--- Log opened Mon Dec 24 00:00:40 2007 00:05 -!- strages [n=strages@c-68-62-216-5.hsd1.al.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:17 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 00:17 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 00:29 -!- NotLarry [n=gkar@ra.thehippo.net] has joined #se2600 00:29 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o NotLarry] by ChanServ 00:45 -!- scort_ [n=scott@cpe-67-9-98-65.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #se2600 01:01 -!- scort [n=scott@cpe-67-9-98-65.satx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:04 <@NotLarry> ok, which one of you evil fucks rips dvd's? I got the bands footage over the years but the person who copied it from video and film to digital burned it to dvd and I need it in a format I can use movie maker or something else on to make video's 01:07 <@dasunt> Isn't it transcode or something? 01:07 <@dasunt> Or under windows, Gordian Knot, maybe? 01:09 <@Catonic> sorry, the evil fuck you're looking for is presently asleep. 01:09 <@Catonic> http://catonic.us/rabbit/ 01:09 <@Catonic> I has a rabbit 01:10 <@dasunt> Catonic: Does it run? 01:10 <@Catonic> like a top 01:10 <@Catonic> you stop and wind it up ever few miles. 01:10 <@dasunt> I has Catonic's license plate number. 01:11 <@Catonic> I'm not too worried at this point. 01:11 * dasunt heads off to stalk Catonic. 01:11 <@Catonic> The fucking DA has my license plate number... 01:11 <@Catonic> and he's got a throbbing raging boner for me that puts a pent-up frat to shame. 01:11 * dasunt has a story about license plates. 01:14 <@dasunt> Catonic: You need to cruise that car down the main drag on Friday. 01:14 <@dasunt> You'll have women jumping into your lap. 01:15 <@dasunt> Don't get rid of the speaker on the front passenger side floor, they love that. 01:15 <@Catonic> dasunt: the car that I will buy once I know how to drive stick: http://tinyurl.com/2adze4 01:16 <@dasunt> Catonic: That doesn't look like a Datsun Z car. :p 01:16 <@dasunt> Stick is easy, btw. 01:18 <@brimstone> wait wait wait 01:18 <@brimstone> you're all this and that about cars, and you don't drive stick Catonic? 01:19 <@Catonic> It's a 2004 Honda S2000 01:19 <@Catonic> brimstone: that's correct. 01:19 <@Catonic> I can drive an automatic like I stole it. 01:19 <@brimstone> so can my sister 01:19 <@Catonic> I can outthink the engine's computer.. 01:19 <@brimstone> then why not drive stick? 01:19 <@Catonic> but no, clutching & shifting isn't native to my hardware. 01:19 <@Catonic> I can drive a tip-tronic just fine.. 01:20 <@Catonic> basically, I bought the last caprice to get out of the earlier caprice, which was a basketcase.. 01:20 <@dasunt> The only problem with sticks is that they are more annoying to drive around bad drivers. 01:20 <@Catonic> then I found the rabbit in the junkyard, and bought it and two years later, it's finally on the road. 01:20 <@dasunt> Especially rush hour traffic. 01:21 <@Catonic> I live in Birmingham. You can't outrun all of the idiots. Just some of them. 01:21 <@Catonic> for the rest, I use the blue lights under the hood. 01:21 <@dasunt> ? 01:22 <@Catonic> n/m 01:22 <@dasunt> In other news, I'm officially a wanker. 01:22 <@dasunt> That is all. 01:22 -!- unixfag [i=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:23 <@Catonic> huh? 01:23 <@dasunt> You don't even want to know. 01:23 <@Catonic> prolly not 01:24 -!- unixfag [i=ryan@pdpc/supporter/professional/unixfag] has joined #se2600 01:24 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o unixfag] by ChanServ 01:30 <@Catonic> aw damn. 01:30 <@Catonic> I didn't know Waylon Jennings died in 2002. 01:31 * Catonic sobs for the Dukes of Hazzard 01:40 <@deoptima> night guys 01:46 <+coil> Catonic: 01:46 <+coil> are you drunk 01:47 <@Catonic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Blackflag.jpg 01:47 <@Catonic> jesus, rollins has never had a neck. 01:48 <@freakn> some people are born that way? 01:52 <@Catonic> I think he does pushups with his forehead 01:53 <+coil> ANSWER ME GOD DAMNIT 01:53 * freakn hides 01:58 -!- deoptima [n=deo@c-68-54-232-19.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:00 * Catonic damns coil 02:32 <@dasunt> I've turned into the nice guy friend online. 02:32 <@dasunt> That all the women want to talk to. 02:32 <@dasunt> And only talk to. 02:32 <@dasunt> It is rather humorous 02:32 <+coil> keyword talk 02:33 <@Catonic> dasunt: if I ever get you in front of me, I'm going to exorcise your sorry ass. 02:34 <@dasunt> Exorcise? 02:34 <@dasunt> coil: I *know*. 02:34 <@Catonic> beat it out of you 02:35 <@dasunt> It may be my inner nature. 02:39 <@Dagmar> Damn this Vundo thing is nasty 02:40 <@Catonic> url? 02:40 <@Dagmar> Man 02:40 <@Dagmar> Fucking google 02:41 <@Dagmar> It does a bit more than the wikipedia entry says 02:41 <@Dagmar> After Opheria went into safe mode and did a half-assed removal, it responded by locking out all user accounts. 02:42 <@Catonic> oh, that's why we've been pushing out that update. 02:42 <@Dagmar> Yes, 02:42 <@Dagmar> And I think Mirage can take his little app that needs old Java and fucking throw it away now 02:42 <@Dagmar> Java and Quicktime are the two things that are currently being exploited to install this shit 02:42 <@Catonic> it's too bad they didn't do the right thing and make a cross-platform sploit... 02:43 <@Dagmar> 'Opheria got hit via Quicktime because it doesn't check for an update until it's already running (through the plugin) if you don't let it hog up your system trap 02:43 <@Dagmar> s/trap/tray/; 02:43 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: I had a removal tool for vundo that worked. lemme find it 02:43 <@Evilpig> I can tell you that the one from symantec does not work though 02:43 <@Dagmar> I'm using Symantec's now 02:43 <@Dagmar> 1.5? 02:43 <@Evilpig> don't bother. it doesn't work 02:43 * Catonic wonders what channel he's been on for the last hour. 02:43 <@Dagmar> It *says* it kills Vundo.B 02:44 <@Evilpig> says 02:44 <@Evilpig> doesn't 02:44 <@Dagmar> I'm at least going to let it run through and see what it thinks it can yank 02:44 <@Evilpig> it gets most of it. not all. that is the problem with it 02:45 <@Evilpig> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic18610.html 02:45 <@Evilpig> this does work 02:45 <@Evilpig> download that. and run in safe mode 02:45 <@Evilpig> the other download will let you run it in normal mode. it can kill the process off and allow you to remove it 02:46 <@Dagmar> Here's hoping 02:47 <@Evilpig> I guarantee it. had to remove it 100 times before. that is the only tool I have ever found to work 02:47 <@Dagmar> Me and Opheria are going to have a talk about REMOVING SHIT you're never going to run again 02:47 <@Dagmar> This would not take so long if every little piece of crap she's downloaded in the past three years weren't still installed 02:48 <@Dagmar> I install a lot of those free asian games, but I remove them once I've decided the thing sucks 02:49 <@Evilpig> well I am going to bed now. if you are still running the symantec one. seriously just stop it and use the other. vundo gets into some font files and shit that it then hooks into the registry as system files to keep it hidden from most of the scanners 02:50 <@Dagmar> Thanks man. I hope like hell this works. 03:22 <@dasunt> http://xkcd.com/ 03:52 -!- Jagobah [i=jago7777@adsl-070-157-255-118.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 03:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Jagobah] by ChanServ 03:53 <@NotLarry> I got like 35 gig of 03:53 <@NotLarry> Holy fuck 03:53 <@NotLarry> Dagmar, you up? 03:53 <@Catonic> PORN PORN PORN 03:54 <@NotLarry> I got email from microsoft that said ... 03:55 <@NotLarry> United States law requires websites and services to obtain parental permission to collect, use, or share personal information from children under 13. On or soon after 12/20/2007, you will no longer be able to manage permissions for the Blake account through Account Services. When children are over age 13, they can sign up for a new account without adult permission. 03:55 <@NotLarry> For information about how Microsoft collects and uses personal information, please review the Privacy Statement at http://g.msn.com/2privacy/enus. 03:55 <@NotLarry> big brother 04:18 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has joined #se2600 04:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o maverickbna] by ChanServ 05:22 <@SkyDog_> Morning all. 05:31 <@Catonic> Fuck you buddy. 05:58 < strages_> mornin 06:35 <@ladymerlin> whee 06:40 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@cs6625115-206.bham.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:05 <@NotLarry> SkyDog_: 07:11 -!- maverickbna [n=sentinel@wikipedia/Shadowhntr] has left #se2600 ["Leaving"] 07:15 <@Shadow_Phone> meow 07:16 -!- ScotChick_Laptop [n=Meow@c-76-20-208-226.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 07:16 <@Shadow_Phone> omg, angry brit 07:17 < ScotChick_Laptop> whatever - sigh 07:17 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl, meow 07:41 <@Dagmar> Wilpig is da man 07:41 <@Dagmar> It takes fucking AGES to scan someone's hard drive when they _never uninstall anything_ but those two programs he referred me to purged everything but some of the registry entries 07:41 <@Dagmar> These Vundo fucks are evil 07:42 <@Dagmar> NotLarry: We need to hammer on Mirage and find out for sure which program he thought needed an old Java, and then HAMMER THOSE PEOPLE TO UPDATE THEIR SHIT 07:43 <@Dagmar> This Vundo shit gets installed through many app exploits, several of which happen to be Firefox plugins 07:43 <@Dagmar> Specifically Java, Quicktime, and Flash 07:43 <@Dagmar> The fucking thing installs itself in a BUNCH of places in the registry 07:44 <@Dagmar> ...and it even went and tampered with the Quicktime installation so that Quicktime could NOT be updated 07:44 <@Dagmar> It nuked AVG right off the drive 08:00 -!- ScotChick_Laptop [n=Meow@c-76-20-208-226.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:21 <@polerin> the only firefox plugin I use is firebug . 08:23 <@Dagmar> You probably have Flash, or Quicktime, or Adobe Reader 08:23 <@Dagmar> Or Java 08:24 <@Dagmar> Older than latest versions which are exploitable, are being exploired 08:24 <@Dagmar> er exploited 08:28 <@Dagmar> http://www.memestreams.net/users/dagmar/blogid10324006/ 08:30 <@polerin> Oh sorry read extensions not plugins 08:30 <@polerin> yeah I'm aware 08:30 <@Dagmar> I was wondering how long it would take before this shit would be at my doorstep 08:30 <@polerin> because I have a beef with most extensions :) 08:31 <@Dagmar> I think maybe one to analyze 404 documents for non-kosherness would be a good idea 08:31 <@SkyDog_> Morning all. 08:31 <@Dagmar> If it reported back to say, Google, that could shut their shit down 08:32 <@polerin> Dagmar: yeah but thats a limited extension, and the fact it's designed with security in mind would make me hope it was designed and coded in a sane manner 08:32 <@polerin> there are so many extensions that aren't 08:32 <@Dagmar> ...cuz the moment ad banners started coming back 404 with a document OTHER than just plain HTML, say, something calling for a plugin... 08:33 <@Dagmar> Firebug isn't a problem 08:33 <@polerin> yeah 08:33 <@polerin> I don't think I could live without firebug at this point... well I could, but I don't want to 08:33 <@polerin> it's SO freaking usefull 08:34 <@Dagmar> I like it 08:37 <@Dagmar> thumbs: I just wrote a thing up on Memestreams about it, so if they've still got it at work http://www.memestreams.net/users/dagmar/ might be easier to remember 08:37 <@Dagmar> wrong chn 08:44 <@Dagmar> Jesus fucking christ 08:45 <@Dagmar> http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/computers-technology/i-need-help-no-one-is-helping-me-its-been-two-days-now/t.36070717/ 08:45 <@Dagmar> A 16 year old girl being blackmailed for pictures 08:48 <@NotLarry> At least we now know social engineering is not hacking 08:49 <@Dagmar> Man the cops JUST busted a guy for this shit a few weeks ago 08:50 <@NotLarry> Speaking of, the 14 year old girl I met on gaiaonline showed up at my house last week... 08:51 <@Dagmar> Not funny dude 08:51 <@NotLarry> What? She did. 08:51 <@Dagmar> Some chick did that to me an jonnyx in reference to the radio station 08:51 <@Dagmar> It's one of your kid's friends, right? 08:51 <@Dagmar> I just changed my response on thta thread 08:51 <@NotLarry> the girl he's dating, yeah:) 08:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh 08:52 <@Dagmar> Big red letters: "FORUM MODERATORS" do not touch this thread please, yadda yadda yadda 08:53 <@Dagmar> I'mma follow up on this until I know it's been resolved 08:53 <@Corydon76-dig> NotLarry: setting up your kids on dates, eh? 08:55 <@ladymerlin> Corydon76-dig: speaking of dates...how did yours go? 08:56 <@Dagmar> I'm not overreacting on this am I? 08:56 <@Corydon76-dig> The date went fine 08:56 <@Dagmar> I mean, it really sounds like someone's been blackmailing this 16 year old girl for probably skin pix 08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> and what exactly is so important to her that she thinks skin pix are less dangerous? 08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Or wait, it's not blackmail, but random, perhaps 08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> err, ransom 09:00 <@Corydon76-dig> ladymerlin: not sure if I want to see her again, though 09:02 <@polerin> heh 09:02 <@polerin> makeup. 09:02 <@polerin> XD 09:06 <@nachoguy> mr0nin 09:06 <@nachoguy> http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5852858 09:06 <@nachoguy> hahaha 09:06 <@nachoguy> _Baichwal reported feeling a cold draft after the silver Mazda minivan crashed near the interview set at the southern end of the studio._ 09:09 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:10 <@nachoguy> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20071223/ten-smith-hitler-was-a-good-person-c60bd6d_1.html 09:13 <@Dagmar> Okay just sent the girl a PM on Gaia 09:14 <@Dagmar> I'm gonna find out what's going on with this shit and send someone to fuckin' big man's jail 09:15 <@sdodson> dagmar = hero! 09:15 <@sdodson> with a cape and all 09:15 <@Dagmar> I'm telling her rather explicitly that if she's even the least worried about calling the FBI, I will personally call up Valk and get this squared away for her 09:15 <@sdodson> teen aged mutant ninja dagmar 09:16 <@Dagmar> Man I can't stand child exploitation 09:16 <@Dagmar> It breaks my fuckin' heart 09:16 <@NotLarry> nachoguy: What was the stuff you brought to phreaknic to drink? 09:17 <@sdodson> Guess I should read the back log. 09:17 <@Dagmar> Probably so 09:20 <@sdodson> i'm going to an ironman, yay 09:20 <@sdodson> those people are nuts 09:20 <@sdodson> swim 2.4 miles, bike 112 miles, run 26.2 miles 09:21 <@sdodson> non stop 09:21 -!- lone_wolf [n=lone_wol@adsl-074-181-107-250.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 09:21 -!- lone_wolf [n=lone_wol@adsl-074-181-107-250.sip.bna.bellsouth.net] has left #se2600 ["http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm1VlFSFPRs"] 09:23 <@NotLarry> Dagmar: You know how I was swapping the decaf and the caf coffee? 09:24 <@Dagmar> Eh? 09:25 <@NotLarry> I took my gift card they gave me and bought a bag resealer, and I crushded up a bunch of benadryl and mixed it into the bag of decaf coffee... The next work day here should be interesting 09:25 <@Dagmar> very funny 09:25 <@Dagmar> 09:26 <@Dagmar> Being a savegame cheater, I'm going to go back to killing Big Brothers now 09:26 <@Dagmar> Killing the little sisters is way too easy 09:27 <@Dagmar> I can see why it's billed as "Horror" now 09:27 <@Dagmar> They keep you just plain running for your life a lot 09:27 <@Dagmar> ...and here's a fun thing your kids may object to at first 09:27 <@Dagmar> You can say "bye bye" to fire discipline 09:27 <@Dagmar> If the bad guys jump on your ass while you're shooting, you get freaked out and WILL empty the gun at them 09:28 <@Dagmar> It's pretty goddamn cool how it works 09:28 <@sdodson> need moar cash flow 09:28 <@Dagmar> It deserved GOTY 09:28 <@NotLarry> I hope the fucking delivery ppl show up like they say and I get to play this game tomorrow 09:29 <@Dagmar> Your "omnipresent advisor" in the game is basically, a coward and a junkie, and HE'S one of the more responsible people there 09:29 <@Dagmar> The whole thing is a major mindfuck 09:30 <@Dagmar> The city isn't dead, by any measure 09:30 <@Dagmar> It's still very much alive and hungry for fresh suckers 09:30 <@sdodson> ajax is leet, now we have realtime 20 minute delayed quotes! 09:31 <@Dagmar> Holy shit the goddamn thing injected itself into system restore 09:32 <@polerin> yeah bioshock demo freaked me out for the first time in a long time 09:33 <@polerin> when the door closed (yeah I know, not the biggest thing but..) 09:33 <@polerin> I want to play the rest of it 09:34 <@sdodson> what's the controversy over bioshock? 09:34 <@sdodson> drm or someish? 09:34 <@polerin> none that I'm aware of but I havent' been paying attention 09:35 <@NotLarry> you inject yourself with drugs and wasps fly out of your skin and kill little girls 09:35 <@NotLarry> I think that sort of game comes with it's own controversy 09:36 <@NotLarry> damn, we got to get a pvr in here, I just saw a macy's ad that was a dipiction of a blow job 09:37 <@Dagmar> You can set little girls on fire 09:37 <@Dagmar> Well, if you can find them 09:38 <@polerin> Dagmar: meh. whatever.... given the context of the story... wait we are talking about controversy, they dont' care about context! 09:40 <@Dagmar> WEll, it's a wild story 09:40 <@Dagmar> Really cool from a sociology standpoint 09:41 <@Dagmar> Society went right off the rails when plasmids came into the picture 09:41 <@Dagmar> ...and there's that whole "fine line between genius and insanity" angle 09:41 <@Dagmar> ...that stuffing a city full of geniuses who are all borderline lunatics may very well represent a cumulative function 09:45 <@polerin> hehe 09:45 <@polerin> Dagmar: not to mention that the society is designed to promote individual ego and superiority complexes 09:45 -!- deoptima [i=deo@c-68-53-139-206.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:45 <@polerin> deoptimasucks**cough** 09:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, but how well does he suck? 09:46 <@NotLarry> polerin: you still work for the cable gods? 09:46 <@Dagmar> polerin: Well, the problem is that the ego issues are a side-effect 09:47 <@Dagmar> The city is actually designed to let people have their full reign 09:47 <@polerin> gods.. yeah 09:47 <@Dagmar> ...the problem is what those people do with it 09:47 <@polerin> Dagmar: bah, listen to the whole intro speach 09:47 <@Dagmar> I don't want to spoiler it, but one of the guys is a plastic surgeon who became a bit more jaded 09:47 <@Dagmar> I listened carefully to it 09:47 <@NotLarry> polerin: do they have a website i can put in an address and see if it can get cable/internet? 09:47 <@polerin> it's capitalist robber baron language, "NOBODY WILL TAKE WHAT IS YOURS!$$%#@@$%!" 09:48 <@polerin> NotLarry: yeah there's one out there, don't remeber what it is now 09:48 <@polerin> you in nashville? 09:48 <@polerin> if so, just go with http://comcast.com 09:48 <@NotLarry> white's creek 09:48 <@Dagmar> I actually had to listen to the thing three times in a row because there's a bug in the PC version that if you have a widescreen display, the game crashes when you're doing to get out of the bathysphere the first time 09:48 <@polerin> heheh 09:48 <@Dagmar> I got real familiar with what Ryan was saying 09:48 <@polerin> NotLarry: yeah close enough, check the site 09:48 <@nachoguy> NotLarry: Potcheen 09:49 <@Dagmar> There's a plastic surgeon in the game who was originally doing masterful work, and then he got bored 09:49 <@Dagmar> ...and then they found a plasmid that would let them heal anything they did. 09:49 <@Dagmar> ...and then the dude kind of went 'round the bend. 09:49 <@Dagmar> He started idolizing Picasso 09:50 <@Dagmar> This is not something most people would typically find useful in a plastic surgeon 09:50 <@Dagmar> This game definitely tells a story 09:51 <@Dagmar> All over the place you'll find tape recordings that fill in the details of what's happened since the city was first built 09:51 <@Dagmar> ...and unlike a Myst plotline, those crazy fucks are all still there 09:56 <@NotLarry> polerin: thanks, looks like I can get internet 09:57 <@polerin> hehe 09:58 -!- deoptima [i=deo@c-68-53-139-206.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:59 -!- deoptima2 [i=deo@c-68-53-139-206.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 09:59 <@someninjamaster> notlarry when did you move to whites creek 10:00 < ware> werd 10:05 -!- deoptima [n=deoptima@c-68-54-232-19.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #SE2600 10:05 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o deoptima] by ChanServ 10:06 -!- deoptima [n=deoptima@c-68-54-232-19.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["+++ OK ATH OK"] 10:14 <@NotLarry> Wow, just sas a mad naked fight scene. ffn and all 10:14 <@NotLarry> two or three months ago 10:14 <@NotLarry> ware: When are we gonna start skating? I'm putting on the pounds and need to start doing something to get them off 10:15 <@NotLarry> s/sas/saw 10:15 <@polerin> NotLarry: eastern promises 10:15 <@polerin> ? 10:16 <@NotLarry> fuck, the eye 10:16 <@NotLarry> yeah, hard movie to watch 10:18 <@polerin> I need to watch it 10:18 -!- deoptima [n=deoptima@c-68-54-232-19.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 10:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o deoptima] by ChanServ 10:19 <@polerin> speakign of good movies 10:19 <@polerin> watch The Good Shepard.. 10:20 -!- deoptima2 [i=deo@c-68-53-139-206.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )"] 10:22 <@polerin> deoptima: quit rejoining you baddie. 10:22 <@Jagobah> what about the bucket list ;o 10:23 <@polerin> the bucket list? 10:27 <@Jagobah> Is it a good movie? 10:30 <@polerin> oh 10:31 <@Jagobah> (07:41:39AM) It takes fucking AGES to scan someone's hard drive when they _never uninstall anything_ but those two programs he referred me to purged everything but some of the registry entries <---- which programs? 10:31 <@polerin> haven't seen it.. is that the one with Morgan Freeman and whats his face? 10:31 <@Jagobah> I currently use NTREGOPT and Baku for that 10:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Gone Baby Gone ? 10:35 <@Jagobah> Never heard of that one 10:37 <@NotLarry> FUCKING UPS!!!! 10:43 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 10:43 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 10:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Morning, brimstone 10:51 <@brimstone> blah 10:51 <@brimstone> need a ups on this box 10:51 <@brimstone> 3rd power failure in 4 days 10:53 <@brimstone> the good news is that when i turn my 20" to portait, i can get everyone on my buddy list visible :D 10:53 <@Corydon76-dig> lol 10:53 <@Corydon76-dig> There's a feature we need in Pidgin... multi-column buddy lists 10:54 <@brimstone> i like adium's grouping feature 10:55 <@NotLarry> fucking ups driver said "Delivery attempted" on my package 10:56 <@NotLarry> Doors are unlocked, I have printed signs saying to take all deliveries to the room I have been in since 11:30, and somehow I wasn't here to accept the package 10:58 <@polerin> NotLarry: call UPS 10:58 <@polerin> bitch them the fuck out 10:58 <@polerin> I did that with my monitor 10:58 <@polerin> they sent him back 11:12 <@NotLarry> Well, now that they are sending him back the door is locked. Seems it wasn't before 11:13 <@NotLarry> I'm just going to have to kill them 11:17 <@brimstone> don't shoot the messenger 11:17 <@brimstone> just hold him hostage 11:22 <@polerin> ok 11:22 <@polerin> you know the thinkgeek eq shirt? 11:23 <@polerin> I want an eq hat. 11:23 <@polerin> that would be better 11:23 * brimstone doesn't 11:23 <@brimstone> link? 11:23 <@polerin> sec 11:23 <@polerin> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/8a5b/ 11:24 <@brimstone> that's cool 11:26 <@polerin> I want it in a hat 11:26 * brimstone agrees 11:27 <@polerin> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/97f7/ If it weren't pink... 11:29 * brimstone leaves that one alone 11:31 <@polerin> :P 11:39 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: but pink is SUCH your color 11:39 <@polerin> :P 11:39 <@polerin> cute 11:39 <@NotLarry> fucking fedex will not deliver my package today 11:39 <@NotLarry> Vanderbilt informed them that campus is closed so they are not allowed to make deliveries 11:39 <@NotLarry> AAAAARRRRRG 11:40 <@brimstone> pick up? 11:40 <@polerin> hehe 11:40 <@NotLarry> yeah, it's about 4 miles away, open till 6pm:) 11:41 <@NotLarry> got the ups guy to come back though:) 12:15 -!- deoptima [n=deoptima@c-68-54-232-19.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Hah... apparently "O Little Town of Bethlehem" works perfectly to the tune of "House of the Rising Sun" 12:19 <@brimstone> link? 12:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Listening to a track 12:29 <@Corydon76-dig> "Amazing Grace" is the more traditional one sung to that tune 12:30 <@nachoguy> I'd rather listen to house of the rising sun sung to the tune of "O Little Town of Bethlehem" 12:32 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't actually know the lyrics to "House of the Rising Sun" 12:39 -!- remoford [n=remoford@adsl-224-32-81.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 12:51 <@polerin> There is.. a house... in new orleans... 12:51 <@polerin> THEY CALLLllLlllllL the riiiiizing suuuunnnn.. 12:51 * polerin hushes 12:54 <@someninjamaster> sup remo 12:55 <@ladymerlin> whee 13:00 <@someninjamaster> whats up ladymerlin 13:00 <@ladymerlin> not much 13:03 <@brimstone> EEEEEEEUUUUUURRRRROOOOOO TTTTRRRRRRAAAASHHHH GGGGIIIIRRRRRLLLLL 13:29 <@SkyDog_> Ok, My ex wife is clearly satan. 13:29 <@ladymerlin> lol 13:30 -!- JimShoe [n=JimShoe@208.72.153.173] has quit ["leaving"] 13:31 -!- JimShoe [n=JimShoe@208.72.153.173] has joined #se2600 13:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o JimShoe] by ChanServ 13:36 <@Corydon76-dig> What'd she do now? 13:36 <@brimstone> more like who 13:36 <@brimstone> ZING! 13:37 <@SkyDog_> well, she wants me to keep my son overnight so that she can have her boyfriend come over for the evening. 13:38 <@SkyDog_> I'm fine keeping him, but it's sad that she'd prefer to fuck her boyfriend than spend christmas evening with my son. 13:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Hah 13:43 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has quit ["gone to sleep"] 13:47 -!- someninjamaster [n=someninj@c-68-53-159-99.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 13:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o someninjamaster] by ChanServ 13:58 < ware> yeah christmas morning with the little ppl is great 14:05 -!- Synx_hm [i=Synx@ppp-69-239-240-30.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #se2600 14:05 < Synx_hm> what up peeps 14:06 <+coil> hi Synx_hm 14:08 < ware> notta 14:08 < ware> bout to make a treasure hunt / riddle game for the lil bros 14:09 < Synx_hm> cool 14:09 < Synx_hm> geo caching with the family is always fun 14:10 < ware> haha this is gonna be little riddles to tell them to go somewhere on the farm and get the next clue for the present 14:10 < ware> but they dont know about it yet 14:11 < ware> moms gonna let em open one gift this afternoon and its gonna be a card with all these hints and crap to find the Wii 14:12 < Synx_hm> thats a great idea 14:12 < Synx_hm> i dig it 14:14 < Synx_hm> ugh i need an old version of ghost 14:14 < Synx_hm> and i cant find my ghostpe.exe 14:15 < Synx_hm> i dont know why, but whem in home visiting the family it always seems like a good time to format my laptop and start a-new without any of the stuff ive got at home lol 14:16 < Synx_hm> i do this every freaking year 14:16 < ware> haha 14:16 < ware> it gets boring hanging out with teh fam for 4 days 14:16 <+coil> ware: fumar mota 14:17 < ware> english motherfucker 14:17 <+coil> smoke weed 14:17 < Synx_hm> http://www.kewl.ch/bild/8214 14:17 < Synx_hm> haha 14:18 < Synx_hm> that shit is awesome 14:18 < Synx_hm> rules to live by 14:18 <+coil> cant fucking read it 14:19 < Synx_hm> whys that? 14:20 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: so, are you teaching your little bros the best way to fuck cattle? 14:20 <+coil> oooo good one Corydon76-dig 14:21 < Synx_hm> haha 14:22 <+coil> nah Synx_hm he'll think of some whitty gay comment to say 14:22 < Synx_hm> hehe 14:22 <@Mirage> wtf is whitty? 14:22 <+coil> the name of the dildo i used to fuck your mom 14:23 <+coil> then i killed that bitch 14:25 < ware> 1) Im friends with the mailman and watch cars pass all day. 14:25 < ware> 2) Im in the field and cows eat out of me. 14:25 < ware> 3) If 1=A, 13=M, and 25=Z, then 6-17-8-21-21 14:25 < ware> 4) Bobbits, Sandalf, Mippin, Pary, and Godo in: The Poo Powers! 14:25 < ware> 5) F_R_P_A_E 14:25 < ware> haha 14:25 < ware> i think they should be able to get those 14:48 -!- Synx_hm [i=Synx@ppp-69-239-240-30.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:34 <@Dolemite> h0 h0 be0tches! 15:34 <+coil> hi Dolemite 15:34 <@someninjamaster> sup dolemite 15:34 <+coil> omghai2u Dolemite 15:34 <@Dolemite> Just waitin' on Sandy Claws 15:34 <@someninjamaster> oh 15:36 <@Dolemite> I may start marking where I need to drill the hole for my draught tower on the kegerator. 15:36 * coil marks on Dolemite's face 15:37 * Dolemite wipes his ass with coil's face 15:37 <+coil> it smells so much better now 15:45 < ware> hoe hoe hoe 15:45 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch! 15:45 < ware> wassa 15:45 <@Dolemite> http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071223/BUSINESS/712230314/1088 15:45 <@Dolemite> BBQ movin' to Lascassas 15:45 < ware> just went all over the farm planting the riddles 15:45 <@Dolemite> We'll have to go eat some 15:46 < ware> nice judge beans is awesome 15:46 <@Dolemite> yep 15:46 < ware> we had whitt's on friday for work 15:46 <@Dolemite> but I hate their downtown location 15:46 <@Dolemite> I'm not a fan of Whitt's, but it seems to be the most popular around here 15:46 <@Dolemite> I like Bar B Cutie 15:46 <@Dolemite> and of course, Jack's BBQ 15:47 <@Dolemite> You should have been with us when I took about half the goon squad from PN0x0b up to Jack's on Saturday afternoon 15:47 < ware> hrmmm saturday afternoon... i was probably sleeping and/or drunk 15:48 <@Dolemite> I think that's when you were sexing it up with Corydon 15:48 < ware> yep, that was it 15:48 <@Dolemite> speaking of which, I wonder how his "date" went on Friday 15:49 < ware> http://digg.com/people/Wife_Stabs_Husband_for_Opening_Xmas_Present_Too_Early 15:49 < ware> im interested in that as well 15:49 <@Dolemite> ~minilink 15:50 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/digg.com/mcLSM 15:52 <@Dolemite> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/12/24/vo.drunk.santas.ap 15:52 <@Dolemite> ~minilink 15:52 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/cnn.com/TDNLz.ap 15:56 < ware> http://turretdefensegames.com/ 15:57 * brimstone <3 turretdefense 15:58 <@brimstone> lol, ok 15:58 < ware> desktop tower defense is my fav 15:58 < ware> next to buttsechs with Corydon76-dig of course 16:00 < ware> http://www.drivl.com/posts/view/461 16:01 <@Corydon76-dig> of course 16:02 <+coil> Corydon76-dig: Dolemite wants to know how the hot date went 16:03 <@Corydon76-dig> It went fine 16:03 <@Dolemite> Enquiring Minds want to know 16:04 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm more shallow and superficial than I ever thought 16:04 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:04 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:04 <@Dolemite> heh, let me guess. You were offered some play and you turned it down. 16:04 <+coil> or the opposite 16:05 <@Dolemite> No, wait. That's too far out there. 16:05 <@Corydon76-dig> When someone loses all their hair to cancer, I just can't get used to having sex with someone wearing a wig 16:05 <@Dolemite> But you can do it every once in a while? 16:05 <+coil> :( 16:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Do what? 16:06 <+coil> unf unf 16:06 <@Dolemite> You said you couldn't get used to sex0ring them up. How 'bout just every once in a while? 16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> That's pretty much the story since I'm single 16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Hell, it was pretty much the story for the past 3 years 16:07 <+coil> but you didn't get none when you had someone 16:07 <@Dolemite> He got plenty at cons :P 16:07 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:07 -!- SkyDog_ [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: once at a con is plenty? 16:07 -!- SkyDog_ [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, once at each con may be more than Dol is getting, but he's got a hot babe at home 16:08 <@Dolemite> Yeah, well, you did come up a bit dry this year, but past years that's not the case. 16:08 <@Dolemite> Hell, you even fucked murd0c 16:09 <+coil> awww Corydon76-dig didn't get any at the con? 16:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: no, it was still only once per con... 16:09 <+coil> i knew i should of went 16:09 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: nope 16:09 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: and brought your boyf 16:09 <+coil> like he would be interested in a con 16:09 <@Dolemite> Well as fun as it is to talk about Corydon76's spelunking, I need to go start dinner before 2.0 wakes up. 16:09 <@Dolemite> 'tis naptime, ya know 16:10 <+coil> he doens't like drinking that much, doesn't smoke 16:10 <+coil> and uses myspace 16:10 <+coil> he wouldn't of had fun 16:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, jeez, myspace? and you're still with him? 16:11 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:11 <+coil> well he doesn't use it that much since i've met him 16:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh 16:11 <+coil> he's more into the whole radio dj thingy 16:11 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: I don't smoke or drink all that much, either 16:12 <+coil> but you like computers 16:12 <@Corydon76-dig> I drank a single bottle of beer over the past 2 nights 16:12 <+coil> the same beer? 16:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Twist off caps are great... 16:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, the same beer 16:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Cap kept it from going flat 16:13 <@Corydon76-dig> I didn't see the need in consuming more 16:14 <+coil> beer sux 16:14 <+coil> i want some liquor 16:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Not the stuff I'm drinking... Yuengling Black & Tan 16:14 -!- Synx_hm [i=Synx@ppp-69-239-240-30.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #se2600 16:14 < Synx_hm> I give up on ghost 16:14 < Synx_hm> it wont see my wd usb passport on boot :( 16:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Their Porter (which is half of the Black & Tan) has a really nice flavor 16:15 < Synx_hm> i really dig the serra nevada porter 16:20 <@sasquatc4> ahh, nothin like workin on christmas eve 16:20 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:20 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:20 < Synx_hm> sucks 16:21 < Synx_hm> Corydon76-dig, btw who's porter were you speaking of? 16:21 <@sasquatc4> naw, no one is there, got off work early, wasnt even there half the time 16:22 < Synx_hm> hehe 16:22 <@sasquatc4> and now i get to play with ma new midi keyboard 16:27 < Synx_hm> sweet 16:27 < Synx_hm> i need to find some good linux midi software\ 16:27 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:28 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:30 < Synx_hm> doh dropped ipod == broken hd 16:30 < Synx_hm> hrm 16:30 <@sdodson> omg explaining portals to my dad is stressfull. 16:30 <@sdodson> "you have to understand, i'm an old man i dont play all these shooting games" 16:31 <@sdodson> but its sooo simple! 16:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: Yuengling 16:45 < Synx_hm> ahh 16:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Oldest brewery in the US 16:46 <+coil> Corydon76-dig: i have a yuengling hat 16:46 <@sdodson> that stuff is like one step up from pbr 16:47 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: you're crazy 16:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Yuengling is a very good microbrewery 16:48 <@sdodson> thats what all the foks around raleigh drink when they want cheap stuff i think 16:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Yuengling isn't cheap 16:49 <@sdodson> i thought it was 16:49 < Synx_hm> im a huge fan of all sierra nevada stuff 16:49 <@sdodson> i dunno i dont buy beer so oh well 16:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, definitely not 16:49 <@sdodson> sierra nevada is da bomb 16:49 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:49 <+coil> pale ale 16:49 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:49 <@sdodson> thats what i get when they have it 16:50 <@sdodson> are pale ales for wussies? 16:50 <@Corydon76-dig> If you were looking for cheap beer, you'd never touch Yuengling... we're talking about the same price as Newcastle or Heineken 16:50 < Synx_hm> yar 16:50 < Synx_hm> drinking pale ale right now 16:50 < Synx_hm> w00t 16:50 < Synx_hm> the porter is really good too 16:51 <@sdodson> jewcastle is what i get if they dont have sierra nevada 16:51 < Synx_hm> sdodson, i think the sierra nevada pale ale is for real beer drinkers only, its so bitter most people wont drink it 16:51 <@someninjamaster> corydon what do you brine your turkey with 16:51 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:51 <@sdodson> i have some porter in the fridge 16:51 -!- SkyDog_ [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:51 <@sdodson> newcastle i meant 16:51 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: I have a large pot that I add a cup of kosher salt to 16:51 < Synx_hm> most stick ti corona with lime to calm the taste, im not a big fan of that 16:51 <+coil> sdodson: lrn2beer 16:51 <@someninjamaster> ah 16:52 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: no herbs or spices at all 16:52 <@someninjamaster> i used some from william sonoma 16:52 -!- seeblind [n=seeblind@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:52 <@sdodson> coil teach me# 16:52 <@someninjamaster> it had some zest and rosemery and peppers 16:52 * coil drinks his budweiser 16:53 <@sdodson> ever heard of people calling budwieser a sandwich? 16:53 <+coil> no 16:53 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: liquid lunch? 16:53 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:53 <+coil> cuz it has so many carbs? 16:53 <@sdodson> wonder what was up with those cats 16:53 <@sdodson> mqybe 16:53 < Synx_hm> ugh i cant drink bud or the like, it just tastes horrid, ie no taste at all 16:54 <@sdodson> i'm not supposed to drink 16:54 <@sdodson> i get stupid when i do 16:54 <+coil> you mean out of the ordinary 16:55 <@sdodson> ya 16:55 <+coil> no stupider then me, ever 16:55 < Synx_hm> ok im out for a bit 16:56 <@sdodson> anyone who still has involuntarmuscle control is better thab you 16:56 <@sdodson> thus keyboard sucks 16:56 -!- SkyDog_ [n=SkyDog@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:56 <+coil> no user error 16:57 <@sdodson> no 16:57 <+coil> yes it is 16:57 * coil argues some more 16:57 <@sdodson> lulz 16:58 <+coil> doinging it for the lulz 16:58 <@sdodson> ihave an ear ache 16:58 <+coil> sdodson: i have shit in my ear 16:58 <+coil> still... 16:58 <@sdodson> sounds like an odd fetish if you ask me 16:58 <+coil> no 16:58 <@sdodson> tubes? 16:58 <+coil> like ear infection... 16:59 <+coil> and it's almost hurting now 16:59 <@sdodson> they suck 16:59 * coil puts some drops in it 16:59 -!- ladymerlin [n=ladymerl@mail.mybluefunk.com] has joined #se2600 16:59 -!- Synx_hm [i=Synx@ppp-69-239-240-30.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 16:59 <@sdodson> an his bluefunk is impressive 17:24 < remoford> merry christmas folks 17:24 <@dasunt> How are sobriety checkpoints legal? 17:24 < remoford> dasunt: cuase if yo dont like them you must be a drunk 17:24 < remoford> or a terrorist 17:25 < remoford> maybe a drunk terrorist 17:25 <@dasunt> Ah, okay. 17:25 <@dasunt> The Michigan Supreme Court had found sobriety roadblocks to be a violation of the Fourth Amendment. However, in a 6-3 decision, the United States Supreme Court found properly conducted sobriety checkpoints to be constitutional. Michigan Department of State Police vs. Sitz (1990) Although acknowledging that such checkpoints infringed on a constitutional right, Chief Justice Rehnquist argued that the state interest in reducing drunk driving outweighed th 17:25 <@dasunt> "Although acknowledging that such checkpoints infringed on a constitutional right, Chief Justice Rehnquist argued that the state interest in reducing drunk driving outweighed this minor infringement." 17:25 < remoford> yep 17:26 <@dasunt> That's my problem, I didn't realize that the bill of rights had a drunk driving exemption. 17:26 < remoford> eg, no they arent legal 17:26 < remoford> and fuck you 17:26 <@dasunt> "Chief Justice Rehnquist argued that an exception was justified because sobriety roadblocks were effective and necessary." 17:26 <@dasunt> Ah, and the bill of rights also has a "but violiating this is effective and necessary" exemption. 17:27 <@dasunt> http://www.checkpointusa.org/Checkpoints/Sobriety/sobrietyCheckpoints.htm 17:27 <@dasunt> I like Minnesota. 17:28 < remoford> doesnt mean shit, the feds have ruled 17:28 < remoford> free mars motherfuckers 17:28 <@dasunt> But it can't trump state law, it seems. 17:28 <@dasunt> Woot! 17:29 < remoford> dasunt: did you happen to miss the civil war? fed always trumps state 17:29 < remoford> the state may decide not to spend money and "thier" police to setup blocks 17:30 < remoford> but thats about it 17:30 <@dasunt> remoford: Look at the article -- it seems that for (at least state) police, they can be restricted by state law/state constitution. 17:30 <@dasunt> Now, in theory, this means that the federal law enforcement could still do it (maybe), but I'm not sure. 17:31 < remoford> they can 17:31 <@dasunt> I'm guessing interstate commerce clause would be abused, er, I mean apply. 17:31 < remoford> but more importantly with a supreme court ruling 17:31 < remoford> congress can flat out mandate said roadblocks 17:31 < remoford> they just havent gotten around to it yet 17:31 < remoford> wait till after the election cycle 17:31 <@dasunt> They'd probably just tie it to public funding. 17:32 < remoford> then its "your papers please" nationwide 17:32 < remoford> and prolly roadblocks at every state border crossing 17:32 < remoford> its already that way between arizona and california 17:32 <@dasunt> I wonder if that would be illegal. 17:32 < remoford> you have to stop and get your free prostate exam 17:32 <@dasunt> If it is by state police, I (sadly enough) would assume it should be illegal. 17:33 <@dasunt> Since states cannot interfere in interstate commerce. 17:33 < remoford> nonetheless 17:33 < remoford> ive driven that state border, it looks like they built it a long time ago 17:34 < remoford> ill just stay away from california 17:35 < remoford> even better 17:35 <@dasunt> Only time I've been to Cali is flying into SanFran. 17:36 <@dasunt> Which is a beautiful town. 17:36 < remoford> wait for the state/local police UAVs equiped with thz backscatter machines 17:36 < remoford> they will be for your own good and take nice pictures of the inside of your house every 15 mins 17:36 <@dasunt> I'm told that has been found illegal, in at least one state. 17:36 <@dasunt> (It was heatlamps that detected a pot farm operation) 17:37 < remoford> that was the old school tech 17:37 < remoford> besides 17:37 < remoford> someone will fight it up to the supreme court eventually 17:37 < remoford> and we will get this nessecarry and effective bullshit all over again 17:38 < remoford> 1 yr later, federal mandate 17:38 <@dasunt> I hope that sooner or later, the constitution gets a privacy amendment. 17:38 <@dasunt> But probably not... 17:39 < remoford> heh 17:39 < remoford> good luck with that 17:39 < remoford> free mars, its our only chance 17:40 <@dasunt> remoford: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/31180 17:41 <@dasunt> The sad thing is, there will probably be a day that isn't satire. 17:42 <@dasunt> I had the strangest dream last night. 17:44 <@dasunt> I came home, and went to the downstairs apartment, and there was a guy there from the government that was putting a monitoring device on the cable line. 17:45 <@dasunt> I asked him what it was for, and he said the government was monitoring the downstairs neighbors. 17:45 <@dasunt> So I said that I think I'm going to switch to tor anyways and he said it was a good idea. 17:45 <@dasunt> Then he asked if I wanted the memory wiping shot, and I said no, but he said it was rather fun, so I agreed. 17:47 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has joined #se2600 17:47 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o Catonic] by ChanServ 17:47 <@Catonic> http://www.rob-sheridan.com/sketchblog/pics/xmas2007.jpg 17:52 <@dasunt> Sick, twisted and funny. 17:55 <@Catonic> my brain feels like mush 17:58 <@dasunt> I should do laundry today. 17:58 <@dasunt> Meh. 17:59 <@freakn> hit up a laundramat on xmas eve, anyone there will be single 17:59 <@freakn> easy to pick em up 18:00 <@dasunt> I'm in suburbia, which foils your plans. 18:02 <@Catonic> dasunt: no such thing. 18:03 <@freakn> find the closest walmart, low wage 1960's apartment, or any business with spanish in it's sign. A laundramat will be near by 18:03 <@Catonic> I know of one place that is not true. 18:04 <@Catonic> http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&q=laundromat&near=Homewood,+AL&fb=1&ll=33.442901,-86.816025&spn=0.170742,0.195351&z=12&om=1 18:04 <@Catonic> ~minilink 18:04 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/google.com/xNEHf 18:05 <@Catonic> There's a Walmart on Lakeshore. There is no laundromat near it. 18:05 <@dasunt> There's only one laundromat in town. 18:05 <@dasunt> It kinda sucks. 18:05 <@dasunt> And its about 2 miles from Walmar.t 18:05 <@freakn> I bet if you expand the subjective term "near by" it can be 18:05 <@Catonic> oh excellent.. 18:06 <@Catonic> dasunt: if you're willing to look around there are women to be found... usually... they are just walking around waiting to be found. 18:06 <@freakn> how old is the walmart? Has it had time to drive down local residential yet? 18:08 <@dasunt> Yes it has. 18:09 <@dasunt> Catonic: The problem is that I'm outside the beltway, the population is older and/or more idiotic out here. 18:09 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:18 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: have you tried a dating site like gk2gk.com ? 18:18 -!- brimstone [n=brimston@pdpc/sponsor/digium/brimstone] has joined #se2600 18:18 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o brimstone] by ChanServ 18:21 <@Catonic> jesus christ, it's full of women 18:22 <@freakn> ? 18:22 <@freakn> oh oh 18:22 <@freakn> you gotta pay though 18:22 <@Catonic> some of those chicks are cute.. 18:22 <@freakn> dating sites like that might cater to the girl that goes on a date for lots of money 18:23 <@freakn> I was discouraged by messages I was recieving from people. I never whipped out the credit card to follow through 18:24 <@Catonic> "hi want to get together and make love like a lifeguard humping a dead whale?" 18:24 <@dasunt> Craigslist is free. 18:24 <@dasunt> Never tried that either. 18:24 <@freakn> plentyoffish.com is free 18:24 <@Catonic> dasunt: do something, do anything... just DO something. 18:26 <@Catonic> shit, I about picked up an indian chick this afternoon.. 18:26 <@dasunt> And you didn't? 18:26 <@dasunt> Dude, not to be racist or anything, but to be racist, THE COOKING! 18:26 <@Catonic> ... I wasn't trying... 18:26 <@Catonic> zomg yes, I love indian food.. 18:26 <@Catonic> "it burns, but it tastes so good......" 18:26 <@freakn> indian chicks are hot 18:27 <@freakn> got alot of them running around my college, fresh off the boat 18:27 <@Catonic> I automatically assume that 99% of them are betrothed. 18:27 <@Catonic> I think this is my fallacy. 18:27 < ware> freakn: plentyoffish.com is full of fugly fatties 18:27 <@freakn> ware: I have met .... um .... myabe 1 attractive woman there? 18:27 <@Catonic> ware: in a collegetown, what do you expect? 18:28 < ware> all the ppl around me are nasty fuglies 18:28 <@freakn> Catonic: things are changing in their culture. It may only be 95% now 18:28 <@freakn> Atlanta = College town? 18:28 <@dasunt> What's /proc/kcore 18:29 <@Catonic> oh.. I'm not a racist... 18:29 <@dasunt> Who said you were a racist? 18:29 <@Catonic> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson%2C_Mississippi <- 30% of the homes are married. 30% are single parent... 18:30 <@freakn> Single? Move to Austin or Denver 18:30 <@dasunt> I was using "but to be a racist" in a more literal, less collequial sense: assuming that all Indian girls are capable of Indian cooking. 18:30 <@dasunt> Which is technically racist (and logically wrong), but not KKK-ish racist. 18:31 <@Catonic> I think there are some things that are fundamentally wrong in black culture. 18:32 <@Catonic> the census data from 2000 alone.. 18:32 <@dasunt> Catonic: I know what you are trying to say, and I agree, but even though I also use the term "black culture", I wish there was a better term for it. 18:32 <@dasunt> Because there is such a thing as a black middle class which probably doesn't share the same culture as what is commonly thought of as "black culture". 18:33 <@Catonic> Bill Cosby spoke about it numerous times. I dismissed it, thinking it was just one concerned celebrity trying to make a statement for the advancement of people... 18:33 <@Catonic> hell no, the man has a sentient point... 18:33 <@dasunt> Catonic: He does. 18:33 <@dasunt> Yes, racism does play a part in the lower living standards of African Americans in the US. 18:34 <@dasunt> But so does single-parent families and a less of a focus on education. 18:34 <@Catonic> NotLarry: I met a law student the other night and didn't piss her off... 18:36 <@dasunt> Catonic: I think that Bill Cosby is a little jaded with the black community. 18:37 <@dasunt> Back in the day, he believed in equal rights. 18:37 <@Corydon76-dig> He still believes in equal rights 18:37 <@Corydon76-dig> He just thinks that some people have given up their responsibilities 18:37 <@dasunt> And now that blacks have an access to the same opportunities as whites, he's saddened by how many don't take the opportunities. 18:37 <@Corydon76-dig> and have embraced victimhood 18:38 <@dasunt> I like how you used "some people". (Seriously) 18:38 <@dasunt> But is it victimhood, or just general apathy? 18:38 <@Corydon76-dig> I think he's right, though it's not a matter of race. 18:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Apathy would actually be better than victimhood 18:39 <@dasunt> It isn't race at all. 18:39 <@dasunt> But for some reason, some of the statistics are worse off for some races than others. 18:39 <@Corydon76-dig> No, I think that's more a matter of class 18:40 <@Corydon76-dig> and upbringing 18:40 <@dasunt> I'm not sure if it is only class, or class & culture. 18:40 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the culture of entitlement 18:40 <@Corydon76-dig> People who are raised to work hard, to pull themselves up don't have this problem 18:40 <@dasunt> What do you mean by "entitlement"? 18:41 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the idea that you will be taken care of, no matter what choices you make 18:42 <@Corydon76-dig> I agree with entitlement only when the subject is unable to control their surroundings, as is with the case with kids born into welfare families 18:42 <@Corydon76-dig> The kids didn't have the choice, so we should (and do) help them out 18:42 < remoford> not really 18:42 < remoford> we would help them out if we took them out of those families 18:42 <@Corydon76-dig> but they need to learn that the entitlement only exists until they turn a certain age, beyond which they are left to sink or swim 18:42 < remoford> giving $x more dollars doesnt help 18:43 <@Corydon76-dig> If they don't go to college, then the entitlement should stop at 18 18:43 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: See, I think that there should be a government safety net for everyone, but that the current safety net is screwed up, both in what it provides, and what it encourages (or doesn't ecourage) people to do. 18:43 <@Corydon76-dig> If they work hard in high school and go to college, then we should support them until they get their higher education degree 18:44 <@Catonic> hey, having to work to feed yourself keeps the jamacans from turning to crime and lethargy. 18:44 <@Corydon76-dig> The problem is that they are raised with the expectation that the government will continue to help them out ad infinitum 18:44 < remoford> dasunt: so long as the safety net is appropriatly electrified 18:44 <@dasunt> I know someone who is suffering from some form of mental illness. 18:44 <@dasunt> He rents a room in a shared living situatioin. 18:45 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: I don't know a single person who isn't suffering from mental illness 18:45 <@dasunt> Small building, rent is a fraction of his income. 18:45 <@dasunt> IIRC, his government handout is about $700/month or so. 18:45 < remoford> beyond a certian degree of mental illness is fair nuff 18:45 <@dasunt> I don't consider that ecessive. 18:45 < remoford> if you regurally see your grandmother crawling up your leg with a knife in her teeth, you deserve a break 18:46 <@Corydon76-dig> I'd agree with that 18:46 < remoford> however, if you are minorly depressed, perhaps not 18:46 <@Corydon76-dig> but those are the exception, not the rule 18:46 < remoford> yes 18:46 < remoford> mental illness policy is a hard subject 18:46 <@dasunt> Yah, welfare shouldn't be a way for the lazy to avoid working while the working poor are worse off. 18:47 <@Catonic> but that's the american way, and moreover, the walmart way. 18:47 <@dasunt> And sometimes, it isn't even the lazy -- I've known at least one person who was better off not working for a year due to how private healthcare vs public healthcare was set up. 18:47 <@dasunt> Then again, that is probably a national healthcare system failure. 18:49 <@Catonic> Dear Santa, please bring me a 5'7" blonde with big tits for xmas. Thanx-- Catonic 18:49 * Corydon76-dig orders a drag queen for Catonic 18:50 < remoford> i can find a wig 18:50 < remoford> and i already have big tits 18:50 < remoford> but you will have to deal with the 6'3" 18:50 <@Catonic> ow, my side hurts..... 18:51 <@Corydon76-dig> remoford: do you have child bearing hips, too? 18:51 < remoford> you know it 18:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Can you go barefoot and work in the kitchen? 18:51 < remoford> shoulders too 18:51 < remoford> i go barefoot whenever possible 18:51 < remoford> but im no good with a kitchen 18:52 <@Corydon76-dig> What about the bedroom? 18:52 < remoford> im no good thier either 18:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, too bad 18:52 <@Corydon76-dig> You otherwise could have made a good wife 18:52 < remoford> yeah but then id hafta shave 18:52 <@Catonic> I hope one day to make a good wife. 18:53 < remoford> Catonic: from parts? 18:53 <@Catonic> she'll probably make a good wife once she's done with my leacherous ass. 18:59 <@sasquatc4> mmm, jewish christmas eve, always a wonderful time 19:00 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkZe-B9-kus 19:03 <@Catonic> sasquatc4: are you jewish? 19:03 <@sasquatc4> yessum, well brought up jewish, i dunno if i would really consider myself jewish anymore 19:04 <@Catonic> is your mother jewish? 19:04 <@sasquatc4> she converted 19:05 <@Catonic> dicey 19:06 <@freakn> anyone got an open proxy that works? 19:06 <@Catonic> yeah, 127.0.0.1. 19:06 <@freakn> har har 19:06 <@Catonic> tor.. 19:07 <@freakn> hm, I'll take a look. Was hoping for a simple number. 19:08 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: proxy for what? 19:08 <@Catonic> socks, http, etc.... 19:09 <@freakn> http, trying to get a java web app working behind this unknown firewall. Quite a bit is blocked I know 19:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah 19:10 <@freakn> looks like they subscribe to a list of "naughty sites", along with blocking random ports like ssh and some vpn 19:11 <@freakn> tor looks intresting 19:12 <@dasunt> freakn: tunnel over http? 19:13 <@freakn> I need somewhere to go though 19:13 <@freakn> I Can't get out to configure on my home computer, and I keep forgeting to do it when I am back at my parents house 19:13 <@Catonic> hehe... put a box there you can shell into 19:13 <@freakn> lots of free time here at the hospital .... I sleep when I leave 19:14 <@dasunt> I need to go shopping soon. 19:14 <@dasunt> Very soon. 19:14 <@Catonic> this place is a ghost town 19:14 <@dasunt> And do laundry. 19:14 <@freakn> dasunt ... wow, last minute 19:15 <@Catonic> yeah, and hey, if you go find a cute chick at the laudromat, you can steal her dirty laundry 19:16 <@freakn> ha 19:18 <@Catonic> is there anything else do to at the laundromat? I mean, you dont actually want to talk to a girl... no, that might cause one thing to lead to another... 19:18 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: I can set up a bounce port if you want one 19:19 <@Catonic> reverse shells for the win 19:19 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: say, port 16000 bouncing to port 22 on your machine? 19:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Give me an IP and I can set it up 19:20 <@freakn> lemme try tor a bit more 19:20 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: I'd imagine there are easier ways to get into his pants than bouncing his packets. 19:20 <@freakn> and I am on a windows machine 19:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Should only take a few minutes to set up ssh on an alternate port on your box, and you're good 19:20 <@freakn> el laptopo 19:21 <@dasunt> Wow. 19:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: you assume that I actually think I can get into his pants 19:21 <@dasunt> Just looked up the price on an 18" LED bulb to replace a florescent tube: $100-ish. 19:22 <@Catonic> I assume you're trying to get into any pair of pants that doesn't have a vagina in it 19:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Don't get me wrong. I'd love to get into his pants (he's very cute), but I doubt that'll happen 19:22 <@freakn> I am still in the room ... 19:23 <@Catonic> Corydon76-dig: ever thought about changing your look? 19:23 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: thought, sure 19:23 * dasunt almost wants to use that as a sig. 19:24 <@dasunt> "You don't actually want to talk to a girl" 19:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: but I'd only change my look if I was getting nothing at all. 19:24 <@Catonic> why not commit? 19:24 <@Catonic> so it's a binary switch to you... 19:24 <@Corydon76-dig> As it stands, I can get sex pretty much any time I want 19:25 <@Catonic> if not getting sex, change. 19:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, no, there are other considerations, too 19:26 <@Corydon76-dig> I have a look of respectability, which I cherish 19:26 <@Catonic> why do I get the feeling we're about to see a comment about facial hair tickling another guy's nether regions... 19:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Ponytail has a bit of ingrained respect attached to its holder 19:26 <@Catonic> respectability? You can get that more by personal interaction than any "look" 19:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, but first impressions are important 19:27 <@Catonic> on waht do you base this assertion? 19:27 <@Catonic> linky? 19:27 <@Corydon76-dig> If I look the part of a distinguished programmer/hacker, then as long as I do nothing to counteract that impression, people think that I know what I'm talking about 19:28 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: So don't open your mouth? :p 19:28 <@Catonic> yeah, but there's miles of difference between your look and Jonathan Schwartz's look. 19:28 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: I also have a deep commanding voice 19:28 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: authoritative voice 19:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: who? 19:29 <@Catonic> http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/ 19:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Yep, he's also clean shaven 19:30 <@Corydon76-dig> I went with a moustache/beard to make me look older, back when I was around 22 19:31 <@Catonic> gee... so did I. 19:31 <@Corydon76-dig> He's shaved his, to make himself look younger 19:32 <@dasunt> How does a port bouncer work? 19:32 <@dasunt> Just an iptables rule? 19:32 <@dasunt> Or is there an actual program that does that? 19:32 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: it's a relatively simple program 19:33 <@Corydon76-dig> It just accepts a packet, rewrites the TCP/IP headers and sends it right back out 19:33 <@Corydon76-dig> It needs to alter the TCP headers, because it's typically bouncing to another port 19:33 <@dasunt> *nods* I understand that, but how do you actually impliment that? Through iptables, or? 19:34 <@Corydon76-dig> A program 19:34 <@Corydon76-dig> I think there's a way to do it with iptables, too 19:34 <@Corydon76-dig> but you have to use the mangle filters, otherwise you're just proxying the packet, without actually changing the headers 19:35 <@Corydon76-dig> and that won't work most of the time 19:35 <@Dolemite> Oiy. I'm getting too old to chase around a 2 year old all hyped up on Christmas gifts and sugar. 19:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: heh 19:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: you're on IRC at night. The sky must be falling. 19:36 <@Catonic> Dolemite: what do you buy a 2 year old? 19:36 <@Dolemite> yeah, yeah, I'm about to go watch football 19:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Anything but sugar, apparently 19:36 <@Dolemite> Catonic : Empty boxes and lots of different types of wrapping paper 19:36 <@Catonic> i've been told the boxes are more amusing at this point.. 19:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Catonic: the bigger the better 19:37 <@Catonic> I have a box full of bubble wrap... 19:37 <@Dolemite> Actually he got a toy train set and once he saw that, he pretty much refused to open anything else 19:37 <@Corydon76-dig> He'd go wild over a refrigerator box 19:37 <@Dolemite> 80% of this year's gifts for him are still wrapped 19:37 <@Catonic> I can't fit a gaylord in my car, but I know where there's one I can steal. 19:37 <@freakn> I can't get the java applet to go through tor right. everything else that was blocked is working now, though 19:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: hah 19:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: did I tell you what I got my youngest niece? 19:38 <@Dolemite> I did get a nice stocking stuffer - an Arduino USB programmable control board 19:38 <@Catonic> how old is your youngest niece? 19:38 <@Dolemite> No, what did you get her? 19:38 <@Corydon76-dig> She's almost 2. 19:39 <@Corydon76-dig> I got her a TMX Elmo. She loves it. 19:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Her parents, OTOH, are ready to stuff a sock down Elmo's throat 19:39 <@Dolemite> Ah, yeah 19:39 <@Dolemite> we got him one of those last year 19:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, she loves Elmo, though 19:40 <@Corydon76-dig> When she grows up, she wants to marry Elmo 19:41 <@Dolemite> Mine lost interest after a couple of months and moved on to Disney Cars 19:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, no doubt she will, too 19:41 <@Dolemite> Well, as promised, I'm off to drink homebrew and watch football 19:41 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4x-VW_rCSE 19:41 <@Corydon76-dig> In the meantime, I will stay far, far away from Pennsylvania, where her parents live 19:41 <@freakn> I give up on the java applet, but thanks for showing me Tor, catonic 19:42 <@Catonic> I wish our beagle had been that playful 19:42 <@Catonic> she'd have been baying at it for 20 minutes after the first movement 19:43 <@Catonic> did you update java? 19:52 <@dasunt> Should I do my laundry on Xmas? 19:54 <@Catonic> get your ass out there, don't waste one more second of contemplation... DECIDE. 19:58 < remoford> dasunt: burn your laundry 20:01 <@dasunt> *catches the cat drinking out of the toilet* 20:01 * dasunt pukes. 20:02 <@Catonic> remoford: she's in TN... the dogs don't have his scent yet 20:04 <@Catonic> I mis mah beagle 20:09 < remoford> ? 20:10 <@Catonic> I'm from Alabama... it's allowed. 20:10 <@Catonic> I misses my hound doggie 20:13 < remoford> your dog died or something? 20:15 <@Catonic> she's been gone a few years. 20:15 <@Catonic> the most lovable annoying as shit dog you'd ever meet. 20:15 <@Catonic> and if you didn't live under the roof with her... you'd never know that.. 20:16 <@Catonic> she went apechit the first time she saw a human under 5' tall. 20:16 <@Catonic> hey remo, did you see the pix of my new car? 20:16 < remoford> no 20:16 < remoford> link? 20:17 <@Catonic> sent. 20:18 < remoford> good god 20:18 < remoford> why did you buy that? 20:18 <@Catonic> it's diesel. 20:18 <@Catonic> and it's stick/ 20:18 <@Catonic> it's neat to drive a stick, not having driven one before. 20:18 < remoford> will your ass even fit in that thing? 20:18 <@Catonic> remo please... 20:18 <@Catonic> remember who you're talking to... 20:18 < remoford> mine wouldnt 20:19 < remoford> i can apprectiate the deisel but i would not drive that 20:19 <@Catonic> you're thinking http://catonic.us/me/634_3464.sized.jpg... not: http://catonic.us/me/3/ph53.jpg 20:20 < remoford> true dat 20:20 < remoford> i think im going to go put a few bags of quickcrete in the trunk of my car 20:20 < remoford> and then bitch some more about the gas milage 20:21 <@Catonic> you won't catch me bitching about gas milage. 20:21 <@Catonic> did coil make it to AL? 20:23 < remoford> http://www.zercustoms.com/news/images/2008-LS3-Corvette.jpg <- might hafta get one of these for my birthday 20:24 <@Catonic> http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/street-racing-rides/2008-honda-s2000-cr/6270184+w480+cr1+re0+ar1/2008-honda-s2000-cr-side-view.jpg <- I'll settle.. 20:24 <@Catonic> I don't like the cockpit, but I love the styling. 20:26 < remoford> i dotn want a new car, just a new drivetrain 20:26 <@Catonic> btdt... I'm on my second engine, second trans, second diff, second driveshaft... 20:27 <@Catonic> somewhere there's economy... I'm trying to figure out where it is... 20:27 <@Catonic> there are a lot of approaches to getting power on demand and fuel efficency... with the S2000, Honda went for power at the high end. If you want fuel econonmy, don't rev it up.. 20:27 < remoford> displacement on demand, thats where it is 20:28 < remoford> hence the LS3 20:28 <@Catonic> American engineers kept with the cylinders, but shut them down 20:28 < remoford> yep 20:28 < remoford> americans belive in the old maxim, no replacement for displacement 20:28 <@Catonic> I've eschewed all american manufacturers... They haven't made a product I liked in a few years, and certainly not to quality. 20:29 <@Catonic> Indy cars have 3.0L engines running at 21,000 rpm, generating in excess of 850 hp. 20:29 < remoford> ok 20:29 < remoford> and they last how long? 20:30 <@Catonic> They only have to last about a thousand miles or so.. but those are the engines of the jet-set elite, the ones who will kill a sports car and have enough money to buy six of them to replace it. 20:31 < remoford> well, the point here is that none of those high rev engines are roadable 20:31 <@Catonic> 2.73 final drive? wtf?! 20:31 <@Catonic> that should be a 3.42 or 3.73 with seven gears... 20:31 <@Catonic> maybe first is 13:1... 20:32 <@dasunt> I'm shoveled out. 20:32 <@Catonic> modern production cars are scary... I had a friend who test drove a GTO after they came out.. 20:32 <@Catonic> he put it in forth and turned the corner at 15.. 20:33 <@Catonic> he said it didn't stall and it felt like it would pull it all the way up.. 20:33 <@Catonic> the interiors to american cars just look cheap to me. 20:33 < remoford> they say you can take a zo6 put it in 5th and never shift it again, stuck in traffic or no 20:33 <@Catonic> especially the stereos 20:34 <@Catonic> wow, finally a stick shift car my mother can drive.. 20:34 < remoford> Catonic: this is why you need a mid 90's caddy 20:34 < remoford> that there is a nice interior 20:34 < remoford> but only in that beautiful dove gray 20:35 <@Catonic> http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/1996/Cadillac/728/1996.cadillac.fleetwood.1588-396x249.jpg 20:35 <@Catonic> http://www.avto-otchet.net/CarReviews/2266_0.jpg 20:35 <@Catonic> http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/1996/Chevrolet/17329/1996.chevrolet.caprice.1911-396x249.jpg 20:35 <@Catonic> notice the resemblance? 20:36 < remoford> nope 20:36 < remoford> the fleetwood is a buick roadmaster 20:37 < remoford> not a caprice 20:37 <@Catonic> they are all the same car forward of the trunk 20:37 < remoford> they are close 20:37 < remoford> but the roadmaster and the fleetwood are pretty much just different trims 20:37 <@Catonic> remoford: remember what I drive? 20:37 < remoford> a vw rabbit 20:38 < remoford> you usta drive a fucking cop car right 20:38 <@Catonic> zomg I forgot who caprice was... bbl. 20:38 <@Catonic> http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/224368~Caprice-Posters.jpg 20:38 <@Catonic> wow... 20:39 <@Catonic> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/1996_Caprice_9C1.JPG/800px-1996_Caprice_9C1.JPG 20:40 <@Catonic> I was raised on The Dukes of Hazzard and Smoky and The Bandit... 20:40 <@Catonic> a police car is useless unless it's throwing up roostertails of dust in full-on oversteer... 20:41 < remoford> i found the traction control switch finally 20:41 < remoford> hidden away like a gspot 20:41 <@Catonic> hrm? 20:41 < remoford> now i dont cut hexagons 20:41 <@Catonic> what are you driving? 20:41 < remoford> 96 fleet 20:42 <@Catonic> hexagons? 20:42 <@Catonic> no shit, you're driving a 96 fleetwood? 20:42 < remoford> yeah 20:42 < remoford> good condition too for the most part 20:42 <@Catonic> ODB-II? 20:42 < remoford> yep 20:42 <@Catonic> tree-fiddy? 20:42 < remoford> tree fiddy? 20:42 <@Catonic> 350.. 20:42 <@Catonic> LT1 20:42 < remoford> yeah 20:43 < remoford> with a gear on it 20:43 < remoford> and a ball hitch 20:43 <@Catonic> nifty... I blew mine's guts out all over the highway 20:43 < remoford> yeah 20:43 <@Catonic> this one is getting ready to go as well 20:43 < remoford> i blew a radiator out in the middle of the desert with it 20:43 <@Catonic> 268K on the clock.. 20:43 < remoford> had the pcv stick and blow oil all the fuck over it 20:43 <@Catonic> you got a handle on the reverse-flow cooling system yet? 20:43 < remoford> water pump died 20:44 < remoford> several problems with ignition system 20:44 <@Catonic> water pumps are common... 20:44 < remoford> and the tranny could use a rebuild 20:44 <@Catonic> optispark is atrocious 20:44 < remoford> no shit 20:44 <@Catonic> if you lose the waterpump, bye-bye high voltage. 20:44 <@Catonic> I lost a month-old opti when my crankshaft broke on my 95. 20:44 < remoford> the fucking water pump if it leaks it leaks right into the opti 20:45 <@Catonic> $260 brand new GM part down the fucking drain 20:45 < remoford> coil on plug 20:45 < remoford> but 20:45 <@Catonic> I still have my #1 piston here at the office. 20:45 <@Catonic> coil on plug? wtf are you smoking.. 20:45 <@dasunt> CAR GEEKS! 20:45 <@Catonic> there's only four options for the 96 LT1... 20:45 < remoford> im thinking instead of trying to get over the hump with this engine (what else could possibly go wrong) im thinking a new LS3 + tranny 20:46 < remoford> there are aftermarket coil on plug kits 20:46 <@Catonic> stock, LTCC, [mumble], and Delteq 20:46 <@Catonic> the delteq is the best idea imo 20:46 <@Catonic> least intrusive 20:46 < remoford> well youve worked on these 20:46 < remoford> is it worth keeping/fixing up at 160kmiles or replace 20:47 < remoford> keep in mind its been overheated due to catastrophic coolant loss twice that i know up 20:47 <@Catonic> oh a few things... O2 sensors are only good for 50K miles. on the odb-ii cars, remove the back O2s, and replace with $35 sensor simulators 20:47 <@Catonic> I blew my first engine at 257K miles. 20:48 <@Catonic> or was it 237K.. 20:48 < remoford> that aint bad i suppose 20:48 <@Catonic> at 160K you can get another 100K out of it, if you don't do any towing 20:48 < remoford> my ford 4.6L is just about had it at 100kmiles 20:48 <@Catonic> bear in mind that I bought an auctioned police car with 203K on it and replaced the trans one month later. 20:48 <@Catonic> you have to watch that weep hole under the waterpump... 20:49 < remoford> yeah 20:49 <@Catonic> and if the temp gage starts jumping, shut it down right then. 20:49 <@Catonic> it will survive a lot if you don't abuse it too badly. 20:49 < remoford> it got replaced along with the whole ignition system recently 20:49 < remoford> the water pump 20:49 < remoford> and now im loseing coolant slowly 20:49 <@Catonic> well, the optispark is a 100K item iirc.. 20:49 <@Catonic> where from? 20:49 < remoford> i figure ill jsut keep adding some now and them 20:49 < remoford> fuck if i know 20:49 <@Catonic> heatercore? 20:50 < remoford> its a slow slow leak 20:50 <@Catonic> you can't look at the exhaust on the car... it's the best thing for turning gasoline into steam. 20:50 <@Catonic> radiator is a common failure item... do you have twin electric fans? 20:50 < remoford> uhh 20:51 < remoford> again, dunno 20:51 < remoford> it has a new radiator 20:51 < remoford> after it blew up in the desert 20:51 <@Catonic> yes, you do. 20:51 < remoford> who decided to put plastic sides on it 20:51 <@Catonic> oooh... 20:51 <@Catonic> http://paloneva.freeshell.org/fleetw/fleetwood07.jpg 20:52 < remoford> what? 20:52 < remoford> the fleet wasnt made in 97 20:52 < remoford> come on 20:52 < remoford> that look about right tho 20:52 <@Catonic> http://www.nobbie.com/9c1ss_files/image010.jpg 20:52 < remoford> add some burnt oil and you got it 20:53 <@Catonic> you can remove home plate, makes the engine much easier to work on.. 20:53 <@Catonic> go to lowes, get a 3" Test Cap, spray paint it black. 20:53 <@Catonic> or use a hockey puck 20:53 <@Catonic> http://9c1.com/technical/index.html 20:53 <@Catonic> all the intake stuff there will work on your car.. 20:53 <@Catonic> exhaust as well.. 20:54 <@Catonic> my car has no cats :) 20:54 < remoford> why do i want to block the intake? 20:54 <@Catonic> you're not blocking the intake, just removing the hemolitz resonators that eliminate the sucking sounds from the engine 20:54 <@Catonic> makes it a lot cleaner... 20:55 <@Catonic> then you can install corvette dress... 20:55 < remoford> i couldnt care less what it sounds like 20:55 <@Catonic> http://9c1.com/images/dress/engine1.jpg 20:55 <@Catonic> trust me, if you have to wrench around the car, the less crap in the way, the better. 20:55 < remoford> btw, have you ever tried replacing the spark plug wires on ona them? 20:56 <@Catonic> I've torn the entire engine wiring harness of one engine and stuck it on the other. 20:56 < remoford> biggest hassle ev4r 20:56 <@Catonic> I paid someone to do that... 20:56 <@Catonic> it is the biggest hassle ever... a dealership quoted me $3000 to do it once. 20:56 < remoford> ok that is a bit inflated 20:56 <@Catonic> http://www.theherd.com/articles/vette.html 20:56 < remoford> most ppl told me 400$ 20:57 <@Catonic> http://www.theherd.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=26 20:57 <@Catonic> $400 is about right 20:57 < remoford> so i just waited to do som eother shit 20:57 < remoford> where you had to take things off already 20:57 <@Catonic> I did a combo job, had the wires done and the optispark replaced.. 20:57 < remoford> yeah 20:57 < remoford> its nice to have all 8 fire 20:57 <@Catonic> I took in a new waterpump and they installed it free. 20:57 < remoford> 7 cyls is sorta rough 20:57 < remoford> but it got me across the usa 20:57 <@Catonic> dude... swap to 3.42s and the beast wakes up 20:57 <@Catonic> no more straining to pass... 20:58 <@Catonic> the issues with the platform are that the LT1 has motor mounts in different places than most other SBC engines. 20:59 <@Catonic> I'm probably driving on six. 20:59 <@Catonic> but I think I'm about to lose my bearings too. 21:03 <@dasunt> Classy. 21:04 <@Catonic> no, your mother's ass is classy.. 21:42 < SkyDog_> evening all. 21:49 <+coil> hi Catonic 21:52 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #se2600 21:52 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o MudFlap] by ChanServ 21:55 <@sdodson> lolz catonic just made a your mom joke 22:05 < SkyDog_> Yo mudflap! 22:05 <@sdodson> whats the average number of shoes an adult male buys per year? 22:06 <@juice> 1/3 22:06 < SkyDog_> what? 2 pair? 22:06 < SkyDog_> I would say that is right. 22:06 <@sdodson> ok 22:06 <@juice> i buy about 1 pair every 2-3 years :P 22:07 <@sdodson> i buy probably two a year 22:08 * Catonic looks at the closet full of shoes 22:08 <@Catonic> two pair is about right... 22:08 <@Catonic> but you only need about four pairs of shoes 22:08 <@Catonic> unless you _need_ more than than.. 22:09 <@Catonic> a good pair of running shoes, pair of boots, two pairs of dress shoes (brown/black). 22:09 <@sdodson> sandals 22:09 <@Catonic> and if you're prone to wearing out a pair of shoes, another pair of sneakers for work. 22:09 <@Catonic> shit. 22:09 <@Catonic> I left my sandals in my gym locker. 22:10 <@sdodson> i've got sandals, workout shoes, moderately clean tennis shoes, brown and black low cut boots 22:10 <@Catonic> I need a nice pair of shitkickers, and another pair of tennis shoes. 22:10 <@Catonic> well, running shoes... except that I don't run anymore.. 22:12 <@MudFlap> Yo skydog! 22:13 <@sdodson> oh then my white converse but i retired them when i realized i wasn't a "balla" 22:15 -!- MudFlap [n=chatzill@c-98-193-130-156.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #se2600 [] 22:16 <@Catonic> shit bro 22:16 <@Catonic> you can be balla if ya wants to 22:16 < SkyDog_> Well hell, I put down the laptop to install batteries in greg's new toy car, and he bails. 22:18 <@Corydon76-dig> As in, he went to bed? 22:19 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: you here? 22:22 <@Evilpig> yes 22:28 <@Psyiode> merry xmas and shit 22:31 < SkyDog_> Yeah, that. 22:32 * Catonic shakes the boxes under the tree, looking for the one that contains the leggy blonde... 22:32 * Catonic headdesks for effect 22:33 <@Catonic> I just made a seriously boneheaded move. 22:33 * sdodson detects a pattern here somewhere 22:36 <@Catonic> you too? I always detect patterns of boneheaded moves 22:37 <@sdodson> i can haz cell signalz plz 22:37 <@sdodson> kthnxbai 22:37 <@Evilpig> anyone know what the old man wanted? 22:38 <@sdodson> sex drugs and rock'n roll 22:45 * sdodson reads a book 22:58 -!- Catonic [n=cinotac@adsl-068-209-203-168.sip.hsv.bellsouth.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:59 <@dasunt> Back from the laundrymat. 23:03 <@dasunt> No cute girls. 23:03 <@sdodson> yay clean clothes 23:03 <@sdodson> bummer 23:03 <@dasunt> Yep, clean clothes. 23:04 <@sdodson> the few times i've hit a laundrymat its foreigners 23:33 <@someninjamaster> merry christmas all 23:40 <@brimstone> happy new year! 23:41 <+coil> hi 23:45 <+coil> http://www.ipv6porn.com/ 23:58 -!- Synx_hm [n=synx@ppp-69-239-240-30.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #se2600 23:58 < Synx_hm> werd 23:59 <@brimstone> no 23:59 <+coil> hi 23:59 <+coil> brimstone: no plz 23:59 <+coil> MERRY FUCKING CRHSTMASS!!11 --- Log closed Tue Dec 25 00:00:00 2007