--- Log opened Thu Nov 29 00:00:57 2007
00:07 <@wontonjoe> hello hello
00:08 <@wontonjoe> applied for my concealed pistol  permit today
00:08 <@sdodson> ahw man, that means i can't make fun of you anymore
00:08 <@sdodson> i may get shot
00:08 <@wontonjoe> no
00:09 <@wontonjoe> i cant just go around shooting people i dont like
00:09 <@wontonjoe> unfortunately
00:09 <@wontonjoe> but hay if you get a gun and you pull first well talk turkey
00:09 <@wontonjoe> well...we will
00:09 <@wontonjoe> :)
00:10 <@wontonjoe> nah seriously i want to go do shooting range stuff
00:10 <@brimstone> apostrophes kill wontonjoe
00:10 <@wontonjoe> aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh  theyre killing me
00:11 <@wontonjoe> '
00:11 <@wontonjoe> ,
00:11 <@wontonjoe> ow
00:11 <@wontonjoe> the main reason for the permit is the murder in these apartments day after thanksgiving
00:12 <@wontonjoe> a group walked up to several people outside opened fire, killed one critically wounded another, and pistol whipped a third
00:12 <@wontonjoe> im moving asap, but until then
00:15 <@wontonjoe> ive got to see what kind of gun i can get for around a hundred , probably not much of anything
00:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh, any gun you get for $100 is as likely to blow up in your face as it is to get off a round
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00:16 <@Corydon76-dig> You're looking at $250 for .22 pistol
00:18 <@wontonjoe> 250 isnt bad
00:18 <@wontonjoe> i just want someting small but if ever needed functional
00:19 <@Corydon76-dig> OTOH, since you never intend to shoot anybody, a $5 water pistol will do you just as well
00:19 <@wontonjoe> lol
00:19 <@wontonjoe> no one ever intends to shoot someone till they have to
00:20 <@Corydon76-dig> There's always another way
00:20 <@wontonjoe> i want to use it for shooting range purposes and put it away unless i ever need it
00:20 <@wontonjoe> yes you can always run
00:20 <@wontonjoe> unless the other guy speaks spanish and has a gun
00:20 <@wontonjoe> im not bilingual and id rather not get shot
00:21 <@wontonjoe> mostly mexicans (illegal) here
00:21 <@Corydon76-dig> not all illegals are would-be murderers
00:21 <@wontonjoe> here is the sale paper im reviewing https://pistolandpawn.com/Larrys_Nov30_2007.gif
00:21 <@Corydon76-dig> in fact, I doubt any more than the general populace
00:22 <@wontonjoe> i should still protect myself
00:22 <@wontonjoe> just in case someone is unwilling to talk about shooting me
00:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Best way to protect yourself is to arm the police with intel
00:22 <@wontonjoe> people are also getting held up for money heavily in this neighberhood lately
00:23 <@Corydon76-dig> If the cops know where the drug deals are going down and where the gang bangers are hanging out, that makes their jobs that much easier and gets those people off the street
00:23 <@wontonjoe> how will i arm the police when theres a gun in my face nd im getting shot, i understand what your saying, but this is a dangerous place to live and the police know all about it
00:23 <@wontonjoe> cops sit outside here almost 24/7
00:24 <@wontonjoe> there trying to clean up this part of hsv, unfortunately its slow going
00:24 <@Corydon76-dig> The cops know enough to know it's dangerous, but they don't know where every hoodlum with a gun is
00:24 <@wontonjoe> nor do i
00:24 <@wontonjoe> till they show up :)
00:24 <@someninjamaster> whos looking at a $250 .22
00:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Community policing is what works
00:24 <@someninjamaster> btw corydon my mosin nagant was 100 bucks
00:25 <@Corydon76-dig> If the community does not protect the lawbreakers, they won't be able to hide
00:26 <@wontonjoe> i cant speak the same language as my neighbors, and they dont care, illegal aliens bring drugs and crime, id like to do what your saying, but i think its best if i protect myself and move asap since my lease is up, hopefully ill get in a good neighberhood with proper research and ill never have to worry about this further
00:26 <@someninjamaster> community policing would completely clean up the projects
00:26 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the idiot parents with the attitude of "my child could never..." which permit the greatest amount of crime
00:26 <@wontonjoe> ya if everyone is willing to work together its a great thing
00:26 <@wontonjoe> that is true
00:26 <@someninjamaster> wonton what kind of pistol are you going to get when you get your permit
00:27 <@wontonjoe> dunno
00:27 <@wontonjoe> im a total noob at pistols etc
00:27 <@someninjamaster> in that case
00:27 <@someninjamaster> go find a real cheap .22
00:27 <@someninjamaster> go to the range put about 2500 rounds through it
00:27 <@wontonjoe> im also gonna find soem local classes so i can learn
00:28 <@someninjamaster> then think about getting something bigger
00:28 <@wontonjoe> cool
00:28 <@someninjamaster> i started out with a bolt action .22 when i was 8
00:28 <@someninjamaster> then when i was 11 i got a pump action .22
00:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Guns only really work as a deterrent.  Once you have a gun in your face, it's already failed.  And if you shoot and kill somebody, the cops are coming after you
00:29 <@someninjamaster> then when i was 13 i got my first pistol a .22 single action revolver
00:29 <@someninjamaster> then when i was about 15 i started moving up to 9mm and .40
00:29 <@someninjamaster> if a guns in your face they cant come after you
00:30 <@wontonjoe> corydon my friend who is a cop put it this way you NEVER pull any weapon unless you intend to use it
00:30 <@Corydon76-dig> snm:  that's a nice theory, but I think you know that the cops will still come after you
00:30 <@someninjamaster> its not so much come after you
00:30 <@someninjamaster> you stay at the scene
00:30 <@someninjamaster> explane the situation
00:30 <@wontonjoe> but the fact that some folks know i carry will deter grief from those certain troublemakers greatly
00:30 <@someninjamaster> they investigate
00:31 <@Corydon76-dig> and then you get to pay a lawyer more than you make in a year to keep yourself out of jail
00:31 <@someninjamaster> not jail
00:31 <@someninjamaster> it would be civil
00:31 <@Corydon76-dig> You shoot and kill someone, it's criminal
00:31 <@someninjamaster> no its not
00:31 <@wontonjoe> ya your gonna get arrested if you shoot another person, but you run that risk if it ever comes to that, at least your not dead
00:32 <@someninjamaster> the law states if your life is in danger you are free to use any means to end the situation
00:32 <@someninjamaster> if a guy across the room from you pulls a knife you cant shoot
00:32 <@wontonjoe> sill gotta prove it and the dead guy cant say he beat you
00:32 <@Corydon76-dig> not any means.  The weasel word in the law is "reasonable"
00:32 <@Corydon76-dig> and what that word means isn't up to you
00:33 <@someninjamaster> the key thing is your alive to be sued
00:33 <@someninjamaster> i talked to cheif surpass about this
00:33 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not up to him, either
00:34 <@Corydon76-dig> it's up to the DA
00:34 <@wontonjoe> i need to move to a snooty neighberhood that all their is to it
00:34 <@someninjamaster> heh
00:34 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: buy a house
00:35 <@wontonjoe> is a springfield .45 auto a good deal at 469?
00:35 <@wontonjoe> orydon, if you can fix my credit ill go tomorrow
00:35 <@wontonjoe> corydon even
00:35 <@someninjamaster> not for concealed cary
00:35 <@wontonjoe> h ok
00:35 <@someninjamaster> and if your new to pistols you will kill yourself with that
00:35 <@Corydon76-dig> People who own their own homes have a vested interest in ensuring the neighborhood is safe... because it means that their property keeps its value
00:36 <@wontonjoe> damn .45 is that strong huh?
00:36 < remofor1> someninjamaster: bah, there is nothing wrong with the 1911 unless you are 5' tall or a woman
00:36 <@Corydon76-dig> There's no such instinct of preservation in apartments
00:37 <@someninjamaster> yeah but try to conceal that
00:37 <@wontonjoe> 1911?
00:37 <@someninjamaster> wonton i would start out with this
00:37 < remofor1> the springfeild .45 is one of hte 1911 family
00:37 <@someninjamaster> http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=86052982
00:37 <@someninjamaster> yep
00:37 <@wontonjoe> ah ok
00:37 <@wontonjoe>  http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=86052982  http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=86052982
00:37 <@someninjamaster> the ammo for its dirt cheap
00:37 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: even renting a house that is in the midst of other houses that are owned will do you a world of good
00:38 < remofor1> someninjamaster: itll fit in the small of my back without being too obvious
00:38 <@wontonjoe> im looking for a rental house n the area currently
00:38 < remofor1> its not a pocket pistol no
00:38 <@wontonjoe> remo your a big guy
00:38 <@wontonjoe> it would show up on me
00:38 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: just make sure that the other houses are owned by the people living in them... living in a rented house in the middle of other rented houses isn't going to do you as much good
00:39 <@someninjamaster> this is what im training with to use for concealed carry http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=85643239
00:39 <@wontonjoe> someninjamaster, i really want a more modern looking weapon, that thing has an old west looking flare to it
00:39 <@someninjamaster> thats one to learn on
00:39 <@wontonjoe> ah ok
00:40 <@someninjamaster> however i still carry mine every now and then through the woods
00:40 <@wontonjoe> Corydon76-dig i found some places in hazel green that sound pretty good 400 a month two bedroom utilities and wifi
00:40 <@wontonjoe> did you know n al pistol permit is only ten bucks here
00:40 <@someninjamaster> wontonjoe are you going to be carrying this around with you
00:40 <@wontonjoe> yes
00:40 <@someninjamaster> ok
00:41 <@wontonjoe> at least for a little while
00:41 <@someninjamaster> if it was for your appartment i would have said get a shotgun
00:41 <@wontonjoe> i may do that as well, we would have nieces and nephews over sometimes so im getting a safe too
00:42 <@someninjamaster> i definatly recomend that
00:42 <@wontonjoe> ya kids thinking its a water pistol could make for a bad day at the least
00:42 <@someninjamaster> right
00:42 < remofor1> wontonjoe: dont forget a few fragmentation grenades
00:43 <@wontonjoe> lol
00:43 <@wontonjoe> no, no grenades!
00:43 <@wontonjoe> the gf is going to apply for her pistol permit tomorrow as well
00:43 <@someninjamaster> i know a couple of guys with this safe
00:43 <@someninjamaster> http://www.gunvault.com/
00:45 <@someninjamaster> remofor1: what kind of 1911 do you have
00:46 <@wontonjoe> wow thats only 139 dollar safe nice
00:46 <@wontonjoe> ill definitely be purchasing that
00:46 <@wontonjoe> gf just told me she dosent want to lock hers ST00PID
00:46 <@wontonjoe> ill have to sway her into doing that, im ure she will eventually
00:47 <@someninjamaster> we have a full size gun safe here
00:48 <@someninjamaster> so when we go to bed we just unlock the safe
00:48 <@wontonjoe> that makes sense
00:48 <@someninjamaster> then when we wake up we lock it
00:48 <@wontonjoe> well the biometric thing would take just seconds to unlock, hopefully i can get her to put it in there
00:49 <@someninjamaster> i didnt know that one was biometric
00:49 <@wontonjoe> hmm let me douvle check
00:49 <@someninjamaster> oh
00:49 <@someninjamaster> they are makeing one now
00:50 <@wontonjoe> http://superpageshosting.com/gunvaultcom/pages/store/skudetail.nhtml?profile=handgunsafesminivaultstandard&uid=10004&returnURL=http%3A//superpageshosting.com/gunvaultcom/handgunsafesminivaultstandard
00:50 <@wontonjoe> i dunno if it is but it has the pad for fingers
00:50 <@someninjamaster> oh
00:50 <@someninjamaster> thats so you can feel the buttons in the dark
00:50 <@someninjamaster> you slide your hand in that groove
00:51 <@wontonjoe> oh
00:51 <@someninjamaster> then operate the buttons with each finger
00:51 <@wontonjoe> still a nice safe
00:51 <@someninjamaster> yeah
00:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Why is this sounding like net sex?
00:51 <@wontonjoe> heh
00:52 <@wontonjoe> you know whats weird, until now ive totally refused the idea of guns, absollutely disliked them
00:52 <@someninjamaster> i would recomend for what ever you get picking up some glaser safety rounds
00:52 <@someninjamaster> a gun is nothing but a tool
00:52 <@someninjamaster> its the person thats behind it thats the issue
00:53 <@someninjamaster> http://www.dakotaammo.net/products/glaser/glaser.htm
00:53 <@wontonjoe> i just read abou them
00:54 <@wontonjoe> interesting, so theyre safer dont wound people as much?
00:54 <@someninjamaster> they are designed to fragment when they hit
00:54 <@someninjamaster> so you dont get overpenitration
00:54 <@someninjamaster> if i remember correctly it wont penitrate drywall eather
00:55 <@wontonjoe> nice
00:55 <@wontonjoe> so you dont inadvertantly shoot someone and usually dont kill them im geussing
00:56 <@wontonjoe> still looks like it would hurt like hell
00:56 <@someninjamaster> oh it will kill you
00:57 <@someninjamaster> but its not going to go straight through and drop the guy behind them
00:57 <@wontonjoe> oh ok well thats good
00:57 <@someninjamaster> and its not going to travel through 2 or 3 walls if you miss
00:57 <@someninjamaster> http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/4800/ossp.gif
00:58 <@someninjamaster> this is a chart showing the percentage of one shot stops
00:58 <@someninjamaster> thats any shot that kills or incapacatets in one hit
01:00 <@wontonjoe>  HUNTSVILLE,
01:00 <@wontonjoe> AL,  US 	11/28/2007 	3:25 P.M. 	IN TRANSIT TO
01:00 <@wontonjoe> DORAVILLE,
01:00 <@wontonjoe> GA,  US 	11/28/2007 	4:24 P.M. 	DEPARTURE SCAN
01:00 <@wontonjoe> woohoo macbook is on its way
02:39 <@wontonjoe> can guns be sold or bought on ebay?
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03:10 <@wontonjoe> http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=9935_13105_13421_16904&products_id=103080
03:10 <@wontonjoe> i like this
03:10 < ngWho> whats that?
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06:53 < ware> blerp
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07:17 < ware> lazy heads.
07:27 <@SkyDog_> Morning all.
07:28  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
07:28 <@SkyDog_> Yo. Getting ready to leave for the office.
07:30 <@ladymerlin> fun fun
07:57 <@Dagmar> More fun than a holding cell full of hippies
07:59 <@dasunt> I hope my boss realizes I start at 11 today.
07:59 <@dasunt> I always start at 11 on Thursday.
08:04 <@dc0de> morning everyone.
08:09 <@dasunt> G'morning.
08:09 <@dasunt> What's up in dc0de land?
08:10 <@dc0de> getting ready to go to my client
08:11 <@dc0de> realized that I forgot my tooth brush... yuk
08:11 <@dc0de> gotta go find a cvs or publix
08:12 <@dc0de> catch you all later...
08:14 <@dasunt> *nods*
08:16  * polerin sits on dc0de's shoulder and passes out marshmallows
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08:27 <@SkyDog_> Morning all (again)
08:27 <@SkyDog_> waiting on the coffee to brew.
08:29 <@dasunt> Shouldn't you be going to work by now?
08:29 <@dasunt> Or are you at work in the Eastern time zone?
08:30 <+coil> shouldn't you be at work dasunt
08:30 <@SkyDog_> dasunt: I am sitting in my office right now.
08:32 <@dasunt> coil: In theory, I work at 11.
08:32 <@dasunt> Okay, got an email from my boss.
08:32 <@dasunt> Yep, 11.
08:32 <+coil> you have a job?
08:33 <@dasunt> coil: Of course.
08:33 <@dasunt> coil: How do I expect to pay for my apartment otherwise?
08:33 <+coil> sucking cock doesn't count
08:34 <@dasunt> I don't suck cock, I work in IT....
08:34 <@dasunt> Er wait.
08:34 <@dasunt> Ne'ermind.
08:35 <@dasunt> I stand corrected.
08:35 <+coil> haha
08:37 <@brimstone> IT is a thankless job
08:38 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: thank you for all of your hard work.
08:38  * brimstone gets an idea on how to rank servers
08:38 <@brimstone> unplug them and measure the time until someone complains
08:38 <@poiupoiu> it's people like brimstone that make the network go
08:38 <@poiupoiu> ... or in this case, not work
08:38  * brimstone goes beep beep
08:39 <@brimstone> Corydon76-dig, your welcome
08:39 <@dasunt> brimstone: I'm in the general repair stuff too, which really sucks.
08:40 <@dasunt> brimstone: And I mean *general*, we aren't a wipe & reload shop like bestbuy.
08:40 <@dasunt> (Well, we do a ton of wipe and reloads, because they are cost effective for our residential customers).
08:40 <@brimstone> so, what's "*general*"
08:40 <@brimstone> ?
08:40 <@dasunt> brimstone: A decent percentage of our clients are industrial/manufacturering.
08:40 <@dasunt> CNC shops.
08:41 <@dasunt> Which often means ancient applications running under DOS.
08:43 <@dasunt> Oh, and we have a small sideline in security systems.  But those are pretty painless.
08:44 <@dasunt> Their PC systems, with specialized camera cards that run a customized linux on a CF card in a CF->IDE adapter.
08:44 <@dasunt> The only PITA with those is installation.
08:44 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, h0, h0, h0ez!
08:45 <@dasunt> I'm enjoying coffee drinking.
08:45 <@dasunt> Just started the habit again.
08:45 <+coil> dasunt: drink more
08:45 <@brimstone> heh
08:45 <@dasunt> Its like gaining an extra hour of sleep a night.
08:46 <+coil> dasunt: gimme coffee before i spill your coffee
08:46 <@Dolemite> I think I'm gonna go make some hot chocolate
08:46 <@Dolemite> brb
08:46 <+coil> make mocha coffee
08:47 <@SkyDog_> Habit? Habit? It's a way of life, motherfucker!
08:47 <@dasunt> OTOH, I need a better coffee pot.
08:47 <@dasunt> One with a timer.
08:47 <@dasunt> Or maybe I should buy some X10 stuff.
08:48 <+coil> nerd
08:48 <@SkyDog_> I keep the grounds in the fridge, and only put them in the filter when I am ready to brew it.
08:48 <@SkyDog_> coil: My office has X10 modules in it... You calling me a nerd too?
08:48 <@dasunt> SkyDog_: Right now, my grounds rae in the freezer.
08:48 <@dasunt> SkyDog_: What are you using X10 to control?
08:48 <+coil> SkyDog_: nerd.
08:49 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, you're probably right. Well, I prefer 'Geek'.
08:49 <+coil> i said nerd on purpose
08:49 <@SkyDog_> Them fighting words.
08:49  * coil ducks
08:51 <@SkyDog_> I have a light in the corner of my office, and a fan behind me. I just prefer to have it where I don't have to get up to turn them on/off.
08:52 <@SkyDog_> I guess the correct moniker would be "slacker" or "bum".
08:52 <@brimstone> J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, the Slack Master
08:52 <@dasunt> SkyDog_: That's what I'm considering doing.
08:52 <@dasunt> I have two lamps in the living room, and since the PC already has an infrared transceiver...
08:54 <@Dolemite> Hey, Tubby, why didn't you bother to stop by yesterday and say hello on your way to your meeting in my building?
08:55 <@dasunt> The tile guy just sprayed shit all over my wall.
08:55 <@dasunt> <_<
08:56 <+coil> eat it dasunt
08:57 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Well, ralph says I am not to consort with "you people'.
08:57 <@SkyDog_> :)
08:57 <@SkyDog_> When we got done, we came down to check out the server room, and you were already gone home.
08:57 <@Dolemite> Tell Ralph that what we have between us is something that no other man can tear apart, though Corydon has tried.
08:58 <@SkyDog_> I know, I know. I keep trying to tell him, but he cups his hands over his ears and keeps saying "LALALALA" out loud.
09:01 <@Dolemite> Well we finally get to start taking 2.0 to the VU Day Care on Dec 17
09:01 <@Dolemite> We checked out the one over on Belcourt and liked it exponentially better than the one next to me.
09:02 <@Dolemite> Of course, a lot of that had to do with the director over the center.
09:02 <@Dolemite> s/director/manager
09:03 <@Dagmar> The pointy hat and green nose put you off?
09:04 <@Dagmar> There's in here doing fiber stuff and this dude keeps holding up this widget and the fiber like he's filling a syringe and it's giving me flashes from getting allergy shots as a kid.
09:05 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Can't sleep, the fiber will eat me.
09:05 <@Dagmar> I swear it looks like he's filling a syringe
09:05 <@Dagmar> If it weren't already cold in here the hair on the back of my neck would be standing up
09:07 <@dasunt> I wish the X10 lamp modules would work with CF.
09:07 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: That's cool. So now you're going to be able to work longer and pick him up later, right?
09:07 <@Dagmar> Work with CF?
09:07 <@Dolemite> I could, but why would I want to work longer?
09:07 <@Dagmar> dasunt: You mean the little fluorescents?
09:07 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Yes.
09:08 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Why wouldn't they?
09:08 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: No shit. I am enjoying the hours around this joint.
09:08 <@Dolemite> But yes, it will give me much more flexibility.  No more scramble to get out of town and to LaVergne before 6 PM.
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09:08 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Yeah, I know, that time clock is kicking your ass
09:08 <@SkyDog_> Bill called in sick, Ralph is off today, so Brian and I have the keys to the castle.
09:08 <@Dolemite> You buying me lunch today?
09:08 <@Dagmar> dasunt: I don't know about the ones that plug into the bulb socket itself, but the ones that plug into the wall seem to work fine with my little *blacklight* fluorescents here
09:09 <@SkyDog_> Yeah. I'm still the second person in the office inthe AM. Bill just gets here at 6:45.
09:09 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Hmmmm, I was told that they would have problems with CF.
09:09 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Not today. Possibly monday of next week.
09:09 <@Dolemite> Man, you slacker!
09:10 <@Dagmar> dasunt: I haven't noticed any problems, and don't understand why someone would say that.  The things use WAY less power than normal
09:10 <@Dagmar> ...so it's not like you're going to overload those dinky 15A things with a bulb that uses 1/4th the power of incandescents.
09:10 <@dasunt> Dagmar: I dunno.
09:10 <@Dagmar> You won't be able to use the functionality that lets you turn them half-on or dim them, that's for sure, but that's just because of the type of bulb
09:11 <@Dagmar> That may be what they were thinking about
09:11 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Hmmmm, looking it up, found a few people who say there are problems, a few other people who say they work fine.
09:11 <@Dagmar> Unless they can be specific about what kind of problems, I suspect they might be having issues elsewhere
09:11 <@Dagmar> I've been flipping the blacklights off and on for about two weeks now
09:11 <@dasunt> "Many CFL lamps will fool the local control circuitry into falsely turning on a few moments after receiving an OFF command. There are plenty of modifications available on the Internet to get around this problem"
09:13 <@SkyDog_> Fuck. I have to wait until next tuesday to get converted over to the exchange server...
09:13 <@Dagmar> dasunt: That would require that the bulb keep some juice in it to spike the wire as it's being turned off
09:13 <@Dagmar> That hasn't happened yet here
09:14 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Ah, they didn't create yours on the Exchange server to begin with, eh?
09:14 <@dasunt> There is a other problem also with X10 module and CFL.
09:14 <@dasunt> Most X10 module have a courant sensing circuit to protect the module,
09:14 <@dasunt> but this circuit have to pass 1 to 4 watts in the lamp at all time
09:14 <@dasunt> when it's off. So most CFL do not like this and will either flash at a
09:14 <@dasunt> interval of 2 to 10 seconds or the balast will explode with a big pouf
09:14 <@dasunt> noise.  I did experience both action.
09:14 <@Dagmar> I don't think the little teeny 4W-12W things I've been using could even do that
09:14 <@dasunt> Dagmar: See, I don't get that.
09:14 <@Dagmar> Dude, the little fluorescents that plug into a light bulb socket have no balun like that
09:14 <@dasunt> Dagmar: What I just posted.
09:14 <@dasunt> Why would a CF module pass current through the bulb?
09:15 <@Dagmar> They're not talking about the little bulb ttypes there  They're talking about the long lightning bolt of Thor types
09:15 <@dasunt> (For its own circuitry, I mean)
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09:15 <@dasunt> Why shouldn't it pass current directly to the ground?
09:15 <@Dagmar> Cuz they're only connected to two prongs and ground isn't one of them
09:15 <@dasunt> That is, 110V -> circuit -> neutral
09:15 <@Dolemite> http://www.buynlarge.com/
09:15 <@dasunt> And 110V -> circuit -> triac -> bulb -> neutral.
09:16 <@dasunt> Instead of 110V -> circuit -> bulb -> neutral?
09:16 <@Dagmar> I think they're talking about the long-tube types
09:16 <@Dolemite> Pixar is going *all out* to create some viral marketing on their new movie
09:17 <@Dagmar> =<D  <-- ones shaped like this should have no problem.  Sounsd like he's talking about the =[#########]= type
09:17 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : You'll love this...  http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2023343777&size=o
09:17 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Yah, the only way that makes sense (to me) is if they are putting the control in-line with the bulb.
09:17 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Like an X10 wall switch.
09:18 <@Dagmar> Those really shoudn't be anny different from if you use the wall modules
09:18 <@Dagmar> ...but...
09:18 <@Dagmar> You sure as hell shoudl not use the switch replacements with a freaking overhead fluorescent tube
09:19 <@dasunt> Yes.
09:19 <@Dagmar> That dude does NOT have a "normal" configuration with his "1 to 4w at all time" stuff going on
09:20 <@Dagmar> He's keeping the balun hot so the lights come on faster
09:20 <@Dagmar> That's proo-o-oo-obably a no-no.
09:20 <@dasunt> Dagmar: ?
09:20 <@dasunt> 4w seems high, I agree.
09:20 <@dasunt> For a control circuit.
09:21 <@Dagmar> What control circuit could he possibly be talking about
09:21 <@Dagmar> that's what I don't get
09:21 <@Dagmar> When these modules are in off mode, there is *no* power at all coming out the back of them
09:21 <@Dagmar> You can lick them if you olike
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09:22 <@Dagmar> If he's trickling voltage into a flouro, I'm not suprised that the balun would go pewf
09:22 <@dasunt> Dagmar: The circuit that listens for the X10 signal?
09:22 < gkar> ok, what was that link again?
09:22 <@Dolemite> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2023343777&size=o
09:22 < ware> ahh i love my job
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09:22 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Yeah, but for one thing, that should be no different than having a clock radio plugged into the same wall outlet as a lamp
09:23 <@Dagmar> He's got something wired screwey there
09:23 <@Dagmar> The X10 module drawing power should not result in ANY stray current going through the appliance it's supposed to be powering
09:23 <@Dagmar> Maybe he IS being stupid and has it wired inline
09:24 <@Dagmar> The shit in this apartment, and my last apartment, had four wires connected to the wall switch
09:24 <@Dagmar> Throw the switch and it's all very much off
09:24 <@Dagmar> If he has the things connected inline like you're talking about, that would probably be wrong.
09:25 <@Dagmar> Man where's Larry when ya need him.  heh
09:25 <@Dagmar> ...and I don't mean NotLarry
09:25 <@Dagmar> There's an electrical contractor that's in here every month or so who would know when/if that is ever used in the states
09:26 <@dasunt> *nods*
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09:26 <@Dagmar> I would be scared to change a light bulb if there was no state where it was every truly and 100% off
09:26 <@Dagmar> s/every/ever/;
09:27 <@Dagmar> The little wall boxes you plug into the wall and then plug a lamp into should be *fine* with incandescent replacement bulbs
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09:28 <@dasunt> I think so.
09:28 <@Dagmar> I suspect tho that if you'd LIKE to blow one up, you could just set it to 50% and leave it like that.  :)
09:29 <@dasunt> Oh well, I'm picking up a CM11A and an appliance module from ebay.
09:29 <@Dagmar> I had a wierd problem with mine
09:29 <@dasunt> Looked at the lamp modules (the socket ones) and they look too big for my lamp.
09:29 <@dasunt> CM11A?
09:29 <@Dagmar> Yeah, that's the one with the serial interface right?
09:29 <@Dagmar> CM15A being the newer USB ones
09:30 <@Dagmar> Yeah, I had a weird problem with mine in that if I was monitoring it all the time, looking to record signals being sent, it's interface would get HOT and eventually crash
09:30 <@Dagmar> The use case they advertise for those should damn well allow you to monitor for signals at all times tho, so I figure mine might have been borderline defective
09:31 <@dasunt> Dagmar: Yah, the CM11A has the serial.
09:31 <@dasunt> It is supposed to work well with one of the linux X10 command line software programs.
09:32 <@Dagmar> I postponed getting a CM15A ebcause the interface code for them is still of questionable functionality, partly because it depends on that pile of shit libusb
09:32 <@Dagmar> ..and it was dreadfully incomplete when I last saw it
09:32 <@Dagmar> If I could just chuck bytes at it like a serial port, I could figure it out
09:37 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Love the review of 2girls1cup... Took me a minute to get everyone off the phone so that I could comletely read it.
09:37 <@SkyDog_> What elloquence.
09:37 <@Dagmar> I don't even want to know what they wrote
09:38 <@GodFix> has anyone read Geek mafia: Mile Zero?
09:38 <@Dagmar> I had to do a lot of drinking to stifle those brain cells
09:39 <@Dagmar> GodFix: You mean http://manybooks.net/pages/dakanrother07geek_mafia_mile_zero/0.html
09:39 <@Jagobah> it's on my summer reading list ;)
09:39 <@GodFix> Dagmar: that's the one
09:39 <@GodFix> I've ben reading it in my spare time at work
09:39 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: I am firing up some oatmeal in my office for breakfast, you're welcome to come by for that..
09:40 < ware> SkyDog_: wheres that review?
09:40 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Unless you have the pastry chef over there making a pecan pie cheesecake to go with it, no thanks
09:40 <@Dolemite> I have instant oatmeal in my office already
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09:41 <@SkyDog_> Feh. whatever. See if I offer to feed you a cheap bland breakfast again.
09:42 <@SkyDog_> Although, LadyM made a really good pecan pie the other day...
09:45 <+coil> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/11/27/simmons.tn.cross.dressers.arrested.wmc?iref=videosearch
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09:47 <+coil> lol
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09:48 <@SkyDog_> Heya Mudflap.
09:48 <@MudFlap> morning.
09:54 <@dasunt> Paypal:  Sucking in so many ways it is probably a black hole.
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09:56 < ware> lol
09:56 < ware> dasunt: suck the chrome off a trailer hitch?
09:56 < ware> suck a bowling ball thru 10ft of garden hose?
09:57 <@dasunt> Yes.
09:58 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:59 < ware> heya nat-cho
10:02 <@dasunt> Woot, X10 crap acquired.
10:03 <@dasunt> I didn't pick up a filter, I'll just hope that my computer isn't that noisy.
10:03 <@dasunt> Anyways, my main machine is hooked up to a UPS.  That may help.
10:05 < NotLarry> ARRRRGGGGGGGG
10:06 < NotLarry> Can't decide what to get the kids for christmas, pirates or ninjas
10:06 <@SkyDog_> real ones?>
10:06 <@dasunt> NotLarry: Ninja pirates.
10:07 < ware> ninja boots
10:08 < NotLarry> ok, I bring in my documents and such on a small hd that I plug into my laptop at work.  Nothing occurs unless I access the drive (no drive activity/indexing/etc...) Last night I came in and my laptop was plugged into a different docking station (different nic built in) and as soon as I  plugged in the hd the light started to flicker and the drive was reading with no indication from the laptop that anything was going on.  Who's being watched?
10:10 <@dasunt> NotLarry: http://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Vs-Ninjas-Pocket-Manga/dp/0978772555
10:11 <@dasunt> Oh, and the NSA is interested in your porn collection.  :p
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10:17 < NotLarry> They should be, I store it on their servers.
10:17 <@Evilpig> my fiber connectopn is getting upgraded to 155mbs today
10:18 <@dasunt> Evilpig: At work?
10:18 < NotLarry> Sweet
10:18 <@Evilpig> yeah
10:18 <@Evilpig> of course my fiber converter only does 100mb but still
10:21 <@dasunt> WTF?  http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-2pcs-of-X-10-Appliance-Module-AM466-1-CradBus_W0QQitemZ170172501259QQihZ007QQcategoryZ50999QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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10:32 <@Dagmar> ~minilink
10:32 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/ebay.com/n3euV
10:33 <@Dagmar> That's an odd combination
10:33 <@nachoguy> http://dailyrumors.blogspot.com/2007/11/15-brilliantly-timed-sports-photos.html
10:33 <@Dagmar> ~minilink
10:33 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/blogspot.com/EmhUp.html
10:34 <@Dagmar> dasunt: Those modules are the "big device" ones that you'd use to run like a TV or big stereo system or high powered lights
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10:48 <@nachoguy> http://learning2share.blogspot.com/2007/06/fashion-ads-from-ebony-magazine-1970-76.html
10:48 <@Dagmar> ~minilink
10:48 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/blogspot.com/rnitG.html
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10:48 <@nachoguy> what book?
10:48 <@Dagmar> Mile Zero
10:49 < ware> i havent started that one yet
10:49 <@Dagmar> Freakin' associating "Big Brother" with the _reality show_ but not 1984?
10:49 <@Dagmar> Bizarre
10:49 <@Dolemite> it's still a good book
10:49 < ware> booo
10:49 < ware> im in the middle of Fight Club
10:49 <@Dagmar> HEY
10:49 <@Dagmar> WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THAT
10:49 < ware> shit.
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10:50 < arafatm> ware: Have you read survivor by paulahniuk?
10:50 < ware> yall gonna be around saturday? i think im going to give my mythtv box another go
10:50 < ware> arafatm: this is my 3rd palahniuk book
10:50 <@Dagmar> Unless my new alien overlords get here first
10:51 < ware> i read Rant and Haunted
10:51 <@Dolemite> ware : I'll be around if you want help
10:51 < ware> i want to read lullaby and choke too
10:51 <@nachoguy> _The officer delivered several "palm" and "knee strikes" to the 19-year-old's "facial area" before another officer could apply his Taser and place the man into handcuffs.
10:51 <@Dolemite> ware : However, I won't be online.  I'll be watching footabll on the big screen and drinking homebrew.
10:51 <@nachoguy> _
10:51 <@nachoguy> http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2007/nov/28/lack-mail-tila-tequila-prompts-hostility-toward-of/
10:51 <@nachoguy> heh
10:51 < ware> he apparently has a new one coming out about some pornstar that wants to break the record and fuck 600 guys or something
10:51 <@nachoguy> I love the "quotes"
10:52 <@Dagmar> ~minilink
10:52 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/kitsapsun.com/JexN2
10:52 < ware> Dolemite: maybe i should just bring it over to your house? :P
10:52 <@Dolemite> ware : If you want
10:52 <@Dagmar> How'd ya like the footage of those cops tasering that pregnant woman with a 1-year old in her arms
10:53 < ware> where was that at?
10:53 <@Dagmar> CNN
10:56 < ware> holy cow.
11:06 <@tzanger> a friend of mine says the company he works for wants to test medical rs232 ports against the spec
11:06 <@tzanger> I don't get why, but sure, I can build something to do that
11:07 <@Dagmar> _medical_ RS232?
11:07 <@tzanger> Dagmar: yep
11:07 <@Dagmar> Are these going to be installed in someone?
11:07 <@tzanger> I got an rs232 port in my rse
11:07 <@tzanger> s/rse/arse/
11:07 <@tzanger> I fart at 115200, baby
11:07 <@Dagmar> Well, there *is* all that slack space in the colon
11:08 <@Dagmar> Seems like a muhc easier place to put stuff than lopping out the appendix to make room
11:08 <@tzanger> heh
11:08 <@poiupoiu> tzanger, must be a pain in the butt to plug in a cable
11:08 <@tzanger> they make dialysis machines and apparently they have a com port
11:08 <@Dagmar> Ah
11:09 <@tzanger> why they need to verify the port against spec is odd though, I would have thought a simple pass/no pass test would suffice
11:09 <@tzanger> but maybe they have trouble driving long cable lengths or sensing laptops or osmething
11:09 <@tzanger> poiupoiu: excellent
11:09 <@Neoteric> sweet... my ssh-attach script rules
11:09 <@Dagmar> Probably the device itself is not very bright, and the thing connecting to the port is giving it specific instructions about what to do
11:09 <@Dagmar> ...or they don't have the sense to use a protocol with a CRC for communication
11:09 <@Neoteric> like all great scripts it has zero user configurable anything
11:10 <@tzanger> ssh-attach?
11:10 <@tzanger> Dagmar: correct, but again I can't think I've *ever* had marginal rs232 ports on anything that wasn't <$50
11:11 <@Dagmar> You'd be amazed at what kinda designs make it out there
11:11 <@Neoteric> tzanger: if you have ssh-agent running it attaches all your new shells (via a .bashrc thingie) to that previous ssh-agent thingie that's already running
11:11 <@tzanger> kind of like screen -dr?
11:12  * brimstone <3 ssh-agent
11:13 <@Neoteric> tzanger: I use screen -RAD but yeah
11:13 <@Neoteric> or if I'm lazy screen -x
11:14 <@tzanger> I love screen
11:14 <@tzanger> that's why I'm always on IRC :-)
11:14 <@Shadow_Phone> that goes for most people ont his channel
11:14 <@Neoteric> though most of the thingies about screen can be replaced w/ detach
11:15 <@tzanger> what I would LOVE is screen for X
11:15 <@tzanger> there is xmove but it sucks goat balls
11:15 <@Neoteric> but only screen is smart enough to completely replace minicom as my serial thingie of choice
11:15 <@tzanger> I can't run KDE through it for some reason
11:15 <@tzanger> actually it's not KDE, it's Qt not finding XIE I think
11:15 <@Neoteric> tzanger: uh... if you want something like screen for X use Xnest
11:15 <@tzanger> xnest?  explian please
11:15 <@Neoteric> but like most things X it's not the simpliest thing to use
11:16 <@Neoteric> tzanger: man Xnest
11:17 <@tzanger> ahh, I see, if I wanted to do that why wouldn't I just use xvnc?
11:17 <@tzanger> I don't want to move an entire display around, just individual apps
11:17 <@Neoteric> http://www.xs4all.nl/~matto/xnest.html
11:17 <@brimstone> USe of the Xephyr X server instread of Xnest is recommended.
11:17 <@Neoteric> tzanger: well then go out and start typing you lazy git
11:18 <@Neoteric> Xephyr... ugh
11:18 <@tzanger> yeah actually I spent a short period trying to debug this XIE thing but in the end I became busy with other stuff
11:20 <@Neoteric> hrm... Xephyr might be better cause of the "thingies" it supports... particularly it seems like it'll handle doing fancy overlays for you kiddies w/ the GL apps
11:20 <@Neoteric> but the hell do I care? I still don't think X is all that useful
11:21 <@tzanger> X is great for lots of shells :-)
11:21 <@Neoteric> other than my webbrowser + 9 xterms I got no use for it
11:21 < ware> http://www.zhangduo.com/unknowndeviceidentifier.html
11:22 <@Dagmar> They cant fucking spell 'vendor'?
11:23 <@Neoteric> Dagmar: "french"
11:24 <@Neoteric> http://regmedia.co.uk/2007/11/29/vista_error_message.jpg
11:29 <@Dagmar> Dude the website is in English
11:29 <@Dagmar> That's a lovely error dialog
11:32 <@tzanger> Neoteric: I use IM, music, email and web browsing in GUI... but I almost invariably have a single konsole app running with at least a half dozen tabs, and probably half of those are running screen
11:32 <@tzanger> I like having multiple shells up on the screen, way better than "straight" CLI
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12:08 <@nachoguy> http://bash.org/?826387
12:10 <@Evilpig> I would like to say for the record.  fuck bash and their policy of not taking #se2600 quotes
12:11 <@nachoguy> is that really a policy, or do they just usually not accep them?
12:24 <@nachoguy> http://www.maxim.com/contests/dealnews/popup.aspx?img=popup_11_29.jpg&ref=11292007
12:36 <@Evilpig> nachoguy: at this point it must be a policy cause we have given them some fucking gold
12:37 <@nachoguy> true
12:39 <@nachoguy> I know someone that is banned from having any quotes on bash.org
12:40 <@nachoguy> apparently he took over their IRC channel once, and now they don't like him
12:50 <@critch> nachoguy: that nut cracker is real, and amazon has them for $20. I think that might actually have to be on my buy list. Will be an interesting reminder of her run for prez.
13:23 <@polerin> bwahahahhahahahhahahha
13:23 <@polerin> abahhhhahhahhahahahha
13:23  * polerin is trying to not fall over
13:23 <@polerin> The EAS system in the headend just fucked up
13:24 <@polerin> Every single box on metro nashville, and possibly in mid ten, was taken over
13:24 <@polerin> as if it were an emergency broadcast
13:24 <@polerin> so everyone watchign tv in nashville right now is watching Cspan
13:24 <@polerin> and you can't change the channel
13:26 <@polerin> aww.. it's fixed now
13:26 <@SkyDog_> Fucked up, or got messed up?
13:27 <@SkyDog_> My buddy Brian here is Laughing about that one.
13:33 <@polerin> I think it's "got messed up" but no confirmation
13:35 < ware> weeeerd
13:35  * ware cockpunches SkyDog_ 
13:36 < ware> whats up bog dog
13:36 < ware> big*!
13:36 <@SkyDog_> DOh! Ya got me!
13:37  * SkyDog_ leans over hlding his nuts...
13:37  * SkyDog_ uses the crouched position to cockpunch ware
13:37 <@SkyDog_> Little fucker...
13:37 < ware> haha
13:37 <@SkyDog_> HOw's work going?
13:38 < ware> good
13:38 < ware> in cookeville today
13:38 <@SkyDog_> Cool.
13:38 <@SkyDog_> What's Donny up to?
13:38 < ware> had a sonicwall vpn issue and dude was confused about it all
13:38 < ware> im like just restart the pos and i bet it works
13:39 < ware> so an hour later he did and it worked
13:39 < ware> havent talked to him today but i sent him an email and told him to get on here
13:40 <@SkyDog_> Heh. Did the client run out of licenses?
13:42 < ware> the interface wouldnt reply pings
13:42 < ware> i dunno what happened to it
13:42 < ware> we couldnt login or anything and he was blaming AD
13:43 <@SkyDog_> AH. I am losing faith in sonicwall.
13:43 < ware> i havent had much experience with em but they seem kinda AOLish to me
13:44 <@SkyDog_> I liked them before, but now I am more interested in either fireboxes, or PfSense.
13:44  * SkyDog_ waits for dagmar flames
13:45 < ware> yeah i <3 pfsense
13:45 < ware> and dagmar
13:45 < ware> *shrug*
13:46 <@SkyDog_> I wanna go thru and do a more clearly drawn out version of Dole's preso.
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13:46 <@SkyDog_> He showed just how easy it was to setup a VPN, which was pretty nice.
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13:50 <@Evilpig> use the info I set you and make it work
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14:15 <@Dolemite> Don't talk about me like I'm not here!
14:17 <@SkyDog_> We always do.
14:22 <@brimstone> who's not here?
14:22 <@SkyDog_> What are you talking about?
14:36 <@freakn> moo
14:43  * Corydon76-vcch milks freakn :P
15:00 <@Dolemite> and on that note...
15:01 <@SkyDog_> Cue the music!
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15:09 <@seeblind> Afternoon Everybody
15:09 <@ladymerlin> heya seeblind
15:10 <@seeblind> Heya LadyM.
15:12 <@SkyDog_> Heya Seeblind.
15:13 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: w00f!
15:13 <@seeblind> whatcha know?
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15:16 <@SkyDog_> seeblind: NOt a DAMN thing today. Been reading online most of the day.
15:18 <@seeblind> Me, starting job search, know any CISSP positions?
15:19 <@Dolemite> And by "reading online" he means that he's been watching granny pr0n from guba.com.
15:21  * seeblind makes mental note to never touch SkyDog's laptop again
15:24 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Only during lunch...
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15:29 <@Dolemite> w00t.  Only 2 more performance evaluations left, and those are for tomorrow.
15:29 <@polerin> hey
15:29 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Tell Ralph you want your mid-year review.  hahahaha.
15:29 <@Corydon76-vcch> Dolemite: lucky you
15:32 <@polerin> anyone good with active X debugging/hacking?
15:32 <@Dolemite> you got the source code?
15:32 <@polerin> no
15:32 <@polerin> Comcast just switched out their self provisioning software
15:32 <@Dolemite> ha
15:32 <@polerin> the new software is installing active X controls
15:33 <@polerin> I was wanting to get someone on the path to seeing what the hell they were doing
15:33 <@polerin> because I bet it's some monitoring crap
15:33 <@polerin> which is just plain wrong :P
15:33 <@brimstone> good god
15:33 <@brimstone> you should not need Active X to setup a cable modem...
15:33 <@Dolemite> activex is compiled, so you need the source to really debug it
15:33 <@polerin> you don't.
15:33 <@polerin> debug was a poor choice of words
15:34 <@polerin> I want to know what it's doing
15:34 <@polerin> what it's hooking into
15:34 <@brimstone> strace ftw
15:34 <@polerin> on windows?
15:34 <@polerin> not to mention the fact I've got no clue how to strace an active X app
15:34 <@polerin> as well as the fact that If I publish anything on this
15:35 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Hmm. Richard seems to hang out with alot of guys. I don't really see him talking to many women...
15:35 <@polerin> I'm *going* to get fired.
15:36 <@SkyDog_> polerin: Do you know the reason, or you're just resigned to the fact that you will?
15:39 <@Corydon76-vcch> SkyDog_: Read her last two statements as one
15:41 <@SkyDog_> Um, no shit. that was sarcasm.
15:41 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : I saw him sitting in the Commons Lounge today, just sitting on the couch with his earbuds in and staring off into oblivion.
15:42 <@SkyDog_> HAHA! Yeah, he lives with those things in his ear.
15:42 <@SkyDog_> I think they feed him the life force of virgin males.
15:42 <@polerin> SkyDog_: Rephrase.  If I publish information that causes a backlash against comcast, I'll get fired.
15:43 <@seeblind> polerin: Who do you work for?
15:44 <@Dolemite> seeblind : You're not good at word problems, apparently.
15:45 <@dc0de> polerin hows things?
15:45 <@dc0de> havent' seen you around... missed you at PN
15:47 <@seeblind> Dolemite: The question was to verify that I knew the correct answer.  Guess I did.
15:49 <@polerin> :/
15:49 <@polerin> been busy
15:49 <@polerin> and broke
15:51 <@dc0de> I feel that... the busy and broke parts.
15:52 <@Dolemite> ok, time to go pick up 2.0
15:52 <@Dolemite> later, kiddies
15:53 <@SkyDog_> Enjoy.
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16:01 <@dc0de> Dolemite leaves and rattle signs off?
16:01 <@dc0de> coincidence?
16:01  * dc0de ponders this.
16:01 <@brimstone> I THINK NOT!
16:02 <@dc0de> I know there's a joke in there somewhere.
16:02 <@dc0de> sup brimstone
16:02 <@brimstone> hi dc0de
16:02 <@dc0de> you're in TX right?
16:02 <@brimstone> nope, other huntsville
16:03 <@dc0de> ahh... thinking of someone else then.
16:03 <@brimstone> coil lmaybe?
16:03 <@dc0de> nah, not coil
16:03 <@dc0de> baudburn
16:03 <@brimstone> ah
16:03 <@brimstone> thanks?
16:03 <@dc0de> heh... was wondering how the "winter storm" was in Dallas...
16:04 <@dc0de> they got some snow last week
16:04 <@brimstone> there's a winter storm?
16:04 <@brimstone> lol, low for tonight is 32, low for saturday is 50
16:05 <@dc0de> brimstone there "was" a storm...
16:07 <@brimstone> yay for perl scripts that build nagios configs based on snmp and databases :D
16:07 <@brimstone> nagios is really cool
16:07 <@dc0de> that sounds cool
16:07 <@brimstone> i should have gotten into this sooner
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16:17 < ware> stupid autofaggit updates not working
16:17 < ware> AND i get to rollback 2k3sp2, but i cant start until 6pm!
16:18 < ware> in cookeville* cause some jackass put it on earlier this week against the vendors will!
16:18 < ware> wonder how long thats going to fucking keep me here
16:20  * ware wonders...
16:28 <@slam> any asterisk guys here?
16:28 <@critch> yep
16:28 <@polerin> ore or two
16:28 <@brimstone> boo asterisk
16:28 <@brimstone> Buy Cisco
16:29 <@polerin> yeah because I can afford that brimstone
16:29 <@polerin> :P
16:29 <@slam> im having a problem with my disa
16:29 <@slam> its like it doesn't here the dtmf tones
16:29 <@brimstone> disa's kinda straight forward...
16:29 <@slam> any suggestions
16:29 <@polerin> not to slight you or anything, but have you asked in #asterisk? ;)
16:29 <@critch> slam: what interface?
16:30 <@slam> no
16:30 <@slam> iax
16:30  * polerin looks at her rcon to the home switch .. :D
16:30 <@brimstone> vpn ftw
16:30 <@critch> slam: and you are sure you answered the line?
16:31 <@slam> yes I have it set to answer ask for a password the the number to dial
16:31 <@slam> it hears the dtmf for the password but not when the dialtone starts
16:31 <@critch> yeah, I think you would do well asking #asterisk then
16:32 <@slam> ok sorry, and thanks
16:32 <@critch> nothing to be sorry about, just trying to help
16:32 <@slam> yeah thanks
16:33 <@critch> anyone familiar with bluetooth gps devices?
16:38 <@dc0de> critch yes.
16:40 <@critch> I'm looking at one to pair with my cell phone now that google maps supports accessing it
16:41 <@dc0de> www.deluoelectronics.com I think
16:41 <@dc0de> yeah, that's them... I like their bluetooth gps...
16:42 <@dc0de> http://www.deluoelectronics.com/category/13-Bluetooth_GPS
16:42 <@brimstone> critch, which cell phone?
16:42 <@critch> e62
16:42 <@brimstone> nokia eh?
16:42 <@critch> yeah
16:43 <@critch> looks like the cell tower searching that google is supposed to be able to use isn't filled in for this area yet
16:45 <@critch> I love the specs on this one
16:45 <@critch> max velocity 515m/s, I hit google math and that eqates to over 1100mph
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16:46 <@critch> yes nearly 2xsound
16:49 <@dc0de> the deluo ones I love... that's who I buy when I need something GPS related...
16:50 <@critch> I'll probably buy one tomorrow. Kind of looking forward to playing with it on the phone
16:50 <@dc0de> critch deluo is located in FL, and they fulfill quickly
16:51 <@critch> yea, same chipset on some ones from AT&T, and if the damn stores weren't sold out, I'd have one already
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17:01 <@critch> Whats up Arafat?
17:02 <@dc0de> arafat?
17:02 <@dc0de> as in Yasser?
17:02 <@critch> no, check the M. I think it is Arafat Mohamad. Sorry if I misspell
17:02 <@polerin> as in the gentleman that has been to 615 meetings :P
17:02 <@critch> Cool guy who was at PN
17:02 <@polerin> crich
17:02 <@critch> yep
17:02 <@dc0de> ahh.
17:02 <@polerin> with a t
17:02 <@dc0de> k
17:03 <@polerin> what's an appropriate tele torture for abuseive bill collectors?
17:03 <@polerin> till I get home to record something more usefully
17:03 <@critch> hmm, don't know. There is always the reverse hold
17:04 <@SkyDog_> Giving them what they want?
17:04 <@polerin> reverse hold?
17:04 <@critch> set the phone down and walk away
17:04 <@polerin> SkyDog_: they call ~30 times a day, even if you anser
17:04 <@polerin> answer
17:04 <@dc0de> reverse hold is very good.
17:04 <@polerin> see, they are already going into a pit
17:05 <@polerin> working on the home asterisk setup
17:05 <@brimstone> polerin, just drop the channel, unless you want to tie up your line for a while
17:05 <@dc0de> also, turn on call blocking for their number, or better still, if you've told them to stop calling, they're breaking the law, and you can have them fined by the fcc.
17:05 <@polerin> blacklisting their numbers, playing an appropriately annoying and frustrating message, and then sending them to voicemail 666@hell
17:05 <@polerin> dcode: not breaking the law, bill collectors.
17:06 <@dc0de> polerin you have the RIGHT to tell them to STOP calling.
17:06 <@brimstone> Congestion()
17:06 <@dc0de> and if they DON'T they're breaking the law
17:06 <@dc0de> telephone harrassment is illegal.
17:06 <@dc0de> regardless of the reason.
17:06 <@dc0de> it's also a FELONY
17:06 <@polerin> actually, they can keep calling, just not more than once a day to the point they answer
17:06 <@polerin> under the fair debt collection act
17:07 <@polerin> you can tell them not to call specific numbers, cell phones, other people, etc
17:07 <@polerin> work
17:07 <@polerin> but not entirely
17:07 <@dc0de> which they don't respect.
17:07 <@dc0de> which is why I would turn them in.
17:07 <@polerin> I don't have the engergy to persue a lawsuit
17:08 <@dc0de> polerin you don't have to sue... just go to the fcc's web and write a complaint
17:08 <@critch> okay, off to Smyrna for a minor party
17:08 <@polerin> anyway
17:09 <@critch> Or I should say mild, and not make anyone question the ages
17:09 <@dc0de> critch I wasn't thinking of you and pedophelia, but now that you mention it... hrm.
17:09 <@nachoguy> so you don't want us to question ages, eh?
17:09  * dc0de thinks critch protests too much.
17:09 <@polerin> dc0de: we've already done that with the BBB, and I don't care to follow it up.  I'm just going to blacklist them
17:10 <@dc0de> polerin cool... just giving you my methods...
17:10 <@dc0de> I also have call blocking on my cell, and vonage lines... so when I find one, I kill them.
17:10 <@polerin> dc0de: yeah I understand.
17:11 <@polerin> Cept this is more fun.
17:11 <@polerin> I get to yell and scream at them :D
17:12 <@polerin> HOME
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17:15 <@brimstone> np: Cake – Take It All Away
17:15 <@brimstone> ww, sorry
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17:44 < ware> tcstool: !!!!!!
17:47 <@sdodson> WARE!!!
17:49 <@sdodson> "he average lifespan of a "temporary, one-off" application is 4 years"
17:49 <@tcstool> ware!!!!
17:49 <@tcstool> Did they fire you yet?
17:50 <@nachoguy> sdodson, I believe it
17:50 <@sdodson> http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/database/soup/archives/joshs-rules-of-database-contracting-17253
17:50 <@sdodson> that's where i pulled the quote from
17:53 <@nachoguy> it's all true
17:54 <@brimstone> The Client has No Taste: never allow the client to choose your tools, your subcontractors or your work environment. Or at least charge them a lot extra for the privilege.
17:54 <@brimstone> if only that held true for interdepartmental contracts :(
17:55 < ware> tcstool: not yet
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18:12 <@rhia> brimstone: it does, but the internal politics are different
18:12 < zer0c00l> so
18:13 < zer0c00l> anyone from nash here?
18:13 < ware> yuh
18:13 <@rhia> zer0c00l ?   a (rather sad) "Hackers" reference?
18:13 < ware> i think more than half of us are
18:13 < ware> dont mind rhia, she'll be twice as much a bitch when you paste her email to her in /msg
18:14 < zer0c00l> lol
18:14 < zer0c00l> just for fun
18:14 < zer0c00l> cool im in murfreesboro
18:14 < zer0c00l> and just lookin for locals
18:14 <@rhia> ware: ahh, little one, i've been kind .... ask your elders in the nashvegas area
18:14 < zer0c00l> lol
18:14 < zer0c00l> nashvegas
18:14 < zer0c00l> or as the "urban" say cashville
18:15 < ware> haha
18:15 < ware> nashvegasd
18:15 <@rhia> ware:  nox was my friend - and applauded me numerous times .... you, little one, have been treated nicely
18:15 < zer0c00l> btw rhia   NOTHING about hackers is sad!
18:15 < zer0c00l> lol
18:15 < ware> <- im in the boro
18:15 < zer0c00l> sweet
18:15 <@rhia> zer0c00l: um, a decade ago, maybe
18:15 < ware> rhia: i love and respect you out of fear
18:15 < ware> i was just poking a lil fun
18:15  * rhia hugs ware 
18:15 <@rhia> ware: so, you Do learn! <g>
18:16 < ware> :D
18:16 < zer0c00l> ware<-  you go to mtsu?
18:16 < ware> technically yes, physically, not in 3 weeks
18:16 < zer0c00l> lmao
18:16 < zer0c00l> sweet
18:16 < zer0c00l> classes out next week
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18:17 < zer0c00l> what are learning (or not) learning?
18:17 < ware> yeah well i had alot of personal shit happen to me and i decided to cut school out
18:17 < zer0c00l> rly
18:17 < zer0c00l> cool
18:17 < ware> it was my first semester and i paid out of pocket for everything
18:17 <@rhia> zer0c00l: um, still... if you want to not be ... treated, er, maliciously on irc, you just *may* want to think about changing that nick
18:17 < zer0c00l> dam
18:17 < zer0c00l> i kno
18:17 < zer0c00l> just put it on there for kicks
18:17 < zer0c00l> gay handles = no friends
18:17 <@rhia> which quite a few channels are known for doing (kick)
18:18 < zer0c00l> lol
18:18 <@rhia> zer0c00l: wrong channel to mention "gay" ;)
18:18 < zer0c00l> lol
18:18 < zer0c00l> ok
18:18 < zer0c00l> sry
18:18 < zer0c00l> no offense
18:18 <@sdodson> zer0c00l: tell em to stuff it
18:18 <@rhia> unless you are and are looking for a hookup
18:18 < zer0c00l> how about...   stupid handles = no friends
18:18 < zer0c00l> nope
18:18 <@rhia> better....
18:19 < zer0c00l> ware:  what were going to study
18:19 < ware> MBA
18:19 <@rhia> ahhh, you sure about that?  we've got the hookups in here (you Are 18+, right)
18:19 < zer0c00l> cool
18:19 <@SkyDog_> Who the fuck is zer0c00l?
18:19 < zer0c00l> im studying CIS (computer info sys)
18:19 <@sdodson> MY HERO!
18:19 <@SkyDog_> You would...
18:20 < zer0c00l> me.
18:20 < zer0c00l> lol
18:20 <@rhia> SkyDog_: Hackers, Angelina Jolie's toy boy
18:20 <@SkyDog_> Hence the question.
18:20 -!- zer0c00l was kicked from #se2600 by nachoguy [kick the baby]
18:20 <@ladymerlin> lol
18:20 <@SkyDog_> rhia: I want to be her boy toy.
18:20 <@sdodson> go see beowulf in 3d imax!
18:20 <@rhia> she got boney, let her get enough meat on her bones to not permanently scare you ;)
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18:21 <@sdodson> doesn't get much better than 30' tall angelina jolie boobies with nips that stick out three feet!
18:21 < zer0c00l> wow got kicked
18:21 < zer0c00l> thanks pal
18:21 <@nachoguy> any time
18:21 < zer0c00l> lol
18:21 <@ladymerlin> gee he came back with the same nick
18:21 <@rhia> skin over hip bones does not make for more than 1/2 minute of fun before pain kicks in
18:22 <@rhia> ladymerlin: yes, yes, he did ... hmmm
18:22 < zer0c00l> why the hmmm
18:22 < zer0c00l> :)
18:22 <@nachoguy> she's contemplating kicking you
18:22 <@rhia> sdodson: ain't CGI wunderful?
18:22 < zer0c00l> oh
18:22 < zer0c00l> that sounds painful... emotionally
18:22 <@rhia> nachoguy: I don't kick online ... I wait till I have the satisfaction in person ;)
18:23 < zer0c00l> wow, taser anyone?
18:23 <@SkyDog_> Which is why we treat Rhia with lots of respect.
18:23 < ware> zer0c00l: hey man i think you would be more at home in #ware
18:23 < ware> :D
18:23 <@rhia> nachoguy: but i was contemplating the wisdom of someone who continues to use a lame nick in a hacker channel
18:23 < ware> its where teh c00l ppl k1ck 1t
18:23 <@SkyDog_> zer0c00l: So, how'd you find us? What brought you here?
18:23  * rhia hugs SkyDog_  ... you Do luvs me!
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18:24 <@nachoguy> which I guess makes me feel a little better about you not coming up to pn0x0b.  I would have liked to have met you, but I really didn't need any kicks.
18:24 <@SkyDog_> rhia: In more ways than one.
18:24 <@rhia> SkyDog_: hehe
18:24 < ware> lol dammit!
18:24 < ware> he done left
18:24 < ware> assholes
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18:24 < ware> lol there he is
18:24 <@SkyDog_> The cereal for kids?
18:25 < kix> indeed
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18:25 <@SkyDog_> Bereft of original thought, are we?
18:25 <@nachoguy> hey skydog, lay off him, eh?  he stays crunchy in milk after all
18:25 < kix> not really college kills braincells
18:25 < ware> kix: join #ware
18:26 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, ware wants to cyber with you.
18:26 <@SkyDog_> Make sure you swallow.
18:26 < kix> akward.
18:26 <@nachoguy> only if you aren't used to it
18:27 < kix> hmm why? are you offering lessons?
18:27 <@nachoguy> I was referring to the taunts, ifyou want lessons, I'm sure Cory will be happy to teach
18:27 < ware> SkyDog_: dont be jealous
18:27 <@sdodson> DO NOT TAKE THE ORAL EXAM!
18:27 < ware> ill be over there 2moro night
18:28 <@SkyDog_> kix: Ok, back to my original missive, how'd you get here?
18:28 <@nachoguy> sdoson with the words of wisdom
18:28 < kix> just searching around
18:28  * SkyDog_ cockpunches ware
18:28 < kix> found nashville 2600
18:28 < ware> oh baby, just like that
18:28 <@rhia> nachoguy: stays crunchy in milk? he's from Moloch?
18:28 < kix> then saw the goup
18:28 < kix> group
18:29 <@SkyDog_> ware: I'll make sure and wear a rubber, 'cause you're the bitch...
18:29 <@rhia> kix: we're actually pretty laid back, but ... 1st impressions really do mean a lot
18:29 <@SkyDog_> kix: Yeah, we have a tendency to mess with the new people.
18:29 <@SkyDog_> If you stick around long enough, we'll just accept you. Ask sdodson.
18:30 <@SkyDog_> ask him...
18:30 <@SkyDog_> NOW>
18:30 <@nachoguy> Skydog means everyone, we don't ever stop messing with people, they just get used to it
18:30 <@rhia> kix: age? (rhia be ancient, most others in here range from ware to old & wise)
18:30 <@sdodson> don't believe their lies
18:30 <@SkyDog_> C'mon!
18:30 < ware> /msg kix be like "FUX U GUZ 1m 00b3r 3l33t!!1!!)!_@#"
18:30 <@rhia> sdodson: ah, c'mon, we *almost* accept you now
18:31 < kix> lol
18:31 < kix> well
18:31 <@rhia> ware: one thing we count on, you never fail to sink to the occasion
18:31 < ware> :D
18:31 < kix> 20
18:31 < kix> m
18:31 < kix> boro
18:31 < kix> there
18:31 <@rhia> ware: you knows you lubbers me
18:32 <@rhia> nachoguy: after a while, the skin gets thick enough that it's not messing with people, it's checking for life signs ;)
18:33 <@dc0de> rhia is a sexy goddess... don't believe her...
18:33 <@dc0de> and nobody picks on me... :P
18:33 <@SkyDog_> She is HOT!
18:33 <@dc0de> damn straight she's hot...
18:33  * SkyDog_ runs from the dragon...
18:33  * rhia is ancient & decrepit, but thanks to you both for the ego tickle 
18:34 <@dc0de> 1. she's a woman, 2. she's very intelligent.  woman + brains == HAWT!
18:34 < ware>  |@ware
18:34 < ware> 18:31 |@coil      |@ladymerlin |@Scotchick |@SkyDog_      |@wontonjoe
18:34 < ware> 18:31 |@I-MOD     |@ohk        |@sdodson   |@timoguin
18:34 < ware> whoops
18:34 <@Shadow_Phone> dumbass
18:34 <@dc0de> and you would know
18:34 <@rhia> SkyDog_: Drag0n is on his way home - you've got 15 minutes of flattery left ;)
18:34 <@ladymerlin> lol
18:34 <@nachoguy> heh
18:34 <@SkyDog_> Does he use a screen session?
18:35 <@rhia> dc0de: pick, pick, pick ... feel better?
18:35 <@dc0de> SkyDog_ I'm not afraid of Drag0n... he knows he has a hot woman... and should be proud that we also notice...
18:35 <@nachoguy> 14.5 minutes for flattery, .5 minutes to start finding a fireproof, clawproof fort to live out the rest of your days
18:35 <@sdodson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO93C5VH8Fg
18:35 <@rhia> SkyDog_: always, but... you is speshul ;)
18:35 <@dc0de> sdodson why?
18:35 <@rhia> nachoguy: yeah, or he'll pun the channel to death
18:36 <@SkyDog_> We secretly think about her while gazing out the window...
18:36 <@rhia> Drag0n == The PUNisher
18:36 <@dc0de> heh
18:36 <@sdodson> dc0de: why what?
18:36 <@dc0de> why babies eating lemons?
18:36 <@rhia> SkyDog_: nice try, but it takes much more to make this old gal to blush
18:36 <@sdodson> i dunno, why not? it's cute
18:36 <@dc0de> oh...
18:36 <@dc0de> ok
18:37 <@rhia> shhhh... i think we've scared kix off ....
18:37 <@dc0de> there was some ugly babies to start out.. and that was it... after 8 seconds, I hit the dump button.
18:37 <@SkyDog_> rhia: While fondling a shirt we stole from her dresser when she wasn't home...
18:38 <@rhia> dc0de: danke ... some babies really are ugly, despite what most femnazi mags try to sell
18:38 <@dc0de> SkyDog_; are you telling us that you think that restraining orders are just another way to say "I love you"?
18:38 <@dc0de> rhia I'm a father of four... I've seen some ugly babies....
18:38 <@SkyDog_> dc0de: In a way.
18:38 <@rhia> SkyDog_: fondling sweaty t-shirts does that for you? ... the things you learn ...
18:39 <@dc0de> SkyDog_ baaaaa means NO!
18:39 <@SkyDog_> rhia: No, YOUR sweaty t-shirt...
18:39 <@rhia> dc0de: i've only had two, but the youngest i'd trade 3 for 1
18:39 <@dc0de> I wanna sell one of mine... is that legal?
18:39 <@rhia> SkyDog_: so... this would not be a good time to admit i hate wearing bras, right?
18:40 <@ladymerlin> hehehe
18:40 <@rhia> dc0de: if it is, lemme know... got a good one for the market
18:40  * rhia hugs ladymerlin 
18:40 <@SkyDog_> rhia: So do i.
18:41 <@rhia> SkyDog_: but, but... oh ... shhh... forgot ... nevermind
18:41  * rhia whistles innocently
18:41 <@rhia> there are 2 things wrong with taht
18:41 <@rhia> that
18:41 <@rhia> 1. rhia can't whistle
18:41 <@dc0de> rhia I don't like you wearing a bra either... and while we're at it, the jeans, pants and panties have to go too...
18:41 <@SkyDog_> rhia: Can I sit and watch you TRY to whistle?
18:41 <@rhia> dc0de: what? no romance? hehe
18:42 <@dc0de> rhia there can be romance when you're naked... :D
18:42 <@rhia> SkyDog_: the only flute i play is a Drag0n's ;)
18:42 <@dc0de> rhia i didn't know he was into Jethro Tull....
18:43 <@rhia> dc0de: oh, there are tombs of what this channel doesn't konw - - & i prefer it that way
18:43 <@SkyDog_> rhia: We have imaginations...
18:43 <@dc0de> rhia agreed.... I have a 'few' things that ppl don't know about me either...
18:43 <@rhia> SkyDog_: as hackers, i would hope sop
18:43 <@rhia> so
18:44 <@dc0de> back to the business at hand... rhia is hot
18:44 <@rhia> and.... time to go make swedish meatballs (as in the type the swedes eat, with ligonberry sauce et al)
18:44 <@brimstone> pics or shens
18:44  * rhia waves good night
18:44 <@dc0de> rhia damn.. that sounds nice... what time is dinner/
18:44 <@dc0de> ?
18:44 <@rhia> brimstone: pics exist ;)
18:45 <@SkyDog_> Nite rhia.
18:45 <@rhia> dc0de: 45 minutes - catch a flight ;)
18:45 <@dc0de> l8r rhia
18:45  * brimstone picks up the phone
18:45 <@rhia> nite all
18:45  * brimstone dials S H E N S
18:45 <@sdodson> shit my phone is ringing
18:45 <@SkyDog_> answer it and it will stop!
18:46 <@ladymerlin> i have a coworker who dosent understand that concept
18:46 <@sdodson> lol it's brimstone!
18:46 <@brimstone> omg hi sdodson!
18:46 <@sdodson> hai2u!
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18:52 < tcstool_> ware:  still there?
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18:53 < ware> yueah
18:53 < ware> m$ confirmed
18:53 <@tcstool> Ohhh man
18:53 <@tcstool> that is so so so so so awesome
18:53 <@nachoguy> ?
18:54 < ware> haha yeah
18:54 <@nachoguy> what happened?
18:57 <@tcstool> Ware's employer screwed something up royally
18:57 <@sdodson> tcstool: you don't work there anymore?
18:57 < ware> hey i was not involved with this project
18:58 < ware> until they realized they fucked it up and called me
18:59 <@tcstool> I do not
19:00 <@tcstool> Been gone a month praise the lord
19:01 <@sdodson> ware is the cleanup guy
19:02 < ware> ^5
19:04 <@sdodson> 20:03 < CowbertW> argh I hate how IOS acl rules are written fucking backwards
19:04 <@sdodson> 20:04 < Lefty> reverse cowgirl?
19:07 <@tcstool> ware is the new bitch
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19:18 <@dc0de> heh... watching "Are you smarter than a 5th grader".
19:18 <@dc0de> a dork and his fraternity
19:18 <@nachoguy> sdoson, more like fall guy
19:22 <@sdodson> if they're one in the same then you're great.
19:25 <@sdodson> leet, delta RPMs turn a 21M Firefoox 2.0.10 upgrade into a 900k download
19:26 <@brimstone> delta rpms sound like they would get big after a while
19:27 <@sdodson> isn't that better than starting out big anyway?
19:32 <@sdodson> brimstone: Appears that it doesn't get worse over time
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20:07 <@dasunt> Very NSFW:  http://www.springnicht.com/tattoos/albums/userpics/10002/normal_passaroundgirl.jpg
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20:28 <@sasquatc4> mmm, crysis pretty
20:38 <@sdodson> internationally known as a keebler elf!
20:38 <@sdodson> that chick looks familiar
20:57 <@dc0de> ~minilink
20:57 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/springnicht.com/enTNl.jpg
20:59 <@sdodson> dc0de: which terminal do you use?
21:24 <@Dementia> Hi kids
21:29 <@brimstone> xterm4life
21:39  * ladymerlin pokes SkyDog_ 
21:39 <@SkyDog_> :P
21:39 <@SkyDog_> Somethin smells good...
21:39 <@ladymerlin> yeah it does
21:40 <@SkyDog_> I don
21:40 <@SkyDog_> I don't feel like getting off the couch to check on it though... :)
21:40 <@ladymerlin> :P
21:40 <@SkyDog_> ware: Did you get the client taken care of?
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21:42 <@SkyDog_> Guess not.
21:43  * sdodson wonders how old Dementia is
21:43 <@Dementia> 32. for now.
21:44 <@Dementia> now get off my lawn!
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21:47 <@dasunt> Er.
21:47 <@sdodson> Dementia: you ever get that php stuff figured out?
21:48 <@dasunt> Okay, digging around looking for some X10 information.
21:48 <@Dementia> sdodson: yeah, I finally got the sysadmin to compile it from source. Thanks
21:48 <@dasunt> (The power relay stuff, not the creepy sex offender webcams).
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21:48 <@sdodson> don't think i was any help, sorry
21:48 <@dasunt> This one guy decided to wire his furnace up by using a module that triggers a relay to close the circuit that normally goes to a thermostat.
21:49 <@dasunt> And he warns that this could be dangerous, since if the module is accidentally triggered and stays on, it may cause the furnace to overheat.
21:49 <@dasunt> Why wouldn't you just put a thermostat in series set to some rediculously high temperature (85 tempF or something) to prevent that from happening?
21:50 <@someninjamaster> evening all
21:52 <@SkyDog_> Heya someninjamaster.
21:53 <@someninjamaster> sup skydog
21:53 <@SkyDog_> nada.
21:53 <@freakn> moo
21:53 <@SkyDog_> Sitting on the couch, waiting for some butternut squash to finish cooking.
21:53 <@dasunt> Gah.
21:53 <@dasunt> I WANT A TOILET!
21:53 <@dasunt> Okay, gas station time.
21:53 <@dasunt> Just to take a dump.
21:53 <@dasunt> Fucking tiling.
21:55 <@SkyDog_> Um. Ok. You're sharing waay to much. even for this group.
21:55 <@someninjamaster> i think we are 5 days out from being able to start work on the new server room/office
21:55 <@someninjamaster> at work
21:56 <@dasunt> ~weather 55330
21:56 <+MxZBot> It's Scattered Clouds in SE Elk River, Elk River, Minnesota. It's 16.9 F (-22 M, -8 C, 265 K).  Wind to the West at 3.1Mph/5.0Kph.
21:56 <@dasunt> KILL ME.
21:56  * SkyDog_ kills dasunt and hides the body.
22:00 <@Dementia> That was easy.
22:01 <@freakn> dasunt, are you driving and texting?
22:02 <@SkyDog_> at this point, he'll be texting and shitting...
22:08 <@someninjamaster> skydog_: hows the vandy job going
22:09 <@dasunt> freakn: No, at home again.
22:09 <@dasunt> freakn: My bathroom is torn up because they are laying down tile.
22:13 <@sdodson> Is that what you kids are calling it these days?
22:14 <@freakn> www.atltransit.com is an awesome idea for a site
22:15 <@freakn> I am all like ... wowed up
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22:21 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: Rocking man.
22:21 <@someninjamaster> cool
22:21 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, Nice office, MBP 15" with a 23" monitor, and lotsa toys.
22:22 <@SkyDog_> I work a few buildings over from Dole.
22:24 <@SkyDog_> Oh, earlier today, the video guy handed me a Sony DV camcorder one revision earlier than mine. Someone broke the microphone jack, so they were gonna toss it. More cameras to play with!
22:49 <@dasunt> SkyDog_: Is the microphone jake repairable?
22:54 <@dasunt> "The Cetans are indifferent to the fate of humanity but the
22:54 <@dasunt> partnership between flowering plants and insects intrigues them.
22:54 <@dasunt> They also have a tremendous fondness for slugs, which they find
22:54 <@dasunt> cute.
22:54 <@dasunt> "
22:54 <@dasunt> LOL!
22:55 <@SkyDog_> dasunt: Yeah, I think I can fix it without much trouble.
22:55 <@SkyDog_> In fact, I was about to start workingon it.
22:59 <@someninjamaster> skydog are you doing dual monitor on your mbp
23:33 <@juice> hi
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23:47 <@someninjamaster> sup juice
23:47 <@juice> not much
23:47 <@juice> I need to find a job
23:47 <@juice> I graduate college the 14th of dec.
23:48 <@juice> I'd like to move out of missouri
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