--- Log opened Wed Dec 19 00:00:48 2007
00:19 <@dasunt> Bah.
00:19 <@dasunt> Fuck it all.
00:19 <@dasunt> I think it is time to get gasoline and some matches and let it burn.
00:23 <@sasquatc4> there wouldnt happen to be any pci -> something adapters out there that would let you hook up a pci card to a laptop would there?
00:24 <@dasunt> To do what?
00:24 <@dasunt> Also, couldn't some docks do that?
00:24 <@sasquatc4> tryin to see if there is a way to hookup the soundcard from my desktop into the laptop
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00:25 <@dasunt> A USB soundcard is probably cheaper.
00:25 <@dasunt> Else, leenucks fun and networked sound.
00:26 <@sasquatc4> well most of the usb soundcards fairly suck for doin audio work, but i may still be able to find one with good asio support and what not, just wasnt sure if an adapter existed
00:27 <@dasunt> I still think a decent USB sound card will be cheaper than a converter, if one exists.
00:28 <@dasunt> OTOH, I'm told that some of the removable card standards for laptops are more or less versions of PCI/PCI-Express.
00:28 <@sasquatc4> yah, probably, but the good ones generally run at least 150, and thats for a decent low end to do audio stuff on
00:28 <@sasquatc4> yea, see i have a pcmcia audigy card, but since pcmcia isnt in use anymore, that card becomes junk now
00:28 <@dasunt> Send it to me.
00:28 <@brimstone> http://www.magma.com/products/pci/1PCI/index.html
00:29 <@sasquatc4> sweet
00:29 <@sasquatc4> holy crap, 1k
00:30  * brimstone rubs his fingers together
00:30 <@dasunt> And you bitched about $150.
00:30 <@sasquatc4> hehe
00:30 <+coil> dasunt: fuck yeah
00:30 <+coil> you think driving your own car around pays for its self
00:31 <@dasunt> coil: What are you talking about?  Seriously.  I'm a tad drunk.
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00:31 <+coil> 20%
00:32 <@wontonjoe> 20% my ass
00:32 <@dasunt> Ah, okay.
00:32 <@dasunt> Yah, bullshit.
00:32 <@dasunt> 10%.
00:32 <@dasunt> Yes, I'm a stingy Mesabi Ranger.
00:33 <+coil> ya fuck you all
00:34 <+coil> let me go drive my car into the ground
00:34 <@wontonjoe> i just joined the channel and responded for no good reason, glad to see it worked out
00:34 <@brimstone> sup wontonjoe
00:35 <@wontonjoe> ill have to ponder that one and get back to you brimstone
00:35 <@brimstone> kk
00:35 <@wontonjoe> im moving into a house in a few days
00:35 <@wontonjoe> found a 2 story 1100 sq ft two bedroom two bath house for 500 a month
00:36 <@brimstone> lose a bet?
00:37 <@wontonjoe> not that i know of why?
00:37 <@brimstone> 20% my ass
00:37 <@wontonjoe> oh
00:38 <@wontonjoe> i was just giving an obligitory response to the first thing i saw when i joined
00:38 <@wontonjoe> even if i dont know what it was about
00:38  * brimstone mixes in some mint and pours wontonjoe a nice tall glass of confusion
00:39 <@wontonjoe> heh i have mint green tea tonight
00:39 <@wontonjoe> that and red rock cola
00:39 <@wontonjoe> im putting in 59 hours by thursday this week
00:39 <@brimstone> over how many days?
00:39 <@juice> hi wontonjoe
00:40 <@wontonjoe> hi
00:41 <@wontonjoe> our weeks go fri-thursday, so last friday till this coming friday morning, i get paid for part of fri since im third
00:41 <@wontonjoe> after the weekend im only doing 7 hours a night for the next three nights
00:42 <@brimstone> so... 7 days?
00:46 <@wontonjoe> lets see... i did thursday 11p-6a friday 11-9am sat11pm-9am sun11pm-8-am teusday 11pm-6am wednesday 11pm-6am and thursday 11pm-6am
00:46 <@wontonjoe> i think its eight days
00:47 <@wontonjoe> then i get to work my normal fri-sun shift at 12 hours a night right after thursday
00:57 <@wontonjoe> woah
00:57 <@wontonjoe> woah
00:57 <@wontonjoe> haow
00:57 <@wontonjoe> waho
00:57 <@juice> lack of sleep is already getting to you
00:57 <@wontonjoe> hawo
00:57 <@wontonjoe> yes, yes indeed
00:58 <@wontonjoe> youtube is fucking cheezy
01:01 <@wontonjoe> a video editor and and a camera...  a few minutes later your a loser with a face
01:07 <@brimstone> i have a face
01:07 <@brimstone> anyway
01:07 <@brimstone> anyone here have a treo 680?
01:09  * brimstone guess not
01:10 <@wontonjoe> you might be just what were looking for brimstone
01:13 <@wontonjoe> time to get out the ol macbook
01:13 <@brimstone> 5you have an old macbook?
01:14 <@wontonjoe> #macbook says hi, but misses lisa, poor apple, see apple cry, bust lcd see apple run
01:14 <@wontonjoe> no my macbook came out in november
01:14 <@wontonjoe> im using ol as a term of endearment of sorts
01:15 <@wontonjoe> i emulated mac on a pc, now i get to emulate pc on a mac
01:29 <@wontonjoe> hmm in 2003 55 gallon drums of crystal pepsi were found in a storm gutter in denver
01:29 <@brimstone> don't tell strages
01:35 <@wontonjoe> i loved that stuff
01:47 <@brimstone> anyone know if CVG has free wifi?
01:47  * brimstone has a 1:45 layover tomorrow
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02:11 <@wontonjoe> uh oh brimstone is on the move
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02:31 < wsmith> on a scale from 1 to 10, I am so drunk
02:32 <+coil> will smith?
02:32 < wsmith> what up bitches!
02:33 < wsmith> wait. that's not something he would say
02:33  * wsmith thinks of something. fast.
02:33 < wsmith> I got nothing.
02:33 <+coil> i was getting drunk earlyer
02:33 <+coil> but then i was destracted by driving roommate to jack in the box
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02:34 <+coil> and i coudln
02:34 <+coil> t finsih my beer on the way back (too short of a trip)
02:34 < wsmith_> at least I can still type ;-)
02:34 <+coil> yeah my fumble hands are suxoring right nwo
02:34 < wsmith_> it's so hard to find keys when inebriated
02:35 <+coil> it's so hard to find the right keys :P
02:35 < wsmith_> but my hands seem to find nsfw.reddit.com so easy
02:37 < wsmith_> meh. I lost. Time for bed.
02:37 <+coil> pfft pussyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
02:37 <+coil> I Wish U Would
02:38 < wsmith_> no more liquor in the house :-(
02:38 <+coil> awww
02:38 < wsmith_> tell me about it
02:39 < wsmith_> well, there is the "secret" jameson stash
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05:08 <@wontonjoe> one hour till go home time
05:16 <+coil> yiff
07:16 <@sdodson> Was that will smith?!
07:42 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0 h0 h0ez!
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08:06 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig, just as a heads up, telesynergy would probably be pissed if we reverse-engineered their fake channel bank as they also sell real channel banks
08:06 <@I-MOD> :D
08:06  * I-MOD kicks switchvox
08:15 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: woot
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08:30 <@dasunt> Mother, I don't want to go to school today!
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08:48 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
08:48 <@Dolemite> w00f
08:49 <@I-MOD> god today feels like a monday
08:49 <@SkyDog_> It is, isn't it?
08:49 <@SkyDog_> Shit.
08:49 <@SkyDog_> It's wednesday.
08:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Doesn't feel like it to me
08:50  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
08:50 <@Corydon76-dig> although I do suspect some workplaces are starting to become somewhat of a ghost town, as people start using up their vacation days before the end of the year.
08:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Hence why I won't be coming down to Digium again until after the new year
08:57 <@SkyDog_> Look, I just won the UK LOTTERY
08:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, without even entering
08:58 <@I-MOD> what a coincidence! me too!
08:59 <@SkyDog_> Fucker!
09:04 <@seeblind> morning everybody
09:05 <@Corydon76-dig> morning, seeblind
09:05 <@seeblind> heya, Corydon76-dig  what is happening
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09:07 <@Corydon76-dig> seeblind: starting to feel the holiday sluggishness
09:08 <@seeblind> http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/marketwire/0334996.htm
09:08 <@seeblind> ~minilink
09:08 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/cnn.com/HYvZB.htm
09:09 <@seeblind> Corydon76-dig: yeah, same here, don't expect any billable hours until after new year.
09:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Here's part of what I did yesterday (SFW):  http://svn.digium.com/view/asterisk/trunk/main/asterisk.c?r1=93803&r2=93805
09:10 <@Corydon76-dig> There's humor there, if you can find it
09:11  * I-MOD saw that commit yesterday
09:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Serious functionality, though
09:13 <@SkyDog_> Anyone got any good info on making BartPe disks? Rather, can you point a brother in a direction to keep him from wasting a few hours?
09:14 <@Corydon76-dig> I was considering add "He fucking snuffed it!" to the end, but marketing doesn't like having the word "snuff" in the source
09:14 <@Corydon76-dig> (or in the logs, for that matter)
09:18 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: you want to build one from scratch or just use existing one?
09:19 <@SkyDog_> both, if you have em...
09:19 <@I-MOD> marketing needs to stuff a sock in it
09:19 <@SkyDog_> I just want a current tutorial, one that isn't too deep.
09:19 <@I-MOD> or snuff a sock in it
09:20 <@seeblind> I have a disk at the house, I assume you have already been to: (SFW) http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
09:21 < ware> yay sick day
09:21 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: what are you trying to do
09:21 < ware> actually work from home day, but it could be worse
09:22 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: We need to make a bootable disc to run retrospect from.
09:22 < ware> why dont ya watch the phreaknix preso irongeek did
09:24 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: then you will need to build your own disk from scratch.
09:27 <@seeblind> why run retrospect of boot CD, if you make a change to the backup job you will ahve to create a new CD every time.
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09:32 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: For restore. Not my gig, I am working on it for a guy here.
09:32 <@SkyDog_> I would use Ghost. He's got some aversion to it.
09:33 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Perhaps the presentation from IronGeek at PNX would be of help
09:34 <@Dolemite> dood!  Firefox 3 Beta 2 totally stole our PhreakNIC 0x0b artwork idea!
09:34 <@SkyDog_> Ok ok! I will watch it! :P
09:34 <@Dolemite> http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b2/whatsnew/
09:34 <@SkyDog_> COPYLEFT infringment!
09:34 < ware> lol lame
09:37 <@seeblind> Maybe they are fans
09:39 < ware> so i got my thinkgeek stuff finally last night
09:39 < ware> after the hooplah of the neighbors signing for it and keeping  and me going over there and leaving a note, i was about to goto bed at 915 so i went to check and see if they were home yet
09:39 < ware> my package is sitting on the sidewalk next to the parking lot out in the open
09:40 < ware> just hanging out for anyone to come by and take lol
09:46 <@dc0de> ware so did it have dog piss on it?
09:47 < ware> haha nah
09:48 <@seeblind> so, your neigbors don't like you
09:53 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:53 < baudburn> critch: you around?
09:54 < baudburn> or anyone else who's knowledgable of ruby
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10:00 <@dc0de> baudburn I know they're red.
10:01 <@Dolemite> 'tis the season for more tins of Christie Cookies sent by vendors!
10:03 <@SkyDog_> send some to my office!
10:08 <@someninjamaster> we get ham and truffles
10:08 <@someninjamaster> we never get any cookies
10:15  * someninjamaster wants some cookies
10:28  * Evilpig wants a workstation with more than 256MB of ram
10:28 <@Evilpig> i'm tempted to shut one of these other comptuers in the library down just so I can steal the ram from it to make this not run like a piece of ass
10:29 <@Evilpig> it's bogged down running 1 java applet, 2 java apps and a small install program
10:42 <@critch> baudburn: I am now
10:43 < baudburn> critch: nm, i got it taken care of :) thanks though
10:43 < baudburn> figured out that ruby has an "eval" cmmand
10:44 <@critch> yep, and depending on what you need, yield works well also
10:44 < baudburn> yeah, i needed to interpret a string as a ruby command
10:44 < baudburn> i'm starting to dig ruby
10:44 <@critch> ruby rocks, especially when you understand yield
10:45 < baudburn> yeah, yield is simple, but hella cool
10:49 <@critch> anyone familiar with a colo in Cummins Station?
10:53 <@Dolemite> I've heard about it, only to know that it's teeny tiny.
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10:54 <@critch> Okay, that to me would be another strike against them. The price tag they quoted my boss makes me concerned. They want to tell us that Sungard/Inflow is having problems, yet they quote "equivalent" service at under half the cost.
10:54 < baudburn> critch: you use ruby a lot?
10:55 <@critch> I try to, working out of perl
10:55 < baudburn> working out of?
10:55 <@critch> trying to stop using it
10:55 < baudburn> critch: ahh, yes, i seem to like it a lot more than perl
10:55 < baudburn> and so far, with yeild, more than python..
10:55 < baudburn> though python is pretty great too
10:56 <@Dolemite> Good lord, it just keeps going on and on and on...  Britney Spears' 16 year old sister is pregnant.
10:56 <@critch> I love the whole modify "core" classes at run time
10:56 < baudburn> yeah, though that's both powerful and dangerous
10:56 <@critch> We have a monkey patch for hash that makes hash keys into methods
10:57 < baudburn> nice
10:57 <@critch> such that (hash[:foo] = bar) == (hash.foo = bar)
10:58 < baudburn> any suggestions on how best to get at documentation?
10:58 < baudburn> ruby-doc.org is great, but its kid of hard to navigate for me
10:58 <@critch> documentation for what?
10:58 < baudburn> the language in general
10:59 <@critch> for the language in general I use http://www.ruby-doc.org/core/
10:59 <@critch> also http://www.ruby-doc.org/stdlib/
10:59 < baudburn> yeah, it just seems a bit hard to navigate
11:00 <@critch> I guess that depends on what you are after, and how well you know the classes already.
11:01 < baudburn> right, but since i'm starting, id on't really know the classes
11:01 <@critch> have you read any of Why's stuff?
11:01 < baudburn> since i don't know what that is, i guess not
11:02 <@critch> let me see if I can dig up some of his writings
11:02 <@critch> http://poignantguide.net/ruby/
11:04 < baudburn> lol, wow
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11:24 <@Evilpig> I am the winnar!  Next time any of you see Dementia  make sure to rub it in that I won.
11:25 <@nachoguy> what are we supposed to rub on dementia?
11:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Boy Butter
11:25 <@nachoguy> salt+pepper+cloves?
11:26 <@Shadow_Phone> garlic?
11:27 <@nachoguy> I tend to not rub garlic on, but cook the cloves whole
11:27 <@Evilpig> none of hte above.  defeat at the hands of pig
11:27 <@nachoguy> sometimes minced
11:28 <@Shadow_Phone> what do u rub on pork?
11:33 <@nachoguy> usually I do salt and pepper, sear all sides and then slow cook it in it's own juices.
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11:33 <@nachoguy> It gets real tender and falls right off the bone
11:41 <@Shadow_Phone> is this true Evilpig?
11:43 <@nachoguy> he can't talk, he's fallen off his bones
11:44 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
11:49 <@ladymerlin> anyone seen shadowhunter today?
11:50 <@Evilpig> ladymerlin: he was at the emergency room.  he had to get uhhhh... sick.
11:50 <@ladymerlin> apperently
11:50 <@ladymerlin> i hope they give him good drugs cause hes got no more job
11:50 <@ladymerlin> of course he dosetn know yet
11:51 <@nachoguy> poor guy
11:51 <@ladymerlin> he has to either call or show up to be told
11:51 <@nachoguy> wait, he's out on sick leave and he got terminated?
11:51 <@ladymerlin> no
11:51 < ware> i thought he was fired like awhile back
11:51 <@ladymerlin> hes not on sick leave
11:51 <@nachoguy> oh
11:51 <@ladymerlin> he jsut decideds that hes sick and cant come in
11:51 <@nachoguy> ah, well, that's a different problem
11:51 <@ladymerlin> hell he hasent even been here ong enough to go on sick leave
11:53 <@GodFix> Whatever happens in #se2600 stays in #se2600, right?
11:53 <@Evilpig> tell them to just stop paying him.  he'll figure it out
11:54 <@Evilpig> or he'll go nuts steal a red stapler and burn the building down
11:54 <@Evilpig> it really is 50/50
11:55 <@ladymerlin> hell he didnt get a paycheck last time
11:55 <@ladymerlin> since he didnt show up for 2 weeks
11:56 <@Evilpig> hrmm dunno what to say to that
11:56  * Evilpig stomps on ladymerlin's toe and runs off
11:58  * nachoguy hands ladymerlin a pork seeking missile launcher
12:01  * ladymerlin shoots Evilpig 
12:05 <@dc0de> whoa ladymerlin watch where you point that thing!
12:08 <@Evilpig> oh dc0de.  you know she is just using a bad shot in my direction to get her real target
12:08  * baudburn runs away
12:09 <@dc0de> that was some pork seeking missile... singed my eyebrows...
12:11 <@dc0de> sup baudburn
12:11 <@nachoguy> dc0de, did it leak some marinade on you?
12:11 <@dc0de> wanna agree on something today?
12:11 <@nachoguy> it's pinapple teriaki
12:11 <@dc0de> nachoguy I just got back from washing it off... it was a friggin mess.
12:11 < baudburn> dc0de: human's breath air
12:11 <@dc0de> baudburn you're talking out your ass.
12:12  * ladymerlin waves at baudburn 
12:12 <@Evilpig> fuck.  now I have to agree with dc0de.  baudburn you're full of shit
12:12 <@dc0de> baudburn humans breath pollution
12:12 <@dc0de> haha pig
12:12 < baudburn> op me
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12:13 <@rattle> Argh.  I've got the fucking plague.
12:13 < baudburn> ok, now that we have that out of the way
12:13 <@dc0de> heh
12:13 <@dc0de> rattle, the plague? kick ass..
12:14 <@dc0de> rattle, perhaps it's the plaque?
12:14 < baudburn> grammar + punctuation, ftw
12:14 <@nachoguy> you know what cures the plague?  cement shoes
12:14 <@rattle> plague rather.. yeah.
12:14 <@Evilpig> baudburn: authenticate
12:14 <@dc0de> nachoguy lead poisoning
12:14 <@rattle> I'm sick and unhappy.
12:15 <@nachoguy> I'm just unhappy
12:15 <@dc0de> rattle, go to the dr. and get prednisone, then you'll be like me, Sick and Happy!!!
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12:15 <@baudburn> dc0de: you're neither sick, nor happy
12:16 <@nachoguy> baudburn, dc0de, Pi is exactly 3
12:16 <@dc0de> actually baudburn I have a severe infection in my left mastoid cell behind my ear, and I'm on steriods that are mood elevating... so I'm really happy... I'm smiling while typing this... :)
12:16 <@baudburn> oh burn..
12:16 <@dc0de> I can't help it.
12:16  * baudburn trys not to kick nachoguy for that one
12:16 <@Dolemite> Ok, pray for my soul.  I'm upgrad^H^H^H^H^H^Hinstalling Office 2007.
12:17  * dc0de prays for Dolemite as he draws the pentagram of satan on his laptop
12:17 <@baudburn> dc0de: nice.  dude, you're 'roiding
12:17 <@dc0de> Dolemite but WHY???
12:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Might you think about installing OpenOffice at the same time?
12:17 <@Dolemite> I need InfoPath and OneNote.
12:17  * baudburn doesn't believe in prayer.
12:17 <@dc0de> baudburn yeah, and it's not rage...
12:17 <@Dolemite> I already have OpenOffice, which has no correlary to the two applications that I just listed.
12:18 <@baudburn> dc0de: you said you were a body builder back in teh day, right?
12:18 <@dc0de> baudburn no, not a body builder, a power lifter... much different.
12:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Those aren't steroids, they're HGH
12:18 <@Dolemite> baudburn : In college he built his girlfriend out of a mop handle and a tub of peanut butter.
12:18 <@Dolemite> Oh, wait, different kind of body building.
12:18 <@dc0de> baudburn I never did the oil up and pose thing...
12:19 <@dc0de> power lifting is more like the worlds strongest man stuff...
12:19 <@baudburn> dc0de: nah, i know.. but i wanted to query some of your knowledge
12:19 <@dc0de> whatcha need?
12:19 <@Dolemite> dc0de : Never mention 'oil up' when Corydon is in the room.
12:19  * dc0de smacks himself in the forehead... 
12:19 <@dc0de> doh, sorry.
12:19  * Corydon76-dig passes the Boy Butter
12:19  * dc0de passes it to ladymerlin 
12:20 <@baudburn> i'm starting to go to the gym every weekday for lunch.. so i'm setting up a routine where tues + thursday is cardio, and mwf is 2 muscle groups
12:20 <@dc0de> ladymerlin would you please dispose of this?
12:20 <@baudburn> bi/tri, etc
12:20 <@dc0de> baudburn what is your goal? strength or fitness?
12:20 <@baudburn> dc0de: both, and flexibility.. not looking to bulk up, just increase my power to weight ratio
12:21 <@Evilpig> bah.  stupid apache and permissions.  I have one line fucking me and I can't figure out what it is
12:21 <@baudburn> that brings me to my question
12:21 <@baudburn> each lifting day, i'm doing 2 exercises in each of 2 muscle groups
12:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Speaking of which, I have a date on Friday
12:22 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: If you plan on attending the Nashville 2600 Holiday Lunch, plz RSVP to Dolemite
12:22 <@baudburn> the question is, will doing 4 sets of 12 achieve that goal?
12:22 <@dc0de> baudburn yes and no...
12:23 <@baudburn> first 3 are at a lighter weight, and then the 4th i bring it up so i can do about 8
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12:23 < ware> i haz rsvpeed
12:23 <@baudburn> lighter but still hard.. that is
12:25 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: do you need an email or is this good enough?
12:26 <@Dolemite> email preferred
12:26 <@Corydon76-dig> What'd we say, the 29th?
12:27 <@Evilpig> 21st
12:27 <@Dolemite> 29th @ 2 PM
12:29 <@Evilpig> 21st at 10pm
12:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Hmmm, if the date on Friday goes well, I might need to bring her
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12:35 <@Dolemite> her or him?
12:36 < ware> hai
12:37 < ware> Corydon76-dig: date and her?
12:37 < ware> are you coming to natures correct side of the force?
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12:43 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: I've always said I'm bi
12:43 <@dc0de> everybody loves you when you're bi
12:43 <@Evilpig> damn you apache!!!!!  Directory index forbidden by rule
12:44 <+coil> Corydon76-dig: how is 80/20 bi?
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12:44 <@Corydon76-dig> coil: she was born male
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12:44 <+coil> uhh
12:44 <+coil> like that makes it any better
12:45 <@Corydon76-dig> What?
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12:45 <+coil> does she have a prostate?
12:45 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't think so anymore.  She's a cancer survivor
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> How much will it fuck up ware that she's better looking than kho?
12:48 <+coil> pics or gtfo!111
12:48 <@Corydon76-dig> not until after our date
12:49 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: does it really take much to be better looking than kho?
12:49 <@Evilpig> pretty sure "she" could show up with a 5'oclock shadow and still be safe
12:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
12:50 <@Corydon76-dig> I haven't seen a pic of your gf, either, Pig
12:50 <+coil> ouch burn
12:51 <@Evilpig> if I as at home.  i'd hold my hand up in front of the camera for you.  so for now you will just have to remember what it looks like
12:55 <@Corydon76-dig> I think we might could build one for you, using only a mop and peanut better
13:05 <@Evilpig> Corydon76-dig: if there is no duct tape involved there is no deal
13:08 <@Corydon76-dig> So we need to hogtie you with duct tape?
13:08 <@Dolemite> he wants the adhesive to give him extra friction on the downstroke
13:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Thought that was what the peanut butter was for
13:09 <@Dolemite> Not unless you use extra crunchy
13:10 <@Corydon76-dig> We can get out the natural peanut butter and drain off the oil...
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13:14 <@someninjamaster> afternoon all
13:15 <@someninjamaster> dolemite ping
13:15 <@Dolemite> someninjamaster pong
13:15 <@someninjamaster> im in for the lunch
13:15 <@someninjamaster> with one other person
13:15 <@Dolemite> then send me an email, as stated in the minutes from the meeting :P
13:16 <@someninjamaster> i didnt get any minutes
13:16 <@Dolemite> you must not be signed up for the mailing list
13:16 <@Dolemite> which means you aren't invited!@#%!@#$
13:16 <@someninjamaster> well fuck you all
13:17 <@Dolemite> yeah!  fuck all of us!
13:17 <@Dolemite> er, wait
13:17 <@SkyDog_> I got my RSVP in! (12 seconds ago)
13:17 <@brimstone> plane leaves in 20 :D
13:17 <@brimstone> ww
13:17 <+coil> no brimstone
13:18  * brimstone hits coil with a turning machine
13:18  * coil turns the machine against brimstone 
13:19 <@Shadow_Phone> woah, holiday lunch?
13:19 <@someninjamaster> where is the lunch
13:19 <@someninjamaster> so that i might smite you all
13:20 <@Dolemite> go sign up for the mailing list and I will tell youz
13:20 <@someninjamaster> i should be i used to get the meeting minutes
13:21 <@Dolemite> well then you can log on to look at the archives
13:21 <@someninjamaster> ok ill look when im back on the ground
13:21 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: You're going to lose the argument.
13:21 <@someninjamaster> yep
13:22 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : How was your nooner?
13:23 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: I have a mark on my back from the side mirror from getting a blowjob between cars in the parking lot.
13:24 <@Dolemite> But did you leave a mark on her?  That's the important question.
13:25 <@Dolemite> Or him
13:25 <@Dolemite> don't want to force a stereotype on you
13:25 <@SkyDog_> I dickslapped her forehead when I was done. I was unable to manage the dirty sanchez. i tried.
13:25 <@Dolemite> loser
13:25 <@someninjamaster> you suck
13:25 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Yeah, like you have a clue.
13:26 <@someninjamaster> im just in a bad mood because i have been stuck up here for an hour now
13:26 <@SkyDog_> where?
13:27 <@someninjamaster> on the top shelf of a 10' shelf
13:27 <@Dolemite> wtf?
13:27 <@someninjamaster> entering in bin info
13:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Someone move the ladder?
13:30 <@someninjamaster> no just entering info
13:31 <@someninjamaster> and discovering lots of stuff that other people haven't been doing
13:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Big surprise
13:31 <@someninjamaster> not a suprise that they didnt do stuff
13:32 <@someninjamaster> just supprised at how little they actually did
13:32 <@Corydon76-dig> You discovering things with an expiration date of 1962?
13:32 <@someninjamaster> no just shit that never got entered into the system
13:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Fell off the back of a truck
13:33 <@someninjamaster> we are moving to a bin based system
13:33 <@someninjamaster> so im entering in the bin info so i know its right
13:33 <@someninjamaster> nd half this stuff is not in the system at all
13:34 <@someninjamaster> i dont know how it even got ordered
13:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, I got my niece a tickle me elmo, and less than a day later, her parents are threatening to stuff a sock in its mouth
13:35 <@Corydon76-dig> My sister is going to kill me
13:35 <@Dolemite> she'll lose interest in a couple of weeks
13:35 <@Corydon76-dig> She loves Elmo, though
13:35 <@Shadow_Phone> your allowed around small kids?
13:36 <+coil> ahhaahah
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13:36 <@someninjamaster> haha
13:36 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
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13:39 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
13:41 -!- Shadow_Phone was kicked from #se2600 by someninjamaster [3 ftw]
13:42 <@I-MOD> yay kickfest!
13:42 <+coil> 13:42:58 [freenode2] -!- #se2600 You need to be a channel operator to do that
13:42 <+coil> awww :98
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13:45 <@someninjamaster> w00t back on the grounf
13:45 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o coil] by Dolemite
13:45 <@Dolemite> there you go, coil
13:45 <@Shadow_Phone> oh, come on, just a well timed comment
13:45 -!- Shadow_Phone was kicked from #se2600 by coil [yay]
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13:45 <@Dolemite> heh
13:45 <+coil> :(
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13:45 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
13:46 <@Shadow_Phone> coil loses ops
13:46 <@someninjamaster> coil tasted it for but a moment
13:46 <@Shadow_Phone> yep
13:46 <+coil> it was worth it
13:46 <@Shadow_Phone> i kick him now in #ware
13:46 <@Dolemite> but he showed good judgement in that brief time
13:46 <@Shadow_Phone> true
14:00  * someninjamaster yawns
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14:04 <@someninjamaster> sup catonic
14:05 <@Catonic> http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/19/spears.sister.ap/index.html
14:05 <@Catonic> britney's little sister is knocked up...
14:05 <@Catonic> "spears" is the celebrity white-trash family of the decade.
14:05 <@someninjamaster> knocked up at 16
14:05 <@Catonic> she's gonna lose her jerb at nick
14:05 <@Shadow_Phone> hope so
14:05 <@someninjamaster> thats the only thing missing from brittneys tralier trash family
14:06 <@Shadow_Phone> and theat hannah montana trash too
14:06 <@Shadow_Phone> hope she gets caught doing coke in the bathroom or soemthing
14:07 <@Dolemite> Shadow_Phone harbors a hatred of Hannah Montana?  Is it because she gets the attention of all the 12 year old girls instead of him?
14:07 <@Shadow_Phone> oh wow, that was low
14:07 <@Catonic> look, just because Shadow took an SNL skit to heart for his dating life...
14:08 <@Shadow_Phone> hahah, which one could that possibly be?
14:08 <@Catonic> if it's not scottish, it's crap!
14:08 <@baudburn> dc0de: the sky is green
14:08 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, nice
14:09 <@Catonic> I think I'm going to make a shirt that says "blow me, I'm phillipino."
14:10 <@nachoguy> catonic, let me know how that works out for you
14:12 <@seeblind> her mom was had a parenting book deal in the works.  That is now shelved.
14:14 <@someninjamaster> of course who wanted parenting advice from her
14:15 <@Catonic> how to get filthy rich by whoring your kids out
14:15 <@nachoguy> quasi nsfw  http://qdb.us/120329
14:16 <@Catonic> http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/23123
14:17 <@Catonic> http://qdb.us/29009
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14:41 <@tzanger> 12 year old girls?  My 8 year old daughter is hooked on her
14:44 <@I-MOD> phonics?
14:52 <@tzanger> ha
14:53 <@tzanger> no, hannah montanna
14:53 <@tzanger> I have no idea what the hell she does besides cause my daughter to chatter incessantly
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15:22 <@Catonic> wow...
15:22 <@Catonic> that's actually a decent song...
15:22 <@Catonic> until andrew edilrich opens his mouth
15:25 <@Catonic> temple of love - sisters of mercy
15:27 <@critch> SFW, and programmers too... http://data.tumblr.com/oxrhwNlej35ulcg0KkoOVOJm_400.jpg
15:29 <@nachoguy> critch, I uhh, don't get it
15:30 <@nachoguy> I understand the bug/feature/sometimes a bug is a feature thing, but none of that seems to apply
15:32 <@critch> maybe it is just my fucked up world right now that found a bug dressed up being listed as a feature was funny
15:33 <@Catonic> ps: kiss my ass; dick is a killer.
15:38 <@Corydon76-dig> So you've had dick now, Catonic?
15:38 <@nachoguy> critch, ahh, I think "dressed up as" is the key
15:38 <@nachoguy> without that phrase, it doesn't work
15:39 <@Corydon76-dig> nachoguy: A properly documented bug is a feature; didn't you know that?
15:39 <@baudburn> critch: posting on my wall
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15:40 <@critch> okay, so my world isn't so fucked up, nachoguy was just a little out of focus from me
15:40 <@nachoguy> corydon, not even that.  It doesn't have to be documented, it just has to be useful
15:40 <@nachoguy> I'm out of focus?
15:40 <@critch> nachoguy: useful to who?
15:41 <@nachoguy> "run, there's a large out of focus monster and he's running this way"
15:41 <@nachoguy> critch, users
15:41 <@critch> nachoguy: out of focus to me... reference points, not saying I am in focus either
15:41 <@nachoguy> critch, i know, i was just trying to set up the Mitch Hedberg joke
15:41 <@baudburn> i liked it.
15:41 <@critch> after yesterdays strangeness, I'm in a really strange funk.
15:42 <@critch> Odd set of feelings when you go to a funeral with people you usually are cutting up with. Then you do cutup before and after the funeral
15:46 <+coil> *BANG BANG BANG*
15:46 <+coil> wtf are they doing to my stairs
15:47  * critch is hammering the stairs next to coil to test the amount of noise he can make.
15:52 <@baudburn> *sigh*
15:52 <@baudburn> i can't tolerate people gossiping about famous people..
15:52 <+coil> the mexicans are putting a new post or something for my stairs
15:52 <@baudburn> particularly when i can't get away from them because it's at work.
15:53 <@baudburn> STFU, you don't know those people, and they don't give 2 shits about you
15:57  * coil stfus
15:57 <@baudburn> ya
16:01 <@Catonic> im amused at the whole situation
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16:30 <+coil> http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/10/hello_kitty_ak47_makes_you_loo.html ima go shoot up a school or something with that
16:30 <+coil> "i told u i was hardcore"!!!!
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16:31 <@GodFix> wow, i just got a quote for an EMX NS20 WITH 2x FC switches for $88K
16:32 <@SkyDog_> How much storage is that?
16:36 <@GodFix> 30x146 15K SA
16:36 <@GodFix> s/SA/SAS
16:36 <@SkyDog_> Um. What?
16:36 <@SkyDog_> how much total storage?
16:37 <@critch> 146gb drives x 30 drives
16:37 <@SkyDog_> Qty 30 of 146Gig SAS drives?
16:37 <@SkyDog_> how many cabinets? one?
16:38 <@GodFix> yeah, I think the whole thing is 15-18U
16:38 <@SkyDog_> 4.3 terabytes?
16:38 <@GodFix> that sounds right
16:38 <@SkyDog_> That's not even raided.
16:38 <@SkyDog_> Right at 4 terabytes for RAID 6.
16:38 <@GodFix> 4.2 in RAID5
16:39 <@SkyDog_> Um, I have a dual redundant system, meaning they are geographically seperate, with 28tb in each location for $55 grand.
16:39 <@GodFix> oh, sorry, 3.9 RAID 5
16:40 <@GodFix> yeah, but how much does your company spend with the vendor?
16:40 <@SkyDog_> None.
16:40 <@SkyDog_> This is straight pricing from CDW.
16:40 <@GodFix> send me a link
16:40 <@GodFix> this is from CDW too
16:41 <@SkyDog_> For $100/hour, I will. :)
16:41 <@critch> GodFix: what is your storage requirement?
16:42 <@GodFix> VMWare SQl Servers
16:42 <@GodFix> and standarad NAS lvl file shares
16:42 <@GodFix> but the big thing is the SQL performance
16:43 <@GodFix> as well as centralized storage
16:43 <@critch> Well, sounds like you need a solution that can let you subdivide up the storage to be configured differently.
16:43 <@GodFix> yeah, there's also a shelf of 15x750gb SATA
16:43 <@GodFix> doing tiered storage
16:43 <@critch> SQL would do well from some form of striping and replication, while filesotres would be just fine on RAID5
16:44 <@critch> is that a CoRaid box?
16:46 <@GodFix> i don't think so, at least not the way we are planning it yet, but that could change
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16:46 <@GodFix> setup a few RAID10 arrays on the SAS shelf, then mirror it to the 2nd SAS shelf
16:47 <@critch> You should look into a CoRaid box, the $4k one will hold 15 SATA drives of your choice, has hotswap drives, fans and PSUs.
16:48 <@critch> Add to that the drives show up as native block devices in windows, linux, solaris, and other open OSs
16:48 <@critch> I also like the ethernet connectivity instead of FC as gigabit hardware is much cheaper than FC hardware
16:49 <@critch> And with VMWare, you can then move your machines around as long as they are still connected to the same ethernet segment and they will still have access to the drives.
16:51 <@critch> We recently swapped to using harddrives in our coraid as our backup medium instead of tapes. lower per gig price, and it means our backup server isn't tied to specific hardware.
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16:55 <@critch> later
17:00 <@SkyDog_> I don't see a benefit to using SAS drives over enterprise level SATA.
17:01 <@SkyDog_> The system I came up with is the newest Promise array boxes, with 16 drives per box, running in raid 6.
17:01 <@SkyDog_> They take 1tb drives.
17:01 <@SkyDog_> With raid 6, you can lose two drives and still function.
17:02 <@SkyDog_> I figure that's better than raid 5 plus a hot spare, and if I lose 3 drives, I have a redundant copy across a gigabit link that is percolating along.
17:02 <@SkyDog_> a few keystrokes and it's then serving up files.
17:02 <@SkyDog_> So that's 28 tb in RAID 1, location seperated.
17:03 <@SkyDog_> and yes, it's Fibre Channel.
17:06 <@GodFix> Is that a Promise Technology VTE610fD SAN Ready RAID Features
17:07 <@SkyDog_> ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring ring Banana Phone!
17:07 <@SkyDog_> Yes, a VTE610fd and the J series 610f.
17:07 <@SkyDog_> Those two connect together for 32 drives worth.
17:07 <@SkyDog_> The vte has dual controllers, but they are failover style.
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17:08 <@SkyDog_> The controller in that box will access both enclosures, and utilize them as one collection of discs.
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17:08 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: Do you have time for a phone call in a min?
17:09 <@MudFlap> Yep, 244-8591
17:09 <@SkyDog_> K. callng in a min.
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17:31 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: didn't I suggest a promise?
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18:05 <@sdodson> promise deez nuts
18:05 <@sdodson> SkyDog_: location separated?
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18:06 <@sdodson> So did dagmar call that teacher and make a complete ass out of himself? I think he's ignoring me as he never answered when I asked.
18:21 <@nachoguy> sdodson, I do recall him saying that he did call a teacher/principal
18:22 <@Catonic> was she cute? does she have a sister?
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18:50 <@dc0de> http://www.comics.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert200712187306.jpg
18:50 <@dc0de> best dilbert ever!
18:51 <@tzanger> hahaha nice
18:57 <@tcstool> that's pretty good!
18:58 <@sdodson> nachoguy: lulz
18:58 <@sdodson> nachoguy: that's too funny
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19:11 <@dc0de> http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=158091&page=1
19:12 <@dc0de> this requires a free account, but it's well worth the laughs...
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19:29 <@Jagobah> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx
19:37 <@sdodson> my understanding is that acid2 is really a test of how a browser handles malformed html rather than how it handles standardized html
19:40 <@dc0de> This is a wicked looking knife
19:40 <@dc0de> https://www.kabar.com/product_detail.jsp?productNumber=1463&mode=category&categoryId=1,3,7,9&categoryName=All-Purpose/Utility
19:41 <@dc0de> ~minilink
19:41 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/kabar.com/7uEGS.jsp
19:41 <@dc0de> and this one
19:41 <@dc0de> ~minilink https://www.kabar.com/product_detail.jsp?productNumber=1247&mode=category&categoryId=1,2,3,7&categoryName=All-Purpose/Utility
19:41 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/kabar.com/x02Gf.jsp
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19:50  * coil sighs
19:51 <@dasunt> Sleep deprevation.  Or however it is spelled.
19:51 <+coil> no dascunt
20:12 <@dasunt> http://cgi.ebay.com/Drive-Someone-Insane-with-Postcards_W0QQitemZ320196148761QQihZ011QQcategoryZ45208QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
20:12 <@dasunt> ~minilink
20:12 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/ebay.com/UN7SR
20:12 <@dasunt> That is beautiful.
20:19 <+coil> hi dasunt
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21:41 <@sdodson> doot doot
21:41  * coil shits on sdodson 
21:41 <+coil> sorry, bipolar acting up
21:43 <@sdodson> bipolar and ibs?
21:46 <@Jagobah> ;x
21:46 <+coil> ibs?
21:46 <+coil> ya i have that too!! <shifty eyes>
21:48 <@Jagobah> Do you have medication for bipolar?
21:48 <+coil> no
21:49 <@Jagobah> then you don't really have bipolar
21:49 <+coil> i dont like meds
21:50 <@sdodson> meds are for hosers
21:50 <+coil> they make you dull and boring
21:55 <@sdodson> ya, you end up acting like coil
21:55 <+coil> would you want ware act or coil act?
21:55 <+coil> if those were the only two choice
21:56 <+coil>  s
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22:05 <@someninjamaster> evening all
22:06 <+coil> hi some nin ja master
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22:08 <+coil> unixfag: hi
22:13 <@dc0de> Very interesting introspective test... http://www.politicalcompass.org/test
22:26 <@sasquatc4> aww, im spot on with gandhi
22:37 <@Corydon76-dig> sasquatc4: I'm on with the Dalai Lama
22:39 <@someninjamaster>  wow
22:39 <@sasquatc4> nice
22:40 <@someninjamaster> im closest to the palastinian president
22:40 <@someninjamaster> and the pope
22:41 <@someninjamaster> im a commie fasist
22:41 <@someninjamaster> i question this test
22:42 <@Corydon76-dig> A left authoritarian?
22:42 <@someninjamaster> yeah
22:42 <@Corydon76-dig> You'll probably drift my way as you get older
22:42 <@someninjamaster> unless my feeling on social issues is communist
22:43 <@Corydon76-dig> and I'll probably drift closer to Libertarian
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22:43 <@someninjamaster> i wonder if where my stance on economic aid revolves around that persons contrubtion to socity
22:44 <@someninjamaster> because im pissed off at lazy people getting welfare
22:45 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: usually only because they have kids... the purpose is not to punish the kids
22:45 <@Corydon76-dig> You can't choose your parents, after all
22:45 <@someninjamaster> right but if you just give the parents money
22:46 <@someninjamaster> than the kids just expect to be given money
22:46 <@Corydon76-dig> I know.  They're supposed to be better about it, but bureaucracies are terribly inefficient
22:46 <@Corydon76-dig> The WIC vouchers that are only good for food, for example
22:46 <@someninjamaster> i know there are some people in my aunts house that are pulling disablity because they are fat
22:47 <@someninjamaster> house that she rents
22:47 <@someninjamaster> out
22:47 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: yeah, I agree with that sentiment
22:47 <@someninjamaster> and they are getting like 1200 dollers a week
22:47 <@someninjamaster> and theirs 5 of them in the house
22:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Unless they can demonstrate an actual medical condition, let them starve awhile
22:48 <@someninjamaster> yep
22:49 <@Corydon76-dig> It's also why Medicare only pays doctors
22:49 <@Corydon76-dig> instead of trying to reimburse for medical expenses
22:49 <@someninjamaster> http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-1.88&soc=2.51
22:49 <@someninjamaster> this is what i ended up with
22:50 <@Corydon76-dig> even then, every once in a while, they catch a doctor scamming medicare and paying the money back to the "patients"
22:50 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-3.75&soc=-5.64
22:51 <@Corydon76-dig> only reason I'm not hard libertarian is that I don't think businesses can be trusted to be socially and environmentally responsible
22:51 <@someninjamaster> i felt the same way
22:52 <@Corydon76-dig> but otherwise, I believe in the free market
22:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Make that:  a free, regulated market
22:52 <@Corydon76-dig> regulated to ensure that everybody is playing by the same rules
22:53 <@Corydon76-dig> History is rife with examples of why that is necessary
22:55 <@someninjamaster> i agree with that
22:56 <@someninjamaster> does the goverment offer any work programs
22:56 <@Corydon76-dig> The government doesn't, to the best of my knowledge
22:57 <@someninjamaster> i think thats something many people could benifit from
22:58 <@sdodson> free regulated?
22:58 <@sasquatc4> there is still jobcorp
22:59 <@sasquatc4> but i dunno too much about what they do
22:59 <@someninjamaster> i think the goverment should find jobs for disabled people
22:59 <@someninjamaster> other wise they just sit at home and leech off the system
23:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, depends on the disability
23:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Schizophrenia... I want those people to sit at home and stay on their drugs
23:01 <@Corydon76-dig> or not, if they've found a way to manage it
23:01 <@Corydon76-dig> but I'm not in favor of making people who hear voices and see mirages work
23:02 <@someninjamaster> yeah
23:03 <@someninjamaster> but schizophrenia can be controled
23:03 <@someninjamaster> one of my friends has it
23:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Well... depends on the severity
23:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Some of the drugs have really nasty side-effects, which is why people go off their meds
23:04  * Catonic wonders
23:04 <@someninjamaster> does anyone have a chart on where all the prez hopefuls stand
23:04 <@sasquatc4> hehe, that would be interesting
23:04 <@sasquatc4> not that you would have a truthful chart about where any of them stand
23:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, I just realized my doctor gave me a full year's prescription of my stomach meds
23:05 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm never going off those again
23:05 <@Corydon76-dig> It's awesome to be able to go into a restaurant and eat...
23:06 <@sdodson> How many of your friends is he?
23:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Schizophrenia != multiple personality disorder
23:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Schizophrenia is like having your own cadre of imaginary friends
23:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Plus paranoia
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23:12  * brimstone <3 imaginary friends
23:15 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: So basically, with schizophrenia, I'd have friends?
23:15  * dasunt is envious.
23:15 <@someninjamaster> well
23:15 <@someninjamaster> voices telling you to do thing
23:15 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: you'd be a lot more paranoid
23:15 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: *laughs*
23:16 <@someninjamaster> talking down a schzio is real intresting
23:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, because you can't hear half the conversation
23:16 <@someninjamaster> right
23:16 <@dasunt> The only problem with my paranoia is that it is more realistic -- women will screw me over, men are assholes.
23:17 <@dasunt> I need to start ranting about how IBM is implanting alien GMO into our bloodstreams via Core 2 Duo magnetic rays to have the schizo paranoia.  :p
23:19 <@someninjamaster> wouldnt it be a powerpc
23:19 <@someninjamaster> not an intel
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23:42 <@dasunt> someninjamaster: Apple loves us.
23:42 <@someninjamaster> indeed
23:42 <@dasunt> Anyways, IBM & Microsoft created OS/2, which lead to DOS, which lead to Trash-80s, which lead to Core 2 Duos (it is better if paranoid theories don't make sense).
23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, most paranoid theories do make sense, if you accept their premises
23:46 <@juice> hi
23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> You have to attack the facts, so to speak, to attack the theories
23:47 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: I have a paranoid theory that what I experience is real most of the time.
23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> I have a theory that I'm not the most important person in the world.  Most paranoia has a natural amount of arrogance of one's own self-importance
23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> If I'm not important, it makes no sense for the government to be wasting its time monitoring me
23:49 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: You're the only entity that you can prove that exists.
23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: a priori, yes
23:50 <@dasunt> And, to be fair to the paranoid, your assumption about gov't monitoring only is true if you assume that your potential to be (even in a minor way) important outweighs the perceived cost of monitoring you.
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, you can't prove that you exist.  You can accept that notion, a priori, and from that, you can deduce the existence of others
23:51 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Well, I don't think I can prove I exist, but I think that something must exist, which I am part of, can be proven, at least to my satisfaction.
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> but if we're going to metaphysical philosophy, there's really nothing that is provable without some a priori assumptions
23:52 <@dasunt> Although, to be honest, I approach such a thought logically, and I really have nothing to prove that logic works.
23:52 <@Corydon76-dig> And you can't prove you exist as a separate entity
23:53 <@dasunt> Or, in short, I'm fucked and my brain evolved to avoid lions and get laid, or:  This stuff is complicated and hurts my little primate brain!
23:53 <@Corydon76-dig> As they say in math, you can't prove that 1 + 1 = 2.  But everything else follows from that notion.
23:53 <@Corydon76-dig> If you accept that one equation as true, you can prove the entire body of mathematics
23:54 <@dasunt> But you also have to assume that all of mathmatics follows the same logical rules as 1 + 1 = 2.
23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> All logic has the same rules, by definition
23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> If logic varied, it wouldn't be logic
23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> In any case, I'm about to fall out of my chair, so I'm going to bed
23:57 <@sdodson> fuzzy logic!
23:57 <@Catonic> mmmm fuzzy.
23:57 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: But not only do you have to assume that 1 + 1 = 2, but you also have to assume that math is logical.
23:57 <@sdodson> don't be silly
23:58 <@dasunt> Oh?
23:58 <@sdodson> every problem lists a set of assumptions
23:58 <@dasunt> sdodson: And?
23:59 <@sdodson> dasunt: i like pie
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