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00:40 < scott_> hi
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00:48 < ware> no
00:49  * scort stabs ware
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00:58 <@someninjamaster> wow a time sink comeon
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> someninjamaster: i got my Java courseware site and my C++ courseware site mixed up
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> spent 15 minutes looking for the board for assignment 2 for C++ on the java site :P
01:06 <@someninjamaster>  nice
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> and called my Java professor for questions for my C++ assignment
01:06 <@someninjamaster> desire to learn really sucks
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> didn't catch it till he called back
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> :P
01:06 <@ShadowHntr> yeah i preferred WebCT
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> damn i hate this glossy LCD panel
01:07 <@ShadowHntr> everything sticks to it
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> someninjamaster: netbeans is pretty cool =)
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> for a Java IDE
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> i'm gonna try out Eclipse as well to see which one i like more
01:08 <@someninjamaster> we have to use textpad
01:08 <@ShadowHntr> he recommends textpad but i got the ok to use netbeans
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> i only have to turn in the .java file
01:09 <@ShadowHntr> so it works out
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> hey
01:13 <@ShadowHntr> question about strings in C++
01:14 <@ShadowHntr> can you multiply a string by an integer to multiply concatenate the string?
01:14 <@ShadowHntr> anyone available that could lend a hand?
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> never mind
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> i'll do it longhand.
01:18 <@ShadowHntr> consulted some references and i CANNOT do this.
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01:40 <@juice> sup?
01:41 <+coil> drink
01:41 <@someninjamaster> ok fixed
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01:44 <@someninjamaster> apparently not
01:44 <@someninjamaster> i really need to learn how to set screen up correctly
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01:46 <@someninjamaster> wth
01:46 <+coil> wtf
01:46 <@someninjamaster> how did i just do that
01:47 <+coil> lrn2
01:47 <@juice> hi
01:47 <+coil> linkius agent
01:47 <@someninjamaster> i dont have the slightest idea of how i just did that
01:47 <@juice> I had to much jose and crown
01:47 <@juice> to=tooooooooooo
01:48 <@someninjamaster> apparently dc0de needs to get auto join working
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01:48 <@someninjamaster> there fixed
01:49 <+coil> i has vodka
01:49 <+coil> and roomies bringing home beer
01:49 <@juice> umm ok
01:49 <@juice> beer is teh suck :P
01:54 <@juice> i am off to bed need sleep
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08:28 <@brimstone> setup screen correctly?
08:28 <@brimstone> how do you fail at setting it up?
08:28 <@brimstone> just start "screen"
08:28 <@brimstone> maybe -S <name of session>
08:28 <@brimstone> or -e "^Zz" if you want a different hot key
08:37 <@Catonic> -dr
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09:21 <@Catonic> hey dc0de
09:22 <@Catonic> you know that joke where the wife makes a meal the husband won't eat, and feeds it to the dog...
09:22 <@Catonic> then the dog is later seen licking himself, and she asks what he's doing..
09:22 <@sdodson> Catonic: Tell us more!
09:22 <@Catonic> and the husband replies "trying to get the taste out of his mouth"
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09:23 <@Catonic> anyway, I made a dish so nasty I'd have thrown it out, had I a working sense of smell.
09:24 <@dc0de> Catonic what did you make?
09:24 <@Catonic> a can of italian style green beans and sardines packed in oil..
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09:24 <@Catonic> I tried to wash the sardines to get the soybean oil off of them, but it was still nasty.
09:30 <@Catonic> bbs
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09:33 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzqumbhfxRo
09:38 <@dc0de> thats pretty cool
10:31 <@Dagmar> Odd.
10:31 <@Dagmar> I thought the only way to get the nasty off of sardines was to burn them.
10:36 <@juice> lol
10:38 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
10:40 <@dc0de> morning.
10:40 <@SkyDog_> Apparently, there were people looking for me last night...
10:41 <@Dagmar> People with badges>
10:41 <@Dagmar> ?
10:42 <@SkyDog_> Nah. People on irc...
10:42 <@SkyDog_> apparently, notlarry and squirrelturd were wanting to find me.
10:43 <@SkyDog_> I was asleep on the couch. :)
10:43 <@SkyDog_> morning dc0de
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10:46 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Fix your damn client.
10:46 <@someninjamaster> which one
10:47 <@Corydon76-dig> server
10:47 <@someninjamaster> my server decided to lock up last night
10:47 <@SkyDog_> you keep loggin in and loggin out. the HC channel is full of nothing but your traffic...
10:47 <@someninjamaster> hmm
10:47 <@someninjamaster> when was this logging in and out
10:47 <@SkyDog_> starting at 1:24 AM.
10:48 <@someninjamaster> yeah it was fucking up
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10:56 <@someninjamaster>  everything should be fixed now
10:58 <@SkyDog_> cool.
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10:59 <@dc0de> that's for kicking me for no fucking reason...
11:04 <@sdodson> OH NO!
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12:04 < ware> whutup
12:15 <@SkyDog_> yo.
12:17 < ware> hoho and a bottle of rum
12:17 <@SkyDog_> yup.
12:20 <@dc0de> it be sunday
12:28 <@tzanger> http://www.wiggaz.com/
12:34 <@dc0de> blocked as an adult site
12:35 <@tzanger> hahah you're kidding
12:35 <@tzanger> have to check it out at home then
12:35 <@dc0de> tzanger I am at home.
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12:37 <@tzanger> dc0de: wow sucks to be you
12:37 <@tzanger> no pron in your own home?
12:37 <@dc0de> too lazy to change the dns
12:38 <@dc0de> I use opendns.com to keep the kiddies from the bad shiz
12:39 <@dc0de> and it's doled out by dhcp.
12:40 <@sdodson> does it block my website?
12:41 <@dc0de> sdodson url?
12:41 <@sdodson> i dunno
12:41 <@dc0de> well then, it's hard for me to know.
12:42 <@sdodson> It's ok, I didn't really care.
12:42 <@dc0de> neither do I.
12:42 <@sdodson> YAAAAA BOY!
12:42 <@dc0de> ambivilence is great.
12:43 <@sdodson> I don't know what that word means, too many letters.
12:44 <@dc0de> ~google for ambivilence
12:44 <+MxZBot> Google says ambivilence is at http://behindthesurface.blogspot.com/2006/05/no-more-political-action-ambivilence.html or http://fan.final-distance.org/elt/ or http://hamelife.com/ambivilence-in-children-parents-are-in-two-minds-about-it/
12:45 <@Dagmar> That's just sad
12:45 <@Dagmar> You realize _why_ that's sad, right?
12:45 <@Dagmar> It's that all those people whose web pages come up for that hit, can't fucking spell.
12:45 <@Dagmar> ...or can't be bothered to.
12:46 <@dc0de> heh.
12:46 <@Dagmar> ~google illitiracy
12:46 <+MxZBot> Dagmar: If I had a dime for everytime someone said something I didn't understand.
12:46 <@Dagmar> ~google for illitiracy
12:46 <+MxZBot> Google says illitiracy is at http://www.halflife2.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-41527.html or http://www.nabuur.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4541&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&start=30
12:46 <@dc0de> ~google for irregarldless
12:46 <+MxZBot> Google says irregarldless is at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=516559&highlight=diego&page=170 or http://www.biokats.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3326&sid=cc40222c74bc11462ea6368e5c0c0115 or http://www.yarnlady.com/newsletter/2007/october/october1.html
12:46 <@Dagmar> Thank goodness for little blessings
12:47 <@Dagmar> Ack.
12:47 <@dc0de> heh.
13:20 <@rattle> Every time I see Huckabee give a speech, he says something he wants to change in the Constitution.
13:20 <@rattle> Scary.
13:20 <@rattle> Would people actually elect someone to "uphold" the constitution who talks about nothing but things he wants to change?
13:45 <@Dagmar> It lets him say things that sound positive and upbeat, without actually addressing any real problems
13:56 <@sdodson> Isn't that what all politicians strive to do?
14:00 <@rattle> Bush has certainly got people used to the idea that the president does all kinds of things that the legislative branches are actually responsible for..
14:01 <@Dagmar> See, my problem is this
14:01 <@Dagmar> We're in the middle of a motherfucking WAR
14:01 <@Dagmar> It's going to be _these guy's job_ to clean it up
14:01 <@Dagmar> They're acting like it's happening to someone else, somewhere else.
14:02 <@Dagmar> They ain't sayin' shit about it, and frankly, I think that if you're going to be IN CHARGE OF IT in less than a year, you should, I dunno, maybe be spending all your time planning for that
14:02 <@sdodson> suspense is building!
14:02 <@sdodson> this better be good!
14:02 <@Dagmar> So, how many of them do you think actually believe there's going to be an election
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14:04 <@rattle> Oh, there will be an election.
14:10 < strages> Dagmar: the "war" ended, remember "mission accomplished"?  I don't know what this bullshit is we're in now
14:10 <@Dagmar> lol
14:10 < strages> whatever it is it's not going to go away anytime soon
14:11 <@sdodson> There will be an election, Bush isn't bold enough to try that crap.
14:11 <@Dagmar> Why not
14:11 <@Dagmar> Haven't you noticed him declaring that Iran is going to kill everyone?
14:13 < strages> the current administration is going to invade Iran before the elections, and early enough so that the invasion is in full swing by the time of election.  He's going to make the next guy deal with it and they're not going to be able to just bring everyone home at that point.
14:13 < strages> we'll be dealing with it for a long time after that
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14:33 <@dc0de> strages, is iran innocent?
14:45 <@Corydon76-dig> As innocent as a bathtub
14:47 <@dc0de> yeah.
14:47 <+coil> hi
14:47 <+coil> bathtub?
14:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Assigning guilt or innocence to inanimate objects is an exercise in silliness
14:48 <@Corydon76-dig> It's as silly as saying America doesn't want to be in a war.
14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> The problem is that public opinion of the people in a country and the leaders of a country frequently differ
14:50 <@brimstone> i like the phrase "drunk with power"
14:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Unfortunately, not enough that the leaders are no longer leaders
14:50 <+coil> lol
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14:59 <@dc0de> corydon - that's distracting diatribe. it doesn't mean anything.
15:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Sure it does
15:00 <@dc0de> should we ignore iran?
15:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, we should
15:01 <@dc0de> and why is that?
15:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Our problem isn't with Iran... it's with our warmonger of a president
15:02 <@dc0de> ok. So, NATO and the other world powers that want to pre-emptively strike Iran are all following Bush?
15:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Frankly, I believe the president of Iran when he says their pursuit of nuclear power is for peaceful purposes
15:02 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't think NATO wants to strike Iran
15:02 <@dc0de> corydon - frankly, I'm glad you're not in charge
15:02 <@Corydon76-dig> I think Bush wants to strike Iran
15:02 <@Corydon76-dig> The feeling is mutual
15:02 <@dc0de> NATO and the Russians also want to strike Iran.
15:03 <@Corydon76-dig> France and Germany want to strike Iran?
15:03 <@dc0de> but hey, they must be telling the truth.
15:03 <@dc0de> France isn't part of NATO
15:03 <@dc0de> and Germany voted.
15:03 <@Corydon76-dig> When did France stop being part of NATO?
15:03 <@dc0de> oh, around 1952.
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15:04 <@dc0de> France participates, but doesn't have any significant standing.
15:04 <@Catonic> dc0de, dagmar...
15:04 <@Corydon76-dig> I think we have vast amounts of intelligence being ignored AGAIN
15:04 <@dc0de> Catonic sup?
15:04 <@Catonic> what are those things put down to keep cars and people from following you?
15:04 <@dc0de> of course, corydon, and everyone is doing it.
15:04 <@dc0de> caltrops
15:05 <@Catonic> an antenna shaped like those is really interesting.
15:05 <@dc0de> Russia must also be ignoring information
15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> or getting pressure from Bush
15:05 <@dc0de> but I'm glad corydon, you have better information.
15:05 <@dc0de> did you call Iran? get a personal letter?
15:05 <@Catonic> getting pressure from bush is a good night in russia.
15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> I never said I have better information
15:06 <@dc0de> you seem to be alluding to it... you "believe" the Iranians
15:06 <@dc0de> on what grounds?
15:06 <@Corydon76-dig> "Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me."
15:06 <@dc0de> just because you don't like the president, doesn't mean that they aren't a menace.
15:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Doesn't mean they are, either
15:06 <@dc0de> don't be fooled by your own blindness
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Doesn't make the president any more or less believable
15:07 <@dc0de> who said anything about the president? I am talking about Iran.
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> In fact, he has a track record of ignoring intelligence
15:08 <@Corydon76-dig> And Iran has been more or less peaceful (in fact, MORE peaceful than the US) over the past 20 years
15:08 <@dc0de> Like I said, the information is out there. Go find it yourself and read it, instead of just ignoring anything that the president says
15:08 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm not ignoring the president
15:08 <@dc0de> Oh, so the Iran/Iraq war was peaceful? and their use of Poison Gas?
15:08 <@dc0de> and their genocide?
15:08 <@Corydon76-dig> But I'm not discounting that he has an agenda
15:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, the use of poison gas was on Iraq's part, not Iran
15:08 <@dc0de> so he put pressure on Russia and NATO?
15:09 <@dc0de> corydon, get your facts straight, they BOTH used Sarin and VX on each other.
15:09  * Catonic whacks it to some antenna pr0n
15:09 <@dc0de> and Iran actually pulled Mustard Gas out of old stockpiles to use against the Iraq troops
15:09 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm not saying the leaders of Iran are angels
15:09 <@Corydon76-dig> but at this point, they're more credible than Bush
15:10 <@dc0de> http://www.sans.org/2008menaces/
15:10 <@dc0de> <Corydon76-dig> And Iran has been more or less peaceful (in fact, MORE
15:10 <@dc0de>                 peaceful than the US) over the past 20 years
15:10 <@Catonic> dc0de: what were the bullpens called?
15:10 <@dc0de> sounds different than your previous statement.
15:10 <@dc0de> elephant pens?
15:10 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: need you be reminded that IRAQ invaded IRAN
15:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Not the other way around?
15:11 <@dc0de> corydon - doesn't matter, the US hasn't used chemical weapons since WWII.
15:11 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: Agent Orange?
15:11 <@dc0de> not a chemical weapon.
15:11 <@dc0de> it was a defoliant
15:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, WHAT?
15:11 <@Catonic> we just found out it can be used as a chemical weapon
15:11 <@dc0de> when was that?
15:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Caused madness and cancer in any kid it was sprinkled on
15:12 <@Catonic> round-up on steriods
15:12 <@dc0de> when was that discovered?
15:12 <@Corydon76-dig> During the Vietnam War
15:12 <@dc0de> please.
15:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Our own soldiers, unfortunately
15:12 <@dc0de> where is that documented? anywhere but your imagination?
15:13 <@Catonic> direction finding station elephant <- do NOT include "pen" when searching. Google becomes infected with the stupid.
15:13 <@dc0de> it was designed as a defoliant. it was used as a defoliant, and any side effects weren't planned on.
15:13 <@Corydon76-dig> So suddenly, we were able to create an defoliant that had no human side effects?  Right.
15:13 <@dc0de> therefore, it is NOT a chemical agent.
15:14 <@dc0de> corydon, you fail when arguing geneva convention with me.
15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> I think you're splitting hairs
15:14 <@Corydon76-dig> You think that when it was found to cause cancer, they stopped using it?
15:14 <@dc0de> corydon, it's all about splitting hairs.
15:15 <@dc0de> and proving cancer takes YEARS
15:15 <@dc0de> not minutes, or days.
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15:15 <@dc0de> like I said, where's the proof of this statement?
15:16 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.lewispublishing.com/orange.htm
15:17 <@dc0de> The purpose of the product was to deny an enemy cover and concealment in dense terrain by defoliating trees and shrubbery where the enmy could hide.
15:17 <@Corydon76-dig> The earliest health concerns about Agent Orange were about the product's contamination with TCDD, or dioxin. TCDD is one of a family of dioxins, some found in nature, and are cousins of the dibenzofurans and pcb's. The TCDD found in Agent Orange is thought to be harmful to man.
15:18 <@dc0de> and when was that?
15:18 <@dc0de> your link doesn't say that it was before it was used.
15:18 <@dc0de> a .50cal machine gun is not supposed to be used to shoot people either.
15:18 <@Corydon76-dig> It's an excellent question, but Iran hasn't been using Agent Orange
15:18 <@dc0de> you can however, shoot their equipment, uniform, and weapons.
15:19 <@dc0de> no, Iran used Mustard, Sarin, and VX, in the last 20 years.
15:19 <@dc0de> <Corydon76-dig> And Iran has been more or less peaceful (in fact, MORE
15:19 <@dc0de>                 peaceful than the US) over the past 20 years
15:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Like I said, they're not angels
15:19 <@dc0de> yeah, but that is a contradiction
15:19 <@dc0de> to your previous statement.
15:19 <@Corydon76-dig> but their leaders are still more believable than Bush
15:20 <@dc0de> then move there.
15:20 <@dc0de> see what they would think of your lifestyle.
15:20 <@sdodson> sinner!
15:20 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm not sure where you made the leap of thinking they're more believable to wanting to live there
15:21 <@dc0de> I guess you don't like the fact that many other countries think that Iran needs to be pre-emptively struck, as somehow related to the president.  That is just ignorant
15:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Frankly, I'd love to move elsewhere, but economic realities prevent that.
15:21 <@dc0de> Catonic AN/FLR-9
15:22 <@dc0de> corydon - and if you do, will you renounce your citizenship?
15:22 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't know, will you?
15:23 <@dc0de> sorry, as much as I don't agree with many of the things that have occurred in the past with our political system, we still live in the best country in the world.
15:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Will you renounce your citizenship if Bush is wrong about Iran?
15:24 <@dc0de> and as an american, born in america, and having served our country, I will stay in my country.
15:24 <@sdodson> Don't all tax payers serve their country?
15:24 <@dc0de> corydon - I don't know what bush has to do with this, I'm looking at information from outside the US, regarding Iran.
15:24 <@dc0de> sdodson no, they don't.
15:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, see, there you go.  I also disagree with leaders, yet I don't want to leave here.  Again, how do you make the leap from believing another country's leaders to wanting to live in that country?
15:25 <@Corydon76-dig> So I don't know how renouncing citizenship entered the conversation
15:25 <@dc0de> I asked one question, and you've turned it into a bush war again.
15:25 <@dc0de> I asked NotLarry if he thought that Iran was innocent.
15:25 <@Corydon76-dig> No, you asked strages
15:26 <@dc0de> ahh, true, strages.
15:26 <@dc0de> then you started with some diatribe about the country being innocent
15:26 <@dc0de> which was useless drivel.
15:26 <@Corydon76-dig> No, I did not.
15:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Read it again.
15:26 <@dc0de> painting them as if they are as pure as driven snow
15:26 <@Corydon76-dig> I said saying a country was innocent made as much sense as saying a bathtub was guilty
15:27 <@dc0de> and blaming bush for all of the information available on Iran that is available in the world at the moment.
15:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Not all of the information
15:27 <@dc0de> actually alluding that Bush made Russia say that they want to pre-emptively attack Iran.
15:27 <@Corydon76-dig> There's a good deal of information that I think is being ignored on Iran
15:28 <@dc0de> well, then it should be your duty to bring it to light.
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> In diplomacy, you don't make other people say things
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Not my job
15:28 <@dc0de> but I would say, that if you were that good, you'd be working for an intelligence agency, actually analyzing this "missing / ignored" information.
15:29 <@Corydon76-dig> There are plenty of analysts who said that during the runup to the Gulf War, and they were ignored
15:29 <@dc0de> instead, you are saying that the countries that make up NATO and Russia are also "ignoring" information.
15:29 <@dc0de> So I guess then, NATO and Russia WANT to go to war too.
15:29 <@dc0de> Good, then we can move on from all this shit, as we won't be the headlines.
15:30 <@Corydon76-dig> And my bathtub wants to have an abortion
15:30 <@dc0de> you should be happy then.
15:30  * sdodson dispatches a plumber to Corydon76-dig's place
15:30 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I'm thinking Drano will work fine
15:31 <@dc0de> drink two bottles, be sure the stuff works.
15:31 <@Corydon76-dig> You really should seek help for that inclination to violence
15:32 <@dc0de> corydon, are you aware that the Iranian leadership has stated publically that if they have the means to invade their neighbors that they will happily do it?
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Do you have a source for that?
15:33 <@dc0de> do you realize what an invasion of that caliber would do to the middle east?
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> It's evident that Bush believes the same thing... he should be the president of Iran!
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> (using the same leap of logic you demonstrated earlier)
15:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Much as I'd love to beat this dead horse, I have a class plan I need to write
15:34 <@dc0de> I guess you only read what you want to read.
15:35 <@sdodson> An invasion of that caliber happens all the time over there.
15:35 <@dc0de> it's moot, you think everyone is just good.
15:35 <@dc0de> sdodson not a nuclear one.
15:35 <@sdodson> No one is going to use nukes
15:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Nonsense.  I believe Bush is evil.
15:36 <@dc0de> good, at least you're beginning to learn about the real world.  (Oh, and by the way, so are Barak and Hillary)
15:44 <@dc0de> oh, and hey, EVEN THE U.N. has upped the sanctions on Iran.... they must be ignorant too... http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hCI7RGA8YSn3o9e4l_JdWzN_ju4AD8UCLMG00
15:47 <@sdodson> Aren't we the U.N.?
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15:55 <@timoguin> "wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'EEPROM read problem' (HAL status 8)"
15:55 <@timoguin> anyone know what the fuck causes that?
16:02 <@dc0de> timoguin what os? what card?
16:02 <@dc0de> sdodson no, we're not.
16:03 <@timoguin> Proxim Orinoco Silver 8471-WD w/ Atheros chipset on Gentoo
16:03 <@timoguin> running 2.6.23
16:04 <@dc0de> timoguin sounds like the firmware of the card might be pooched.
16:04 <@timoguin> that's what it seems like...
16:04 <@timoguin> uggghhh...
16:08 <@timoguin> i really don't want to fuck with sending this thing back.
16:10 <@dc0de> is it new?
16:10 <@timoguin> yea
16:11 <@timoguin> it's been working on xp though
16:11 <@timoguin> ordered from wardrivingworld
16:11 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: check what version of madwifi you have installed
16:12 <@sdodson> doesn't 2.6.24 have built in drivers for atheros?
16:13 <@timoguin> 0.9.3.3
16:14 <@timoguin> the latest
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16:29 <@tcstool> timoguin:  That definitely sounds like firmware.  I used the same card (also ordered from wardrivingworld) with no issue on gentoo
16:31 <@timoguin> well i emailed them to see what i need to do.
16:38 <@tcstool> they are VERY VERY good about exchanging gear or giving refunds
16:39 <@tcstool> really helpful about getting things working too
16:43 <@timoguin> that's good.
16:45 <@tcstool> Oh yeah
16:45 <@tcstool> I had a pigtail break on an antenna that I bought from them after 1 day of use
16:45 <@tcstool> They sent me a new antenna before I sent the old one back and just told me to throw a couple of bucks in the box when I sent the old one back to cover their shipping costs
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19:01 <+coil> howd you get from hsv to bhm so quick?
19:06 <@sdodson> "Comodo Memory Firewall is a buffer overflow detection and prevention tool..."  aka any modern OS?
19:16 <@Catonic> coil: I can't talk about that for another two years.
19:16 <@Catonic> lol, sadgasm.
19:31 <+coil> lol
19:39 <@NotLarry> http://www.geneticanomaly.com/RPG-Motivational/slides/comeon.jpg
19:40 <@Catonic> ladymerlin: around?
19:40 <@Catonic> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/SR71J58.png
19:40 <@Catonic> ^ SR-71 engine inlet system was declassified
19:46 <@Catonic> and milhouse goes emo
19:46 < wontonjoe> bing bong
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19:47 <@dc0de> Catonic cool
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19:49 <@squirrelt3rd> yo yo yo
19:52 <@wontonjoe> my history teacher is a dumbass, interesting, but dumbass, he seems to be unable to post the test he promised to us on blackboard
19:55 <@juice> anyone heard of or used pulse plugs?
19:56 <@brimstone> only once, and i was really drunk
19:57 <@juice> wondering if they really help out that much more than standard spark plugs
19:57 <@juice> since they cost 24.95 a piece
19:58 <@wontonjoe> they dont help that much, spark plugs arent rocket science, believing someone will pay 24 dollars for them now thats gorilla marketing
19:59 <@tzanger> heh
20:00 <@tzanger> I don't even buy the "V-plug" technology
20:00 <@tzanger> you don't get two sparks
20:00 <@tzanger> it's the same electrical potential across the same gap.  now you have more opportunity for a sharp edge since there are more edges, but that's about it
20:00 <@juice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHNLjhymSgQ
20:01 <@juice> they have new than v
20:01 <@juice> they have like 4 tips
20:01 <@tzanger> hey I built one of those
20:01 <@tzanger> that's the HV output transformer from a tv
20:01 <@juice> yep
20:01 <@tzanger> I used a pair of 2n3055s with a special primary
20:01 <@juice> flyback :)
20:01 <@tzanger> ah he's rectified it
20:01 <@tzanger> mine was just AC
20:01 <@juice> yeah I want to see one at pn next year :P
20:01 <@juice> or this year
20:02 <@tzanger> heh no fucking way a 555 itmer IC is giving him that jitter-free a clock
20:02 <@tzanger> I bet that mac in the background's really liking him
20:03 <@juice> lol
20:04 <@juice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AXRPajIXa8&feature=related
20:04 <@juice> hmm some of the other related videos are cool too
20:04 <@tzanger> heh
20:04 <@tzanger> hv cap bank vs apples
20:04 <@juice> that beer cap is crazy
20:05 <@tzanger> potato vs defibrilator cap
20:05 <@tzanger> haha
20:06 <@tzanger> there is something about the sound and smell of high voltage that you just can't get from youtube
20:06 <@juice> hmm high voltage lifter that is crazy
20:06 <@juice> tzanger, yeah I was think that too
20:08 <@Catonic> 2N3055s? Four of those will regulate 25A @ 12V...
20:08 <@juice> okay watch this and tell me what you notice
20:08 <@wontonjoe> I have to replace an lcd in a laptop tomorrow....dont ask
20:08 <@juice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNIDfZxIT0w&feature=related
20:09 <@tzanger> Catonic: yep, they are big and fairly indestructable
20:09 <@tzanger> easy to heat sink too
20:09 <@juice> I wish that gnat would have got zapped at the end of that video
20:09 <@tzanger> I wasn't running them anywhere near capacity, but by my estimation I was getting about 40-50kV out of the flyback at its peak
20:09 <@tzanger> I needed a bigger flyback
20:10 <@tzanger> and back then I could have got more out of it with either more primary voltage or by tuning the circuit too, I knew nothing about that shit
20:14 <@sdodson> Jan 27 20:52:06 localhost smartd[2414]: Device: /dev/sda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 61 to 62  I wonder if that's bad
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20:22 <@Catonic> nice. very nice.
20:28 <@someninjamaster> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE3dRBlQjTE&feature=related
20:29 <@someninjamaster> at which point is opening the door of the microwave creating plasma a bad idea
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20:37 <@Catonic> first you'd have to defeat the interlock
20:38 <@Catonic> next, you're gonna get heated by an 850W beam
20:39 <@tzanger> defeating interlocks is my specialty
20:39 <@tzanger> my bro got me the thinkgeek "I void warranties" t-shirt
20:39 <@tzanger> I exercise in it
20:41 <@tzanger> I have a friend who sets bushes on fire from like 50' with a modified microwave
20:41 <@tzanger> runs around to the far side of the shed to turn it on though :-)
20:44 <@wontonjoe> youll put your eye out with that
20:44 <@tzanger> hahaha
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20:46 <@wontonjoe> time to see if my inept teacher put up the test
20:47 <@juice> heh
20:49 <@wontonjoe> lol
20:49 <@wontonjoe> he didnt have the correct software to do it and is giving it on paper teusday
20:49 <@wontonjoe> poor guy
20:51 <@wontonjoe> no work for programming and logic either
20:51 <@wontonjoe> 'im bored
20:57 <@juice> yeah me too
20:57 <@juice> just watching youtube videos
20:58 <@juice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbr0bGO7nr8
20:58 <@juice> heh
21:07 <@wontonjoe> im at work, they get weird about watching youtube crap , im here by myself after 12
21:07 <@juice> ic
21:10 <@brimstone> intergrated circuit?
21:23 <@NotLarry> anyone know where I can get a copy of billy's why ajax makes baby jesus cry video?  It's not on google video any more
21:27 <@brimstone> hopefully ol' Dol kept copies
21:28 <@brimstone> rumor has it, since billy mentioned "gmail" they took it down
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21:29 <@brimstone> weechat!
21:30 <@someninjamaster> he mentioned gmail google maps and a few other google related things
21:32 <@Mirage> wtf..WoW forums are hosed
21:34 <@someninjamaster> how are you going to waste time
21:34 <@Mirage> guess i'll have to watch Star Wars on HBO
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22:15 <@Catonic> wontonjoe: come down and help me kill myself.
22:15 <@juice> Missouri weather is so whacked
22:15 <@juice> 60 tomorrow and snow and 20's tomorrow night
22:15 <@Catonic> juice: it's doing that here tomorrow
22:15 <@juice> and 20 for the high on tuesday with snow
22:16 <@juice> I am so sick of snow
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22:22 <@wontonjoe> death to catonic?
22:23 <@sdodson> Death to catonic!
22:27 <@wontonjoe> KILL KILL KILL
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23:15 <@someninjamaster> someone needs to take some initiave and snipe tim and eric
23:16 <@sdodson> what?
23:16 <@sasquatc4> i just wonder who watches their crap that cartoon network keeps hiring them to make shows
23:17 <@someninjamaster> i dont know
23:17 <@someninjamaster> if you look on the forums noone likes them
23:22 <@juice> figures
23:28 <@someninjamaster> you have got to be fucking kidding me
23:29 <@someninjamaster> i emailed my professor about something on the website that safari didnt work well with
23:29 <@someninjamaster> and her response to me was that if i really knew anything about computers i would be using xp
23:30 <@someninjamaster> she said the corprate world uses xp and xp only and if i want a decent job i should learn how to use it
23:32 <@someninjamaster> i should foward this to her department head
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Ask her what her experience in the corporate world was like
23:40 <@someninjamaster> i should
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Professors tend to talk out their asses when it comes to real world experience
23:40 <@someninjamaster> well
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> with a few notable exceptions
23:40 <@someninjamaster> the ones that have none
23:41 <@someninjamaster> all of my tech teachers have real world experence
23:42 <@Corydon76-dig> There are a few areas, though, where you WANT the ivory tower approach... Encryption is one of them.  Real world encryption tends to SUCK
23:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Most packages that promise security are using the algorithm improperly, if they're using a tested algorithm at all
23:43 <@Corydon76-dig> with the end result that your information is merely obfuscated, not securely encrypted
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