--- Log opened Sun Dec 16 00:00:14 2007
00:06 <@sasquatc4> 1
00:06 <@sasquatc4> cut a hole in a box
00:06 <@sasquatc4> 2
00:06 <@sasquatc4> put your junk in that box
00:07 <@sasquatc4> 3
00:07 <@sasquatc4> make her open the box
00:08 <+coil> IT'S MY DICK IN A BOX
00:08 <+coil> sasquatc4: as long as it has the basic chans, im happy
00:09 <+coil> fuck if i care about movie chans or "digital cable" chans
00:09 <@sasquatc4> yea, it does as far as i can tell, they just have issues with their HD delivery
00:09 <@sasquatc4> cause their set tops suck, and their tech is limited, they can only do 1 hd stream total, that may have been bumped up to 2 by now, but i dont think so
00:10 <@dasunt> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1112/
00:11 <@sasquatc4> haha
00:20 <@dasunt> BRB.
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00:21 <+coil> well sasquatc4 we dont have any hd tvs
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00:22 <@sasquatc4> then i guess your set
00:23 <@dasunt> Fuck.
00:23 <@sdodson> his set is nice?
00:23 <+coil> i guess..
00:24 <+coil> maybe they wont charge 180/month for the same shit like time warner does
00:26 <@dasunt> I hate people.
00:26 <@freakn> join the club
00:26  * dasunt stays home instead.
00:26 <@dasunt> I mean, in theory, people are cool.
00:26 <@timoguin> dasunt: http://nashville.craigslist.org/zip/507569914.html
00:26 <@dasunt> But I make the mistake of talking to them.
00:26 <@timoguin> there's one about as good as the one you posted.
00:26 <@dasunt> And then they open the mouth.
00:27 <+coil> i fucking hate people.
00:27 <@dasunt> timoguin: Wow.
00:28 <@dasunt> timoguin: That's fucked up.
00:28 <@dasunt> A year.
00:28 <@dasunt> Jesus.
00:28 <@timoguin> my gf emailed them.
00:28 <@timoguin> "Um... why the FUCK was it filled with urine for a year?"
00:29 <@dasunt> timoguin: Sadly, I know someone who makes me not ask those questions.
00:30 <@dasunt> timoguin: If you want to know the answer, it could be some sort of psychosis.
00:30 <@dasunt> Then again, this is CL, so it may just be a fetish.
00:38 <@dasunt> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1090/
00:39  * sasquatc4 now playing: Nine Inch Nails - Capital G (Epworth Phones) [07:26m/224Kbps]
00:41 <@dasunt> I'm playing Aesma Daeva, so fuck you!
00:41 <@SkyDog_> I just finished watching EdTV.
00:42  * Corydon76-dig is twiddling his.....thumbs
00:42 <+coil> penis?
00:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Are you offering?
00:43 <+coil> maybe...
00:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Your bf probably wouldn't like that too much
00:44 <@dasunt> If you were only lesbians and into taping yourself...
00:44 <+coil> ya ya
00:45 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: you can pretend we're lesbians and join in
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00:48 <@dasunt> I'm not into threesomes.
00:49 <@dasunt> Plus, I think I'm trying to make the moves on deli woman.
00:49 <@dasunt> Which would work better if she was ever there and not busy when I was there.
00:50 <@dasunt> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1066/ <- I laughed at that.
00:51 <@someninjamaster> http://www.explosm.net/comics/1112/ is better
00:54 <@dasunt> I just posted that.
00:54  * dasunt beats someninjamaster.
01:03 <@dasunt> Grrr.
01:03 <@dasunt> I need a cheap board/cpu combo with two serial ports.
01:05 <@someninjamaster> why do you need to 2 serial ports
01:05 <@dasunt> One for lirc, one for x10.
01:05 <+coil> hi
01:05 <+coil> hi dascunt
01:05 <+coil> hi asscunt!!!
01:05 <@dasunt> x10 can be an add on card.
01:05 <@someninjamaster> have you checked out newegg
01:06 <@dasunt> Looking right now.
01:06 <@dasunt> And I need hardware virt.
01:07 <@brimstone> dasunt, you can't run x10 and lirc on the same serial port?
01:09 <@brookshire> brimstone!
01:09 <@dasunt> brimstone: Nope, lirc has a custom driver.
01:09 <@brimstone> omg brookshire!
01:09 <@brimstone> what are you doing in here!?
01:09 <@dasunt> I think a cpu/motherboard combo won't be bundled that supports hardware virt.
01:09 <@dasunt> At least not on newegg.
01:10 <@brimstone> dasunt, going for little?
01:10 <@brookshire> i don't know
01:10 <@brimstone> gumstix, nanoitx, miniitx?
01:11 <@dasunt> brimstone: Nope, regular ATX.
01:11 <@dasunt> Ideally, should have two IDE channels.
01:11 <@brimstone> IDE? for X10?
01:12 <@dasunt> I'm trying to upgrade an old machine I'm using so it can do OS virtualization.
01:12 <@dasunt> The old machine is an athlon running linux, with one serial port being used for x10, the other for lirc.
01:12 <@dasunt> I need virtualization for some testing I'm doing, and it isn't worth upgrading the old machine since it won't do hardawre virt.
01:13 <+coil> dasunt: dasunt dasunt dasunt dasunt dasunt dasunt dasunt
01:13 <@brookshire> hardware virt really isn't neccessary if you have a fast enought machine and enough ram :)
01:13  * brookshire learned that this week
01:14 <@dasunt> brookshire: This machine isn't fast enough.
01:14 <+coil> brookshire, tx
01:14 <@dasunt> It is a 1.1Ghz machine.
01:14 <@dasunt> Stable?  Yes.
01:14 <@dasunt> Been good to me as well, but I don't game.
01:15 <@brimstone> brookshire, what have you done?
01:15 <@dasunt> brimstone: I would like a machine where I could run 4-5 virtual machines on it without too much difficulty.
01:15 <@brimstone> get yourself a cheap core 2
01:15 <@dasunt> So I'm thinking hardware virt + 2GB+ of memory (512 for main system, 512 for virtualized server, 256 for virtualized clients)
01:15 <@brookshire> brimstone: i turned my desktop into a windows 2003 staging server
01:16 <@brookshire> it's a dual core pentium d
01:16 <@dasunt> Are all the core 2's hardware virt?
01:16 <@brookshire> w/ 4GB ram
01:16 <@brookshire> dasuant: no
01:16 <@brookshire> only the newer ones
01:16 <@brookshire> but you don't really need it if you use vmware
01:16 <@dasunt> Meh, I have to do this while sober.
01:17 <@dasunt> brookshire: Oh?
01:17 <@brimstone> vmvware is emulation though, not virtualization
01:17 <@dasunt> vmware can do hardware virt, IIRC.
01:17 <@dasunt> Thought most of the emulators coudl do it.
01:17 <@brimstone> yes, but not on a pentium d
01:19 <@dasunt> I'm on a tbird atm.
01:19 <@dasunt> I know, sad.
01:19 <@dasunt> But it worked.
01:19 <@dasunt> And I don't game.
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01:26 <@someninjamaster> someone needs to do this http://www.fukung.net/v/7007/pic06270-tm.jpg
01:27 <@dasunt> LOL!
01:30 <@dasunt> http://www.fukung.net/v/7704/478e2a58c5d2d6ed1e1a12cb27ccd256f7e9d40c.jpg
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01:35 <@someninjamaster> thats pretty cool
01:37 <@someninjamaster> i have seen this before
01:37 <@someninjamaster> http://www.fukung.net/v/3490/Hay%20Guys%20Hay.jpg
01:37 <@someninjamaster> except it was a rabbit
01:42 <+coil> lulz
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01:45 <@someninjamaster> and there was more bleeding
02:01 <@dasunt> http://www.fukung.net/v/7575/b.jpg
02:02 <@dasunt> LOL:  http://www.fukung.net/v/7577/50869127_6ae55c4438_o.gif
02:02 <+coil> bad ass dasunt
02:02  * coil kills some kittens
02:05 <@dasunt> Drunk now.
02:06 <@dasunt> Driml now too!
02:06 <+coil> dasunt:
02:06 <+coil> i was gonna get drunk
02:06 <+coil> but im only on my second beer, and i gotta open in the morning, so drinking is out of the question
02:06 <+coil> so ill finish it up then pass the fuck out
02:06 <+coil> sounds like a plan? no?
02:10 <@dasunt> You open on Sunday?
02:10 <@dasunt> WTF?
02:12 <+coil> yeah i work 9-9 tomorrow
02:12 <+coil> but i usually make good money
02:12 <+coil> 100+bux
02:13 <+coil> hey, that's good for me, fuck you all non belivers
02:13 <+coil> that will pay for 1/6th of my car repair
02:14 <+coil> and i get my minimum weige paycheck on monday, wahoo!!!!11112212
02:16 <@dasunt> 100+ bucks will pay for 1/6th of your care repair?
02:16 <@dasunt> Jesus.
02:16 <@dasunt> Dude, shoot the fucking car, buy another one.
02:16 <@dasunt> Btw, I hope that "very good money" is 100+/hr.
02:16 <@dasunt> 'Cause I make over 100/day.
02:16 <@dasunt> Without coming in on Sundays.
02:17 <+coil> dasunt: it was for my brakes, and im not getting into this fucking discussion again
02:17 <@dasunt> coil: If it doesn't include caliipers/brake cylinders, it is time to figure out how to fix the brakes yourself.  :p
02:17 <+coil> im getting a tech support job soon, just gotta be clean for the drug test and im in
02:17 <+coil> dasunt: no it was for the abs system (wheel bearings)
02:18 <+coil> and stfu
02:18 <+coil> and im going to bed.
02:18 <+coil> yes i know they ripped me off
02:22 <@dasunt> Dude, you got raped.
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02:48 < ware> oh hshit'
02:50 <@dasunt> JonnyX!
02:50 < ware> stay tuck ya out
02:51 < ware> orofl i forgot my pasworf
02:51 < ware> #!)@$
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05:32 <@Dagmar> Found an exploit with the Winter's Veil quests in WoW.  :)
05:32 <@Dagmar> Flying mounts + Preserved Holly == Hunter Pets come back while you're in the air, safely out of reach.
08:18 <@sdodson> zomg hax
08:18 <@sdodson> you should play lotro!
08:27 <@dc0de> mr0nin
08:27 <+coil> stfu ware
08:29 <@sdodson> coil: srsly man, wtf is up with ware?
08:30 <+coil> he's a lamer
08:30 <+coil> did he ban you?
08:30 <@sdodson> i dunno, i give up
08:31 <+coil> yeah, fuck it
08:31  * coil goes to work :/
08:31 <@sdodson> not worth it
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09:23 <@someninjamaster> morning all
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09:24 <@dc0de> morning
09:25 <@someninjamaster> whats up dc0de
09:25 <@dc0de> nm... just getting up and about...
09:26 <@dc0de> and my left mastoid cell is infected... I have to go to the Dr. in the AM.
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09:27 <@someninjamaster> ouch
09:27 <@dc0de> yeah, woke up in pain this morning.
09:27 <@dc0de> Neoteric, ping
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10:30 <@Catonic> ~weather 35205
10:30 <+MxZBot> It's Overcast in Birmingham, Alabama. It's 35 F (5 M, 1 C, 274 K).  Wind to the NW at 17Mph/28Kph.
10:30 <@Catonic> ah...
10:30 <@Catonic> this explains why it's 70 degrees in my apartment despite the projecctor running for several hours
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10:41 < Synx_hm> morning
10:42 <@dc0de> morning
10:43 < Synx_hm> think im going to dual boot vista this time around for flight sim
10:43 < Synx_hm> but still run the other stuff in a vm
10:50 < Synx_hm> anyone going anywhere for xmas?
10:51  * dc0de is going to floriduh, to meet up with the outlaws on the beach.
10:52 < Synx_hm> cool
10:52 < Synx_hm> im going home to LA
10:52 < Synx_hm> cant wait
10:52 <@dc0de> You wanna go in my place?
10:53 <@dc0de> I have to deal with my outlaws.
10:53 < Synx_hm> haha
10:53 < Synx_hm> ya dealing with fam is a pain the in ass
10:53 <@dc0de> actually, it's worse, I have to "make nice" with them.
10:53 < Synx_hm> doh
10:53 <@dc0de> they are bleeding heart left wing liberal wussies.
10:53 <@dc0de> and I'm not.
10:53 < Synx_hm> haha
10:54 < Synx_hm> i dont talk politics with my family
10:54 <@dc0de> nor do I. but they try to get me into all kinds of political discussions.
10:54 < Synx_hm> as a side note i ate a ton of chocolate and now i am having a horrid breakout
10:54 < Synx_hm> hehe
10:54 <@dc0de> it doesn't stop them from baiting...
10:55 < Synx_hm> hey dc0de with the version of vmware server you run, can you still remotely connect and boot the vm?
10:56 <@dc0de> I run it on my laptop, so there's no remote, it's on my local system all the time.
10:56 < Synx_hm> hrm, any idea if its still possible
10:57 < Synx_hm> id like to be able to leave my desktop running and log in while im at home and boot the vm
10:57 < Synx_hm> not just with RDP
10:57 <@dc0de> script it?
10:57 < Synx_hm> the 2.0 beta has a webui that can do it all
10:57 <@dc0de> I have the ability to run command line arguments that does all that.
10:57 < Synx_hm> true, i could ssh in
10:58 < Synx_hm> but id rather just use the webui for all that ish
11:04 < Synx_hm> wasn't there a slashdot article about ubuntu and the way it does file mgmt destroying laptop hd's prematurely
11:04 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, sounds like FUD to me.  I've not seen anything like that.
11:05 < Synx_hm> you read the article?
11:05 <@dc0de> no, haven't seen it
11:05 <@sdodson> ubuntu spins down harddrives aggressively
11:05 < Synx_hm> http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/10/30/1742258
11:07 <@dc0de> The problem is only present due to the existence of *all three* of the following factors:
11:07 <@dc0de> * Hardware is set (default or otherwise) to aggressive power management, causing heads to park. (default behaviour of many drives)
11:07 <@dc0de> * Disk is touched often, causing heads to unpark. (default behaviour of many distributions)
11:07 <@dc0de> * Drives are spec'd to a limited number of these cycles. (600,000 is the most common, although some may be spec'd higher or lower).
11:07 <@dc0de> I don't have aggressive power management setup.
11:07 <@dc0de> problem solved.
11:07 <@sdodson> that's the default behavior yo
11:08 <@dc0de> yeah, i can read
11:08 <@dc0de> I've modified my hardware power management settings from default
11:08 < Synx_hm> cool, just curious
11:09 <@sdodson> why'd you do that?
11:09 <@Catonic> use the pc as a space heater
11:09 <@dc0de> because I don't like my hard drive spinning down.
11:10 <@dc0de> I also have different power use methodologies.
11:10 <@dc0de> I don't like the defaults that dim my screen, or park my drives.
11:10 <@sdodson> YA, the screen dimming is fucking annoying.
11:10 <@sdodson> If I wanted to buy a mac I would.
11:11 <@dc0de> also, since I move my laptop from power frequently, and close the lid while it's in transit around the office, I don't sleep when closed, or dim the screen.
11:11 <@dc0de> with any laptop.
11:12 <@sdodson> you can load the inhibitor
11:12 <@sdodson> i thought you worked for some security company, they let you load your own systems with an arbitrary OS?
11:12 <@dc0de> sdodson, yes, they do. and yes, I do.
11:16 <@sdodson> sigh, i'm finding it hard to keep up with the fast paced movement of Fedora
11:16 <@dc0de> sdodson, really, that was one of the reasons that I didn't choose it as my OS
11:16 < ware> http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/1197784327416.png
11:16 <@dc0de> too many changes.
11:19 <@sdodson> i thought i linked that here
11:20 <@sdodson> dc0de: It's fine if you're content with just letting everything work, but it's a problem when something doesn't work and it's hard to keep track of how the various sub systems interact.
11:20 <@sdodson> ware: i say fuck the kid
11:20 <@sdodson> he violated computing policies of the school i'm sure
11:21 < Synx_hm> yup
11:22 < Synx_hm> dc0de, whats your take on this as a security professional, it seems to be if the security manager cant speak for the exact copy of software someone is running on your network thats an opening for attack
11:22 < Synx_hm> seems to me
11:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: how so?
11:22 < Synx_hm> kid may be running firefox, but did me md5 sum the code before he ran it
11:22 < Synx_hm> where did he dl it from
11:22 < Synx_hm> etc
11:23 < Synx_hm> if the admin wants to let people on the network run firefox, then the admin should download it check the source (md5 or what ever) and alow its use from the binary he downloaded
11:23 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, that's a very difficult thing to do.
11:24 < Synx_hm> i understand how that can be very very restrictive, and this is a poor case to compare however you can see the possibilities no?
11:24 < Synx_hm> ya and its near impossible to force
11:24 <@dc0de> there are many methods available to get around any controls such as those, including the use of portable drives and running firefox and many other portable apps.
11:24 < Synx_hm> ya
11:25 <@dc0de> until Windows OS's have a capability to control what the user CAN and CANNOT run, then it's an open season on that shit
11:25 < Synx_hm> i did that on a dod network and got yelled at
11:25 < Synx_hm> but i realized the error of my ways
11:25 <@dc0de> that's why Netware is seeing a resurgence in the Healthcare space, with ZEN and published applications, control can be put back into place on the network.
11:25 < Synx_hm> i figured, wtf im not doing anything wrong i know what im running and what its doing, and nothing is comming back in
11:26 < Synx_hm> but really i have no idea what the guy who wrote the portable firefox plugins put into his code
11:26 < Synx_hm> ill run that stuff on home, at starbucks what ever, but i dont dick around on the NIPR net
11:26 < Synx_hm> :)
11:27 <@dc0de> NIPR net is fucked enough, it doesn't need your help
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11:28 < Synx_hm> ya hehe
11:28 <@sdodson> That's pretty easy, you don't allow users to admin their own machines.
11:29 < Synx_hm> and sipr well i stay away as much as i can
11:29 <@dc0de> even without admin, I can run shit that isn't "allowed"
11:30 <@sdodson> TPM!
11:30 < Synx_hm> ya putty and portable firefox would allow one to do almost anything tunnels etc
11:30 < Synx_hm> whats TPM?
11:30 <@sdodson> how do you get putty and portable firefox on a properly secured system?
11:31 <@Catonic> I love a free-market economy
11:31 <@dc0de> sdodson, it's a military network, it's not properly secured
11:31 < Synx_hm> can you lock down via domain acl's any non approved binaries?
11:31 <@sdodson> then you've got bigger problems.
11:31 <@Catonic> I see a few cooking shows on using skirt steak, a normally cheap cut of beef, and bam, the price goes up on that cut to at or near t-bone prices
11:32 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, with 3rd party tools, yes
11:32 < Synx_hm> cool
11:32 <@sdodson> I'd imagine so.
11:32 < Synx_hm> so heres a big problem i have with NIPR or at least the way the military branches run it
11:32 <@dc0de> windows isn't the best with it's cacls, and it really doesn't look for the MD5 of a file
11:33 <@sdodson> there's no way to restrict it to signed binaries?
11:34 < Synx_hm> they have civ. contractors setup the hardware and manage to as little extent as possible to save money, they then take a E-1 thru E-5 and have them take a class on computers and bam they manage your entire base network
11:34 <@dc0de> in windows? shit, 1/2 of the microsoft binaries are unsigned
11:34 < Synx_hm> nothing ever fucking works
11:34 < Synx_hm> i called into the lan shop on friday, and said, hey the domain server just went down and i need to get back into the network share drives for work.  guy said, well sir check back in about 4 hours
11:35 < Synx_hm> i dropped the name bomb, "um ok well then you tell col so and so tomarrow when his flight package is not done that you didn't feel like working on friday'"  his response was priceless... 'oh ill call you right back'
11:35 <@dc0de> heh.
11:36 < Synx_hm> that fucker came in thrusday to look at the machines and said bah ill work on this tomarrow and left, we had 2 working computers that could be used for flight planning in the entire squadron
11:36 < Synx_hm> i wanted to stab his fucking eyes out
11:36 < Synx_hm> if we had professionals who knew what the fuck they were doing in the IT department on base i might actually be able to do the work in half the time on a normal work week
11:37 < Synx_hm> /rant off
11:41 < Synx_hm> dod is reworking nipr though, and for the better
11:44 < Synx_hm> how does one pull data off a hd that has been written over
11:44 <@dc0de> what was it written over with?
11:44 < Synx_hm> they say even up to 4 or more overwrites you can still pull the data off
11:44 < Synx_hm> well say an os install, but over time most of the data had been written over
11:44 < Synx_hm> does doing it with 0's change it?
11:44 <@dc0de> good luch
11:45 <@dc0de> good luck even.
11:46 < Synx_hm> so the average data recover software, is just reconstructing fat tables from data that is still on the drive, but not in the tables anymore?
11:47 < Synx_hm> i assume this is the case
11:47 <@dc0de> those are questions for someone like Scott Moulton.
11:47 <@Corydon76-dig> You can't generally recover data that has been written over without disassembling the drive in a clean room
11:47 < Synx_hm> ahh i figured that was the case
11:48 <@dc0de> are you looking to destroy data on a disk? or recover it?
11:48 <@Corydon76-dig> and then it's a matter of analyzing the pattern of the magnetic bits left on the disk
11:48 <@Corydon76-dig> With age, it becomes more and more difficult
11:49 < Synx_hm> damn windows sure does a damn good job of writing to portions of a drive that dont have data even after file deletion, because im seeing shit on this sata raid that i deleted months back and i figured surely would have been written over by now with 4 ubuntu installs 2 vista installs and an xp install
11:49 <@Corydon76-dig> not unless you've filled up the drive
11:49 < Synx_hm> dc0de, just curious im recovering shit that was at least on my raid before i copied it to the now dead backup hd, however im am going to be unable to get stuff that was on that drive but not on this raid :(
11:49 <@dc0de> file deletion doesn't remove files, it simply strips the pointer out of the FAT or NTFS table
11:50 <@dc0de> the sector get's marked as "USABLE" and "FREE" in the allocation table.
11:50 < Synx_hm> dc0de, understood, however i figured for fragmentation it would at least try to keep stuff in a general location, and not just write to unused portions until the driive is full
11:50 <@dc0de> the data isn't wiped unless you use a tool to wipe slack space
11:51 < Synx_hm> Corydon76-dig, that apears to be the case becauase ive got 800gb of stuff, so it seems windows knew even though the data had been removed from the fat table to look elsewhere until the drive was full
11:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Certain filesystems, namely those that are designed for flash media, also keep track of what blocks have been used and how many times, so that when you overwrite a file, you're not actually overwriting it; it's using a completely different block, so as to preserve the life of the media overall
11:54 < Synx_hm> oh thats cool
11:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Necessity is the mother of invention
11:56 < Synx_hm> so what about a regular hd, like i said it apears that windows was writing to any neverbefore written two portions of my raid even though the files has allready been removed from the recycle bin
11:56 < Synx_hm> seems as though it was making chances of file recovery as great as possible by design
11:56 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm sure the same technique could be used for magnetic media
11:56 <@dc0de> delayed write?
11:57 <@dc0de> was the drive formatted FAT, FAT32, or NTFS?
11:57 < Synx_hm> NTFS
11:58 <@dc0de> NTFS may have done it that way due to delayed writes, or calculations made on file size v. block size
11:58 < Synx_hm> whats delayed write, is the file left im memory as long as possible while changes are being made?
12:00 <@dc0de> delayed writing is buffering of data, then flushing it to disk, to make use of the significant differences in the speed of memory v. hard disk write access
12:00 < Synx_hm> cool
12:00 <@dc0de> almost every OS uses some kind of delayed write mechanism
12:03 <@dc0de> sdodson, I also made modifications to my Ubuntu using powertop
12:03 < Synx_hm> whats powertop dc0de ?
12:04 <@dc0de> http://www.linux.com/feature/62091
12:04 < Synx_hm> ohh neato
12:04 <@dc0de> shows where your laptop power is going
12:04 <@Corydon76-dig> There are other reasons, too, for delayed writes, that have to do with how blocks are written to disk
12:04 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig, agreed, I was using the KISS principle
12:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, I was considering going into it, but I realized it was fairly arcane knowledge
12:05 < Synx_hm> this is all good ish, wish i knew more about the details of how different file systems work, but this is a good starting point :)
12:06 <@dc0de> powertop is nice, it "auto suggests" how to remove power robbing features from your laptop.
12:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Synx_hm: pick up a book... Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating System
12:06 <@dc0de> like when the HAL scans the cdrom device for a new drive
12:06 < Synx_hm> hehe
12:06 <@dc0de> or allowing for USB suspend
12:06 < Synx_hm> Corydon76-dig, ill add it to my list thanks
12:06 <@Corydon76-dig> It's an excellent guide to the internal workings, including filesystem design
12:07 <@Corydon76-dig> by the guy who wrote UFS, among other things
12:11 < Synx_hm> thanks
12:12 < Synx_hm> btw is NTFS support in linux finally in a stable state?
12:12 < Synx_hm> ive got a protable 320gb that id rather have ntfs than fat32 on for large file support
12:12 < Synx_hm> that or get good ext3 support in windows and put a small fat32 partition with ext3 drivers on it
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12:14 <@ladymerlin> heya stef
12:15 <@Stefanie_TN> Hi.
12:15 <@Stefanie_TN> I left at 2:30, and they were still dancing in the livingroom.
12:16 <@ladymerlin> hehe!
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12:18 <@dc0de> Stefanie_TN, sounds like a good party!
12:19 <@Stefanie_TN> Chess club party - we roasted a whole pig (again).
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12:28 <@brookshire> anyone here know of a good virtual server host?
12:30 < Synx_hm> dc0de, looks like none of the data i recoverd is good :(  but at the very least i have a list to work from
12:30 <@dc0de> heh
12:30 <@dc0de> that is the pain in the ass which is recovery
12:30 <@dc0de> bbiab... rebooting to make changes to power
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12:40 <@dc0de> rattle, ping
12:43 <@sdodson> Synx_hm: ya, it's fine.
12:43 <@sdodson> ntfs support
12:46 < Synx_hm> cool
12:46 < Synx_hm> ugh
12:46 < Synx_hm> back to re-installing ubuntu
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12:48 < Synx_hm> fuck i cant delete the md0 that was on here previously
12:48 < Synx_hm> wtf
12:51 <@dc0de> well, I'm off to take a nap...
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13:04 < Synx_hm> fuck
13:04 <@tcstool> what?
13:04 < Synx_hm> friend just shot himself in the head
13:04 <@tcstool> oh no good
13:04 <@tcstool> sorry to hear it
13:04 < Synx_hm> what a great day
13:05 < Synx_hm> :(
13:05  * sdodson assumes it wasn't an accident
13:05 < Synx_hm> not sure yet
13:05 < Synx_hm> but chances are not
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13:37 < ware> http://clubhack.com/2007/presentations.html
13:45 < Synx_hm> wtf
13:45 < Synx_hm> i cant clear out this old software raid, the install cd still thinks theres an md0
13:53 <@dasunt>  http://twist.snowburst.org:4747/404
13:55 <@tcstool> ware:  good stuff
13:56 < Synx_hm> had to 'cp -a /dev/md0 /dev/md/0' on the live cd
13:56 < Synx_hm> w00t worked
13:57 < ware> its very interesting
13:59 <@tcstool> Yeah there's some pretty sweet stuff here
13:59 <@tcstool> Synx:  whatcha working on?
13:59 < ware> bout to install symantec endpoint security
14:00 < ware> whatchu up to
14:00 <@tcstool> Setting up BT3 beta in VMWare
14:00 < ware> i checked it out the other day
14:00 <@tcstool> yeah
14:01 <@tcstool> some nice new tools, but mostly the same so far
14:01 <@tcstool> that's kind of how the beta of 2 was though, not many tools, mainly used for hardware testing
14:07 < Synx_hm> tcstool, reinstalling ubuntu
14:07 < Synx_hm> tcstool, then ill have to re torrent all my f'ing music ugh, failing hd's suck balls
14:08 < Synx_hm> this is going to kill my what.cd ratio
14:09 < Evilpig_> I only have one torrent site that I have a ratio on.  and it is currently like 4:1 so I can download whatever I want
14:09 < Synx_hm> i have 16:1 but thats only at 10gb upload
14:10 < Synx_hm> hehe
14:10 <@tcstool> Synx_hm:  no good!
14:10 < Synx_hm> ya bad week for me
14:10 < Evilpig_> heh.  my upload is over a TB at this point
14:10 < Synx_hm> *shrug*
14:10 < Synx_hm> Evilpig_, what ya on?
14:10 < Synx_hm> tracker that is
14:11 < Evilpig_> sec.  looking it up
14:12 < Evilpig_> Your RATIO:  3.378   Uploaded: 0.99TB   Downloaded:  300.78GB
14:12 < Evilpig_> it's a porn torrent site
14:12 < Synx_hm> hehe
14:12 < Evilpig_> shit
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14:13 <@Evilpig> wonder when I got d/c;d
14:23 < Synx_hm> So the friend got into an argument with his gf and then shot himself in the head, but i guess didn't make a good shot, and was able to unload and safe the gun before parametics got there :(
14:23 <@sdodson> You know, I don't try to advertise that I dig porn like you do.
14:23 < Synx_hm> hes in drug induced comma now, they are not sure how much damage was done
14:24 <@Evilpig> sdodson: I love porn.  how else do you find stuff like circus midget porn?
14:25 <@sdodson> I dunno, but I'm not sure that's a very good pickup line.
14:25 <@tcstool> Short of filming your own?
14:25 < Synx_hm> redtube usually does it for me
14:26 <@sdodson> I need to find a pet grooming place with hot groomers.  This one went on and on about how my cat was ooooh sooo werrry cute oooh.
14:26 <@sdodson> but the grooming chick was like 40+ and not very good looking
14:26 <@Evilpig> sdodson: those are called crazy cat ladies
14:26 < Synx_hm> hehe
14:26 < Synx_hm> i am seriously considering getting a cat
14:27 < Synx_hm> but i live alone
14:27 <@Evilpig> why would you get a cat groomed?  they spend half the day bathing themselves anyway?
14:27 <@sdodson> "oooh i might just have to steal you..."  bitch stand back the cat is mine!
14:27 <@sdodson> to have his nails clipped and his ass shaved
14:27 <@sdodson> Those are not things I'm going to do on my own.
14:27 <@Evilpig> you can clip the claws yourself in like 5 min
14:27 <@sdodson> wtf ever
14:27 <@sdodson> i value my digits
14:28 <@Evilpig> grab hold flip them upside down.  use your thumb to get the claws out.  snip.  repeat
14:31 < ware> grab tail
14:31 < ware> swing around head
14:31 < ware> release
14:31 < ware> repeat
14:31 <@sdodson> evilpig has a tail?
14:32 < Synx_hm> Xinerama seems as if it would be the better option for me because i hate that twinview will maximize a screen across both displayes, i want two independant displays
14:32 < Synx_hm> but it doens't support directdraw on both displays only one
14:34 <@sdodson> xrandr is where it's at
14:37 < ware> nsfwobviously http://dickscab.com/nutsinass/alisha-17.mpeg
14:38 < Synx_hm> wtf ware
14:39 < Synx_hm> that is amazing
14:41 < ware> :D oldschool
14:41 < ware> checkout the .gif in the same directory
14:43 < Synx_hm> hahah great
14:47 < Shadow_Phone> Dolemite: you around?
14:48 < Shadow_Phone> garr
14:50  * Evilpig punches Shadow_Phone upside the head
14:50 <@Evilpig> nobody likes you.  go away
14:50 < Shadow_Phone> heh
14:50 < ware> i like Shadow_Phone
14:50 <@Evilpig> seee!  a nobody likes you.
14:50 < Shadow_Phone> you just jealous that i got to go to vegas and got lap danced by two lesbians
14:50 < Shadow_Phone> heh
14:52 < Shadow_Phone> ah ha, never mind, with a little googling homebrew forums, figured out what to do
14:52 < Shadow_Phone> was trying to figure out if you place the crushed chocolate in the steeping bag, and the answer is yes
14:53 < Shadow_Phone> mmm, this is gonna be some good holiday ale
14:53 <@sdodson> ginger ale!
14:59 <@Evilpig> i've been doing server reconstruction all weekend.  and now I am fixing the login script to do away with the old server and make the new one work right
15:00 <@Evilpig> they had a server here finally die on friday afternoon.  thing was still in heavy use.  PII 350 and the main data volume was only 7GB
15:06 <@dasunt> Looking up processors.
15:06 <@dasunt> Looks like the Athlon 64 X2s are the cheapest I'm going to find for what I want to do.
15:07 <@dasunt> I can find a Brisbane retail processor for $62 that is dual core & hardware virtualization.
15:07 < Synx_hm> whats a good torrent client for linux
15:07 < Synx_hm> azureus vuse sucks, and 2.5.0.4 is reporting a wrong client id and as such is banned from my tracker
15:08 < Synx_hm> :(
15:10 <@Evilpig> i'm using uTorrent on one of my windows boxes.  out of all the clients I have tried it is by far my favorite to date
15:10 < ware> yay for my transmission about to break
15:12 < Synx_hm> ya but i wana run something native to linux :(
15:12 < Synx_hm> i guess if i have to utorrent under wine
15:12 < Synx_hm> ugh what a pita
15:12 < ware> thought they had an ncurses cli
15:12 <@Evilpig> just put it on a windows box.  use the html GUI and be done with it
15:13 < Synx_hm> then i have to xfer back over the network, and i dont run my windows laptop at all hours :(
15:13 < ware> Synx_hm: http://www.torrentflux.com/
15:13 < ware> i used that for awhile
15:13 <@Evilpig> http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=6353
15:14 <@Evilpig> I have one of each type of server running in the house.  cause things I want to do don't always run best where I would prefer
15:14 <@sdodson> heh, cat can't make jumps more than about 3 feet now on the vinyl floor
15:15 <@Evilpig> http://news.softpedia.com/news/uTorrent-under-Ubuntu-in-3-Easy-Steps-49037.shtml
15:15 < Synx_hm> thank you sir
15:16 <@Evilpig> BEHOLD!  the power of google.
15:17 < ware> hoe lee shit
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15:19 <@Evilpig> deoptima: did you get your apache problem fixed?
15:19 <@dasunt> Nope, don't think this is doable.
15:19 <@dasunt> D'oh.
15:19 <@Evilpig> I really don't see how. but whatever
15:20 <@dasunt> Was trying to put together a 2GB RAM/dual core/hardware virt system (motherboard/cpu/memory/video) for under $200.
15:21 <@tcstool> check www.pcusa.com
15:21 <@dasunt> Onboard video is fine, but I'm trying to find a motherboard with at least one serial out and of a brand that doesn't scare me.
15:21 <@dasunt> tcstool: Looking at newegg right now, are the prices that different?
15:21 <@tcstool> pcusa sells real real real cheap barebones kits
15:22 <@dasunt> *looks*
15:22 <@Evilpig> heck if I could find one like htat under $200 i'd go with even a brand that scared me
15:22 <@tcstool> Yeah
15:22 <@tcstool> I've ordered a lot of stuff from them, they're pretty good
15:23 <@tcstool> I ordered a system like that from them recently, but I had some extras in there and it wound up being 338
15:23 <@tcstool> which still isn't bad
15:23 <@dasunt> tcstool: How do you tell it not to include the case?
15:24 <@dasunt> Evilpig: From newegg, 3600+ Brisbane Athlon 64 X2 is under $60.
15:24 <@dasunt> Evilpig: Cheap motherboard runs around $60.
15:24 <@dasunt> That leaves about $80 for S&H and 2 GB ram.
15:25 <@dasunt> Heck, an MSI board runs around $45.
15:26 <@dasunt> This *almost* tempts me:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=13-130-064-02.jpg%2c13-130-064-03.jpg%2c13-130-064-04.jpg%2c13-130-064-05.jpg%2c13-130-064-06.jpg%2c13-130-064-07.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=1&Description=MSI+K9MM-V+Micro+ATX+AMD+Motherboard
15:26 <@dasunt> ~minilink
15:26 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/newegg.com/tLy6p.aspx
15:26 <@Evilpig> msi boards aren't bad.  and I get them at cost
15:26 <@dasunt> Mainly cause I don't need video.
15:26 <@dasunt> So the AGP doesn't bother me.
15:27 <@sdodson> I thought cheap motherboards were cheaper than that.
15:27 <@dasunt> sdodson: I'm limiting myself to AM2 boards.
15:27 <@dasunt> Newegg has this one:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135053
15:27 <@dasunt> ~minilink
15:27 <@tcstool> dasunt:  Not sure
15:27 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/newegg.com/66m1R.aspx
15:28 <@dasunt> That's non-AM2.
15:28 <@tcstool> you may have to call them
15:29 <@tcstool> They're pretty cool though, I'd say they'd help you out
15:29 <@tcstool> good quick shippers too
15:29 <@dasunt> sdodson: I have some odd requirements for *cheap* -- I want hardware virtualization, and a board that, in theory, supports >2GB of ram.
15:29 <@Evilpig> $151.97 for that mobo, 2gb of ram and the amd 4000+ brisbane
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15:30 <@dasunt> Evilpig: Where at?
15:30 <@Evilpig> new egg
15:30 <@Evilpig> now if I called MSI I can probably get the mobo cheaper.  but not sure on the rest of the parts
15:30 <@Evilpig> i'll call jody tomorrow and see
15:31 <@dasunt> Dual PATA would be nice as well, but there are PATA->SATA converters.
15:31 <@sdodson> Why do you want hardware virtualization, dasunt?
15:31 <@Evilpig> hell that doesn't bother me.  two sata and one pata on that is more than plenty for my needs
15:31 <@dasunt> sdodson: Well, that's basically the reason I'm upgrading the old tbird.
15:31 <@dasunt> Want to be able to run about 4-5 virtualized OSes for testing purposees.
15:32 <@sdodson> Right but why do you need hardware virtualization?
15:32 <@sdodson> I guess you need to run windows?
15:32 <@dasunt> sdodson: Yep.
15:32 <@sdodson> bummer, hardware virtualization sucks
15:32 <@sdodson> makes baby jesus cry
15:32 <@sdodson> a lot
15:32 <@dasunt> If I wanted to run leenucks, OpenVT on this PIII at my feet would run fine.
15:33 < ware> pcusa is hot
15:33 <@sdodson> I'm still surprised that motherboards include ps2 ports.
15:33 <@dasunt> But I want to run vmware on a debian etch host, with multiple OSes.
15:33 <@Evilpig> well I need to replace my novell server.  but I didn't want to spend alot on it.  but I am looking at going to suse10 with open enterprise server 2.  so a nice fast box would be nice
15:33 <@sdodson> down with novell!
15:33 <@dasunt> And it doesn't have to run that *well* (this is for testing), but it can't absolutely bog down either.
15:34 <@dasunt> I figure 2 GB of memory gives me 512MB for the host, 512MB for a guest server, and 256MB for 4 guest clients.
15:34 < Synx_hm> what do you all use for irc in linux, i was not impressed with Exchat
15:34 < Synx_hm> bitchx?
15:34 <@dasunt> Synx_hm: irssi.
15:34 <@Evilpig> irssi
15:34 <@sdodson> gimps use bitchx
15:34 <@sdodson> cool kids use irssi!
15:34 < Synx_hm> cool ;)
15:34 <@dasunt> Is PCChips a decent brand?
15:35 <@dasunt> For reliability, not for speed.
15:35 <@Evilpig> they are okay.  support is problematic
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15:37 <@dasunt> I'm going to be running linux.
15:38 <@dasunt> Okay, I know this doesn't matter for 99.99% of newegg's audience, but I wish they'd say if there was a serial port header on the MB.
15:39 < synx_> hrm
15:41 <@Evilpig> $283.95 and i'd still have to add a case, power supply and cdrom.  but it would have matching 250gb sata drives for a software mirror
15:41 <@sdodson> bah, someone stole my hat now all i've got left is the tattered MSFT had
15:41 <@dasunt> Evilpig: 500GB were, last time I checked, a better $/GB buy.
15:42 <@Evilpig> $65.99 each for the 250s
15:43 <@Evilpig> gb/$ I don't really care much.  it's a matter of what I have to spend and what I dont' have
15:43 <@sdodson> That seems expensive
15:43 <@dasunt> Ah, okay.
15:43 <@dasunt> Not Maxtor, right?
15:44 <@Evilpig> baracudas
15:44 <@Evilpig> but I like maxtor
15:44 <@dasunt> Dunno about the newer Maxtors, but the older ones aren't impressing me.  it could be a susistical fluke, but...
15:44 <@Evilpig> even though they are out of business now
15:44 <@dasunt> Evilpig: Out of our old drives, Maxtors tend to disproportionally end up in the "bad" pile.
15:44 < synx_> hrm
15:44 <@dasunt> And it could just be something simple like Maxtors were cheap enough to be used in PCs that used crappy power supplies.
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15:46 <@Evilpig> my windows box at the house that has the TB array in it.  is all maxtor drives
15:46 <@Evilpig> 6x 200GB
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15:48 <@Evilpig> which...  I do have some sata raid controllers just collecting dust in the warehouse at the office I could pull and use.  but then i'd be spending a fortune on drives again
15:51 <@dasunt> I really need to investigate Solaris for a file server.
15:51 <@dasunt> ZFS looks damn nifty.
15:51 < Synx_hm> this iirs is rocken
15:51 <@Evilpig> irssi is pretty nice.  simple too
15:52 < Synx_hm> ya now i just need a clean theme for this black bg and ill be god
15:52 <@Evilpig> it needs a theme other then the default?  cause I thought default was as easy as you could get
15:53 < Synx_hm> ya i guess
15:54 <@Evilpig> if these files would copy faster I could get my work done.
15:54 <@dasunt> I use my own theme, based on the 'magick' theme.
15:54 <@dasunt> I can post if you want.
15:54 < Synx_hm> yes please
15:55 <@dasunt> http://rafb.net/p/naCSWK79.html
15:58 <@dasunt> That looks like:
15:58 <@dasunt> http://www.ursine.ca/~dasunt/ss.png
15:58 < Synx_hm> cool thanks
15:58 <@dasunt> And you can change themes on the fly.
15:58 <@dasunt> Also:  http://irssi.org/themes
15:59 < Synx_hm> ya i saw that
15:59 < Synx_hm> :)
15:59 < Synx_hm> wtf, i just installed vmware-mui but cant find any of it doh
15:59 <@dasunt> If I was going to change my theme, I'd have the status line to be two lines.
16:01 <@dasunt> I can't believe I have to burn either a PCI slot or a USB slot to get another serial port on modern motherboards.
16:01 <@dasunt> I think I'll go USB adapter.
16:02 <@dasunt> How is linux's USB->Serial Adapter support?
16:05 < Synx_hm> lame huh
16:05 < Synx_hm> i wonder if linux has lg vx10000 driver support
16:08 <@tcstool> dasunt:  terrible in my experience
16:08 <@dasunt> Gah.
16:08 <@dasunt> I want a serial port, damnit!
16:08 <@tcstool> Yeah no joke
16:08 <@dasunt> Well, two serial ports.
16:09 <@tcstool> it's great to get stuck in front of a Cisco device you need to console into only to realize you brought the laptop without the serial port
16:09 <@dasunt> Hmmmmm.
16:09 <@dasunt> GAH.
16:09 <@tcstool> IBM makes some boxes like that still though
16:09  * dasunt slits his wrists.
16:09 <@dasunt> And this board has one serial port on it.
16:09 <@dasunt> It gives me an IRDA header, just not another serial port header.
16:13 <@tcstool> well we all know IRDA is really really really really important to have
16:13 <@dasunt> tcstool: Yep.
16:13 <@dasunt> Gah.
16:14 <@dasunt> I want a serial port header.
16:14 <@tcstool> I feel your pain man
16:14 <@dasunt> Well, it has one serial port, which would work for lirc.
16:14 <@dasunt> Maybe the USB->Serial aren't horrible.
16:14  * dasunt lies to himself.
16:14 <@tcstool> I think a lot of that depends on the device more than anything
16:14 <@sasquatc4> you could always get a serial port expansion pci
16:15 <@tcstool> Yeah but who wants to burn a PCI slot for a serial port?
16:15 <@dasunt> I don't.
16:15 < Synx_hm> dc0de: you around?
16:15 <@dasunt> And the new serial port PCI cards seem to use an all-in-one chip that needs special drivers.
16:15 <@tcstool> Yeah
16:15 <@tcstool> same for the parallel cards too
16:17 <@dasunt> So far I'm at $155.xx for motherboard/cpu/memory.
16:17 <@dasunt> At newegg.
16:17 <@dasunt> PC CHIPS A33G V1.0 AM2 SiS 761 GX Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
16:18 <@dasunt> G.SKILL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model
16:18 <@dasunt> AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+ Brisbane 2.1GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADO4000DDBOX - Retail
16:18 <@dasunt> That's not too bad.
16:18 <@dasunt> I don't like the motherboard though...
16:18 <@dasunt> Well, I do and I don't.
16:19 <@tcstool> yeah that looks like sort of a shitty motherboard
16:19 <@tcstool> But that's still not a bad deal
16:19 <@tcstool> at least if it gets fried you won't have sunk a bunch of cash into it
16:20 <@dasunt> Yah.
16:20 <@sdodson> tcstool: the dell mobile workstation line has them as well
16:20 <@dasunt> I'll buy one of our work power supplies, I trust them more than randomly buying one from newegg...
16:20 <@sdodson> Just pick up a usb serial adapter.
16:21  * sdodson sways to and fro
16:21 <@tcstool> sdodson:  And you just proved my point ;-)
16:21 <@sdodson> Man I have a lot of crap in my apartment.
16:21 <@sdodson> Does goodwill want pants with holes in them?
16:21 <@dasunt> sdodson: I will for my x10 crap, but lirc needs something that looks like a 16550 or equiv.
16:21 <@sdodson> What was the point, tcstool?
16:22 <@tcstool> that their crappy, if Dell mobile workstatins have them
16:22 <@sdodson> i meant serial ports.
16:22 <@sdodson> My T42 has one, but only when it's docked in the port replicator.
16:23 <@tcstool> Gotcha!
16:23 <@tcstool> my bad, misunderstood
16:23 <@sdodson> they're
16:23 <@tcstool> yes I see that now ;-)
16:23 <@sdodson> I hate cleaning my apartment but once I get started it's hardcore cleaning for an hour or two.
16:23 <@sdodson> So stove top heating elements, dishwasher safe or no?
16:24 <@tcstool> The last dell mobile workstation I bought didn't have one, wonder which models still do...I think the last one I saw that had one was my latitude C 840
16:24 <@sdodson> latitudes I believe.
16:25 <@dasunt> I wonder how evil it would be to get this to run under linux:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124038
16:25 <@tcstool> I think most of the IBM laptops still do as well
16:25 <@tcstool> I just started working for an IBM shop so I'm still learning the product lines
16:25 <@sdodson> I imagine that stuff is pretty standard dasunt.
16:25 <@sdodson> Just a 16550A or whatever
16:25 <@dasunt> sdodson: The PCI cards we have at thed local computer shop are not standard 16550A uarts.
16:25 <@dasunt> They are an evil combo chip.
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16:27 <@sdodson> http://members.driverguide.com/driver/detail.php?driverid=370263
16:27 <@sdodson> dunno if that's necessary though
16:28 <@dasunt> I'm runing linux.
16:28 <@sdodson> apparently supported in 2.6
16:29 <@sdodson> that's totally whacky pci-e serial controller
16:29  * sdodson lulz
16:29 <@dasunt> I know, it sucks.
16:29 <@dasunt> Gah.
16:29  * dasunt ponders.
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16:29 <@dasunt> I want two serial ports.
16:29 <@dasunt> I want (eventually) composite out.
16:30 <@sdodson> I wonder if the Killer NIC guys have seen that!
16:30 <@dasunt> And a TV tuner card.
16:30 <@dasunt> Need dual PATA.
16:30 <@sdodson> KILLER-RS232! INCREASES SERIAL COMMUNICATIONS to 234000!
16:30 <@dasunt> I want 4 speaker sound.
16:30 <@tcstool> ha that would be badass
16:30 <@sdodson> EMBEDDED LINUX OS REDUCES LATENCY FOR BEST IOS INTERACTION EVER! GET THE POWERUP AND WIN THE LEVEL!
16:35 <@dasunt> Hmmmm.
16:35 <@dasunt> I do have a creative 5.1 PCI board.
16:35 <@dasunt> So that would still work.
16:36 <@dasunt> So the only thing I'm getting owned on is the additional serial port...
16:36 <@dasunt> Which I may be able to get around by rebuilding the lirc controller to use IRDA.
16:36 <@sdodson> guess the speed I was looking for was 230400 ?
16:37 <@tcstool> don't feel bad, I missed it too
17:08 <@dasunt> Okay, so my choices for a motherboard seems to be 1 serial/no DRI support under linux, or...
17:11 <@sdodson> mom you're just jealous, it's the beastie boys!
17:11 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: ping
17:13 < Synx_hm> hey if im out of window will iriss highlight if my handle is used?
17:18 <@dc0de> back
17:18 <@dc0de> sdodson, having 80's flashbacks?
17:21 <@dc0de> Evilpig, what's the porn torrent site you use?
17:22 < Synx_hm> dc0de: do you have to run vmware sudo?
17:22 < Synx_hm> not running the 2.0 beta anymore
17:22 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, no
17:22 < Synx_hm> dc0de: on a side note, that recovery i got file names and thats about it, they were all corrupt :(
17:22 <@dc0de> that sux
17:22 < Synx_hm> at least file names helps reconstruct some what
17:22 < Synx_hm> im downloading all my music torrent one by one now :(
17:23 < Synx_hm> this is killing my ratio
17:23 < Synx_hm> oh well
17:23 < Synx_hm> dc0de: it wont run unless i sudo
17:23 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, how did you install it?
17:23 < Synx_hm> the console that is
17:23 < Synx_hm> as root
17:23 < Synx_hm> just ran the install script
17:23 <@dc0de> oh, drop to non root, and run the install script
17:24 < Synx_hm> wilco
17:24 < Synx_hm> updating the xp install right now will fix when done
17:24 < Synx_hm> ack will i have to uninstall it because it wont overwrite file perms that were created as root
17:24 <@dc0de> no, you can chmod those
17:24 < Synx_hm> sounds like a pita
17:24 < Synx_hm> to chmod all that shit
17:26 <@timoguin> just applied for a wal-mart credit card because i was thinking about getting a tv with 12 months same as cash
17:26 <@timoguin> well, i've been approved!
17:26 <@timoguin> $125 limit!
17:26 <@rattle> It is windy as fuck here right now.
17:26 <@rattle> It's like gusting up to 50mph.
17:26 <@dc0de> same here
17:26 <@dc0de> and cold.
17:26 <@tcstool> Yeah just nasty here
17:26 <@dc0de> it's 31 outside
17:26 <@dc0de> ~weather 30019
17:26 <+MxZBot> It's Clear in Hog Mountain, Dacula, Georgia. It's 33.0 F (2 M, 0 C, 273 K).  Wind to the WNW at 7.0Mph/11.3Kph.
17:27 < Synx_hm> wtf does wine open ports differently or something, i have this utorrent port properly forwarded in my router, but its still not working
17:27 <@dc0de> you're running wine to perform bittorrent traffic?
17:28 < Synx_hm> ya
17:28 <@rattle> The power is starting to bounce in and out.
17:28 <@sdodson> same here.
17:28 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, uh, why?
17:28 < Synx_hm> azerus or what ever the hell it is called is reporting wrong client id, and my private tracker wont let it connect
17:28 <@dc0de> what torrent client are you using?
17:28 <@timoguin> utorrent is one of the applications i miss dearly when on linux.
17:28  * sdodson starts using epiphany rather than firefox
17:28 <@tcstool> Yeah azerus is way screwy sometimes
17:29 <@dc0de> I simply use bittorrent
17:29 <@timoguin> that's horrible.
17:29 <@rattle> ~weather 20005
17:29 <+MxZBot> It's Scattered Clouds in Washington, District of Columbia. It's 42 F (15 M, 5 C, 278 K).  Wind to the WNW at 17Mph/28Kph.
17:29 <@timoguin> and i think it's banned from some of the private trackers i use.
17:29 <@dc0de> that's nice, a functional simple client.  simply works.
17:29 <@juice> the new azerus sucks  compared to older version I had
17:29 <@rattle> ~weather 20816
17:29 <+MxZBot> It's Scattered Clouds in Yorktown, Arlington, Virginia. It's 35.1 F (5 M, 1 C, 274 K).  Wind to the NE at 11.6Mph/18.7Kph.
17:29 <@rattle> ~weather 20618
17:29 <+MxZBot> It's Mostly Cloudy in Swan Point on the Potomac River, Swan Point, Maryland. It's 43.3 F (17 M, 6 C, 279 K).
17:30 <@tcstool> dc0de: Same here
17:30 <@juice> ~weather 64501
17:30 <+MxZBot> It's Clear in St. Joseph, Missouri. It's 21 F (-16 M, -6 C, 267 K).  Wind to the West at 5Mph/7Kph.
17:30 <@timoguin> dc0de: utorrent is probably smaller and faster than bittorrent
17:30 <@timoguin> with way more features.
17:30 <@juice> ~weather 64468
17:30 <+MxZBot> It's Clear in NonFedAWOS MARYVILLE MO US MODOT, Maryville, Missouri. It's 12 F (-29 M, -11 C, 262 K).
17:30 <@dc0de> timoguin, I know that.
17:30 < Synx_hm> juice: i wasn't running that new horrid interface
17:30 <@tcstool> It's only going to be as fast as your circuit anyways
17:30 <@dc0de> but who actually uses all of those?
17:30 <@juice> yeah it is bad bad
17:30 <@sdodson> It's a real shame every Linux distro out there uses firefox by default.
17:30 < Synx_hm> juice: however 2.5.0.4 is supported on my tracker and thats what i was running but it was still not id'ing properly
17:30 <@dc0de> sdodson, as opposed to?
17:31 <@juice> hmm Synx_hm
17:31 <@sdodson> dc0de: Something like epiphany.
17:31 <@tcstool> dc0de: IE?
17:31 <@timoguin> well, it's smaller. faster. more features. why wouldn't you use it?
17:31 <@juice> I was using some older version and it usually worked fine
17:31 <@sdodson> The gnome web browser.
17:31 <@dc0de> sdodson, ahh.
17:31 <@dc0de> timoguin, because I don't emulate windows unless I have to.
17:31 <@sdodson> It loads like 100x faster than firefox.
17:32 <@timoguin> dc0de: well yea. i wasn't really talking about utorrent vs bittorrent on linux.
17:32 <@dc0de> tcstool, yeah, IE... please
17:32 <@timoguin> just in general.
17:32 <@tcstool> dc0de: heh, sarcasm is hard to convey over IRC
17:33 <@timoguin> i usually use ktorrent or azureus on linux.
17:33 <@timoguin> used the ncurses-based rtorrent for a long time too.
17:33 < Synx_hm> if fing azureus worked id use it :(
17:33 <@sdodson> I need to find more podcasts to listen to.
17:33 <@tcstool> sdodson:  Likewise, if you find good ones let me know
17:33 <@dc0de> ktorrent isn't too bad
17:33 <@tcstool> getting burned out on my current selection
17:34 <@sdodson> tcstool: What do you listen to now?
17:34 <@tcstool> mainly pauldotcom and binrev
17:34 <@dc0de> tcstool, /sarcasm I know.
17:34 <@sdodson> I current listen to lugradio, This American Life, and Linux Action show which I mostly fast forward through.
17:34 <@tcstool> and pick up an ep or two of a few others
17:34 < Synx_hm> tcstool: dl some metric, or silversun pickups
17:34 <@sdodson> This American Life is really good if you're a nerdy NPR type.
17:35 <@tcstool> Synx_hm:  Cool I'll check them out
17:35 < Synx_hm> err oh podcasts
17:35 < Synx_hm> doh
17:35 < Synx_hm> but still great bands
17:35 <@tcstool> that's OK
17:35 <@tcstool> I had heard of metric
17:35 <@tcstool> so I knew what you were talking about
17:38 <@sdodson> tcstool: cool, will check those out.  I really like lugradio, it's a nice mix of british trash talk and halfway clued linux talk.
17:39 < Synx_hm> dc0de: i cant seem to get vmware tools to run
17:39 < Synx_hm> dc0de: i installed it but there is nothing in the systray
17:39 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, inside your vm?
17:39 < Synx_hm> yar
17:39 <@dc0de> did you reboot?
17:39 < Synx_hm> yup
17:39 <@dc0de> it is windows
17:39 < Synx_hm> mouse driver seems to be working
17:39 <@dc0de> run it manually
17:39 < Synx_hm> yup xp pro
17:39 < Synx_hm> it says its installed
17:40 < Synx_hm> but no icon in the systray and no audio support
17:40 <@dc0de> ok, and when you run it, does it show up?
17:40 < Synx_hm> hrm its not in the start menu
17:41 < Synx_hm> vmware service doesn't seem to want to run
17:42 <@dc0de> hrm. dunno, I didn't have any of these problems.
17:42 <@tcstool> sdodson:  Yeah! I've talked to the lugradio guys before...really great guys
17:49 <@dc0de> 1 x 9 year old for sale.
17:49 <@sdodson> tcstool: they're coming to the US, San Fran but oh well.
17:49 <@sdodson> dc0de: house broken?
17:49 <@dc0de> sdodson, yes.
17:49 <@dc0de> but I must caution you, he'll also break the house
17:49 <@tcstool> sdodson:  Sweet!
17:50 <@sdodson> eep winds are getting fierce, better park the car indoors.
17:51 <@dc0de> winds have been blowing here all day... doors were shaking, whistling around the windows...
17:51 <@tcstool> dc0de:  Could be Cleveland, did you see the ball game there today?
17:51 <@tcstool> Insane weather
17:53 <@dc0de>  no, however I'm watching the Philly/Dallas game...
17:53 <@dc0de> I root for anyone playing Dallas
17:54 <@tcstool> likewise
17:54 <@tcstool> Wait for the highlights
17:54 <@tcstool> of the browns game, heavy snowfall and about 35+ mph winds
17:55 < Synx_hm> ~weather 71110
17:55 <+MxZBot> It's Clear in Barksdale AFB, Louisiana. It's 45 F (20 M, 7 C, 280 K).  Wind to the North at 6Mph/9Kph.
17:55 <@dc0de> wow...
17:55 <@dc0de> kinda like the Jets at Dallas over Thanksgiving... it was snowing in dallas
17:56 <@tcstool> Yeah
17:56 <@tcstool> it was a lot like that thanksgiving game between miami and dallas a few years ago
17:56 <@tcstool> when Leon Lett knocked the ball out of the end zone at the end of the game and cost the cowboys the ball game
17:56 <@dc0de> yup
18:01 <@dc0de> sdodson, I just installed epiphany, it is crazy fast
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18:05 <@tcstool> maybe I'll give that a try
18:05 <@tcstool> pretty good support for flash?
18:05 <@dc0de> dunno, still testing
18:06 <@dc0de> uhh, need popup controls.
18:07 <@tcstool> well firefox on 64 bit has no flash support
18:07 <@tcstool> annoying
18:07 <@dc0de> googled flash games, went to the first site, clicked on a game and spawned 9 extra windows
18:08 <@dc0de> that's annoying.
18:14 <@dc0de> tcstool, plays flash fine
18:15 <@dc0de> it needs some add-ins.
18:15 <@dc0de> like single window mode.
18:17 <@dc0de> omg, fucking DRAMA.
18:17 < Synx_hm> mofo i cant get utorrent out of systray mode
18:17 < Synx_hm> ack
18:18 <@dc0de> anyone wanna buy an 11 yr old girl?
18:18 < Synx_hm> ack reboot
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18:20 <@dc0de> dinner
18:23 <@dasunt> Okay, think I found a better combo.
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18:24 < Synx_hm> hrm
18:24 < Synx_hm> dual monitor support working better, however the task bar is only on the right monitor now
18:24 < Synx_hm> doh
18:27  * Catonic stirs
18:28 <@tcstool> dc0de:  I'll have to try it out
18:30 <@dasunt> Gah.
18:30 <@dasunt> I hate nvidia network.
18:30 < Synx_hm> wtf is goign on with this ish
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18:35 < Synx_hm> ugh
18:40  * dc0de adds some seasoning and spices to Catonic, and stirs some more
18:42 <@dasunt> Gah.
18:42 <@Catonic> sup dasunt
18:42 <@dc0de> dasunt, that doesn't sound good
18:43 <@dc0de> you should get that looked at
18:43 <@dc0de> sup Catonic?
18:43 <@dasunt> I hate motherboard manufacturers.
18:43 <@dasunt> Hates them, I do.
18:43 <@dasunt> Why the fuck would you have a motherboard that supports the full range of AM2 processors and not support hardware virtualization?
18:43 <@Catonic> my other mac is a dell
18:43 <@timoguin> wow. ubuntu is funny sometimes.
18:44 <@timoguin> i wanted to try out the kubuntu desktop, so i installed kubuntu-core, thinking i would get a kde desktop with all the kubuntu default settings.
18:44 <@timoguin> then i installed xubuntu-core, so i could see the xubuntu desktop.
18:45 <@dc0de> My friend, ubuntu is.
18:45 <@timoguin> well, i have a kubuntu framebuffer while booting, xubuntu-themed display manager, and a gnome desktop.
18:45 <@dc0de> timoguin, nice
18:46 <@timoguin> it's been a while since i've used it.
18:46 <@timoguin> the installation has gotten scary easy.
18:46 <@sdodson> tcstool: look at the nspluginwrapper I think, that allows 32bit flash in 64bit FX
18:47 <@tcstool> cool
18:48 <@tcstool> I found some other solutions but they involved installing the 32 bit version of firefox and and all the plugins
18:48 <@dc0de> An evil woman, hillary clinton is.  Never be allowed in a leadership position, she should.
18:49 <@dc0de> ^^ yoda said it, it must be true
18:49 <@sdodson> dc0de: who do you think is reasonable?
18:50 <@dc0de> reasonable? as far as what?
18:50 <@sdodson> As a candidate.
18:50 <@dc0de> I don't have one.
18:50 <@sdodson> man, something is up, i feel like crap after a 30 minute ride :(
18:50 <@dc0de> there isn't anyone that's running that is reasonable.
18:50 <@Catonic> what has this world come to when a chain resorts to bar-loike promotions
18:50 <@sdodson> so then who will you vote for?
18:51 <@dc0de> sdodson, don't know, that's about 10 months from now.
18:51 <@Catonic> sdodson: after a 30 minute ride?
18:51 <@dc0de> sdodson, I'll figure it out in about 9 1/2 months
18:51 <@dc0de> certainly not worth my time now
18:51 <@dc0de> it's always a choice between the lesser of two evils anyway.
18:52 <@dc0de> politics don't help this country, they are destroying it.
18:52 <@Catonic> that same sort of thinking results in children.
18:52 <@dc0de> Catonic, no, that's different thinking.
18:53 <@dc0de> I can't stop from getting fucked in 9 1/2 months by some fucked up choice
18:53 <@Catonic> dc0de: sdodson is complaining about a 30 minute ride and you're saying wait 9-1/2 months
18:53 <@dc0de> <sdodson> dc0de: who do you think is reasonable?
18:53 <@dc0de> <dc0de> reasonable? as far as what?
18:53 <@dc0de> <sdodson> As a candidate.
18:54 <@dc0de> what's a 30 minute ride got to do with anything?
18:54 <@Catonic> eeep
18:54 <@sdodson> i dunno
18:54 <@Catonic> I didn't realize we had a Mormon candiate
18:54 <@sdodson> Catonic: smoke less crack rock please.
18:54  * dc0de passes Catonic a pair of glasses, read the fucking scrollback next time
18:54 <@dc0de> jeebus
18:56 <@dc0de> what is the color of the first horizontal stripe at the top of the US flag?
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18:58 <@Catonic> http://bp2.blogger.com/_a7jkcMVp5Vg/R2Wkx8hM3EI/AAAAAAAACwI/SQFcKhOtQy0/s1600-h/neverbeen+kissed.jpg
18:58 <@Catonic> ~minilink
18:58 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/blogger.com/Gxj3D.jpg
18:58 <@dc0de> Catonic, you're going to Iraq?>
18:58 <@Catonic> no
18:58 <@Catonic> but that bastard is a sight more sad than me.
18:59 <@dc0de> ahh, Office space on Comedy Central
18:59 <@sdodson> Sad is only in your mind.
18:59 <@sdodson> fuck hollywood, fuck writers guild
18:59 <@Catonic> die motherfucker die motherfucker die
18:59 <@Catonic> nah, the writers have a point...
19:00 <@Catonic> but since 90% of the media in this country comes out of .ca.us...
19:00 <@dc0de> Catonic, and that is? they are getting fucked too?
19:00 <@dc0de> like the Music Industry Artists?
19:00 <@dc0de> then they should perhaps create something, and put it online for free.
19:02 <@Catonic> trent reznor is engaging his fans
19:03 <@sdodson> Wait, he has fans?
19:03 <@Catonic> bash:
19:03 <@Catonic> b/n
19:03 <@Catonic> n/m
19:03 <@sdodson> When did that happen?
19:03  * Catonic gives sdodson some penicillin to help with that bad case of sarcasm he has.
19:05 <@Catonic> I wish I could put an irc ticker on the screen
19:05 <@dasunt> Why can't you?
19:06 <@dasunt> tail -f <log_files>
19:06 <@dc0de> dasunt, you log irc?
19:06  * dc0de thinks it's a waste of space
19:06 <@Catonic> I can do it..
19:08 <@sdodson> It's not like it takes up space.
19:08 <@Catonic> I just don't want send the video through the pc
19:08 <@sdodson> 112MB of logs for the past year or so including much more exciting channels than this.
19:10 <@timoguin> I have gigalogs!
19:11 <@Catonic> sdodson is a fed.
19:12 <@dasunt> dc0de: Disk space is cheap.
19:12 <@Catonic> my router has 768 MB of RAM
19:12 <@dasunt> dc0de: And text compresses very, very well.
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19:15 <@SkyDog_> Heya mudflap!
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19:16 <@MudFlap> Heya SkyDog!
19:16 <@SkyDog_> How goes?
19:17 <@MudFlap> Still ruminating over HC.  Looking for access tomorrow.
19:17 <@MudFlap> Also developing list of projects.
19:17 <@SkyDog_> Sweet.
19:18 <@SkyDog_> Did you find a price for a locksmith?
19:18 <@MudFlap> I notice when I drive around now I lock into vacant property.
19:18 <@SkyDog_> hehe!
19:18 <@MudFlap> I can get Hosse and Hosse for $50.
19:18 <@MudFlap> Gonna try to have the owners front the cost so they have a key.
19:19 <@SkyDog_> That's cool.
19:19 <@SkyDog_> We went by there today after going to my mom's for lunch.
19:19 <@SkyDog_> LadyM's excited about it too.
19:19 <@MudFlap> Keep building the excitement, I'll break off a space and we are off and running.
19:20 <@juice> hi
19:20 <@SkyDog_> Yep. I think it's very close to happening.
19:20 <@SkyDog_> Did you see the logo?
19:20 <@MudFlap> On the website?
19:20 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, I'm talking to some ppl here about a "network club"
19:20 <@SkyDog_> blog.hackerconsortium.com
19:21 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: What's the slant on your group?
19:21 <@Catonic> SkyDog_: the side he's standing on
19:21 <@MudFlap> Like that logo.  Like I say, I just gotta get freespace broke off.
19:22 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: Cool. I am going to work on some more materials tomorrow, and possibly tonight.
19:23 <@someninjamaster> skydog awesome logo
19:24 <@MudFlap> What kind of service do we need to support welding?
19:24 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Thanks. We try. :)
19:24 <@someninjamaster> are you still planning on doing the dry erase room
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19:25 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: If we have the room, yeah.
19:25 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, let me know if you need any computer hardware, I'm cleaning out some inventory in the coming months... I'll give you first pick
19:25 <@MudFlap> I think dry erase is critical to the project.
19:25 <@someninjamaster> i worked on my dry erase room today
19:25 <@SkyDog_> I think that a gaming/movie area and a conference room with whiteboards are still two worthy pursuits.
19:26 <@someninjamaster> its not a one man job
19:26 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Coolness.
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19:26 <@someninjamaster> i can't move my arms
19:26 <@MudFlap> dc0de: We need everything.
19:26 <@Stefanie_TN> SkyDog, you went by the place today?
19:26 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: let us know. We have some decent hardware, but being able to get some more decent quality stuff would help.
19:26 <@SkyDog_> Stefanie_TN: Yeah, My moms lives in bellevue, so we stopped by on the way home.
19:27 < Synx_hm> wtf
19:27 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, no prob
19:27 < Synx_hm> the display order is all out of wack
19:27 < Synx_hm> DFP-1 is the main monitor, and DFP-0 is the second one on the right
19:27 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Sorry to hear that man. It's not easy to handle.
19:27 <@someninjamaster> i havent even mounted it yet
19:27 <@sdodson> Buy the dry erase paint.
19:27 < Synx_hm> the mouse moves across properly however the taskbar is on the secondary monitor
19:27 < Synx_hm> doh
19:27 <@someninjamaster> i just put down the first coat of wax
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19:34 <@SkyDog_> Figure your shit out man...
19:34 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, you might also want to use some chalkboard paint in some areas, it's pretty damned cool too.
19:34 <@SkyDog_> true. we're still looking at what space will be available for what.
19:34 < Synx_hm> someninjamaster, whatd ya get?
19:35 <@dc0de> I've used both before, and the chalkboard paint is good if you frame it with some cheap molding.
19:35 <@someninjamaster> tileboard
19:35 <@someninjamaster> how well does the dry erase paint work
19:35 <@Catonic> http://nickscipio.com/funstuff/archive26/images/rocketgirl.jpg
19:35 <@Catonic> that's hot
19:37 <@someninjamaster> id hit it
19:38 <@MudFlap> SkyDog:  let me know when/if you need printing for promotional materials.  I figure we can run cardstock thru that fat Ikon, and send it to the cutters.
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19:43 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, i think we might be doing that soon.
19:47 <@someninjamaster> skydog_: is the floor plan on the website like the one your looking at
19:48 <@SkyDog_> Nah. That's 4000 sq feet. and about $2000 a month.
19:48 <@SkyDog_> What we're looking at has a much easier price tag on it, and is about 2000 sq fete.
19:49 <@SkyDog_> as we get more intel I will release it on the website, and mailing list.
19:49 <@someninjamaster> 2000 should be plenty to start off with
19:49 <@SkyDog_> You're on the mailing list, right?
19:49 <@someninjamaster> no im not
19:49 <@SkyDog_> And why not?
19:49 <@someninjamaster> cause im lazy
19:49 <@SkyDog_> http://blog.hackerconsortium.com/index.php?entry=entry071204-102735
19:49 <@SkyDog_> ~minilink
19:49 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/hackerconsortium.com/nezqP.php
19:50 <@someninjamaster> ok
19:50 <@someninjamaster> done
19:50 <@SkyDog_> :)
19:51 <@someninjamaster> tommrow we are pouring the concrete for the out of level floor in my office
19:51 <@someninjamaster> then tuesday we start frameing the wall
19:51 <@SkyDog_> Nice! That should be fun!
19:51 <@someninjamaster> yeah
19:52 <@someninjamaster> i didnt relize how bad the slope was
19:52 <@someninjamaster> the back corner of the room is 5 3/4" out of level from the front corner
19:52 <@SkyDog_> Fuck!
19:52 <@someninjamaster> yeah
19:52 <@dc0de> sounds like time for a jackhammer
19:53 <@someninjamaster> thats what you get when the people across the street from you are behind on the blasting and decide to start triple packing the holes
19:54 <@someninjamaster> well that and a blow out that took out 20 cars going down dickerson road
19:54 <@someninjamaster> and another 5 in our parking lot
19:55 <@MudFlap> That's why dynamite monkeys always have a sick grin on their faces.
19:57 <@dc0de> most of the explosives jocks I knew were immigrant armenians
19:57 <@dc0de> and were very good
19:58 <@polerin> meh, any good way oftelling what speed ddr a dell system takes?
19:58 <@Catonic> Ok, using the nextel chirp for IRC means that I get really confused when a nextel commercial comes on that features the chirp as a note in a rap song
19:58 <@dc0de> polerin, what dell system?
20:00 <@dc0de> we had one come to our house in CT, and split a 4 ton granite boulder that was 7/8 buried into 4 pieces, while it was 19' from the foundation of the house, without ANY collateral damage
20:02 <@MudFlap> dc0de:  I am laughing over our TN past guys slinging rocks all over the interstate.  Much better here lately.  I was on a few jobs in the 80' where I feared.
20:02 <@dc0de> ouch
20:02 <@Catonic> oh wow...
20:03 <@Catonic> family guy did a simulated suicide by gun
20:03 <@dc0de> Catonic, yeah, that's a rerun
20:03 <@Catonic> ouch.
20:03 <@Catonic> I didn't know that.
20:05 <@dc0de> "THis is STUPID, I wanna talk about Vaginas!"
20:06 <@Catonic> well, since you brought the subject up...
20:06 <@dc0de> heh
20:06 <@sdodson> man, i just don't find family guy funny
20:07 <@dc0de> I only watch it to annoy my wife, and to watch colin ferril get blown away by Stewie
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20:15 <@juice> hmm dexter has a twist now
20:15 <@sasquatc4> the finale was good
20:17 <@juice> stil lwatching it
20:17 <@juice> still
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20:18 < Synx_hm> You guys ever had problems with utorrent getting stuck in the systray?  I cant get it out, tried rebooting and all
20:18 <@polerin> sorry about that
20:18 <@dasunt> I hate people.
20:18 <@dasunt> Have I mentioned that?
20:20 <@Catonic> I think you're projecting your hatred of yourself on to other people.
20:22 <@dasunt> No, I'm not.
20:23  * dasunt changes his passwords again.
20:23 <@dasunt> Anyways.
20:28 <@polerin> dcode: dimension 2400
20:28 <@dc0de> is it a laptop, desktop or server?
20:29 <@polerin> desktop
20:29 <@dc0de> ~minilink http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/modelsinfo.asp?SysID=16078&mfr=Dell&model=Dimension+2400&root=&LinkBack=&Sys=16078-Dell-Dimension+2400&distributor=0&submit1=Search
20:29 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/kingston.com/wPagq.asp
20:30 <@dc0de> it's either 400MHz FSB or 533MHz FSB
20:30 <@dasunt> Catonic: Admittedly, I'm in a bad mood, but my hatred of people isn't due to that.
20:32 <@freakn> hmm, graduated again
20:33 <@Catonic> now u gotta get a jerb
20:33 <@freakn> already got a shity one, but a started at yet another school 4 months ago
20:34 <@freakn> it is like .. a way of life, I am scared to live without it
20:34 <@polerin> thankie dc0de
20:38 <@dc0de> AVP-R w00t
20:38 <@dc0de> An Xmas day miracle!
20:38 <@Scotchick> hello folks
20:39 <@dc0de> no prob polerin, fyi, the goldenram site is good too, if they are still in business
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20:48 <@dasunt> Did gtalk go down?
20:48 <@dc0de> dasunt, not on me.
20:48 <@dasunt> Ah, I know what I did.
20:48 <@dc0de> I think I would have known
20:49 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, i blocked the gtalk port the other day for a whole border router by accident last week
20:49 <@Shadow_Phone> got a call on the way home from the shift manager asking if i knew anything about any changes
20:50 <@dc0de> Shadow_Phone, don't have change control?
20:50 <@Shadow_Phone> they do, they just dont wanna go messing with changing somehting, if they can fix it right away
20:50 <@Shadow_Phone> saves times or saves making a bigger mess
20:50 <@Shadow_Phone> understandable
20:50 <@dc0de> stupid
20:50  * Shadow_Phone is not ready to go back to work tomorrow
20:51 <@Shadow_Phone> i liked my vacation
20:51 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, well, i was stupid for making that whole range blocked and not deleting that acl when i was done troubleshooting
20:51 <@dasunt> I no get vacation.
20:51 <@dasunt> Not a good one anyways.
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20:51 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, my vegas trip plus skiing was fun
20:57 <@Scotchick> hey I have 4 days left to work this year, but they will be for teh 4 days from hell
20:58 <@dc0de> the ending of American Dad was perfect... "... a flying hooker watching you hug..."
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20:58 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
20:58 <@Shadow_Phone> Scotchick: show off
20:58 <@Scotchick> shadow_ph - so what?  get a job with real vacation time and stop whinging
20:59 <@dc0de> I'm afraid that I'm going to have to have surgery tomorrow... my left mastoid cell is infected.
20:59 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
20:59 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, i get roughly 25 days
21:00 <@Scotchick> drilling holes in your head?
21:00 <@Shadow_Phone> but i was limited this year, since i joined the company half way through the year, so my vacation benefits was cut in half
21:00 <@Catonic> dc0de is having a mental implant installed
21:00 <@dc0de> mastoidectomy
21:00 <@Catonic> to make him smarter.
21:00 <@dc0de> my daughter went through it twice on her right ear, once on her left
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21:01 <@sdodson> 25 days, that's a lot of pto
21:02 <@dc0de> sdodson, I think he's county holidays
21:02 <@dc0de> counting even
21:02 <@sdodson> oh that doesn't count!
21:02 <@dc0de> to him it does.
21:02 <@Scotchick> nope he's not
21:02 <@Scotchick> he's 30 odd days if he counts thxgiving and that stuff
21:03 <@Scotchick> i've read his contract of employment
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21:03 <@Catonic> if we were smart, we'd move to europe and get jobs with american companies as $country employees
21:03 <@dc0de> most companies don't give 3 weeks of vacation to newbs
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21:03 <@Scotchick> this one does
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21:04 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, back
21:04 <@dc0de> must have sucked some great cock at the interview.
21:04 <@Catonic> I was gonna say...
21:04 <@Scotchick> i guess he did
21:04 <@Scotchick> his pto also goes up after 1 yr employment i think
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21:05 <@Shadow_Phone> timoguin: heh, funny myspace group
21:05 <@Catonic> "never carry your social security card.." .. adn they want to put it on the DL
21:05 <@dc0de> so how much pto do you earn a week?
21:05 <@Scotchick> i'm stuck at 22 days pto plus holidays for the foreseeable future unless HR changes their rules
21:05 <@Shadow_Phone> 3 floating dasys a year
21:05 <@Shadow_Phone> so almost  16 hours a month
21:06 <@sdodson> i thought you said every day was a vacation day since you never actually did anything
21:06 <@Catonic> Scotchick: work from home. vacation days can kiss my ass!
21:06 <@Shadow_Phone> sdodson: i wish
21:07 <@Scotchick> catonic - I used to until I became a line manager, for some reason they expect me to interact with my team on a daily basis now - sucks
21:07 <@dc0de> heh...
21:07 <@Shadow_Phone> Catonic: oh, we switch to ip phones in 08
21:07 <@Shadow_Phone> so chances are i start teleworking soon
21:07 <@dc0de> cool, something new to hack at internap
21:07 <@Scotchick> quintiles does too
21:07 <@Shadow_Phone> on a regular basis
21:07 <@Catonic> they talked about implementing IP phones at work..
21:07 <@Catonic> I tried to enlighten them to the nature of asterisk...
21:08 <@Catonic> waaay too much fear of change...
21:08 <@Catonic> "you're not going to get a PC to switch voice calls!"
21:08 <@sdodson> they just rolled out soft phones at work
21:08  * Shadow_Phone is praying for a clear day with no winds so he can try out his refurbrished r/c plane
21:08 <@sdodson> pcs aren't reliable
21:08 <@sdodson> Shadow_Phone: what is it?
21:09 <@dc0de> yeah, you should use old fujitsu gear, that you can't find parts for anymore
21:09 <@Shadow_Phone> sdodson: just an el-cheapo estes r/c plane that i made improvements on
21:09 <@Shadow_Phone> blue angels electric thing
21:10 <@Shadow_Phone> flys pretty good for $45
21:10 <@Scotchick> sdodson - softphone sucks
21:10 <@Shadow_Phone> great learner plane
21:10 <@polerin> ddr scales down right?
21:10 <@Catonic> dude.. some of those fujitsu boxes are awesome
21:10 <@polerin> as long as it's the same type, if we stick faster in a slower it'll fall back right?
21:10 <@dc0de> Catonic, we had a 900 series, with a serial number of 394.
21:11 <@Catonic> I have reached the point in life where I no longer try to grab every server that comes along
21:11 <@Shadow_Phone> Catonic: same here
21:11 <@Shadow_Phone> got rid of half of my stored ancient gear at the parents huse
21:11 <@Shadow_Phone> the other half in my gf's attic
21:11 <@dc0de> heh, I was outsourcing systems 5 years ago
21:11 <@Catonic> vmware ftw.
21:12 <@Scotchick> well he thinks its in the attic
21:12 <@dc0de> outsourced IP telephony.
21:12 <@Scotchick> its actually in landfill somewhere
21:12 <@Catonic> oh... I don't have a single wireline phone
21:12 <@Shadow_Phone> nope, just cheked
21:12 <@Catonic> Scotchick: ya gotta move slower on the guy than that.
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21:13  * Catonic yawns
21:13 <@Scotchick> trust me that and his other dubious  / crappy furntiure will be going soon
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21:13 <@Scotchick> anyway work tomorrow - sucks - later
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21:13 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, one thing is moving
21:14 <@Shadow_Phone> my old college couch
21:14 <@sdodson> when are the sucks?
21:14 <@Shadow_Phone> and thats going in the office
21:14 <@dc0de> so when is the engagement party?
21:14 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl lawl lawl
21:14 <@Shadow_Phone> who knows?
21:14 <@Shadow_Phone> shes sitting in my lap now
21:15 <@Catonic> Shadow_Phone: is that the couch that got more ass than you?
21:15 <@Shadow_Phone> in quanity, probably
21:15 <@dc0de> Shadow_Phone, you won't have any furniture, or any other independent thought, you may as well just be married.
21:15 <@Catonic> Shadow_Phone: pitch laptop... grab laptop...
21:15 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
21:15 <@Shadow_Phone> you guys suck, good night
21:15 <@Shadow_Phone> talk to you tomorrow
21:15 <@Catonic> it's a compelling argument
21:15 <@dc0de> if she doesn't make you sign a pre-nup, you're good for half her shit.
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21:16 <@Catonic> "I'll hold on to half your stuff and all the semen."
21:16 <@Catonic> you just don't realize how evil that stuff is..
21:16 <@Catonic> sure, you think you're just making regular deposits... but the interest...
21:17 <@dc0de> heh, I know, it kills you.
21:17 <@Catonic> and the bank always has lawyers ready to go..
21:17 <@sdodson> what?
21:18 <@Catonic> n/m
21:19 <@Catonic> yay, winter has returned!
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21:29 <@sdodson> ya, winter sucks
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21:42 < Synx_hm> ugh
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21:44 <+coil> 6hi stfu Synx_hm
21:44 < Synx_hm> why do you hate me?
21:44 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, he hates everyone
21:44 < Synx_hm> hehe
21:45 <@Corydon76-dig> almost everyone
21:45 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, don't take it personal, just /ignore coil
21:45 <+coil> bah
21:45 <@sdodson> ya, he never has anything worth listening to
21:45 <+coil> no i dont hate almost everyone
21:45 <+coil> the first one was right
21:46 <@Corydon76-dig> He actually doesn't hate anyone... it's just that time of the month...
21:46 <+coil> no
21:46 <+coil> if that was true, it would be that time of the month every day
21:46 <+coil> calling me a bitch
21:46 <@dc0de> Synx_hm, you see, he was unloved as a rich white child... so he is going through his angst phase, thinking it's cool to be dark and bitchy. (not realizing that it makes him look like a 13 yr old girl who just got her period)
21:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Technically, that
21:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Technically, that's true
21:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Men's bodies cycle every 24 hours
21:47 <+coil> dc0de: my family was far from rich.
21:47 <@dc0de> whatever.
21:47 < Synx_hm> hehe
21:47 <@dc0de> did your stomach ever distend from not eating for over 2 weeks?
21:47 <+coil> no im fat, remember
21:48 <@dc0de> because you didn't get enough to eat as a child? or because you can't stop stuffing food in your mouth?
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21:48 <+coil> no an no
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21:54 <@dc0de> then why such the hate issues?
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21:54 <@SkyDog_> Yawn.
21:54 <@SkyDog_> Dinner was good. famous daves.
21:54 <@dc0de> SkyDog_, nice
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22:00 <@dc0de> doink doink
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22:33 <@Catonic> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obmLtqWHSFk
22:33 <@Catonic> check this out at the end
22:33 <@Catonic> they did some cloud thing in flash/ajax
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22:38 < ware> i didnt know travis pastrana was a rally driver haha
22:39 < ware> thats crazy
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22:39 < ware> timoguin1: lrn2intrnt
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22:43  * someninjamaster yawns
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22:46 <@SkyDog_> Evening dole.
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22:49 < ware> http://img0.gmodules.com/ig/images/skins/JR/10pm/header_bg.jpg
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23:10 <@dasunt> Someone, shoot me.
23:12  * ware shoots dasunt 
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23:15 < ware> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ctN8qgFjssM&feature=related
23:19 <@dasunt> Too many of my evenings end in drinking.
23:19 <@dasunt> I'm going to destroy my liver sooner or later.
23:19 <@brimstone> just now figuring this out?
23:19 <@dasunt> I'm trying to figure out if I care about that.
23:19 <+coil> i sure as hell dont
23:19 <+coil> i dont give a fuck
23:20 <@brimstone> that's the way coil rolls
23:20 <@dasunt> Some days, it seems like it is a choice between destroying my liver slowly through alcohol poisoning, or destroying my brain quickly through high velocitiy lead poisoning.
23:21 <@brimstone> dasunt, what's your job?
23:21 <+coil> makes me wanna drink a case then go driving around with out my seat belt on
23:21 <+coil> that's how i feel right now
23:21 <@brimstone> what do you do at your job?
23:21 <@dasunt> brimstone: Catering to idiots to earn enough money for rent.
23:21 <@brimstone> it sounds like you need to move and restart or something
23:21 <@dasunt> coil: Some days, if it wasn't for the cats, I'd do that.
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23:21 <+coil> i fucking hate cats
23:22  * coil runs over dasunt's cats
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23:22 <+coil> it's hard to run over the garbage cats
23:22 <+coil> they run away too quick.
23:22 <@dasunt> coil: Seriously, fuck with my cats, and what happens to you will be a subject of a news report that includes my neighbors saying "he was such a quiet guy" while referring to me.
23:22 <+coil> boo fucking hoo dasunt your poor fucking precious cats
23:23 <+coil> go diaf with them
23:23 <@dasunt> I prefer my cats to most people.
23:23 <+coil> yes i love cats
23:23 <+coil> im thinking about taking my roommates cats and throwing them out the window on the highway
23:24 <+coil> see if they can play frogger
23:24 < ware> dasunt: where do you live at?
23:25 <@dasunt> ware: Minneapolis.
23:26 < ware> well id say we could go drinkin
23:26 <@brookshire> i think someone really hates cats
23:26 < ware> but thats a long drunk drive home for me
23:26 <@brookshire> drink at home!
23:27 < ware> hijacked.us
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23:28 <@brookshire> :)
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23:29 <@Catonic> Hey, I know him!
23:30 <@brookshire> know who?
23:30 < ware> YOOOOUUUUU!!!!
23:31 <@Catonic> that guy who does it for da lulz
23:32 < ware> http://www.woflsys.net/
23:32 < ware> they aint nothin there
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23:39 <@brookshire> heh.. i really have no idea who hosts my domain
23:39 <@brookshire> he gave me a shell on his box.. never met him
23:39 <@brookshire> this box rocks too!
23:39 <@brookshire> it's like a sun running netbsd
23:39 <@brookshire> with an amazing 45 MHz
23:39 <@brookshire> CPU
23:39 < ware> ?
23:39 < ware> dang
23:39 <+coil> slow down brookshire
23:40 <+coil> it's only a 35mhz zone
23:40 <@Mirage> watching one of the ultimate cheesey movies: http://imdb.com/title/tt0104905/
23:40 <@brookshire> hah..
23:40 <@brookshire> let me hit the turbo button
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