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00:42 < freakn> nice pic
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06:45 <@SkyDog_> morning all.
06:51 <@ladymerlin> whee
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07:24 <@wontonjoe> morning
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07:34 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:34 <@Scotchick> good morning
07:37 <@rattle> Morning..
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07:58 <@ware> shh.
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08:04 <@NotLarry> Shhhhhhh
08:07 <@ware> http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,23663,22756513-10388,00.html?from=mostpop
08:07 <@ware> hehe
08:07 <@ware> ~minilink
08:07 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/com.au/lPlv8.html
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08:08 <@ShadowHntr> morning
08:13 <@ware> heya
08:14 <@Dolemite> warebe0tch
08:19 <@ware> dolebear
08:20 <@Shadow404> did you keep that bear or throw it away?
08:20 <@ware> whichin? me?
08:20 <@Dolemite> My son has it
08:20 <@Shadow404> heh
08:21 <@Shadow404> did you tell him about the picture?
08:21 <@Shadow404> well you see so, i was drinkking somehing called alcohol
08:22  * ware is lost and gone to smoke
08:25 <@brimstone> i thought you quit smoking?
08:29 <@ware> i did
08:30 <@ware> then i lost my job and my fucked-up-as-me woman and started again
08:30 <@Dolemite> Cigs are just like tweakers for ware...  he can't stay away for long
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08:44 <@brimstone> Your computer was recently updated!
08:55 <@ShadowHntr> brimstone : o_0
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09:06 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:07 <@Dolemite> ok, who here can decipher the crap known as Javascript variable scope?
09:07 <@Dolemite> I has an array of checkboxes, called portNum[]
09:08 <@Dolemite> I am trying to reference them within a Javascript function that's called when you click the submit button
09:08 <@Dolemite> I keep getting "document.Forms" has no properties...  or document.formname...  or however I try to reference it
09:12 <@Corydon76-dig> It's case sensitive... documents.forms[0]
09:12 <@Dolemite> I've tried both ways
09:12 <@Corydon76-dig> oops, document.forms[0]
09:12 <@Dolemite> It's being a real pain in the ass
09:12 <@Dolemite> I'm wondering if the <div> tags are changing the scope
09:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Name the form "f", then... then you can do document.f.
09:13 <@Dolemite> the form is named 'scanForm' and that doesn't work, either
09:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Using firefox?
09:13 <@Dolemite> I even tried calling the function as scan( this.form );
09:13 <@Dolemite> yes, Firefox
09:13 <@Dolemite> with firebug
09:13 <@Corydon76-dig> load the Javascript console
09:13 <@Corydon76-dig> You can examine the document structure with that
09:14 <@Dolemite> yeah, it's not showing the form name
09:14 <@Dolemite> the thing is that I can reference every variable EXCEPT for the array
09:16 <@ware> ur n0t duin it right
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09:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: examine the document.layers array... I wonder if the form might be embedded in there
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09:19 <@Dolemite> Aha.  Contrary to all documentation I could find online, what got it was...
09:19 <@Dolemite> document.scanForm.portNum[].length
09:19 <@Dolemite> Apparently you need the empty square brackets
09:20 <@Corydon76-dig> ah
09:21 < ware>  ~minilink http://stonermoments.org/ircstats/index2.html
09:21 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/stonermoments.org/texGq.html
09:21 <@Dolemite> dammit, now the same code is producing a syntax error
09:25 <@ShadowHntr> ware: that our stats?
09:25 < ware> u kan klck it n c 4 urself
09:26 < ware> f u kn red ths, sck mi ck.
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09:26 < ware> SkyDog_: ^5 i found that shirt the other day in teh trunk of my car
09:26 < ware> yes huh i do biatch!
09:26 < ware> not like id ascii goatse the channel without a nsfw warning.. jeesh
09:27 <@ShadowHntr> lol
09:27 <@ShadowHntr> i've heard weirder come from you
09:27 < ware> ....NSFW-START
09:27 < ware> *goatse*
09:27 < ware> </nsfw>
09:27 < ware> wilpigs stats for this chan are cooler than mine
09:27 < ware> se2600.org/stats/ i think
09:28 < ware> http://se2600.org/ircstats/
09:29 < ware> lol and for some reason im the only one holding a beer in all the irc pics
09:31 <@ShadowHntr> lucky you.
09:31  * ShadowHntr gives ware a cookie
09:31 <@ShadowHntr> you should have the picture of skydog throwing you off the roof, following the chair :P
09:32 < ware> im glad everyone thinks thats fuckin hilarious
09:33 < ware> the TV next year should be 10x as fun
09:33 <@Corydon76-dig> The cops hauling you off in handcuffs should be hilarious, then
09:33 <@Dolemite> ware : If you throw anything from the roof again, the hotel will be pressing charges with the police against you.  I highly suggest that you put that line of reasoning to bed and leave it that way.
09:33 <@ShadowHntr> i'm bringing a syringe with Thorazine to the next con :P
09:34 <@ShadowHntr> it seems like everybody goes crazy about 8pm saturday night :P
09:34 < ware> Dolemite: im pretty sure im not the n-word that keeps bringing it up
09:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Can you vaporize Thorazine and apply it from the ventilation system?
09:35 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig: dunno. we can try... :)
09:35 <@Dolemite> ware : Then just ignore it and shut the fuck up, but don't plan on throwing even a spitball off of the roof next year.
09:35 < ware> i was being sarcastic
09:36 <@Dolemite> Ok, how in the hell am I getting i == 101 in for ( var i=0; i < 9; i++ ) { blah; };
09:37 <@Dolemite> At least that's what Firebug says the value of i is.
09:38 <@wontonjoe> morning everyone
09:41 <@wontonjoe> wonton has a macbook in the mail
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09:46 <@wontonjoe> hi neoteric
10:07 <@SkyDog_> Did I miss anything?
10:08 <@SkyDog_> Apparently not.
10:16  * SkyDog_ goes back to loading the fridge.
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10:21 <@Shadow_Phone> na, just thiking about Neoteric's mom
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10:25 < freakn> moo
10:30  * Corydon76-dig milks freakn 
10:31 <@SkyDog_> Ick.
10:32 <@Corydon76-dig> They moo when they need milking
10:32 <@SkyDog_> You really need some saltpeter or something
10:32 <@Corydon76-dig> eh?
10:33 <@SkyDog_> Saltpeter reduces the sex drive.
10:33 <@Shadow_Phone> pottasum nitrate
10:33 <@Shadow_Phone> aslo a great fertilizer
10:33 <@Shadow_Phone> and major component in explosives
10:33 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, gunpowder
10:33 <@Shadow_Phone> yep
10:33 <@Shadow_Phone> and kno3
10:33 <@Shadow_Phone> aka, solid rocket fuel
10:34 <@Corydon76-dig> Most explosives nowadays don't use saltpeter
10:34 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, Corydon76-dig, ive learned that a conversation with you gets no where, so im just gonna ignore
10:35 <@SkyDog_> Shadow_Phone: I would say the same about you.
10:37 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, but i know that from arguing with myself
10:37 < ware> bullshit
10:37 <@Shadow_Phone> thats the reason i dont listen to myself anymore either
10:37 < ware> you do not know that which you thought you did but were unable to explain so
10:37 < ware> so tell me how it is and save face ho
10:38 < ware> cause that smack youre talkin aint gettin you no where
10:38 < ware> BIATCH
10:38 <@SkyDog_> Ok, everyone put their dicks back in their pants... It's just a wednesday guys.. geez.
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10:39 <@Shadow_Phone> wtf ware
10:39  * Shadow_Phone takes crack from ware
10:39  * Shadow_Phone takes crack away from kho's baby
10:39 <@Shadow_Phone> poor thing
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10:41 <@SkyDog_> Shadow_Phone: If I had any respect for you at the moment, I would berate you for acting the way you are. but..
10:42 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, its ok, im use to it
10:42 < freakn> got a dark chocolaty porter brewing.  I can smell chocolate yeasty smells in the closest this morning.  It is nice
10:42 < ware> put our dicks away?? what fun is that?
10:42 < ware> O    O
10:42 < ware> |_  _|
10:42 < ware> |    | HEY SkyDog_, LETS COCKSLAP!
10:43 < ware> :P
10:43 < ware> i should make a cockpunch one haha
10:43 <@brimstone> kids these days are so creative
10:43 < ware> brimstone: arent you younger than me?
10:44 <@Shadow_Phone> mmm, i should buy ingridients for a chocolate porter after i fix the holiday batch
10:48 <@Neoteric> ware: you should have less free time
10:48 <@SkyDog_> Neoteric: Agreed.
10:48 <@SkyDog_> Maybe he should be expanding his skillset, so he can get a better job.
10:48  * SkyDog_ brews a pot of Cafe Verona...
10:48 <@Corydon76-dig> At this point, isn't male prostitution a better job?
10:50 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: I doubt it.
10:51 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: he might even get more money
10:51 <@Neoteric> SkyDog: at least he should wank less
10:53 <@SkyDog_> Neoteric: Agreed. :)
10:54 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I'm bored now.
10:55 < ware> yes, i should wank less and fuck more
10:55 < ware> and i am expanding my skillset
10:55 <@Corydon76-dig> preferably not in public sight
10:55 <@SkyDog_> Heh. No, you should wank less, and have better standards for who you fuck.
10:55 < ware> never fux'd with sbs web remote but i gotta fix0r it!
10:55 < ware> SkyDog_: thats why im not getting laid atm, standards
10:55 <@Evilpig> sbs...  ick
10:55 < ware> thats why i didnt fuck the con ho
10:56 < ware> sbs has been interesting the past 3 weeks. before this i had minimal experience with it
10:56 <@Dagmar> Oh?  And who was that?
10:56 <@SkyDog_> ware: Um, yeah, we believe that.
10:56 <@ShadowHntr> Corydon76-dig : he's Tony, the Italian gigolo furniture mover !
10:56 < ware> i dont care what you believe, she sucked my balls and that was it
10:57 <@Dagmar> Pics or shens
10:57 < ware> she was the lazy eyed brunette
10:57 < ware> rofl
10:57 < ware> ol wanderin' eye
10:57 < ware> probably sucked so hard on so many dicks that her eye went crooked
10:58 <@Corydon76-dig> Sucking dick doesn't make your eyes go crooked... trust me...
10:58 <@SkyDog_> jebus.
10:59 <@Evilpig> how's that coffee now SkyDog_ ?
10:59 <@SkyDog_> Um, It's still in the pot. For the moment.
10:59 <@SkyDog_> Getting out the brain bleach.
11:01 <@Evilpig> windows really should put the dhcp database in the active directory.  it would make things so much better
11:01 <@SkyDog_> But... that would make... sense.
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Doesn't the network have to be up first before AD starts?
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> I'm thinking chicken-and-egg problem
11:02 <@Corydon76-dig> especially if the DHCP server and the primary AD are different servers
11:03 <@Evilpig> it's a distributed database changes can occur without the master being up 
11:04 <@Evilpig> and I am gonna fall back on, novell did it.   damnit.  make this shit easy.  they incorporated dns they can do dhcp as well
11:04 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: how many novell servers ran distributed, though?
11:04 <@Evilpig> all
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Hmm, I've only seen Novell in single server configurations
11:05 <@Evilpig> if I have a dhcp or dns server go down.  I just create a new server object and the system goes on.  all the data is stored in the directory
11:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Because frankly, you didn't need a failover for a rock solid OS
11:06 <@Evilpig> this has nothing to do with failover
11:06 <@Evilpig> well in a way it does.  but that is data that should be stored on the network in case of hardware failure
11:07 <@Evilpig> this plant I am in had a windows server go down from a HD failure two days ago.  they figured out the dhcp server was down and there was no backup of the database.  luckily they were able to do a chkdsk and got it back up.  but it leaves the same problem there that the database isn't automattically backed up and put on another server and isn't in the active directory
11:08 <@Evilpig> I can probably script something to make a dump of the database but that isn't as easy as it should be.
11:10 <@SkyDog_> Well there is also the problem with multiple DHCP servers on the network. M$'s fix is to have one stop running. That would require a little more intelligence for multiples to run from AD, and have one take over when another goes down.
11:10 <@Dagmar> Multiple DHCP servers *should* be able to share the same IP space
11:10 <@Dagmar> How is this a problem?
11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Because MS DHCP isn't RFC-compliant
11:11 <@Dagmar> Wow
11:11 <@Dagmar> Throw it the fuck out then
11:11 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: Multiples using exclusive scopes isn't a problem. Dueling dhcp servers is an issue.
11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Specifically, it doesn't test the network to see if an IP is already allocated
11:11 <@Dagmar> They can't duel
11:11 <@Dagmar> That's not a required step
11:11 <@Corydon76-dig> ISC-DHCP (reference implementation) does it
11:11 <@Dagmar> That's because it's smart
11:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Also, it's in the spec
11:12 <@Dagmar> ...as a MAY, which is probably why M$ decided to fuck it up
11:12 <+vapor_lap> Well, I got a new blackberry phone so that my new company can keep track of me.
11:12 <+vapor_lap> anybody know of a good IRC client for free?
11:12 <@Dagmar> BitchX, irssi, X-Chat
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> ksirc, on KDE
11:13 <@SkyDog_> vapor_lap: I used one for the blackberry before, but damned if I can remember the name.
11:13 <@Evilpig> I think he is meaning for the blackberry
11:13 <+vapor_lap> yeah.
11:13 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: The dhcp servers utilizing the same scope would cause issues, no?
11:13 <@Corydon76-dig> sirc, if it has perl
11:13 <+vapor_lap> dunno if there is a perl port for blackberry
11:14 <@SkyDog_> when I said dueling, I mean that when a client comes online, and requests an address, one or the other has to answer.
11:14 <@Evilpig> I should get out in the plant.  just got on here to vent about microsoft idiocies
11:15 <@SkyDog_> overlapping scopes cause the issues. Having M$ setup DHCP in AD and then having two operating would require a certain level of intelligence betwen the various servers that are acting as DHCP, right?
11:15 <+vapor_lap> sounds right to me
11:15 <@Evilpig> personally I wouldn't care if there was only one server allowed to run on a given scope at a time if the scope / reservations / etc where just stored in the AD
11:16 <+vapor_lap> MS does not "cluster" any DHCP services
11:16 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: I think there was a question about when DHCP and AD came online, and if there would be an issue.
11:16 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: you don't need coordination, if the servers test for the existence of a host with that IP
11:16 <@SkyDog_> Having two DHCP servers, one as a standby checking for a heartbeat or similar, would be the fix for that problem.
11:16 <+vapor_lap> If you want some kind of coordinated DHCP that can integrate with AD, Lucent's QIP can do that.  but I am leary to recommend it.
11:17 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: True.
11:17 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: with a fully RFC-compliant DHCP server, you can allocate static IPs from the range to hosts without a problem
11:17 <@Evilpig> if AD didn't come up then there would be no need for DHCP to come up IMO.
11:17 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: agreed. I personally think that reservations and exclusions are the wrong way to setup DHCP, but I might be alone in that respect.
11:17 <@SkyDog_> Forethought really makes a difference when it comes to your IP space.
11:18 <+vapor_lap> XO uses QIP for both DNS and DHCP.  It uses an Oracle DB backend to coordinate DHCP assignment.  It works but its a pain to setup.l
11:18 <@Dagmar> I'm baffled as to how a DHCP server is supposed to "need" to integrate with AD
11:18 <@SkyDog_> One of my clients has an issue where one tech assigned statics inside the DHCP range. And they wonder why there are issues.
11:19 <@Dagmar> That's allowed
11:19 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: It would all be in one place.
11:19 <@Dagmar> Seriously.
11:19 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: YES. Statics are allowed, if you make exclusions, or actually make a reservation for it.
11:19 <@Dagmar> Sounds like people are trying to use what happens in the DHCP server to make changes in AD data, which is madness
11:19 <@SkyDog_> These guys didn't.
11:19 <@Dagmar> How the hell did they manage that
11:19 <@SkyDog_> you're making this really complicated when it isn't/
11:20 <@Dagmar> http://blairhouse.homeip.net/~dagmar/dhcpd.conf
11:20 <@Dagmar> This shit ain't hard
11:20 <@SkyDog_> How did they manage to do it? They have someone not familiar with Networking and DHCP.
11:20 <@SkyDog_> Dagmar: I agree.
11:20 <@SkyDog_> Apparently, some people are clueless.
11:20 <@Dagmar> Yeah, well, I guess when you hire morons to do the work you get concentrated stsupid
11:20 <@SkyDog_> Pretty much.
11:20 <+vapor_lap> My experience with DHCP administration is to organize a subnet for static addresses and to create the scope to not include addresses within a certain range.  Like take a /24 address range.  Setup 100-254 for DHCP and then static all the rest.
11:21 <@SkyDog_> vapor_lap: Exactly. That's forethought.
11:21 <@Dagmar> vapor_lap: That would probably have somethign to do with your functioning cerebellum
11:21 <@SkyDog_> Alot of places just throw things in willy-nilly, and wonder why it's all gone to hell in a handbasket.
11:22 <+vapor_lap> So it sounds like you need to take your client by the hand and start a process of re-ip for servers to organize there network.
11:22 <+vapor_lap> I personally HATE reservations and exclusions.  it mucks up the scope and disorganizes things.
11:22 <@Evilpig> http://wilpig.org/temp/DHCP3TAB  <--my dhcp config
11:23 <@Evilpig> Private is the name of my scope.  oink is the name of my novell context where it is stored
11:23 <@SkyDog_> vapor_lap: I agree with you. Their ranges and Vlans are legacy, and nobody wants to go thru and re-scope them.
11:23 <@Dagmar> Wow
11:24 <@Dagmar> MS actually stores the lease data IN the configuration file?
11:24 <@Evilpig> no.  that is from my novell box at the house.  I just did a config export
11:24 <@Dagmar> Ah
11:24 <@Dagmar> Okay
11:24 <@Evilpig> the least data there is a backup set
11:24 <@Dagmar> That explains a few things then
11:24 <@Evilpig> each IP / lease is an individual object in the directory so that any server can modify it should multiple servers be up
11:25 <@Dagmar> That's still retarded that the damn things don't ICMP to test for abandoned leases
11:26 <@Evilpig> so microsoft could EASILY do the same thing.  just make a segment of an OU for dhcp data and go from there.
11:26 <@Dagmar> I guess it shouodn't be too much of a surprise, since their DHCP client implementation is equally shit stupid
11:26 <+vapor_lap> As best I know, AD does very little with DHCP.  All it cares about is Dynamic DNS.  If you want to provide some sort of centrally managed DHCP along with redundancy you will probably have to co with a commercial option (there might be opensource I dunno)
11:26 <@Dagmar> vapor_lap: I think you can get ISC's daemon to build on pretty much anything
11:26 <@Dagmar> ...and it integrates with BIND just fine for DDNS
11:26 <@Evilpig> vapor_lap: AD does NOTHING with dhcp.  that is the point
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11:28 <@critch> ohh boy, youtube fishing has started
11:29 <+vapor_lap> So does ISC support multiple servers issuing addresses from the same scope?
11:29 <@Corydon76-dig> vapor_lap: yes
11:29 <@critch> and I have to love the broken mailer that put BCC lines out in the message such that I can see them
11:30 <+vapor_lap> It may be then that QIP is just built on top of ISC and Bind.  I know it is at least built on top of bind.
11:30 <@Dagmar> vapor_lap: The thing you can be sure of is since Ted Lemon wrote a reference implementation
11:30 <@Dagmar> vapor_lap: For all intents and purposes, the behaviour of ISC's DHCPd is *exactly* what the RFC states
11:31 <+vapor_lap> nice!
11:31 <@Corydon76-dig> and since the ISC implementation is free for all to use, it seems kind of silly to run anything else
11:32 <+vapor_lap> I found the MS solution to be inadaquate but I know some large corporations feel sufficient running it.  I might have to present this to by new company and see what they have to say.  I prefer this over a non redundant solution.
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11:33 <@someninjamaster> hello all
11:34 <+vapor_lap> off to lunch.  bb later
11:36 <@ShadowHntr> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOzkmyDMQIc
11:36 <@ShadowHntr> ROFLMAO
11:40 <@someninjamaster> sfw
11:40 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: Quit streaming video at work. You've been told to stop, and if you don't you're gonna get fired.
11:40 <@SkyDog_> I mean, if you like living in a darkened home, by all means, keep at it.
11:41 <@someninjamaster> skydog_ im going shooting today at guns and leather if you want to come
11:41 <@SkyDog_> Feh. I have to sit in my office and drink coffee and watch CNN. I'm booked.
11:41 <@SkyDog_> I wish that I could though.
11:42 < ware> PWND
11:42 <@someninjamaster> haha
11:42 <@someninjamaster> anyone know if wizardpc is in town
11:43 <@critch> I don't think so
11:43 <@critch> I think this is his St. Louis Weekend
11:43 <@SkyDog_> http://nikkiandadam.com/
11:43 <@SkyDog_> Theres his calendar.
11:51 <@someninjamaster> well thats handy
11:51 <@someninjamaster> not something i would put online
11:51 <@someninjamaster> but handy
11:51 < ware> aww thats cute.
11:52 < ware> reminds me of jeffandtilghmansvideosite.com
11:52 <+vapor_lap> anybody know of a good xmpp/jabber client for blackberry?
11:52 < ware> err jeffandtilghman.com  *
12:02 <@nachoguy> yay!
12:02 <@nachoguy> so someone changed the hostname on our samba pdc
12:02 <@nachoguy> in case anyone is interested, don't do that
12:03 <@Dolemite> *burp*
12:03 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Rotisserie Chicken in teh dining hall today
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12:03 <+vapor_lap> LOL.  thats pretty funny
12:03 <@Dolemite> You get like half of a 30 lb. bird.  I couldn't finish mine.
12:03 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Ah. Hmmm. Wuss.
12:03 <@ladymerlin> whee
12:03 <@SkyDog_> I brought some soup and stuff.
12:04 <@SkyDog_> I setup a fridge, coffee maker, and have some grub.
12:05 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: if you haven't seen this yet.  you should try it. http://sourceforge.net/projects/wowaceupdater
12:05 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I was wondering if you'd gotten your fridge last night
12:05 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: Well, for one I use Cosmos
12:06 <@SkyDog_> It's a peltier fridge. It's quiet.
12:06 <@Dagmar> Outside of that I only worry about three other scripts
12:06 <@ShadowHntr> peltier. awesome.
12:06 <@Dolemite> But I'm sure that even with the coffee maker, you'll still make the occasional trip to the Common Grounds coffee shop
12:06 <@Dagmar> mobMap, Arkinventory, and Auctioneer
12:06 <@Evilpig> I got rid of cosmos cause it is so fuckin' clunky on updates
12:06 <@Dagmar> ...each of which you'd damn well better hand-hold if you don't want them mailing all your shit to god only knows where
12:06 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Yeah, there's a peltier fridge/dispenser for those 5L kegs that I'd found...  I was wondering how well it would cool
12:06 <@Evilpig> I switched to primarily ace mods and just use that to update them
12:06 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: The scenery is better, yes.
12:08 <@SkyDog_> It's been running for about an hour and a half. It's currently 55 degrees and falling.
12:08 <@SkyDog_> last night it got down to 40 before i went to bed.
12:09 <@Dolemite> That's cool
12:10 <@Dagmar> Evilpig: I'm also inclined to stick with something I already have, since Wowui got hacked
12:11 <@Dagmar> evilpig: Check the Tech Support forums for people talking about their SavedVariables being nuked
12:11 <@Dagmar> EvilPig: Someone compromised one of their servers and installed a keylogger/malwawre into the downloader
12:11 <@Evilpig> only problem I had with that was when gatherer put out their 2.2 update that fucked the savedvariables stuff
12:12 <@Dagmar> Kaspersky detects it
12:12 <@Evilpig> mine wasn't a virus.  it was the addon just zero'd out the saved file from a bug.
12:12 <@Dagmar> 2.3 by itself does enough stupid shit
12:13 <@Dagmar> My right action bars turn off every time I zone
12:13 <@Evilpig> weird.
12:13 <@Evilpig> my raid frames went awol after the 2.2 patch too.  
12:14 <@Evilpig> I have to say I love the new mail stuff though
12:14 <@Dagmar> Thank god for that
12:14 <@Dagmar> With the limit on number of pieces of mail you can see, I am perpetually in danger of letting old mail bounce or dissolve
12:14 <@Evilpig> you can send like 12 items on a single message now.  really messed with me the first time cause I went to another character looking for it and it shows up as a crate now
12:16 <@Evilpig> have you got to mess with the guild bank stuff yet?
12:17 <@Dagmar> Nah
12:18 <@Dagmar> I was amused this morning to see people bitching "but smaller guilds don't have 100g"
12:18 <@Dagmar> Fuckin lamers
12:18 <@Dagmar> *I* Have 100G all by my damn self
12:18 <@Evilpig> heck I bought the first two tabs on my guild bank for Aristocrats last night
12:18 <@Dagmar> If you can't scrape 100G together you *PROBABLY* don't *NEED* a guild bank
12:18 <@brimstone> i saw a grue with 100G last night
12:18 <@Evilpig> and promptly filled it up
12:19 <@nachoguy> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/10things/?p=262
12:19 <@Dagmar> I gotta figure out what the hell I've bene doing with my knothide leather
12:19 <@Evilpig> just about bought the third tab for the 500g  but figured I would wait a bit
12:20 <@Dagmar> The tabe get *more* expensive, just like bank bags?
12:21 <@Dagmar> Ah well
12:21 <@Dagmar> I'm just glad to finally have a shot at some goddamn profession-specific bags with lots of slots
12:21 <@Dagmar> I'm about to drop about 100G worth of hides onto the AH this weekend
12:21 <@Dagmar> ...just to clear out some damn space
12:23 <@Evilpig> well the bank tabs don't get more exspensive anymore.  aren't they all 50g now?
12:23 <@Evilpig> expensive*
12:26 <@Dagmar> 25g actually
12:26 <@Evilpig> i'm kind of curious to see if / when blizzard is going to make the contents of the guild banks viewable on the armory page
12:26 <@Dagmar> heh
12:27 <@Dagmar> I would start my own guild and pay the 100G just to make a gallery of questionable objects
12:27 <@Dagmar> like: http://thottbot.com/i3670
12:28 <@Evilpig> http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5530
12:29 <@Evilpig> thottbot used to have some of the old objects like peoples ears, hooves, etc from AV in the inventory
12:29 <@Dagmar> I think perhaps you're missing hte point
12:29 <@Dagmar> Ther'es a couple of other things that are nearly marital aids in the game
12:29 <@Evilpig> yes they have some odd items in there
12:29 <@Dagmar> ...and one that IS a marital aid
12:30 <@Dagmar> whee time to go
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13:11 <@Shadow_Phone> anyone needing a NOC job in atlanta, we got 3 more openings to fill
13:11 <@Corydon76-dig> I think freakn said he was looking for a job
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13:13 <@Evilpig> I'd just about do that but the pay is not enough most likely
13:14 <@SkyDog_> Shadow_Phone: Do I have to work near you?  Hmmm. No deal.
13:14 <@SkyDog_> :)
13:14 <@Evilpig> haha
13:14 < ware> SkyDog_ in a NOC?  haha there goes the internet...
13:14 <@Evilpig> what is worse working next to Shadow_Phone or NotLarry ?
13:15 <@Shadow_Phone> me
13:15 <@Shadow_Phone> im probably more annoying
13:15 <@Shadow_Phone> though i probably smell les
13:16 <@Evilpig> i've wasted 3 hours just sitting here.  I should leave and goto another customer site
13:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Billable hours are always good
13:17 <@Evilpig> both are getting billed
13:17 <@Evilpig> here I am just surfing and piddling around
13:17 < ware> ftw
13:17 < ware> can i haz some ops
13:17 <@Corydon76-dig> and this is bad, how?
13:17 < ware> i feel like im not part of the group down here :(
13:17 <@Evilpig> I feel like I am wasting the day by not doing something productive
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13:20 <@Corydon76-dig> There you go
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13:21 <@Evilpig> well that was short lived
13:22 < ware> thats no +o
13:22 < ware> no more bj's for you
13:23 <@SkyDog_> ware: I am in charge of the LAN for Vanderbilt's Peabody college. Apparently, I fooled a few people.
13:23 <@Evilpig> or you are talented underneath a desk
13:24 <@Evilpig> SkyDog_: is your boss male or female?
13:24  * ware sticks a gold star on SkyDog_'s left nipple and gives it a pinch
13:24 < ware> is that your new job? i hadnt heard about that one
13:25 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: Yeah, I'll tell you what.  For each blowjob you've given me, I'll give you ops for 2 weeks.
13:26  * Corydon76-dig notes that ware still doesn't have ops
13:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Damn, it's windy outside
13:27 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: better get to work
13:27 <@Shadow_Phone> Corydon76-dig: yeah, its supposed to rain in the tenn. valley area
13:27 <@Shadow_Phone> woot, water for georgia
13:27 < ware> yall can be dicks ya know it
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> "can be"?
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> ill tell you what, here
13:28 < ware> most of the time?
13:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by Shadow_Phone
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13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> how did that feel?
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> empowering?
13:28 < ware> dick.
13:29 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: the diffrence is we know how to handle our ops
13:29 < ware> i do too
13:29 <@Shadow_Phone> we dont abuse it on drunken tyriads
13:29 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: yes, a big one.  You need to open your mouth real wide
13:29 < ware> yall just cant handle my drunkedness
13:30 <@Shadow_Phone> not when you kickban
13:30 < ware> my FRIENDS cant
13:30 <@Shadow_Phone> its quite annoying
13:30 < ware> get off it, snm took my shit away when i was going to unban
13:30 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: when did you get friends?
13:30 <@Dolemite> woohoo!  Raining cats and dogs here.
13:30 <@Shadow_Phone> i thought they were more of a posse?
13:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Severe thunderstorm warning for Antioch
13:30 <@SkyDog_> It is? Damn, just looked at the feed.
13:30 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Now's when you find out what plant ops means by "slight drainage problem in the basement" of your building ;)
13:30 <@Shadow_Phone> woot, give us some rain peez
13:31 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: You could have given me that intel much earlier in this process. :P
13:32 <@Dolemite> hey, I had no clue that they'd put you in the basement...
13:32 <@Dolemite> hehehehe
13:32 <@Dolemite> Have you gone to the room with the occularum yet?
13:33 <@SkyDog_> Nope, not yet.
13:34 <@Dolemite> Well it's neat, I'm sure you'll geek out over it
13:34 <@Dolemite> wondering if it leaks or not
13:34 <@SkyDog_> I'll get them to give me the tour of that part soon.
13:36 <@nachoguy> occularum
13:36 <@nachoguy> ?
13:37 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: so are you now working for Vandy full time?
13:39 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Yeah.
13:39 <@SkyDog_> I'm on the bottom floor of Wyatt.
13:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Hmmm, I don't know what building that is
13:40 <@SkyDog_> Ah. The big one with pillars. :)
13:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Is it a coincidence that it's the same name as an old chancellor?
13:40 <@SkyDog_> It's the one with the huge dome at the top of the quad at peabody.
13:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Ah, that one
13:41 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Um, do not have that intelligence at this time.
13:41 <@Corydon76-dig> You walk in to that area and you feel like you've just stepped into a Kafka film
13:42 <@Dolemite> That old chancellor's wife still works here
13:42 <@Dolemite> she's the head of building & grounds
13:42 <@Dolemite> The large dome is the occularum
13:43 <@Dolemite> er, rather, ocularum
13:48 < ware> damn
13:48 < ware> crazy hail and wind here
13:49 <@Corydon76-dig> Worst we got in Antioch was just wind and thunder
13:51 < ware> it was quarter sized balls
13:51 <@Dolemite> ware : Maybe if you stopped fucking tweakers your balls wouldn't shrink so bad
13:52 < ware> yay lets end that joke.
13:52  * brimstone throws a chair at ware's tweaker friends
13:52 < ware> at least until we see if i can find a gal to date that isnt a tweaker
13:52 < ware> if the next one is then you all have free reign with the joke :D
13:52 <@Dolemite> We know you can find a non-tweaker, but you'll dump her to go back to the tweaker
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13:56 < ware> no kristin and i are done
13:56 <@Dolemite> for now
13:56 < ware> i wont take her back regardless and im sure she feels the same way
13:56 < ware> i deserve better than what she gave me
13:56 <@Dolemite> Did you give her a Dirty Sanchez as a parting gift?
13:56 < ware> no i kept some books
13:57 <@Dolemite> she naked in them?
13:57 < ware> no i deleted all those pictures
13:57 <@Evilpig> liar
13:57 <@SkyDog_> Man, I never got to see those. Shit. :):
13:57 <@Dolemite> That's ok, I still have the ones you sent me
13:57 < ware> did i?
13:57 < ware> haha email to me
13:57 <@Dolemite> yeah, a couple of them somewhere
13:57 < ware> i for real deleted all of them
13:58 <@SkyDog_> Man, you ALWAYS make a DVD or CD and store it somewhere safe.. Jeez.
13:58 <@SkyDog_> will you ever learn?
13:58 <@Dolemite> You can always ask her parents to email you the one of her giving you a hummer
13:58 < ware> lol hang on, lemme check my gmail sent items..
13:58 < ware> HAHA
13:58 <@Dolemite> yeah they're in your sent items, you goob
13:58 <@nachoguy> hah, are those the infamous pics that went to Kho's mom?
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14:03 < ware> bleh i deleted those too
14:03 < ware> nachoguy: yah
14:03  * brimstone gets to go see a feminist tonight for bonus points in class!
14:04 <@Evilpig> make sure you wear your "because i'm the man" shirt
14:04 <@rhia> how would one verify that you saw an actual feminist and not an imposter?
14:04 <@brimstone> she has her own wiki page?
14:05 <@rhia> as is many times mentioned in here, wiki doesn't always mean reality or truth <g>
14:05 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone: you see a feminist every time you see me
14:06 <@brimstone> have you been in a relationship with a man since 1994 as well?
14:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Not that long, no
14:07 <@rhia> k, usually it's the Japanese with, unusual themes:
14:07 <@rhia> http://www.news.com.au/travel/story/0,23483,22756557-27977,00.html
14:09 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by Shadow_Phone
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14:09 <@Corydon76-dig> Power is going wacky in Antioch now
14:10 <@Shadow_Phone> woops, did i slip on the keyboard again?
14:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by Shadow_Phone
14:13 <+vapor_lap> I need to appeal to the perl scripters here.  I am trying to grab arguements passed at the cli.  basically I want this:
14:13 <+vapor_lap> qacheck -u "vapor" -p "vapor's password" computername  and have -u assigned to a variable as well as -p and have the computername assigned to a variable as well
14:13 -!- mode/#se2600 [-o ware] by Shadow_Phone
14:13 <@Shadow_Phone> damn, need to fix that script
14:13 <+vapor_lap> we got a hit in the woodbine area a few minutes ago <- power hit that is.
14:13 < ware> flickered here as well
14:14 <@Shadow_Phone> i want weather here admnit
14:14 <@Shadow_Phone> *damnit
14:14 <@Shadow_Phone> we need the rain mroe than you hobos!
14:14 < ware> uhh.. you have weather there?
14:14 < ware> RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
14:14 < ware> fckn noobs get on my nerves so bad
14:14  * ware looks at Shadow_Phone 
14:15 <@Shadow_Phone> uh no
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14:15 < ware> actually
14:15 <+vapor_lap> ya know, calling us hobos and misspelling  more at the same time loses some of the effect.
14:15 < ware> yes
14:15 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: do u see any damn weather: http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=zoom&num=1&delay=15&rbscale=0.2108695652173913&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=FFC&type=N0R&lat=33.88132095&lon=-84.68724823&label=Powder%20Springs,%20GA&showstorms=0&map.x=420&map.y=191.5&centerx=400&centery=240&lightning=0&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0
14:15 <@Shadow_Phone> ~minilink
14:15 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/wunderground.com/6XOaL.asp
14:16 < ware> whats the temp there? whats the wind doing? thats weather asshat
14:16 <@Evilpig> I really hate some of my customers
14:16 <@Corydon76-dig> vapor_lap: perldoc Getopt::Long
14:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [+o ware] by Shadow_Phone
14:16 <@Evilpig> I spend hours fixing a problem then they just go and break it again later
14:16 -!- mode/#se2600 [-o ware] by Shadow_Phone
14:16 <@Shadow_Phone> woops, did it again
14:16 <@Shadow_Phone> sorry ware
14:17 <@Corydon76-dig> vapor_lap: or Getopt::Std, if you just want short options
14:18 <@Dolemite> yay, my ajax port scanner is working as desired now
14:19 <@Shadow_Phone> you have desires for ajax?
14:19 <@brimstone> Dolemite, using images or how?
14:19 <@Dolemite> You check off a list of services, it scans for those ports, it tells you the results
14:20 <@brimstone> link?
14:20 <@Dolemite> I get system admins submitting requests for me to add systems to monitoring all the time...  and as soon as I enter them in I see that they forgot to open firewall rules to the nagios server...   so this is going to be a validation form they'll have to go through before they can submit a request
14:20 <@Dolemite> it's in a protected realm
14:22 < ware> screen shot
14:23 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, that sounds awesome
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14:24 <@Dolemite> uploading
14:24 < ware> i wonder what happened to that graphical display thing for wireshark
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14:25 <@Dolemite> http://www.cadmuslabs.net/~scott/validator.jpg
14:26 < ware> neato
14:26 <@Dolemite> I've got to add more services to it now, of course
14:26 <@Dolemite> but the framework is now working
14:27  * ware ponders a valid VUnetID
14:28 <@Dolemite> hahahaha
14:28 <@brimstone> missed the url in the bottom right Dolemite
14:28 <@Dolemite> yeah, I forgot to black out the hostname at the bottom right
14:28 <@Dolemite> but that's ok, like I said it's in a protected realm
14:28 <@Dolemite> and repeated attempts to get at it will result in the IPS blocking you
14:29 < ware> attempts at teh login or the page? im not loggin into anything :D
14:29 <@Dolemite> you know what I mean, asshat
14:30 < ware> Shadow_Phone: start trying random numbers in this link i give you...
14:30 <@nachoguy> did you take the pic down already?
14:31 <@Dolemite> yep
14:31 <@Dolemite> I'm going to fuzz out the url I missed
14:31 <@nachoguy> ok
14:31 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: ok
14:32 <@Dolemite> it's back up now
14:32 < ware> #ware for all ur 0day linkz
14:32 <@nachoguy> neat0
14:33 <@Dolemite> Of course, I could have left the host entry like it was.  Like you can get to the 10.2.0.0/16 subnet from outside. :)
14:34 <@Dolemite> Here's where the original code came from...
14:34 <@Dolemite> http://www.durgle.com/projects/code/ajaxportscanner/ajaxportscanner.zip
14:35 <@Evilpig> bah.  nothing going on at this client either.  guess I shoudl head home.
14:35 <@Dolemite> I just changed it to go from scanning a range to scanning specifics, plus added in the SNMP queries
14:35 <@nachoguy> javascript snmp?  neato
14:35 <@Dolemite> no, php call to snmp
14:36 <@Dolemite> the javascript makes and xmlhttprequest to a php script which does the scanning
14:36 <@Dolemite> s/and/an
14:36 <@Dolemite> The point is to get a picture of what the server side can see on the specified host, not what the client side can see on the specified host
14:37 <@Dolemite> You open up your firewall rules to your monitoring host more than you do to the world
14:37 <@Dolemite> So you need a looking glass, so to speak, from the perspective of the monitoring host
14:38 <@Evilpig> check this one out Dolemite   http://ajaxplorer.sourceforge.net/
14:38 <@Dolemite> I did look at that
14:38 <@Dolemite> It does the opposite of what I want...  I don't want to know what the client can see on the host, I want to know what the server can see on the host
14:38 <@Evilpig> I have that on a few of the sites I host.  I just make an alias like alias /upload /home/ajaxplorer  then they can login and upload shit to their sites easily
14:39 <@Evilpig> this isn't a port scanner.  just an interesting ajax app
14:39 <@critch> this storm is screwing up my connection to the intertubes
14:40 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, most of my midge pron seeds are in tenn.
14:40 <@Shadow_Phone> this is pissing me off
14:40 <@nachoguy> shadow_phone, if you plant them, do you end up with midget porn trees?
14:41 <@Shadow_Phone> thats a good question
14:41 <@Shadow_Phone> not all midget offspring turn out to be midgets
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14:46 <@Corydon76-dig> Is that like 'not all kids of idiots turn out to be idiots'?
14:46 <@Corydon76-dig> So there's hope for ware's progeny?
14:46 <@critch> some things are still genetic and require odd mutations to fix
14:50 <@Shadow_Phone> Corydon76-dig: well, we hav about 4 months to find out
14:50 <@Shadow_Phone> i think kho is halfway through her pregnancy
14:51 <@Corydon76-dig> and then the horse emerges?
14:52 <@Evilpig> clown
14:52 <@Evilpig> she met up with them at the con
14:52 <@Shadow_Phone> the preggos, yeah, we know
14:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Cats & dogs in Antioch now
14:56 < ware> dont talk about your clown ass mom like that.
14:56 <@Dolemite> ware : did kh0 get preggers?
14:57 < ware> no. you know why?
14:57 < ware>   __________________________________________
14:57 < scoil> HAHAHAHAH
14:57 < ware>  /                                         /|
14:57 < ware> +-----------------------------------------+ |
14:57 < ware> | 8=======D cause i got my dick in a box! | |
14:57 < ware> +-----------------------------------------+/
14:57 < ware> rofl
14:57 < scoil> hahahaha
14:58 < scoil> lawl lawl lawl lawl lawl lawl
14:58 <@Dolemite> Oh, so you're the only one she was sleeping with.  Gotcha.  <wink>
14:58 <@Dolemite> That's why the baby will come out black
14:58  * Corydon76-dig feeds the box into a shredder
14:59 <@SkyDog_> Woohoo!
15:00 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: It sucks to have to get around the campus when it's raining.
15:00 <@SkyDog_> Met with David Bass. Nice fella.
15:00 <@Shadow_Phone> dammit, we need rain, can i haz sum of yoz rian
15:00 <@SkyDog_> Man, have some, please.
15:00 <@SkyDog_> Coming down in buckets.
15:01 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : hahaha, that's why you need to keep a good umbrella *at* the office
15:01 <@critch> had hail around 1:30 here. Came out of the colo to go home and was like, boy that rain sounds hard on the roof of the bosses Lexus. Then I noticed it bouncing off the hood.
15:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Forecast for tonight:  Dark... continued mostly dark until morning, with widely scattered light.
15:02 <@Shadow_Phone> ouch
15:02 < ware> *shrug* i dont know and dont care
15:02 < ware> she told me shes cheated on me more than i knwo
15:02 < ware> so its all good
15:02 < ware> would you like to pee on the open wound that has been my heartache for awhile?
15:02 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Yeah, I have a killer golf umbrella that you and I both can fit under.
15:02 < ware> please, i encourage you to
15:02 < ware> help it heal up with your hazing bullshit
15:03 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: I had no idea you were into golden showers
15:03 <@SkyDog_> ware: Get off the ledge man.
15:03 <@SkyDog_> You know how to get over a woman?
15:03 < ware> get over another one yeah
15:03 <@Dolemite> Get over another one.
15:03 <@Dolemite> So go do that
15:03 < ware> but im not a lying stupid whore like she was
15:03 <@SkyDog_> Yep!
15:04 < ware> and i cared for her so if you guys want to piss on me and bring shit up *all the time* then go for it
15:04 <@Shadow_Phone> there a dime a' dozen
15:04 <@SkyDog_> Well, if you don't get over her soon, I am going to introduce you to mr gallon ziploc bag, and let you discover what oxygen deprivation is like.
15:04 <@Corydon76-dig> That's right.  You tell the truth!
15:04 <@Dolemite> Go to that college whore hangout known as the football stadium and pick yourself up a girl that you have absolutely no emotional attachment to.
15:04 <@SkyDog_> ware: I cared for every one of the lying cheating whores I have dated. Doesn't make it any easier or harder.
15:04 < ware> bah whatever. i dont need another girl
15:04 <@SkyDog_> then corydon will help ya.
15:04  * Dolemite waits for Corydon
15:05 < ware> jesus lol
15:05 < ware> Corydon76-dig: i dont think tim would appreciate it very much if we fucked
15:05 < ware> sorry
15:05 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't think Tim would care
15:05 <@Dolemite> he might join in
15:05 < ware> thats just what he says
15:05 < ware> until you fuck his girlfriend
15:06 <@Dolemite> ah, so you're the girlfriend?
15:06 < ware> i was referring to another incident
15:07 <@Corydon76-dig> If you and Tim were fucking, you wouldn't be having such a bad case of blue balls
15:07 < ware> how do you know ANYTHING about my or tim's balls?
15:08 <@Corydon76-dig> You display them so well in here
15:08  * SkyDog_ makes sure the condition of his balls is not common knowledge.
15:09 <@nachoguy> skydog, tuck them into your socks so they don't drag on the ground
15:10 <@SkyDog_> nachoguy: Point taken.
15:10 <@Corydon76-dig> This is Al Sleet, reminding you that if you don't like the weather, MOVE.
15:12 < ware> creepy ass stalker wantin to know about my balls.
15:34 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I have a 23" monitor on my desk, two power bricks and a wireless mouse... Now I just want my mac to go with them.
15:37 <+vapor_lap> bastard..  I want a 23" monitor.
15:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Just one monitor?
15:37  * vapor_lap has monitor envy
15:37 <@Corydon76-dig> 2 x 19 > 1 x 23
15:37 <@critch> 3 x 19" > 2 x 19"
15:40 <@SkyDog_> critch: I agree, but I just got here.
15:40 <@SkyDog_> I will be working on more real estate.
15:41 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: so made you decide to get a Mac?
15:42 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Um, Peabody is mostly Mac, and I have a brand new Dell that I am using now. And they would drop $3K+ on a laptop and monitor for me.
15:42 <@SkyDog_> and of course, it's built on my favorite OS, FreeBSD
15:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, they're buying you one
15:43 <@SkyDog_> Um, yeah. I can't drop that much cash on a lappy right now.
15:43 <@SkyDog_> They asked what I wanted, and I told them a 15" macbookpro. They didn't bat an eyelash.
15:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
15:44 <@SkyDog_> Kinda nice to have an employer show me some love.
15:47 <@critch> SkyDog_: know anyone qualified to work on robotic tape arms?
15:47 <@Dolemite> Hey, now, I gave you a reach around.  Don't act like you haven't been shown love.
15:49 <@critch> SkyDog_: we just fully decommissioned our old tape library due to the robot arm giving intermitent trouble.
15:49 <@critch> SkyDog_: I am trying to suggest to my boss that we bring it to HC for use in the rack there if interested. 20 tape SDLT 110/220gb library
15:50 <@SkyDog_> critch: I gots some toolz.
15:50 <@SkyDog_> critch: That would be cool!
15:51 <@SkyDog_> I keep saying I need to send an email, but I am compiling info to send out.
15:51 <@SkyDog_> Our date to take posession is Jan1, but we will have access prior to that for setup,etc.
15:51 <@SkyDog_> Waiting on the offer to firm up on the space.
15:51 <@critch> Cool, let me pop my head over and let Phillip know
15:51 <@SkyDog_> need to then talk to phillip and howard and see what they can put into the pot and when.
15:52 <@SkyDog_> I have a PDF of the space layout I need to send.
15:52 <@Dolemite> A chicken in every pot!
15:52 <@critch> okay, he is on the phone right now
15:52 <@SkyDog_> Wizard looked at it last night, and said it looked awesome.
15:52 <@critch> I would like seeing that if you don't mind
15:53 <@SkyDog_> Puttin git online now.
15:55  * critch ponders why we are still reserving 5% of drive space on linux boxes.
15:56 <@SkyDog_> http://www.hackerconsortium.com/docs/
15:56 <@SkyDog_> everyone is welcome to take a gander.
15:57 <@SkyDog_> heh. Watching the Lag on my connection rise.
15:58 <@SkyDog_> Back in a sec.
15:58 <@critch> I see a set of stairs, what is at the top of the stairs?
15:59 <@critch> btw, printing out here to share instead of killing your connection too bad
16:00 <@SkyDog_> There is a mezzanine at the top of the stairs. It's intended use is for raw materials storage.
16:00 <@SkyDog_> We talked about 2x4 framework with either cardboard storage boxes, similar to what you get for reynolds and reynolds, or rubbermaid totes.
16:01 <@SkyDog_> Also, under the stairs is a secure area, with a lock. That will be the place to put your oxy-acetlyne and welding stuffs.
16:01 < MudFlap> SkyDog: If you opt for cardboard boxes, we have paper boxes overflowing here.
16:02 <@SkyDog_> Coolness.
16:02 <@SkyDog_> I figure we'd do it similar to what they do on Mythbusters.
16:04 <@critch> SkyDog_: 2x4 framing is okay, 2" angle iron is better for long spans and isn't too expensive. Then you can drop 2x4 slats and cheap plywood over it.
16:05 <@SkyDog_> true. Depends on what we have fund-wise.
16:05 <@critch> SkyDog_: I still don't feel comfortable with the oxy/acet being at that location yet. That would be dangerous and I don't want to know what type of liability insurance we would need for that.
16:06 < MudFlap> Need a microwave?
16:06 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: Sure!
16:06 < MudFlap> Done.
16:06 <@critch> I may make a easy to mount rack for my trailer, or a simple trailer to bring them in when needed.
16:06 <@SkyDog_> Looking for a Coke Machine.
16:07 <@critch> Hell, I may just build yet another box that hangs off the receiver on my car to carry them around.
16:07 <@critch> Boss is off the phone, time to go chat with him
16:08 <@SkyDog_> Coolness.
16:08 <@SkyDog_> I think he will find it appealing.
16:09 <@SkyDog_> Well, if he doesn't, then we have to scale back a bit.. :)
16:09 <@SkyDog_> Anyone else look at it?
16:11 <@SkyDog_> Guess not.
16:12 < MudFlap> Looked, and trying to find free gear.  Nice setup.
16:13 <@SkyDog_> Thanks. We've spent alot of time working on it.
16:13 <@SkyDog_> I am just hoping that things will come together properly.
16:14 <@SkyDog_> We've done alot to try and appeal to everyone, and to please everyone we can.
16:15 < MudFlap> Got a monthly fee I can pass along to folks?
16:17 <@critch> SkyDog_: Phillip was happy with the layout
16:17 <@SkyDog_> Well, we were originally talking $150 for a 'Full Duplex' member. The 'Half Duplex' price hadn't been determined yet.
16:18 <@critch> We just threw around some ideas about netowrk connectivity. Obviously it will be difficult to get residential cable modem service like we currently have for the office there.
16:18 <@SkyDog_> Of course, if phillip and howard are on board, the price will drop to probably $125 for full Duplex.
16:18 <@SkyDog_> as we gain people, I want to drop it more.
16:18 <@SkyDog_> critch: It's got Comcast there, and also has DSL capabilities.
16:18 <@SkyDog_> My plan is to have all three, but the DSL is private for ops.
16:19 <@critch> But that would be business comcast. not thumbing my nose at it, but it is just different
16:19 <@SkyDog_> Well, yeah.
16:19 <@SkyDog_> Not the cheapest, but still not a bad connection.
16:19 <@critch> Well, we where just wondering what it would take to pool some resources and get maybe a faster link
16:20 <@critch> do you have an address you can share for the location?
16:20 <@SkyDog_> how so? What kind of link?
16:21 <@critch> Did Butler get our of WiMax?
16:21 <@critch> s/our/out/
16:22 <@SkyDog_> I have no idea.
16:24 <@critch> well he still offers some options if we are close to a fiber loop
16:25 <@critch> Without an address it might be hard to lookup faster cheaper combined options.
16:26 < tzanger> critch is in here too?
16:26 < tzanger> wow
16:26 <@critch> I still like your idea though about having one network for the wireless and one for the rest
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16:34 <@Corydon76-dig> tzanger: critch is local
16:34 < tzanger> I dinna kow that
16:34 <@critch> yep, I am in Nashvegas
16:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Makes you want to move down here, doesn't it?
16:35 <@critch> .whereis tzanger
16:36 <@Corydon76-dig> It's like Nashville was full of geniuses or something
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16:37 <+vapor_lap> ugh.  Power is out at my house.  If that means lights are out near my house, traffic is gonna be HELL getting home.
16:41 <@SkyDog_> vapor_lap: I am sure the power at the flying saucer is on.
16:43 < tzanger> me?  southwestern ontario in canuckistan
16:51 <@rhia> well, least you've got the 'south' part <g>
16:52 < tzanger> hahaha
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17:16 < tzanger> sigh
17:16 < tzanger> updating mythtv
17:16 < tzanger> let's hope the dvb fixes carry over
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17:41 < dc0de> sup all?
17:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Someone just posted a new attack against RSA
17:42 <@Corydon76-dig> It hit bugtraq earlier today
17:44 < dc0de> nice
17:44 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't completely understand the math, but apparently a good number of existing certificates are breakable under this attack
17:44 <@Corydon76-dig> and given how much modern encryption depends upon RSA, the fallout might be interesting
17:46 < dc0de> wow
17:53 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/483727/30/0/threaded
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18:01 < eryc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj1hGarg8lk
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18:14 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, so they succesfully operated on that girl in india that had 4 arms and legs
18:14 <@Shadow_Phone> everyones happy it was successful except dell
18:14 <@Shadow_Phone> they were hoping she could answer 4 tech support calls at once
18:20 <@nachoguy> I don't understand why they didn''t just worship their 8 limbed god
18:21 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
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18:37 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: ping
18:53 <@Shadow_Phone> brimstone: hey
18:53 <@brimstone> hi
18:53 <@Shadow_Phone> woot
18:53 <@Shadow_Phone> hang on a sec
18:57 <@Shadow_Phone> I-MOD: hey
18:57 <@Shadow_Phone> wontonjoe: yo
18:58 <@brimstone> so Corydon76-dig
18:58 <@brimstone> this RSA thing
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19:25 <@Corydon76-dig> So brimstone
19:29 <@I-MOD> Shadow_Phone, sup
19:29 <@sasquatc4> ~weather 80111
19:29 <+MxZBot> It's Clear in Denver Centennial, Colorado. It's 34 F (3 M, 1 C, 274 K).  Wind to the SSE at 4Mph/6Kph.
19:38 < dc0de> I'm really starting to hate comcast
19:43 <@I-MOD> which atrocity are they commiting against you?
19:44  * I-MOD jabs Shadow_Phone in the ribs before walking out to dinner
19:48 < eryc> http://web.interactions.net/Demo/index.aspx
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20:30 <@SkyDog_> Did I miss anything?
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21:06 < dc0de> SkyDog_ nope
21:06 <@SkyDog_> yo.
21:08 < dc0de> summary of tonights IRC - I hate comcast, eryc said something, Corydon told us about the RSA vuln, and some other quiet stuff...
21:08 <@SkyDog_> wow. that's um... interesting.
21:09 < dc0de> SkyDog_ or very, very boring, I can't expend the energy to determine which...
21:13 <@Scotchick> off to the homeland/mothership tomorrow - woohoo
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21:18 < digiears> evenin'
21:20 <@Shadow404> imod: yo
21:22 < digiears> quiet night?
21:33 < eryc> any of you guys have experience setting up shopping cart/ecommerce software like zencart/drupal/oscommerce?
21:33 < eryc> i'm wondering if anything (paid svc, otherwise) is better than oscommerce
21:34 < digiears> sorry, nada
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22:58 <@dasunt> http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/COUNTY07/711140445 <- I think my ex's new boytoy is in trouble.
23:01 <@B3AST> cause we know that leads to rusted out buicks on cinder blocks next
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23:09 <@B3AST> gah BSODs suck
23:20 <@juice> hi
23:20 <@juice> yeah they do
23:28 <@dasunt> DRUNK!
23:31 <@dasunt> Bored.
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23:36 <@someninjamaster> evening all
23:40 <@dasunt> G'evening.
23:50 <@someninjamaster> sup dasunt
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23:53 <@dasunt> someninjamaster: Drurnk, as usual.  And yourself?
23:54 <@someninjamaster> sober as usual
23:55 <@dasunt> I can fix that.
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