--- Log opened Tue Dec 04 00:00:32 2007
00:00 <+coil> stupid americans
00:01 <@Corydon76-dig> What makes it all the funnier is Mirage's previous occupation
00:01 <+coil> navy?
00:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Bingo
00:02 <@dasunt> coil: Why do you hate America?
00:02  * dasunt sends coil to Cuba.
00:02 <+coil> i dont dasunt
00:02 <@dasunt> coil: So you love Bush?  OMG, FOX NEWS WATCHER!
00:02 <+coil> no
00:02 <@dasunt> Liar.
00:02 <@baudburn>  second coil, stupid americans.
00:02 <@dasunt> Admit it, you love Bill O'Reilly.
00:03 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: actually, he loves the cock
00:03 <@Mirage> http://www.fukung.net/v/471/bestbuy.jpg
00:05 <@Mirage> I need to test this: http://www.fukung.net/v/6564/22168.jpg
00:05 <+coil> looks physically possible
00:06 <@Mirage> should be
00:06 <@Mirage> but it does look wrong
00:06 <+coil> it looks cool
00:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Totally possible.  Center of gravity is on the table
00:07 <@Mirage> didn't say it wasn't possible..just that it looks wrong
00:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh, yep
00:07 <@juice> anyone know of any jobs available in the Nashville area?
00:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, at least until you understand that the ruler and hammer are acting as a single object
00:08 <@Corydon76-dig> juice: doing what?
00:08 <@juice> Umm Network/IT/Linux stuff
00:09 <@juice> or anything a MIS degree will let me do
00:09 <@Corydon76-dig> So system administration?
00:09 <@juice> anything but programming
00:09 <+coil> mis? lol
00:09 <@juice> really
00:09 <@juice> Management Information Systems
00:09 <+coil> yes i know what it stands for
00:09 <@juice> k
00:09 <+coil> its a joke
00:09 <@Corydon76-dig> There are always places looking for good sysadmins
00:10 <@Corydon76-dig> Someone just posted a job offer in the Vandy Med Center
00:10 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Even with no degree?
00:11 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: he's asking for a bachelor's
00:11 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: :(
00:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Here's the posting: http://nlug.org/mail/nlug__2007_11/0048.html
00:12 <@dasunt> Okay, I know I don't have the skills that some people in this channel has, but I am better than the average BS at computer admining.
00:12 <@juice> k
00:13 <@dasunt> And admittedly, I shouldn't be.
00:13 <@dasunt> 4 years of a solid theoretical background should own my ass.
00:13 <@sdodson> coil: automated checks at work
00:13 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: in my experience, a good 10 years of experience on a resume will compensate for not having a college degree
00:13 <@dasunt> OTOH, we have people like ksomeone I know who graduated 4 years of college, computer related degree, doesn't know what a function is.
00:14 <@Corydon76-dig> dasunt: that's because college isn't 4 years of solid anything
00:14 <@sdodson> what is a function?!
00:14 <@Corydon76-dig> As opposed to a procedure?
00:14 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: Ha ha.
00:14 <@Corydon76-dig> or as opposed to a control structure?
00:14 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: As in "I passed programming classes".  :o
00:15 <@sdodson> Just reinforcing the anti-college meme.
00:15 <@dasunt> I'm not talking about the finer points of subroutines vs coroutines.
00:15 < ware> srfu
00:16 <@Corydon76-dig> threading FTW
00:16 <@dasunt> That still confuses me.
00:16 <@dasunt> Passing.
00:16 <@dasunt> A class.
00:16 <@sdodson> threads will never catch on
00:17 <@dasunt> That had programming assignments.
00:17 <@dasunt> Without knowing what a function is.
00:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Last week I had the enjoyment of debugging something where a thread was still using an object that was freed in another thread and the space subsequently reallocated to another object
00:17 <@dasunt> Threads:  Here be dragons.  We're breeding them, and fighting them so that the weak die.
00:18 <@Corydon76-dig> We ended up doing reference counting to ensure that didn't happen again
00:19 < ware> sdodson: gotosleep
00:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Not a universal solution, though, because we have a ton of circular references
00:19 <+coil> dasunt:
00:20 <@Corydon76-dig> but it's fun to learn the tools that help us diagnose those issues
00:20 <@Corydon76-dig> valgrind FTW
00:20 <@Mirage> baudburn: http://www.fukung.net/v/2875/423185501_73a68888ed_o.jpg
00:21 <+coil> hi dasunt
00:21 <@sdodson> ware: ferrealz
00:21 <+coil> ww sdodson
00:21 <@sdodson> ww?
00:21 <+coil> oh nm
00:21 <+coil> good night sdodson
00:21 <@sdodson> Ineed to learn debugging stuff
00:22 <+coil> lrn2debug
00:22 <@sdodson> willdokthnx
00:22 <+coil> kthxbai
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00:23 <@sdodson> Today I got the third ClearWire advertisement of the week. This is after I called them two weeks ago and told them to remove me from their mailing lists.
00:25 <+coil> lrn2rmmaillist
00:25 <@Mirage> http://www.fukung.net/v/4966/061224catporn.gif
00:27 <+coil> Mirage: wok it out
00:27 <+coil> hunan wok
00:27 <@sdodson> coil: what?
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00:31 <+coil> sdodson:
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00:36 <+coil> rakg
01:05 <@freakn> moo again
01:12 <@freakn> I wonder how many more "copy cat" acts of MySpace suicide we can expect to see in the next few weeks
01:13 <@freakn> and after that, will some shitty date rape situation be media spun into "Facebook Pregnancy"?
01:15 <@freakn> a side affect of the information age is how poorly the human can react with improper/inadequate informtion, and how wmtions still have a control on everything we do
01:21 <@dasunt> freakn: What suicide?
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01:24 <@freakn> it's on the news stuff.  A 13 year old girl made friends with a teen .... who was fajed, and controlled by some neighbors.  Good friend for a while then a bad frirend, then abusive.  She killed herself a few minutes after getting 2 nasty messages from this "teen"
01:24 <@dasunt> Ah, that one.
01:24 <@dasunt> Fucktards
01:25 <@Dagmar> "fajed"?
01:25 <@freakn> as per rattles recomendation .... this should be a darwin award
01:25 <@freakn> *faked, sorry
01:25 <@Dagmar> ah
01:26 <@freakn> I changed my host, free to update the ignore
01:29 <@freakn> CNN has been on a loop over here.  Just catching things I care about.  Some intrseting movements amongst the kids running for president.  The zamboni blowing up is probably the best part of the news tonight.
01:30 <@Dagmar> It's still early
01:30 <@Dagmar> There'll be some genuinely horrifying crimes against humanity on later tonight as the Middle East wakes up
01:33 <@freakn> Iran will be waking up to the report showing the Iran Pres backed down while Washington kept harping over what is now nothing.  He'll be saying something
01:33 <@freakn> ... report showing Iran stoped it's nuclear misscle program back in 03
01:36 <@dasunt> Yah.
01:37 <@juice> this is messed up I am in a town of like maybe 10,000 people
01:37 <@Dagmar> This is because without something that *sounds* like something, Bush won't be able to get anyone else to buy in on his plan to invade Iran "for stability"
01:37 <@juice> and there have been 2 people killed in the past 2 weeks
01:37 <@juice> one shot and the other one beat to death
01:39 <@dasunt> At this point, an Iran war is off the table.
01:39 <@dasunt> Best Bush could do is border clashes.
01:40 <@juice> An argument between two Hispanic male cooks at the Mandarin restaurant, the strange thing about this is this is a Chinese Restaurant
01:42 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Oh I'm sure h'll make something up by November
01:42 <@freakn> Folks like Ron Paul saying get all our force out.  THe bui8lding blocks for grassrouts stabization is coming in.  Give people a voice on the internet abd that voice will travel.  Others with hte same problem will hear it, feel it, and act with it.  These new peope can display their joint meeting, and then do more.
01:43 <@freakn> people with voices in groups are dangerous when you give them guns
01:43 <@dasunt> Dagmar: I don't think we have the army for it.
01:44 <@Dagmar> That doesn't matter to Bush
01:45 <@dasunt> s/when you give them guns//
01:50 <@Mirage> http://www.fukung.net/v/5931/1183918277338.gif
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01:51 <@ShadowHntr> damn seizures.
01:51 <@ShadowHntr> knocked me down even when i didn't know i had em.
01:56 <@ShadowHntr> brb
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01:57 <@juice> hey Catonic
01:57 <@Catonic> http://www.sugargirlsandseamen.com/2007/06/gentoos-of-distinction.html
01:58 <@Catonic> I have never been more amused at the name of a Linux distro.
01:58 <@Catonic> sup juiceman
01:58 <@juice> not much
01:58 <@juice> graduating college on dec 14th :)
01:58 <@Catonic> Cool..
01:58 <@Catonic> At this rate, I will likely never graduate.
01:58 <@juice> why is that?
01:59 <@Catonic> meh.
02:01 <@freakn> I graduate again on the 16th
02:01 <@juice> :)
02:01 <@juice> cool
02:04 <@dasunt> Catonic: ROTFLMAO.
03:48 <+coil> dasunt: what you drinking
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06:57 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
07:13  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
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07:35 < ware> sshh
07:37 < ware> Greetings. I came across your resume from an on-line resume database and is contacting you regarding a SQL Server DBA role.
07:37 < ware> Salary 75 - 100K.
07:37 < ware> woohoo
07:37  * ware does the masterbation motion and throws it on DBA
07:41 <@dc0de> mronin
07:45 <@rattle> Wow.  I'm sure I've made jokes about blind phone phreaks before..  http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/12/blind-hacker-sa.html
07:46 < ware> http://se2600.myminicity.com/
07:47 < ware> we can do better than that
07:47 <@dc0de> <Mirage> yeah, women should only get 3 days max too...or men 3-6 months
07:47 <@dc0de> <dasunt> The sad thing is that I bet the same people who argue that it is
07:47 <@dc0de>           expected that women need time off work to raise their families are
07:47 <@dc0de>           the same people who bitch that men make more.
07:47 <@dc0de> <dasunt> Well congrats, you're advocating a system where men are, by la<Mirage> yeah, women should only get 3 days max too...or men 3-6 months
07:47 <@dc0de> <dasunt> The sad thing is that I bet the same people who argue that it is
07:47 <@dc0de>           expected that women need time off work to raise their families are
07:47 <@dc0de>           the same people who bitch that men make more.
07:47 <@dc0de> <dasunt> Well congrats, you're advocating a system where men are, by la<Mirage> yeah, women should only get 3 days max too...or men 3-6 months
07:47 <@dc0de> <dasunt> The sad thing is that I bet the same people who argue that it is
07:47 <@dc0de>           expected that women need time off work to raise their families are
07:47 <@dc0de>           the same people who bitch that men make more.
07:47 <@dc0de> <dasunt> Well congrats, you're advocating a system where men are, by la<Mirage> yeah, women should only get 3 days max too...or men 3-6 months
07:47 < ware> rut roh
07:48 <@dc0de> <dasunt> The sad thing is that I bet the same people who argue that it is
07:48 <@dc0de>           expected that women need time off work to raise their families are
07:48 <@dc0de>           the same people who bitch that men make more.
07:48 <@dc0de> <dasunt> Well congrats, you're advocating a system where men are, by la<Mirage> yeah, women should only get 3 days max too...or men 3-6 months
07:48 <@dc0de> <dasunt> The sad thing is that I bet the same people who argue that it is
07:48 <@dc0de>           expected that women need time off work to raise their families are
07:48 <@dc0de>           the same people who bitch that men make more.
07:48 < ware> haha are you okay dc0de
07:49 <@dc0de> I have no idea...
07:49 <@brimstone> dc0de's got a thing for dasunt!
07:49 <@brimstone> dc0de's got a thing for dasunt!
07:49 <@brimstone> dc0de's got a thing for dasunt!
07:50 <@dc0de> my xsession wouldn't work right...
07:50 <@dc0de> had to reset...
07:50 <@dc0de> mouse, keyboard were all messed up.
07:52 <@brimstone> i'm sure
07:52 <@dc0de> or I just luv dasunt?
07:54 < ware> i luv dasunt
07:58 <@dc0de> ware we can do better...
07:59 <@dc0de> we gotta get rid of the dirt roads
08:01 < ware> createmycity.myminicity.com has 6400 lol they had 5200 yesterday
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08:04 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, h0 h0 h0ez!
08:08 <@dc0de> ho ho kho!
08:12 < ware> http://www.tfot.info/pod/199/virtual-reality-real-pain.html
08:14 < ware> we need to get one of those
08:19 <@dc0de> ware we need to make a cheaper version... 50-100k? for polycarbonate?
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08:35 <@SkyDog_> Morning again.
08:35  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ again
08:35 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
08:36 <@dc0de> w00f
08:36 <@SkyDog_> Are we having fun yet?
08:37 <@ladymerlin> whee
08:39 <@SkyDog_> Pretty muchl.
08:40 <@SkyDog_> Morning Mudflap!
08:48 < ware> wheeeeee
08:48 <@SkyDog_> What's up ware? Making it?
08:48 < ware> shitbarely
08:49 <@SkyDog_> Oh, I need to get those CD's for the tablet PC that you sold me.
08:49 <@SkyDog_> The hard drive is acting up.
08:51 < ware> hrmm ill have to look for em but im sure theyre around somewhere
08:51 <@SkyDog_> If you can, being them to the meeting on Friday.
08:51 < ware> k
08:51 <@SkyDog_> Other than that, how's work? Still fighting the man?
08:53 < ware> yeah theyre getting on my case about stupid shit
08:53 < ware> i work OT and dont get compensated, get off my nuts about the little shit
08:53 < ware> i get my work done and then some
08:53 < ware> but im enjoying it
08:54 < ware> cracked 4 wep wlans yesterday at my apt
08:54 <@SkyDog_> What are they on your ass about?
08:59 < ware> a gal here has been lagging on an exchange defrag
09:00 < ware> so i called her 4 times yesterday after i got off work to ask about it then she calls back at 545 and says go ahead and do it tonight while im in the middle of a movie
09:00 < ware> then i forgot
09:00 < ware> not like it cant wait another day since its been 2 weeks
09:00 < ware> but its more due to the fact shes an annoying cunt
09:00 < ware> not so much that i missed the job
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09:01 < ware> and her brother is my boss, ex sergant airforce asshole
09:01 <@SkyDog_> Ah. gotta be careful. If you tell someone you're gonna do something, they are going to hold you to it.
09:01 < ware> who expects me to be his e1 bitch hehe
09:01 < ware> i know it was my bad but they dont have to treat me like a convict who took 2 pieces bread
09:02 <@SkyDog_> ware: Well, in business, your word is everything.
09:02 <@SkyDog_> Whether you work over for 4 hours, or not, they want you to do what you say you will.
09:02 <@SkyDog_> Just a piece of advice. You'll see over time.
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09:05 <@dc0de> ware set it up as a scheduled task to run at 1am in the morning, and tell her it's going to happen .
09:05 < ware> owa exchange 07 is schaweeet
09:06 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:07 < ware> howdy
09:07 < ware> SkyDog_: hows HC rollin
09:12 <@SkyDog_> ware: Not too bad. Getting a mailing list going at the moment.
09:13 <@SkyDog_> Getting more equipment by the week.
09:14 <@brimstone> SkyDog_, which mailing list software?
09:15 <@SkyDog_> mailman.
09:17 <@brimstone> yay! mailman!
09:18 <@SkyDog_> Whew. I figured I was about to get slammed for using it over majordomo...
09:18 <@brimstone> you've dodge the hammer this time
09:19 <@SkyDog_> damn. It's about time.
09:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Nothing wrong with mailman.  At least it's not ezmlm
09:28 <@Dolemite> SFW - LOL Santa - http://www.collegehumor.com/article:1745396/
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09:33 <@Dagmar> Except you'll regret having seen the next to last image.
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09:42 <@seeblind> m0nin everybody
09:44 <@SkyDog_> Morning seeblind!
09:44 <@seeblind> Haya SkyDog, whatcha know that is good?
09:44 <@SkyDog_> Not a damn thing. Check your email.
09:45 < ware> giraffes are good!
09:46 <@seeblind> I heard on the news that a kangaroo escaped in Texas, funny vid of the capture
09:46 <@seeblind> s/capture/recapture
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10:12 <@baudburn> *sigh*
10:13 <@shadowmoss> ping
10:17 <@baudburn> why does nothing ever work the way it should
10:19 <@SkyDog_> Baudburn, reality check... "B". Need I say more?
10:19 <@baudburn> heh
10:19 <@baudburn> shush you
10:20 <@SkyDog_> well? can you argue that one?
10:20 <@baudburn> i could, but it would be feeble at best
10:20 <@SkyDog_> Damn skippy.
10:24 <@baudburn> but still.. a man can bitch about work sometimes, can't he?
10:26 <@SkyDog_> What, like that isn't what we do all of the time around here?
10:26 <@SkyDog_> We need to go kick someone's slats in?
10:26 <@baudburn> yeah, my computer
10:27 <@baudburn> heh
10:27 <@baudburn> i gotta come up with some kind of non-linear scaling because scaling the alpha channel of a color doesn't appear visually linear
10:27 <@baudburn> and i wanted it to just work..
10:28 <@SkyDog_> Go take a walk, get a cup of chai. A better solution will come to you.
10:28 <@SkyDog_> just step back from the problem for a few and go watch skirts and boots for a bit.
10:28 <@baudburn> skirts and boots?
10:28 <@sdodson> cpr training yay
10:29 <@SkyDog_> THe hot chicks in dallas.
10:29 <@sdodson> emo kids?
10:30 <@baudburn> heh.. but, boots?
10:30 <@baudburn> i guess they do like to wear those ugg boots.. god do i hate that
10:30 <@baudburn> it's incredible how dumb those look
10:30 <@ladymerlin> hehe i agree with you
10:31 <@SkyDog_> Nah. Maybe it's not cold enough in your area yet.
10:31 <@critch> Hey, some chick at Starbucks Friday night had these knee high boots on, and damn it was hot.
10:31 <@SkyDog_> and Ugg boots are not boots. They are imitation poodles that you stick your foot up their ass.
10:32 <@ladymerlin> lol
10:32 <@baudburn> heh
10:32 <@baudburn> yeah..
10:32 <@SkyDog_> critch: What, no pics?
10:32 <@SkyDog_> you bastard!
10:32 <@critch> no camera phone
10:32 <@baudburn> actually, their name is quite apropos..
10:32 <@baudburn> everytime i see them.. it makes me say "ugh..."
10:33 <@critch> Once you get a bike, you can come out with us on Fridays too. Chat with the sweet Sara and Cupcake that works at the Starbucks
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10:34 <@sdodson> not sure what to rhink of a biker named cupcake
10:34 <@critch> She isn't a biker, she is a coffee wench at starbucks
10:35 <@critch> she is interesting, and from near St Louis.
10:35 <@critch> Sara on the other hand, she would make a good biker, and she has traveled extensivly already.
10:35 <@baudburn> honestly, who uses the word wench to describe anyone these days
10:35 <@baudburn> heh
10:36 <@critch> Well, there is a whole group of women in our club that are "Road Wenches" and they wear a patch to prove it.
10:36 <@critch> There is a whole list of rules they must live by to get the patch too.
10:37 <@baudburn> that's.. special
10:37 <@Dagmar> Well, if you're using BitchX, it doesn't go out to a channel *unless* you add -o
10:37 <@Dagmar> wrong channel
10:38  * critch thinks we need a "Are you sure?" dialog ala vista for Dagmar to write into channels
10:39 <@SkyDog_> hehe!
10:39 <@SkyDog_> Can we color code his irssi windows?
10:45 <@Dolemite> Ok, enough meetings for a while
10:49 <@baudburn> hey SkyDog_, how you liking that macbook?
10:52 < ware> rofl just made the vp's new outlook sig
10:52 < ware> and i marked out his old position with the paintbrush and painted in 'vice prez!' with an arrow hahaha
10:54 <@SkyDog_> baudburn: Loving it.
10:55 <@SkyDog_> Waiting on the ITS crew to migrate my email to exchange.
10:55 <@SkyDog_> then I'll be able to use my cell phone and mac alot easier.
10:55 <@SkyDog_> I know, M$ sucks ass.
10:55 <@SkyDog_> Too bad they have the only integrated calendar and email system that works.
10:55 <@Dolemite> Man, those are some slow mother fuckers, aren't they?
10:56 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, they are.
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10:56 <@SkyDog_> Of course, they may have sent ralph an email about it, and he's out today.
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10:56 <@Dolemite> You can always call Partner Support to check on it
10:57 <@SkyDog_> true. Or I could just give you shit about it in channel and ensure it will never get done. :)
10:58 <@Dolemite> Seeing as how I have nothing to do with the group that does the migration, yeah, you can bitch at me and it will make zero difference.
10:59 <@SkyDog_> :P
10:59 <@SkyDog_> I am calling them...
10:59 <@SkyDog_> We still good for lunch?
11:00 <@Dolemite> Yeah, you about ready?
11:00 <@Dolemite> I kind of need to be back in my office at noon
11:00 <@Dolemite> shift change and all that jazz
11:00 <@SkyDog_> Ok, bagging this call to PS.
11:00 <@SkyDog_> Meet you in the commons in a few mins.
11:00 <@Dolemite> Ok
11:00 <@Dolemite> You can always swing by and ask them in person after lunch
11:01 <@SkyDog_> True.
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11:07 <@nachoguy> urg!
11:08 <@nachoguy> so, someone was sending out emails with a graphic as a background
11:08 <@nachoguy> ... a 21 mb bmp graphic
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11:14 <@GodFix> disable html and rtf e-mails
11:17 < ware> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottjohnson/1236388683/in/set-72157601200807582/
11:17 <@critch> sweet, just received my bonus from the bank, $740
11:18 <@critch> damn, now it is just too tempting to go buy a new laptop
11:18 <@nachoguy> I wanted to take away outlook and give her pine, but I was over-ruled
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11:21 <@Evilpig> I need to get my bonus check to the bank.  the taxes on it kicked my ass
11:22 < wsmith> mutt++
11:22 < wsmith> ncurses goodnesas
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11:44 < ware> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=499367&in_page_id=1811
11:44 < ware> eww
11:47 <@GodFix> which is a better SAN, Hitachi AMS or EMC CX series?
11:51 <@dc0de> GodFix EMC CX is the ferrarri
11:53 < NotLarry> ok, who's selling their xbox 360 for drug money?
11:57 <@GodFix> dc0de: so you'd prefer a CX3-10C ver an AMS200?
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11:58 < ware> http://www.amazon.com/Digilife-Fold-Up-Compact-Speakers-Travel/dp/B000BSOBG0/ref=nosim/tinasuphotogr-20
11:59 <@dc0de> GodFix the only thing to bear in mind, is that EMC charges for each system that connects to the SAN, if you use their advanced software, how is the hitachi priced?
12:02 < ware> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/212LDz3vJLL._SS500_.jpg
12:02 < ware> hahaha
12:02 <@GodFix> they do the same
12:03 <@dc0de> GodFix if price is the issue, you might want to look at the IBM SAN solutions...
12:03 <@dc0de> all the software is included...
12:04 <@dc0de> GodFix http://www.nasi.com/IBM_FAStT-features.php#Model200
12:04 <@GodFix> price is within 10K of each other
12:05 <@dc0de> ahh, then go for the EMC... it's really the higher end solution.
12:11 <@Dagmar> Tell 'em "Back it up or suck it up, users!"
12:15 < ware> anyone have ruby on rails on a box i could test
12:23 <+coil> that pic is too small
12:24 <+coil> ruby on rails?
12:24  * shadowmoss yawns
12:35 <@nachoguy> ick
12:36 <@nachoguy> the random rotating cube next to mine (we're currently building new offices and shuffling people in the meantime) is currently occupied by someone who seems to have found the most rancid chinese food in all of Chicago
12:40 <@rhia> failed Darwin Award wannabe:
12:40 <@rhia> http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695233078,00.html
12:40 <@rhia> ~minilink
12:40 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/deseretnews.com/MJFfI.html
12:40 <@rhia> not much shorter
12:40 <@wontonjoe> morning noon er whatever
12:40 <@wontonjoe> the laundromat has wifi,sweetness
12:42 <@dc0de> rhia I guess you don't talk shit about the Utah gangs.
12:42 <@dc0de> rhia glad to see they're keeping it real in Utah
12:43  * coil sneezes on utah
12:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Is it possible he's trying to start a Fight Club?
12:45 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig if he is, he broke the first rule! "Don't talk about fight club!"
12:46 <@baudburn> OMG, i want to kill co workers.
12:46 <@baudburn> must control rage.
12:46 <@dc0de> baudburn trying to start "Kill Club"?
12:47 <@SkyDog_> Rage taking over....
12:47 <@Corydon76-dig> ...turning green...
12:47 <@wontonjoe> dont make me angry, you wouldnt like me when im angry
12:47 <@baudburn>  yeah..
12:48 <@SkyDog_> baudburn: We still love you man.
12:48 <@baudburn> i've been pioneering this new UI
12:48 <@SkyDog_> You getting shot down?
12:48 <@baudburn> no.. it's been very successful
12:49 <@baudburn> but now my boss has turned it loose to the other 2 developers
12:49 <@baudburn> and they're already fucking thigns up
12:49 <@Corydon76-dig> If is no' Scottish, is CRAP!!
12:49 <@baudburn> and wanting ot change how it works
12:49 <+coil> scotch
12:49 <@rhia> wow, what a name: http://lnk.nu/news-record.com/gzi
12:50 <@baudburn> basically, this is gonna suck
12:50 <@baudburn> because i don't trust the people i work with one bit to make code that doesn't suck
12:50 <@baudburn> le *sigh*
12:50 <@dc0de> rhia Yeah, I'd never name a bar "Jabs Ultra Bar".
12:52 <@rhia> heh
12:53 <@wontonjoe> jabs?
12:53 <@rhia> Born God Supreme Thompson - no wonder Jack Thompson is upset, someone else has the name he wanted
12:54 <@wontonjoe> so did i tell you guys i got my core2duo macbook last thursday
13:02 <@rattle> Question..  SNMP for w2k hosts.  Out of the box, it just does interface stats.  I've seen several programs that add on the capability of getting cpu, memory, disk, etc..  Anyone have any preferences for which SNMP software addon is best?
13:02 <@rattle> And free..
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13:12 <@SkyDog_> Cacti
13:12 <+coil> SkyDog_: eat some
13:13 <@SkyDog_> Lick it!
13:13 <@rattle> I'm using Cacti..
13:13 <+coil> owww
13:13 <@rattle> It's the w3k snmp agent that seems to be the problem.
13:13 <@rattle> Or I just have the wrong oids..
13:13 <@rattle> Which is possible..
13:18 <@rattle> Nevermind.  I'm just missing some wmi-fu.
13:18 <@dc0de> grrr. stupid cat
13:19 <@dc0de> walked over the power switch on a power strip that powers the downstairs WAP.... *poof* connectivity vaporizes...
13:19 <@dc0de> arrogant animal.
13:19 <@dc0de> rattle use wmi
13:24 < ware> http://www.revleft.com/index.php?s=9a664b7f173fa8740c26fb3a69645d65&showtopic=73808&st=0&#entry1292426987
13:26 < ware> Evilpig: what was that link to your cacti setup
13:29 <@wontonjoe> ware used to be a girl!
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13:42 <@dc0de> wontonjoe you use to be a guy.
13:42 <+coil> you want some ice for that BURN, wontonjoe ?
13:45 <@polerin> fuckinA.  might have a line on a new job
13:45 <@dc0de> polerin where?
13:45 <@polerin> network security shop in nashville
13:45 <@dc0de> sweet
13:46 <@polerin> hellz yeah.  entry level stuff, but fuck that.. i'm entry level NOW
13:46 < ware> wontonjoe: where is that vid!
13:46 <@dc0de> at least you'd have a better chance of advancement?
13:46 <@polerin> I'd assume
13:46 < ware> polerin: i got job offers in my inbox if you want me to fwd them to you
13:46 <@polerin> and if nothing else, I learn markitable skills and have an actually helldesk job under my belt, with that nice buzzword of "security" :p
13:47 < ware> everything from net admin to dba to helpdesk to network engineer
13:47 <@seeblind> polerin: what is the name of the firm?
13:47 <@polerin> <_<
13:48 <@polerin> I'll tell you after I know if I have the job
13:48 <@polerin> heheh
13:48 <@polerin> Gollum gollum.
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13:49 <@polerin> Fail.
13:49 <@baudburn> mmm blueberries
13:49  * polerin chews on baudburn's elbow
13:49 <@seeblind> heheh, not looking to scab the position.  Just want to know if you are competition :)
13:50  * baudburn looks confused
13:51  * ware is competition
13:51 < ware> for all mankind
13:51 < ware> its just cause im so sexxaayy!!!
13:51 <@SkyDog_> ware: Cockpunch!
13:51 <@seeblind> riiiight
13:52 <@critch> SkyDog_: did you use a rubber gauntlet glove when you did that?
13:52 <@SkyDog_> No, I have some alcohol to dip my arm in.
13:52 <@critch> might need peroxide too
13:52 <@SkyDog_> Could not get the rubber gauntlet glove in my bakcpack this Am.
13:53 <@SkyDog_> critch: Good thought.
13:53 < ware> crabs are fun
13:54 < ware> they will play cards with you if youre bored
13:54 <@SkyDog_> Only if you're lonely and bored.
13:54 < ware> this bill is shit
13:54 < ware> PETA == Homegrown Terrorist
13:54 < ware> s
13:55 < ware> `(2) VIOLENT RADICALIZATION- The term `violent radicalization' means the process of adopting or promoting an extremist belief system for the purpose of facilitating ideologically based violence to advance political, religious, or social change.
13:55 < ware> Lamar Alexander: http://alexander.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.home
13:55 < ware> Bob Corker: http://corker.senate.gov/Contact/index.cfm
13:55 < ware> Phone:
13:55 < ware> Alexander - [202] 224-4944
13:55 < ware> Corker: [202] 224-3344
13:55 < ware> tell em to fix it
13:56 <@critch> I don't know if I want it fixed. Using violence to advance political religious, or social change is not to be tolerated unless it is in an effore to remove the government as a whole.
13:57 <@critch> There are non violent methods available
13:57 <@SkyDog_> agreed.
13:57 <@seeblind> critch: preach it, brutha
13:57 < ware> did you read the rest of the bill
13:57 <@critch> If one resorts to violence, then we slip back to barbarism and it becomes an arms race to get your side on top.
13:57 <@SkyDog_> Damn skippy.
13:58 <@SkyDog_> PeTA is a bunch of whackos.
13:58 <@critch> SkyDog_: agreed, it is whacko from time to time.
13:58 <@seeblind> True Freedom == Anarchy
13:59 < wsmith> Yes but does Anarchy == True Freedom?
14:00 < ware> `(3) HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
14:00 < ware> force could be anything
14:00 < ware> planned use could be thinking it, thought crimes
14:00 <@rattle> No, and no.
14:01 < wsmith> am I a "segment"?
14:01  * critch sits back and awaits the intelectual mopping of the floor with ware by rattle
14:01 <@rattle> Is it really necessary?
14:01 < ware> rattle: learns me
14:03  * wsmith takes a stroll down internet memory lane
14:03 < wsmith> badger badger badger
14:03 < ware> no youre wrong
14:03 < ware> and i dont have to explain why
14:06 <@GodFix> seeblind: I disagree, True Freedom doesn't equal Anarchy
14:07 <@seeblind> Prove it
14:07 <@GodFix> bringing my references right now
14:08 <@SkyDog_> wsmith: Fucker.
14:08 <@GodFix> Anarchy:
14:08 <@GodFix> 1.	a state of society without government or law.
14:08 <@GodFix> 2.	political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
14:08 <@GodFix> 3.	a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.
14:08 <@GodFix> 4.	confusion; chaos; disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith.
14:08 <@rattle> Ok ware..  Rather than nitpicking over the definitions section of the bill..  Explain to me what you think this bill actually does.
14:09 <@seeblind> GodFix: Define True Freedom
14:10 <@seeblind> GodFix: or just Freedom
14:10 <@GodFix> hold on
14:12  * seeblind waits for Godfix to learn to use dictionary.com
14:12 < ware> rattle: i just like to argue and start debate
14:13 < ware> i have no idea what the bill is for
14:13 <@rattle> You do know that there is a rigid legal definition for "force", correct?
14:13 < ware> yes
14:13 < ware> well id assume as much
14:13 <@rattle> [15:00] <ware> force could be anything
14:14 <@rattle> Apparently not.
14:14 < ware> planned use is what i was mean
14:14 < ware> meant*
14:14 <@seeblind> GodFix: the difference you are probably thinking of is in connotation only.  They mean the same thing.  Anarchy just has a negative connotation.
14:15 <@rattle> Planned use is specific as well..
14:15 < ware> http://research.lawyers.com/glossary/force.html
14:15 <@rattle> And example would be if you possessed a bomb and a map showing where you intended to place the bomb.
14:15 <@rattle> s/And/An/
14:16 < ware> a cause of motion, activity, or change
14:16 < ware> is force
14:16 <@rattle> Yes.  When it's a noun.
14:16 <@rattle> You really are an idiot.
14:16 < ware> hahah
14:16 <@rattle> That's in a different context.
14:16 <@seeblind> GodFix: Governments put laws in place to squander our freedoms where the freedoms negatively affect other individuals, thus there is no True Freedom
14:17 <@baudburn> nor should there be
14:18 <@baudburn> i like the fact that police are around to arrest people for breaking into my house, thanks
14:20  * GodFix smacks seeblind for not knowing I was on a phone call
14:21 <@seeblind> baudburn: I like that idea too, It seems like the current gov. has moved from protecting citizens from each other to protecting citizens from themselves and protecing the gov. from its citizens
14:21 <@GodFix> I'm gonna quit this debate, i don't have time to use my brain right now
14:21  * seeblind punches Godfix for using a girly slap
14:22 <@seeblind> GodFix: we will meet again and then a dule to the death, ;P
14:22 <@GodFix> seeblind: I'll bring the big guns next time
14:24 <@seeblind> GodFix: remember, young student, it is not the size but how it is weilded.
14:25 <@GodFix> seeblind: Aren't I older than you?
14:25 <@SkyDog_> Maybe in age.
14:26  * GodFix bends over and grabs his ankles for SkyDog, but moves quickly to avoid Corydon
14:26 <@seeblind> Don't think so.
14:27 <@GodFix> I need to remember that lunch at hardees better
14:27 <@SkyDog_> GodFix: You're on your own with that one. Not my cup of tea.
14:27 <@polerin> godfix: flag.blackened.net  <-- better definitions of anarchy
14:27 <@polerin> :P
14:27  * polerin chews on her own elbow
14:27 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: down boy
14:29 <@seeblind> GodFix: don't be submissive so easily.  It makes you look like a whore. oh that's right...
14:29 <@SkyDog_> DOH!
14:30 <@critch> submissive and whore don't equate to me. a whore is fairly aggressive at getting what she wants.
14:30 <@SkyDog_> I dunno. I had one be pretty smooth about it.
14:30 <@Corydon76-dig> critch: you mean slut.  Whores get paid.
14:30 <@seeblind> okay critch s/whore/slut
14:30 <@critch> while a whore might play the part of a submissive, it is still in aggressive pursuit of what they want
14:31 <@SkyDog_> HOw about we just use the word *bitch*
14:31 <@critch> I still think the same applies to slut, their pursuit is just for a different goal
14:32 <@critch> SkyDog_: and how many bitches have you known that are submissive?
14:32 <@seeblind> critch: so pulling down your pants and grabbing your ankles is not an invite?
14:32 <@SkyDog_> Few, hench the reason I only seem to have dated bitches.
14:32 <@critch> seeblind: I didn't say it wasn't an invite, but I do say that isn't being submissive.
14:33 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : You take that back, I am *not* a bitch.
14:33 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: or a grade school show and tell gone wrong.
14:34 <@seeblind> critch: point conceeded.
14:35 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Yeah, who is who's bitch?
14:36 <@critch> ohh, shit, Verizon is moving to GSM, did the worl end today?
14:36 <+coil> WHAT?~~?
14:36 <+coil> vzw gsm/>!!?
14:36 <+coil> nooo i love my evdo (when i had it)
14:39 <@critch> I think /. has it wrong. so far I haven't been able to track down the line that says it in the linked articles.
14:42 <@Shadow_Phone> i wanan go home, all my work is done, just waiting for replies
14:44 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, so instead of looking busy, im listening to streaming music and dazing out on irc
14:50 <@polerin> no it's not GSM iirc, it's just opening it's network to other devices.  think I saw it on ars the other day
14:51 <@critch> I see what /. screwed up, it is a new tech they plan on implementing and they assumed it meant GSM.
14:51 <@critch> Something about UMTS
14:52 < wsmith> ring ring ring ring. ... banana phone!
14:52 < ware> ring ring ring SHUT THE FUCK UP
14:52 <+coil> hahahaahah
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14:52 <+coil> ware stfu
14:52 <@brimstone> my dog pinto likes to roam
14:52 <@Shadow_Phone> awl
14:52 < ware> !!!!
14:52 < ware> http://u.nf/~w/pintobean.wav
14:52 < ware> i think
14:53 <@Shadow_Phone> my cat rascal like to roam
14:53  * coil leaves to go do some errands
14:54 < ware> http://stonermoments.org/pinto-bean.wav
15:12 <@SkyDog_> Anyone used XenServer yet?
15:14 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: I will be in about a month
15:15 <@SkyDog_> Ah. I am installing it now. Seemed to be pretty straightforward when I read about it.
15:17 <@Evilpig> bah.  something is fucked with my perl install
15:17 <@Evilpig> it can't find net::ftp
15:18 <@critch> did you update lately?
15:18 <@Dagmar> Check for the file
15:18 <@Evilpig> yeah it updated.  checking now to see what broke
15:19 <@Evilpig> looks like it updated to 5.8.8 ?
15:19 <@Dagmar> Oooh
15:19 <@Dagmar> just spank cpan over it
15:19 <@Evilpig> ---> Package perl.i386 4:5.8.8-27.fc7 set to be updated
15:19 <@Evilpig> having to upgrade perl first.  cause cpan is what is freaking out.  so doing a yum install perl first
15:20 <@Dagmar> Yeah, but I mean the upgrade of perl had the potential to have broken it
15:20 <@Evilpig> once perl is fixed.  i'll cpan update all
15:21 <@critch> Evilpig: do you still have the patch for that library you and I worked on?
15:21 <@Evilpig> yup
15:21 <@critch> okay
15:21 <@Evilpig> I wrote that shit down cause I knew I would have to do it again
15:22 <@critch> that was smart
15:22 <@Evilpig> I have occasional flashes of intelligence
15:22 <@critch> any suggestions for a new laptop?
15:22 <@Evilpig> get one you can get easy support for.  at least that is what I tell all the customers
15:23 <@critch> well, OS support isn't a question, it will be hardware support at best. My HP died just a month or so outside of warranty.
15:23 <@Evilpig> easy support for me is easy to get replacement parts without shipping it off to someone
15:25 <@SkyDog_> I agree.
15:25 <@SkyDog_> critch: Sony if you have the cash. IBM if you want sturdy, rock solid, but don't have sony cash. Dell if you want disposable.
15:25 < MudFlap> SkyDog:  Got the second rack today- perfect shape.  Locking side panels.
15:25 <@Evilpig> there is always the toughbook
15:25 <@Evilpig> I saw them pushing those on TV the other day
15:26 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: I love you in the most NON-GAY way whatsoever.
15:26 <@Evilpig> by non-gay he means he wants to put the tip in
15:26 <@SkyDog_> But the toughbook is not as fast as the newest stuff, is it?
15:26 <@Evilpig> but just the tip. and he isnt' gonna kiss you after
15:26 <@Evilpig> I don't think the point of the toughbook is the latest hardware.
15:27 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: I agree, but that's alot to give up to be able to drag it behind the motorcycle as compared to carrying it in a backpack.
15:28 <@Evilpig> it's worth a look they showed a whole product line I hadn't ever seen before.  I am used to the old toughbooks that are like 4" thick and can stop a bullet.  they showed some small ones with table style screens
15:28 <@Evilpig> LWP failed with code[500] message[Errno architecture (i386-linux-thread-multi-2.6.20-1.2962.fc6xen) does not match executable architecture (i386-linux-thread-multi-2.6.20-1.3001.fc6xen) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/Errno.pm line 11.
15:28 <@Dagmar> Yay for CPAN
15:28 <@critch> FC for the die
15:29 <@Evilpig> something got a bad update best I can tell.  cause I am not running fc6.  it should be fc7  not sure where the xen in coming from
15:33 <@critch> just looked up those toughbooks, Looks like starting price is $3k. I'd rather buy a new $1k laptop every year than one and deal with it for 3 years
15:33 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Uninstall perl, then nuke the directories where all it's old stuff was
15:33 <@Dagmar> Otherwise you get to play the game of the broken object minesweeper
15:34 <@Evilpig> that's what I was about to do.  but perl is a large one to remove
15:35 <@Dagmar> Enh a few minutes
15:35 <@Dagmar> At least you're not having to build a new perl package from source to test it
15:36 <@Dagmar> That's always fun.
15:36 <@Dagmar> I've had to do that on old IRIX machines.
15:37 <@Evilpig> I can't just rpm -e perl.  cause it is tied into gnome and everything.  I guess I could force it.  but I have alot of perl modules.  making a list now so I can rebuild them all 
15:38 <@brimstone> why just spend 10 minutes and rebuild your code in ruby on rails?
15:38 <@Evilpig> brb
15:38 <@critch> because not all perl code is web based
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15:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Sometimes execution time is what you want to save
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15:42 <@Dagmar> Umm... lots of us use perl because there's so little you have to actually write
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15:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Maybe in another 5 years, the Ruby developers will realize that execution time matters and they'll finally fix ruby
15:43 <@Evilpig> well that was worth a shot.  I was hoping it was just having a ram fuckup after the storm this past weekend and just needed a reboot
15:46 <@Evilpig> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-perl-devel-list/2007-June/msg00081.html
15:47 <@polerin> perl on rails?
15:47 <@polerin> heh
15:47 <@polerin> how well does it emulate the RoR?
15:47 <@brimstone> there's cake
15:47 <@polerin> yes I know
15:47 <@polerin> I use cake.
15:47 <@Dagmar> I've no idea, but I bet there was a lot of beer involved in it
15:48 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: That basically just confirms that it's the stale modules you installed with CPAN that are at fault, but....
15:48 <@Dagmar> that does at least bring up that they might all be in site_perl
15:48 <@Dagmar> You might be able to get things working again with an rm of the dir
15:48 <@critch> Well, I am sure it could build perl up to current RoR conventions, but perl won't be ruby and therefore I doubt you can do some of the more slick operations.
15:48 <@Dagmar> http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-perl-devel-list/2007-June/msg00096.html <-- this is one of the more stupid things I've heard
15:50 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Blame Redhat for this buggery
15:50 <@Dagmar> If they weren't so hell bent on versioning the holy bejeezus out of the binary, LWP would have not broken
15:51 <@Evilpig> yup.  okay so I have a simple fix it seems.  fuckers
15:52 <@Dagmar> Errno.pm actually has a check in it that doesn't have to be THAT detailed
15:52 <@Dagmar> What gets checked against on Slack 11, for instance, is just i486-linux-2.4.31
15:52 <@Evilpig> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=245592#c9
15:53 <@Dagmar> Is he HIGH?
15:53 <@Dagmar> No wait.  I see
15:54 <@Dagmar> Yeah, he's high.
15:57 <@Dagmar> THey would not have this problem if they left out the bloody "-1.2962.fc6xen" stuff
15:58 <@Evilpig> there seems to be fixed
15:58 <@Evilpig> yeah they put the sub-kernel version in there
15:58 <@Evilpig> for whatever fuckin' reason
15:58 <@Dagmar> To basically force a rebuild if you changed perl
15:58 <@Evilpig>   There's a new CPAN.pm version (v1.9205) available!
15:58 <@Evilpig>   [Current version is v1.7602]
15:58 <@Evilpig>   You might want to try
15:58 <@Evilpig>     install Bundle::CPAN
15:58 <@Evilpig>     reload cpan
15:58 <@Evilpig>   without quitting the current session. It should be a seamless upgrade
15:58 <@Evilpig>   while we are running...
15:59 <@Evilpig> now that it's fixed lemme break it again
15:59 <@Dagmar> It should stay working until you upgrade the core perl pakcage again
16:00 <@Dagmar> Someone should email that URL to Larry Wall and ask him for comment.  ;)
16:05 <@Evilpig> I love watching it build at times.
16:05 <@Evilpig> t/inbox..............ok 3/3 skipped: fix this next release
16:05 <@Dagmar> heh
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16:28 <@nachoguy> ~weather 60606
16:28 <+MxZBot> It's Overcast in Cabrini Green, Chicago, Illinois. It's 32.8 F (1 M, 0 C, 273 K).
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16:38 <@SkyDog_> Ok. my eyes are burning.
16:38 <@SkyDog_> I've been staring at monitors too long today.
16:38 <@brimstone> i'll take 'em
16:38 <@brimstone> i could use another couple feet of real estate
16:41 <@GodFix> I've got 10' of real estate at my desk
16:41 <@GodFix> 5 24" widescreen HD monitors
16:42 <@SkyDog_> GodFix: And you should only be using 24" of it.
16:42 <@SkyDog_> Well, 48" of it.
16:42 <@SkyDog_> the three 24" monitors are for nagios, ntop and such.
16:42 <@brimstone> nagios has it's own 24"?
16:43 <@GodFix> I didn't say I was PERSONALLY using them all
16:43 <@brimstone> how much crap do you monitor?
16:43 <@GodFix> yeah, Nagios has it's own
16:43 <@brimstone> and isn't that the point of nagios emailing you?
16:43 <@brimstone> so you don't have to watch stuff all the time?
16:43 <@GodFix> the monitor is to impress teh execs
16:43 <@critch> brimstone: sometimes you need to look over the stats so you can plan ahead
16:44 <@SkyDog_> What if nagios goes into warning mode alot, but never into a system down condition?
16:44 <@GodFix> they like the pretty colors
16:44 <@SkyDog_> You'd never see that.
16:44 <@critch> SkyDog_: have you looked at hyperic?
16:44 <@brimstone> but still, does it have to be open all the time?
16:44 <@GodFix> brimstone: it does when you have crap going down all the time
16:44 <@SkyDog_> critch: What isit?
16:45 <@brimstone> sounds like you have problems a 24" monitor isn't going to fix GodFix
16:45 <@SkyDog_> Vandy keeps it open on a projector screen 24/7
16:45 <@GodFix> I didn't say I HAD those problems, just hypothetically speaking
16:45 <@SkyDog_> brimstone: They're watching a fair amount of equipment.
16:45 <@GodFix> not that i don't have them either
16:45 <@GodFix> right now we've got NTOP on 3 screens
16:46 <@SkyDog_> I have my own personal nagios server that I never look at, I just get alerts from.
16:46 <@GodFix> monitoring 3 different network segments
16:46 <@SkyDog_> THEY need to watch their stuff all the time.
16:46 <@critch> SkyDog_: hyperic is a much slicker in my opinion version of nagios
16:46 <@critch> its draw back is it is written in java
16:47 <@SkyDog_> Ah.
16:52 <@critch> SkyDog_: check out http://www.hyperic.com/
16:52 <@critch> They recently came out with a nagios import utility
16:55 <@SkyDog_> well, their website sucks ass.
16:56 <@critch> why is that?
16:56 <@SkyDog_> I cannot get to the demo page.
16:57 <@SkyDog_> Nevermind. Fucking javascript.
16:58 <@critch> even then, they don't let you play on a live demo since it could be made to spam the shit out of unsuspecting users
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17:09 <@SkyDog_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57DdviStOFo  <--- SFW but funny as hell.
17:12 <@Catonic> We need to have a nagios users conference. My Org won't(can't) buy alcohol. Anyone else know how to make the pain go away?
17:12 < vapor_la1> I love our surf control here at my work.
17:12 < vapor_la1> its a roll of the dice as to what sites you will get denied access to each day
17:13 < vapor_la1> no youtube today but it had no problems the last two weeks.  Before that it blocked it.
17:13 <@Catonic> vapor_la1: try working in a research hospital. Spam filters don't blog viagra spam as long as it and the proper words are used to describe it.
17:13 <@Catonic> meaning spelled right.
17:13 < vapor_la1> LOL!  That rocks!
17:14 <@Catonic> the favorite hot-button subject about filtered internet is what happens when someone's mother gets breast cancer.
17:14 <@Catonic> "zomg, breast! block it!!!!"
17:15 <@Catonic> NASA has skintone detection software.
17:15 < vapor_la1> hell they are the perfect candidate for breast enhancement.
17:15 <@brimstone> Catonic, throw pictures of glazed donuts at that :P
17:15 <@Catonic> at that point, it's not really enhancement, it's more like restoration. Very good point, however.
17:16 < vapor_la1> true, its more of a reconstruction/restoration.
17:16 < vapor_la1> Political Correctness does not belong in a hospital.
17:16 <@Catonic> brimstone said "glazed donut"
17:23 <@Corydon76-dig> vapor_la1: that has nothing to do with political correctness
17:23 <@Corydon76-dig> vapor_la1: that's all about "protect the children"
17:24 <@Corydon76-dig> The children don't need protecting from language, but that's another matter entirely
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17:52 < vapor_la1> is this thing still turned on?
17:52 < vapor_la1> wheres the volume nob.  its too quiet.
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17:53 <@brimstone> http://zip.4chan.org/g/src/1196782339514.jpg for Shadow_Phone
17:54 <@dc0de> vapor_la1 pfffffft.
17:56 < vapor_la1> thx for passing wind there dc0de.  its quiet and it stinks.
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18:07 <+vapor_lap> synergy rocks.  software KVM FTW!
18:09 <+vapor_lap> I feel like have have 3 monitors at my desk.  Not 23" monitors like that bastard skydog, but still, I have three of them and its pretty cool.  Laptop (really only a 14 or 15.1), 17" to its right and then my desktops 17" to its left.
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18:14 <@SkyDog_> vapor_lap: http://129.59.212.38/Jview.htm
18:17 <@SkyDog_> Nevermind.
18:18 <+vapor_lap> yeah, it don't seem to be workin
18:18 <@SkyDog_> I turned it off.
18:18 <+vapor_lap> it wants me to log in now.
18:18 <+vapor_lap> ah
18:26 <@SkyDog_> I need more hardware in my office. Sigh.
18:28 <@ladymerlin> whee
18:42 <@sdodson> synergy is a km
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18:49 <@SkyDog_> Evening mudflap.
18:49 <@MudFlap> Evening, SkyDog
18:50 <@MudFlap> I met a guy at lunch that thought I was Corydon76's boss.
18:51 <@SkyDog_> how so?
18:51 <@MudFlap> He had be at PN and thought he recognized me via the jacket you guys gave me.
18:51 <@SkyDog_> Hmmm. what did he look like?
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18:52 <@MudFlap> Short blond haired guy.  Chris I think.
18:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Odd.  You don't look like Mark Spencer, at all
18:53 <@Corydon76-dig> MudFlap: Brentwood Academy?
18:53 <@MudFlap> Somebody you work with that probably has a lot of hair and acts like a nut.
18:53 <@MudFlap> yes, Brentwood Academy.
18:56 <@MudFlap> SkyDog: One of my side jobs is a real estate bunch.  Would HC donate work for space?
18:57 <@SkyDog_> Sure. What kinda work? Can we get corydon to do it if it's sexual in nature?
18:57 <@SkyDog_> :)
18:57 <@SkyDog_> That's kinda what we have with Days Inn, in a way.
18:58 <@MudFlap> I was thinking web, network admin, etc.  What ever we could bargin with.
18:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Sexual favors at the Days Inn?
18:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Must've been Dolemite
18:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, wait, I did fuck Jim that one year
18:59 <@SkyDog_> EWWWW! STOP!
18:59 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: We could do that.
18:59 <@SkyDog_> :)
19:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, you remember Jim?
19:00 <@MudFlap> I'm gonna see what the what happens if I chase that front.
19:01 <@SkyDog_> Sweet. Thanks Mudflap.
19:01 <@SkyDog_> Did you get on the mailing list?
19:01 <@sdodson> where da hoes at?
19:01 <@MudFlap> I don't think I have.  And I've got a lot of people interested.
19:01 <@SkyDog_> sdodson: You were supposed to bring them this time.
19:01 <@SkyDog_> It just went live today.
19:01 <@SkyDog_> blog.hackerconsortium.com
19:01 <@sdodson> Guess I'll have to lease some from ware.
19:02 <@MudFlap> Ok, I'll go get on.
19:02 <@MudFlap> Those racks are almost better than what I have.
19:03 <@SkyDog_> Coolness.
19:03 <@SkyDog_> We're still looking at time to have lunch, right?
19:04  * brimstone remembers Larry
19:04 <@MudFlap> Yes, but right now Friday is only day left.  Got get educated and stuff.
19:04 <@sdodson> brimstone: you killed larry?
19:05 <@SkyDog_> I hears ya.
19:05 <@MudFlap> Your friday open?
19:06 <@SkyDog_> Far as I know it is.
19:06 <@SkyDog_> Most of my time is cranking thru numbers lately.
19:06 <@MudFlap> Let's do that.  If you can hit my side of town I can show you the goods.
19:07 <@MudFlap> I'm looking to get a drobo.  Nice quick fix.
19:08 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: That's cool.
19:08 <@SkyDog_> Oh, what are you going to format your drobo for? NTFS, FAT32?
19:10 <@MudFlap> I was figuring NTFS, and try to hang it off a Dlink usb/network gizmo.
19:11 <@MudFlap> My other cheap option is WD Book II
19:11 <@SkyDog_> Cool. Fat32 has a 4 gig limit on filesize.
19:11 <@SkyDog_> True.
19:12 <@MudFlap> Seems like we found some tricks to bypass that when we had to Knoppix rescue a winbox, I'd have to check.
19:13 <@SkyDog_> Formatting a drive for larger than 32gigs is the issue you're thinking og.
19:13 <@SkyDog_> of.
19:13 <@brimstone> 137!
19:15 <@SkyDog_> 42!
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19:15 <@MudFlap> File size, not drive size.  Guess I should pay attention.  I'm not there on file size yet.  My bad.
19:15 <@SkyDog_> That's ok. I have been doing alot of work with it lately, that's why I know.
19:15 <@MudFlap> Wif is home, gotta go pay attention in another direction.
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20:07 <@sdodson> zomg, there's a mergemaster like plugin for yum, oh glorious days
20:08 <@rhia> sigh ... yet another one has passed
20:08  * rhia is feeling old - buried too many people
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20:09 <@sdodson> don't bury, cremate!
20:10 < Synx_hm> ugh i think 2nd gear is about to take a dump on my car, not goign to be cheap!
20:10 < Synx_hm> working 13hours days all weeks sucks btw
20:39 < Synx_hm> where the hell is everyone
20:39 <@ladymerlin> whee
20:39 <@sdodson> Synx_hm: Religious holiday.
20:40 < Synx_hm> only if jonnyx says so
20:40 <@sdodson> His holiness approves.
20:40 < Synx_hm> btw, ive never actually spoken to the guy in the chan before
20:41 <@sdodson> No one has.
20:41 < Synx_hm> hehe
20:41 <@sdodson> Some speculate he's actually a perl script.
20:41 < Synx_hm> how many days between 21 dec and 5 jan
20:41 < Synx_hm> the stig
20:43 < Synx_hm> fuck ticket prices went up 40 from yesterday
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21:03 <@brimstone> there is a religious holiday in 9 days though
21:04 <@dasunt> Woot.
21:04 <@dasunt> My shit, it works.
21:04 <@dasunt> Now, to teach lirc...
21:15 <@sdodson> http://www.tuxdeluxe.org/node/273 good read
21:23 <@dc0de> if jonnyx is a perl script, then I see things...
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21:30 <@sasquatc4> bah, theres a regligious holiday now
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21:49 < Synx_hm> wow jeff beck rocks
21:59 <@freakn> dc0de: did you say you have brewed a cider before?
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22:00 <@freakn> or ... is SkyDog around?
22:01 <@dasunt> Woot.
22:01 <@dasunt> My remote controls my living room lights.
22:03 <@sdodson> mine controls your ex
22:03 <@SkyDog_> freakn: I am here.
22:04 < Synx_hm> http://youtube.com/watch?v=z1GOWm-bN38
22:04 <@freakn> SkyDog: have you brewed a cider?
22:04 <@dasunt> I need another x10 module.
22:04 <@SkyDog_> Well, an apfelwine.
22:05 <@freakn> did the apple take any longer than normal to ferment?
22:05 <@freakn> did you use any enzymes or yeast nutrient?
22:06 < ware> BLAH!
22:06 < ware> tsshutdn a mofop
22:06  * ware kicks termservices in the eye
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22:07 <@SkyDog_> freakn: I think I had it inthe carboy for 6 weeks.
22:08 <@SkyDog_> I forget which yeast I used.
22:08 <@SkyDog_> I think a nottingham.
22:09 <@freakn> we got a champange yeast in it.  It turned out well in the 1 gallon trial.  IT went faster though.
22:09 <@freakn> We were hoping for a fextive christmas treat.  I now have a feeling mead will ferment and mature faster than cider.
22:10 <@freakn> *festive
22:10 <@SkyDog_> Yeah.
22:10 <@freakn> I guess will bottle the mead one month early
22:10 < ware> OKAY shutdown -m \\bitch 0r
22:10 <@SkyDog_> I thinkn nottingham is a champagne yeast.
22:10 <@freakn> (Put in end of May)
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22:11 <@freakn> Nottingham is an ale yeast that is thrown into home brew boxes
22:11 <@freakn> very wide range of brewing temperature
22:12 <@freakn> though, repitching this cider might make me feel better
22:12 <@SkyDog_> I think I have only a bit left in the keg inthe firdge.
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22:13 <@freakn> heh
22:13 <@SkyDog_> I have another 5 gallons of apple juice to make another batch.
22:13 <@freakn> I am still finishing off bottles of a really nice porter.  Bottles are bleaching to bottle up a new bitter in a day or two, and I guess we'll be bottling the mead this weekend.
22:14 <@freakn> I need to pick up some workwood for my next experiment
22:14 <@freakn> *wormwood
22:14 <@someninjamaster> Evening all
22:14 <@freakn> yo
22:14 <@SkyDog_> Heya SNM
22:15 <@someninjamaster> whats up
22:16 <@SkyDog_> Sitting on the couch, messing with Nagios.
22:17 < ware> ~google for n-able
22:17 <+MxZBot> Google says n-able is at http://society.big5.northeast.cn/system/2007/02/05/050695383.shtml or http://tools.wikimedia.de/~cmackenzie/onelooka.txt or http://www.dontstayin.com/chat/u-caned=2Dbut=2Dable/y-1/k-1901011
22:17 <@someninjamaster> what do you think of it
22:18 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: I use it alot. I setup a VMware server on an Ubuntu workstation.
22:18 <@someninjamaster> cool
22:18 <@SkyDog_> It's running FreeBSD 6.2, and I am setting up Nagios on that.
22:18 <@SkyDog_> It's pretty damn slick.
22:18 <@SkyDog_> I am going to see what else I can run on the box, just for fun.
22:23 <@someninjamaster> your going to end up with one of those boxes running everything under the sun
22:33 <@SkyDog_> Nah. I still like big iron.
22:35 <@sdodson> zSeries?
22:36 <@someninjamaster> do they make dry erase panels that dont have any metal in them
22:36 <@SkyDog_> I prefer one server running one OS.
22:36 <@someninjamaster> im looking for some real cheap ones
22:37 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Um, we told you before about buying the 4x8 sheets at home depot for $9 a sheet.
22:37 <@someninjamaster> where are they i searched the entire store
22:37 <@sdodson> anyone at IBM would slaughter you for calling that big iron
22:37 <@SkyDog_> In the back. It's tileboard, like is installed in bathrooms.
22:38 <@SkyDog_> sdodson: Fuck them IBM people.
22:38 <@someninjamaster> i didnt know you swung that way
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22:38 <@someninjamaster> do i need to warn bush and beast
22:38 <@SkyDog_> :P
22:39 <@someninjamaster> homedepot hides their pegboard quite well
22:40 <@seeblind> evening everybody
22:40 <@SkyDog_> yo.
22:40 <@someninjamaster> whats up seeblind
22:41 <@seeblind> just chillin after class, what up with you SNM
22:41 <@someninjamaster> buying the furnshings for my new office
22:41 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: w00f!
22:41 <@seeblind> Nice, this the same place your buys painted
22:41 <@seeblind> s/buys/boys
22:42 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
22:42 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: How hard was the VMServer install on ubuntu
22:43 <@someninjamaster> we are building a new parts room and thats what they were painting
22:44 <@someninjamaster> my office is going to be where the old parts room is
22:44 <@seeblind> cool, you need to get a wall of whiteboard.
22:44 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: Not hard at all.
22:44 <@someninjamaster> thats what my plan is
22:45 <@seeblind> SkyDog and I put in a three sheet wall for approx $80
22:46 <@someninjamaster> im going to order some of these for the room
22:46 <@someninjamaster> http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do?level=SK&id=863040
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22:49 <@Corydon76-dig> It's a Felten...
22:50 < Feltenix> and here I thought I was being original
22:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Mmmm?
22:52 <@someninjamaster> anyone know of a good deal on some 19 or 20 inch monitors
22:52 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: have I got a deal for you
22:53 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: I've got one you can have
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22:53 < Feltenix> I have a 20inch I'm not using
22:53 <@Corydon76-dig> I can bring it to the meeting on Friday
22:53 <@someninjamaster> ahh cool
22:53 <@someninjamaster> thanks
22:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Remind me Friday morning.  ;-)
22:54 <@seeblind> Corydon76-dig: make sure to wipe the porn goo off before handing off
22:54 <@Corydon76-dig> porn goo?
22:54 <@freakn> the FleshLight special sauce
22:54 <@someninjamaster> im going to go dual screen on an imac
22:54 <@someninjamaster> one screen windows the other 10.5
22:54 <@sdodson> going wher eno man has gone before
22:55 <@Corydon76-dig> I keep my dick in my pants, except when it's going in someone's ass, thankyouverymuch
22:55 <@someninjamaster> haha
22:55 <+coil> ooo burn!
22:56 <@Corydon76-dig> or mouth... point is, I keep it covered...
22:56 <@freakn> how do you use the bathroom?
22:56 <@someninjamaster> i may or may not be at the friday meething
22:56 <@someninjamaster> i dont know if i can have a sub on the bowling league
22:56 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: with good aim
22:56 <@someninjamaster> if not i have to go bowl
22:57 <@freakn> Cory: whatabout during an "Edward 40-hands" party?
22:57 <@sdodson> l38JzC@N8.2
22:57 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: a what?
22:57 <@freakn> Edward 40-hands party?
22:57 <+coil> 257
22:57 <@Corydon76-dig> You lost me
22:58 <+coil> hi
22:58 <@sasquatc4> ductape 2 40's to your hands
22:58 <@freakn> get two 40's of beer at a gas station.  Go to the party with that name.  Someone will tape the beer to your hands and then remove the tops.  You do not have use of your hands until the beer is empty
22:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Sorry, I rarely finish even a single bottle of beer anymore
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22:59 <@Corydon76-dig> Nothing with my bladder... my stomach can't take it
23:00 <@sdodson> geez, watching Jay Leno, George Clooney is on and he looks like he's 15
23:00 <@freakn> most people finish it ... there are many bladder problems and stomach problems at such a party.  With no fingers it is hard for people to get their zippers open.  Some people just give up.
23:00 <@freakn> It is an amazingly funny party to go to sober
23:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, I'm not really into guys peeing on themselves
23:01 <@dc0de> freakn the "Edward 40 hands" was done at defcon last year... and it was very foul...
23:01 <@freakn> dc0de: ha
23:04 <+coil> http://se2600.myminicity.com/
23:05 <@dc0de> as Corydon76-dig noted, people peeing on themselves, drunken idiots trying to remove their 40's, and cutting themselves by accident... (because they're drunk and think that breaking the empty bottle will allow them to remove it easier)
23:05 <@dc0de> stupid shit.
23:06 <@dc0de> http://se2600.myminicity.com/tra
23:07  * dc0de loves comp-vis
23:07  * dc0de loves comp-viz even
23:07 <+coil> what dc0de ?
23:07 <@dc0de> coil, compviz, the visualization package for linux
23:08 <+coil>  what's transports
23:08 <@freakn> are there any porn shops in se2600 city?
23:08 <+coil> hahah
23:08 <@dc0de> coil it builds more roads.
23:08 <@dc0de> we need transports at 100%
23:08 <@dc0de> and unemployment at 0%
23:08 <+coil> oh
23:08  * coil works on it
23:09 <@dc0de> to keep unemployment low, you add a /ind
23:09 <@someninjamaster> ]
23:09 <+coil> can i use the same host for /ind and /tra
23:09 <@freakn> dc0de: "Edward 40 hands" is a nice display of how well peer pressure and need for acceptance can implact a large group of other wise decently inteligent people.  The party I sat through was half Tech grad students, half undergrads ... it was funny to witness from the couch
23:09 <@dc0de> coil it works much faster if you install tor, and torify the http
23:10 <+coil> i have tor installed
23:10 <+coil> torify the http?
23:10 <@dc0de> tor includes a command called "torify"
23:10 <@dc0de> you can use it suchly, "torify wget http://se2600.myminicity.com/tra"
23:10 <@dc0de> and the traffic goes through the tor tunnel.
23:11 <+coil> i have vidalia
23:11 <@dc0de> althought, I don't know if torify is included in the windows version.
23:11 <@dc0de> check your tor directory
23:11 <+coil> on osx
23:12 <@dc0de> coil, should be there, go to the command line... and search for 'torify'
23:12 <+coil> nothign
23:12 <@Corydon76-dig> find / -name torify
23:13 <@dc0de> hrm... that sucks
23:13 <+coil> ./torify: Can't find tsocks in PATH. Perhaps you haven't installed it?
23:13 <@dc0de> coil, install tsocks.
23:14 <+coil> the fuck is that
23:14 <+coil> ~google for tsocks
23:14 <+MxZBot> Google says tsocks is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsocks/ or http://tsocks.sourceforge.net/ or http://www.linux.com/feature/54894
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23:15 <+coil> oh great i gotta compile
23:15 <@dasunt> Woot.
23:15 <@dasunt> This is fun.
23:15 <@dasunt> I need more modules.
23:18 <@dasunt> I think only one more.
23:18 <@dasunt> But the 3 packs are tempting.  <_<
23:19 <@freakn> does anyone know wwhat "fAf" means?
23:25 <@freakn> n/m, I scared the annoying internet chick away
23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: funny as fuck?
23:25 <@freakn> cory: I don't know, I don't care anymore.  I wanted a well founded come back
23:25 <@Corydon76-dig> If it was an IM, that was it
23:26 <@freakn> internet chicks can get annoying fast.  And, does anyone else get an odd itch from internet chicks?
23:26 <@freakn> that might of been why she did lots of "lol" things even though I kept saying "you are really annoying"
23:27 <@dasunt> freakn: No.
23:28 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: if you're getting an odd itch, you might want to see your doctor about that
23:28 <@freakn> already have, she poked my prostate that day, i was uncomfortable
23:29 <@Corydon76-dig> The more it's done, the more comfortable it gets
23:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Here, let me show you
23:29 <@freakn> apparantly it is swollen
23:29 <@freakn> full of infection
23:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Ouch
23:29 <@freakn> sure, you go poke it
23:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Would you like me to kiss it and make it better?
23:31 <@freakn> I think a kiss is what created the infection
23:31 <@Corydon76-dig> hypochondria
23:31 <@dasunt> Corydon76-dig: He needs a good dicking.
23:32 <@freakn> I prefer prostitus.
23:32 <@freakn> And the pills don't work that well
23:32 <@freakn> I get better ones tommorrow morning
23:32 <@Corydon76-dig> switching to Cialis?
23:33 <@freakn> cialis isn't really good on the antibiotic front
23:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Just be sure you get better before Outerz0ne
23:36 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't want to catch anything
23:36 <@sdodson> is outerzone happening?
23:36 <@freakn> awe, and i was hoping I could find someone to cuck the infection out.  Sad
23:37 <@Corydon76-dig> cuck?
23:37 <@freakn> SkyDog hasn't picked a date yet for OZ4.  Assume early Feb.
23:37 <@freakn> *suck
23:37 <@Corydon76-dig> No, March
23:37 <@freakn> eep
23:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Outerz0ne and Shmoo swapped months
23:37 <@freakn> that is good to know
23:38 <@freakn> with the nashville se2600 coming up, I am sure something might come out of it
23:38 <@Corydon76-dig> The what?
23:38 <@freakn> meeting
23:38 <@freakn> do people even go to the atlanta meeting?
23:38 <@Corydon76-dig> That'll be the election of new officers
23:38 <@SkyDog_> freakn: March.
23:39 <@freakn> SkyDog: need any help on the location and "in person rep"?
23:39 <@sdodson> i'd like to be the out of person rep
23:39 <@SkyDog_> Quite Possibly.
23:40 <@freakn> lemme know when you wanna think about it, i'll start throwing things together.  MAssive free time for me starts end of next week
23:40 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: do we want anonymous balloting on Friday?
23:41 <@Corydon76-dig> just to ensure that there's no hard feelings when people vote for the single candidate for each office?
23:42 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: What did we do last year?
23:42 <@Corydon76-dig> I think I prepared ballots and we didn't use them
23:43 <@SkyDog_> Ah. I can't remember myself.
23:43 <@someninjamaster> can i do a write in
23:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Amnesia sucks
23:43 <@SkyDog_> what did we do last year?
23:44 <@freakn> "Motion to accept by unanimous acclimation" "Any ojections?" "No objects, so thus passed"
23:44 <@SkyDog_> A show of hands?
23:44 <@Corydon76-dig> I think it was more a voice vote
23:44 <@someninjamaster> signs?
23:44  * someninjamaster makes a "anyone but SkyDog" sign
23:44 <@someninjamaster> ;)
23:44 <@Corydon76-dig> and every voice vote was unanimous, there being no alternative candidate for any position
23:45 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: would you like to run for treasurer?
23:45 <@SkyDog_> Ah. well, we can do ballots. I see no problem with it.
23:45 <@Corydon76-dig> Or secretary?
23:45 <@someninjamaster> i would like to
23:46 <@someninjamaster> but i really dont know what my year looks like
23:46 <@someninjamaster> theres a possablity i may be moving
23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: if you had suggested to SkyDog a year ago that he would be working for Vandy now, he would have laughed merrily
23:46 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: I don't think any of us really knows what the coming year brings
23:48 <@freakn> Cory: any chance can we fast forward to March so I can see new battlestar galactica?
23:48 <@freakn> I know that is there, and i really really wanna see it
23:48 <@Corydon76-dig> freakn: I can show you my battlestar galactica... ;-)
23:49 <@Corydon76-dig> If the Earth falls out of orbit and careens into the Sun, then March may never come
23:50 <@freakn> I don't global warmning will screw us up before march.  So it is ok with me,
23:51 <@Corydon76-dig> and Ron Paul ran for president and won
23:52 <@freakn> he does have some good ideas
23:53 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, so does Dennis Kucinich
23:53 <@freakn> I don't like some of them, but it is intresting cause I know exactly what and why ... he has stated it all exactly.  No wishy washy stuff, no ambiguiy
23:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Stalin was the same way... no wishy washy, no changing of his mind...
23:54 <@freakn> Dennis Kucinich's website gives you the option of listed a party and hosting a house party on the website
23:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Everybody knew what Stalin stood for, and you have to respect him for that... or die, because if you disagreed, he would have you killed
23:55 <@freakn> I can see some underage drinking things at a kegger getting traced back to a presidential campaign and mr get alot of press time
23:56 <@Corydon76-dig> I would dearly love to see Obama win in the primary...
23:57 <@Corydon76-dig> and in the general, too
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> but the people don't control who's on the ballot... the self-appointed party officials do...
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> and then it's a question of which candidate can rig more votes in the general election
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23:59 <@someninjamaster> http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=902
23:59 <@freakn> any non-fellon can pay to be listed on the ballot
23:59 <@freakn> just not be listed with a donkey or elephant
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