--- Log opened Mon Dec 03 00:00:32 2007
00:05 < Synx_hm> shit i have to get up in 5 hours
00:07 <@someninjamaster> doh
00:08 < Synx_hm> ya
00:08 < Synx_hm> and i cannot goto sleep
00:08 < Synx_hm> oh and i have to sleep on the couch because i didn't put sheets on my bed becasue im too drunk/lazy to do it
00:08 <@someninjamaster> you fly a b-52 dont you
00:09 < Synx_hm> i do, but i sure as hell dont tomarrow
00:09 <@someninjamaster> haha
00:09 < Synx_hm> im not stupid :)
00:09 <@someninjamaster> i was trying a flight sim yesterday that had it in it
00:09 < Synx_hm> ya its a strange beast
00:10 <@someninjamaster> i kept running off the runway because i couldnt hit the throttle fast enough
00:10 < Synx_hm> hehe
00:10 < Synx_hm> ya we take up a bit of space getting off the ground
00:11 < Synx_hm> you'll need a runway over 6000 feet or so
00:11 <@someninjamaster> that wasnt the issue
00:11 <@someninjamaster> i couldnt get the right engines throttled quick enought
00:11 < Synx_hm> hehe
00:11 <@someninjamaster> the left ones pushed me off the runway
00:11 < Synx_hm> haha
00:11 <@someninjamaster> of course all i have is a mouse
00:12 < Synx_hm> ya you need a thottle quadernt on your stick
00:12 <@someninjamaster> with one mouse click ill have 2/3 of my christmas shopping finished
00:13 < Synx_hm> hah
00:13 < Synx_hm> with one mouse click ill have my mortgage paid and wont be able to get anyone shit for christmas
00:13 < Synx_hm> hehe
00:14 <@dasunt> I'm never going to get laid.
00:14 <@someninjamaster> if it gets you out of your mortgage fuck em
00:15 <@dasunt> Okay, talking to someone about what is too skinny.
00:15 <@dasunt> And a picture is shown for an example.
00:15 <@dasunt> So I notice the cute girl in her underwear first. Then, I start to wonder what books are on the bookshelf in the background.
00:32 <@someninjamaster> wtf
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05:25 < ware> sleepy heads
06:36 <@ladymerlin> whee
06:38 * someninjamaster yawns
06:42 < ware> critch: is the media player you have the one on woot today?
06:43 < ware> hey there sexy lady
06:49 * ware needs moar cpu. trying to crack wep last night on my laptop and i left it running all night and it didnt get anything, so i brought the IVs to work
06:50 < ware> Last night I stayed up late playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died.
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06:58 < ware> anyone want to attempt to crack these IVs? ive got 360,000 of em but i ran aircrack last night for 5 hrs on my laptop and it didnt pick it up
07:34 < ware> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4iHOQNNOE8M anti gravity cat hehe
07:43 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, h0 h0 h0ez!
07:43 <@dc0de> mr0nin .... it's been a long and quiet night.
07:44 <@rhia> long, yes
07:45 <@dc0de> not quiet?
07:47 <@rhia> yesterday, had a 1/2 staple ricochet off a knot and shoot completely thru my thumb
07:48 <@rhia> never notice how often your thumb hits things until something like that happens - sigh
07:48 <@dc0de> oowwch!
07:48 <@Dolemite> rhia : Hate to insult you so deeply, but sounds like something ware would do on purpose.
07:48 < ware> did you take a picture?
07:48 <@rhia> i just called Drag0n over "think i need your help" to pull it out
07:51 <@dc0de> rhia I hope that you washed it out with povidone iodine
07:51 <@dc0de> or betadine
07:51 <@Dolemite> single malt
07:51 <@rhia> eh, know how to treat wounds ;)
07:51 <@dc0de> rhia do you have a recent tetanus shot?
07:52 <@rhia> plus, went next door & talked to our neighbors - she's a nurse & he's doing his residency
07:52 <@rhia> dc0de: going for one this afternoon
07:53 <@rhia> last one was ... 5 years ago or so
07:53 < ware> http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1791311/ rofl
07:54 <@dc0de> sfw?
07:54 <@dc0de> rhia enjoy that shot... :P
07:54 * dc0de realizes that it's been more than 5 years since his last one...
07:54 < ware> yeah french guy gets owned on a diving board
07:55 <@Dolemite> decent price on today's woot
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07:56 <@dc0de> ware, that's a good one...
07:57 < ware> http://tailsteak.com/archive.php?num=402
07:57 <@dc0de> ware, howz the city doing?
07:59 <@dc0de> ware that tailsteak link is hilarious...
07:59 < ware> yeah if you click the comics it takes you to their site
08:00 <@dc0de> cool
08:00 < ware> some of those other ones are pretty funny and ive never heard of em
08:00 <@dc0de> gotta go... time to work... :(
08:00 <@dc0de> for some reason, they want me to earn my pay...
08:00 <@dc0de> it's harsh... I have to actually go to lunch with a client today.
08:01 < ware> haha
08:01 < ware> keep on keepin on
08:02 <@dc0de> yeah, it's a rough life...
08:02 <@dc0de> :)
08:02 <@dc0de> laters...
08:03 < ware> pz
08:12 < ware> so i got a $50 bestbuy giftcard
08:12 < ware> but i dunno what i wanna get
08:12 <@Dolemite> Call up the Geek Squad and order up a nerd chick
08:13 < ware> hmmm
08:36 <@dasunt> Ha ha.
08:40 <@Dagmar> there's an idea
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08:53 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
08:53 * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_
08:54 <@SkyDog_> HEY!
08:54 <@ladymerlin> :p
08:54 <@Dolemite> w00f
08:54 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
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08:55 < ware> m0rnin
08:55 < remoford> moin moin
08:56 <@ladymerlin> heya remo
08:56 < remoford> howdy steph
08:56 < remoford> missed you at the b&p the other day
08:57 <@ladymerlin> how goes it
08:57 <@ladymerlin> yeah
08:57 < remoford> pretty good
08:57 < remoford> im at "work" waiting for my marching orders
08:57 <@ladymerlin> heh
09:00 * remoford summons forth his Klingon spirit
09:00 < remoford> today is a good day to have the sniffles
09:01 <@SkyDog_> a *good* day?
09:02 < remoford> exactly
09:02 <@Dagmar> Every day is a good day for the sniffles if the alternative is having an ebola breakout.
09:02 < remoford> so im sitting here next to a large pile of lead acid backup batteries
09:02 < remoford> and they are bulging in a rather scary fashion
09:03 < remoford> im hoping for the best
09:03 <@Dagmar> ...and you're thinking "maybe they'll pity me and say 'we don't want to blow him up, he feels bad enough already"
09:03 < remoford> but if im in the newspaper as dead via acid to the face, you know what happened
09:04 <@Dagmar> The acid will be the least of your problems.
09:04 < remoford> mmm
09:07 < ware> dont forget to visit #se2600 city!
09:09 <@SkyDog_> Those people there are all dicks.
09:10 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:14 <@nachoguy> gah!
09:15 <@nachoguy> it's too early for this level of hate
09:21 <@nachoguy> quasi nsfw: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/03/atomic_amazon_offer/
09:29 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: did you already get an apt there or something?
09:30 <@seeblind> morning everybody
09:30 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: I got a hotel room and banged your mom. The people next door were complaining about the noise.
09:31 <@SkyDog_> Morning seeblind.
09:31 <@ladymerlin> heya seeblind
09:31 <@Evilpig> i'm hurt. you didn't even bring me anything after banging my mom?
09:32 <@seeblind> heya LadyM and her mother copulating friend, hehe
09:33 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: She wasn't that good.
09:34 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: Las Palmas was good on Friday night. t'was nice to meet your woman. Now we know that you aren't gay. :)
09:34 <@ladymerlin> hehehe
09:36 <@seeblind> Yes, she enjoyed meeting you guys too. I thought that you saw me leave your mothers house you knew.
09:36 <@SkyDog_> Well, maybe your were doing her hair. :)
09:37 <@seeblind> no just her breasts, I didn't want to see her face.
09:37 <@SkyDog_> Haha! Good one.
09:38 <@SkyDog_> You did roll them back up when you were done, right?
09:38 <@seeblind> Seriously, we had a good time. I plan on being at the meeting, but I am not sure about teh lady.
09:39 <@SkyDog_> That's cool. She sounds like she's got alot of work to get done soon.
09:40 <@seeblind> Grad school is keeping her uber busy.
09:41 <@baudburn> mornin
09:41 <@Evilpig> Have I said fuck IE lately? just because of how difficult it makes designing websites?
09:41 <@SkyDog_> Morning Baud!
09:41 <@baudburn> hi SkyDog_ !
09:41 <@SkyDog_> BTW, your user account is still on the cluster at vandy.
09:43 <@baudburn> who me?
09:43 <@baudburn> haha awesome
09:43 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, I had a meeting with the ACCRE people the other day, and asked if they remembered you.
09:43 <@SkyDog_> One guy said that he remembered your username being in the system.
09:43 <@baudburn> actually, leave it alone, i'll be needing it when i come back for my phd
09:44 <@baudburn> matt something or other
09:44 <@SkyDog_> Heh. I am not going to remove a damn thing. :)
09:44 <@Dolemite> You're coming back here for your Ph.D.?
09:44 <@baudburn> my group funded a large secion of vampire, so we got to use a lot of nodes
09:45 <@baudburn> Dolemite: it's a strong possibility
09:45 <@baudburn> i want my phd
09:45 <@baudburn> when i was back in town for PN i visited my old profs.. just to say hi and see what they were up to
09:45 <@Dolemite> cool deal
09:46 <@Dolemite> ok, time to head upstairs for the operations meeting
09:46 <@baudburn> unprompted, the head of the group asked me if i was going to consider coming back
09:46 <@baudburn> and that he'd get me in and fund me if i said the workd
09:46 <@baudburn> err wrod
09:46 <@baudburn> word!
09:47 <@baudburn> so i've got the open door back to academia.. which is hard to ignore..
09:48 <@nachoguy> true, but being financially solvent is also a bonus
09:49 <@nachoguy> that's what has been keeping me from getting a masters, I like paying my bills
09:50 <@baudburn> nachoguy: if you go for engineering, you should get a decent steipend
09:51 <@baudburn> at least at vandy i had enough to pay bills, eat decently well, pay rent, and fly to visit my woman every 6 weeks or so
09:51 <@nachoguy> baudburn, nothing like what I make working full time
09:51 <@baudburn> sure, at that points its just priorites
09:51 <@nachoguy> if it is, I'm going back to acadamia and never leaving
09:52 <@nachoguy> My wife wants me to go get a masters before she gets her second, or (I'm pushing for) her phd
09:52 <@baudburn> word
09:52 <@baudburn> i loved it
09:52 <@baudburn> my group was excellent
09:54 <@baudburn> i complain that my wife got me to leave my program by being attractive.. but her real motivation was so she could be the only Dr. in the family
09:55 * baudburn cranks some UNKLE
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10:23 < ware> anyway to get SAINT for free?
10:26 <@polerin> feh
10:26 <@polerin> there are times I wish I had mod points :P
10:26 <@polerin> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=377205&cid=21560691 <-- take a peek and see if you think it's worth getting to the +1 level at least ;p
10:26 <@polerin> The FUD about "ZOMG SHARED CONNECTION?!" pisses me off
10:28 <@Dagmar> They don't let me meta-moderate anymore
10:28 <@SkyDog_> http://yentit.com/Edge.htm#html <---ware gets talked into another crazy stunt with a woman. SFW
10:29 <@Dagmar> Sstoopid
10:29 <@Dagmar> You probably don't want to bridge them
10:29 <@Dagmar> wrong chan
10:29 <@polerin> heh
10:32 <@nachoguy> skydog, that's not actually ware, is it?
10:32 <@nachoguy> I can't really tell
10:32 <@polerin> heh
10:33 <@critch> It is pretty easy to tell that is not ware
10:33 <@SkyDog_> nachoguy: Nope, but it might as well be.
10:34 <@critch> Interesting building design, They are laying on the supports for what will be the balcony.
10:35 <@SkyDog_> or were the balcony.
10:40 < ware> actually i saw that and stored that idea away next time the situation presents itself
10:42 <@Corydon76-lap> The situation will next present itself with tim
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10:46 < ware> and Corydon76-lap gets the award for the 3 most stupid thing said in IRC history
10:47 < ware> 3rd*
10:47 <@SkyDog_> Morning MudFlap
10:48 < MudFlap> Morning SkyDog!
10:49 <@Dagmar> Wow
10:49 <@Dagmar> Someone's trying to set up bridging over a wireless interface
10:49 <@Dagmar> ...*to* a remote access point.
10:49 <@Dagmar> ...and they're doing it to bridge a *kvm*
10:49 <@Dagmar> ...to their *virtual machine*
10:49 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: We still on for tomorrow?
10:49 <@Dagmar> ...and somehow *I* am a bastard for suggesting they take a handful of lithium.
10:50 <@brimstone> i *wanna* talk with stars too
10:50 < MudFlap> SkyDog: Probably need to reschedule at this point.
10:50 <@Dagmar> Unless one were to attempt to do this while in freefall, and on fire, I don't see how it could really get much less prone to not working.
10:50 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: That bad huh?
10:51 <@Dagmar> With most of the AP's I've poked at, if you show 'em a second MAC one of two things happen...
10:51 <@Dagmar> ...either 1) you are summarily no longer associated and effectively offline, or
10:51 <@Dagmar> ...2) your original MAC is no longer associated.
10:51 <@Dagmar> So, bridging that... Hehe
10:52 < ware> ive had good success with ddwrt and bridging
10:53 <@Dagmar> From the AP side you can do bridging fine
10:54 < MudFlap> SkyDog: Minolta is displaying new printer lineup @ Vanderbilt Holiday Inn, w/lunch.
10:54 <@SkyDog_> Nice.
11:17 <@nachoguy> Fear of DIAF: Pyronecrophobia or necropyrophobia?
11:19 <@Corydon76-lap> I think the second one is actually fear of hell.
11:22 <@tzanger> ... necropyrophobia?
11:22 <@nachoguy> the more I look at it, I came to a conclusion
11:22 <@nachoguy> isn't necrophobia be fear of the dead, not fear of dying?
11:22 < ware> 'im not sure if vnc has been setup on your pc before'
11:22 <@nachoguy> so pyronecrophobia would be the fear of dead flaming bodies
11:22 < ware> "yes it hasnt"
11:22 < ware> '...'
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11:25 <@Jagobah> haha
11:26 <@Corydon76-lap> nachoguy: at least you're not mortified of death, like Shadow
11:27 <@someninjamaster> hello all
11:27 <@SkyDog_> heya snm
11:32 <@nachoguy> hehehe
11:32 <@nachoguy> I just pulled some call stats
11:32 <@nachoguy> for a couple of our numbers, we spoke for 3/4s of a year last month
11:33 <@someninjamaster> wow
11:33 <@someninjamaster> whats up skydog
11:34 <@SkyDog_> Namuch. At the office, goofing around.
11:41 < ware> hax some wep for me
11:41 < ware> http://u.nf/~w/weak.ivs
11:42 <@brimstone> you didn't crack that yet?
11:43 < ware> i did the first one, this is the 2nd one
11:43 <@someninjamaster> what are you trying to crack it with a an apple 2e
11:43 < ware> but apparently its best not to use --ivs with airodump-ng when using the PTW method of craching
11:44 < ware> because it uses the first bits of data in normal packets to help or something
11:44 <@brimstone> did you look at the script i linked you?
11:44 < ware> someninjamaster: no im using calc and a .bat i made
11:44 < ware> yes but that wont work with my card
11:45 < ware> ive got an orinoco and a madwifi
11:45 <@brimstone> well, look at the airodump-ng lines in there then
11:45 < ware> relink me plzthnxnowk
11:45 <@brimstone> the madwifi gives a ath0 device, that's what i use
11:45 < ware> [05:10:24] Tested 26782202 keys (got 362131 IVs)
11:46 < ware> 26 million keys tried
11:55 <@Corydon76-lap> Anybody remember what the standard password is for Comcast's business routers?
11:56 <@SkyDog_> highspeed/
11:56 <@SkyDog_> or hispeed.
11:56 <@SkyDog_> I can't remember which.
11:56 <@Dagmar> "m0n0p0li3zRk3Wl"
11:57 <@Corydon76-lap> SkyDog_: yeah, that sounds right
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12:00 <@Corydon76-lap> cusadmin/highspeed, looks like
12:02 <@someninjamaster> whats the ip for the routers
12:04 < ware> 192.168.1.1
12:04 <@Corydon76-lap> 192.168.100.1, usually
12:07 * polerin blinks
12:07 <@polerin> what?
12:07 <@polerin> and no
12:07 <@polerin> buisness routers are 10.0.0.1
12:07 <@polerin> generally
12:07 <@polerin> don't know what the default passwd is
12:16 <@Dagmar> http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/11/29/da-chix-be-all-up-onz-mai-nutz/
12:16 <@Dagmar> That one's for ware
12:17 <@someninjamaster> thanks polerin
12:17 <@someninjamaster> i have been needing that for awhile
12:32 < ware> nice
12:40 <@Dolemite> ware : You still managing to stop sucking on the fags?
12:41 <@Dolemite> fags, of course, being the common term for cigarettes.
12:41 <@Corydon76-lap> of course
12:41 <+coil> maybe in england
12:42 <@Dolemite> More than just England
12:42 <+coil> yeah everyone calls it that here
12:42 <@Corydon76-lap> Anywhere they still speak with a British accent
12:42 <+coil> i mean anyone
12:42 <@Dolemite> Pretty much anywhere that Brittain had as a colony other than the US.
12:42 <@Corydon76-lap> Canada doesn't, either
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12:43 <@Dolemite> Some do
12:43 <@someninjamaster> haha nice quit
12:43 <@Corydon76-lap> Well, some Americans do, too, but most don't
12:44 <@Dolemite> ANYWAY
12:45 <+coil> Corydon76-lap: 42
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13:19 <@Dagmar> BLame W3C for allowing elements to specify focus
13:19 <@Dagmar> ...er to sdodson's complaint about URL bar behaviour
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13:35 <@nachoguy> uhh, wtf is the http://se2600.myminicity.com/ind link in the topic for?
13:35 <@SkyDog_> ware's new toy>?
13:35 <@nachoguy> it didn't really load all that well, and by that I mean it looked like it was just constantly refreshing
13:36 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : You just missed me for lunch, I guess
13:36 <@Dolemite> I had meetings until about 11:30, then went straight next door without checking IRC
13:36 <@SkyDog_> Yeah yeah...
13:37 <@SkyDog_> I had to goto the bank too, so I would have put you behind.
13:37 <@SkyDog_> The fish wasn't bad. I forgot the three bottles of creamer that I bought for the office, so I am lacing my coffee wiht a cinnabon vanilla latte.
13:37 <@SkyDog_> Ick.
13:38 <@Evilpig> someone come by here and pickup my bonus check and take to the bank
13:39 <@ladymerlin> make my place hurry up and give me my bouns check
13:39 <@nachoguy> I want a bonus
13:40 <@ladymerlin> we get ours on the 14th
13:40 <@Dolemite> We get our free turkey on the 20th
13:40 <@nachoguy> I'm going to need to get paid in cash and alcohol to make me not beat the living shit out of this manager
13:41 <@Evilpig> wtf is this city thing anyway?
13:42 <@Dagmar> It's where we keep the slums.
13:42 <@dc0de> whee.
13:42 * ware doesnt get a bonus
13:42 < ware> :(
13:42 < ware> nachoguy: its #se2600-ville
13:43 <@dc0de> nachoguy I want a winning lottery ticket.
13:43 <@Evilpig> is there a link we can click on to build a methlab?
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13:45 <@nachoguy> dc0de, that's my boss's retirement plan. "when I win, I retire"
13:46 <@nachoguy> I want to win as well, just need a couple mil and I'm sure I could live a decent life
13:46 <@nachoguy> noting crazy or extravagent
13:47 <@nachoguy> keep a few mil in a bank somewhere and only use the interest as a salary
13:48 <@nachoguy> http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/12/at-one-college.html
13:56 <@SkyDog_> Anyone got any good info on SATA raid arrays?
13:56 <@Evilpig> what about them?
13:57 <@Evilpig> I've had fairly good luck with 3ware
13:57 <@SkyDog_> Proware any good?
13:57 <@SkyDog_> I want 12-16 drive bays.
13:57 <@Evilpig> nas device or somethign else?
13:57 <@brimstone> we have 2 12-port 3ware cards that have been holding up for 3 years now SkyDog_
13:57 <@SkyDog_> NAS.
13:57 <@brimstone> in a gentoo box
13:59 <@Dagmar> Hint: Look at what Linux supports, and what the kernel people have to say about them
14:01 <@critch> SkyDog_: do you want cheap or hardware raid?
14:01 <@SkyDog_> Hardware raid.
14:01 <@SkyDog_> I'd prefer sata disks.
14:01 <@critch> ahh, okay. That rules out the nice SuperMicro cards
14:01 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: promise makes a decent nas box that is 12 - 16 ports sata. but I can't really give a first hand experience. my promise controller is many years old
14:02 <@SkyDog_> Hmmm.
14:02 <@Evilpig> I am seeing Raid 6 appearing alot more now
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14:04 <@dc0de> I still prefert raid 1+0
14:04 <@dc0de> s/prefert/prefer
14:04 <@critch> SkyDog_: not to sway you too much, but hardware raid controllers haven't really dropped in price very much. The difference in a hardware raid card able to handle your number of drives and the equivalent standard cards might be enough to justify another dual core CPU
14:05 <@SkyDog_> I am looking at external raid arrays.
14:05 <@Evilpig> http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?product_id=188
14:05 <@Dagmar> SkyDog_: Talk to ACCRE
14:05 <@dc0de> I also prefer hardware raid... it's much easier to recover when the OS or other hardware dies...
14:05 <@dc0de> something with some good battery backed cache
14:05 <@Dagmar> ...or rather the MIS people
14:07 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_: Yeah, hook your userbase up with some command line tools for data storage!
14:08 < MudFlap> SkyDog: Thompson Machinery is tossing server racks/cabinets, etc. Interested?
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14:08 <@Evilpig> MudFlap: he is. he'll be storing them for my arrival in nashville
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14:09 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: Yeah.
14:09 < MudFlap> I'll go get a truckload.
14:09 <@critch> MudFlap: when and where do we need to show up for retrieval?
14:09 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Um, yeah. I am going to make everyone use SCP from the command line, but still use the DNS names given by vandy's network.
14:09 <@critch> I can show up with a trailer and help haul it, plus I have a bit of storage space if need be
14:09 <@SkyDog_> That should cut down on usage.
14:10 < MudFlap> Critch: I'll find out.
14:10 <@Evilpig> can y'all strap one to the roof of NotLarry's hamster mobile for him to bring back to murray?
14:10 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : I'm pretty sure it would crush the roof on his clown car
14:10 <@Dagmar> Times like this I don't like having a small car
14:11 <@critch> Dagmar: it isn't the having a small car that sucks, it is not having towing abilities. I can hook the trailer up and tow a lot with my little car.
14:11 <@Dagmar> If we were to strap one to the roof of both our cars like a bridge, and chain the bumpers together, it might be doable
14:11 <@Dagmar> ...but I think the police would have something to say about that.
14:11 <@Evilpig> wouldn't it be funny to try and explain it though?
14:12 <@Dagmar> Telling them you're building your own Autobot won't get you out of it, either. :)
14:12 <@Evilpig> I mean they couldn't give you a ticket cause they would have to stop laughing long enought to write it up
14:12 <@Dagmar> That's not as fun as it sounds.
14:12 <@Dagmar> A cop saw me bringing this giant TV home in my teeny weeny car
14:12 <@Dagmar> He was laughing his ass off at me
14:14 <@Dagmar> He definitely could have ticketed me, because if I had a wreck there, it would be like carpooling with an angry bull elephant
14:14 < ware> haha
14:15 <@Dagmar> Being in a vehicle that rolls *once* makes you think about things like "what if this shower of random crap were made of substantially larger things?"
14:15 <@critch> hehe, and yet more reasons to want towing ability and a trailer at ones disposal
14:16 <@Dagmar> I like the idea of my car being whipped around like a child's toy by something attached to the rear
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14:18 <@critch> Evilpig: for the price tag I just saw on those promise boxes, I'd really suggest the CoRaid machines.
14:19 <@Evilpig> promise isn't cheap that is for sure. but they have been around a while. just an option.
14:19 <@critch> right, not knocking them for anything but price
14:20 <@SkyDog_> Cheap isn't necessarily the issue here. Expandabilty and reliability are the two I am most concerned about.
14:22 <@Dolemite> EMC
14:22 < ware> AOL
14:24 <@SkyDog_> UPS
14:24 <@Evilpig> I have had two major system crashing with my promise controller in the last 5 years or so since I had it. but the to best of my knowledge I caused them both
14:24 <@Evilpig> either by flashing firmware or something like that
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14:29 < ware> MAN SBS IS SHIT
14:29 <@SkyDog_> NO Duh.
14:29 < ware> LARGEST CRAP DUMP OF BITS SINCE SOMENINJAMASTERS CONTRIBUTION TO THE INTERNET
14:30 < ware> err i mean MY*
14:30 * ware kicks Remote Web Workplace in the nuts
14:30 <@critch> I can't find the reference now, and am starting to doubt I read it, but I thought coraid supported RAID across chassis by itself without the need of doing the software raid up in the consuming os.
14:38 <@nachoguy> critch, the LSI cards do
14:38 <@nachoguy> LSi are my cards of choice, so long as you get the right ones
14:40 <@critch> LSI cards will do raid across chassis? As in one case with 16 drive bays and another case with 16 drive bays?
14:41 <@nachoguy> yup
14:41 <@nachoguy> we've got a couple
14:42 <@critch> I'm assuming in your case that the cases are basically boxes of dives with power supplies and little else
14:42 <@nachoguy> http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071203/NRSTAFF/71203017
14:43 <@nachoguy> well, one case has a mobo, the raid card, and a backplane with 12 disks, and then another case with a backplane and disks
14:44 <@critch> okay, how many ports is that LSI limited to?
14:58 <@nachoguy> I don't recall, i didn't build the box up, i had one of the admins here do it
14:59 <@nachoguy> if you want, I can try to dig up the specs for the card
14:59 <@critch> Just thinking if what I remembered was true, the CoRaid was more flexible, but then again, I can't find docs backing it up.
15:00 <@nachoguy> I'm sure coraid is more flexible, it scales to some astronomical number of drives
15:01 <@critch> yep, right now, 24 per 4u and has 10gig ports
15:01 <@nachoguy> but if you only need some middle sized storage (14-20 some odd TB), the LSI might bemore cost effective
15:03 <@critch> If expandability wasn't king, I would look at the same supermicro hardware CoRaid uses and build it myself. Last time I speced, I could build their 15 drive array for about $1500, and then add drives.
15:05 < ware> pz out homegrowns
15:14 <@nachoguy> what's that hardware go for when it's coraid branded?
15:15 <@critch> $3995, but it comes with their pretweaked OS and support
15:16 <@critch> anyone watch Tinman on SciFi last night?
15:17 <@Dolemite> not yet, but I recorded it to watch
15:18 <@critch> I like some of the twists already
15:18 <@SkyDog_> critch: Some of it.
15:19 <@critch> how did you like the character introductions and reasons for needing what they seak?
15:19 <@critch> or seek even
15:39 <@buu> NACHOGUY.
15:39 <@buu> HELL THAR.
15:42 <@SkyDog_> critch: I missed alot of the intros.
15:42 <@SkyDog_> We were shopping and got back about 20 mins into it.
15:43 <@critch> hmm, at 20 mins in, you should have just been getting into intros, it took them 15+mins to get out of whatever small town
15:48 < MudFlap> I got 2 each 7' APC racks w/all sides, doors, on wheels. Also got 2 switches and 1 hub. Not bad.
15:49 <@critch> is that total of what they where getting rid of, or just what your personal haul was?
15:50 < MudFlap> Total of what my haul was. They gave some more to others before they found out about the HC.
15:50 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: What does that leave HC?
15:51 < MudFlap> I'll give all to HC unless you want to give critch a rack.
15:51 <@SkyDog_> critch: You need a rack man?
15:51 <@critch> Not a big need, would be nicer than what I currently have
15:51 <@critch> In fact, I'll just store for HC if need be
15:51 <@SkyDog_> That's cool. Have a rack man. :)
15:52 <@SkyDog_> Iknow which one you had before. One on wheels and covers would be nice.
15:52 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: Thanks for the haul man.
15:52 <@SkyDog_> What switches/hubs?
15:52 < MudFlap> I think I can get all future goodies directed to HC also.
15:52 <@SkyDog_> :)
15:52 <@critch> Is there a need to come get soon?
15:52 < MudFlap> I 'll have to get them out of the back of the truck. Didn't see brand.
15:53 <@SkyDog_> ah.
15:53 < MudFlap> I have a large basement here, so whenever you want. No rush.
15:53 <@SkyDog_> Cool. Should be soon though.
15:53 <@critch> SkyDog_: when you need to go get them, I have a trailer we can stand them up and move several at a time.
15:54 <@SkyDog_> Nice. We will need a trailer, that's for sure.
15:54 <@SkyDog_> I remember moving a Comm rack on top of my truck when it was assembled. Even that was not fun.
15:54 <@critch> well, mine is set up to carry 2 motorcycles side by side. plenty of tubing to tie off on.
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15:59 < MudFlap> 2 ea Vertical Horizon VH-2402S switches, 1 ea B
15:59 < MudFlap> 1 ea Bay Networks BayStack 102 hub
16:00 <@SkyDog_> That's cool. those will suffice for a server rack switch. :)
16:00 <@SkyDog_> We can prop the door open with the bay networks.
16:01 < MudFlap> It's an oldie.
16:01 <@SkyDog_> Yeha, I think I have one of those at the house.
16:03 < MudFlap> SkyDog: You interested in that Minolta lunch?
16:03 <@SkyDog_> Is that tomorrow?
16:03 < MudFlap> Yes, I could probably get you a seat if you are interested.
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16:04 <@SkyDog_> Nah. thanks though. I will be cranking on people to get me some numbers.
16:04 <@SkyDog_> I have to get this storage project up and running asap, and I can't get feedback from the people around me.
16:04 <@Evilpig> what are you talking abouttubby? we have all given you feedback already
16:05 <@Mirage> he's just whining like a little bitch
16:05 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: I need to know from the people around me how *much* storage they need.
16:06 <@SkyDog_> Like trying to get kenon to come have a beer...
16:06 <@SkyDog_> I have got some good info from you guys.
16:06 <@SkyDog_> I like the promise stuff, since it uses commodity drives.
16:06 <@Mirage> we need to go have beers again sometime. it's been awhile
16:06 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, it has.
16:07 <@critch> SkyDog_: should definatly look into the coraid as well with comodity drives. Also look at the NAS distro they offer.
16:07 <@Mirage> well, what kind of formfactor are they talking..rackmount? SAS/SATA/SCSI?
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16:08 <@SkyDog_> What i have been looking at is rackmount. 8-15 1.5 or 3 gig sata drives. I want fibre channel connectivity.
16:09 <@SkyDog_> three power supplies.
16:09 <@critch> why FC?
16:09 <@Mirage> http://www.emc.com/products/networking/servers/index.jsp
16:09 <@SkyDog_> In comparison to what?
16:10 <@GodFix> iscsi?
16:10 <@SkyDog_> Mirage: I looked at the celerra family. I think you have to use their drives with it.
16:10 <@critch> Well, what connectivity do you users have?
16:10 <@SkyDog_> critch: I am going to connect the raid array to a dell server with FC, running Fbsd and samba.
16:11 <@Mirage> SkyDog_: For the 'operating system' pair only, I think.
16:11 <@SkyDog_> It's not a really high-end need.
16:11 <@SkyDog_> Mirage: Ah. I downloaded some of the pdf's but haven't gotten to them yet.
16:11 <@SkyDog_> critch: I think we're still at 100mb ethernet at the moment.
16:11 <@SkyDog_> and FC has been around for quite soem time.
16:12 <@critch> But it is still stupid expensive
16:12 <@critch> The older CoRaid stuff has gigE, and the newer stuff has 10gig ports
16:13 <@SkyDog_> critch: I didn't say I was stuck on FC, but it is what I am comfortable with ATM.
16:13 <+coil> Shadow_Phone: stfh
16:13 <@critch> thats cool, and why I was asking. Looking for a bit of education in case I had missed something before
16:14 <@critch> SkyDog_: the coraid stuff with the coraid NAS has LVM that supports growing the array over multiple chassis'. So you go with the inexpensive 15 drive option, and build your own NAS front end. Then add more backends when you want.
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16:15 <@SkyDog_> That is what I was looking at with FC. The promise 8 or 15 drive array, with the ability to expand out to more arrays if necessary. The FBSD server can use a few of the LSI FC cards and should percolate right along.
16:16 <@SkyDog_> I dunno that I want to span the array over multiple hardware chassis.
16:16 <@Shadow_Phone> coil: bitch, rejoin
16:16 <@SkyDog_> I would prefer to isolate the array boxes by themselves.
16:17 <@SkyDog_> When you're talking about 10 tb of data, I get a little worried about failure.
16:17 <@critch> SkyDog_: Well it is nice if you need to grow. But the benefit is you can expose up every drive by themselves or any combo in a raid array.
16:17 <@critch> Or even more fun, join them all up for one huge honking drive array, then create logical drives within the array to expose to your users via iscsi or similar
16:18 <+coil> j ware
16:18 <+coil> Shadow_Phone: bitch
16:18 <@SkyDog_> critch: True.
16:18 <@SkyDog_> coil: Keep in it #ware man.
16:19 <+coil> kyfo SkyDog_
16:19 <@critch> one of the features I really liked is if you split a coraid box into multiple arrays, you can mark a single drive as a spare and it will work with whatever array needs it
16:19 <@critch> means fewer unutilised drives
16:20 <@SkyDog_> Nice.
16:29 <@Mirage> SkyDog_: what are you doing wed at ~4:30?
16:30 <@SkyDog_> Dunno. I have a meeting with Mat of the ACCRE group wed. afternoon.
16:30 <@SkyDog_> Why do you ask?
16:30 <@Mirage> Setting up for beers. got Kenon (suposedly) and Peter lined up
16:31 <@SkyDog_> Peter? Peter Griffin? saweet!
16:31 <@Mirage> No, that'd be Guy..havn'ty mentioned it to him yet
16:31 <@Mirage> If you haven't met him..he does look rather like Peter Griffin
16:32 <@SkyDog_> Heh.
16:32 <@SkyDog_> Well, at 5pm I am pseudo available for beers.
16:33 <@Mirage> We should drag Binkley down for beers too. I bet he'd be a riot drunk.
16:34 <@SkyDog_> Heh.
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16:53 <@Mirage> Funny as hell..a crash on I65 in Louisville on Sun. Tractor trailer jacknifed/crashed spilling 1400lbs of "Little Debbie" snacks onto the roadway blocking several lanes.
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17:03 <@nachoguy> what's the syntax for apt to tell you what files come in a package that you haven't yet installed?
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17:10 <@critch> nachoguy: apt itself can't, dpkg could
17:10 <@critch> nachoguy: or better yet look it up on debians website
17:10 <@critch> well assuming it is a debian .deb
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17:24 <@nachoguy> meh, it's for someone I hate, so I did an apt-cache show packagename
17:24 <@nachoguy> it generates some stuff that I don't care about, but is verbose
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17:28 <@someninjamaster> this is stupid
17:28 <@someninjamaster> schools should be bared from assigning any assignments that affect anyone else in the house hold
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17:40 <@rhia> someninjamaster: ?
17:41 <@someninjamaster> my sister has some sorta computer baby that crys
17:41 <@someninjamaster> then you have to push a button on the back and record the time
17:42 <@rhia> too bad real baby's don'
17:42 <@rhia> t come with off buttons and batteries
17:43 <@someninjamaster> yeah
17:43 <@someninjamaster> which is the exact reason i dont plan on having any soon
17:44 <@someninjamaster> i already told her teacher if it wakes me up in the middle of the night i will report what time it cried by phone to her
17:49 <@Mirage> have you taken it apart to see if you can hack it or anything yet?
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17:51 <@someninjamaster> i have thought about it
17:51 <@someninjamaster> but my mom said if my sister failed the class because i tried to hack the baby she would kick me out
17:52 <@Mirage> she's no fun
17:52 <@someninjamaster> i know
17:53 <@someninjamaster> im trying to get the download software from my old supervisor when i was working at the school
17:53 <@Mirage> be a shame to change the timing to only 'cry' during that class..=)
17:53 <@Corydon76-lap> ...continously...
17:53 <@someninjamaster> that would rock so hard
17:54 <@Corydon76-lap> regardless of how many times you push the button
17:55 <@rhia> "sorry, teacher, guess the baby has colic or something"~shrug~
17:55 <+coil> make it meow instead of cry
17:58 <@Mirage> http://nashville.craigslist.org/tag/497518624.html
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18:18 <+coil> thehippo
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18:22 <+coil> lrn2irc ware
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18:41 <@someninjamaster> hahat
18:42 <@someninjamaster> it turns out that the computer that downloads the info off the babys is pooched
18:42 <@someninjamaster> so they had to switch back to the older ones that dont have any onboard software
18:43 <@someninjamaster> thats why you have to write down when it crys
18:52 <@sdodson> http://www.spiritair.com/welcome.aspx?pg=salesinformation&number=448 MILF sale
18:52 <@sdodson> SFW
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19:01 <+coil> lolzzzzzzzzzzz
19:01 <+coil> lUlZI
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19:08 <+coil> caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttt
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19:08 <+coil> unfair
19:09 <@sdodson> srsly
19:09 <@sdodson> that's not how we roll
19:09 <+coil> pick on someone your own size, like sdodson
19:09 <+coil> kick his ass
19:09 <+coil> im sure you could
19:10 <@sdodson> coil: last time I stick up for you
19:10 <+coil> oh
19:10 <+coil> sdodson: you have more access then he does
19:10 <+coil> so you could kick his ass
19:11 <@Catonic> <- me not giving a fuck.
19:12 <+coil> awww i hurt Catonic's feelings
19:12 <@Catonic> My Name.... is Catonic.
19:13 * coil gets nekid for Catonic
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19:15 <@dc0de> evenin all
19:15 <@dc0de> traffic sucks
19:15 <+coil> werd up dc0de
19:15 <+coil> yes traffic always fucking sucks around this time
19:15 <@sdodson> dc0de: mass transit
19:15 <@sdodson> do your part
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19:16 <@dc0de> sdodson mass transit will make my 2 hour commute into a 3hour commute... that's not worth it.
19:16 <+coil> it will save you money!!
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19:17 <@sdodson> come on, if everyone thinks like that it's never going to work
19:17 <+coil> dc0de: drive the meta
19:17 <@dc0de> coil how is wasting more time saving money?
19:17 <@dc0de> coil huh?
19:17 <+coil> or the whatever the atl fucks call the rail train thingy
19:17 <+coil> bart?
19:17 <@dc0de> sdodson if mass transit was where I lived, and if ATL had mass transit that was the 4th WORST in the country, it might help.
19:18 <@dc0de> marta doesn't go anywhere near where I live.
19:18 <@dc0de> like 30 miles away.
19:18 <@sdodson> how many cities have mass transit systems that can handle the sprawl of ATL?
19:18 <+coil> get a lil bike and drive on the side of the road
19:18 <@Catonic> Fo' sheezy.
19:18 <@dc0de> coil you do it first for me... prove it works.
19:18 <@Catonic> we just need to all convert to scooters
19:19 <@dc0de> sdodson new york, la, san fran
19:19 <@dc0de> berlin
19:19 <@dc0de> the entire country of germany
19:19 <@sdodson> move to RDU
19:19 <@sdodson> we haz transit
19:19 <@dc0de> rdu?
19:19 <@sdodson> RDU IN DA HIZZY
19:19 <@sdodson> Raleigh Durham
19:19 <@dc0de> whatever...
19:19 <@Catonic> motorcyles would allievate most of the current traffic issues... people, outside of thier protective bubbles would be unable to perform mass amounts of idiocy.
19:20 <@dc0de> Catonic wishful thinking.
19:20 <@sdodson> Is that why you drive a car?
19:20 <@dc0de> sdodson you stole my next point
19:20 <@sasquatc4> you could just move closer to work
19:20 <@Catonic> I'm thinking S2000, Miata, Prius, or motorcycle.
19:21 <@sdodson> vroom!
19:21 <@sdodson> I wants s2k but i'm too poor.
19:21 <@Catonic> I need something fast like I need a hole in the head.
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19:22 <@Catonic> I got a letter from the DA politely asking me to slow my happy ass down. So, naturally, I'm looking for new, slower wheels.
19:23 <@sdodson> s2k is fun though,
19:23 <@sdodson> don't have to be that fast
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19:25 <@dc0de> ~minilink http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/06/19/neander-turbo-diesel-motorcycle/
19:25 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/thekneeslider.com/w0xpe
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19:31 <@dasunt> Ah, women.
19:31 <@dasunt> They keep the liquor stores in business.
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19:31 < Synx_hm> wtf dsn servers in the fritz
19:32 < Synx_hm> dns that is
19:33 <+coil> Synx_hm: im going to the riverwalk tonight
19:33 < Synx_hm> cool
19:33 < Synx_hm> its a bit expensive but nice there
19:33 < Synx_hm> some good steaks :)
19:33 <+coil> mmm steak
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19:33 < Synx_hm> i need a temp dns solution as my isp's are sucking it up bad
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19:33 < Synx_hm> i cant get to anything now
19:34 <+coil> Synx_hm: 4.2.2.2
19:34 < Synx_hm> thanks, is there a #2?
19:34 < Synx_hm> 4.2.2.3 ?
19:34 <@sdodson> sure
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19:34 <+coil> you want timwarners bullshit dns?
19:34 <@sdodson> coil has clearly worked tech support
19:34 <+coil> sdodson: no i haven't
19:35 <+coil> Synx_hm: im going to see the pretty christmas lights
19:35 <+coil> and other shit downtown
19:35 < Synx_hm> cool
19:35 < Synx_hm> i didn't see that last year
19:35 < Synx_hm> brb
19:35 <+coil> fien
19:35 <@dc0de> they finally took 4.2.2.1 down.
19:36 <@dc0de> you could always use ns1.mit.edu
19:36 <+coil> how can you resolve that without a working dns server?
19:36 < ware> http://tv.latinsud.com/wepconv.html
19:36 <@dc0de> coil, open nslookup, put in 4.2.2.2 and then lookup ns1.mit.edu
19:36 <@dc0de> easy
19:37 <+coil> oh, well im glad my dns shit hasn't fucked up yet
19:37 <@dc0de> mine did over the past 3 days...
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19:42 <@rhia> bloody cat figured out how to turn off the UPS
19:42 <@sdodson> see, don't keep cats
19:43 <@Catonic> http://www.dieselsweeties.com/archive.php?s=1896 <- I've actually met a couple that make me cringe..
19:44 <@Catonic> Wouldn't have been that bad if the old codger hadn't bragged about having a few viagra out in the glovebox of the car.
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19:44 < Synx__> ugh
19:45 < Synx__> any way to tell what dns server im currently on?
19:45 < Synx__> ive got 3 setup
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19:45 * Catonic headdesks
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19:46 <@Catonic> No. I am only teaching one person how to use UNIX this week. You're not him.
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19:46 < ware> Synx__: ipconfig /all
19:46 < Synx__> duh
19:46 <@dasunt> Catonic: Can I learn the UNIX?
19:46 < Synx__> i mean which one im actually quererying
19:46 < ware> well, it uses the first one first
19:46 <@someninjamaster> whats unix
19:47 <@someninjamaster> is that like dos
19:47 <@dasunt> Catonic: I from windows land. I only need to learn how to reboot and reinstall, then I'm golden.
19:47 < ware> someninjamaster: lv10 plzthnx
19:47 <@dc0de> cat /etc/resolv.conf
19:47 <@Catonic> I don't know. Can you?
19:47 <@dasunt> someninjamaster: Very much like DOS. It doesn't have a gui, it is so primitive.
19:47 < Synx__> indeed, and what im asking is... how can i tell which is actually doing the resolving because 2 of the ones set may be bad
19:47 <@someninjamaster> if it doesnt have a gui it must suck
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19:47 <@sdodson> Synx__: nslookup then type "server"
19:47 <@Catonic> Here's the thing... it's DNS... if you have more than two DNS servers listed in ipconfig /all or /etc/resolv.conf, it will round-robin.
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19:48 <@sdodson> more than two?
19:48 < Synx__> so whats the deal, if it cant get to one it goes to the next?
19:49 <@JimShoe> right with patches, but not with installing adaware, spybot, firefox and so on
19:49 <@JimShoe> ww
19:49 <@dasunt> Quick question.
19:49 <@dasunt> Is it "Fuck you, God", or "Fuck You, God"?
19:50 <@sdodson> lower case y
19:50 <@JimShoe> i personally like "Fuck You, god" dont give god so much credit to be capital
19:50 < Synx__> fuck
19:50 < Synx__> $400 for plane tickets home for xmas
19:50 <@someninjamaster> ouch
19:50 < Synx__> i cannot afford any gifts, not even sure i can afford the airfare
19:51 <@sdodson> has anyone actually read the url and understans what they're doing?
19:51 <@someninjamaster> im lucky in the fact that most of my family live in a 5 mile radius
19:51 <@sdodson> the url in the topic?
19:51 <@someninjamaster> my aunt lives 3 miles from me
19:51 <@sdodson> i'd consider that to be unlucky
19:51 <@someninjamaster> my grandparents are 8 driveways down
19:51 <@sdodson> is this like a family plot?
19:51 <@someninjamaster> no
19:52 <@someninjamaster> we just all like this area
19:52 <@someninjamaster> its sorta out in the country
19:52 <@someninjamaster> but 15 minutes to nashville and the mall
19:52 <@sdodson> youlive with your folks or no?
19:52 <@someninjamaster> i live with them
19:53 <@someninjamaster> untill im out of college
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19:53 <@sdodson> why does real estate appreciate while nothing else appreciates reasonably?
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19:53 <@someninjamaster> supply and demand
19:53 <@someninjamaster> demand is high supply is low
19:54 < Synx_hm> sdodson, you use tor and reload on minicity?
19:54 <@someninjamaster> hell an acre in bellemeade is going for a 1.5 mil now
19:54 <@dasunt> sdodson: Why lower case 'you'? Isn't a pronoun, when referring to God, capitalized according to the traditional English rules?
19:56 < Synx_hm> omg frozen left over turkey/stuffing/potatos w00t
19:56 < Synx_hm> sooooo goood
19:57 <@sdodson> dasunt: i dunno
19:57 <@sdodson> Synx_hm: nah, i meant the prediction thing
19:58 <@dasunt> Your Rights Online: MP3 Format Still Gathering Momentum
19:59 <@dasunt> Tags: ogg, music, aac, aacsucks (tagging beta)
19:59 <@dasunt> LOL.
19:59 <@dasunt> Ha ha, its changed now:
19:59 <@dasunt> ogg, music, aac, aacsucks, anythingbutwma (tagging beta)
20:00 < Synx_hm> is it worth $50 more to not drive 3 hours to dallas and pay terminal parking fee
20:00 < Synx_hm> i think so
20:00 < Synx_hm> parking for 2 weeks adds up quick
20:01 <@dasunt> 3 hours.
20:01 <@dasunt> That's 180 miles?
20:01 < Synx_hm> iirc its 230 or so but let me check
20:01 <@dasunt> 180 miles / 20 mpg = 9 gallons @ $3/gallon = $27.
20:01 <@dasunt> So it is only roughly $20 more.
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20:02 < Synx_hm> plus parking at like 8 a day
20:02 < Synx_hm> on nice call
20:02 < Synx_hm> 190 miles
20:03 < Synx_hm> im so used to doing time/distance math at 400 to 500 or so knots
20:03 < Synx_hm> hehe
20:03 <@dasunt> $50 more both ways?
20:03 <@dasunt> How is the public transportation in Dallas?
20:04 < Synx_hm> duno
20:04 < Synx_hm> and im not parking my car some random place
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20:04 < Synx_hm> not to mention last time i almost got stuck in the long term parking because i had an injector sick open for 3 hours
20:05 < Synx_hm> when the flat bed finally go there it started up fine haha
20:05 < Synx_hm> can anyone get to what.cd
20:11 < ware> looks like its down for me
20:13 <@dasunt> Someone ship me a hot young female human, kthnx.
20:14 * Synx_hm is in the que for a female
20:14 <@dasunt> I deserve one.
20:14 <@dasunt> A non-insane one.
20:15 <@dasunt> Of course, I'm mixing tetracycline with alcohol, so I may be killing myliver.
20:15 * rhia ships a feverish 19 yr old crack addict to dasunt
20:15 < Synx_hm> tetracycline eh, make your bones turn orange?
20:15 <@rhia> would highly recommend some antibiotics and STD medicines first
20:15 <@dasunt> rhia: Ha! Worst she can do is steal all my shit. I laugh at that after the ex.
20:16 < Synx_hm> btw drinking and guys != good idea
20:16 <@rhia> dasunt: no, worst she can do is slice your throat for the $20 bucks in your wallet after giving you AIDS
20:16 < Synx_hm> fuck
20:16 < Synx_hm> guns
20:17 <@rhia> Synx_hm: well, um, your first analogy was pretty apt as well
20:17 < Synx_hm> hehe
20:17 < Synx_hm> Foo Fighters - The Pretender
20:18 < Synx_hm> OMGWTFBBQ such a good song
20:18 <@dasunt> rhia: Bah, death isn't that bad.
20:18 <@dasunt> Synx_hm: Drinking and guys? I am a guy.
20:19 < Synx_hm> well i got spokked the other night, and was hammered walking around my house with my glock holstered on my hip
20:19 <@someninjamaster> wow
20:19 <@someninjamaster> that was really stupid
20:19 <@someninjamaster> thats the kind of thing where they take all your guns forever
20:20 < Synx_hm> i wasn't stupid about it... it wasn't chambered and i had it properly holstered but ya
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20:20 < Synx_hm> still prob not the best of idea
20:20 <@dasunt> I like Iced Earth.
20:20 <@rhia> dasunt: you find me someone who died and came back after, oh, a couple days or so who says the same, then I might stay around to listen to that comment
20:20 <@dasunt> Synx_hm: Spokked?
20:20 < Synx_hm> spooked
20:20 <@dasunt> rhia: If I find someone who comes back from the dead, I have a new religion.
20:20 <@rhia> dasunt: -- zombies
20:21 < Synx_hm> house across the street got broken into a few weeks back
20:21 <@rhia> dasunt: then you have no empirical evidence to back up your comment
20:21 <@dasunt> rhia: I dunno. I've gone through a bad breakup. Playing russian roulette with a glock does have its appeal.
20:22 < Synx_hm> kinda hard to play russian roulette with a glock though... im goign to go out on a limb and say its going to fire the first time you pull
20:22 < Synx_hm> but i guess maybe thats the point
20:23 <@dasunt> Synx_hm: Yes, that is.
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20:23 < Synx_hm> sry im a bit slow
20:23 <@dasunt> I understand.
20:23 <@rhia> dasunt: bleffff - have a vertebrae broken in half, then have your son run over by his own truck with spinal injuries, cranial injuries, and 3rd degree burns all over his legs - a "bad breakup" ain't shit (from the woman whose been thru 4 divorces)
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20:24 < Synx_hm> holy jesus, that all happen rhia ?
20:24 <@rhia> dasunt: from what you've posted, i like you, but, um, it's been a while - either quit yer bitchin or grow a pair, um kay?
20:24 * rhia hugs dasunt
20:24 <@someninjamaster> im curious how does one get ran over by your own vehical
20:24 < Synx_hm> ive seen it
20:25 < Synx_hm> had a friend run them selves over, they also hit them selves in the face with their own bat too
20:25 <@rhia> Synx_hm: pretty much what i just said - i broke my back, then when i was *just* released to go back to work, my youngest (while living with his dad) decided that "car (truck) surfing was "cool" and tried to impress some girls
20:26 < Synx_hm> yikes
20:26 < Synx_hm> how old are you kids rhia?
20:26 <@someninjamaster> dizam
20:26 <@rhia> he was 17 at the time, now 22
20:26 <@dasunt> rhia: I dunno. I don't ever want to go through what I went through ever again.
20:27 <@rhia> dasunt: so, live and learn - emphasis on LIVE
20:27 <@dasunt> rhia Yes, there are worse things.
20:27 <@dasunt> but damn.
20:27 <@dasunt> Some things you remember for the rest of your life.
20:28 <@rhia> he definitely will, he has major scars & skin grafts, and a metal spinal cage, and a10" metal rod holding his pelvis together ... think he has enough to keep the memory "alive"
20:28 < Synx_hm> yikes
20:29 <@someninjamaster> time for some counter-strike
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20:29 <@dasunt> rhia: Do they remove the metal after awhile?
20:29 <@rhia> got lucky, if the wheels had gone just 3" higher, he would have suffered major soft tissue damage to numerous organs and may not have survived
20:29 <@dasunt> rhia: I know the metal in my wrist could be removed if I wanted to by now.
20:29 <@rhia> dasunt: no, it's the only thing holding his broken pelvis bones together ... it stays
20:29 <@dasunt> (Yah, I have some physical injuries as well)
20:30 <@dasunt> rhia: The bones aren't knitting back together?
20:30 <@rhia> the truck literally flattened both pelvic bones - shattered in numerous pieces
20:30 <@rattle> http://www.memestreams.net/users/rattle/blogid10323492/
20:30 < Synx_hm> theres all sorts of air in my water lines today, they must have hooked up a house down the street
20:30 <@rattle> .. The spelling mistake is still there.
20:30 <@dasunt> rhia: So there is nothing to knit together?
20:31 <@rhia> they'll knit, but no where near strong enough to hold him upright without the extra support
20:31 <@dasunt> Weird.
20:31 <@dasunt> I'm not questioning you, I'm just curious how that works.
20:31 <@dasunt> Er, not doubting you.
20:31 <@rhia> he's at 90% of what he was, but will not be able to ever get to 100% again, too much damage
20:32 <@rhia> one pelvic bone was so flattened that the doc said it was like trying to piece together a really difficult puzzle
20:33 <@rhia> the other was simply fractured in a few places (4?5? can't really remember, but i could go look at his x-rays)
20:34 <@rhia> had to have a pin inserted at his knee to pull the thigh bone back down into position before attempting to work on the pelvis
20:35 <@dc0de> rhia that's scary...
20:35 < Synx_hm> http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/8f52/
20:35 < Synx_hm> hehe
20:36 <@dc0de> I'm just happy to not have died in my myriad of stupid "tricks" that broke bones.
20:36 <@rhia> dasunt: damn straight -
20:37 <@dasunt> dc0de: I still have torn ligaments in my wrist.
20:37 <@rhia> btw, the burns came from being pinned up against the muffler and exhaust ... burned thru numerous muscles at the groin, down to bone on his femur and again on his knee
20:37 <@tzanger> that shirt rocks
20:37 <@tzanger> rhia: that's some serious damage, holy shit
20:38 <@dasunt> That's a spiffy shirt.
20:38 <@tzanger> my kids are 12,8,7 and 3, I have a little while yet to worry about that
20:38 <@dasunt> I'm from the peppermint tribe.
20:38 <@dasunt> Where people come and then they die.
20:38 <@dasunt> To hail me, oh hail me.
20:39 <@dasunt> With tomohawks of candy cain
20:39 <@rhia> tzanger: start teaching them that Hollywood != reality, despite the "reality" shows ... altho, damn it, my son did know that ... sigh
20:39 <@dasunt> We split their heads and eat their bains
20:39 < Synx_hm> i cant believe usr/bin/grl is still around
20:41 <@rhia> dasunt: ? ??????
20:41 <@tzanger> http://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/dump/turbo-encabulator/
20:42 <@tzanger> heh
20:42 <@dasunt> rhia: A song by saigon kick.
20:42 <@dasunt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saigon_Kick
20:43 <@rhia> dasunt: bottom line ... it's a freakin' breakup with another basically healthy human - life could and can deal you MUCH fucking worse ... mourning is OVER, so, get over it already, quit wallowing in your own self made misery
20:44 <@dasunt> rhia: Let me tell you something.
20:44 <@dasunt> I broke the wrist over a year ago.
20:44 <@dasunt> I'm still a tad cautious of runningg.
20:44 <@dasunt> And ice scares me.
20:44 <@rhia> dasunt: and, like i said before, i like you - hence the slap ... quit killing yourself every night & day over something that is over
20:44 <@dasunt> I'd rather break my wrist than go back to my ex.
20:44 <@dasunt> I don't want to meet anyone like her.
20:44 <@rhia> then don't go back - solved
20:44 <@dasunt> And damned if I know how I could avoid people like her, because I truly thought she was sane.
20:45 <@rhia> dasunt: we (female) aren't all like her - the human race wouldn't have evolved to this level (questionable as it is) if we were
20:45 <@dasunt> rhia: I know not every woman is like that.
20:45 <@dasunt> But there are some like that.
20:45 <@dasunt> And burning bridges gets old quickly.
20:46 <@rhia> dasunt: yeah, and some of you males like to torture, film, & kill women ... but we still go out and trust that not ALL of you do that
20:46 <@rhia> dasunt: pm?
20:46 <@dasunt> Sure.
20:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Or date men
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20:59 < Synx_hm> hrm
21:00 < Synx_hm> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BOO4Y8/ref=nosim/?tag=fatwalletcom&linkCode=as1
21:00 < Synx_hm> ~minilink
21:00 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/amazon.com/XZG7s
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21:19 <@sdodson> http://nugget.livejournal.com/126651.html
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21:25 <@sdodson> http://mjg59.livejournal.com/78590.html
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22:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Evening, freakn
22:00 < freakn> moo
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22:00 * Corydon76-dig milks freakn
22:01 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: mu ..... milk that ;)
22:01 <@Jagobah> !
22:01 * Corydon76-dig adds another Greek letter to rhia
22:02 * rhia hates tetanus shots ... always make me grouchy & irritable
22:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, I had one of those in October... my 10 year booster...
22:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Arm was sore for a week
22:03 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: more Chinese, but, whatever floats the boat
22:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Also had my Hep A booster at the same time
22:03 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: well, a staple thru the thumb meat and exiting the nail kind of requires one... damnit
22:03 <@Corydon76-dig> ouch
22:04 <@rhia> pain didn't hit till about 4 hrs later, thankfully
22:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Why god made codeine
22:04 <@rhia> 1st response was "um, Drag0n, think i could use your help" ( to pull the staple out)
22:05 <@sdodson> what'd you do?
22:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, you'd found my weakness that makes me shiver and curl up in a ball
22:05 <@baudburn> rhia: you go out to coffee shops very often?
22:06 * sdodson makes sure to keep some rusty staples on hand to keep corydon away
22:06 <@Drag0n> my first reaction was to grab some pliers and tell her not to look
22:06 <@rhia> was wrapping a pole with sisal for a cat scratcher, staple gun hit a knot in the wood and threw the staple back thru my thumb
22:06 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: it's not so much the metal, it's the description of it going through one side and coming out the other
22:07 <@rhia> baudburn: not as often as i'd like... found a local good one?
22:07 <@baudburn> rhia: pretty close to you guys, yeah
22:07 <@baudburn> White Rock Coffee is very cool.. its just out northwest highway
22:07 <@sdodson> bah, i'm getting really bad about not reading entire words
22:07 <@baudburn> coffee is delicious as well
22:07 <@rhia> Corydon76-dig: so much for getting my nails done for the x-mas party
22:07 <@sdodson> brimstone and baudburn start and end with the same letter and are roughly the same length
22:07 <@rhia> yeah, i like whiterock
22:07 <@Corydon76-dig> ow ow ow ow ow ow ow
22:07 <@Mirage> you still have 9 more, don't you?
22:08 <@baudburn> go for the jumpstart.. drip coffee + espresso
22:08 <@baudburn> sdodson: i assure you, we're nothing alike
22:08 <@rhia> Mirage: hehe, more like ... oh, maybe 5 by now
22:08 <@baudburn> rhia: cool. I really like it.
22:08 <@Drag0n> umm, sdodson read much, an e and an n are nt the same letter
22:08 <@baudburn> rhia: you should also check out good records on lower greenville if you get a chance
22:08 <@baudburn> cds are cheap there and the place is locally owned.. it's also awesome
22:08 <@baudburn> not to mention about 100 yards from my front door :)
22:09 <@rhia> coolness, will look them up
22:09 <@rhia> and then knock on your door and run
22:09 <@baudburn> hah.. good thing you don't know which door is mine
22:09 <@Drag0n> we have vays of findink out
22:09 <@Mirage> baudburn: where are you at now/
22:09 <@baudburn> Mirage: Dallas
22:09 <@sdodson> Drag0n: erm ya
22:09 <@baudburn> haha
22:10 <@rhia> baudburn: i is patient and not afraid of meeting strange people
22:10 <@baudburn> Drag0n: have i ever met either you or rhia before?
22:10 <@rhia> baudburn: um, nope
22:10 <@baudburn> yeah, didn't think so
22:10 <@Mirage> Friends of mine used to go hit "Bill's" down there for all their vinyl.
22:10 <@baudburn> Mirage: you aren't in dallas, are you?
22:10 <@rhia> tho, if you were at PN 3 4 or 5 you might have seen us
22:10 <@baudburn> i was at 3 i think
22:11 <@baudburn> and 5.. i think
22:11 <@baudburn> i don't really remember :)
22:11 <@Mirage> I don't know if it's still around, but from what I heard Bill is gay and gives discounts if your cute and act a little limp-wristed
22:11 <@baudburn> Hahah
22:11 <@Mirage> baudburn: no..i'm in nashville. from OK and have family in dallas
22:11 <@baudburn> ahh
22:12 <@baudburn> Mirage: ahh.. dallas is pretty cool
22:12 <@rhia> Mirage: what family here in Dallas can we find and ruin your reputation, er, give our regards?
22:12 <@Mirage> rhia: they finally got smart and moved north of the city..escaping the mrtoplex
22:13 <@Mirage> er, metroplex
22:13 <@baudburn> burbs = waq
22:13 <@baudburn> lower greenville ftw
22:13 <@rhia> damn shot, joints hurt, slight fever ... think i am out for the night ...sigh
22:13 <@baudburn> :)
22:13 <@rhia> yeah, lower greenville is awesome
22:13 <@baudburn> rhia: there's a new bar that just opend here
22:13 <@baudburn> called crush..
22:13 <@baudburn> turns out its become a defacto lesbian bar
22:14 <@baudburn> and next door "lucky's roadhouse" which used to be the beagle is turning into a gay bar
22:14 <@Mirage> Deep Elm and Lizard Lounge is still around aren;t they?
22:15 <@baudburn> Mirage: yeh
22:15 <@baudburn> Mirage: lizard loung still does the Church (goth dance club night) 2x a week too
22:15 <@baudburn> and people get craazzy dressed up for that shite
22:16 <@Mirage> Lizard Lounge was always fun. When I lived in Wichita Falls I used to pop down for concerts. Ministry, NIN, Thrill Kill, etc
22:16 <@baudburn> ya its pretty legit
22:17 <@Mirage> for most of my friends in "the scene" back in tulsa..all dressed up == normal
22:17 <@baudburn> haha
22:17 <@baudburn> well, its fun to go see that
22:18 <@baudburn> though i often wonder how one gets a job looking like that
22:19 <@Mirage> i miss those days. IKON and SRO were the clubs of choice. Almost no fights within the group.. and it was a pretty diverse mix of goths, cyberpunks, preppies, ravers, etc, etc
22:19 <@Mirage> ever been to hot topic?
22:20 <@baudburn> sure, but there's far too many people there to have them all working at hot topic
22:27 <@sdodson> http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-bacon-not-done.jpg
22:27 <@dasunt> drunk again.
22:27 <@dasunt> Gah.
22:27 <@sdodson> you say again, but i question when you were last sober
22:28 <@JimShoe> great pic
22:36 <@dasunt> I'm going to get flamed.
22:36 <@dasunt> Arguing with someone that if they are really for gender equality, they should be advocating equal leave for parents of newborn children, regardless of the gender of said parent.
22:39 <@Mirage> yeah, women should only get 3 days max too...or men 3-6 months
22:40 <@dasunt> The sad thing is that I bet the same people who argue that it is expected that women need time off work to raise their families are the same people who bitch that men make more.
22:40 <@dasunt> Well congrats, you're advocating a system where men are, by law, more reliable workers.
22:42 <@brimstone> brimstone and baudburn don't end with the same letter sdodson
22:42 <@sdodson> same sort of sound
22:43 <@sdodson> we've already shown that my mind isn't paying much attention to the letters
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23:11 <@sdodson> http://www.news.com/2300-7349_3-6220587-4.html?tag=ne.gall.pg wtf sort of wiring job is that?
23:14 <@dasunt> The humorous thing about the flamewar I'm in is that it was triggered by someone mentioning that she wanted women not to be *special*, but to be treated as normal human beings.
23:14 <@dasunt> And I replied that I don't think the majority of people really want that.
23:14 <@dasunt> And then I get flamed because I argue for equal leave for both parents after the birth of a child.
23:14 <@sdodson> as for time off for preggers, there's all sorts of post partem emotional crap (or whatever the term is)
23:15 <@someninjamaster> sdodson: no wonder their products
23:15 <@dasunt> sdodson: So what are fathers? Sperm donors and paychecks?
23:15 <@someninjamaster> suck they cant even wire the damn war room
23:16 <@dasunt> sdodson: Or after the birth of a child, are most women unable to go to work, but able to raise a child? Seems odd too me.
23:17 <@sdodson> I'm saying that there are special emotional/hormonal issues which arrise immediately after giving birth. And no I don't think the father is likely to suffer from them.
23:17 <@sdodson> someninjamaster: ya, that's some ghetto shit man
23:18 <@dasunt> sdodson: So women are programmed to raise children, while men are programmed to work for a living?
23:18 <@sdodson> I'm not commenting on that.
23:18 <@dasunt> sdodson: Hey, I only stated what you were leading up too.
23:18 <@sdodson> I'm just saying that I think it's reasonable to have significantly more time off around the birth than required to simply maintain physical health.
23:18 <@someninjamaster> im wondering how much war room stuff you can do with 4 moniters
23:19 <@sdodson> war room/noc shit is all for show
23:19 <@sdodson> I don't think a NOC that looks like something out of wargames is functional.
23:19 <@dasunt> sdodson: All I'm saying is that if you want fathers to have equal time in the lives of their children, you better be willing to treat them as an equal parent.
23:19 <@Mirage> sdodson: i agree
23:20 <@sdodson> I'm only speaking to time off around birth, I think you mentioned that, right?
23:20 <@sdodson> I'm talking like a month or two
23:20 <@someninjamaster> but when dealing with proably a no limit budget
23:20 <@sdodson> or perhaps 12 weeks which is covered by FMLA
23:20 <@someninjamaster> you could afford to put cool shit on it
23:21 <@sdodson> A lot of guys at work are taking off for 'materinity leave'
23:22 <@someninjamaster> wth
23:22 <@dasunt> See, I think for wage equality, we'd be better off if both genders had to take time off.
23:22 <@someninjamaster> my mom was at work the day is was born
23:23 <@someninjamaster> and went back a week later
23:23 <@someninjamaster> my dad didnt take any days off
23:23 <@sdodson> Ya, and see what happened?!
23:23 <@someninjamaster> yeah i know
23:23 <@someninjamaster> i work to damn hard
23:23 <@sdodson> oh wait, i was just joking, sorry if something actually happened
23:24 <@someninjamaster> its part of the family buisness thing
23:24 <@someninjamaster> i was stamping things when i was 5 years old
23:24 <@someninjamaster> i started pulling a 40 hour week in the summer when i was 11 or 12
23:30 <@sdodson> http://ourfounder.typepad.com/leblog/WindowsLiveWriter/Menu.jpg
23:41 <+coil> wikipedia? wtf
23:42 <@sdodson> it's apparently spicy
23:46 <@sdodson> nothing like getting paged right after going to bed
23:52 <+coil> paged from who
23:53 <@someninjamaster> i am so going to do this some day http://www.fukung.net/v/7455/foiledfl2.jpg
23:56 <@Mirage> i've seen it..and it was great. they did it in such a way that all the drawers, etc were still functional. the guy who they did it to left it for a couple months..which was when the foil was starting to get torn and ratty
23:59 <@Mirage> http://www.fukung.net/v/19/americans.gif
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