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00:06 <@Catonic> Im lonely. Hold me.
00:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Uhhhhhhh
00:08 <@Catonic> I think corydon passed out from sexual exasperation.
00:08 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm about to pass out from exhaustion, actually
00:11 <@dc0de> I'm off to bed...
00:16 <@Catonic> so sleep
00:21 <@Catonic> i really need to fix what i
00:21 <@Catonic> ve fucked in my routing
00:22 <@Catonic> I had indian tonight
00:22 <@Catonic> it was great. but my lips are burning.
00:30 <@dasunt> Catonic: They prefer to be called "Native Americans"
00:34 <@Catonic> oopisi
00:37 <@Catonic> http://www.sugargirlsandseamen.com/
00:37 <@dasunt> I don't think I'll click that.
00:38 <@Catonic> sfw, mostly
00:39 <@Catonic> http://www.sugargirlsandseamen.com/2007/05/whats-deal-with-your-penis.html <- nsfw
00:52 <+coil> i always knew Catonic was gay
00:53 <+coil> there he goes looking at cocks again
01:01 <@Catonic> holy christ
01:01 <@Catonic> you need a *lot* of visual bandwidth to visualize a single 1Gb/s connection
01:01 <+coil> changing the subject
01:07 <@dasunt> Cool.
01:07  * dasunt modifies electronic circuits running at 110V and then plugs them back into household current.
01:08  * Catonic modifies household current and plugs it into electronics circuits running at 110V.
01:08 <+coil> no
01:08 <+coil> dasunt: i dont get it
01:08 <+coil> you mean dc to ac?
01:08 <@dasunt> coil: Nope, just a circuit that's running at 110V, ac.
01:09 <+coil> it didn't blow up yet?
01:17 <@dasunt> Why would it?
01:18 <@dasunt> The X10 modules inner circuitry is designed to run at household current.
01:19 <@dasunt> The AM466 appliance modules have a subcircuit that is designed to monitor when an appliance is manually turned on.
01:19 <@dasunt> It does this by providing some trickle current through the appliance.
01:20 <@dasunt> I'm using two AM466 modules to control my living room lamps, which are CFLs, and the trickle current ends up making the bulbs flicker when they are off.
01:20 <@dasunt> So I removed a diode in the circuit that provides trickle current, and the problem is solved.  :D
01:36 <@Catonic> night kids
03:48 <+coil> gtfo Catonic
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07:49 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0 h0 h0ez!
08:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Morning, Dol
08:08 <@Dolemite> howdy ho
08:09  * Corydon76-dig has got "Santa Has Lost A Ho" running through his head now.
08:09 <@Dolemite> I'm not familiar with that one
08:10  * Dolemite has his celtic Christmas music playing in the background
08:10 <@Corydon76-dig> "He used to do heidy-ho, Now he's only doing Heidi--Uh oh, Where'd the other ho go (Dunno!) Santa has lost a ho"
08:12 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.christmasjugband.com/uncorked.html SFW
08:22 <@baudburn> mornin
08:43 <@brimstone> ya know, there's just not enough power metal christmas music...
08:43 <@Dolemite> and that's a good thing
08:43 < ware> weeeee. christmas.
08:44 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch
08:47 <@SkyDog_> Morning all!
08:47  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
08:47 <@Dolemite> w00f
08:48 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
08:52 <@Dolemite> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltiY-BqvOIU
08:52 <@Dolemite> Best Christmas Song/Video of All Time
08:52 <@Dolemite> (Fairytale of New York)
08:53 <@Dolemite> At least, it's the best according to A Socialite's Life
08:54 <@dc0de> moring
08:54 <@dc0de> morning even
08:55 < ware> howdy howdy howdy
08:55 <@Dolemite> gosh you sure do smell all nice and flowery!
08:55 < ware> this tea i got is flowery
08:55 < ware> tazo stuff from krogers
08:56 < ware> "Passion: Herbal Infusion" A tantalizing deep red tea made from hibiscus flowers, exotic herbs and natural tropical flavors
08:56 < ware> mmmmmm. makes life worth living.
09:02 <@dc0de> ware you turning into a metrosexual/
09:02 <@dc0de> ?
09:02 < ware> what i cant enjoy some tea?
09:03 <@Dolemite> Sure you can, but you need to come to terms with your changing sexual preferences.
09:03 <@Dolemite> Just like Corydon occasionally swings to the other sid...  er, ok, he is still a freak, but anyway.  Where was I going with this?
09:04 <@dc0de> Dolemite add - its not just for breakfast anym... what? be right there.
09:05 <@SkyDog_> Enjoy some tea? Is that a euphemism for something?
09:05 <@dc0de> SkyDog_ I'm afraid to ask.
09:07 <@seeblind> morning everybody
09:08 <@ladymerlin> heya seeblind
09:08 <@SkyDog_> Morning@
09:08 <@seeblind> hey ohhh
09:09 <@dc0de> morning
09:09 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: check your pm?
09:10 <@seeblind> dc0de: morning, what is going on this am?
09:10 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: teabagging?
09:10 <@Corydon76-dig> ladymerlin: ping
09:10 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: That must be why I don't like tea.
09:11 <@ladymerlin> sup?
09:11 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: Yeah. Will change that in a few.
09:11 <@nachoguy> god damn I hate this week
09:11 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: cool.
09:11 <@Corydon76-dig> ladymerlin: you're welcome to drop by on your way home from work to get your hoodie
09:11 <@ladymerlin> sweet
09:12 <@brimstone> just in time for the holidays
09:12 < ware> omg ur just jealous i haz speshul tea
09:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, and if anybody wants an XL hoodie, they can buy from me for $50 apiece
09:13 <@dc0de> If anyone wants a 3XL Hoodie you can buy mine for $3,000
09:13 <@Dolemite> $50?
09:14 <@Dolemite> What kind of crack smoking idiot would pay $50 for a hooded sweatshirt?
09:14 <@SkyDog_> I have a one of a kinda PN shirt that has a coffee stain on it. worn by the vice pres. I'll start taking bids at $5,000.
09:14 <@SkyDog_> proceeds go to my pocket.
09:14 <@SkyDog_> screw the charities.
09:14 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, ware for one, assuming he doesn't cave into my demands
09:15 <@Dolemite> ware will let you teabag him for a hoodie
09:15 <@Dolemite> but only if you smell flowery
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09:15 <@Corydon76-dig> No, demands have changed.  I want timoguin to fuck him up the ass and to catch the encounter on tape
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09:16 <@dc0de> I have a DefCon 2007 Goon Tshirt with a questionable stain on it, with no DNA evidence left, worn by me, and stained by ??? for sale, bidding starts at $50K.
09:16 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the gift that keeps on giving
09:16 <@Dolemite> I'm sure both of those have happened, just not at the same time
09:16 <@Corydon76-dig> and in return, I'll give him a hoodie
09:31 < ware> rofl
09:31 < ware> no one is workin here at all
09:32 <@Dagmar> Today is the day that traditionally, everyone just looks up Christmas-themed porno at wotk.
09:32 <@Dagmar> s/wotk/work/;
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09:37 <@Shadow_Phone>  woot, santa doing reindeer
09:37 <@Shadow_Phone> always knew he was a kinky chubby holy man
09:37 <@Dolemite> that's not Santa, that's your father.
09:38 <@Shadow_Phone> im part reindeer?
09:38 <@brimstone> i wasn't gonna tell you till you were older
09:38 <@Shadow_Phone> ah
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09:48 <@SkyDog_> Banana Phone!
09:48 < ware> RING RING
09:48 < ware> "HAI2U!"
09:49 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qIJVgcS-ws&feature=related
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09:52 < ware> Dementia: Evilpig won
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09:54 <@Evilpig> she just couldn't take the fact that I won
09:58 <@brimstone> what did you win?
10:02 <@Corydon76-dig> A lonely Christmas again this year
10:08 < ware> :D
10:10 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
10:14 <@brimstone> lawl
10:15 <@Dagmar> o/~ "I-i-i-i-i-'ll get bo-o-o-o-ned for Chris-mas..." o/~
10:23 < ware> SkyDog_: ROFL @ LIST
10:23 <@Dolemite> which list?
10:24 < ware> http://members.shaw.ca/halflifestory/index.htm
10:24 < ware> hc
10:24 <@Dagmar> Weird.  I didn't think the plot in Half Life was all that complex.
10:24 <@Dolemite> I ain't got no email from it, and I'm on teh list :P
10:25 < ware> to	info@hackerconsortium.com,
10:25 < ware> date	Dec 21, 2007 10:07 AM
10:25  * Dolemite checks his spam quarantine
10:25 < ware> you may have him blocked lol pwnies
10:26 <@Dolemite> if it's from ware then it's probably tagged as spamx0r
10:26 <@ladymerlin> WOOOHHHH
10:26 <@Dolemite> nope, not in quarantine, either
10:26 <@ladymerlin> guess who is offically fired!!!
10:26 <@Dolemite> ShadowHntr!!@#$!@
10:27 <@ladymerlin> hell yeah!
10:27 < ware> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD5zjUbWpXY
10:27 < ware> thats who the email was from
10:27 < ware> "Im still interested."
10:27 < ware> HAI BET U IZ!
10:28  * ware pillow fights ladymerlin and knocks her airborne with an upperkut
10:28 < ware> BAM WHAT
10:29 <@Dolemite> Damn HC mail server hasn't even attempted delivery to me yet
10:30 <@Dolemite> what a piece of shit
10:30 <@Dolemite> who admins that box, anyway?
10:30 <@Dolemite> why can't you have it in Smyrna?
10:30 < ware> some n00b @ vandy im sure
10:30 <@Dolemite> I don't want to drive all the way downtown
10:31 < ware> is there a way to redraw the cursor in winders? mines stuck on the 4way
10:31 < ware> ladymerlin: u broked mah mouse?
10:34 <@Dolemite> So you know, he hasn't RSVP'd for the Nashville 2600 holiday lunch...  probably because he knows that nobody will buy him lunch
10:34 <@Dolemite> If he did show up I'd make him show cash before he could sit with us
10:35 < ware> HARDDISS
10:35 <@ladymerlin> hehehe
10:35 < ware> then he'd have to give that cash back to teh ppl he owes
10:35 <@ladymerlin> yeah really
10:35 < ware> and go back out to the corner and hustle
10:35 <@Dolemite> He couldn't stay well long enough to do that
10:36 <@baudburn> whodat?
10:36 <@Dolemite> ShadowHunter
10:36 < ware> mmmm lemony tea looks like draft beer
10:36 < ware> HEY! QUIT GOSSIPIN'.
10:37 < ware> we all know where gossipers go....
10:37 <@Dolemite> It's not gossip when he airs all of his dirty laundry IN CHANNEL
10:37 < ware> thats right. *points to the corner*
10:37 <@baudburn> there's two shadow's right?
10:37 < ware> baudburn: theyre both gay
10:37 < ware> err
10:37 <@Dolemite> 'cept one is also a hypochondriac
10:37 < ware> the other is just speshul
10:37 <@baudburn> one pretends his gf ircs or something.. which one is that?
10:37 <@Dolemite> Shadow_Phone
10:38 <@Dolemite> aka Shadow404
10:38 < ware> aka ShadowChick
10:38 <@baudburn> Shadow_Phone != ShadowHunter then?
10:38 <@Dolemite> ShadowHnter / ShadowHunter / maverickbna is the hypochondriac
10:38 <@Dolemite> Though actually, I don't know that all of it is made up
10:38 <@Dolemite> He truly is a fucking nut job
10:38 <@baudburn> ShadowHunter == Maverick?
10:38 <@Dolemite> No
10:39 <@Dolemite> Maverick doesn't IRC
10:39 <@baudburn> oh, ok.. you were confusing me there.
10:39 <@baudburn> stupid people and their damn overlaping nicks
10:39 <@Dolemite> But ShadowHntr sometimes comes on as maverickbna, and we told him to choose another nick
10:39 -!- Dolemite is now known as rugburn
10:39 <@rugburn> Yeah, I hear ya
10:39 <@baudburn> heh
10:39 < ware> http://xkcd.com/360/
10:39 -!- rugburn is now known as Dolemite
10:40 -!- baudburn is now known as budburn
10:40 <@Shadow_Phone> ok and yes, scotchick does actually use irc
10:40 <@budburn> for all those potheads
10:40 -!- budburn is now known as baudburn
10:40 <@Shadow_Phone> shes off work today so she'll probably be jumping on irc
10:40 <@Dolemite> Yeah, and that's about 10% of the time that there's something being typed from her nickname
10:40 < ware> burnbud
10:40 <@Corydon76-dig> She's probably just under the Imperious Curse
10:40 <@baudburn> Shadow_Phone: hey man, whatev.. i don't really care what facade you want to perpetuate
10:41 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
10:43 <@Evilpig> baudburn: are you claiming that Shadow_Phone is just acting straight to fool us?
10:44 <@baudburn> Dolemite: rugburn is a pretty amusing parody name
10:44 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : Don't tease the boy with the glimmer of hope that he can convince someone that he's not gay.
10:45 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: I can't always be the harbinger of doom
10:46 <@baudburn> i wonder when the word Gay was subverted from meaning happy to being homosexual
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10:46 <@brimstone> lol
10:46 <@brimstone> hi "ScotChick"
10:46 <@Evilpig> lol
10:46 <@Dolemite> Yeah, hi, "ScotChick"
10:46 <@baudburn> heh.
10:46 <@Dolemite> ;)
10:47 <@Dolemite> There's no way that could be Shadow404.  He's already on IRC!
10:47 <@Dolemite> I am a true believer, now.
10:47 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, that was just bad timing
10:47 < ware> brimstone: you shut your whore mouth!
10:47 <@nachoguy> http://www.charlotte.com/115/story/414513.html
10:47 <@nachoguy> _He is accused also of biting a police officer in the groin_
10:47 <@Evilpig> timing sure.  we believe you
10:47 <@seeblind> funny how "ScotChick" shows up just when Shadow_Phone says "she" will
10:48 <@baudburn> i love this song..
10:48 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: it's always meant homosexual.  It got subverted to meaning happy
10:48 <@baudburn> anyone here like hybrid?
10:48  * polerin yawns
10:48 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: i dispute that
10:49 < ScotChick_Laptop> helo
10:49 <@brimstone> baudburn, is it a hip-hop version of little drummer boy?
10:49  * ware subverts Corydon76-dig and polerin while baudburn tapes
10:49 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: it was used back in ancient history... in the 1870s
10:49 < ScotChick_Laptop> bad timing from what i read above
10:49 <@Evilpig> don't you mean ehlo ?
10:49 < ScotChick_Laptop> i'm on holiday, am tucked up in bed with cups of tea and eating toast - magic!
10:50 <@seeblind> what is up with all the tea "drinkers" in here?
10:50 <@baudburn> hmm.. i still dispute it.. i'm pretty sure gay meant happy first.
10:50  * Corydon76-dig giggles
10:50 < ware> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22344454/ good stuff about stealin stuff
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: it was a code word meant to ensure that gay people could find each other
10:51 <@baudburn> "1178, "full of joy or mirth," from O.Fr. gai "gay, merry," perhaps from Frank. *gahi (cf. O.H.G. wahi "pretty"). Meaning "brilliant, showy" is from c.1300. "
10:51 < ScotChick_Laptop> nope gay meant happy first and then homosexual
10:51 < ware> ScotChick_Laptop: im drinkin some lemon tea now
10:51 <@baudburn> "OED gives 1951 as earliest date for slang meaning "homosexual" (adj.), but this is certainly too late; gey cat "homosexual boy" is attested in N. Erskine's 1933 dictionary of "Underworld & Prison Slang;" the term gey cat (gey is a Scot. variant of gay) was used as far back as 1893 in Amer.Eng."
10:51 <@baudburn> so you're right 1800's is when it was subverted from "happy" to "homo"
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: it only went from being a code word to a word in public usage due to civil rights activists using the word in the 1950s
10:52 <@baudburn> yes, but the original usage was around 1178.. and meant happy :)
10:52 < ScotChick_Laptop> ware - hot black tea with milk, toast with marmalade and lemon curd - and no work, bliss
10:53 <@Evilpig> ScotChick_Laptop: that is not breakfast food.  go find some greasy bacon and eggs slathered in sausage gravy
10:53 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: curiosity: why was gay chosen as the code word?
10:53 < ware> i loaded up my tea with honey and im about bouncin' off teh walls
10:54 < ScotChick_Laptop> (and for easy laugh purposes) I also have two pussies in bed with me too ;-)
10:54  * Shadow_Phone ears perk up
10:55 <@Dolemite> http://www.beerorkid.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/bacon-_flowchart.jpg
10:55 <@Dolemite> That's how you decide what to eat
10:56 <@Dagmar> I'm taking that over to Bongo to add to their collection of bogus flowcharts and infographics.
10:56 <@Dagmar> I have to redo the Riding/Rolling one they have.
10:56 <@Dolemite> Well, from Shadow_Phone's reaction, it looks like he's not only pretending to have a girlfriend, but pretending to be into beastiality.
10:56 <@Dagmar> I'm going to have to listne to the bloody song and count everything to do that tho
10:56 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: lol
10:56 <@Corydon76-dig> baudburn: because people were unlikely to actually say yes to that question unless they knew the code word
10:57 <@Dagmar> Whatever happened to just doing a little soft-shoe.
10:57 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: hah.. nice
10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> So, yes, even in the 1800s, people were generally miserable
10:59 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: the more things change, the more they stay the same
11:03 <@Dolemite> I still haven't gotten anything today from the HC list
11:03 <@ladymerlin> i ahve
11:03 <@ladymerlin> have even
11:04 < ware> Dolemite: cuz usux
11:04 <@Dolemite> checking my logs, no connection attempt from the list server has even been made
11:05 <@baudburn> It's LOG, It's LOG, It's big it's heavy it's wood!
11:05 <@baudburn> It's LOG, It's LOG, It's better than bad, It's good!
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11:06 < ware> dont wizz on the electric fence!
11:07 < ware> what rolls down stairs and over the chairs and into your neighbors dog? it fits on your back, its good for a snack,
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11:07 < ScotChick_Laptop> i'll bear that in mind
11:07 < ware> everyone knows its log!
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11:07 <@Dagmar> Damn dude, get the lyrics right
11:07 <@Dagmar> What rolls down stairs, alone or in pairs, or over the neighbors dog...
11:08 <@Dagmar> What's good for a snack, and fits on your back, it's LOG, LOG, LOG.
11:08 <@baudburn> that show was messe dup
11:08 <@Dolemite> We likes it that way
11:08 <@baudburn> i can't believe they got that into nick
11:08 <@baudburn> s/into/onto/
11:08 <@Dagmar> Pfft.
11:09 <@baudburn> they were so obviously gay.. and bi-racial too!
11:09 <@Dagmar> That's *nothing* compared to the triump of Invader Zim
11:09 <@Dagmar> Kids parent's start looking for other things by it's creator and find...
11:09 <@Dagmar> Johnny the Homocidal Maniac comics.
11:12 <@Dagmar> Warning!  Contains tiny ninjas!  http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/12/18/funny-pictures-secret-squirrel-training-facility/
11:17 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.  I wonder if the HC mail server IP address is on a blacklist.
11:17 <@Dolemite> That could be why I don't have the email.
11:19 <@Dolemite> oh, well
11:36 < ScotChick_Laptop> whats the website where it offer stuff for sale dead cheap but only for a limited amt of time?
11:36  * ScotChick_Laptop sings fairytale of new york and thinks about getting a glass of wine
11:41 <@Evilpig> woot.com
11:42 <@Dagmar> Meh.
11:42 <@Dagmar> Someone needs to make one that can fire up a bloody wireless connection so you can ftp images into it or something
11:42 <@Dagmar> Then, it would be the shiznit
11:42 < ScotChick_Laptop> pig - cheers mate
11:43 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: they have one like that
11:43 <@Dagmar> I've yet to find it
11:43 <@Evilpig> thinkgeek or someone had them.  I think.  but you had to subscribe to a service.  and it downloads them via wifi from that service.  
11:43 <@Dagmar> If it were listed for $60 I'd have 'em all around my house
11:43 <@Dagmar> They'd be doing clocks and news feeds
11:44 <@Evilpig> they were like $300.  it was retarded
11:44 <@Dagmar> Wow, completely ass backwards design then
11:44 <@Dagmar> Kinda like that Amazon Ebook
11:44 <@Dagmar> The only thing that device has going for it is A WHOLE SHITLOAD OF HIRED SHILLS TO POST GOOD REVIEWS
11:45 <@Dagmar> It's a wireless vending machine for newspapers, priced to a ludicrous height
11:46 <@Evilpig> Dagmar:  http://www.wirelesspictureframe.com/  look at the ads on the right side.  
11:46 <@Evilpig> look like there are a few out there 
11:47 <@Evilpig> http://www.dsicentral.com/products/MF-8115/Default.asp
11:47 <@Dagmar> You see, the problem is this
11:47 <@Dagmar> My parents are OLD.
11:47 <@Dagmar> We got them a digital picture frame last year.
11:48 <@Dagmar> The pictures we copied into it are basically, what's in there.
11:48 <@Dagmar> My dad managed to upload a few more.  My mom, can't figure it out.
11:48 <@Dagmar> So, if I could make it so they could drop the pictures into a damn folder on their desktop, I could actually jury-rig their DSL router to do the rest of hte dirty work
11:56 <@tzanger> heh
11:56 <@tzanger> cvs diff -urHEAD :-)
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12:30 <@Mirage> Michael Winslow..amazing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0PuIsK2ySk
12:42 < Synx_sleep> http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
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13:05 <@SkyDog_> Afternoon all.
13:05  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
13:06  * seeblind shakes a dog bone, then tosses it far to the left
13:06  * baudburn delivers a ninja-uppercut
13:06 <+coil> this old man came rolling home
13:08 <@SkyDog_> what the hell? I'm getting my ass kicked over here!
13:08 <@seeblind> should have chased the dog bone
13:08 <@seeblind> he he
13:09 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
13:09 <@SkyDog_> went over to the HC space and looked around.
13:09 <@SkyDog_> Mudflap, dole and I checked it out.
13:09 <@SkyDog_> I should have more info coming out soon.
13:10 <@Dolemite> it's what's left after a nuclear bomb has exploded
13:10 <@critch> skydog still wanting basesys there?
13:10 <@Dolemite> maybe a little bit better
13:11 <@SkyDog_> critch: I dunno that it is really built for you guys to be there. It's not storefront material.
13:11 <@seeblind> so who picked the lock
13:11 <@SkyDog_> Mudflap had a locksmith come out. He almost could not pick it.
13:11 <@SkyDog_> I have a key on me now.
13:11 <@seeblind> nice, very nice
13:11 <@critch> sweet, we just received word that we aren't shrinking but growing
13:12 <@SkyDog_> That's good.
13:12 <@SkyDog_> Nothing wrong with that at all!
13:12 <@seeblind> keep up the good work
13:13 <@Dolemite> I have the same problem around the holidays
13:13 <@Dolemite> I grow instead of shrink
13:13 <@Dolemite> Honey Baked Ham FTW
13:13 <@critch> i'll send more info when I get back from lunch
13:15 <@ladymerlin> hrmm
13:19 < ware> O M G BECKY
13:24 < ware> OMG PWNEIS!!! PEW PEW PEW LZRZ!!! LZRZ4XMAS!
13:24 <+coil> stfu
13:24 <+coil> SHUT THE FUCK UP WARE
13:25  * polerin blinks
13:28 <@Dagmar> Well...
13:28 <@Dagmar> I have learned a valuabe lesson.
13:28 < ware> about pwnies?
13:28 <@Mirage> don't piss into the wind?
13:29 <+coil> dont touch that hot iron?
13:29 <@baudburn> stfu == shut the fuck up?
13:29 <@Mirage> baaaah means no?
13:29 < ware> little people falling over is hilarious even if they are mentally challenged?
13:29 <+coil> dont drink and drive?
13:30 <@Dagmar> Never, ever leave a large number of plastic grocery bags that were wadded up unattended all night after dumping them in the floor.
13:30 <+coil> huh?
13:30 <@Dagmar> They expand.
13:30 <+coil> where did you leave them
13:30 <+coil> next to the fire place?
13:30 <@Dagmar> It looks like my place was pranked.
13:31 <+coil> what place
13:31 <@Dagmar> MY place
13:31 <+coil> it was pranked how
13:31 <+coil> someone went inside your house?
13:31 < ware> troll
13:31 < ware> burn the troll!
13:31  * Mirage hopes someone bought coil a clue for xmas.
13:31 <@Dagmar> The ENTIRE front room was about shin-deep
13:32 < ware> haha dang how many bags did you have?
13:32 <@polerin> anyone have a suggestion on a php RSS reader?
13:32 <@polerin> hopefully one that can take the RSS feeds and dump it into a db table I specify.
13:32 < ware> polerin: googles reader is nice
13:32 <+coil> no
13:32 <+coil> i dont fucking get it
13:32 <+coil> bags magically expanded, what the fuck is the point
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13:35 <@Dagmar> Dude the point is that osmeone has to clean them up
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13:36 < Synx_sleep> anyone run rockbox?
13:36 <+coil> boo fucking hoo
13:36 <@Dagmar> I'd been stuffing them into a cabinet for YEARS, on the theory that eventually I'd take them and stuff them into the recycling bin
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13:36 <+coil> you left them there
13:36 <@Dagmar> Packin' em in good.
13:36 <@Dolemite> osmeone?  Are you playing Scrabble again?
13:36 <@Dagmar> Yeah well, day before yesterday when I got back from grocery shopping, I decided to go ahead and round them all up and finally do that.
13:37 <@Dolemite> We recycle all of ours as poopy diaper containment units.
13:37 <@Dagmar> Somehow my keys got in there, and I couldn't find them last night until I kicked the 20gal bag they now were in.
13:37 <+coil> it soulds like a personal problem
13:37 <@Dagmar> So, I dumped the lot on the floor, and fished out my keys and left them there.
13:37 < Synx_hm> Dolemite: huh?
13:38 <@Dagmar> With the heater on they were being gently warmed, and began uncrinkling and uncompacting themselves.
13:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: so did you get the recruiter spam, too?
13:38 <+coil> did you least take a pic so we can laugh at you
13:38 <@Dolemite> put the poopy diapers in plastic grocery bags and tie them in a knot.  Keeps the smell somewhat contained.
13:38 <@Dolemite> Yep, I got recruiter spammed
13:38 <@Dagmar> We're talking about ~200 sqft of floor *covered* in the fucking things.
13:38 <+coil> bad ass
13:39 <@Dagmar> I opened the door and heard "pffsssh" as they were being pushed back
13:39 <@Dagmar> Walked in and was "OHMYGOD."
13:40 <@Dagmar> If I had more free time I could probably make an entry into the next Macy's Parade with these things, and it would dwarf all the others.
13:40 < ware> Dagmar: pics or shens
13:40 <@Dagmar> Oh fuck no
13:40 <@Dagmar> I'm not turning them loose again
13:40 <@Dagmar> It took long enough to round all the goddamnthings up and put them back
13:41 <+coil> hahahah
13:41 <@Dagmar> Feel free to try the experiment on your own.
13:41 <+coil> Dagmar: maybe i will
13:41 <+coil> can i have your bags though
13:42 <@Dagmar> Collect 5-6 years worth of those little bags, compressed into little balls, packed repeatedly into a big drawer or cabinet and then dump them somewhere with warm air blowing on them
13:42 <+coil> no
13:42 <+coil> sounds like a waste of time
13:42 <@Dagmar> Basically, every bag I'd gotten that I didn't use as a wastebasket liner in the bathroom, since about 2002.
13:42 <+coil> i have better things to waste my time on
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13:43 <@Dagmar> Good thing I still tell the roomba when to run
13:44 <+coil> do you slap it
13:44 <@Dagmar> I step on it
13:44 <@Dagmar> It's flat, and it's got a button big enough to easily hit with your toe on top of it
13:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: you know, Kroger now offers a bin in which you can recycle those bags
13:44 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I know
13:45 <@Dagmar> Probabably 3/4 or more of them are going there after this little fiasco.
13:45 <@Dagmar> It's just been easier to stuff them into a cabinet and forget about them
13:45 <+coil> fur shizzle
13:45 <@Evilpig> I use the cabinet under the sink for them
13:45 <@Dagmar> I can pretty much fill that bin.
13:45 <@Evilpig> they make good bathroom trashbags
13:46 <@Evilpig> also fit that little trashcan in my office
13:46 <@Dagmar> Yeah that's what I mainly use them for, but that's like, a bag every two weeks going out, with 10-15 per week going in
13:47 <@Evilpig> alright.  I have a thing of kaukauna port wine cheese spread and some crackers.  I'm gonna waste the rest of the day playing monopoly
13:50 <@Corydon76-dig> online monopoly?
13:50 <@Evilpig> kinda.  I won it from that mcdonalds game
13:50 <@Dagmar> Basically, I hadn't seen an apartment so universally not-tidy since James's two ferrets got out of their cage and into a bag of Double-Stuff Oreos
13:51 <+coil> mmm oreos
13:51 <@Dagmar> Yes, apparently ferrets like them.
13:51 <@Dagmar> ...and the sugar makes them completely insane.
13:51 <+coil> it doesn't fucking matter, i cleaned up the apt all by my self yesterday, and today it is messy
13:51 <@Corydon76-dig> I had a cat growing up that loved green peas
13:51 <@Dagmar> It looked like someone had broken in and tossed the apartment looking for something.
13:51 <@Dagmar> ...adn then I thought, "Wait, did *midgets* break in?"
13:52 <@Dagmar> Anything over the two foot mark in the apartment was untouched.
13:52 <+coil> did it have that ferret smell?
13:52 <@Dagmar> No, ferrets get descented man.
13:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: and there were ferret turds everywhere?
13:52 <+coil> huh?
13:52 <@Dagmar> Provided you bathe them properly every two weeks or so, they only barely smell "ferrety"
13:53 <@Dagmar> Corydon76-vcch: No actually when they'd break out, most of the time they'd break back in to poop.
13:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, well, James' apartment certainly did smell ferrety...
13:53 <@Dagmar> When we woke up that morning, they were both back in their cage, which is why it took a bit to figure out WTF happened
13:53 <@Dagmar> That'll happen if you fail to empty the litter box regularly
13:53 <+coil> did the lock their cage behind them?
13:54 <@Dagmar> No, they busted a hole in the tubing linking the two cages.
13:54 <@Dagmar> ...and they went right back in the same way.
13:54 <@Dagmar> Ferrets are quite smart.
13:54 <@Dagmar> Problem is that they have all the focus of a five year old on a Hawaiian Punch binge
13:54 <+coil> yip yip
13:55 <+coil> at least they didn't get into the plastic bag cabinet
13:55 <+coil> that would of been fun
13:55 <@Dagmar> They got into *all* the kitchen cabinets.
13:55 <@Dagmar> Well, at least the lower ones.
13:55 <+coil> did they fuck shit up?
13:55 <@Dagmar> So, there were some bags involved there, but not that many
13:56 <@Dagmar> The real issue was books and CDs and video tapes and gaming equipment just *all over the place*
13:56 <@Dagmar> ...and cookies.
13:56 <+coil> howd they move it all
13:56 <@Dagmar> Cookies fucking everywhere
13:56 <+coil> COOKIE COOOKIE COOOKIE!!!!
13:56 <@Dagmar> They had all night to screw around
13:57 <+coil> i bet they were saying that
13:57 <@Dagmar> You ever see little kids just running around in a swarm, screaming their heads off?
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13:57 <@Dagmar> I get the feeling the ferrets were basically doing that
13:58 <+coil> i wonder what i can feed cats to make them do that
13:58 <@Dagmar> Catnip.
13:58 <@Dagmar> Dishes in the sink or not, I've done enough cleaning for today.
13:58 <@Dagmar> It's bedtime.
13:59 <@Dagmar> Warning: Catnip makes cats not so able to keep from slashing you open
13:59 <+coil> catnip makes them chill
13:59 <@Dagmar> Not all cats.
13:59 <+coil> and these cats aren't really affected by it
13:59 <@Dagmar> Just like some people are hyper drunks, some cats turn into little tasmanian devils
13:59 <@Dagmar> One of JonnyX's cats was like that
13:59 <+coil> ohh
13:59 <@Dagmar> He'd jump at the arm of the couch and just STICK to it
14:00 <@Dagmar> ...and then look around with that crazy look in his eyes
14:00 <@sdodson> Dagmar: you call that teacher?
14:00 <@Dagmar> sdodson: i called the principal actually.
14:00 <@sdodson> Dagmar: What happened?
14:00 <@sdodson> They say it was a hoax!
14:00 <@Dagmar> I didn't exactly lay down demands, but I basically gave the guy a quick 5 minute run-down of the only sane course of action
14:01 <@Dagmar> I know.
14:01 <@sdodson> which is/was?
14:01 <@Dagmar> I wish the guy would have said that.
14:01 <@Dagmar> I wasted the breath and effort of trying not to start an argument.
14:01 <+coil> crazy ass kat
14:02 <@Dagmar> Considering that stupid shit like that does actually happen, it was a lame hoax.
14:03 <@Dagmar> All I really gave the guy room to say was "That sounds like a good solution."
14:03 <@Corydon76-dig> We talking about the hoax on slashdot?
14:03 <@GodFix> what hoax?
14:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Detention for using Firefox
14:03 <+coil> yeah huh
14:04 <+coil> that's lame
14:04 <+coil> but it's a lame
14:04 <+coil> lame=hoax?
14:04 <@Dagmar> Some dimwit took a detention notice from their school and diddled it up so it looked like they were given 2 hours detention for running the "FoxFire.exe" browser when they were supposed to be doing their classwork.
14:04 <@Dagmar> ..and then posted it on an image site and got it linked to a few url feeds
14:04 <@Corydon76-dig> When'd you call?
14:05 <@Evilpig> i must have missed that one
14:05 <@Dagmar> Pretty much the moment I got in the car
14:05 <@Corydon76-dig> It was debunked on Slashdot a few days ago
14:05 <@Dagmar> ...the morning of.
14:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah
14:05 <@Dagmar> It wasn't even on Slashdot
14:05 <@Dagmar> I might well have been the little rumble thta happens before an avalanche hits
14:06 <@Dagmar> God only knows how many calls they got
14:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, on Monday
14:07 <@Dagmar> Pig's job would probably be much easier if he could get a few of the punters to consider the network something to protect instead of abuse
14:07 <@Corydon76-dig> http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/17/1721232
14:08 <@Dagmar> Yeah that morning when ware posted about a link he'd gotten Dugg, near it was a copy of that faux fax
14:08 <@Evilpig> I really dont' care what the little fucks do.  the teachers don't know better.  the students only real worry is if I catch them directly.  then they are fucked
14:09 <@baudburn> Evilpig: what can you do?
14:09 <@Evilpig> and I don't go through proper channels either.  I just remove access to the things they want
14:09 <@baudburn> hah
14:09 <@Dagmar> Well, since he's effectively # on the network?
14:09 <@Evilpig> I have told the stories at PN and stuff where I sit in the back of classrooms and watch what they are doing and modify the filter in real time to block whatever they are on without saying a word about it
14:09 <@Evilpig> they think it is magic
14:10 <@Dagmar> "shoulde- sniffing traffic"  ;)
14:10 <@Dagmar> er shoulder-sniffinf
14:10 <@Dagmar> damn I can't type
14:10 <+coil> hahaha Evilpig that's awesome
14:10 <+coil> i wanna work in a school just todo that to the lil fucks
14:10 <@Evilpig> most of the computer labs have monitoring software on all the PCs as well.  so I can sit anywhere in the building and bring up all 30+ screens at once and watch as well
14:11 <+coil> you should like type on their screen, "stopo fucking going here"
14:11 <@Dagmar> Nah, he should turn some of them
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14:12 <@Evilpig> I mean the thing is.  the students don't know how to hide what they are doing.  they are obvious about it.  they tilt the screen so you can't see, the quickly minimize screens when you walk by, etc
14:12 <@sdodson> Dagmar: you don't feel guilty about your reaction?
14:12 <@Dagmar> get them onto the problem of how to stop the things they're doing that they're not supposed to that they think are easy
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14:12 <@Evilpig> it's liek a giant red flag for me to find out what they are doing
14:12 <@Dagmar> sdodson: My reaction of what?
14:12 <@Dagmar> I told them they shouldn't have assigned detention for that, and that they have a problem with the staff not being up to speed on technology, which is increasingly more vital to someone's entry into the job market.
14:13 <@sdodson> Am i the only person who sees this as completely valid?
14:13 <@sdodson> kid violates usage policies and gets punished, what more is there to it?
14:13 <@Evilpig> personally.  if a school wants to say that the students can't use firefox on the school computers that is their policy.  many places you will goto work have software policies on acceptable use, etc.  and that is just another policy 
14:13 <@sdodson> ya, ferreal dawg
14:13 <@Dagmar> That the intelligent thing to do was to simply go to the kid and say "Okay, so we kinda made a mess here.  You no longer have detention.  Instead, we'd appreciate it if you'd voluntarily stay those two hours and give us a list of the things you think we could do to make our network more secure and useful."
14:13 <@Dagmar> IE is a fucking *disaster* in practice.
14:14 <@baudburn> sdodson: i say everyone on slapdork is an idiot. and they're all just making a big deal out of nothing..
14:14 <@Dagmar> It is a MAJOR source of spyware infestations
14:14 <@Evilpig> yes it is.  but if you lock the computer down and etc IE isn't that bad.  it's still slow as shit and renders fucking weird.  but if someone chose that for a reason that is their reason
14:14 <@Dagmar> If a kid wants to use Firefox instead of IE to do his work, he's got at least one useful bit of clue
14:14 <@baudburn> Dagmar: so what, it's their policy.  take it or leave it.  i can't believe you actually care enough to bother calling them about firefox vs IE..
14:14 <@Dagmar> ...and considering what it would take to get detention over it, they would be a major bogon collector
14:14 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: if it was his computer fine.  school computer he has no right to install anything extra on it
14:14 <@Dagmar> No, dude.
14:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Dagmar: I kind of suspect he wasn't supposed to be using the computer AT ALL
14:15 <@Dagmar> Well, for one, it was a hoax.
14:15 <@baudburn> honestly, thats kinda sad.. its like calling me up and saying "DUDE, you use VIM?! what a luser! we all know EMacs is the only browser"
14:15 <@Dagmar> For the other, kids do have to occasionally do research for reports using the internet.
14:15 <@sdodson> IE doesn't matter.
14:15 <@Dagmar> You know, the thing we were all supposed to be able to use it for when we were in school but didn't work out so well?
14:15 <@Evilpig> yes it was a hoax.  but the fact still remains.  a business / organization has a right to say what can be run on their equipment.  period.
14:15 <@baudburn> to which i'd respond, "yeah, you're totally right.. and i care" and hang up
14:15 <@Dagmar> If you slap a kid who has a clue in the face like that, he just turns into your enemy.
14:16 <@critch> baudburn: not exactly, it is like getting in trouble for using vim instead of emacs when the stated goal of the assignment was to write a text file.
14:16 <@Dagmar> ...which means you've just possibly _created_ one of us, at age 15-16, with the technology of today, and no moral compass.
14:16 <@baudburn> critch: i'm talking about Dagmar taking the time to call them.. not about what happened
14:17 <@Evilpig> personally... if I were that principal.  I would outlaw firefox for the next year to teach them a lesson on what happens when you make shit up
14:17 <@Dagmar> My "computers" teacher in high school let me write my assignments in Pascal, and maintain the machines in the lab
14:17 <@Evilpig> make them USE ie as a punishment
14:17 <@sdodson> yay i started debate
14:17 <@critch> baudburn: yes, it is like what I said, and then dagmars response was just to point out based on information available at the time that the use of a different app didn't cause the assignment to be invalid
14:17 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, I could have easiily reduced everything to uselessness without even trying
14:17 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: it's kind of a silly debate, given that the school won't say what actually happened
14:17 <@Dagmar> When was the last time any of you guys were on a really insecure network of PCs, for extended periods of time?
14:18 <@critch> hmm, PN?
14:18 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: My suspicion is that the kid got another detention for pulling this shit
14:18 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: all the time
14:18 <@baudburn> critch: ok, fine.. i modify my previous statment to say that anyone that woudl argue with me about my choice of editor to write a text file needs to find something better to spend their time on
14:18 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: yeah, man.  I really do feel for you there.  I know there's no damn way you could really keep ahead of all those things with what they give you
14:18 <@baudburn> especially if that person is an uninvolved third party
14:19 < Synx_hm> anyone use rockbox?
14:19 <@Dagmar> At that age, you don't think about networks the same as "adults" do.
14:19 <@critch> baudburn: and that still misses the point, Dagmar argued for the student to have choice when that wasn't the requirement of the assignment
14:19 <@critch> Synx_hm: yes I do
14:19 < Synx_hm> critch: you just dump files on your ipod, or sync with itunes or gtkpod and use rockbox to access the db from there?
14:20 <@Dagmar> critch: No, I argued that it was very bad to punish a student for actually doing an assignment, using a tool other than the browser they had been "trained" on
14:20 < Synx_hm> ive been just dumping files on it, but if i ever wanted to boot back to stock firmware there is obviously nothing in the music db
14:20 <@Evilpig> I can say when I am in the schools I often look for things I can do to make things easier for me.  which may or may not make teh students happy.  in many cases I have pissed off faculty and students alike and just didn't care.  they eventually give up their arguments when they realize the person running the network won't be changing
14:20 <@baudburn> critch: i'm saying that it's sad that dagmar got involved in the first place when he's an unvolved third party with no affiliation
14:20 <@critch> Dagmar: okay, but I still was fairly close
14:20 <@Dagmar> Problem Number One from the kid's point of view is going to be "Damnit, I was DOING my classwork."
14:20 <@baudburn> Dagmar: you're  smart guy, you should spend your time doing things that are more useful
14:21 <@critch> Synx_hm: the db for rockbox isn't the same as the ipod db. I use rockbox on my sansea
14:21 <@Dagmar> So out of spite, they're likely to go and specifically *not* do their classwork
14:21 <@Dagmar> You know how kids are.
14:21 <@Dagmar> I remember how I used to think about these things.
14:21 < Synx_hm> critch: ah i assumed ipod, ya i think rockbox could prob detect the raw files in a ipod db though, anyways ill stick to drag and drop ;)
14:22 < Synx_hm> on a side note i think my ipod needs a new battery :(
14:22 <@Dagmar> You're sitting there connected to this massive network of equipment, that you know how to make do the shit *you* want it to, and no one around you has any idea or comprehension of what you're doing on them, right in front of their eyes.
14:22 <@critch> I still enjoy the sansea better than ipods, similar ui and lower price without the apple name on them
14:22 < ware> critch: riding this weekend
14:23 <@Dagmar> The level of shit I knew when I was in 11th grade, I could have just said "No more computers for anyone tomorrow" and done it
14:23 <@critch> I rode today. Was supposed to go riding today with friends, but too many people decided it was a better idea to maintanence cars before holiday travel.
14:23 <@Dagmar> Punishing geeky kids for actually having a clue *makes* script kiddies happen
14:24 < Synx_hm> critch: ohh cool i need to get back on the bike, im taking my pedals/shoes home to ride with my dad over my vacation
14:24 < Synx_hm> critch: he'll kick my ass, he rides to work most days of the week
14:24 <@critch> reminds me of a exam in copmputer programming class, needed animation, graphics and sound, I took a demo maker on my commodore to class and showed the teacher. I bluffed my way through the dissassembly enough to get an A+
14:25 <@critch> Synx_hm: motorcycles
14:25 <@Dagmar> hah
14:25 <@Dagmar> 6502 asm was easy
14:25 <@Dagmar> Like, seriously easy as hell
14:25 < Synx_hm> critch: damn it
14:25 <@critch> Well, the fun was doing it from the C128 side
14:25 <@Dagmar> It was like magic to the people I went to high school with
14:25 <@critch> built in dissassembler
14:26 <@Dagmar> Wel, that was kinda a no-brainer
14:26 <@Dagmar> Probably more people wrote in asm for the C=64 than they did for BASIC by the look of it.
14:26 <@critch> yeah, 10 minutes or so to type in the message for the scroll bar and then had to pick a good tracker file to go with it
14:26 <@Dagmar> i wrote raster scrollers
14:27 <@Dagmar> I even learned a tiny bit of trig so I could generate them properly
14:28 <@Dagmar> Once you got your head around the idea that the machine was SOLELY a device for making stuff appear on a TV screen, you could have some real fun with those.
14:29 <@Dagmar> ...and unlike the complexity of GL and all the interfaces we have now, it was stupid-simple.
14:30 <@Dagmar> You had exactly 83 clock cycles to do what you wished as each line was drawn on the screen, and the number of scan lines you had, and you had a little book with all 240 opcodes that told *exactly* how many clock-cycles each one took.
14:31 <@critch> I loved the tracker player I found that made a crude load meter in the border. Basically it triggered a routine on vertical refresh and would change the border color. At the end of the routine it would swap the color back. How far down the color change reached was the load.
14:32 <@Dagmar> Yeah, and that stuff is trivial once you're writing in asm
14:32 <@Dagmar> Which, with 240 opcodes, and only about two dozen "real" instructions...
14:32 <@Dagmar> It didn't take long to learn.
14:32 <+coil> 2lng2lrn2opcode
14:33 <@Dagmar> ASM on x86 is OMGLOTZ of opcodes
14:34 <@Dagmar> Metric craptons of registers.
14:35 <@Dagmar> C=64 had three 8-bit registers and two 1-bit registers.
14:37 < Synx_hm> critch: you use rsync to keep the music synced up?
14:37 <+coil> where should i download osx86 from
14:37 <+coil> lamer torrent site?
14:38 <@critch> Synx_hm: nope, I have way too much to fit on my mp3 player
14:39 < Synx_hm> ahh
14:39 <@critch> Synx_hm: many times I run a recompressor over the music I want to listen to and have it dump to the mp3 player. Most of the time I want lower bitrates on the player because there is too much noise in my listening environment to worry about high bitrates and selection is more important
14:39 < Synx_hm> Anyone into organ funk/jazz crazyness
14:39 < Synx_hm> www.bigorgantrio.com  i saw then last year and will be seeing them again while im home in LA
14:40 < Synx_hm> just happened upon them in a local bar, they fucking rock!
14:40 <@critch> Synx_hm: I used my mp3 player on a 23 hour ride from Antioch TN to Kenibec SD a little over a year ago, wore the battery out in the 19 hours it said it supported.
14:40 < Synx_hm> wow
14:40 < Synx_hm> i killed my ipod in 7 hours on a flight the other day :(
14:40 < Synx_hm> had the volume all the way up though, and im not sure if rockbox is harder on the battery
14:41 < ware> ROFL
14:41 < ware> Dagmar: nd frankly, if the character had a small model airplane instead of genitals it wouldn't be something you'd have any reason to care about.
14:41 <@critch> rockbox is harder on the battery, but I don't think volume is
14:41 < ware> ftw
14:41 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: it's just my efforts to point out silly vigilante crap
14:41 < Synx_hm> critch: duno
14:42 <@critch> Synx_hm: volume is just a variable resister, so you turned the music into heat by turning it down instead of leaving it wide open.
14:42 < Synx_hm> critch: good point didn't think about that
14:43 < Synx_hm> critch: although i imagine type of listing device could load the ipod differently
14:43 < Synx_hm> critch: and the volume is dac controlled i imagine too, so not sure if that could change anything
14:44 <@critch> ahh, well dac controlled, might be different.
14:44 < Synx_hm> im just guessing there, but its prob controlled in the dac, i doubt some type of digitally controlled POT ic
14:45 <@Dagmar> I wasn't being vigilante about it.
14:45 <@Dagmar> I was basically calling them to say "Please don't make another script kiddie"
14:46 <@Dagmar> I was just offering them an easy way of how to not do it instead of bothering to explain my motives
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14:48 < Synx_hm> critch: in any case the patch cord i made for the jet worked great, that is untill the ipod died in the middle of a hour of pattern work hehe
14:48 < ware> man
14:49 < ware> theres nothing else to do!
14:49 < ware> screw documentation.
14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, anybody catch the latest Wikipedia scandal?
14:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Their COO is a convicted felon
14:49 <@baudburn> Corydon76-dig: link?
14:50 <@Corydon76-dig> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071221/ap_on_hi_te/wikipedia_felon_2
14:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Or was
14:50 <+coil> hi Corydon76-dig q
14:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Oops
14:50 <@baudburn> hah
14:51 <@baudburn> ow.
14:51 <@baudburn> Doran had multiple drunken-driving convictions, and records show earlier run-ins for theft, writing bad checks and wounding her boyfriend with a gunshot to the chest.
14:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Defense attorneys countered that she helped authorities so she could win leniency in a pending credit-card forgery case.
14:52 < ware> sounds like a chick id date
14:52 <@Corydon76-dig> So a person with a history of cheating the financial industry is signing off on financials for a nonprofit... riiiiiiight
14:54 <@baudburn> ok, wtf
14:54 <@baudburn> "She had been sent by a temporary agency in 2006 and worked part time as Wikimedia's bookkeeper. Soon after, Wikimedia's board voted 6-1 to promote her to chief operating officer."
14:54 <@baudburn> She got sent in 2006 BY A TEMP AGENCY.. and in 2007 she's promoted to COO?!
14:54 <@baudburn> does that make any sense at all?
14:54 <@polerin> wow
14:54 <@polerin> that's a HELL of a jump
14:54 <@polerin> lol
14:55 <@polerin> nice.
14:56 <@baudburn> "Bothwell also popped up in 1995, when a former roommate was accused of poisoning a man for insurance money." wow this chick is high class
14:56 < Synx_hm> wow
14:57 < Synx_hm> i have a deep pimple on my elbow wtf
14:57 < Synx_hm> or a rock in there i duno but it hurts :(
14:58 <+coil> Synx_hm: cut off your arm
14:58 < Synx_hm> i think i should
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15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, here's a waste of taxpayer money... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/ts_nm/usa_childabduction_dc_2
15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> The guy got 74 life sentences on state charges, but the Feds decided they needed to prosecute and add another 170 years
15:06 <@Dagmar> When you get caught WITH child porn, AND children, you are FUCKED.
15:06 < Synx_hm> ipodjuce.com anyone gotten batteries from them?
15:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, but think... even if he only served a year each of each life sentence, he's never getting out alive
15:07 <@Dagmar> That's pretty much the idea
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> So what's the point of giving him another 170 years?
15:07 <@Dagmar> Parity in sentencing
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Waste of time
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> and money
15:07 <@Dagmar> Otherwise, someone caught with 2 pics of a 12 year old gets one month in jail
15:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, but the Feds could have just declined to file, given that he's never getting out
15:09 <@Dagmar> Which would have meant the resources expended in the investigation couldn't be credited to a prosecution
15:09 <+coil> hi Dagmar
15:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Eh, I suppose
15:09 <+coil> you want my bags?
15:09 <@Dagmar> NO.
15:09 <+coil> hahahaah
15:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Still a waste of resources
15:09 <@Dagmar> On the balance sheets the wasted manpower on the investigation would be a larger one
15:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Government isn't run like a business
15:10 <@Corydon76-dig> I suppose that's the real answer
15:11 <@Dagmar> They have to answer to jumpy politicians
15:11 < Synx_hm> http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/CancerPreventionAndTreatment/story?id=4038257&page=1
15:11 < Synx_hm> ~minlinux
15:11 <+MxZBot> Synx_hm: wish i knew
15:11 < Synx_hm> err
15:11 <@Dagmar> Office + Politics.
15:11 < Synx_hm> ~minlink
15:11 <+MxZBot> i don't know, Synx_hm
15:11 < Synx_hm> ~minilink
15:11 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/go.com/7NGzG
15:11 < Synx_hm> one more tie
15:11 < Synx_hm> time eh
15:12 <@Dagmar> This is how they justify their gargantuan budgets
15:12 <@Dagmar> ha-ha
15:13 <@Evilpig> http://www.beerorkid.com/2007/12/19/our-house-got-broken-into-paybacks-are-a-biaaaaatch-apparently/
15:15 <@Corydon76-dig> I dunno, I don't see law enforcement getting a budget being a problem, especially after dramatic recoveries like this one
15:16 <@Corydon76-dig> I'd be in favor of taking all the money used for prosecuting kids smoking pot and using it for finding missing kids
15:17 <@Evilpig> i'd rather turn that money toward smoking kids.  mmmm
15:17 <@Evilpig> I bet they'd be tasty
15:19 <@Corydon76-dig> 74 life sentences... that's 1500 years, minimum
15:20 < Synx_hm> why just just put the man to death
15:20 < Synx_hm> actually i think spending your life in jail might be worse than death
15:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Because death is more merciful than a child molester in general population
15:20 <@critch> Synx_hm: that is my opinion as well, quit punnishing the population by forcing us to support him
15:21 < Synx_hm> ya that is a good point Corydon76-dig
15:21 < Synx_hm> i hear they do not take kindly to that type of crime in federal pound me in the ass prison
15:21 <@Evilpig> http://www.howmanyfiveyearoldscouldyoutakeinafight.com/  <-- ware
15:24 < Synx_hm> i could take on 17
15:24 < Synx_hm> really though i doubt it
15:24 < Synx_hm> hehe
15:24 <@Corydon76-dig> In fact, I'd be in favor of a law that prevents prison officials from putting child molesters in protective custody
15:25 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: problem then is you are encouraging inmates to act in otherwise illegal ways for punishment of a person under the care of the state
15:26 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, crud
15:27 <@critch> prison is to hopefully be only punishment, and not a reinforcement of illegal behaviours
15:27 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cog_nate/sets/72157602400060222/
15:28 <@Evilpig> some dude brewing beer in a pumpkin
15:28 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: you can't use other inmates to inflict punishments?
15:28 < Synx_hm> ohh il bet that taste fucking awesome!!!
15:28 < ware> thats pretty cool
15:29 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: I say we shouldn't. The punishment doled out by an inmate would be considered assult in the rest of the world. We want inmates that can leave prison to be normal citizens, not further hardened criminals.
15:31 <@Corydon76-dig> If that were true, we'd never award life sentences
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15:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Prison is partially about reform, but it's also about keeping dangerous people off the streets
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15:32 <@critch> yes, in keeping them off the streets till a time when they no longer pose a threat to the rest of the population.
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, that's not true, either
15:33 < Synx_hm> lifers?
15:33 <@critch> I abhor warehousing criminals. If we have absolutely no doubt they commited the crime, and we have deemed they can't return to the population safely, they should be put to death.
15:33 < Synx_hm> there has to be some middle ground, but i doubt we'll ever find it in our time
15:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Sociopaths do get out, when their terms are up
15:34 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: yeah, but at the same time, if there's any doubt at all that they might be innocent, then it's better to warehouse 100 guilty people than execute a single innocent person
15:34 <@critch> yes, I am agreeing there
15:35 <@Corydon76-dig> In some ways, Islamic law is better there.  You need 4 eyewitnesses to carry out a sentence of death
15:35 < Synx_hm> how about hand chopping off though eh
15:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Under a perfect execution of Islamic law, only the guilty would be put to death
15:36 < Synx_hm> but ya i see your point
15:36 <@critch> Corydon76-dig: never mind that whole lashing a rape victim though
15:37 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: no system is perfect.  I simply meant the part of Islamic law referring to death sentences
15:37 <@critch> I wasn't faulting your reference, just as you, pointing portions of it
15:38 < Synx_hm> critch: you ever have problems with rockbox creating doubles in the db?
15:39 <@critch> no, but I did have a lot of problems with it not reading the tags on some oggs but it displays them fine when playing them.
15:39 < Synx_hm> hrm
15:40 <@critch> of course my rev is over a year old.
15:40 <@critch> I did however enjoy recompressing some Torchwood eps to put on the sansea for watching while on the plane.
15:42 < Synx_hm> can i del recursive selective files?
15:42 < Synx_hm> ie i wana del all the *.ini and *.db files recursive in a dir
15:42 <@critch> never tried
15:46 < Synx_hm> wtf where is the ghost a drive option in the gost 12.0 cd
15:56 <@ShadowHntr> i use ghost 8.0
15:57 < Synx_hm> ya i should go back to that
15:57 <@ShadowHntr> ghost 2003
15:57 <@ShadowHntr> can make a bartpe disk with it
16:02 <@critch> fucking stores are annoying the shit out of me, they list the opteron 2350 for sale, but none have a ship date available.
16:02 < Synx_hm> find Music/ -name *.ini -exec rm {} \;
16:02 < Synx_hm> woot
16:05 <@ShadowHntr> that a quad-core one?
16:06 <@critch> yeah, Barcelona quad core 2.0 ghz chip
16:06 <@critch> Oh, and capable of running in a 2 socket system, so you can get 8 cores in a machine
16:06 < ware> http://www.eaglesnestoutfittersinc.com/
16:07 <@critch> is it me or does their logo look like it should be emo
16:07 < ware> yeah it does look like emo
16:11 <@Shadow_Phone> in exact representation of ware and coil
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16:14  * coil eye fucks Shadow_Phone 
16:27 <@ShadowHntr> is gmail on the fritz?
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16:46 <@Catonic> what up?
16:53 <@sdodson> hi catonic, what you up to for the holiays?
16:55 <@Catonic> im going south
16:57 <@sdodson> Me too!
16:57 <@Catonic> how far?
17:00 <@dc0de> who's going to Florida?
17:00 <@sdodson> Catonic: ATL of course
17:00  * Catonic hold his hand up
17:00 <@dc0de> Catonic where are you going to be?
17:01 <@Catonic> ft faudy
17:01 <@Catonic> *ft laudy
17:01 <@sdodson> what you doing there?
17:01 <@dc0de> Ormond Beach
17:02 <@Catonic> I plan to get my vacationing on
17:05 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgMOSB5yg_4
17:05 <@Catonic> ^lame
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17:50 <@tzanger> wtf was that
17:57 <@dasunt> $1/watt is cheaper than coal?
17:57  * dasunt ponders.
17:57 <@dasunt> 100 cents/watt solar.
17:57 <@dasunt> coal = 8 cents per 1000 watt/hrs.
17:58 <@dasunt> Or .008 cent/watt.
17:58 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoygH4h45jM (language - nsfw)
17:58 <@dasunt> So 12,500 hours, or 521 days.
17:59 <@dc0de> Mirage that guy rocks
17:59 <@dasunt> Assuming max efficienty 24/7, which seems unlikely with solar panels.
17:59 <@Mirage> dc0de: special on Comedy Central tonight
18:02 <@dc0de> Mirage what time?
18:02 <@Mirage> 7pm csT
18:07 <@Mirage> Classic.. Uncle Larry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFG8B1M-Da4 (nsfw)
18:09 <@Mirage> I used to have that episode of Rodney's Place on tape.  That one also had The Amazing Jonathon, and Tim Allen.
18:16 <@brimstone> solar is like, 10% efficent
18:17 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgc1IREbnjE
18:19 <@sdodson> is dasunt referencing something we should know about prior to engaging in this conversation?
18:19 <@Mirage> read more /.
18:19 <@sdodson> I try not to.
18:19 <@sdodson> It leads to calling up schools and harassing people.
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18:36 <@Catonic> the amazing jonathan is a hoot
18:37 <@sdodson> sawing off his arm and stabbing the girl parts are lame.
18:37 <@Mirage> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQNevQF5ucY
18:41 <@tzanger> I wonder if my ancient equipment has anything interesting to offer on the GPIB ports
18:41 <@tzanger> I have a Tek 1241 logic analyzer and an HP 54201A DSO
18:41 <@tzanger> if I could configure/run these things and capture waveforms from linux I'd be stoked
18:42 <@Catonic> so would half the world
18:42 <@Catonic> usb -> gbip = fail
18:43 <@tzanger> Catonic: I'd use a PCI card if I need to... I generally don't like usb
18:43 <@Catonic> pci cards don't fit into laptops
18:43 <@tzanger> my logic analyzer and DSO aren't exactly portable
18:44 <@Catonic> google hp 141t :)
18:46 <@tzanger> yeah
18:46 <@tzanger> I have a Tektronix 7984 in the garage
18:46 <@tzanger> that's a nice spectrum analyzer though
18:47 <@tzanger> that's the next piece of equipment I want to acquire
18:47 <@sasquatc4> w00t, found a pcmcia/cardbus to expresscard adapter, at a reasonable price
18:47 <@Catonic> orly?
18:47 <@Catonic> link?
18:48 <@sasquatc4> http://www.duel-systemsadapters.com/ thats the company that makes em, but you can get em at sewel direct for like 110 a piece
18:49 <@Catonic> meh
18:49 <@Catonic> I wont have this lappie in another six months.
18:49 <@dasunt> Oh God.
18:49 <@dasunt> http://youtube.com/watch?v=_0719DxMOUY
18:49 <@dasunt> That's horrible.
18:49 <@Catonic> yes my son?
18:49 <@dasunt> (And that's a rickroll link)
18:50 <@dasunt> Or an abomination of one.
18:50 <@sasquatc4> Catonic: well thats sorta the issue, alot of big manufacturers arent making laptops with pccard slots anymore, its all expresscard making all those nice cards obsolete
18:50 <@Catonic> yup
18:50 <@Catonic> nothing like planned obsolecense to infuriate the market
18:50 <@sasquatc4> yup
18:50 <@Catonic> I have an AHA-1640...
18:50 <@Catonic> I will take it with me to my grave.
18:50 <@sasquatc4> just glad i found that, cause the only other one i found before was 1k
18:51 <@tzanger> what's an AHA1640?
18:51 <@Catonic> pcmcia adaptec scsi
18:51 <@tzanger> ah
18:51 <@tzanger> wtf do you use it for
18:51 <@Catonic> nothing...
18:51 <@tzanger> I haven't used SCSI in ages
18:51 <@Catonic> it's just impossible to replace.
18:51 <@tzanger> but you'd want to replace it... why?
18:52 <@Catonic> laptops are hard enough to get data in and out of...
18:52 <@tzanger> the 7984 I should clean up and ebay
18:52 <@Catonic> I can't find a picture of that beastie
18:52 <@tzanger> full set of manuals and the keyboard too
18:53 <@Catonic> im out
18:53 <@Catonic> gotta exercise.
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19:32 <@sdodson> I'll be your whatever you want, the bong in this reggae song.
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19:45 < Synx_hm> my f'ign ipod keeps going read only
19:46 < Synx_hm> wtf
19:46 <@brimstone> better than write only
19:46 < Synx_hm> cept i got .rockbox half deleted
19:46 < Synx_hm> fuck
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20:32 <@brimstone> ok, someone explain to me how sci-fi sheilds on spaceships work
20:33 < ware> brimstones drunk
20:34 <@unixfag> LOL
20:38 < ware> http://bp1.blogger.com/_TVfEjAyW4Fk/RalN8owoDnI/AAAAAAAAA7M/c__AWYzWEZo/s320/203568282_5fbc3fd001.jpg
20:39 <@polerin> brimstone: which universe :P
20:39 <@sdodson> <@Nugget> http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4644102  <-- the Programmer Heiracrchy
20:41 <@polerin> heh
20:41 <@polerin> yeah cus php "scripters" don't know anything :)
20:42 <@sasquatc4> i would think java should be a bit higher, but that looks about right
20:44 <@polerin> yeah I think java considers itself above php
20:44 <@sdodson> if you're not doing oo you're doing it wrong!
20:44 <@polerin> hehe
20:44 <@polerin> Well, the "scripters" thing was directed at both OO people like me and non-OO php
20:45 <@brimstone> sdodson, i got that hanging on my wall in the office
20:45 <@sasquatc4> blegh, oo
20:47  * polerin takes OO and shoves it up sasquatch'es nose
20:49 <@sasquatc4> noooo
20:51 <@polerin> hah!
20:57 <@sasquatc4> anyone know of any places online that sell storage towers, lookin for something like this, http://www.cooldrives.com/qubaysatousb.html
20:58 <@sasquatc4> had been looking at addonics, but their usb2 solutions only take ide drives for now
21:01 < ware> http://www.christophehuet.com/
21:01 < ware> case yall missed it
21:04 <@sdodson> ware: what's that?
21:11 < ware> that?
21:11 < ware> its called a Uniform Resource Locator, a vital part of the intarwebs
21:15 < ware> ipod speakers from amazon finally came in the mail, 2 1/2 weeks later
21:22  * Catonic returns
21:25 <@dasunt> I'm here!
21:27  * ware toasts w/dasunt
21:27 <@Catonic> I am addicted to beer.
21:28 <@dasunt> Gin, 'tis cheaper.
21:31 < Synx_hm> i dont wana pack anymore
21:31 < Synx_hm> :(
21:34 <@dasunt> Don't then.
21:34 <@Catonic> no, I just really like the taste of beer lately.
21:35 <@Catonic> hey dasunt -- you're gonna get snow
21:40 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNDGxzcbO2w
21:46 <@dasunt> Catonic: I know, and I have to shovel it.
21:46 <@dasunt> No hot sexy thing is at home to warm me up with hot chocolate and sex.
21:46 <@Catonic> who's fault is that?
21:46 <@Catonic> getcha ass up and get out
21:47 <@dasunt> I want a hot young sexy thang which isn't psycho.
21:48 <@Catonic> she's out there somewhere, trying to avoid creepy guys
21:48 <@Catonic> the creepy guys are out there... why aren't you?
21:48 <@sdodson> dasunt: they have laws about shoveling sidewalks?
21:50 <@dasunt> ZWhat do you mean?
21:52 <@dasunt> Also, I am the creepy guy leering at them.
21:52 <@dasunt> ::p
21:52 <@Catonic> so don't be creepy. Walk up and ask them something.
21:54 <@I-MOD> or stalk well enough as to not be seen
21:55 <@dasunt> Catonic: Don't be myself then.
21:55 <@Catonic> hey, you can be yourself... how was that working for you again?
21:56 <@dasunt> Catonic: I haven't sold out yet.
21:56 <@Catonic> it's not selling out... it's buying in..
21:56 <@dasunt> It is either suicide of the self, or lonliness.
21:57 <@Catonic> you don't kill yourself in the process of becoming a social person
21:57 <@Catonic> you just get over your anxiety and fucking approach.
21:57 <@Catonic> n/m
21:57 <@Catonic> I'm done.
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21:58 <@dasunt> Nah.
21:58 <@dasunt> I think I'd kill myself.
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22:34 <@someninjamaster> evening all
22:54 <@brimstone> hi
23:14 <@someninjamaster> whats up brimstone
23:14 <@brimstone> hi someninjamaster
23:14 <@brimstone> not much
23:14 <@brimstone> cleaned off my desk
23:15 <@brimstone> rearranged 'puters
23:19 <@sdodson> some of us aren't as leet as you and only have but one computer!
23:19 <@brimstone> just make some virtual machines and mv files around
23:21 <@sdodson> merely installing kde4 crashed my machine
23:21  * sdodson wonders what's in store when he actually runs it
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