and where?
12:49 < Obl> weird.... Mozilla and IE both popped up pretty fast here....
12:49 <@Dagmar> They woudln't.
12:49 <@Dagmar> They would just blacklist you.
12:49 <@polerin> Obl: it was responding slow here
12:49 <@polerin> :P
12:49 <@macogw> opened fine here
12:50 < Obl> lemmie try opera etc in ...crap.. wrong computer.
12:50 <@polerin> Obl: did you get the JS thing working hee?
12:50 <@polerin> err
12:50 <@polerin> the JS location=  thing working cleaner?
12:50 <@Dagmar> Obfuscating data trails is fine and dandy until it gets to teh point where you're incurring a monumentous amount of wasted resources
12:50 < Obl> yeah.... got to allow one popup though.....
12:51  * polerin needs to go look at the code then
12:51 < Obl> read the html code before allowing it to popup... easy to read and short
12:51 <@polerin> because there's likely a good way to build the string
12:51 < Obl> will work in any os... and any browser.
12:51 < Obl> have not tried it in a phone yet... any volenteers??
12:52 < Obl> the string?
12:52 < Obl> the?
12:52 < Obl> hehehehe
12:52 <@Dagmar> It's a good exercise, but I think ther'es got to be an easier way to solve that particular problem
12:52 < Obl> old version just used ONE engine...... this one uses five at the same time
12:53 < Obl> yeah... but it uses resources slowly.. but steady.... and wont store the CRAP on your own system
12:53 <@polerin> Obl: oh misunderstood what you were going for
12:54 < Obl> Dag... for my next project..  alternate reality and MySpace....
12:54 < Obl> Sysmin of hackerpimps gave lecture at defcon about building UNreliable systems
12:54 <@polerin> Obl: is there no way to use includes?
12:55 < Obl> to make any info about you available highly unreliable.
12:55 <@Dagmar> xroxy.com
12:55 < Obl> polerin...   I had not realy thought about it.... join the thread
12:56 <@polerin> Obl: because I can see how this could be refactored fairly easily, use the same wordlist, and allow for a search string of variable length
12:56 <@polerin> good idea though
12:57 < Obl> I've got attila testing a version with 5 words at a time
12:57 <@polerin> well
12:57 <@polerin> I see two immediate things that could be done
12:57 <@polerin> hold on
12:58 < Obl> cool..... I left it in simple EASY to read code for JUST THIS REASON....
12:58 <@polerin> :)
12:58 < Obl> so ANYONE looking at it can figure it out and make changes...
12:58 <@polerin> well the code may be a lil more complex, but not by much, and much easier for people to maintain ;D
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13:00 < Obl> Dag- the next project... Will make about 300 myspace pages.... all of them me.... all of them living about 6-50 miles apart... some with slight misspellings of my name... looking through photobucket etc for people that look KINDA like me.. hehehehe
13:00 < Obl> anyone who looks me up will have lots of me's to choose from.
13:01 < Obl> each identity will be signed up for mailing lists and email spam....to "prove" they are the real one.
13:02 <@polerin> heh
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13:04  * polerin is wiggling her fingers at this, gimmi halfsec.
13:04 < Obl> I thought of using that "myherritage" site for people who look like me,....
13:05 < Obl> and maybe morph the pix together... to confuse faceal recognition programs...hehehehe
13:07 <@Dagmar> Probably easier to simply keep yer private data offline
13:08 < Obl> nahhh...
13:08 < Obl> SOMETHING
13:09 < Obl>  always escapes..... sometimes the fault of other people signing u up fgor crap
13:10 <@polerin> http://pastebin.ca/886540
13:10 <@polerin> obl
13:10 <@polerin> your function on top
13:10 <@polerin> mine below
13:10 <@polerin> haven't tried it, prolly some tyops
13:10 <@polerin> but the basic idea should work
13:11 <@polerin> that way the end user doesn't have to fuck with the location string at all
13:11 <@polerin> and if they are semi technical they can add a new search simply by specifying a new spamHost and queryDelim
13:12 <@polerin> as well as add new search terms (and you can kill the count in it now... length autocounts :D )
13:13 <@polerin> also allows for quicker changing of how many search terms
13:14 <@Evilpig> neat.  http://transportation.ky.gov/RWIS/index.htm
13:17 <@polerin> the funny thing is I dont' even really try to keep my data offline
13:17 <@polerin> as Obl said, something always creeps
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13:27 <@seeblind> afternoon everybody
13:27 <@polerin> hi thar
13:28 <@seeblind> hey hey
13:31 <@critch> woohoo, I get a night to myself tonight. Friend called to tell me he wouldn't be able to get back into town early enough to work on his bike.
13:34 <@polerin> heh
13:34  * polerin nudges obl
13:34 <@polerin> you thar
13:41 <@Evilpig> bah.  stupid apache is segfaulting on me
13:46 <@SkyDog_> you fucking deserve it. :)
13:47 <@Evilpig> what I do this time?  sheesh
13:47  * Evilpig stomps on SkyDog_'s increasingly fatty toes
13:48  * SkyDog_ kicks Evilpig in his increasingly unused little dick.
13:51 <@Evilpig> who said it isn't being used?
13:51 <@Dagmar> Both hands on the keyboard, damnit
13:52 <@SkyDog_> eh.
13:52 <@SkyDog_> heh.
13:52 <@Dagmar> I love saying that in ##Slackware when it turns out someone's assuming I'm a girl
13:53 <@Evilpig> you're not a girl?
13:53 <@Dagmar> hah
13:53 <@Dagmar> I need to get the URL for that picture Mirage has of me at the office
13:53 <@Dagmar> It's a pretty good pic
13:54 <@Dagmar> smtp: Seriously thoh
13:56 <@Evilpig> I know there is something I have to do in order to get snmp info out of a netware box but I can't remember what
14:00 <@polerin> Dagmar: it's funny, I get exactly same reaction in reverse in most ones :P
14:00 <@Dagmar> Yes, but you cheat
14:00 <@polerin> except for counterstrike.. then it's just like .. "wait.. that's a girl..."
14:00 <@polerin> heh
14:01 <@polerin> no I get the "Wait.. girl.. in a tech channel?"
14:01 <@polerin> "I thoguht everyone in here was a guy"   :P
14:11 <@Mirage> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20030526
14:21 <@Mirage> Dagmar: http://www.thehippo.org/gallery2/v/vandy/vandy06/100_0185.JPG.html
14:23 <@Dagmar> Thanks
14:23 <@Dagmar> Now to gimp edit stupid shit into all the monitors
14:24 <@Dagmar> That big projection screen looks like it could have missile control system graphics on it doesn't it
14:28 <@Dagmar> OOO
14:28 <@Dagmar> We shall have a Gibson at the office
14:37 <@tzanger> awesome
14:37 <@tzanger> hack the gibson
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14:57 <@Shadow_Phone> OMG a GIBSON!!!
14:57 <@Dolemite> We've had a Gibson at the office for a while.  NotLarry brings his gee-tar in all the time.
15:01 <+coil> gibson
15:04 <@NotLarry> Selling the left handed strat as soon as Dolemite  gets out of the office
15:05 <@NotLarry> SkyDog_: Where is my UPC?
15:06 <@SkyDog_> NotLarry: You weren't at work on time.
15:06 <@SkyDog_> It's in my office.
15:06 <@NotLarry> yeah, on the drive in I figured out what happened.
15:07 <@SkyDog_> um, you overslept?
15:07 <@NotLarry> during the daylight savings time debacle, I discovered i had to plug my phone in to the pc at night so it would have the correct time
15:07 <@NotLarry> When I was driving in, I realized my phone was set for may 12, 2006 at 11:27pm when I woke up:)
15:08 <@NotLarry> When I was your age our alarm clocks used springs
15:08 <@NotLarry> shadowmoss: swears she didn't "touch my hardware."
15:09 <@SkyDog_> LIkely excuse.
15:09 <@Neoteric> http://www.ietf.org/
15:09 <@Neoteric> err...
15:09 <@Neoteric> can anyone else get to http://www.ietf.org/
15:09 <@SkyDog_> I if have heard that one once, I have heard it a million times.
15:09 <+coil> no
15:11 <@NotLarry> ok, how about this, my accountant called me and woke me up to tell me we were not meeting?
15:11 <@NotLarry> or, the power was out for two hours yesterday?
15:11 <@NotLarry> any of those work?
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15:22 < Obl> ietf.org... nothing here...
15:23 < Obl> was captures by aliens.... and JUST NOW made it back over the border...
15:25 <@Evilpig> anyone ever used this apache command before?  RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER}
15:25 <@polerin> Obl: ping.
15:25 < Obl> pong
15:26 <@polerin> been chewing on this, I think I can make it simpler :)
15:26 <@polerin> two files
15:26 <@polerin> three if you want to seperate out spam list from it
15:26 < Obl> cool
15:27 <@Mirage> Evilpig: that's what i've been fucking with..rewrite rules
15:27 < Obl> glad to share credit in the readme
15:28 <@polerin> Obl: I don't really care about the credit, it's a fun hack and I like the idea
15:28 < Obl> me too.. hehehe
15:29 < Obl> I tried it a few other ways, but it always fell apart....
15:30 <@polerin> well i've done weird things with javascript before so.. yeah :D
15:30 < Obl> need a fresh set of eyes... and testers for weird obscure browsers too
15:31 <@Evilpig> well here's what I have.
15:31 <@Evilpig>    RewriteEngine On
15:31 <@Evilpig>    RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} 204.184.26.2/ntop
15:31 <@Evilpig>    RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/ntop
15:31 <@Evilpig>    RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ http://204.184.26.2/ntop/$1 [L,P]
15:31 <@NotLarry> Anyone use ie 7?
15:31 <@Evilpig> but it doesn't seem to recognize the IP in the log or something best I can tell
15:31 <+coil> 8
15:32 <@Evilpig> I can see the refer lines in the log.  but it doesn't do the rewrite so the condition must not be getting met
15:32 <@Evilpig> ie  [Thu Jan 31 15:30:31 2008] [error] [client 208.44.252.13] File does not exist: /var/www/firewall/plugins, referer: http://204.184.26.2/ntop/
15:33 < Obl> polerin....  was also thinking of using a random proxy.......
15:33 <+coil> tor
15:33 < Obl> further obscures you... but lets you send more search requests from different places...
15:34 < Obl> ramping it up to 300 random search objects at once... every 2 milliseconds... would get you shut down as a dos attack....
15:35 < Obl> but if it was comming from 4000 diff servers..... at only 6-7 words in a string every 20 sec...
15:35 <@polerin> Obl: well, doesn't that sorta defeat the purpose of just putting a whole bunch of crap loosly associated with you?
15:35 <@polerin> :P
15:35 < Obl> would not slow net traffic at any one point by very much... and would be almost invisible
15:36 < Obl> but trying to get me to fit ONE SINGLE demographic.......
15:36 < Obl> buys tampons... AND penis pills.......
15:37 < Obl> looking for house in seattle and in miami art same time
15:37 < Obl> church of christ jewish islamic
15:37 < Obl> makes all the info worthless
15:37 <@NotLarry> I'm ordained in that church
15:38 < Obl> searching for keywords to norrow it down = I fit EVERY profile....
15:38 < Obl> no computer could sort it
15:38 < Obl> would take an army of humans years to build a reliable profile
15:38 < Obl> = expensive
15:39 < Obl> (Touches notlarry on shoulder with big sharp metal pointy thing) arise bishop notlarry
15:40 <@polerin> Obl: did you see the pastebin earlier?
15:40 < Obl> no had to step out for emergency.. hehehe
15:41 < Obl> opened it... but still settleing in again
15:41 < Obl> im in 4 dif rooms....
15:41 < Obl> house... not chat
15:42 < ware> holy fuckin wow cow ow now brown sow
15:43 < Obl> ohh ok.. cool....... will test it in a bit, still eating.. but can release new updated version later today... heh heh
15:44 < ware> fucking sonicwall licenses pwnt me
15:44 < ware> trying to get a goddamned iphone online via teh wifi here
15:45 < ware> through a wrt
15:45 < ware> and it was the licenses on the sonciwall. *head desk*
15:45 < Obl> polerin.... imagine if everyone on the planet was running  this at the same time....
15:46 <@polerin> heh
15:46 <@polerin> well, that isn't the finished versino
15:46 <@polerin> version
15:46 <@polerin> but it's an easy start
15:47 <@polerin> I'm currently doing it so all the JS is contained in your Spam_Launcher.htm
15:48 < Obl> cool.... original version worked in a frame above your startpage.... but dissapeared to easy
15:48 < Obl> the popup can be minimized and stay running independantly
15:49 < Obl> thought about using seperate tab.... but all that compatability coding cross-browser....
15:50 < Obl> and some people still dont support tabs
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15:51 <@polerin> hmm
15:52 < Obl> if it took more than 2 min for me to type.... I did it another way.....
15:52 <@polerin> heh
15:52 < Obl> like.... ABC would NOT go into the launching script..... but XYZ would....
15:52 <@polerin> i'm trying to do this while taking inbounds :P
15:53 <@polerin> basicly i'm just refactoring your code and adding one more thing.
15:53 < Obl> so i added x y and z...... but now te code is a bit longer than i would like
15:53 <@polerin> well, you don't actually even need it (as you see)
15:53 <@polerin> just loop through and add it to the end
15:54 < Obl> the 4 search version we tested at Attilla's place had abc&d .. and a=w b=x c=y d=z
15:54 <@polerin> oh, there's a bug there, forgot that .length  is last key + 1
15:54 <@polerin> yeah see you don't need that
15:55 <@polerin> no need for variables at all
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15:56 < Obl> yeah..... I just had a quick idea... and my brain jumped on it..... prob was... brain was wired in qbasic
15:56 <@polerin> ;p
15:56 < Obl> heehehheh... was the natural and obvious way to get it done quickly
15:57 < Obl> actualy.... scratch that.. beforte qbasic I was coding on comodore... vic 20
15:58 < Obl> my bib bro taught my on comodore pet... hahahahahaha
15:58 < Obl> wow... chopstics cause a lot of typos
16:03 < Obl> I like the idea of a centralized list of spam entries and serch strings for dif engines....
16:03 < Obl> search
16:03 < Obl> but............
16:04 < Obl> getting people to trust an app on a remote machine.....
16:09 < Obl> for anyone just joining us... take a look at Phish-Huuk and let me know what you think...
16:09 < Obl> http://falselife.hackerpimps.com/index.php?topic=6.msg32#new
16:10 < Obl> http://falselife.hackerpimps.com/index.php?topic=6.0      hey Dag- does this link work better for you?
16:11 < Obl> the #new might have been what was throwing your browser off earlier..
16:12 < ware> OL NUTJOB
16:12 < ware> havent seen this much js ajaxulation since billys talk!
16:12 < Obl> hehe
16:19 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=make-way-for-the-q-wii-n%26method=full%26objectid=20276099%26siteid=93463-name_page.html
16:19 <@ShadowHntr> I think we have a winner.
16:19 <@ShadowHntr> :)
16:28 < Obl> queen of the bowling alley... hehehhee.. i mean... wii wii wii wii
16:29 < Obl> polerin.... you going to the "meet the feds" event tomorrow?
16:29 <@polerin> Obl: where is it?
16:29 <@polerin> and likely no
16:29 <@polerin> ;P
16:30 < Obl> nashville 2600 meeting
16:30 <@polerin> oh, hm possibly
16:30 < Obl> 2 members of the FBI supposed to be there
16:30 <@polerin> I'm not overly concerned about it, i'm not higly active anyway ;P
16:30 < Obl> brb
16:34 <+coil> ihhihihihihihiiiiiiiii
16:34 < ware> hai u trollin?
16:34 <+coil> no
16:34 < ware> lrn2thnx
16:35 <+coil> lrn22
16:35 < ware> no u
16:35 <+coil> stfu
16:35 < ware> stab u thnx
16:36 <+coil> kk
16:36 <@Corydon76-vcch> coil: remember what I said about acting like ware
16:36 <@tzanger> lorl
16:36 <+coil> i actually forgot :(
16:36 < ware> hahaha
16:37 < ware> lrn2notactlikemethnx
16:37 < ware> 4urgoodplz
16:37 <+coil> he started it
16:37 <+coil> i think ware should be banned
16:37 < ware> what?! why
16:37 < ware> ive been good lately
16:37 <+coil> it's just my opinion
16:37 <+coil> not like it matters
16:38 < Obl> what time frame we talking?
16:38 < Obl> lately = last 4.3 seconds?
16:38 < ware> like the past 2 months
16:38 < ware> haha
16:38 <+coil> liar
16:39 < Obl> well... seizure laterz
16:39 <+coil> lol my roommate walks in with his poor kitty
16:39 < Obl> see whoever tomorrow......
16:39 <+coil> and he was like "i just got back from the vet..they just spay and neutered her"
16:39 <+coil> i dont think he should have a pet
16:40 < ware> rofl
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16:40 < ware> spay neuter thnx
16:41 <+coil> !minicity
16:41 <@brimstone> Population: 10055 Revenues: 2343850 Unemployment: 0% Transports: 100% Criminality: 1% Pollution: 0% 18 ahead of loloclaudie
16:46 <@Evilpig> [30/01] loloclaudie:  salut au futur premier :) moi j'ai trop la flemme de cliquer sur le site de minivil
16:46 <+coil> wtf did he say
16:46 <@Evilpig> Hi first to the future:) I have too lazy to click on the site minivil ?
16:46 < ware> *shrug*
16:47 <+coil> minivil?
16:47 <@brimstone> vil == city?
16:47 <+coil> what language is that
16:47 <@brimstone> french
16:47 <+coil> ohh
16:48 < ware> its mongolian
16:48 <+coil> thx ware
16:48 < ware> err wait. we're in madagascar not mongolia
16:49 < ware> haha do they speak french there? i thought the animals just talked
16:49 <+coil> yeah'
16:49 <@polerin> feh.  I can't test this till I get home
16:49 <+coil> usa is huge
16:49 <@polerin> no way I'm doing this from inside the corperate network
16:49 <+coil> test what?
16:49 <@polerin> the code i'm working on
16:49 <+coil> oh
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16:50 <+coil> what code ? :P
16:50 <@polerin> refactoring obls stuff
16:50 <+coil> oh
16:50 <@polerin> some javascript, not hard, but deas with words that I dont' want hitting the proxy here X{
16:50 <@Evilpig> I don't think this guy knows what he is doing with the router
16:50 < ware> im sure if google or yahoo or whoever wanted to they would figure out the pattern or list of items being 'randomly' searched
16:50 < ware> and filter it out to see what youve really been surfing
16:51 < ware> but alas, they dont give a shit
16:51  * ware puts his tinfoil hat back on
16:51 < ware> i gotta go hack a PIX in a min
16:51 <+coil> i want to make a proxy for my lan
16:52 <@brimstone> lrn2squid coil
16:52 <+coil> that's what it's called
16:52 < ware> to spy on your roomies?
16:52 <+coil> yes
16:53 <+coil> lol
16:53 <+coil> and block certain sites
16:53 < ware> coil: checkout pfsense
16:53 < ware> it has it all modularized and guify'd
16:53 <+coil> gui on a server?
16:53 < ware> hai mah namez web app n ima gui
16:54 <+coil> oh
16:54 < ware> u kan haz akces frum ur br0wzr
16:55 <+coil> oh hax i has to recompile
16:56 < ware> h0 sn4p!
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17:03 <@ShadowHntr> coil: it's a turnkey embedded firewall with proxy solution
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> powered by openBSD
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> or is it FreeBSD
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> lol i use m0n0wall.
17:04 <@ShadowHntr> FreeBSD-based.
17:04 <@ShadowHntr> my mistake.
17:04 <@ShadowHntr> rather nice system
17:04 <@ShadowHntr> i originally wanted pfSense but it wouldn't work on the hardware i used so i fell back to m0n0wall
17:05 < ware> it is ftw megalo to a t, beat the west side with a whip and hang em in a tree, etc
17:05 < ware> pfsense > m0n0wall
17:05 < ware> 10x over
17:05 < ware> get new hardware
17:05 < ware> what are you using now?
17:05 <@ShadowHntr> converted thin client
17:06 <@ShadowHntr> 300mhz geode
17:06 <@ShadowHntr> 128mb ram i think
17:06 < ware> onboard nics that wouldnt recognize or something?
17:06 <@ShadowHntr> no
17:07 <@ShadowHntr> won't get past bootloader
17:07 <@ShadowHntr> for some odd reason
17:07 <@ShadowHntr> it's using a compactflash card for storage.
17:07 < ware> may be why
17:07 <@ShadowHntr> with a cf-ide adapter
17:07 <@ShadowHntr> when i get back into my apt i'll look into it
17:08 <@ShadowHntr> i need to re-flash it with latest firmware anyway
17:08 < ware> i use an old dell box with 4 NICs
17:08 < ware> i wanted to see if a linksys pci wifi card would work as an interface
17:08 <@ShadowHntr> it has onboard realtek nic and a 3com 3c905
17:08 < ware> but im not sure if pfsense would support it
17:08 <@ShadowHntr> m0n0 has served me well though
17:08 <@ShadowHntr> i don't have much reason now to move to pfSense except for traffic analysis
17:09 < ware> off to replace an IPS and hack the gibson
17:09 <@ShadowHntr> and i already have traffic shaping capability on m0n0 haven't tested it yet
17:09 < ware> bbl
17:09 <@ShadowHntr> hehehehe
17:20 <+coil> ~weather for 78247
17:20 <+MxZBot> It's Clear in San Antonio, Texas. It's 59 F (41 M, 15 C, 288 K).  Wind to the NNW at 21Mph/33Kph.
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17:46 <@Shadow_Phone> ~weather 30127
17:46 <+MxZBot> It's Light Rain in Powder Springs, GA, Powder Springs, Georgia. It's 40.2 F (12 M, 4 C, 277 K).
17:47 <@Shadow_Phone> wrong, its 38.7
17:59 <+coil> lol
18:06 <@dasunt> Sonicwalls can eat shit.
18:06 <@dasunt> For the price, they seem to be less reliable than the cheapo dlinks.
18:07 <@dasunt> Current trick one is playing on me -- locally, I can connect to a machine, remotely (through the sonicwall's one-to-one nat) it laughs.
18:08 <@sdodson> Shadow_Phone: stfu
18:08 <@sdodson> No one gives a damn about 1.5F
18:09 <@tcstool> dasunt:  Have you seen those 105 buck Linksys routers that have VPN, web content filtering, and IPS? WE got a couple at the shop, very sweet
18:09 <@tcstool> much better than sonicwalls
18:10 <@dasunt> tcstool: $105?
18:10 <@tcstool> our cost on them was 105
18:11 < ware> tcstool: wee cbotc.
18:11 <@tcstool> http://www.mtnstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=17272
18:11 <@tcstool> 138 there, so still comparable
18:11 <@tcstool> and cheaper than a shitty sonicwall
18:11 <@tcstool> ware:  what happened?
18:11 < ware> replacing an IPS and as usual shit isnt worknig as advertised
18:11 < ware> im on the phone with big e and hes on the phone with reflex
18:11 <@tcstool> Gee imagine that, something Jason configured isn't working
18:11 < ware> ROFL
18:11 < ware> i think eric configured this one
18:12 <@tcstool> Nah, if it's the same one I put in then Jason configured it
18:12 <@tcstool> Those reflex devices are pieces of shit anyways
18:12 < ware> i installed a saint scanner for him a couple weeks ago and it was fine
18:12 < ware> haha now hes talkin shit about me to the reflex guy rofl
18:12 < ware> 'yeah we got our noob out on site'
18:12 <@tcstool> Eric is a dickhead
18:13 < ware> well theres rumor steve sold the company
18:13 <@tcstool> oh yeah?
18:13 <@tcstool> finally?
18:13 < ware> the whole name change thing is a fasade
18:13 <@tcstool> Figured that much
18:13 <@tcstool> wonder who bought it
18:14 < ware> i had a sweet offer in asheville
18:14 <@tcstool> that's a pretty decent place
18:14 < ware> i like it alot
18:14 <@tcstool> good job?
18:15 < ware> oh i meant here :D
18:15 < ware> that other job was sweet
18:15 < ware> im sure i could get 45k in the door
18:15 < ware> company car, benefits and options
18:16 < ware> but SkyDog_ said i shouldnt go
18:16 <@tcstool> Go for it
18:16 < ware> and i got cold feet
18:16 <@tcstool> Heh
18:16 < ware> well fuck if shit changes here i probably will
18:16 <@sdodson> why'd skydog tell you not to?
18:16 < ware> questdiagnostics.com
18:16 <@tcstool> Maybe whoever bought the company will hurry up and shut down cookeville
18:16 < ware> he said i should stay here and goto school
18:16 < Synx_hm> Does sirius only work CONUS?
18:17 <@sdodson> go to school
18:17 <@sdodson> read a book
18:17 < ware> well i wouldnt be surprised if he sells it and they just drop us and take over our clients
18:17 <@tcstool> having a degree would help
18:17 < ware> cause apparently theyre a huge company
18:17 < ware> all this is 2nd hand info from someone at work who didnt want to be named
18:17 <@tcstool> Is it Maxim?
18:17 < ware> dunno
18:17 <@tcstool> That's very interesting
18:17 < ware> we were drunk when he was telling me this
18:17 < ware> haha
18:18 <@tcstool> what happened, Jason drank 1/4th of a corona and blabbed?
18:19 < ware> haha
18:19 <@tcstool> dasunt:  You check that link out? We like them so far
18:19 < ware> shelby took us all out for drinks and paid
18:19 <@tcstool> you're joking
18:19 <@tcstool> that's pretty damn hilarious
18:19 < ware> then i noticed the waitress holding the company card when i came back from the bathroom
18:19 < ware> so i gave him shit about it before we left :P
18:19 <@tcstool> He bitched Jason out for drinking when he first came onboard
18:19 < ware> lol
18:20 < ware> yeah we ordered beer all the way around
18:20 < ware> then he was last to order
18:20 <@tcstool> that's awesome
18:20 < ware> and he gets a margarita hahaha
18:20 <@tcstool> that's so great dude
18:20 <@tcstool> Man
18:20 <@tcstool> that's something
18:21 <@dasunt> This is a bad fucking firewall.
18:21 <@dasunt> Jebus.
18:21 <@dasunt> I shouldn't be arguing about it.
18:21 <@tcstool> Sonicwalls are horrrible
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18:21 <@dasunt> No firewall on server?  Check.  Network settings sane?  Check.  Can connect locally?  Check.  Cannot connect through firewall?  Check.
18:21 <@tcstool> and I used to work for a reseller and have configured probably 300 or so
18:21 <@tcstool> they're so unreliable
18:24 < ware> i think theyre alright
18:24 < ware> but i have limited experience with them
18:25 < ware> haha although we ran out of licenses on one of em today
18:25 < ware> and i was troubleshooting why $docs iphone wouldnt connect
18:26 < ware> it was the sonicwall
18:26 <@tcstool> yeah I've got one sitting at the office I'm waiting on an unlimited license for
18:26 <@tcstool> same problem
18:26 < ware> crazy
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18:27 <@Catonic> that cort id10t bought airtime here
18:27 < ware> well im learning alot here and making decent money compared to what i have been
18:27 < ware> and i like working with sean and donnie
18:27 <@tcstool> Frontier told them it was broken so they pulled it out of line
18:27 <@tcstool> Yeah
18:27 <@tcstool> Sean is a good teacher
18:27 <@Catonic> I like working with sean, shawn, and seamus.
18:27 < ware> we've been playing WoW alot the past 2 weeks
18:27 <@tcstool> Yeah he told me
18:28 <@tcstool> I try to play with him on Friday nights
18:28 < ware> you need to jump on later tonight or tomorrow and grind us through gnomer
18:28 <@tcstool> Hey let's plan on doing that tomorrow night
18:28 < ware> ah cool, friday im usually out but i can play for a couple hours tomorrow night
18:28 <@tcstool> I can't tonight but I definitely want to pop ono tomorrow
18:28 < ware> cool
18:29 < ware> we're lvl 26~ right now
18:29 <@tcstool> Sean and I usually play on Fridays
18:29 < ware> with just over a day of /played time
18:29 <@tcstool> Last friday I had to pop off our mail server at work went down
18:29 < ware> haha yeah sean took the network down at work the other day
18:30 <@tcstool> Yeah when he was testing SAINT he blew the network up in the middle of the day
18:30 <@Catonic> SAINT?
18:31 < ware> he turned off spanning tree on a switch and it killed
18:31 <@tcstool> yeah ware works for some gay company that uses saint
18:31 <@tcstool> I don't know who told him to go work there
18:31 < ware> :P
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18:32 < ware> Sean says hi
18:32 < ware> im on the phone
18:32 < ware> with em*
18:32 <@tcstool> sweet
18:33 <@tcstool> Tell him I'm sure he's jealous that I'm sitting eating chips and watching TV instead of working
18:35  * ware grumbles something about lucky sob's
18:36 <@Catonic> I don't work on thursdays or fridays.
18:36 < ware> ROFL @ hold msg at work
18:36 < ware> ahhaha ive never heard that before
18:36 < Synx_hm> anybody able to log on to msn
18:36 < Synx_hm> messenger that is
18:37 <@ShadowHntr> i'm on
18:37 < ware> 'with our advanced remote access tool, we can resolve your issues remotely, saving you time and money'
18:37 <@tcstool> Oh yeah
18:37 <@tcstool> and the datacenter
18:37 <@tcstool> where they do 24 hour network monitoring
18:38 <@Catonic> whatis saint?
18:38 <@Catonic> a network breaking tool?
18:38 <@tcstool> It's a "security testing" automated tool that makes pretty PDF reports
18:38 <@tcstool> but that's about all it's good for
18:39 <@tcstool> ware:  cause nobody else has remote desktop
18:39 < ware> yeah rofl
18:39 <@tcstool> Catonic:  the funniest part is it requires you to execute it as root
18:43 < ware> stupid reflex
18:44 <@tcstool> yeah
18:44 <@tcstool> overpriced devices running snort
18:44 < ware> sonicwall is blocking something
18:44 < ware> with the shared key at the colo
18:45 < ware> blah blah i dunno but its all homosexual
18:45 <@tcstool> We could probably build those things for 90 bucks
18:45 < ware> cause my german sister has a hot friend jessica from spain
18:45 <+coil> is realtek good for gigabit?
18:45 < ware> and they have called me twice wondering where im at
18:45 < ware> and why im not over there yet.
18:45 < ware> tcstool: lets do it
18:45 <@ShadowHntr> it seems like the last three big players in networking chipsets is Realtek, Broadcom and Marvell...
18:45 <@ShadowHntr> any that i'm missing?
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> Lucent doesn't make chips any more...
18:46 <@tcstool> ShadowHntr:  Intel
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> tcstool: true.
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> thanks for catching that
18:46 <@tcstool> All you have to do is download 63 megs of drivers for them
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> lol yeah
18:46 <@tcstool> since they only have one all inclusive drivers package
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> which is all gui and no drivers
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> :P
18:46 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
18:47 <+coil> i need cat6 for gigabit?
18:47 <+coil> or would 5e be fine?
18:47 < ware> 5e
18:47 <@dasunt> I can connect out from this computer that should be 1-to-1 natted.
18:47 <@dasunt> I can't connect in to it.
18:47 <@tcstool> 6 is better
18:47 <@dasunt> Is there anything else other than the firewall that could be the problem?
18:47 < ware> mo'betta
18:48 <@tcstool> anything in the sonicwall logs?
18:48 < ware> dasunt: take a break
18:48 < ware> drink more
18:48 < ware> then come back to it
18:48 < ware> tcstool: yeah i found it and started to look thru the firewall policys
18:48 < ware> and eric said 'ima jump in and do it'
18:49 < ware> so im listening to him read the policies off to $douchenut at reflex
18:49 <@tcstool> Who I'm sure is a Sonic OS enhanced expert
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18:49 < ware> got certified twice
18:49 < ware> lol
18:49 < ware> </sarcasm>
18:49 < ware> well i should get shelby to put me up in a hotel
18:49 <@tcstool> Damn straight
18:50 < ware> then half a place to invite the gal to
18:50 < ware> :D
18:50 <@tcstool> tell him I'll rent you a couch for 30 bucks
18:50 < ware> err have
18:50 < ware> haha
18:50 <@tcstool> Oh yeah it's Thursday
18:50 <@tcstool> the Joe will be bouncing
18:50 < ware> i heard em talkin about that
18:51 < ware> we went to the library one thursday night i was up here
18:51 < ware> haha
18:51 < ware> and didnt leave til 2am
18:51 <@tcstool> Never been to that place
18:51 <@tcstool> too scary
18:51 < ware> well i had to be at work in nashville
18:51 < ware> at 9
18:51 < ware> and i think i woke up at 8 still drunk
18:51 < ware> never doing that again
18:51 < ware> 'ive never even used a sonicwall' -reflex guy just now
18:52 < ware> i kinda wanna goto a poolhall
18:52 < ware> sis's roomie said hes been wanting to go since i started coming up here but every night he has something to do
18:53 <@tcstool> So was this working and it stopped or what?
18:53 < ware> replaced for some reason
18:53 < ware> and i dont know why
18:53 <@tcstool> shit already?
18:53 < ware> the other one probably quit scanning cause some reflex douche fucked the software on it or something
18:54 <@tcstool> I think I put the other one back in like 5 months ago
18:54 < ware> 'failed during an upgrade'
18:54 < ware> he just said
18:54 < ware> 'the flash memory chip probably went bad'
18:55 <@tcstool> so you're deploying the same device behind a sonicwall with the same set of rules....
18:55 < ware> same config
18:55 <@tcstool> and it's not working, and he's blaming the sonicwall
18:55 <@tcstool> hmmm
18:55 < ware> i dont see why it isnt working either
18:55 < ware> well we can see the ssh attempts getting blocked in the sonicwall
18:56 <@tcstool> Jason probably fucked it up when he reloaded the sonicwall
18:56 < ware> hehe
18:57 < ware> but i can ssh from the ips to here :D
18:57 < ware> rofl
18:57 <@tcstool> that's awesome
18:57 < ware> <3 screen
18:58 <@Catonic> ware: I think you have a drinking problem
18:58 < ware> man i had to troubleshoot prologics for a long ass time
18:58 < ware> cause the MTU wasnt set on the sonicwall he setup
18:58 <@tcstool> that stupid Citrix shit?
18:58 < ware> and i havent fucked with DSL alot
18:58 < ware> well theres 8 bits you have to reserve for pppoe or something
18:58 < ware> so you drop it from 1500 to 1492
18:59 <@tcstool> who knows
19:01 < ware> i know im hungry and want to see this girl again.
19:01 <@tcstool> It took FOREVER to convince Jason they weren't accessing the databae across the VPN on that project
19:01 < ware> and i still gotta hack this cisco
19:01 < ware> rofl yeah... hes.... special
19:01 <@tcstool> What at CBOTC?
19:01 < ware> but they all call me the noob at work
19:01 <@tcstool> the one Sean lost the password to?
19:01 < ware> yeah
19:01 < ware> rofl
19:01 <@tcstool> Yeah that's because you don't have your nose up Shelby's ass
19:02 <@tcstool> You can reset the password on that really easily though
19:02 < ware> thats what we're gonna do
19:02 <@tcstool> Yeah
19:02 <@tcstool> good old ROMMON mode
19:02 < ware> i thought it was a pix
19:02 <@tcstool> nah
19:02 <@tcstool> You can reset the password on that too, but it's a little more involved
19:03 < ware> i was readin about that
19:03 < ware> the reflex guy has had this chick with him
19:03 < ware> for the entire call
19:03 <@tcstool> Yeah, gotta download a file and upload via tftp
19:03 < ware> you can hear her in the background asking when they were going to leave
19:03 < ware> and how they gotta meet someone hahaa
19:03 <@tcstool> that's awesome
19:03 <@tcstool> he should tell Eric to figure it out himself
19:03 <@tcstool> which Eric would probably do
19:03 <@dasunt> Think I crashed the sonicwall.
19:03 <@dasunt> Great.
19:03 <@dasunt> Fucking POS.
19:04 <@tcstool> rock on
19:04 <@tcstool> 192.168.168.168
19:04 <@dasunt> Basically told it "okay, accept port 25 from anywhere", and it went "okay.  *die*"
19:04 < ware> :D
19:04 <@dasunt> AFAIK, port 25 shouldn't interfere with port 80 (web access), but obviously I'm not as smert as sonicwall is.
19:05 <@tcstool> This is OS standard or Enhanced OS?
19:05 <@dasunt> Standard.
19:05 <@dasunt> Telnet doesn't work.
19:05 <@dasunt> FUCKING POS.
19:05 < ware> ah shit
19:05 <@tcstool> noope
19:05 <@tcstool> You can console to it though
19:05 < ware> i think they just saw where i ssh'd out
19:05 < ware> hahaha
19:05  * ware shuts up
19:05 <@dasunt> tcstool: Serial?
19:05 <@tcstool> Is it a SOHO3 or a TZ?
19:06 <@dasunt> SOHO3.
19:06 <@tcstool> Yeah
19:06 <@dasunt> Hmmmm.
19:06 <@tcstool> straight serial should do it then
19:06 <@dasunt> Not on site.
19:06 <@dasunt> Fuck, fuck, fuck.
19:06 <@tcstool> shouldn't have died like that
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19:06 <@tcstool> can you ping it?
19:06 <@dasunt> tcstool: Yes.
19:06 <@NotLarry> ok, but let me put on some mood music first
19:07 <@tcstool> But the web console died?
19:07 <@tcstool> are you using ViewPoint?
19:08 <@dasunt> Nope.
19:08 <@tcstool> hm
19:09 <@tcstool> I've seen that happen before, usually gotta give it a hard reboot; Most of the time it's when Viewpoint is used though
19:09 <@dasunt> Oh good.
19:09 <@dasunt> Mailed my boss with teh log message from the firewall, with the log from the firewall saying that the connection is dropped (rule #whatever).
19:09 <@dasunt> He mailed me back saying it is the email scanner dropping it.
19:09 <@dasunt> NO, DAMNIT, IT ISN'T!
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19:10 <@dasunt> Here's my problem -- I agreed to do this while sick with the flu, remotely.
19:10 <@tzanger> dasunt: idjit
19:10 <@tcstool> Been there before
19:10 <@dasunt> Yes, I am.
19:11 <@tcstool> usually the sonicwall is controlling the VPN or internet circuit when I had jto work on them
19:11 <@tzanger> I think everyone's done that
19:11 <@tcstool> so the connection would just die and you'd have no idea what happened
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19:12 <@dasunt> *nods*
19:12 <+coil> dasunt: hi
19:13 < remoford> goddamnit
19:13 < remoford> all my alcholic friends are in a rehab phase
19:14 <@someninjamaster> haha
19:14 < remoford> and all my non-alcholic friends arent answer the fucking phone
19:14 < remoford> and i can drive to the bar
19:14 < remoford> but i prolly wouldnt make it back
19:14 < remoford> and this is turning into one sucky birthday
19:14 <@dasunt> remoford: I'm not in rehab!
19:15 <@someninjamaster> yeah
19:15 <@someninjamaster> hook up with dasunt
19:15 <@someninjamaster> or ware
19:15 < remoford> and mr dba done hosed my oracle scripts as a birthday present
19:15 <@someninjamaster> nice
19:15 < remoford> dasunt: you in nashville?
19:15 < remoford> ill go drinking with anyone but corydon
19:15 <@Mirage> happy ending
19:15 <@Mirage> ?
19:15 < remoford> no offense corydon
19:16 <@dasunt> remoford: Nope, Minneapolis.
19:16 < remoford> well then
19:16 <+scort> 1234
19:16 <@someninjamaster> wares local
19:16 <@someninjamaster> just keep him away from chairs
19:17 <@dasunt> WTF would a firewall kill itself when a port 25 rule is changed?
19:17 <@dasunt> WTF?
19:17 <@dasunt> Seriousl.
19:17 < remoford> i guess i could tie the tree that fell down in this storm the other day to my car and go drive around
19:17 < remoford> could provide some entertainment
19:17 <@someninjamaster> haha
19:17 < remoford> dasunt: b/c you arent using the one and only iptables
19:17 <@dasunt> remoford: Yes.  But iptables is unlikely here (only linux guy)
19:18 < remoford> thats a good think
19:18 < remoford> then you know noone else is gonna go fuck it up while you arent paying attn
19:18 <@NotLarry> remoford: Why won'[t you drink with Corydon76-vcch ?
19:18 <@someninjamaster> haha
19:18 <@someninjamaster> http://nsfw-comix.com/nsfw.htm and incase you didnt read nsfw
19:19 <@NotLarry> is it safe for work?
19:19 <+coil> remoford: it only hurts for a minute
19:19 <@someninjamaster> depends on where you work
19:19 <@someninjamaster> if its a brothel or porno shop
19:19 <@someninjamaster> you would proably be ok
19:19 <@wontonjoe> afternoon
19:21 <@NotLarry> remoford: You dindn't answer my question, why won't you go drinking with Corydon?
19:21 <+coil> high NotLarry
19:21 <+coil> lets get high NotLarry
19:21 <@Mirage> he's abd enough straight
19:22 <@someninjamaster> anyway he swaped to pussy
19:23 < remoford> well
19:23 < remoford> i guess ill get trashed in the comfort of my own home
19:23 < remoford> it is nasty out there
19:24 <@dasunt> ` Damnit.
19:24 < remoford> i could short this lipo battery and see what happens
19:24 < remoford> i wonder if its 50$ worth of entertainment
19:24 < remoford> hrm
19:24 <@critch> doubt it
19:24 <@someninjamaster> do you still have the caseless computer there
19:25 < remoford> i havent run caseless since highschool
19:25 < remoford> i went to laptops
19:25 <@someninjamaster> i remember
19:25 <@someninjamaster> you had that gateway with the busted drive in highschool
19:25 < remoford> that was a nice mobo for 20$ tho
19:25 < remoford> 200mhz
19:26 < remoford> yeauh
19:26 < remoford> oh man that gateway sucked
19:26 <@Corydon76-vcch> someninjamaster: I didn't swap.  I've always been bi.  Y'all simply didn't believe me.
19:27 < remoford> i belive you
19:27 <+coil> remoford: lets
19:27 <@someninjamaster> that gateway was running redhat wasnt it
19:27 <@Corydon76-vcch> After the 2nd kid, someone might...
19:28 <@NotLarry> well Corydon, I was disapointed you didn't come out to my birthday party the other night
19:28 <@Corydon76-vcch> NotLarry: I didn't know it was your birthday
19:29 <@someninjamaster> he wasnt turning 18
19:29 <@NotLarry> haha
19:29 <@someninjamaster> thats why you didnt sense it
19:29 <@NotLarry> not for about 30 years
19:30 <@someninjamaster> notlarry: your in whites creek arnt you
19:30 <@NotLarry> yeah, well, not right now, but later
19:31 <@someninjamaster> have you ever eaten at richards cafe
19:31 <@critch> thats some good food
19:31 <@NotLarry> The cajun place?  not yet but I eye it when I go by
19:31 <@someninjamaster> my friends dad owns it
19:31 <@someninjamaster> but i havent made it buy yet
19:31 <@someninjamaster> by
19:31 <@critch> Dude loves it when my friends and I come in.
19:32 <@critch> We show up with about 15 people and take over the back area
19:32 <@someninjamaster> haha
19:32 <@critch> food is pretty good, and the music isn't bad on occasion.
19:32 <@someninjamaster> richard lives across the street from me
19:32 <@critch> thought it funny that they don't open till like 6pm, but have free wifi
19:33 <@someninjamaster> yeah
19:33 <@someninjamaster> the health department caused that
19:33 <@critch> why?
19:33 <@someninjamaster> he cant open untill the bank, the plumber and the other shop close
19:33 <@someninjamaster> parking
19:34 <@critch> WTF, I could see that for codes or even metro police, but health said he needed parking?
19:34 <@someninjamaster> it may have been codes
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19:34 <@someninjamaster> the owners of the star cafe had no permits
19:34 < Synx_hm> anyone watch mythbusters last night
19:34 <@someninjamaster> they wernt even being inspected
19:35 <@someninjamaster> they didnt even have a buisness licence
19:35 < Synx_hm> that pilot needs to have his license revoked, oh thats right, he prob doesn't have one (dont need a true power raiting for ultra light)
19:35 < Synx_hm> he obviously had either smoked a ton of pot that morning, or had no idea of the concepts of flight
19:36 < remoford> yeah
19:36 < remoford> that was pretty damn funny
19:36 <@someninjamaster> i wonder if that might be why the ultralights fall out of the sky all the time
19:36 < remoford> do they?
19:36 < remoford> hrm
19:36 <@someninjamaster> yeah like once a month you hear of at least one
19:37 < remoford> on a similar note, ive been trying to build this rc flying machine
19:37 < remoford> i hesitate to call it an airplane
19:37 <@someninjamaster> do you still have your licence
19:37 < remoford> i never had one
19:37 <@someninjamaster> i thought you got yours
19:37 < remoford> no
19:38 < remoford> always wanted to but getting one is like a semester of college
19:38 < Synx_hm> its not that bad, a bit expensive but really not all that bad
19:38 <@someninjamaster> i thought you were taking the classes
19:38 < Synx_hm> cheaper for glider and way more rewarding it hink
19:38 < Synx_hm> think
19:39 < Synx_hm> cheaper != easier!!!!!
19:41 < remoford> i couldnt pass the med requirements for a full license anyways
19:42 < remoford> maybe just maybe for light sport
19:42 < Synx_hm> no med req for glider
19:42 < remoford> and that is why the invented ultralights
19:42 < Synx_hm> which is kinda well strange, but cool
19:42 < Synx_hm> so long as you call yourself fit, its all good
19:43 < remoford> i think you if built it your damn self, and keep away from populated areas
19:43 < remoford> who the hell has teh authorti to tell me ill kill myself
19:43 < remoford> in fact, they should give all ultralight pilots an extra weight allowance for camras from all angles
19:44 < remoford> for youtube crashage
19:45 <@tcstool> ware disappeared
19:45 <@tcstool> lol
19:56 <@sdodson> aliens took him!
19:58 <@tcstool> Maybe so
19:58 <@sdodson> That was wishful thinking.
19:58 <@sdodson> tcstool: so binrev is dead?
20:00 <@sdodson> http://gizmodo.com/photogallery/sexistgadgets/1000612694
20:01 <@tcstool> sdodson:  I think so yeah
20:01 <@tcstool> it was getting sort of lame towards the end anyways
20:02 <@sdodson> The episode I have is the 5 hour epic one and I couldn't make it past the first 30 minutes.
20:04 <@tcstool> yeah
20:04 <@tcstool> they had their moments but there's a lot of crap in there too
20:04 <@tcstool> Good guys though
20:04 <@sdodson> Ya, they seemed cool at     PN
20:05 < Synx_hm> http://www.cafepress.com/buy/nuclear/-/pv_design_details/pg_3/id_11175399/opt_/fpt_/c_666/
20:05 < Synx_hm> ~minilink
20:05 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/cafepress.com/zWFHt
20:05 <@sdodson> Synx_hm: the feds get you yet?
20:05 < Synx_hm> fuck you i didn't not sleep well at all last night
20:05 < Synx_hm> i could hear those fuckers outside my window
20:06 < Synx_hm> i know they were out there
20:06 <@sdodson> I know what you mean man.
20:06 <@sdodson> sucks when you're paranoid
20:06 < Synx_hm> sucks bad
20:06 <@sdodson> everything that happens feeds the fire
20:06 < Synx_hm> seriously i have been freaked the fuck out lately
20:06 < Synx_hm> i keep hearing shit
20:07 < remoford> have you tried thorazine?
20:07 < Synx_hm> thorazine?
20:07 <@sdodson> you sound like ShadowHntr
20:07 <@ShadowHntr> lol sdodson
20:07 <@ShadowHntr> i'm not crazy
20:07 <@ShadowHntr> i just pretend ;)
20:09 <@tcstool> heh
20:10 <@tcstool> How is your job going ShadownHntr? still like it?
20:10 <@sdodson> oh i just meant with regard to pharmacuticals (sp?)
20:14 <@Catonic> electroshock ftw
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20:38 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: having a mother in the medical field had me interested in medicine when i was young
20:38 <@ShadowHntr> we had the AMA Home Medical Guide that i read (as recreational reading, lol)
20:38 <@ShadowHntr> and a book on medications
20:38 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't memorize it, but i looked a lot of shit up at the time
20:39 <@ShadowHntr> and i wanted to know what they were giving me when they prescribed me medications
20:41 <@Catonic> mine always made sure the principal had a recent copy of the PDR
20:41 <+coil> 65535 deny ip from any to any
20:43 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
20:48 <@Catonic> this is so ass-backwards
20:48 <@Catonic> I'm using a transistor as a diode
20:49 < remoford> why is that ass backwards?
20:49 < remoford> waste of a pin i guess
20:49  * brimstone flips a bit
20:50 <@Catonic> because I don't have a diode and I need one, but I found a box of transistors instead
20:50 < remoford> ok
20:51 < remoford> semiconductors are semiconductors
20:51 < remoford> now the real question is
20:51 < remoford> can you make a ac to dc convertor with just two transistors
20:52 <@sasquatc4> huzzah half wave rectifier
20:52 <@Catonic> uh... yeah...
20:52 <@Catonic> half-wave?
20:53 <@sasquatc4> wait, i think thats somethin else, been too long
20:53 <@sasquatc4> full wave i guess, tried to forget all that ee crap
20:54 <@Catonic> yeah... full-wave with two transistors
20:55 <@Catonic> using a pair of NPN transistors, tie the bases to the collector
20:55 <@Catonic> if there's positive voltage on the collector, it will allow current to flow.
20:56 <@Catonic> tie the two emmitters together. Attach the collectors to either side of the AC input
20:58 <@Catonic> sometimes I'd trade anything to be stupid again
21:05 < remoford> actually
21:05 < remoford> that is what pot is for
21:05 < remoford> only tmp but it works
21:11 <@Catonic> it's pretty fucking hard to do anything but grin when you're stoned
21:11 <@wontonjoe> woohoo
21:11 <@wontonjoe> im at the airport
21:11 <@wontonjoe> isnt this fantastic
21:12 <@wontonjoe> hell im always grining
21:12 <@wontonjoe> grinning?
21:12 <@wontonjoe> sp
21:12 <@brimstone> comcastic spectatic!
21:13 <@wontonjoe> i hate school, the whole idea and institution is repulsive
21:13 <@wontonjoe> ill hate it less when im done
21:14 <@wontonjoe> flight just got in, cool
21:14 <@wontonjoe> i need a beer
21:14 <@wontonjoe> reeb a deen i
21:14 <@wontonjoe> brimstone, what are you doing here?
21:14 <@Catonic> wee
21:15 <@wontonjoe> i thought you had a bad power supply and had been shut down for maintenance
21:15 <@Catonic> meh?
21:15 <@wontonjoe> brimstone that is
21:15 <@brimstone> eh?
21:16 <@brimstone> i've not had a bad psu in a while
21:16 <@wontonjoe> oh well thats good to hear
21:16 <@wontonjoe> gotta run bbl
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21:35 <@critch> umm, shit. While checking on some billing data, looks like one customer grew by about a 33% this month
21:36 <@critch> no wonder we are having trouble keeping up on our old ass server
21:37 <@someninjamaster> could be
21:38 <@critch> old machine is a dula P3 733mhz machine with 512m ram.
21:38 <@critch> duel even
21:39 <@critch> working right now on bringing it up on a vmware server, so it will get 2 2ghz opterons and a gig of ram
21:41 <@ShadowHntr> damn integer division in C++
21:41 <@ShadowHntr> always messes me up at least once
21:51 < squirrelt3rd> skydog: ping
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21:53 <@Catonic> sup pope?
21:53 <@jonnyx> Howdy. Putting the finishing touches on my mom's new DSL/wireless setup.
21:53 <+coil> 2wire modem?
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21:56 < j0nnyx> Forgot to nuke her Earthlink dialup connection in IE and the damn thing was limiting her to 15k up/down 'til I nuked it.
21:57 < j0nnyx> -hiccup-
21:57 <@brimstone> that's fun
21:57 <@someninjamaster> wow
21:57 < j0nnyx> @#*$!!! IE...
21:57 <@someninjamaster> 15k is tearing ass
21:58 <@squirrelt3rd> bullshit
21:58 < j0nnyx> Yep. Earthlink's toolbar sets up some proxy shit & even if you're on a high-speed connection it's going to set up a dial-up speed PPP connection & funnel everything through that. Weird.
21:59 <@squirrelt3rd> it's all bullshit
21:59 <@someninjamaster> isnt 15k a bit slow for dial up
22:00 < j0nnyx> Is it? I haven't done dialup in a long time...
22:10 <@squirrelt3rd> seeblind: ping
22:11 <@seeblind> squirrelt3rd: hey hey
22:11 <@seeblind> what's shakin'
22:12 <@squirrelt3rd> ssdd
22:12 <@squirrelt3rd> just lovin' life
22:12 <@squirrelt3rd> what bout you
22:13 <@seeblind> cool,  you on the road?
22:13 <@squirrelt3rd> no i leave friday after the meeting for kansas get back monday and leave tuesday for south car.
22:14 <@someninjamaster> thats assuming the fbi doesnt arrest you
22:14 <@seeblind> damn, sucks to travel during weekend for work
22:14 <@seeblind> you can't get that changed
22:14 <@squirrelt3rd> going to kansas to hunt while bethany goes to a wedding
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22:15 <@squirrelt3rd> some: i'm not going to speak of the cc shit i'm working on
22:15 <@seeblind> oh, kansas is fun not work
22:15 <@someninjamaster> haha
22:15 <@squirrelt3rd> i did find out that Shell uses MOD 10 with no checks to keep that safe
22:15 <@squirrelt3rd> yeah fun not work
22:15 <@someninjamaster> geez
22:16 <@seeblind> what is in season in arkansas
22:16 <@squirrelt3rd> yeah so if you have time on your hands you can generate shell card numbers and call in to check the balance
22:16 <@seeblind> s/arkansas/kansas
22:16 <@squirrelt3rd> coyote
22:17 <@squirrelt3rd> year round
22:17 <@squirrelt3rd> only thing in right now i think
22:18 <@critch> damn, no wonder I am running out of cpu, two customers grew by about 1/3 this month
22:18 <@seeblind> re: shell cards, are those just prepaid #s or their cc #s as well
22:19 <@squirrelt3rd> it's the pre paid card that has a 19 digit number i'm assuming is just unique to them
22:19 <@squirrelt3rd> so it's like a cc but not
22:19 <@squirrelt3rd> a shitty cc with no real protection
22:20 <@seeblind> just make sure if you use you cover your plate #
22:21 <@squirrelt3rd> yeah i need the mythbusters hack to have if flip
22:21 <@seeblind> haha
22:21 <@squirrelt3rd> it's a bitch though, i have an excel spread sheet to verify the numebrs but it takes time to call it in and check the balance and then you get a lot that don't exist
22:21 <@seeblind> yeah, your first HC project
22:21 <@squirrelt3rd> lol
22:21 <@squirrelt3rd> yeah
22:21 <@squirrelt3rd> or the LCD plate
22:22 <@seeblind> you need to talk to corydon and figure a way to have asterisk an ACD automate that
22:23 <@someninjamaster> thats kinda getting close to the line isnt it
22:23 <@squirrelt3rd> lol no shit didn't think about that. that would be to damn funny. shit!
22:23 <@seeblind> ACD talks to ACD
22:24 <@seeblind> someninjamaster: well I see the line as actually using the number.  Until then you haven't affected anyone or anything
22:25  * ShadowHntr puts his fingers in his ears...
22:27 <@squirrelt3rd> we should get this for skydog http://cgi.ebay.com/Geek-Squad-Double-Agent-Watch-Computer-Antique_W0QQitemZ200195770276QQihZ010QQcategoryZ1247QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
22:27 <@squirrelt3rd> where is the fearless leader???
22:27 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:28 <@seeblind> uhm, he's not my leader
22:28 <@seeblind> as to his whereabouts, I am not sure
22:28 <@sdodson> Who is our feerless leader?
22:28 <@sdodson> WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?
22:28 <@seeblind> he hasn't been on tonight
22:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Phew, taxes done
22:29 <@seeblind> Corydon76-dig: squirrelt3rd has some questions for you
22:29 <@sdodson> I don't even have a W2
22:30 <@Corydon76-dig> I got both of mine last week
22:30 <@Corydon76-dig> I was just waiting on the broker to get me my 1099's
22:30 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: How you roll so deep dawg?
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22:31 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I was born with a silver spoon in my ass, duh
22:32 <@seeblind> I thought you shoved it up there for the fun
22:32 <@sdodson> taxation of bonuses sux
22:32 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, I bought a gift cert from thinkgeek, and the expiration date is listed as "Jan, Sat 31, 2009"
22:33 <@ShadowHntr> oops
22:34 <@squirrelt3rd> does anyone know how to process platinum from hard drives???
22:34 <@squirrelt3rd> i'll pay up to $.01 for such information
22:35 <@sdodson> I only process platinum from the teeth of thugs.
22:35 <@Corydon76-dig> seeblind: Nah, I'm not a bottom
22:35 <@squirrelt3rd> yeah but thugs are to much work...
22:35 <@ShadowHntr> is google answers still active?
22:36 <@seeblind> Corydon76-dig: I was just kidding
22:36 <@ShadowHntr> nope.
22:36 <@sdodson> squirrelt3rd: they practically kill each other
22:36 <@squirrelt3rd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vkLTYTM21Y
22:37 <@squirrelt3rd> lol yeah i thought of a new business idea a while back... it's called ghetto tours. basically you just get a hummer and drive rich ppl through the ghetto... hasn't taken off yet
22:38 <@seeblind> you have to buy the hummer first, eh
22:38 <@squirrelt3rd> yeah... the bank didn't like the idea
22:38 <@squirrelt3rd> although the hummer would be a write off
22:39 <@someninjamaster> i like thermite
22:39 <@someninjamaster> for harddrive destruction
22:40 <@sdodson> Data is interleaved between platters, right?
22:40 <@sdodson> Why is it that anytime someone talks about harddrive destruction someone mentions thermite?
22:40 <@ShadowHntr> lol
22:40 <@squirrelt3rd> cause it's coooolllll
22:40 <@sdodson> IS it safe to assume that everyone that mentions it has never actually made it and used it but only read about it in 2600 and anarchist's cookbook?
22:41 <@squirrelt3rd> thermite is like the cousin to a termite right?
22:41 <@ShadowHntr> LOL
22:41 <@Catonic> because it's the only way to quickly, cheaply, and effectively destroy a hard dirve.
22:41 <@squirrelt3rd> welll...... i don't know about all that
22:41 <@sdodson> I had a drive with data I didn't want lifted so I threw the platters away one a week after attempting to damage them in various ways?
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: i think they've seen it on Brainiac and Mythbusters as well, but they have no clue what it is otherwise... :/
22:42 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: DOD wipe isn't good enough for you? you *that* paranoid?
22:42 <@squirrelt3rd> A thermite reaction is a type of aluminothermic reaction in which aluminium metal is oxidized by the oxide of another metal, most commonly iron ...
22:42 <@squirrelt3rd> however
22:42 <@squirrelt3rd> Thermite is a fictional character, owned by Marvel Comics who exists in the universe of the Squadron Supreme.
22:43 <@squirrelt3rd> i mean i'm just saying
22:43 <@sdodson> ShadowHntr: The drive bearing was shot.
22:43 <@ShadowHntr> sdodson: ahhhh.
22:43 <@someninjamaster> i shoot mine
22:43 <@sdodson> I don't have guns or anywhere to shoot them.
22:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, if you really want the data to be unrecoverable, melting the platter is the only way
22:44 <@brimstone> a little chemical reaction here and there...
22:44 <@sdodson> But data is interleaved between platters, right?
22:44 <@critch> yeah torches...
22:44 <@Catonic> thats another idea...
22:44 <@Catonic> pass the curie point
22:44 <@seeblind> sdodson: destroy both platters
22:44 <@sdodson> pass the currie point to the left hand side?
22:45 <@sdodson> I wasn't able to destroy them.
22:45 <@Corydon76-dig> If you have fairly small chunks of coal, you can get a nice fire going and toss the platters in
22:45 <@brimstone> propane!
22:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Propane doesn't burn hot enough
22:45 <@critch> oxy/Acet torch will melt the platters into interesting shapes.
22:45 <@Catonic> 501 degrees centigrade, right?
22:45 <@Corydon76-dig> You need either acetylene or another source of hot fire
22:46 <@critch> Oxy/Acet is closer to 4500
22:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Even a wood fire can burn hot enough
22:46 <@critch> ohh, C not F
22:47 <@critch> Catonic: Since I use oxy/acet for cutting steel, it gets in excess of 1370 centigrade.
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22:48 <@squirrelt3rd> so how the hell do you get the platinum of the HD?
22:48 <@Corydon76-dig> squirrelt3rd: there's not enough for it to be worth the process (unless you incinerate a LOT of drives)
22:49 <@squirrelt3rd> i've read that a drive can contain up to 35% on a platter
22:49 <@squirrelt3rd> if a platter comes in a 3 ounces
22:49 <@Corydon76-dig> You could do it with a chemical process, similar to the way that we currently distill Uranium-235
22:49 <@critch> and I probably have about as much in the 4 spark plugs in my motorcycle
22:50 <@squirrelt3rd> hmmm i just wonder sometimes... that shit interests me
22:50 <@Corydon76-dig> but the expense of setting up the equipment will far exceed the value of the platinum
22:50 <@squirrelt3rd> i would think chemical would be the way to go
22:51 <@sdodson> That's why you set up the equipment then contract with a shredding company.
22:51 <@critch> squirrelt3rd: http://www.platinum.matthey.com/applications/harddisk.html it is only 33% of the magnetic material, do you know how little of that there is on a platter?
22:51 <@squirrelt3rd> ahhhh yes.... i read it wrong
22:52 <@squirrelt3rd> damn that's what i get for skimming
22:52 <@squirrelt3rd> well there's your problem... they just don't use enough of the shit
22:52 <@sdodson> how much is an ounce of platinum worth?
22:52 <@squirrelt3rd> 1700
22:53 <@sdodson> So that'd mean your average harddrive is worth $5100
22:53 <@Corydon76-dig> squirrelt3rd: essentially you dissolve the metal in some chemical, then use a centrifuge to isolate the particular compounds, then add another chemical to reduce the metal back out of solution
22:53 <@squirrelt3rd> yeah yeah ok i read the shit wrong
22:53 <@squirrelt3rd> beat up on the squirrel why don't ya
22:53 <+coil> you are a terd
22:54 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: Not ware
22:54 <@squirrelt3rd> corydon: WTF! are you like a walking wiki or some shit?
22:54  * coil contemplates his next statement
22:54 <@Corydon76-dig> squirrelt3rd: I've been a geek for a very long time
22:55 <@squirrelt3rd> lol
22:55 <@squirrelt3rd> point taken
22:57 <+coil> Corydon76-dig: rndc?
22:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Eh?
22:58 <+coil> oh wait...named
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22:59 <@Catonic> http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5922515
23:00 <@Catonic> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327205,00.html
23:01 <@Catonic> how futuristic
23:01 <@Catonic> in 2020 we'll have railguns on naval battleships
23:02 <@Catonic> http://www.militarytimes.com/multimedia/video/013108railgun/
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23:11 <@sdodson> http://www.doubleviking.com/videos/page0.html/7833.html
23:13 <@Catonic> wow...
23:14 <+coil> who wants to try out my proxy?
23:14 <@Catonic> jimmy kimmel just raped the muppets
23:19 <@sdodson> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21840954/
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23:44 <@brimstone> is there a fast way to dump a file to the screen in perl?
23:44 <@brimstone> like, more safe then `cat $foo` ?
23:45 <@dasunt> Can I keel over & die?
23:46 <@dasunt> brimstone: Er, why not loop through the file and print each line?
23:46 <@Catonic> dasunt: no! epic fail!
23:46 <@brimstone> that's like, 5 lines when i really only need about 1
23:48 <@dasunt> 5 lines?
23:48 <@Catonic> print @foo
23:49 <@brimstone> that's right, you can @foo = FOO, but i don't think you can print @foo...
23:49 <@dasunt> 5?  3.
23:50 <@dasunt> open (file, "filename.txt") || die "Cannot open file.";
23:50 <@dasunt> while ( $out = <file> ) { print $out; }
23:50 <@dasunt> close(file);
23:50 <@brimstone> i got it in 4 lines, and i only need the first line of the file anyway
23:50 <+coil> i know the first line
23:50 <@Catonic> while true; do your mother ; done
23:50 <@dasunt> brimstone: Easier then.
23:50 <@dasunt> Replace the while in my code with an 'if'.
23:50 <@brimstone> yeah, print <Foo>
23:51 <@brimstone> 3 lines then
23:51 <@brimstone> i'm happy with this, thanks though dasunt
23:51 <@Catonic> my head... the burning...
23:52  * coil kills Catonic 
23:56 <@dasunt> I'm sore in every fucking muscle.
23:59 <@Catonic> dasunt: you're gona die
23:59 <@dasunt> Catonic: Maybe.
23:59 <@someninjamaster> whats with all the hate todat
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