--- Log opened Sun Dec 23 00:00:48 2007
00:13 <@someninjamaster> coil timemachine is the shit
00:15 <@someninjamaster> its one of my favorite 10.5 additions
00:19 <@sdodson> party in muh pants!
00:20 <@sdodson> apparently time machine is chewing through 15gb a month on a friend's machine
00:20 <@sdodson> just with simple web browsing
01:00 <@someninjamaster> external dedicated drive ftw
01:04 <@freakn> to recharge a Lead Acid battery or NiMH battery, can I just provide a slightly higher voltage for a very extended duration?
01:04 <@freakn> not looking for the best recharge ... just something that works
01:12 <@someninjamaster> hit it with as much juice as possable as fast as possible
01:13 <@someninjamaster> with your face within 6" of it
01:20 <@Dagmar> You're looking to start a fire.
01:21 <@Dagmar> Charging circuits work one of two ways
01:21 <@Dagmar> Well, three.
01:21 <@Dagmar> There's the kind that trickle, where a small amount of reverse current is applied for a period of time.  Small enough that it's not going to generate excessive heat if the battery gets full.
01:22 <@Dagmar> There's the kind that charge at close by feeding close to full power in reverse, which *also* pay attention to the resistance of the battery, because resistance == heat and that makes batteries splode.
01:22 <@brimstone> my favorite is trickle
01:22 <@Dagmar> ...and there's the kind where rednecks just hook up a battery backwards and it bursts into flames.
01:23 <@Dagmar> ...usually after they've walked away because it didn't explode immediately, so they figured it was dine.
01:23 <@Dagmar> s/dine/fine/;
01:25 <@Dagmar> Wow.
01:25 <@Dagmar> OKay, here's proof that the new people on G4 running attack of the show are retarded.
01:25 <@someninjamaster> yeah
01:25 <@Dagmar> They were just doing a review of "Walk Harder"
01:25 <@someninjamaster> but olivias hot
01:25 <@Dagmar> She's stupid.
01:25 <@someninjamaster> at least she doesnt have a manjaw
01:25 <@Dagmar> There's a running joke in the movie where one of the sponsors is "Cox" sausages
01:26 <@Dagmar> ...so the actors have all these jokes where they say "I love cocks"
01:26 <@Dagmar> What does Olivia say?
01:26 <@Dagmar> "I love cock."
01:26 <@Dagmar> NOT a real bright girl.
01:26 <@someninjamaster> but damn shes cute
01:26 <@Dagmar> We did not make TechTV a big channel beause we wanted to watch hot chix.
01:27 <@Dagmar> There are other channels, AND internet pornography up to your eyebrows if you want it.
01:27 <@Dagmar> We watched Miss "Manjaw" because she was *smart*
01:27 <@someninjamaster> im not sure i would say smart
01:28 <@Dagmar> That's ebcause you didn't watch the show
01:28 <@someninjamaster> yeah i guess she must have been smart back be fore i started watching zdtv
01:30 <@Dagmar> Never did I see Morgan say something as stupid as what Olivia just said.
01:30 <@someninjamaster> i really wish we had pat and leo back
01:30 <@Dagmar> ...and this idiot who works along side her is apparently 12
01:30 <@brimstone> ok, you are talking about webb...
01:32 <@someninjamaster> yeah
01:34 <@polerin> wow i' mtired
01:34 <@someninjamaster> i have to say she does look better than kate botello
01:34 <@someninjamaster> or whatever her name was
01:35  * Corydon76-dig just picked up a color laserjet...
01:35 <@someninjamaster> cool
01:35 <@someninjamaster> which one
01:35 <@brimstone> and through it?
01:36 <@brimstone> *threw?
01:36 <@Corydon76-dig> compusa has all printers at 10% off
01:36 <@brimstone> everything is at 10% off right?
01:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Not everything.  Everything is "up to" 30% off
01:36 <@brimstone> bah
01:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Laptops seemed to all be only 5% off
01:37 <@someninjamaster> any apple stuff on sale
01:37 <@someninjamaster> i need a new imac
01:37 <@Corydon76-dig> The accessories that nobody buys anyway were at 30% off
01:37 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: Yes, but they had no iMacs that I could see
01:37 <@someninjamaster> damn
01:37 <@Corydon76-dig> They had a few Mac Minis...
01:37 <@someninjamaster> i guess im going to be heading to the apple store
01:38 <@Corydon76-dig> They also had a 30" wide Apple Cinema Display for fairly cheap
01:38 <@Corydon76-dig> $1500 or so
01:39 <@Corydon76-dig> I was looking at it, thinking... wow... and then I though, where would I put it?
01:39 <@someninjamaster> haha
01:39 <@brimstone> mount it like a trophy
01:39 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
01:39 <@Corydon76-dig> So I have a HP 2600N
01:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Basically, they discount the sales tax, and add it back on, so you pay a little less than list, including tax
01:40 <@someninjamaster> nice
01:41 <@someninjamaster> we have a 2840 at work thats awesome
01:41 <@juice> hi
01:41 <@someninjamaster> is there a student discount on mac pros
01:41 <@Corydon76-dig> This one is 8ppm... not terribly fast, but color laser is pretty sweet
01:42 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: I think so
01:42 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: however, Jeremy at VCCH recommends that you sign up for Student Developer
01:42 <@Corydon76-dig> because Student Developers get huge discounts on exactly 1 desktop and 1 laptop per year
01:43 <@Corydon76-dig> and the price you pay for the Student Developer is more than made up for on the discount
01:43 <@someninjamaster> hmm
01:43 <@someninjamaster> what qualifys you for it
01:44 <@Corydon76-dig> You need to be a student at an accredited university
01:44 <@brimstone> not eating the mouse
01:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Then claim that you're a developer.  They never check if you release anything
01:45 <@someninjamaster> hmm
01:45 <@Corydon76-dig> http://developer.apple.com/products/student.html
01:47 <@someninjamaster> intresting
01:47 <@someninjamaster> i wonder whats the better buy
01:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Looks like they clamped down since Jeremy was a member...
01:48 <@Corydon76-dig> One system per lifetime
01:48 <@brimstone> lame
01:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Still, you'd be better off
01:48 <@someninjamaster> what about a select membership
01:48 <@someninjamaster> this is for my company btw
01:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
01:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Dunno
01:49 <@someninjamaster> i was going to let them use my student discount so i could get a little better machine
01:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, and Jeremy got all OS updates mailed to him whenever a new release came out
01:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Kick ass deal
01:50 <@brimstone> what's the mysql column type that is binary data of any length?
01:51 <@Corydon76-dig> you mean a BLOB?
01:51 <@brimstone> i guess
01:51 <@Corydon76-dig> blob is up to 64k, mediumblob is up to 16MB, long blob is up to 4GB
01:51 <@polerin> it's not of any length, but LONGBLOB will probably suit you
01:52 <@polerin> damnit tilghman stop being on top of crap
01:52 <@polerin> feh fuggit.  I'm going to bed
01:52 <@polerin> I don't even know why I'm up.. i'm not getting anything usefull done
01:52 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: you forget that I was a MySQL db admin at booksamillion
01:52 <@someninjamaster> polerin: i got banned from my cs:s clan
01:53 <@polerin> I forget nothing.  ... ok tha'ts not true
01:53 <@brimstone> what benefits do i get for a mediumblog over longblob?
01:53 <@polerin> I forget lots of things, but that's not one o
01:53 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig, i got a heck of a database question for you then
01:53 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: k
01:53 <@polerin> snm... ?
01:53 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig, mind if we go to pm?
01:53 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: benefit of mediumblob is that it uses 1 less byte per record
01:53 <@someninjamaster> i pwned the leader so bad he said i was hacking
01:54 <@polerin> heh
01:54 <@polerin> well if you think you're that cood you can always see if alaron wants you
01:54 <@polerin> though he may not be interested... right now it's off season and not many people are around :)
01:54 <@brimstone> i thought :s was very strong against hacking?
01:55 <@polerin> brimstone: yeah.  we are.
01:55 <@brimstone> there's an off season for CS:S ?
01:55 <@someninjamaster> eh i decided to leave cs:s for awhile
01:55 <@polerin> brimstone: CAL
01:55 <@someninjamaster> and get back to bf2
01:56 <@someninjamaster> holy shit the dell wow laptop is 4500 dollers
01:57 <@wontonjoe> wow ware mad it onto a star wars site, why im not sure....
01:58 <@wontonjoe> mad=made
01:58 <@wontonjoe> http://starwars.yahoo.com/videos/wares-yoda-remix
02:00 <@polerin> bed
02:00 <@polerin> night
02:02 <@someninjamaster>  anyone have experence with vmware fusion and parallels
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02:04 <@wontonjoe> i iz has parallels
02:04 <@wontonjoe> what do ya need help with?
02:04 <@freakn> I guess I could always just buy a chepo recharger and do auto-relay things
02:04 <@someninjamaster> i have parallels too im just wondering if vmware fusion is better
02:05 <@freakn> *cheapo
02:05 <@wontonjoe> ive heard it is, unfortunately i havent used it, isnt it free?
02:05 <@someninjamaster> i dont think so
02:05 <@wontonjoe> ah i heard somewhere a while back vmware went free, i geuss this did not include fusion
02:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Fusion was free during the beta cycle
02:06 <@Corydon76-dig> It's now in release
02:06 <@wontonjoe> i paid my 1000 dollar deposit on my house im renting today, that was craptasticly painful this close to christmas
02:06 <@wontonjoe> ah ok, thanks for clearing that up Corydon76-dig
02:06 <@Corydon76-dig> $80 retail for Fusion, but you can knock off about $10-$20 on various sites
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02:07 <@wontonjoe> im content with parallels, i dont know why id need another solution
02:07 <@freakn> wonton: your pain will now be someone else's christmas
02:07 <@wontonjoe> freakn, quite true
02:08 <@freakn> think of the good and joy you are giving someone else
02:08 <@wontonjoe> im still gonna have a great christmas
02:08 <@freakn> and be content that even with 1000, they still can't buy a wii off the shelf
02:09 <@wontonjoe> this house was built in the early 1900's has wood floors and has just been completely renovated, 1100 sq ft two stories two bed two bath, its awesome
02:09 <@Corydon76-dig> By the time the end of January comes around, they will have caught back up
02:09 <@brimstone> i saw 3 wiis at GameStop today
02:09 <@wontonjoe> WII
02:09 <@wontonjoe> dont buy from hsv gamestop
02:09 <@freakn> 3 wiis, or 3 wii boxes?
02:09 <@wontonjoe> they are the devil
02:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Anyway, I'm off to bed
02:10 <@brimstone> 3 boxes...
02:10 <@wontonjoe> gnight corydon76-dig
02:10 <@wontonjoe> brimstone were these EMPTY display boxes?
02:11 <@brimstone> ...YES!
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02:11 <@freakn> you can buy empty wii boxes on e-bay ... get one and "throw it out" a few hours after trash pickup so it is left out and the neighborhood think you have a Wii and thus are cool
02:11 <@wontonjoe> lolz uz makes us stewpid excitedz thinkinz they hve wii lolz
02:11 <@freakn> dang ... I should have bought empty wii boxes as christmas gifts
02:12 <@wontonjoe> god ill never type like that again, it was like a grammatical brain freeze
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02:12 <@freakn> HA, I hear Fight Club coming on TV
02:12 <@wontonjoe> i made the topic....again
02:13 <@wontonjoe> anyone ever listen to the brazillian band css?
02:14 <@someninjamaster> you mean kinda like i bought a empty xbox 360 box off ebay then drove past best buy holding it up yelling suckers about 6 hours before it came out
02:14 <@freakn> ha
02:14 <@freakn> I am surprised you were not shot at
02:15 <@someninjamaster> i wanted to shit in the box and then toss it into the crowd
02:15 <@freakn> http://xkcd.com/186/
02:16 <@someninjamaster> dude thats how the line was for wiis at the gamestop we were at
02:16 <@someninjamaster> we knew exactly how many that had avaliable for preorder
02:16 <@wontonjoe> i went to compusa the day before there black friday eve opening at 8:50 and hid the shit i wanted in printers and sat in my car in the heat till the line ended
02:17 <@someninjamaster> haha
02:17 <@wontonjoe> they looked at me funny whe i started pulling shit from the printer bays
02:18 <@wontonjoe> the ironic part is most things i hid, didnt sell out
02:18 <@freakn> ha
02:19 <@freakn> If it wasn't for me doing exam things all that week prior ... I was gonna go with a friend and sit at midnight and get trashed in front of best buy till it opened at 5am, then take public transit back at 6
02:22 <@freakn> his goal in going was to buy a laptop, hold on to it for a week, then sell it on e-bay for a $75 profit
02:22 <@freakn> then buy another laptop with that money ... a laptop he wanted
02:23 <@freakn> it was dumb, I stayed home and went to sleep
02:23 <@Dagmar> Very dumb
02:24 <@Dagmar> Tehre's enough assholes listing Wii's on Craigslist that people wouldn't have a problem finding them if scalpers werne't buying them all up
02:24 <@someninjamaster> i think im going to buy an eee pc
02:25 <@Corydon76-dig> What's funnier is seeing scalpers left with things they don't want
02:25 <@freakn> Dagmar: I was thinking of making a small lamp out of LEDs that has a battery/batteries in the base with a relay thing for switchover in the event of a power failure.  A constant trickel thing would be the easiest, but when the LEDs are off the batteries will be topped off with much more current.  And ideas?
02:26 <@freakn> somenin: ya, that dude was going to wind up with an eee pc after his world domination scheme unfolded.
02:26 <@Dagmar> I think you need to OPEN A BOOK.
02:26 <@Dagmar> This isn't something you're going to be able to ask about on IRC unless YOU WANT TO START A FUCKING FIRE
02:26 <@Dagmar> Her'es an idea.  BUY A CHEAP UPS, AND PUT A LAMP ON IT.
02:27 <@freakn> thanks for the idea, I'll promtly ignore it
02:27 <@Dagmar> Enjoy burning to death
02:27 <@freakn> I'll get righ ton that
02:27 <@someninjamaster> damn
02:27 <@Dagmar> Trying to redneck your way through this will START A FIRE.
02:27 <@wontonjoe> EvilDagmar today?
02:27 <@someninjamaster> is it dagmars time of the month
02:27 <@Dagmar> I'm tired of IGNORANT PEOPLE'S STUPID SHIT.
02:27 <@freakn> ya, cause LEDs and a few AA's burns people to death
02:27  * wontonjoe runs and hides
02:27 <@Dagmar> CRACK A BOOK MOTHERFUCKER.
02:28 <@freakn> caps lock stuck?
02:28 <@someninjamaster> a book what is this 1995
02:28 <@wontonjoe> oh and on a side not, I am always tired of the constant barrage of peoples stupid shit i deal with on a daily basis whether it be customer, coworker, or boss
02:28 <@Dagmar> If you want to do this so bad, FUCKING PUT IN SOME EFFORT instead of expecting other people to TELL you what to do.
02:28 <@wontonjoe> not=note
02:28 <@freakn> I was asking for ideas, not for ranting lunatics on soap boxes
02:28 <@Dagmar> OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T SEE THE LITTLE LETTERS, SO WE'LL USE BIG ONES.
02:29 <@Dagmar> Why the fuck would you need "ideas" for something that is already a *solved problem*
02:29 <@freakn> because I want to build it, not buy it.
02:29 <@Dagmar> You were just looking to substitute the shit you were making up as you go along, with the shit someone else is likely to make up as they go along.
02:30 <@Dagmar> Stop being a stupid fucking redneck.
02:30 <@freakn> I was looking for ideas and guidence, I thought you might be useful for once.  I was wrong.
02:30 <@Dagmar> How to make a charging circuit is a solved problem.
02:30 <@Dagmar> You don't have to buy it.
02:30 <@Dagmar> All you have to do is go find a fucking book that explains the circuit, and READ IT.
02:30 <@Dagmar> Even a Google search would likely do.
02:31 <@Dagmar> Trying to make it up when you don't know shit about circuit design WILL FAIL.
02:31  * someninjamaster grabs some popcorn
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02:31 <@someninjamaster> that was constructive
02:31 <@Dagmar> Fuckers need to swim or get out of the gene pool
02:31 <@freakn> maturity
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02:32 <@freakn> wow, you are cool now
02:32 <@someninjamaster> wow i need to change the sound for kicks on here
02:33 <@someninjamaster> the one it has just about poped my eardrum
02:33 <@freakn> change it to a yelling woman on her rag
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02:33 <@wontonjoe> why in gods name would you want irc to have sound
02:33 <@Dagmar> If you have a problem with me being harsh about stupidity, THEN LEARN SOME SHIT.
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02:34 <@someninjamaster> wonton because i move around my room alot
02:34 <@freakn> I hurt your feelings?
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02:34 <@wontonjoe> ah ok
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02:34 <@wontonjoe> i just use shell screen and irssi
02:35 <@someninjamaster> freakn: lay off dagmar im getting bored with unbanning you
02:35 <@wontonjoe> so i started playing WoW
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02:35 <@someninjamaster> freakn: lay off dagmar im getting bored with unbanning you
02:35 <@wontonjoe> wow is so dumb, but i keep going back
02:36 <@wontonjoe> i fully beleive they do something to make it addictive even though its not very enjoyable
02:36 <@wontonjoe> ill get tired of it again in a day or two
02:39 <@Dagmar> It's because you can go in there and screw around and see some pretty graphics
02:39 <@someninjamaster> i played everquest at a friends house and before i knew it i was playing 16 hours straight
02:39 <@someninjamaster> so i decided to nip that addiction in the bud
02:39 <@wontonjoe> pretty? good god man, ive played 8 bit nintendo games with better graphics its all squared off its awful, that cant be it
02:39 <@Dagmar> That would be because they've got "one more quick thing" you can do, oevr and over
02:41 <@wontonjoe> everquest and wow having played at least one of them are the bane of society in my opinion, they are a good /dev/null/ for societies unwanted shitheads however
02:41 <@wontonjoe> we should teach criminals to play wow, hell theres not much teach to it
02:41 <@Dagmar> Nah
02:42 <@someninjamaster> that would get their minds off escapeing
02:42 <@Dagmar> Blizzard actually figured out how to avoid that trap
02:42 <@Dagmar> Once you hit 70 there's about 10 things you can do on a daily basis, and they don't take two hours
02:42 <@buu> Wow graphics are really well done.
02:42 <@Dagmar> ...other than battlegrounds stuff, of course.
02:42 <@buu> Dagmar: Well, the hook at 70 is when you get involved with other people.
02:42 <@Dagmar> buu: Technically, you're supposed to get involved with other people *before* that point
02:42 <@buu> Eh, not worth it.
02:42 <@Dagmar> It's just *possible* to solo
02:43 <@Dagmar> it's faster to group.
02:43 <@buu> Not when you factor in waiting on other people!
02:43 <@Dagmar> ABout half the quests are headhunter quests
02:43 <@Dagmar> Five people can mow down say, 20 snow orcs, much faster than one.
02:43 <@buu> But I mean, serious, regular involvement.
02:43 <@buu> Like organized.
02:43 <@buu> Arenas, raiding, etc.
02:43 <@Dagmar> There's no waiting involved in that
02:43 <@buu> Er, what?
02:44 <@Dagmar> You check yer guild board to find out when it is, and you show up or you don't.
02:44 <@buu> I meant as opposed to grouping before 70
02:44 <+coil> FQDFASDGFDFHGH
02:44 <@Dagmar> I think maybe you're getting confused with those guilds from EverQuest with ludicrous requirements because they had to have those requirements to even get through the stupid dungeons
02:44 <@wontonjoe> i went to fight im a level 13 orc i was 10 then, they told me to not come back till i was at least level 17
02:45 <@buu> Dagmar: Well, Imean the idea of 24 other people waiting on me to complete some objective is much more .. compelling.. than the thought that "Gee I need to go level up leatherworking"
02:45 <@Dagmar> No guild shoudl be allowed to dictate their people play 4 hours a day and 16 on weekends
02:45 <@Dagmar> That's just fucked up
02:45 <@buu> Uh
02:45 <@buu> Yes, how dare people choose to participate in an activity.
02:45 <@buu> How dare those guilds FORCE them to show up at KNIFEPOINT.
02:46 <@wontonjoe> god people, its just a game, zug zug
02:46 <@Dagmar> No, I mean dictating that a human who is in theory maintaining a life and relationships spend more than half their non-work hours every day of the week playing is just sick.
02:46 <@buu> I mean, I'm going to be spending most of that time internetting or perhaps even playing wow, I'd generally rather spend it raiding than not.
02:46 <@Dagmar> There were *several* "uber" guilds in EQ that had even heavier requirements.
02:46 <@buu> I only raid like 9-12 hours a week though at most.
02:47 <@Dagmar> I mean seriously, a guild that reuqired you play more than hour hours a day, every day
02:47 <@buu> So?
02:47 <@buu> If I didn't want to play that much.. I wouldn't join their guild?
02:47 <@buu> I don't see the issue here.
02:47 <@Dagmar> See, normally, when you go and do something for 8 hours a day every day, people pay you money for it
02:47 <@buu> Uh, no, people pay me money for doing things I don't enjoy.
02:47 <@Dagmar> Actual, spendable money that you can use on hookers and blow
02:47 <@wontonjoe> one of my friends was pretty high up in eq, he NEVER leaves the house after work, and this fucker has a wife and kid, i go over to hang out, or i did, we would have planned to go somewhere, but it turned into....Right after this raid, he neglected to say it would be 4+ hours
02:47 <@Dagmar> You didn't play much EQ at the high end then
02:48 <@Dagmar> Combat turned into stupid shit.
02:48 <@someninjamaster> i have tried to limit myself to 1.5 hours a day playing games
02:48 <@buu> Dagmar: I never played EQ
02:48 <@Dagmar> Zero margin for error, but it was almost exclusively 1-2 warriors pounding on mob, 1-2 clerics healing the warriors non-stop, and everyone else was just an optional accessory
02:49 <@buu> Heh.
02:49 <@Dagmar> It wasn't _hard_ by any means.
02:49 <@wontonjoe> heh, on this note im off to play some wow, fuck im screwed....
02:49 <@Dagmar> It just required a very specific and extreme tactic to complete.
02:49 <@buu> Well, the zero margin is there in wow, but most people have something fairly useful to do.
02:49 <@buu> wontonjoe: HA HA.
02:49 <@buu> Dagmar: Well, it's sort of a natural evolution.
02:49 <@buu> You have to keep making it harder.
02:49 <@wontonjoe> oh and before i stroll off i am at work am getting paid and am playing wow
02:49 <@Dagmar> Nah ther'es LOTS of room for error in WoW by comparison
02:49 <@buu> Uh
02:49 <@buu> Have you done much raiding at the high end?
02:49 <@Dagmar> Mages are a crapton more durable
02:49 <@buu> Um.
02:49 <@buu> What?
02:50 <@Dagmar> High end bosses in EQ would squish a wizard in 2-3 hits
02:50 <@Dagmar> Even yard trash could do it
02:50 <@buu> Um. Yes?
02:50 <@buu> Mages in my guild are extremely lucky if they survive one hit
02:50 <@Dagmar> There's actually time to react and *save* the mages in WoW
02:50 <@buu> And the raid is usually fucked if the mage pulls.
02:51 <@buu> Mages are terrible dps though so they never pull.
02:51 <@Dagmar> We're not having any problems, but then we usually have someone who knows thrown weapons pulling
02:51 <@buu> NOT A PROBLEM.
02:51 <@buu> But really, how far are you?
02:51 <@Dagmar> 70
02:51 <@buu> Huh?
02:51 <@Dagmar> Working on getting Kara keyed
02:51 <@buu> ER, so, you haven't actually raided?
02:51 <@Dagmar> I have
02:51 <@buu> But you aren't kara keyed?
02:51 <@Dagmar> We just did some Caverns of Time shit the other day
02:52 <@buu> Raiding is anything with 10 or more people.
02:52 <@Dagmar> Yes.
02:52 <@buu> Although 10 is debatable, it usually means 25 mans.
02:53 <@Dagmar> Perhaps I view this differently beccause I'm playing the "aggro management" class
02:53 <@buu> So let me put it a different way, what is the highest/hardest/last raid boss you've killed?
02:53 <@Dagmar> I've no idea
02:54 <@Dagmar> No one ever really fucking stops to explain WTF we're doing in these places
02:54 <@buu> Haha
02:54 <@buu> But, you've done kara right?
02:54 <@buu> Like killed prince malchezar?
02:54 <@Dagmar> I've shoulder surfed someone on that
02:54 <@Dagmar> What do you think "Working on getting Kara keyed" means
02:55 <@Dagmar> Look, I know where you're headed with this and you can just drop the shit
02:55 <@buu> Sorry
02:55 <@buu> YOU GOT ME EXCITED.
02:55 <@Dagmar> These mechanics don't change all that damn much
02:55 <@buu> Anyway, let's not argue, high end raiding in wow has very little room for fuck ups =]
02:55 <@Dagmar> THe mobs that are taking down mages in one hit are *meant, specifically* to do that
02:55 <@Dagmar> Blizzard definitely writes their own rules on the backend for boss mobs
02:56 <@buu> Huh?
02:56 <@Dagmar> These mobs just aren't hitting so hard the mages die, they're programmed to just kill.
02:56 <@buu> Er, no they arne't.
02:56 <@Dagmar> Blizzards bosses cheat, dude.
02:56 <@buu> The bosses take down anything that isn't a MT do it to every class.. that doesn't have 20k armor.
02:56 <@buu> Um. No?
02:56 <@Dagmar> Um, eys.
02:56 <@buu> It's pretty simple math.
02:56 <@buu> He has 20k armor and gets hit for 4k
02:57 <@buu> I have 2k armor and get hit for 12k
02:57 <@buu> Where's the cheating?
02:57 <@Dagmar> Jesus, where do we start?
02:57 <@Dagmar> That mine in Westfall is a good example.
02:57 <@Dagmar> The third from last boss in there, the Tauren.
02:58 <@Dagmar> He's just about entirely scripted.
02:58 <@buu> Deadmines?
02:58 <@Dagmar> I can go in there, and have beefy-red-mode on and STILL get stunned
02:58 <@buu> Um. Ok.
02:58 <@Dagmar> FOr that matter, he usually dies the MOMENT that stun is over because of all I've piled onto him
02:59 <@Dagmar> beefy-red-mode == "whatever the fuck mages my pet and me both enraged, and _unstoppable_
02:59 <@Dagmar> No fear, no MC, none of that
02:59 <@buu> Ok, yes, boss mobs don't play by exactly the same rules.
02:59 <@buu> They can stun you.
02:59 <@buu> You can go invulnerable to them.
02:59 <@buu> Er, *can't*
02:59 <@buu> They're higher level than you are.
02:59 <@buu> But they don't have some magic ability to kill .. just mages.. or something?
03:00 <@buu> I dunno, what the hell are you arguing for?
03:00 <@Dagmar> Cuz WoW is a lot more flexible than EQ in what you can do
03:00 <@Dagmar> I couldn't stand raiding in EQ
03:00 <@buu> Heh.
03:00 <@Dagmar> What I've been doing in WoW so far has been markedly more interesting
03:00 <@buu> Well, good.
03:00 <@Dagmar> Something goes after the cleric, I can get away with taking it off htem
03:01 <@buu> 5 mans are flexible yes =]
03:01 <@buu> Certainly not argue that.
03:01 <@Dagmar> ...without someone screaming at me that the only person who should do that is the lead tank.
03:01 <@buu> 10 mans are slightly more so.
03:01 <@buu> 25 mans mean it will oneshot you
03:01 <@buu> Sorry, I meant less so.
03:01 <@Dagmar> Not if I'm hiding behind shit.  ;)
03:02 <@Dagmar> I gotta tab target most of the time because I shoot from max range
03:02 <@buu> Er, but then you're just building more aggro that the tank will have to overcome to get it off you.
03:02 <@Dagmar> I do need to find out something that will maybe let me see more easily who the mob is looking at
03:03 <@buu> Turn on target of target
03:03 <@buu> It's a blizzard option
03:03 <@Dagmar> MORE easiliy
03:03 <@Dagmar> Like, I need that motherfucker to GLOW
03:03 <@buu> Heh.
03:03 <@Dagmar> <-- hunter
03:03 <@buu> Why?
03:03 <@Dagmar> Aggro management
03:04 <@Dagmar> Feign death == get out of butt whooping free card
03:04 <@Dagmar> I can't remember the name of the other two powerful tricks
03:04 <@buu> You use omen right?
03:04 <@Dagmar> One we share with rouges, that I htink of as "blue swooshie" which I can use to basically, drop right to the bottom of the aggro list.
03:05 <@Dagmar> ...and there's a new one at 70 that lets us actually BLAME SOMEONE ELSE for what we did
03:05 <@Dagmar> :)
03:06 <@buu> Misdirect
03:06 <@buu> But if you don't use omen, you really should.
03:06 <@Dagmar> Hunter DPS isn't really all that spectacular, but it's damn hard to stop it
03:06 <@buu> Well..
03:06 <@buu> A hunter leads dps in my raids half the time =]
03:06 <@Dagmar> Oh the script
03:06 <@buu> Hunters are pretty awesome.
03:06 <@Dagmar> Probably they're up there because like I said, it's hard to stop it
03:07 <@Dagmar> My guild leader isn't all that used to hunters
03:07 <+coil> nerd wowo
03:07 <@Dagmar> He's finally getting the hint that if he wants to blue square something, I may or may not trap it
03:07 <@buu> Heh.
03:07 <@Dagmar> ...but I can damn well keep it running in circles for more than enough time
03:08 <@Dagmar> ...or have the pet tank it and then drag it into range of the taunts, which is what I usually do when I can't get a trap to stick
03:08 <@buu> Hunters are pretty versatile.
03:10 <+coil> wow nerd
03:10 <@buu> ZOMG NERDS
03:10 <@buu> WHERE?
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03:10 <@Dagmar> lol
03:10 <@buu> Dagmar: Get Omen!
03:10 <@ShadowHntr> mornin Dagmar
03:13 <@Dagmar> morning
03:13 <@ShadowHntr> damn taht was a rude awakening
03:13 <@ShadowHntr> got up at 2:45am to see my step-brother off on the drive to the airport
03:14 <@ShadowHntr> he's got a 6am flight to maine
03:14 <+coil> ShadowHntr: boo hoo
03:14 <@ShadowHntr> and he's flying UM
03:14 <+coil> delta
03:14 <@ShadowHntr> coil: fuck off, i tried to sleep before. had i stayed up that wouldn't have been a problem.
03:14 <@ShadowHntr> southwest
03:14 <@freakn> Can't you just say goodbye the night before?
03:15 <@ShadowHntr> i could, but i wanted to see him off, that such a big deal?
03:15 <@freakn> nah, but waking up mid sleep can be painful
03:15 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't get to see my brother off when i was in the hospital getting my gallbladder removed in august. :P
03:15 <+coil> jerk him off then go back to sleep
03:15 <@freakn> My mom got that yanked out two days ago
03:16  * ShadowHntr calls the FBI child porn unit on coil :P
03:16 <@freakn> the surgery didn't go so well
03:16  * coil goes to sleep
03:16 <@ShadowHntr> freakn: she alright?
03:16 <+coil> 6 feet under
03:17 <@freakn> no, this was "decided" to be done after 3 weeks of hospitalized puking.  And the shitty surgeon poked a hole in her intestine and they had to cut a huge hole in her to wash her all out and cut 2 inches of piping out
03:17 <@freakn> the 2 inch removal surgery was this afternoon.  My dad is flipping his lid.
03:17 <@ShadowHntr> that sucks.
03:18 <@ShadowHntr> hope she'll be alright.
03:18 <@freakn> at least she stoped puking
03:18 <@Dagmar> Sepsis?
03:18 <@Dagmar> Fuck
03:18 <@freakn> my gal bladder has been hurting since july.  It runs in the family.  (And I could eat a little better)
03:18 <@Dagmar> I hope you get a really nasty lawyer
03:19 <@Dagmar> There's no fucking way they should have waited three weeks on that
03:19 <@freakn> top it all off I am stuck in texas in their house alone.  Merry christmas.
03:19 <@Dagmar> The moemnt they realized the intestine was leaking she shoudl have been opened back up so they could stitch that and rinse her out
03:19 <@freakn> Eh, I should bump the plane ticket back a week, so lets make it a happy new year too.
03:20 <@Dagmar> freakn: You have high speed internet, so at least you can download lots of christmas-themed porno
03:21 <@ShadowHntr> i must be the only one here that doesn't think of porn 24/7. :P
03:21 <@freakn> Did you get to keep your gal bladder ... or they cut it up?
03:22 <@Dagmar> It jsut tells you
03:22 <@Dagmar> wrong chn
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09:51 < ware> idlemon> I-MOD walked face-first into a tree. This terrible calamity has slowed them 0 days, 00:54:16 from level 38.
09:52 < ware> rofl
09:52 < ware> morning pansys
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10:09 < ware> http://nashville.craigslist.org/ele/517727094.html
10:09 < ware> good deal?
10:13 <@Dagmar> Have you looked up what they cost new?
10:13 <@Dagmar> "It has a few minor scratches." <-- if they're on the display because he hasn't the sense to have put a screen protector on it from day one, then it's a no-go.
10:13 <@SkyDog_> morning all.
10:14 <@dc0de> morning...
10:14 <@dc0de> woof
10:14 < ware> Dagmar: i think i could get a treo cheaper with a plan
10:15 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
10:15 < ware> my cingular contract is up and i want a smart phone i can use alot with a data plan
10:15 <@Dagmar> ware: With a plan, probably so
10:15 < ware> m000!
10:15 < ware> whats up SkyDeezy
10:16 <@SkyDog_> Sitting on the couch with the Gregster
10:16 <@SkyDog_> How about you?
10:16 < ware> at the rents house.
10:16 <@SkyDog_> Cool.
10:16 < ware> little shit just walked by and punched me in the side lol
10:16 < ware> for no reason!
10:17 <@SkyDog_> hit him back. :)
10:17 < ware> we were lanpartyin last night on WoW/Quake/Unreal Tournament
10:17 <@SkyDog_> Nice.
10:17 <@dc0de> sitting watching swordfish.
10:18 <@SkyDog_> We went to see 'National Treasure'.
10:18 <@dc0de> love those big ass ball bearing anti-personnel explosive packs
10:18 <@dc0de> SkyDog_ how was national treasure?
10:18 < ware> haha now theyre dancin to Daft Punk :D
10:19 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: Pretty good, actually.
10:19 <@dc0de> cool
10:19 < ware> i heard the I Am Legend one was good
10:19 <@Dagmar> Fuck that
10:19 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, I wanna see that one too. greg had already seen it.
10:19 <@Dagmar> They fucked up the ending.
10:19 <@Dagmar> Will Smith is *not* supposed to save the world.
10:20 <@Dagmar> That's kinda the whole point of the damn story.
10:20 <@Dagmar> Read the book, or at least see "The Last Man In The World" (with Vincent Price!) first
10:20 <@Dagmar> The book is pretty short, actually
10:21 < ware> i wanna see Enchanted too :P
10:21 < ware> rotten said it was great
10:23 <@Dagmar> I've heard that too
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10:26 < ware> hey dag did you get the wiimote covers / wrist straps from nintendo?  i thought they had a recall for em or something
10:26 <@Dagmar> I could, but I'm not a moron so I don't need a safety helmet for my wiimote
10:26 <@Dagmar> Frankly, I'm at a loss for how people can manage to throw the damn things
10:27 <@Dagmar> It's _easiest_ when you keep a firm grip and only let your trigger finger fall off the button and hold the hting with your other four
10:31 < ware> yeah, mom asked me to get em cause of the lil boya
10:31 < ware> boys*
10:33 <@Dagmar> Not a bad idea
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11:08 < ware> Dagmar: http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/jacket/jacketrequest.jsp
11:13 <@Dagmar> Dude, I *know*
11:13 <@Dagmar> In case you didn't know, the Wii is basically a little internet terminal.
11:14 <@Dagmar> It polls periodically for "Wii Mail" which can and does include updates from Nintendo, as well as the occasional new bulletin, and in the case of the jackets, complete details on how to get them for free.
11:14 <@Dagmar> The slot that the disc goes into actually flashes blue to let you know you have Wii Mail
11:14 <@Dagmar> it's actually _really_ a slick device
11:15 <@Dagmar> With the browser and news ticker, it's a damn awesome internet terminal for people
11:16 < ware> ahh
11:16 < ware> well see i aint be knowin !
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13:00 <@ladymerlin> whee
13:01 < ware> wee'
13:01 < ware> whats up lm
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14:31 <@Catonic> what up peeps?
14:34 <@ladymerlin> heya Catonic
14:38 <@Catonic> ladymerlin: I'm starting to think my friends down here suck
14:38 <@Catonic> none of them want to up and drive to florida for new years.
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15:36 <@Psyiode> Im flying to LA for new years
15:36 <@sdodson> YAY!
15:36 <@Psyiode> its just as cheap and a lot quicker than driving
15:37 <@Catonic> rental cars.
15:37 <@Catonic> i hate rental cars.
15:37 <@Catonic> mostly because I won't pay for the ones I like.
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15:37 <@Psyiode> yeah
15:38 <@sdodson> The make rental police cars?
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15:50 <@dasunt> Fucking sloppy reporting:
15:50 <@dasunt> http://uk.news.yahoo.com/wenn/20071223/ten-smith-hitler-was-a-good-person-c60bd6d_1.html
15:51 <@dasunt> Note how the headline just screams "click on me so yahoo can whore out another ad hit"
15:57 <@dc0de> ~minilink
15:57 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/yahoo.com/CgNVI.html
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16:01 <@dc0de> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1943255/posts
16:02 <@dc0de> brb.
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16:06 <@dc0de> some of these are hilarious
16:07 <@dasunt> I don't think people read the entire article.
16:07 <@dasunt> 'Cause all I can tell is that Will Smith believes that Hitler didn't consider himself as a force for evil.
16:08 <@dc0de> neither does any other evil fucktard.
16:09 <@freakn> seperated from his genocide, hitler pulled a country out of a depression to turn it into a military powerhouse.
16:09 <@dasunt> dc0de: Yep.  But that seems to confuse people.
16:09 <@freakn> definatly not a guy that should be praised or glorrified, but demonizing everything he did is a little silly
16:09 <@dasunt> Very few people think of themselves as evil.
16:09 <@dc0de> but the issue is more of the "globalization and humanization" shit that scientology teaches.
16:10 <@dasunt> AFAIK, Smith isn't a scientologist.
16:10 <@freakn> will smith = scientologist?
16:10 <@freakn> o
16:11 <@dc0de> ~google for Will Smith scientology
16:11 <+MxZBot> Google says Will Smith scientology is at http://www.celebitchy.com/7648/will_smith_says_scientology_teachings_are_98_identical_to_bible/ or http://www.huffingtonpost.com/_73469.html or http://www.observer.com/2007/will-smith-scientology-bible-almost-identical
16:11 <@dc0de> no, but he doesn't really see a difference
16:11 <@freakn> I like that first url path
16:12 <@dasunt> dc0de: Have you read the bible?
16:12 <@dasunt> Specifically, the old testament?
16:13 <@dc0de> dasunt, several times and several variations
16:13 <@freakn> could scientology just be a sci-fi writers rework of christianity?
16:13 <@dasunt> It has some great things in it, like how if you are a kid, you shouldn't tease God's prophet for balding.  'Cause God isn't above sending bears to maul you apart.
16:15 <@dasunt> Oh, and this one.
16:15 <@dasunt> (And yes, I'm picking the flamebait link):
16:15 <@dasunt> http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/when_to_stone_your_whole_family/dt13_06-08.html
16:15 <@dasunt> ~minilink
16:15 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/thebricktestament.com/sgdLQ.html
16:15 <@freakn> hm
16:16 <@freakn> I think the holy trinity clause allows christianity to fit into that passage
16:18 <@dasunt> freakn: http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/false_prophets/dt13_01.html
16:18 <@dasunt> ~minilink
16:18 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/thebricktestament.com/Ucfjb.html
16:18 <@freakn> they published books of the brick testament
16:19 <@dasunt> I know.
16:19 <@dasunt> I kind of want a copy.
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16:20 <@freakn> I've never read these passages about the menstral cycle before
16:21 <@dasunt> I also like this one, just for the lego figures.
16:21 <@dasunt> http://www.thebricktestament.com/the_law/racial%20tolerance/dt23_03a.html
16:21 <@dasunt> ~minilink
16:21 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/thebricktestament.com/i3X6p.html
16:21 <@dasunt> FUTUREPOLICE!
16:22 <@freakn> ya, the police
16:22 <@dasunt> Guarding the Cathedral...
16:24 <@freakn> I saw i saw
16:24 <@freakn> Deuteronomy was not covered in my bible school as a kid.  I kinda see why.
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16:26 <@freakn> I like the pile of foreskins ... http://www.thebricktestament.com/joshua/second_circumcision/jos05_04.html
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> i didn't need to hear that.
16:27 <@freakn> bigger here http://www.thebricktestament.com/joshua/second_circumcision/jos05_07.html
16:28 <@ShadowHntr> brb
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16:29 <@freakn> time to hunt down a food court, bbl
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16:45 <@ShadowHntr> sup ninjamaster
16:45 <@ShadowHntr> merry xmas
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17:01 <@someninjamaster> evening all
17:01 <@ShadowHntr> merry xmas
17:02 <@someninjamaster> i celebrate kwanza bitch
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> well happy kwanza too
17:02 <@someninjamaster> ;)
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> hehehehe
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> cheers mate
17:02 <@someninjamaster> cheers
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> anything special planned for the holidays?
17:02 <@someninjamaster> lots off cooking
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> awesome
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> love cooking
17:02 <@someninjamaster> i have a turkey in the smoker
17:02 <@ShadowHntr> o_0
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> i wanna try deep-fried turkey sometime
17:03 <@someninjamaster> what are your plans
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> dad and stepmom are in chattanooga
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> i'm in the boro on my own
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> they'll be back tomorrow or tuesday
17:03 <@someninjamaster> ah
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> just talked to my mom and her family in washington state
17:03 <@ShadowHntr> they're all doing fine
17:04 <@someninjamaster> i bet they are freezeing their balls off
17:04 <@ShadowHntr> watched Transformers
17:04 <@ShadowHntr> nah they're fine
17:04 <@ShadowHntr> now i get to plan out what i'm gonna buy myself AFTER christmas
17:04 <@ShadowHntr> cause i'll have student loan money coming in two weeks
17:05 <@someninjamaster> im buying an eee pc
17:05 <@SkyDog_> After you pay everyone back.
17:05 <@SkyDog_> In fact, I think you need to pay a certain someone back today.
17:05 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: yeap, and merlin's first on the list.
17:05 <@ShadowHntr> let's see
17:05 <@SkyDog_> when?
17:05  * ShadowHntr pulls up a calendar
17:05 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: january 2600 mtg
17:06 <@someninjamaster> SkyDog_: do you need an acess power unit for your rfid reader
17:06 <@ShadowHntr> yeah, i'll make that date.
17:06 <@SkyDog_> You got paid on friday, no?
17:06 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_: not near enough.
17:06 <@ShadowHntr> :/
17:06 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Which part?
17:06 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: I didn't ask that.
17:06 <@SkyDog_> You have owed ladyM for quite a whilel.
17:06 <@SkyDog_> you pay her back before you pay bills.
17:06 <@someninjamaster> http://cgi.ebay.com/DIY-Door-Access-Control-Power-Supply-12V-5A-w-UPS-NEW_W0QQitemZ150175663927QQihZ005QQcategoryZ58288QQcmdZViewItem
17:06 <@ShadowHntr> o_0
17:07 <@ShadowHntr> sounds like fun.
17:12 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: If you have a space, cool.
17:13 <@someninjamaster> i bought that one and ended up buying the next model up that had a transformer built in
17:14 <@someninjamaster> for my office
17:14 <@SkyDog_> Ah, cool.
17:14 <@SkyDog_> I went by the consortium space and showed it to LadyM.
17:14 <@SkyDog_> I may see about spending some time over the break working on it.
17:15 <@someninjamaster> im semi stalled on my office untill the ac guys show up
17:15 <@someninjamaster> theres some wireing that needs to be wraped up and a little drywall work
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17:15 <@SkyDog_> awesome man.
17:15 <@SkyDog_> glad that things are coming along.
17:16 <@someninjamaster> thanks
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17:31 <@Dolemite> h0 h0 h0ez!
17:32 < ware> whutup
17:33 <@Dolemite> Got the draft tower kit for my kegerator for Christmas
17:33 <@Dolemite> yay
17:33 <@Dolemite> now I have to pick a day to drill a hole in the fridge and install it
17:33 <@SkyDog_> woohoo!
17:33 <@Dolemite> but for now, I'm sipping on pint #3 poured while opening the door
17:33 <@Dolemite> Well, 3 since the Titans game started. :)
17:34 <@Dolemite> I have a wife trying to get over the flu, and a child that looks like he's coming down with it.
17:34 <@Dolemite> I may as well have a few.
17:36 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : The HC needs this...
17:36 <@Dolemite> http://nashville.craigslist.org/ele/499505233.html
17:36 < ware> haha
17:37 <@Dolemite> So anyway, it looks like after the dinner on Saturday we'll be high tailing it down to visit the in-laws, since we obviously couldn't go today with sick 'uns here.
17:37 <@Dolemite> ok, back to the football game
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18:01 <@Dolemite> Yay, Titans win!
18:03 < ware> ^5
18:16 < ware> http://www.warsow.net/?page=download
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19:39 <@sasquatc4> does anyone actually play warsow? i installed it a while back and there wasnt a single person on there
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19:53 <@freakn> never even heard of it
20:02 < ware> sasquatc4: i got on earlier today and there were around 50 ppl across the servers
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21:03 <@Scotchick> oops click happy on the big X
21:04 <@brimstone> i do love the big X
21:04 <@dc0de> http://flickr.com/photos/doctorow/40120338/in/set-72157601506708601/
21:04 <@dc0de> that's purrfect
21:05 <@dc0de> I'm about to sign off and start driving to Florida.... so ...
21:05 <@brimstone> on purpose?
21:05 <@dc0de> Everyone have a Very Merry Christmas if I'm not online before then
21:05 <@dc0de> brimstone, yeah, we're meeting my outlaws
21:05 <@dc0de> for xmas at the beach
21:06 <@Shadow_Phone> meow
21:07 <@Shadow_Phone> tis cold, damn scottish, keeping home so cold
21:07 <@Scotchick> remember killing the inlaws is still illegal out of state
21:07 <@dc0de> only if you get caught
21:07 <@Scotchick> true
21:07 < Feltenix> that's trure for most things though
21:08 <@dc0de> I watch csi:miami, they get all the $$ for crime in miami... the rest of the state is poor
21:08 <@Scotchick> shadow_ph - think of it this way the money either goes to Ga gas company or to you - you decide
21:08 <@Shadow_Phone> hmm, either i turn intpo a human iceberg, or gas company earns a little extra change
21:08 <@Shadow_Phone> hmmmm
21:08 <@Scotchick> well iceberg will be quieter
21:08 <@Shadow_Phone> u little arse
21:09 <@Scotchick> yep
21:09 <@Scotchick> dc0de - happy chrimbo and all that
21:10 <@dc0de> thanks
21:10 <@dc0de> same to you.
21:10 <@dc0de> I'm wearing my FSM shirt down to Florida...
21:10 <@dc0de> just to piss off the Catholics that I married into
21:11 < ware> outlawS?
21:13 <@dc0de> outlaws == inlaws that you don't get along with.
21:13 < ware> gotvha
21:13 < ware> gotcha*
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21:14 <@dc0de> I like the comment on this picture...
21:14 <@dc0de> http://flickr.com/photos/doctorow/544915009/in/set-72157601506708601/
21:15 <@dc0de> "If a prius looked like that, I'd buy one."
21:16 <+coil> hi anyone around
21:16 <@dc0de> hey coil
21:16 < ware> hai no
21:16 <+coil> http://i8.tinypic.com/82v17ag.jpg <- what's the deal with the nitrogen gas
21:17 <@dc0de> where was that taken?
21:17 <+coil> like really close to my work
21:17 <+coil> just on the side of the road
21:19 < ware> shoot it
21:19 < ware> for teh lulz
21:19 <+coil> no stuf ware
21:19 < ware> no u
21:24 <@dc0de> http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN1959512020071222?sp=true
21:24 <@dc0de> that's a fucked up 2007 list.
21:25 < ware> rofl
21:25 < ware> ive said that quite a bit since then
21:26 <@dc0de> oh fuck... you think that Will Smith and Hitler was a bad line... read this
21:26 <@dc0de> http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSARM15521720071221
21:26 <@dc0de> Dali Lama "is not a call girl"
21:28 <@brimstone> verizon is gsm right?
21:28 <+coil> no
21:28 <@freakn> ah, the ability to buy beer on a Sunday
21:28 <@brimstone> it's singular, crap
21:28 <+coil> cdma
21:28 <@brimstone> thanks coil
21:29 <+coil> was that scacastic?
21:29 <+coil> sarcastic
21:29 <@brimstone> nope
21:29 <+coil> yay i helped a friend!
21:32 <@dasunt> You didn't send me good liquor.
21:33 <@freakn> I wonder if any state has a scratch off lottery ticket that is flat out "you win X" or "you lose", no matching or counting games
21:34 <@dc0de> Hehe, the new "Maria Carey" perfume ad on TV, "Purchase $62.50 in product and receive this new tote bag.".
21:34 <@dc0de> why $62.50? is that before or after tax?
21:34 <@sasquatc4> alot of perfumes/colognes are always odd numbers like that
21:35 < ware> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Arranged_century_egg_on_a_plate.jpg
21:36 <@freakn> people eat that?
21:36 <@dc0de> uuuh, not i.
21:38 <@dasunt> Not I.
21:38 <@freakn> an egg preserved in alkaline clay to keep it from spoiling ...
21:38 <@dasunt> If it looks like that, I'm considering it spoiled.
21:38 <@dc0de> dasunt, we agree
21:38 <@dc0de> scary
21:41 <@dasunt> dc0de: You are more like me than you can even imagine.
21:41 <@dc0de> or the other way around
21:42 <@dasunt> Eeeeek!
21:45 <@dc0de> coil, ping
21:45 <+coil> dc0de: pogn
21:46 <@dc0de> did you see myminicity lately?
21:46 <@dc0de> tor is my friend.... :)
21:46 <@brimstone> :P
21:46 <@brimstone> i got 3 machines crunching on it too dc0de
21:46 <+coil> brimstone: i forgot the link to your scripts for that
21:46 <@dc0de> heh.
21:46 <@dc0de> nice
21:47 <+coil> aww, were not number one yet
21:47 <@dc0de> no, but we're climbing
21:47 <@brimstone> dc0de, you just have a single wget line in a script right?
21:48 <@dc0de> brimstone, yeah, but I'm using the following:
21:48 <+coil> dc0de: i like your last comment on the news
21:48 <@dc0de> 'torrify wget http://se2600.myminicity.com/tra'
21:48 <@brimstone> that doesn't work does it?
21:48 <@dc0de> I have six different script for every link
21:48 <@brimstone> pretty sure it doesn't
21:48 <@dc0de> it works fine
21:49 <@dc0de> drop to a command line in linux and try it
21:49 <@brimstone> i did a while back
21:50 <@brimstone> i had to use something like torify wget "http://$CITY.myminicity.com/$RES" --referer="http://$CITY.myminicity.com/$RES" --header="Cookie: X-MV-Referer=;X-Ref-Ok=1"
21:50 <@dc0de> I just got a 534 byte response
21:50 <@dc0de> doh
21:50 <@brimstone> yeah, the js script to jump to another page
21:51 <@dc0de> shit.
21:51 <@dc0de> doesn't work.
21:51 <@dc0de> ok.
21:51 <@dc0de> so how are we doing it now?
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22:01 <@dc0de> well, I'm about to sign off... gotta hit the road.
22:01 <@dc0de> l8r all
22:01 <@dc0de> have a great Xmas!
22:02 <@brimstone> see ya!
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22:08 <@dasunt> G'bye.
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22:29 <@deoptima> evening
22:29 <@brimstone> hi
22:30 <@deoptima> anyone use linux-vserver?
22:35 <@brimstone> i've thought about it a few times
22:36 <@deoptima> i have it set up and it is awsome but i want to set up some sort of name based routing so i can ssh into both using port 22
22:38 <@brimstone> does it use a bridge or is it nat like?
22:39 <@brimstone> vserver is like a backgrounded chroot, not like a xen or vmware virtual machine right?
22:40 <@deoptima> nat
22:40 <@deoptima> yea
22:40 <@brimstone> then you can't have two listening on the same port then right?
22:41 <@deoptima> right, but it has its own nat'd IP address
22:42 <@deoptima> basically im wanting to set up a basic shell server.. a chroot jail would be a TON easier but cant compile stuff in them
22:42 <+coil> hi dc0de-away
23:15 <@dasunt> deoptima: Isn't that the ...
23:15 <@dasunt> Ugh, what.
23:16 <@dasunt> My bad, thought you were talking about openvz.
23:17 <@deoptima> openvz is installed as well i need one to get it working its driving me f'n nuts
23:23  * someninjamaster yawns
23:24 <@brimstone> Prior to DRBD 8, what is now the --overwrite-data-of-peer option used to be --do-what-I-say. We changed the option because we found out that people mistakenly believed --do-what-I-say could be used to force any drbdadm command, regardless of its implications.
23:24 <@brimstone> lol
23:24 <@brimstone> i love opensource
23:30 <@sasquatc4> sweet, 6in of fresh snow christmas day
23:32 <@deoptima> where?
23:32 <@sasquatc4> vail
23:32 <@sasquatc4> so i know where im goin
23:34 <@deoptima> lol
23:38 <@brimstone> deoptima, have you used clustered file systems?
23:40 <@deoptima> nope
23:40 <@deoptima> i know im worthless lol
23:40 <@brimstone> heh
23:41 <@deoptima> i found this http://oldwiki.linux-vserver.org/HowtoHostAuth but the links require a password lmao
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23:59 <@brimstone> wasn't me
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