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01:43 <@JimShoe> lame
02:24 < ware> ?!
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06:58 <@SkyDog_> morning.
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08:08 <+coil> no
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11:39 <@brimstone> anyone heard of http://www.wiikey.cn/ working?
11:44 <@sdodson> Hmmm, dell hosting a GIT tree for efiboot manager.  I wonder what that means.
11:56 <@dc0de> afternoon all.
11:56 <@dc0de> u
11:58 <@brimstone> sdodson, iiiiiiiinnnnteresting
11:59 <@sdodson> brimstone: http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/11/13/33774.aspx
12:00 <@brimstone> sdodson, i see your link and raise you: http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Wiki_Main_Page
12:13 -!- brimstone changed the topic of #se2600 to: < SPACE FOR RENT > $3.50 OBO
12:13 <@sdodson> what am I looking at there brimstone?
12:13 <@brimstone> just dell's linux wiki
12:13 <@brimstone> found that the other day
12:16 <@sdodson> ohkay!@
12:16 <@dc0de> awesome! Comcast has a Jenna James channel!
12:17 <@dc0de> 548 - ClubJen
12:17 <@sdodson> Isn't she like 90 now?
12:18 <@dc0de> sdodson dunno...
12:18 <@dc0de> I don't know the porn stars
12:20 <@sdodson> lies
12:20 <@dc0de> ok... whatever...
12:20 <@dc0de> I wish I had a collection...
12:22 <@sdodson> of lies?
12:22 <@dc0de> of pr0n
12:24 <@sdodson> me too, where do you find that stuff?
12:28 <@Corydon76-dig> dc0de: I'll bet your son will wish you had a collection, too, about when he hits puberty
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12:57 < ware> hax
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13:20 <@dc0de> Corydon76-dig you're probably right...
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14:03 <@tzanger> hmm
14:03 <@tzanger> I wonder why knetworkmanager is taking up so much memory
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14:42 <@sdodson> tzanger: knm 0.7?
14:48 <@tzanger> sd	good question
14:48 <@tzanger> Qt: 3.3.7
14:48 <@tzanger> KDE: 3.5.7
14:48 <@tzanger> KNetworkManager: er: 0.1
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15:28 <@Shadow404> ware: ping
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16:17 <@dc0de> where does cups print pdf files?
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16:21 <@dc0de> nm... found it.
16:21 <@sdodson> where is it?
16:22 <@dc0de> it was put in my /home/<user>/PDF/ dir
16:22 <@dc0de> as _stdin_.pdf
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16:32 <@dc0de> grrr. brb
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16:50 <@shadow_420> grr your mom
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16:59 <@dc0de> grrr your wife
17:01 <@shadow_420> not yet.......
17:01 <@shadow_420> our 1 year dating anniversary is thanksgivig
17:04 <@sdodson> when you getting married?
17:09 <@shadow_420> i dunno
17:09 <@shadow_420> when the time is right
17:09 <@shadow_420> thats up to me and scotchick
17:10 <@sdodson> i wasn't trying to influence it :)
17:10 <@shadow_420> heh, most of channel is
17:21 <@sdodson> they want you to or not to?
17:24 <@shadow_420> well, too
17:24 <@shadow_420> at least i hope
17:24 <@shadow_420> but who knows, considering the populus of se2600
17:24 <@Evilpig> I tihnk more people are hoping for a cataclysm that ends both of your gene lines but that is an alternate theory
17:25 <@shadow_420> heh
17:25 <@shadow_420> thx pig
17:25 <@shadow_420> i feel so secure now
17:25 <@shadow_420> calling
17:25 <@Evilpig> anytime
17:25 <@shadow_420> ok
17:25 <@shadow_420> now
17:25 <@shadow_420> pick up
17:26 <@shadow_420> fuker
17:26 <@Evilpig> phone isn't ringing.  dunno what you are talking about
17:27 <@shadow_420> whos evilcorp?
17:27 <@shadow_420> called him by acciden
17:27 <@Evilpig> now it's ringing
17:28 <@shadow_420> and you fail to answer
17:28 <@Evilpig> I accel at the ignore button.  playing wow.  what you need?
17:28 <@Evilpig> hrmm excel?
17:28 <@shadow_420> just a geeral bitch session
17:29 <@Evilpig> i'm not good at those
17:29 <@Evilpig> unless drunk
17:29 <@Evilpig> then I am pro
17:30 <@shadow_420> the get drunk
17:31 <@shadow_420> i am
17:31 <@shadow_420> heh, we were at pn
17:31 <@shadow_420> thinks to your canteen of bourbon
17:31 <@Evilpig> I wasn't drunk then I was fucking trashed
17:32 <@shadow_420> then answer
17:37 <@Evilpig> bah, irc, cell phone, ventrilo and wow are hand to juggle
17:38 <@shadow_420> quite whining
17:40 <@dc0de> quite indeed.
17:42 <@shadow_420> drunk Evilpig, = lost cause
17:43 <@shadow_420> drunk shadow_420 + Evilpig playing wow = impossible
17:43 <@Mirage> shadow_420 == totally lost cause
17:43 <@shadow_420> Mirage: in bed!!!!
17:47 <@rhia> all you guys suck   ...   (in bed) <g>
17:48 <@rhia> iow, kill the "in bed"  10 yr old funny done by 13 yr olds
17:48 <@shadow_420> hey, i told i *lick* good i bed
17:50 <@shadow_420> man i,m drunk
17:50 <@shadow_420> i gotta work tomorrow
17:50 <@shadow_420> thank god tuesday is telework
17:52 <@rhia> this channel needs for peolple to print out multiple signs, to plaster on the fridge, phones, & monitors:  "3 drinks? More? NO PHONE, NO ONILINE!"
17:52 <@rhia> jebus, peoples, it's not astrophysics
17:53 -!- wizardPC changed the topic of #se2600 to: <@rhia> this channel needs for peolple to print out multiple signs, to plaster on the fridge, phones, & monitors:  "3 drinks? More? NO PHONE, NO ONILINE!"
17:58 -!- rhia changed the topic of #se2600 to: this channel needs for people to print out multiple signs, to plaster on the fridge, phones, & monitors:  "3 drinks? More? NO PHONE, NO ONLINE!"
18:04 <@dc0de> evening rhia
18:04 <@dc0de> and excellent point.
18:04 <@dc0de> shadow_420 there is Monday in the way
18:06 <@wizardPC> I just had a ron paul supporter say that it was okay to take money from neonazis, but not okay to take money from bankers
18:07 <@dc0de> who is ron paul?
18:08 <@Mirage> that a trick question?
18:08 <@Mirage> besides..your on the internet..look it up
18:08 <@dc0de> Mirage no, I've seen hippy looking freaks with sheets telling me to vote for Ron Paul, but the election isn't until next year.
18:09 <@wizardPC> its quite an eclectic mix of supporters he's got
18:09 <@dc0de> if it's a political figure, I'm choosing to abstain from all political bullshit until about october of next year.
18:09 <@dc0de> until then, it's all bullshit.
18:10 <@wizardPC> icanhasoctobersuprise?
18:10 <@dc0de> wizardPC sure, just join me in abstaining from politics until then.
18:10 <@dc0de> it's easy, and avoids quite a bit of annoying discussion
18:12 <@dc0de> and besides, it's not like we really have that much of a choice of our next leader... where is the farmer from Iowa that just wants the country to be better?
18:12 <@dc0de> that's who I want to vote for, someone with no political agenda
18:19 <@wizardPC> well, the peanut farmer from Georgia did a bang-up job
18:34 <+coil> hi
18:34 <@dc0de> wizardPC in retrospect, he's the best democrat the country had seen for 50 years
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18:38 <@polerin> feh.
18:38 <+coil> hi polerin
18:39 <@polerin> stupid question
18:39 <+coil> ask
18:39 <+coil> 1
18:39 <@polerin> loading a module at boot time
18:39 <@polerin> with params
18:39 <@polerin> what's the right file...
18:39 <@polerin> /etc/modules
18:39 <@polerin> ?
18:40 <@polerin> stupid freaking lag making it hard to do
18:41 <@sdodson> normally /etc/modprobe.conf
18:41 <@sdodson> Is it necessary to mount the root file system?
18:43 <@polerin> neh i doubt it
18:44 <@polerin> mmph.  no /etc/modprobe.conf
18:44 <@polerin> debian btw
19:00 <@shadow_420> overseas phone calls sucks
19:00 <@shadow_420> hate time zones
19:00 <@shadow_420> farrrrrrk
19:00 -!- shadow_420 is now known as Shadow404
19:03 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: try /etc/modprobe.d/
19:03 <@Shadow404> dc0de: why>
19:04 <@Corydon76-dig> polerin: if you really want boot time, no parameters, /etc/modules is the file
19:04 <@Shadow404> i like ron pauls views
19:04 <@Shadow404> hes o
19:04 <@Shadow404> *ok
19:04 <@Shadow404> tell me why i should think diffrently?
19:04 <@Shadow404> hes against big brother watching over everyone, judical oversight ++++++
19:05 <@Shadow404> why is ron paul bad????
19:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Maybe Ross Perot syndrome?
19:05 <@Shadow404> welll, tell me one good reason why i shouldnt vote ron paul?
19:06 <@Shadow404> im +18 by 6 years, so tell me why i shouldnt vote ron paul
19:06 <@Corydon76-dig> In the primary or in the general?
19:06 <@Shadow404> im open ears
19:06 <@sdodson> politics piss me off, there's no reason people should be burning $10M/month on such stupid crap
19:06 <@Shadow404> both
19:06 <@Shadow404> sdodson, Corydon76-dig: im pro ron paul
19:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, if you're going to vote Republican, I'd prefer if you vote for Ron Paul in the general
19:06 <@Shadow404> tell me why i shouldnt be?
19:07 <@sdodson> We should have spending caps on campaigns.
19:07 <@Shadow404> ok, caps aside
19:07 <@Corydon76-dig> If he splits the Republican vote, Hillary will be the next president
19:07 <@Shadow404> why shouldnt  i vote ron paul>
19:07 <@Shadow404> beyond a splt?
19:07 <@Shadow404> tell me something negatiive?
19:07 <@sdodson> This is looking like it's going to yet another election where you have to vote against someone rather than for someone
19:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: that's why you SHOULD
19:07 <@sdodson> Shadow404: he's short
19:07 <@Shadow404> should wh>
19:08 <@Shadow404> sdodson: hes for all the right things?
19:08 <@Shadow404> anti patriot act
19:08 <@Shadow404> anti non-judicial oversight
19:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: because Hillary is a better choice than all of the other Republican choices
19:08 <@Shadow404> Corydon76-dig: now you should no better>
19:08 <@Shadow404> a woman for commander in chief
19:08 <@Shadow404> ba hahahahaha
19:08 <@Shadow404> lawl
19:09 <@Corydon76-dig> and if you think Hillary is a liberal, you've been brainwashed by Fox News
19:09 <@Shadow404> i dont watch fox
19:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Hillary is a moderate
19:09 <@Shadow404> i banned it
19:09 <+coil> moderate
19:09 <@Shadow404> hillary is a leecher
19:09 <+coil> ???
19:09 <@Shadow404> off the old prez
19:10 <@Corydon76-dig> She's a good portion of what made his presidency good
19:10 <@Shadow404> only reason hillary is where she is is because clinton
19:10 <@Shadow404> like the cheating?
19:10 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't believe that
19:10 <@Shadow404> blowjobs?
19:10 <@Shadow404> and lewinksky?
19:10 <@Shadow404> yeah, thats good?
19:10 <@Shadow404> good valuesand all
19:10 <@Corydon76-dig> How about jobs, good economy?
19:10 <@Shadow404> man, such a patriot
19:10 <@Shadow404> yeah, he did good for the middle class
19:11 <@Shadow404> that is the majorityt
19:11 <@Shadow404> but what about the lower and upper
19:11 <@Corydon76-dig> I could give a shit how much sex the president has or doesn't have
19:11 <@Shadow404> now ones perfect>
19:11 <@Shadow404> but lets think everything else
19:11 <@Shadow404> bush sr. he was a prez
19:11 <@Shadow404> the last of his kind
19:11 <@sdodson> I don't think Hillary has any real experience
19:11 <@Shadow404> clinton prosepers from his expertise
19:12 <@Shadow404> jr, fucked up eveything from their n
19:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Bush Sr wasn't a good politician.  He promised exactly what he could not and got cooked in 92 because of it
19:12 <@Shadow404> *on
19:12 <@Shadow404> sr. was awesome
19:12 <@Shadow404> he set the economy for a boom that happened
19:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Bush Sr was a very smart man and an excellent administrator
19:12 <@Shadow404> and clinton prsoseperrd
19:12 <@Corydon76-dig> but he sucked at politics
19:12 <@Shadow404> from it
19:12 <@Shadow404> if sr. would of gone to the next term
19:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Bill Clinton was good all the way around
19:12 <@sdodson> your lack of spelling skills makes this conversation difficult
19:12 <@Shadow404> he would of been the next jfk
19:13 <+coil> lol
19:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Clinton WAS the next JFK
19:13 <@Shadow404> ok, 3 way call,. then?
19:13 <@Shadow404> fight it out, i record *wave
19:13 <@Shadow404> pm digits
19:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow404: sure, I'd go for a 3way with you
19:14 <@Shadow404> politics call onlu
19:14 <@Shadow404> *only
19:14 <@Shadow404> me drunk
19:14 <@Corydon76-dig> and pliable
19:14 <@Shadow404> call only, i repeat
19:14 <@Corydon76-dig> You're no fun
19:15 <@Shadow404> agreed
19:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Don't knock it till you've tried it
19:15 <@Corydon76-dig> I hear gay men give the best blowjobs
19:15 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm anxious to try it
19:15 <@Shadow404> heh, ill stick with tied and true
19:15 <@Shadow404> thx, but no thx
19:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Once again, a Freudian slip
19:16 <@Shadow404> nooo
19:16 <@Shadow404> ill stick with tried methods
19:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Maybe you should ask Claire, before denying her the pleasure
19:19 <@Shadow404> first of, "clare" spell it right right first of all
19:19 <@Shadow404> and well, none of yo business
19:20 <@Corydon76-dig> You're one to be criticizing about spelling
19:21 <@Shadow404> a name is a name
19:21 <@Shadow404> a word is a ord
19:21 <@Shadow404> *word
19:21 <@Shadow404> am i not right?
19:22 <@sasquatc4> anyone got any videogame import sites they recommend now that liksang is gone?
19:22 <@sasquatc4> and not playasia, already checked there and they dont have what i need
19:23 <@Shadow404> what are you looking for?
19:23 <@Shadow404> old or new?
19:23 <@Shadow404> i can get you old old
19:23 <@Shadow404> *aka lok, legends of kesmai old
19:24 <@sasquatc4> lookin for a dreamcast vga box, and ive found it on a few sites now but they are sorta hokey sites that I dont trust to much
19:24 <@Shadow404> emulator?
19:24 <@Shadow404> or roms?
19:24 <@sasquatc4> naw, its a piece of hardware, does vga output for a dreamcast
19:25 <+coil> ya ya
19:25 <@Shadow404> coil: ga
19:25 <+coil> ga
19:26 <+coil> sasquatc4:
19:26 <+coil> i have one
19:26 <+coil> somewhere....
19:26 <@Shadow404> then share
19:26 <@Shadow404> asshat
19:26 <@sasquatc4> you remmember where you got it from?
19:26 <@Shadow404> *notice how drunken shadow does no reach for kick ban button*
19:26 <+coil> if i find it, you can have it for a lil money
19:27 <@sdodson> You know, Shadow404 is just as annoying as ware when he's drunk.
19:27 <@I-MOD> we know
19:27 <+coil> i bought it from a firend a while ago
19:27 <+coil> fire end* sorry
19:27 <@Shadow404> sdodson: mimus kick ban
19:29 <@Shadow404> heh
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19:36 < Synx_hm> yo yo
19:36 < Synx_hm> anyone with verizon?
19:36 <@Shadow404> no, tmobile
19:36 <@Shadow404> whats it to you?
19:37 < Synx_hm> i just ported from tmobile to verizon and im trying to figure out all this scam you with stupid download shit
19:37 <@Shadow404> let me guess
19:37 <@Shadow404> charge per download?
19:37 <@Shadow404> like $2 bucks min?
19:37 < Synx_hm> i think not only per dl but a subscription fee
19:37 <@Shadow404> lawl, you got gipped
19:38 <@Shadow404> ask channel before changing
19:38 < Synx_hm> like charge to dl, then carge per month to keep playing fucking games
19:38 <@Shadow404> heh
19:38 < Synx_hm> no actually i knwe what i was getting into
19:38 <@Shadow404> and you did anyway?
19:38 < Synx_hm> 'tmobile doesn't have EDGE here, and im on verison EvDO right now on my PC without paying for teathering
19:38 <@Shadow404> ok, good arguement
19:38 < Synx_hm> and tmobile had horrible coverage here :(  i loved their service in LA though
19:38 <@Shadow404> coverage is a good defense
19:39 <@Shadow404> georgia rocks
19:39 < Synx_hm> ya and EvDO ive seen up to 1.5mb
19:39 <@Shadow404> in the last year
19:39 <@Shadow404> gprs is about 800kb
19:39 <@Shadow404> and rising each month
19:39 < Synx_hm> nice
19:39 < Synx_hm> thats impressive
19:39 <@Shadow404> aye, for 30127 it is
19:39 <@Shadow404> thats way out htere
19:39 <@Shadow404> anyway
19:40 <@Shadow404> verizon is all about fees
19:40 <@Shadow404> thats how they make money
19:40 <@Shadow404> tmobile is more about plans
19:40 < Synx_hm> ya id prefer a gsm carrier but i dont have cable or dsl yet at my pad
19:40 <@Shadow404> cell companies are weird
19:40 < Synx_hm> so im stuck scamming VZW hehe
19:40 <@Shadow404> trying to find scotchick a 3rd party irc client
19:41 <@Shadow404> for her blackberry curce
19:41 <@Shadow404> so new, cant find a working solution
19:41 <@Shadow404> ssh or irc client no go
19:41 < Synx_hm> you using the proxy to get free teathering and what not?
19:42 <@Shadow404> yep, that would work
19:42 <@Shadow404> but im talking on device
19:42 <@Shadow404> since she doesnt always have a laptop with her
19:42 < Synx_hm> ya
19:42 < Synx_hm> the proxy was hit and miss for me with ssh and irc
19:43 <@Shadow404> proxies always are pretty flakey, unless you can trust the source
19:43 < Synx_hm> brb
19:46 < Synx_hm> ugh what a horrid weekend
19:46 <@Shadow404> hows that>
19:46 <@Shadow404> ?
19:47 < Synx_hm> figured id do some simple car work yesterday because im driving 9hrs on wed to see some fam
19:47 < Synx_hm> well my buddy rode over on his gsxr and we both got to working... he was doing oil
19:47 < Synx_hm> well 30min into the work instead of removing his drain bolt he broke a chuck off his oil pan
19:47 < Synx_hm> DOH
19:48 < Synx_hm> so i show him what he needs to remove to take off the pan so we can fix it when he orders a new one, after that i go back to my brake bleed job...
19:48 < Synx_hm> 10min later my pressure bleeding system decideds it doesn't want to keep the resevoir full and i drain all the fluid out of my master cyl!
19:49 <@Shadow404> Synx_hm: i bought an auo-bleeder for $10 bucks
19:49 < Synx_hm> so im fucking pissed, we both have borked vehicles and no way to get parts
19:49 <@Shadow404> thing is a god sent for car and bike
19:49 < Synx_hm> ya ive got a motive power bleeder, its great for one man brake jobs and does a damn good job too
19:50 < Synx_hm> i ended up draining the master cyl 2 more times this morning, because id get the damn thing pressurized and go to bleed the master cyl and i couldn't get the main hard lines treaded back in before id drain back out haha
19:50 < Synx_hm> oh well i got it done finally, but broke a bolt on my exhaust mani while i was putting on some new stuff waiting for someone to pick me up to get more brake fluid
19:50 < Synx_hm> haha
19:51 < Synx_hm> had to have someone else come and pick me up again to get another part :(
19:51 < Synx_hm> so its all togather, but i didn't really anything i wanted to get done, done, and ive got some shitty dot4 fluid in the car now, it feels quite a bit different than the ate superblue dot 5.1 ive been running
19:51 < Synx_hm> together
19:52 < Synx_hm> err, i suck at spelling
19:54 <@Shadow404> heh, at least you dont have a bork bike with a blown back tire thatrs been in the garage for over a month
19:54 <@Shadow404> waiting a tire change
19:54 <@Shadow404> cause he cant find any bike shops that will service an antique honda
19:54 < Synx_hm> true, but ive got my friends borked bike and hes going to be out of town most weekends for a while, so i get to keep it haha
19:54 <+coil> oh i didn't know that part Shadow404
19:54 <@Shadow404> lawl
19:54 <@Shadow404> coil: fix my bike
19:55 < Synx_hm> i think ill just fix it for him when the part gets in
19:55 <+coil> why not make your own tire
19:55 <@Shadow404> well my dads comng over for thanksgiving with the manual so we can get the tire off
19:55 <+coil> is it that hard?
19:55 <@Shadow404> so i can drive it to a place to get it repleace and blanced
19:55 <+coil> why not figure it out
19:55 <@Shadow404> yed it is
19:55 <@Shadow404> complicated
19:55 <@Shadow404> many parts
19:55 <+coil> awww
19:55 <+coil> lrn2bike
19:55 <@Shadow404> easy to fuck up
19:59 < Synx_hm> is football still on fox?
19:59 <@dc0de> nope, american dad is starting... me thinks
20:00 < Synx_hm> yay
20:00 < Synx_hm> im out
20:00 <@dc0de> doh, family guy
20:00 < Synx_hm> better
20:00 < Synx_hm> afk
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20:06 <@dc0de> has anyone noticed how shadow404 and Quaqmire from Family Guy are so much alike?
20:06 <@Shadow404> giggity
20:06 <@Shadow404> giggity
20:06 <@Shadow404> goooo
20:06 <@Shadow404> ?????
20:06 <@Shadow404> how so dc0de?
20:06 <@dc0de> are you watching?
20:07 <@Shadow404> no, just i know the character!!!!
20:07 <@Shadow404> and thats an old episode
20:07  * Shadow404 looks at dvr schedule
20:07 <@dc0de> the one that is on now is new
20:08 <@Shadow404> oh well, its recording, will watch at work
20:08 <@Shadow404> when sober
20:08 <@Corydon76-dig> I think he's referring to your stable of scantily clad Asian women
20:08 <@Shadow404> what? Neoteric's mom?
20:08 <@Shadow404> thats another story, but yes, thats afirrmative
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20:17 <@juice> anyone here watch dexter?
20:17 <@Corydon76-dig> Dekthster
20:17 <@sasquatc4> yessum
20:18 <@Shadow404> dexters labratory
20:18 <@Shadow404> i like the mom character
20:18 <@Shadow404> mmmmmm
20:18 <@Shadow404> for odd reasons
20:18 <@Corydon76-dig> and Didi
20:18 <@Shadow404> not so much didi
20:19 <@Shadow404> much for particular reason
20:19 <@Shadow404> heh
20:19 <@Shadow404> all in her character
20:19 <@juice> sasquatc4, you watching it now?
20:19 <@Shadow404> there was one episode starting the mom that was hot
20:20 <@sasquatc4> yea, but im 20min behind on the dvr
20:20 <@juice> oh ok sasquatc4
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20:37 <@MudFlap> Corydon: Level 10?
20:38 <@Corydon76-dig> MudFlap: ops
20:39 <@MudFlap> Mostly I lurk.
20:39 <@Corydon76-dig> MudFlap: ChanServ has a lot more settings.
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20:39 <@Corydon76-dig> You're a master op, now
20:40 <@MudFlap> Good God, now I have real settings now, but mostly I need to lurk for a bit.
20:42 <@MudFlap> Work wants to outsource e-mail/web server to GoDaddy.  I have opinions, you?
20:42 <@Corydon76-dig> You've been around.  We know you.  You're responsible.
20:42 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't know GoDaddy's services in that arena to say one way or the other
20:43 <@MudFlap> Thanks for keeping the wheels between the ditches.
20:44 <@Corydon76-dig> My opinion is generally against outsourcing those kinds of functions, partly because I'm a control freak, but also because I've seen the kinds of messes which can result
20:45 <@Corydon76-dig> For example, problems that last for days or even weeks, until you can get the hosted service to figure out what you figured out in 5 minutes how to fix
20:45 <@MudFlap> I tend to agree, and see the disasters on other firms.  Control freak as well here.
20:45 <@MudFlap> If I'm gonna get jumped up, give me the control.
20:45 <@sdodson> lugradio folks hate mandriva
20:46  * brimstone is the platform shoes to undo what heredity's done to you
20:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Unfortunately, business types see the money and don't foresee the problems
20:46 <@Corydon76-dig> So what it usually takes is for them to try it, then back out after a few months
20:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Usually that means buying a whole new mail server at the end, though, so if your mail server is lacking, it might be a way to ensure you get an upgrade
20:48 <@Corydon76-dig> The expense of upgrades are generally what cause business types to look at outsourcing IT functions in the first place
20:48 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: you still using mandriva?
20:48 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: on some machines
20:48 <@MudFlap> I'm pushing a new server - they are coughing on the cost.  Want MS goodies, but don't like cost.
20:49 <@juice> sdodson, this episode is kinda crazy
20:49 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I'm gradually moving towards Ubuntu, mainly because Mandriva has screwed up their last few upgrade cycles
20:49 <@sdodson> hardware and software costs are marginal
20:49 <@sdodson> Corydon76-dig: hater!
20:49 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: I wouldn't be moving otherwise
20:50 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: in fact, I'd go so far as to state that the Connectiva merger was the worst thing to ever happen to the distribution
20:50 < ware> My Settings
20:50 < ware> Change Password
20:50 < ware> If you'd like to change your password, do it here. Pick something easy to remember, like the word "password."
20:50 < ware> lol
20:51 <@sdodson> I hope FreeBSD 7 is decent.
20:51 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: that is hilarious
20:51 <@sdodson> Friends and I were thinking that FreeBSD died when jkh quit being the releng guy.
20:51 <@sdodson> ware: where's that?
20:51 <@Corydon76-dig> sdodson: well, they certainly did suffer for a few releases
20:52 < ware> okcupid.com
20:53 <@sdodson> juice: lugradio is good stuff generally, they seem to nut on about ubuntu a bit more than I'd like, but oh well.  Do you like the more 'produced' segments like the Enlightenment one?
20:53 <@sdodson> like the segments that have obviously been planned out and editted
20:53 <@juice> sdodson, I mean dexter :P
20:53 <@sdodson> juice: oh
20:54 <@juice> :)
20:54 <@sdodson> you got my hopes up
20:55 <@sasquatc4> yea, they are makin it seem like they are coming really close to him
20:57 <@juice> yeah
20:58 < fall0ut> theres nothing really wrong with godaddy's email stuff
20:59 <@MudFlap> fallOut:  Can we have each user rap up to 10 gig?
20:59 < fall0ut> no clue
20:59 < fall0ut> I bet if you pay for it
20:59 <@juice> but I think he might be on to SGT. Doakes, after he just left maybe
20:59 < fall0ut> they'll let you
20:59 <@juice> have to wait and see
20:59 < fall0ut> I know some people who use them for hosting and like it
20:59  * wizardPC violates the topic
21:00 <@dc0de> MudFlap I host my exchange at 1and1.com, and a few of my sites at godaddy.
21:00 <@dc0de> I could go either way.
21:00 < fall0ut> go use google apps
21:00 <@dc0de> it's better than running them out of my house.
21:01 <@Corydon76-dig> wizardPC: are you drunk and pliable?
21:01 <@wizardPC> not *that* pliable, i'm sure
21:01 <@Corydon76-dig> lol
21:01 <@dc0de> fall0ut I have tried google apps, they suck
21:01 < fall0ut> eh
21:01 < fall0ut> I use it for free
21:01 < fall0ut> its not bad
21:02 <@dc0de> For free, I use Open Office... it's far better.
21:02 < fall0ut> well
21:02 < fall0ut> im talking about their email stuff
21:02 <@MudFlap> I'm wondering why I would want to offsite my firm?
21:02 < fall0ut> maybe its not apps
21:02 < fall0ut> whatever their email hosting shit is
21:02 <@dc0de> MudFlap it's less overhead for you.
21:02 < fall0ut> theres some company used to colo next to us in NOTA
21:02 < fall0ut> they did some slick mail hosting
21:03 <@dc0de> and the email spam doesn't come in on your pipe, it's cleaned somewhere else.
21:03 < fall0ut> MailStreet
21:04 <@MudFlap> I kinda like the idea of using offsite horsepower to handle spam.
21:04 <@dc0de> wow, the local news has now talked about 3 senseless killings for their "Top News Stories"
21:05 <@dc0de> MudFlap you can actually show ROI on that shit.
21:05 <@MudFlap> @dc0de: good point
21:05 <@dc0de> and i love the fact that someone elses pipe and horsepower are cleaning my spam.... and av.
21:06 <@dc0de> Why should you have to spend your $$ and time on that crap.
21:06 <@dc0de> "Operation Hammer Time" in Atlanta last night.
21:06 <@MudFlap> dc0de:  Excellent point.
21:06 <@dc0de> Cops stopping drunk drivers
21:08 <@wontonjoe> so this new macbook is in the mail....
21:08 <@wontonjoe> 888 dollars total, most ive ever spent on a peecee of any sort
21:08 <@wizardPC> so I think I have a bad idea...ive taken the laser diode out of an old DVD burner and am thinking about using it to replace a pistol laser I have
21:09 <@dc0de> wizardPC that's a very bad idea
21:09 <@wizardPC> well, the pistol laser isnt on a pistol
21:09 <@dc0de> wizardPC have you tried to see if the laser is visible?
21:10 <@wontonjoe> burn der eyes out, den shoot em dead!
21:10 <@Mirage> should be a red laser, shouldn't it?
21:10 <@dc0de> Mirage it depends...
21:10 <@wizardPC> should be
21:10 <@wizardPC> well I didnt just destroy an $800 blu-ray burner
21:11 < fall0ut> wizardPC: someone did that and posted up pics
21:11 < fall0ut> and videos and stuff
21:11 <@I-MOD> the one i had was IR
21:11 < fall0ut> it was kinda cool
21:11 <@wizardPC> yeah, kipkay
21:11 <@dc0de> http://felesmagus.com/pages/lasers-howto.html
21:11 <@dc0de> and very hard on your eyes...
21:12 <@dc0de> well, I'm off to bed...
21:12 <@dc0de> night all.
21:12 < ware> pz
21:14 < fall0ut> I've got a buncha ir l band lasers on old cards I could tear up
21:14 < fall0ut> er
21:14 < fall0ut> c  band
21:18 <@wizardPC> cards?
21:19 <@sdodson> this sucks, work tomorrow :(
21:24 <@wontonjoe> im off all week as usual
21:24 <@wontonjoe> its mexcellent
21:27 < ware> i gotta work 3 days
21:28 <@sdodson> wontonjoe: why you off all week?
21:30 <@MudFlap> I'm out till tomorrows battles.
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21:31 <@sasquatc4> wish my work wasnt run by a bunch of bitches, only get thursday off
21:32 <@dasunt> I wish I was independantly wealthy.
21:35 <@sdodson> Oracle is amazing, they're able to generate wealth at the mere mention that they're entering another market.
21:41 <@dasunt> Any way to automagically translate invalid characters when copying from ext3 to fat32?
21:42 <@sdodson> I guess that should be qualified with 'in markets they don't really have expertise'.
21:48 <@sdodson> wow, these melatonin (sp?) pills knock you the fuck out
21:53 <+coil> 2i wish they did
22:02 <@dasunt> Go drinking, lose a testicle?
22:02 <@dasunt> Woopsie, wrong channel.
22:02 <@sdodson> hi dasunt
22:02 <@brimstone> hi dasunt
22:03 <@sdodson> does the walmart pc have a pci slot available?
22:11 <@wizardPC> the?
22:11 <@wizardPC> they only sell one now?
22:12 <@sdodson> The $200 one
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22:14 <@wizardPC> hey snm, did you need me earlier?
22:14 <@someninjamaster> me and a friend of mine are going shooting tommrow afternoon
22:14 <@someninjamaster> if you want to come
22:15 <@wizardPC> I went yesterday with Corey, who in about 30 seconds showed me what I was doing wrong
22:15 <@someninjamaster> what was it
22:17 <@wizardPC> my subconcious was compensating for the recoil
22:18 <@wizardPC> right at the point where I was pulling the trigger, I dipped the muzzle
22:19 <@wizardPC> after that, I started actually hitting the target
22:23 <@someninjamaster> oh
22:38 <@juice> arg gnome,alsa, and gstreamer are a pain
22:38 <@juice> mainly alsa and gstreamer getting the setting right for gnome apps
22:41 <@wontonjoe> spictacular
22:42 <@wontonjoe> i think ill put ubuntu on my new macbook
22:42 <@juice> yeah ..
22:45 <@wontonjoe> pimped out apple with an opensource os
22:47 <@sasquatc4> that seems like a complete waste of a macbook, why not just buy a 500 dollar laptop and get the same performance
22:47 <@wontonjoe> well i only paid 800
22:47 <@wontonjoe> 888 to be exact
22:48 <@sasquatc4> ahh, well then go for it, was thinkin it was one of those 1500-2k ones
22:48 <@wontonjoe> and ive got the 500 dollar laptop, but dual booting osx leopard and ubuntu seem sooo nice
22:48 <@wontonjoe> nah this is not the pro
22:48 <@wontonjoe> this is the base model $1099 macbook
22:48 <@sasquatc4> so tempted to get one wednesday night at the compusa early bird
22:48 <@sasquatc4> hard to pass up 500 dolla for an amd x2 with 2gb ram
22:49 <@wontonjoe> but i found an ebay auction with a new in the box one for buy it now and shipping around 888
22:49 <@wontonjoe> thats not a bad deal for a laptop with 2 gigs of ram
22:49 <@wontonjoe> my new toy will hold up to four gigs
22:49 <@sasquatc4> yessum
22:50 <@wontonjoe> and ive got a 160 gig sata to replace its 80 gig when i get it
22:50 <@wontonjoe> and soon after im installing a dvd burner
22:50 <@wontonjoe> so this will be a rocking little laptop
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22:50 <@wontonjoe> only has 144 megs of shared video ram on the video card though, which strikes me as odd, my d420 will do up to 256
22:51 <@timoguin> haha
22:51 <@timoguin> nice topic
22:51 <@JimShoe> you still have the d420?
22:51 <@wontonjoe> yup yup
22:51 <@wontonjoe> i sold my powerbook and imac
22:51 <@wontonjoe> got 1200 altogether
22:52 <@JimShoe> how much would you sell the d420 for?
22:52 <@timoguin> baudburn: ping
22:52 <@timoguin> send me your email in pm
22:52 <@wontonjoe> not sure if i want to sell it at the moment, ive kinda reverted back to all laptop, and i get scared with only one system
22:53 <@wontonjoe> jimshoe, as far as the phone thing, i dont have any tmobile phones that i can think of, sorry :(
22:53 <@JimShoe> damn ok
22:54 <@JimShoe> i just figured you would
22:57 <@wontonjoe> i used to, but my girlfriend is continually nagging at me to dwindle down my overstock of useless crap
22:58 <@JimShoe> I have been getting rid of stuff also
22:59 <@wontonjoe> im probably about to move to a one bedroom apt, so ive gotta get rid of a lot more
23:17 <@Corydon76-home> wontonjoe: awww, you sold your imac?
23:18 <@wontonjoe> not the one for you
23:18 <@wontonjoe> this was my white one
23:18 <@wontonjoe> 17 inch g4
23:19 <@wontonjoe> 1.25 gig
23:19 <@wontonjoe> yes ill miss it, but its progress, eventually the g4 machines will be useful but have no upgrade path
23:19 <@wontonjoe> the macbook should last me a good decade if i choose to keep it
23:20 <@wontonjoe> that and the one bedroom deal has no room for multiple desktops systems
23:22 <@wontonjoe> im still in shock, this is the most ive ever spent on a computer
23:27 <@JimShoe> lol yea and i wanted more for my mapbook pro
23:28 <@wontonjoe> ya but my macbook is new in box
23:28 <@JimShoe> yea well i would still get the apple care for it
23:29 <@wontonjoe> oh i am
23:29 <@wontonjoe> definitely worth it, i mean i can fix hard drive ram etc, but im worried with stuff like fan problems and that sort of thing
23:30 <@JimShoe> uea i know what you mean
23:30 <@wontonjoe> i will miss the powerbook look that my powerbook and the macbook pro share
23:30 <@someninjamaster> did you get the macbook or macbook pro
23:31 <@wontonjoe> macbook
23:31 <@wontonjoe> couldnt afford a pro
23:31 <@someninjamaster> i had one of those
23:31 <@wontonjoe> any good?
23:31 <@someninjamaster> i actually ordered it the day it came out
23:31 <@wontonjoe> this is the core 2 duo 2 gig
23:31 <@someninjamaster> i liked it
23:31 <@someninjamaster> but it just wasnt quite enough power
23:31 <@someninjamaster> so when the led backlit macbook pros came out
23:32 <@someninjamaster> i went for it since it was stronger and had a better battery life
23:32 <@wontonjoe> well the new model which im getting will hold up to 4 gigs of ram and has a little heftier video memory albeit shared
23:32 <@Corydon76-dig> wontonjoe: I'll be in HSV tomorrow if you want to come drop off that iMac...
23:32 <@wontonjoe> if im up ill try to, i usually end up crashing all day monday lately :(
23:32 <@someninjamaster> i liked the glossy screen on the macbook i had
23:33 <@wontonjoe> what kind of battery life does a macbook get about three hours isnt it?
23:33 <@someninjamaster> about that
23:34 <@someninjamaster> i actually sold it to my grandparents after i got it back from apples repair service
23:34 <@wontonjoe> what happened to it?
23:34 <@someninjamaster> it had all of the 1st gen problems
23:34 <@wontonjoe> ya im hoping since ive waited till the second revision that ill be in a better position
23:35 <@someninjamaster> in the end they replaced the: top case, bottom case, motherboard, logic board, screen bezel, monitor cable, keyboard, trackpad, and one other thing i cant remember
23:35 <@wontonjoe> wow they shouldve just gave you a new one, it would have cost them less
23:36 <@someninjamaster> yeah
23:36 <@someninjamaster> in the end the only thing they didnt replace was the optical drive and the hard drive and processor
23:36 <@someninjamaster> and screen
23:37 <@someninjamaster> the battery was the other thing
23:37 <@wontonjoe> eww sounds like the macbooks had some issues
23:37 <@someninjamaster> well to be fair
23:37 <@someninjamaster> this one was ordered within 15 minutes of the announcement
23:38 <@wontonjoe> wow it was one of the very first
23:38 <@someninjamaster> yeah
23:38 <@wontonjoe> they had them refurbed for 949 plus tax on the apple websiote, i almost bought one, kinda glad i didnt now
23:39 <@wontonjoe> mines so new its even got leopard
23:39 <@someninjamaster> cool
23:39 <@someninjamaster> im getting a new imac when my office gets finished
23:40 <@someninjamaster> im trying to decide if i want a 20 inch and use dual screens, or a 24" and use one
23:41 <@someninjamaster> first thing i would get for your macbook is one of the hard cases
23:45 <@wontonjoe> do they scratch easy?
23:45 <@wontonjoe> i know where i can pick one of those cases up cheap
23:45 <@someninjamaster> its hard for me to say
23:45 <@someninjamaster> because the first ones had issues with it
23:45 <@someninjamaster> ie. why the replaced the case on mine
23:46 <@wontonjoe> ah ok
23:46 <@someninjamaster> http://www.speckproducts.com/products/by_device
23:47 <@someninjamaster> i use speck
23:47 <@someninjamaster> but thats because they send me their stuff for free
23:49 <@wontonjoe> cant beat free
23:49 <@someninjamaster> nope
23:49 <@someninjamaster> but the one they sent for my macbook pro is an ugly ass green
23:50 <@wontonjoe> those are at a salvage store here i can get one for ten bucks
23:54 <@freakn> has outerz0ne been announced yet?
23:56 <@Corydon76-dig> No, but Interz0ne 2008 will be held in my pants...
23:56 <@Corydon76-dig> are you coming?
23:57 <@wontonjoe> woohoo
23:57 <@wontonjoe> thats gonna be one stanky ass party
23:58 <@freakn> what are the topics for presentation?
23:58 <@wontonjoe> sorry i saw a chance to sucker punch and had to go for it
23:58 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.lpsg.org
23:59 <@freakn> hm
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