--- Log opened Tue Nov 13 00:00:19 2007
00:00 < tzanger> um
00:00 < tzanger> that is a heavily photoshopped pic
00:00 <@Corydon76-dig> but those just looking for cash are really more the con artist types
00:00 < tzanger> looks like that golem guy from lotr
00:01 <@Corydon76-dig> tzanger: bags under the eyes are photoshopped?
00:01 < tzanger> no it looks her hood was added afterward
00:07 <@dasunt> Wow, I am almost tempted to post as a girl on craigslist and write an obviously-batshit insane ad just to see if they get responses.
00:07 <@dasunt> 'Cause I don't understand it.
00:07 <@dasunt> Are people that incapable of reading between the lines?
00:08 <@dasunt> Hmmm, that one comment didn't sound good.
00:09 <@Corydon76-dig> You should see what Strom does...
00:11 <@Corydon76-dig> He takes a bunch of Craigslist posts, picks out random words, posts the string of random words along with an image of a hot guy taken off images.google.com, then waits for replies
00:11 <@Corydon76-dig> When he gets responses, he replies once again with randomly chosen words.  Repeat ad infinitum
00:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Truly enjoyable
02:21 <+coil> 6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~6~
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07:06 <@NotLarry> ok, if i want to run an exchange or groupwise type server on a linux box, suggestions?
07:07 <@rattle> HAHAHA..  Search google now..   site:*.gov porn
07:07 <@rattle> Don't click through any of the links if you are running IE>.
07:08 <@NotLarry> holy shit
07:08 <@NotLarry> what am I looking at?
07:08 <@rattle> That's the funny.
07:08 <@NotLarry> someone snag a .gov /
07:08 <@NotLarry> ?
07:09 <@rattle> You are looking at the Virgin Islands Housing Finance Authority getting owned.
07:09 <@NotLarry> ahhhh
07:09 <@rattle> Among others..
07:10 <@NotLarry> yeah, like 16000.  Damne rattle, once again you have made my day:)
07:11 <@rattle> Anytime.  Share some of the good will with BoingBoing..  They pointed this one out.
07:11 <@rattle> There was also site:*.edu free ringtones
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07:26 <+ware> m0rnin
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07:30 <@Shadow404> mronin
07:30 <@Shadow404> ware: so u beat portal?
07:32 <+ware> havent even played it :(
07:32 <@Shadow404> oh, i think i figured this one out
07:32 <+ware> i was hoping someone would have brought it to pn
07:32 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:32  * ware bitchslaps Dolemite on the right ass cheek
07:32 <+ware> morning!
07:33 <+ware> Shadow404: i would have thought you'd have beaten it by now
07:33 <@Dolemite> Power surge took out my DSL modem last night :(
07:33 <@Dolemite> No internetz at teh house for at least a day!
07:33 <@brimstone> Shadow404, have you not completed portal yet?
07:33 <+ware> oh n0ez :(  when it rains my crappy usb wifi adapter hardly works
07:34 <@Shadow404> brimstone: havent had time
07:34 <@Shadow404> stuck in the room with the 3 generators
07:35 <@Shadow404> im thinking you start them up someohow and use the elevators?
07:35 <@Shadow404> or hard jump the slant you raised
07:35 <@brimstone> probably
07:35 <@brimstone> i'd have to load it back up and find that level
07:35 <@Shadow404> got it
07:35 <@Shadow404> it was a hard jump, just hard to place the portal, only iches of room
07:36 <@Shadow404> brimstone: that computer is not nice
07:39 <@brimstone> heh
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07:50 <@Jagobah> portal is ez
07:50 <@Jagobah> but lots of fun
08:00  * ware hasnt played it :(
08:20 <@SkyDog_> Yawn.
08:20 <@ladymerlin> yup
08:21 <+ware> shhh.
08:21  * brimstone pulls ladymerlin's string
08:21 <@SkyDog_> Stopped by JJ's and got my morning cup of coffee.. .Ahhh. african smoke.
08:21  * ladymerlin kicks brimstone 
08:22 <@SkyDog_> I'd watch it brimstone, she's feisty.
08:27 <@Shadow404> brimstone: woot, beat it
08:27  * Corydon76-dig pulls Shadow404's string
08:27 <@Shadow404> the last battle was cool
08:30 <@Shadow404> the credits is halarious and the lauch screen even more soo
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08:34 <@SkyDog_> Are we having fun yet?
08:35 <+ware> i cant believe Shadow404 fucked Corydon
08:35 <@ladymerlin> whee
08:35 <+ware> i thought he was straighter than that
08:35  * ware pokes ladymerlin in the eye
08:35 <+ware> hows your monday so far
08:35  * ladymerlin steps on ware
08:35 <@ladymerlin> and its tuesday
08:35 <@Shadow404> me hands ladymerlin a bbq stake to poke wares eye with
08:36 <+ware> damn it is isnt it
08:36 <+ware> haha shit.
08:36  * ware is lagged
08:36 <@Corydon76-dig> So you'll notice tomorrow the broomstick handle up your ass right now?
08:37 <+ware> http://www.bizorigin.com/2007/riaa_nuclear_option
08:42 <@Corydon76-dig> I think it should go both ways... simply say that any organization that fails to respect copyrights stands to lose all of its own copyrights.  Imagine what happens when an employee at Sony copies some book pages and loses Sony's entire copyright collection for them.
08:43 < MudFlap> SkyDog:  www.lrplot.com may throw some gear and printing goodies to your HC.
08:43 <@SkyDog_> Woohoo!
08:43 <@SkyDog_> We went last night and looked at the space with the broker.
08:43 <@SkyDog_> Were currently looking at 4,000 sq feet.
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08:44 <@SkyDog_> I have alot of emails and phone calls to make, but we're making an offer on the space, and hopefully we'll be moving in at the end of the year, with everything starting on Jan 1, 2008
08:44 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: when do you need the check?
08:44 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Soon. :)
08:45 <@SkyDog_> I need to talk to phillip and Howard.
08:45 <@SkyDog_> I have a diagram that I will be putting online today, and some pics.
08:45 <@SkyDog_> I think you guys will be tickled with what we've come up with.
08:46 < MudFlap> Need anymore members to start it?
08:46 <@ladymerlin> its a sweet space
08:46 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: Yeah. We wanted to start with 15 full time members.
08:47 <@SkyDog_> We're not too far off, but I need to confirm with everyone.
08:47 <@SkyDog_> I am thinking about setting up a mailing list to get everyone who's interested connected.
08:48 <@Dolemite> w00f
08:48 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
08:48 <@SkyDog_> Morning Dole.
08:48 <@SkyDog_> Ya know, at 8:00AM, I got a spot right next to the building.
08:48 <@Dolemite> What's happenin'?
08:48 <@SkyDog_> Chatting about the HC.
08:48 <@SkyDog_> Been talking to Bill about guns.
08:49 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I can see that for being a parking lot by academic rather than administrative areas
08:49 <@rhia> SkyDog_:  not been paying attention.  15 full time members - of/for what?
08:49 <@Dolemite> All of us that have to work for a living are in my parking lot, so it's full by 8 AM ;)
08:49 <@SkyDog_> blog.hackerconsortium.com
08:50 <@SkyDog_> www.hackerconsortium.com
08:50 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ is hosting a key party.  Corydon is paying to have all of the keys made for his house.
08:50 <@SkyDog_> It's a hacker/maker space here in nashville that we're setting up.
08:50 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: I was here at 8.
08:50 <@SkyDog_> I was going to get here at 7, but I enjoyed the couch too much this AM.
08:51 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : Yeah, I know, but I'm saying that your parking lot was nearly empty at 8 AM...  mine was full
08:51 <@Dolemite> We doing lunch today?
08:51 <@SkyDog_> No, mine only had two open spaces. :P
08:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: I have the key for you right here
08:51 <@SkyDog_> I don't have a card yet, so I gotta bum off you, or we gotta do Pizza Perfect or something.
08:52 <@Dolemite> and you still got next to the building?  What cripple did you run over to get that?
08:52 <@Dolemite> Is your paperwork filled out for you to get a card yet?
08:52 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: He wasn't crippled, but he did have a cane.
08:52 <@Dolemite> If so it's about a 10 minute ordeal.  I need a replacement card myself.
08:52 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: I dunno. Training is on Monday.
08:53 <@Dolemite> Ah, ok.  We have our own HR rep in ITS that fills out a form that allows us to get our badge on Day 1, whether we have been oriented or not.
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08:54 <@SkyDog_> Ah. I will ask Ralph about it.
08:54 <@Dolemite> You already have your prox card for the building?
08:55 <@SkyDog_> Prox fob, yes.
08:55 <@Dolemite> Yeah, Peabody has a separate access control system from the rest of campus
08:55 <@Dolemite> kinda like we do for our building, it's just that we use the same mag swipe cards
08:56 <@someninjamaster> morning all
08:56 <@Dolemite> hey snm
08:56 <@someninjamaster> sup dolemite
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09:02 <+ware> SkyDog_: whats teh address
09:03 <@SkyDog_> for what?
09:06 <+ware> for the HC building
09:07 <@someninjamaster> dont tell him
09:07 <@SkyDog_> I will post it all in a bit, ok?
09:07 <@someninjamaster> he will toss something off the roof
09:08 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, NO FOD.
09:09 <+ware> FOD?
09:09 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:10 <@SkyDog_> Foreign Object Debris
09:11 < tzanger> http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=829
09:15 <+ware> someninjamaster: ill throw you off a roof
09:16 <@SkyDog_> You will follow him.
09:16 <+ware> of course i would
09:16 <+ware> what good is a throw off the roof unless its followed by a flying elbow?
09:16 <+ware> :P
09:17 <@SkyDog_> With your hands tied behind your head, to your ankles. Face first.
09:17 <@seeblind> morning everybody
09:17 <@SkyDog_> Yo seeblind!
09:17 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: w00f!
09:18 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
09:18 <@SkyDog_> I am psyched about the space.
09:18 <@seeblind> Same here.  When can you sure up with Howard?
09:21 <@someninjamaster>  what part of town is it in
09:21 <@SkyDog_> Soon, I am sure.
09:22 <@baudburn> monin
09:23 <@SkyDog_> yo.
09:23 <@baudburn> sup sky
09:23 <@SkyDog_> Just chillin' in my new digs.
09:24 <@seeblind> When is your lappy comming in
09:24 <@SkyDog_> Dunno. I will have to ask ralph about it. Hopefully soon.
09:25 <@baudburn> cool
09:25 <@SkyDog_> I decided to get the macbookpro 15", and a 24" monitor.
09:25 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : I have a meeting over at 3401 West End from 10a-11a, then I could meet you for lunch.  You can owe me for lunch at the dining center. ;)
09:25 <@nachoguy> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071113/hl_afp/chinahealthcondomsoffbeat_071113034834;_ylt=Arhybeol.CMO6xbxhgisvnOs0NUE
09:26 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: Where we eating?
09:27 <@Dolemite> dining center
09:27 <@Dolemite> can't beat the price
09:31 <@nachoguy> http://pinupsforvets.com/gallery/catalog.php?action=show_custom&id=170&cat=1
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09:37 <+ware> shitdick
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09:43 <@nachoguy> ware, are you calling Tim a shitdock?
09:43 <@nachoguy> eer. shitdick
09:52 <@Shadow_Phone> what is a shitdock?
09:57 <+ware> who is tim
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10:11 <@nachoguy> http://pinupsforvets.com/gallery/catalog.php?action=show_custom&id=170&cat=1
10:12 <@nachoguy> I thought you were referring to him
10:16 <+ware> i was
10:21 <@Evilpig> whay is this shit about the sun running out of juice in the next 200 years? have they commited that "scientist" yet?
10:26 <@rhia> probably gets paid by BushCo
10:29 <@Corydon76-dig> I thought the sun was only half burnt out
10:30 <@brimstone> i'm guessing
10:38 <@Evilpig> that is what i thought as well. but who really knows. i love crackpot radio while i'm driving
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10:57 <@nachoguy> http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2007/11/12/prayer_1113.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab
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11:26 <@Dagmar> That's the last straw
11:27 <@Dagmar> SandVine has to go
11:27 <@Corydon76-dig> eh?
11:28 <@Shadow_Phone> wrong channel?
11:28 <@Dagmar> WoW Patch 2.3 came out
11:28 <@Dagmar> I can definitely see which packets don't belong now
11:28 <@Dagmar> They're definitely fuckign with legitimate traffic with this damn tool of theirs
11:28 <+ware> FUCK SANDVINE
11:29 <+ware> POS
11:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, I suppose the only thing to do is to file a complaint with the FCC
11:29 <@Corydon76-dig> Thanks to lack of competition, there isn't much else
11:32 <@Shadow_Phone> omg, love new version of logmein, give you a pop u display when its about to disconnect the vnc sesion due to inactivity
11:32 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, small things make me happy, but if it saves time at work, hell yeah
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11:38 <@Dagmar> Corydon: Actually, since I'm an asshole, I'm not going to do that
11:38 <@Dagmar> I'm going to figure out for sure if what I think I'm seeing is what I'm seeing, and I'm going to fuckign tell people how to beat Sandvine
11:41 <@Corydon76-dig> <sigh>  Apparently people still haven't learned not to click on suspicious attachments
11:43 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: isos is not mouted
11:43 <@NotLarry> mounted even
11:44 <@NotLarry> click on suspictious attachments hell, I still visit openly hostile sites
11:45 <@NotLarry> 42% downloaded, how about you Dagmar?
12:01 <@someninjamaster> corydon76-dig you mean there isnt a funny dancing snowman in that exe
12:01 <@Corydon76-dig> someninjamaster: I'm getting backscatter
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12:08 <@NotLarry> damn, firefox is not showing anything in the download window on this box
12:09 <+ware> alt + f4
12:09 <+ware> will pull that up
12:09 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: give me a second 
12:10 <+ware> my dog evipig  likes to roam, one day evipig  left his home. he came back all nice and cleeeaaaannn, where oh where has evipig  BEAN!
12:10 <@NotLarry> I know the answer, it just pisses me off that it happened
12:10 <@Evilpig> NotLarry: it is up now
12:12 <@Evilpig> Dagmar: you can't really blame the wow 2.3 patch on any type of packet shaping.  blizzard has a known FUCKED torrent client
12:12 <@Evilpig> it took me three days to get 2.3
12:13 <@Evilpig> stupid fucking blizzard.  I had the client downloaded and on the day of relase they put out 6 more meg.
12:14 <+ware> theres a guy here at work that plays wow religiously too
12:15 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: is the current ai on isos/
12:15 <@Evilpig> http://12.129.232.129/Wow-2.2.3.7359-to-2.3.0.7561-enUS-patch.exe
12:15 <@Evilpig> yes
12:16 <@Mirage> starting download of patch
12:16 <@NotLarry> the setp 14th one?
12:16 <@NotLarry> sept even
12:16 <@Evilpig> whatever is under microsoft listed as autoinstall is the newest
12:16 <@NotLarry> cool, thanks.  As soon as this patch downloads I am moving it to the ext hd and wiping this laptop
12:17 <@Evilpig> http://blizzard.vo.llwnd.net/o16/content/Wow-2.2.3.7359-to-2.3.0.7561-enUS-patch.exe  
12:17 <@Evilpig> and of course if the torrent is fubared there is always fileplanet.  cause they already have it as well
12:17 <@Mirage> try this one: http://dc3x2.fileplanet.com/%5E828944189/ftp1/112007/WoW-2.2.3.7359-to-2.3.0.7561-enUS-patch.exe
12:17 <@NotLarry> thab brought p a strange page
12:17 <@Evilpig> i'm at 99% right now using the bliz torrent
12:18 <@NotLarry> I am at 48, are you dropping it on blueboy?
12:18 <@Evilpig> no
12:18 <@NotLarry> you should:)
12:18 <@Evilpig> I am just watching hte torrent connections and seeing the http direct download links
12:18 <@Evilpig> you should have downloaded it over the last two weeks
12:19 <@NotLarry> I don't have a running box
12:19 <@Evilpig> 100%  patching underway.
12:19 <@NotLarry> both those links are bad form here
12:20 <@Shadow_Phone> Evilpig: heh, i have a box named bigblue
12:20 <@Evilpig> 281MB.  just get it from filefront.  they are almost always fast
12:20 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, no so funny, just thought id throw it out there
12:20 <@Mirage> how original
12:21 <@Evilpig> Shadow_Phone: is yours actually blue?
12:21 <@Evilpig> mine was
12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> yes
12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> i got a picture of it
12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> let me find it
12:21 <@Mirage> Evilpig: I'm pulling it at ~800KB/s from filepanet
12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> Mirage: thats all?
12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> im getting 2.2mb from the datacenter
12:21 <@Mirage> Shadow_Phone: i'm at work..trust me..it's on their end
12:21 <@Shadow_Phone> to the laptop
12:22 <@Shadow_Phone> but im pulling form an atlanta server
12:22 <@Shadow_Phone> so yeah
12:22 <@Mirage> Shadow_Phone: downloading the WoW patch?
12:22 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, just wanted to see what i would get for speed
12:22 <@Shadow_Phone> dont actually play wow
12:22 <@Shadow_Phone> not right now anyway
12:22 <@NotLarry> latest patch they show is 2.2:(
12:22 <@Shadow_Phone> my work hours suck
12:22 <@NotLarry> well ids, off to bed
12:23 <@Evilpig> this is going to be a pain.   Wow-2.2.3.7359-to-2.3.0.7561-enUS-pa
12:23 <@Evilpig> oops
12:24 <@Evilpig> the whoel thing with being able to see a flying unit anywhere and vice versa.  no more hiding in the clouds above an instance while you go afk
12:24 <@Shadow_Phone> Evilpig: just sent you the pic via email
12:25 <+ware> dickpic
12:25 <@Shadow_Phone> yeah, it impresses your mom
12:25 <@Evilpig> hahaha this patch just fucked rogues in WSG.  making them unable to stealth and drop the flag while picking it right back up
12:27 <@Shadow_Phone> Evilpig: did it go through?
12:27 <@Shadow_Phone> quite a big picture
12:27 <@Evilpig> I don't have size limits on my mail i'm sure it did
12:27 <@Shadow_Phone> cool
12:27 <@Evilpig> I am not where I can check my mail right now
12:27 <@Shadow_Phone> figured that much
12:27 <+coil> ware says op him
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12:28 <@Shadow_Phone> ok
12:28 <@Evilpig> but not changing the access list
12:28 -!- mode/#se2600 [-v coil] by Shadow_Phone
12:28 <@Shadow_Phone> done
12:28 < coil> hay i need my voice
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12:30 <+coil> coil says op him
12:30 -!- coil was kicked from #se2600 by Evilpig [Evilpig]
12:30 <@ware> rofl
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12:30 <+coil> no op not kick!
12:30 <@Evilpig> finger slipped from op to kick not sure how that happened.  want me to try again?
12:31 <+coil> yes
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12:31 <@NotLarry> well this is fucked.  I am getting 250kb/sec from the office
12:31 -!- mode/#se2600 [-b *!*i=scott@24.96.135.*] by Evilpig
12:32 <@Evilpig> duh huh
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12:32 <@Evilpig> they are at capacity
12:32 <@Evilpig> they will be getting more bandwidth on friday
12:32 <@NotLarry> i thought it was last friday:)
12:33  * NotLarry can't keep his time space shit alligned
12:44 <@SkyDog_> That happen alot?
12:47 <@someninjamaster> haha
12:47 <@Dolemite> Hrmm.   idontlikeyouinthatway.com has a nice pic on the top article right now.
12:47 <@someninjamaster> anyone know if wizardpc is in town
12:48 <@someninjamaster> or should i rephrase that anyone want to go shooting tommrow
12:51 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: My Goodness. Ahem.
12:53 <@SkyDog_> Dolemite: This video is boring. Sigh.
12:53 <@Dolemite> You must be watching the Go for the Gold video
12:53 <@SkyDog_> Is it wrong that I am drinking a cup of coffee and eating a Stroopie while I watch it?
12:53 <@Dolemite> I'll give you a hint...   if you skip the video then you can take the quiz and pass with common sense
12:54 <@SkyDog_> But I can't make funny comment while I watch it...
12:54 <@Dolemite> Uh huh, just wait.  One year you may be the goober in the video.
12:55 <@SkyDog_> Like hell. Black on Black does not show up well in the videos.
12:55 <@Dolemite> ok, time for another meeting.  Shocker!
12:55 <@SkyDog_> woohoo!
12:57 <@ware> http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i208/paoloerasmus/Trouty_McAwesome_by_telemarketingsc.png
12:57 <@ware> ish for work
12:58 <@Evilpig> has anyone in here dealt with rfid for inventory tracking yet?
12:58 <@SkyDog_> Nope.
12:59 <@Evilpig> trying to find info on companies that sell the tech to do it and not getting very far at all
12:59 <@SkyDog_> For whom?
13:00 <@Evilpig> allegro
13:00 <@Evilpig> walmart is wanting them to tag all their products
13:04 <@SkyDog_> Oh. ah. Man. They are gonna hate that.
13:05 <@Evilpig> hrmmm.  might be able to do this fairly easily.  they have two of these already.  well very similar at least
13:05 <@Evilpig> http://www.rfidglobal.org/Product/2007_10/Zebra_R110XiIII_Plus_RFID_Printer.html
13:05 <@Evilpig> change out the current label printers.  and just add the software and it should work
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13:17 <@rhia> http://www.kearneyhub.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19015741&BRD=268&PAG=461&dept_id=577571&rfi=6
13:17 <@rhia> ~minilink
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13:18 <@rhia> does Ware have family in Nebraska?
13:18 <@Shadow_Phone> would make snese
13:18 <@Shadow_Phone> *sense
13:19 <@Shadow_Phone> do they throw chairs off roofs in nebraska, or would that be thow chairs off barns?
13:19 <@Shadow_Phone> *silos?
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13:21 <@ware> ill kill you.
13:24 <@SkyDog_> I keell you!
13:24 <@Shadow_Phone> silence!!
13:24 <@Shadow_Phone> you infidels, i will keel you
13:25 <@SkyDog_> Bingo.
13:25 <@Shadow_Phone> i love that show
13:27 <@ware> family guy?
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> no, akbar the terrorist
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> fbi
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> bomb
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> explode
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> planes
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> hehe
13:28 <@ware> thats stupid
13:28 <@Shadow_Phone> what, keywords?
13:28 <@ware> yeah what happens when the fbi shows up
13:29 <@Shadow_Phone> they already know me
13:29 <@Shadow_Phone> but ive always been on the good side, fortunately
13:30 <@Shadow_Phone> by this point, they probably have a personality profile on me
13:31 <@Shadow_Phone> and the fact im licensed to buy type III accelerants and oxidizers
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13:31 <@Shadow_Phone> heya jellybelly
13:31  * Shadow_Phone waves
13:35 < scoil> hi
13:38 <@ShadowHntr> would you like a jelly baby?
13:40 <@Shadow_Phone> or how about a jelly momma?
13:41 <@Shadow404> or jelly skank? where did kho run off too?
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13:56 < scoil> yummy jellybelly
14:05 < scoil> wtf Shadow_Phone
14:05 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
14:05 <@critch> anyone know of a limit on the number of files you can stick in a single dir on ext3?
14:06 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : I used to work for an integrator.  I can hook you up with a contact for what Allegro will need.
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14:23 <@ware> .msg nickserv identify ass0bitch3s!
14:24 <@nachoguy> critch, I'm not sure of a limit that you can put in a dir, but there i a limit as to what 'ls' will output
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14:26 <@polerin> afternoon thar.
14:27 <@rhia> Polerin!
14:27 <@ware> Nirelop!
14:29 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
14:29 <@brimstone> lawl lawl lawl lawl lawl lawl
14:29 < scoil> lawllwlwlw alwla wl awlw al awl awlaww  br B3AST rvr brimstone
14:30 < scoil> awful waffle
14:30 <@Shadow_Phone> unbanned
14:30 <@Shadow_Phone> get back in there
14:31 <@ware> lawl is so fucking gay. do not say it ever again. it is now a banned word
14:32 <@Shadow_Phone> lawl
14:32  * Mirage points out who it is using it
14:32 <@Shadow_Phone> i lawled wares mom and kho last night
14:32 <@Shadow_Phone> may i point out who said its gay? and we all know hes sane? right?
14:33 <@Shadow_Phone> <ware> lawl is so fucking gay.
14:33 <@juice> later all
14:33 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: asshat, unban me
14:33 <@Mirage> Hate doing it..but I have to agree with Ware on that one
14:33 <@Shadow_Phone> coil deserve it
14:33 <@ware> haha
14:33 <@Shadow_Phone> bitch
14:33 <@timoguin> so i got my new intel core 2 duo system yesterday
14:33 <@Shadow_Phone> and you havent added us to chanserv access, so we cant unban ourselves
14:34 <@timoguin> first time i've ever bought intel.
14:34 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I have to agree with Mirage.
14:34 <@Shadow_Phone> intel rocks
14:34 <@timoguin> i was amazed at how small the core 2 duo is.
14:34 <@Shadow_Phone> amd can suck a fat one
14:34 <@Shadow_Phone> intel is starting to take a lot of the gaming market back from amd
14:34 <@timoguin> shut up, lawler
14:35 <@Dolemite> AMD still rocks the house, cock goblin
14:35 <@Shadow_Phone> not for games
14:35 <@Dolemite> Maybe not for gayms
14:35 <@Shadow_Phone> maybe for video compression
14:35 <@timoguin> well i'd rather have better video compression...
14:35 <@Shadow_Phone> if your doing mythtv, of course you would
14:35 <@Shadow_Phone> or video editing
14:36 <@Dolemite> If you want to buy something just for games, get an XBox 360
14:36 <@timoguin> well cock balls, guess i should have gotten amd.
14:36 <@timoguin> i doubt it will matter.
14:36 <@timoguin> this is the fastest system i've ever had
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14:38 <@Shadow_Phone> Dolemite: na, computers are alot easier to work with when it comes to games, especially if you wanna make tweaks, add more maps, or whatever.
14:38 <@Shadow_Phone> I like to design levels
14:38 <@Shadow_Phone> man, thats why i like garrys mod, its like level editing for newbs
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14:38 <@Shadow_Phone> now my favorite level editing game was duke3d
14:38 <@ware> umm no
14:38 <@sdodson> newb
14:38 <@ware> half-life was the best
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14:39 <@Shadow_Phone> oh man, i lost of those levels when that hard drive crashed
14:39 <@sdodson> ohnoz
14:39 <@ware> or jedi knight dark forces 2
14:39 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: na, purely for the leetness
14:39 <@Shadow_Phone> its a relic
14:43  * polerin is seriously freakin excited about an idea of hers
14:43 <@ware> 8:43pm up 1056 days, 20:34, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.08, 0.17
14:45 <@ware> polerin: you still with lissa
14:45 <@ware> still married*
14:45  * polerin blinks
14:46 <@ware> ill take that as a yes
14:46 <@polerin> yes, why?
14:46 <@ShadowHntr> ware: i call bullshit - time issue
14:46 <@ware> just curious
14:46 <@ware> there is no bs
14:46 <@ware> ill get on from the server, just a sec
14:46 <@sdodson> that machine is on cialis
14:46 <@ShadowHntr> lol
14:46 <@Mirage> polerin: so where were you for PN?
14:47 <@polerin> Mirage: at a friends house helping them move.
14:47 <@polerin> to be honest I didn't want the stress
14:47 <@polerin> :P
14:47 <@Shadow_Phone> sdodson: i thought that was the server we treated for yeast infection last month
14:47 <@Mirage> polerin: bah
14:47 <@polerin> :)
14:47 <@sdodson> no stress at pn
14:47 <@polerin> sdodson: not for you, but since when have I ever been able to just sit back and enjoy something
14:47 <@sdodson> stress at pn comes from what you put upon yourself
14:48 <@polerin> again
14:48 <@polerin> since when have I ever been able to just sit back and enjoy things :P
14:48 <@ware> hey
14:49 <@ware> if you get stressed at pn, just do what i do
14:49 <@SkyDog_> drink.
14:49 <@brimstone> throw chairs?
14:49 <@Mirage> throw chairs off the roof
14:49 <@ware> MOAR CHAIRZ!
14:49 <@ware> :D
14:49 <@polerin> see that sounds like a bad idea
14:49 <@ware> that or yank it... err. if you have one?
14:49 <@sdodson> retard
14:49 <@ware> or hook up with a con ho
14:50 <@Mirage> SkyDog_: be sure to warn me before you toss ware next year..I want to have a camera setup first
14:50 <@sdodson> didnt you hook up with a cob ho, ware?
14:50 <@ware> kinda :(
14:50 <@ware> Mirage: get that on video
14:50 <@SkyDog_> Mirage: Deal.
14:50 <@timoguin> well he did.
14:50 <@timoguin> then he decided she was too ugly.
14:50 <@timoguin> hahaha
14:50 <@SkyDog_> Um, yeah. Right.
14:50 <@SkyDog_> He had no cognitive ability at that point.
14:51 <@ware> rofl that fugly ho woke up next to me
14:51 <@Mirage> ware probably couldn't get it up and is trying to save face
14:51 <@ware> and goes 'is my eye still crooked' hahaha
14:51 <@timoguin> haha
14:51 <@sdodson> wtf?
14:51 <@timoguin> no, i was there.
14:51 <@timoguin> ...in the same bed.
14:51 <@ware> tim was in the room with dude and that other girl in his bed
14:51 <@SkyDog_> and I thought I was the group manho. Jebus.
14:52 <@ware> it was on til dawn in our room
14:52 <@timoguin> that one fucker should have fucking left.
14:52 <@Mirage> ware nailing the fugly chick, and timoguin nailing ware?
14:52 <@timoguin> pissed me off
14:53 <@ware> oh yall are just jealous
14:53  * ware blows Mirage a kiss
14:56 <@sdodson> shadowhntr, huh?
14:58 <@NotLarry> fuck, blzzard's download only to 60%
14:58 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: damn, you had a 3way at PN?
14:58 <@ware> Corydon76-dig: 4way if you count my pinky
14:58 <@Mirage> NotLarry: you STILL pulling down the patch?
14:58 <@sdodson> your pinky counts more than other bits
14:59 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: and you let ware stick his finger up your ass?
14:59 <@Corydon76-dig> timoguin: do you know where that finger's been?
14:59 < scoil> 15:00 <@ware> i should have been a fag
14:59 <@Mirage> NotLarry: oh, are you still interested in crashing at the house and feeding the animals while i'm gone to OK?
15:01 <@NotLarry> Mirage: you got the patch on one of your boxes?  I'm still tring to get it
15:02 <@NotLarry> Mirage: Yeah, of course, you just got to tell me when and where and show me how to upload my monkey pr0n^h^h^h^h video's to watch on the big tv
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15:10 <@ShadowHntr> heh.
15:10 <@ShadowHntr> some quit msg
15:22 <@Mirage> NotLarry: the patch is on my thumbdrive atm. and i guess i can just create anoter mapping for videos to give you an upload point
15:25 <@Evilpig> I've got the patch.  it's loaded on my machine at the house.  but the servers are still borked
15:26 <@Evilpig> this is a sight.   http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/
15:26 <@Evilpig> "Max (Queued)"
15:28 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: Can I snag the patch from you?  This thing is still under 68% and in line at fileplanet
15:28 <@Evilpig> you won't get but 40kb/s from me right now
15:29 <@Evilpig> how are you still in line at file planet?  you got the link for that over an hour ago
15:29 <@Dolemite> Not if he drives over to your house with a thumbdrive.
15:29 <@NotLarry> that would suc, butat least I'm getting 2kb/s from the torrent
15:29 <@Evilpig> you're in town?
15:29 <@NotLarry> Dolemite, good point.  Is it on our dekstop I will just go get it
15:29 <@NotLarry> yeah, confuses me too
15:30 <@Evilpig> no.  but I can put it someplace you can find it.  go over with a thumbdrive or a cd.  but if you take I cd you'll have to trust windows to burn it.  I haven't installed any burning apps since I redid it
15:31 <@NotLarry> I got a 1 gig usb drive I trust, all I need is to grab the 281mb patch right?
15:31 <@NotLarry> omw
15:31 <@Evilpig> I have the directory on the screen
15:31 <@NotLarry> kk, thanks
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15:38 <@Evilpig> should I be worried that notlarry is enroute to my house.  and he doesn't have someone to look over him
15:38 <@Evilpig> make that.  he's there now
15:38 <@Evilpig> enroute, ha ha
15:39 <@brimstone> woah, when did F8 come out? sdodson?
15:41 <@Evilpig> we done?
15:41 <@SkyDog_> Ya know, I wasn't sure how much I'd like having a CCTV feed to the TV in my office until 'amanda' just stretched and yawned. That was an interesting sight.
15:41 <@Evilpig> yeah
15:41 <@Evilpig> sweeet, thanks
15:41 <@ShadowHntr> SkyDog_ : LOL
15:41 <@Evilpig> get off my box now.  buh bye
15:41 <@Dolemite> SkyDog_ : ROFL.  CCTV from where?
15:42 <@SkyDog_> ShadowHntr: I have a 19" TV in the corner of my office that has CCTV feeds for the Wyatt Building.
15:42 <@ShadowHntr> nice.
15:42 <@ShadowHntr> :)
15:42 <@SkyDog_> You could come see it, but you don't wanna come to my neck of the woods.
15:42 <@SkyDog_> <snif>
15:42 <@ShadowHntr> run down building or run down part of town
15:42 <@Dolemite> I'll come visit your neck of the woods once you get a phone and something to keep the beer cold in.
15:42 <@ShadowHntr> or you'd just run me down
15:42 <@ShadowHntr> ;)
15:43 <@Evilpig> you can have beer in your office there?
15:43 <@Dolemite> Officially?
15:43 <@SkyDog_> Sigh. I have a phone, it's just a CELL phone.
15:43 <@Evilpig> yeah officially.  is there any other way?
15:43 <@Dolemite> Let me put it this way...  the Law School has a kegger every Wednesday, and the Business School every Friday
15:44 <@Dolemite> And we have a pub on campus
15:44 <@Dolemite> But we don't condone drinking
15:44 <@Dolemite> Or some sort of silliness like that
15:44 <@SkyDog_> I have a locking cabinet, a locking office and decently cool workmates. I would think it would not be a problem, but not going to breach that issue on DAY TWO.
15:44 <@Evilpig> I was thinking about talking to my boss about putting a bar in back here in the shop
15:45 <@Dolemite> Yeah, I've been here 3 years but I'm not ready to hide six packs under the data center floor yet
15:45 <@Evilpig> Dolemite: why under the floor when you have empty rack space
15:45 <@Dolemite> Colder under the floor
15:45 <@Dolemite> You get my /msg about the RFID integrator?
15:46 <@Evilpig> just get notlarry and dagmar to "fix" up a special rack to be alot colder than the rest and add some shelving
15:46 <@Evilpig> yeah I did.  I will pass that info along tomorrow whenI go down there
15:46 <@Evilpig> they currently use the high volume zebra label printers.  so if tamlin can just update their app to incorporate the rfid tag code for the printer then they'd be set
15:47 <@Evilpig> http://zebra.com/id/zebra/na/en/index/products/printers/rfid.html
15:49 <@Dolemite> Oh, so they're not looking for the tags, just a change to their label that corresponds to the tag info
15:49 <@Dolemite> I thought you were looking for tags
15:49 <@Dolemite> Oh, well, fine.  I'll just go home, then.
15:50 <@ShadowHntr> rfid tags on the labels?
15:50 <@Evilpig> need tags too
15:50 <@Evilpig> that label printer puts the tag on the label as well
15:50 <@SkyDog_> Why is it that I can't find a HP 3600n driver online?!?!
15:51 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: The only thing HR said about that job was if you were caught sleeping on the job it was grounds for dismissal.  Everything else was either encoraged or would involve multiple offences (and reeducation) before you were let go
15:53 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: So, I cleaned up a little, there was a discussion going on in the kitchen and I wanted to snoop and see if it was the screaing bf
15:54 <@Evilpig> did you take your coffee cup off my desk?  i've been meaning to give that back to you
15:56 <@Shadow_Phone> na i stole it
15:56 <@Shadow_Phone> and all yourz coffee
15:57 <@NotLarry> yeah, but I put it in the sink:0
15:58 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?prodNameId=501046&lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=18972&prodSeriesId=501044&taskId=135
15:58 <@Corydon76-dig> ~minilink
15:58 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/hp.com/vhJEL.jsp
15:58 <@NotLarry> damn, looks like the power plug on this laptop is gonna need replacing
15:59 <@SkyDog_> Corydon76-dig: Half of that site won't come across.
15:59 <@SkyDog_> Friggin Vandy network...
15:59 <@Corydon76-dig> which OS do you need the drivers for?
15:59 <@SkyDog_> XP.
15:59 <@Corydon76-dig> 32 or 64 bit?
16:01 <@SkyDog_> 32
16:01 <@NotLarry> Evilpig: I asked Haydeez what I should do about the item I got at the AH and he said "tell the fucker he's a n00b and AH it!"
16:02 <@Evilpig> well yeah
16:02 <@Corydon76-dig> It's not just you.  HP's site is slow as shit today
16:02 <@SkyDog_> Great.
16:02 <@SkyDog_> I think I got it now.
16:03 <@SkyDog_> I was on the wireless network, so I came back into my office and plugged into the network. seems to be better now.
16:04 <@Corydon76-dig> got it, then?
16:05 <@SkyDog_> Almost here.
16:05 <@SkyDog_> Thanks though.
16:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh.  Just got a portable music player.  It came with a remote.
16:13 <@baudburn> g'afternoon
16:14 <@SkyDog_> yo.
16:14 <@NotLarry> Dolemite: you still here?
16:15 <@ShadowHntr> all your coffee are belong to us.
16:22 <@SkyDog_> I think he left.
16:28 <@Mirage> NotLarry: he alrfeady left to get 2.0
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16:40 < MudFlap> SkyDog:  Final ProCurve damage included all ports as well.  That's how you do damage.
16:41 <@Corydon76-dig> You're talking about the flaming switch?
16:42 <@Corydon76-dig> Ring of fire?
16:42 <@SkyDog_> Holy shit.
16:42 < MudFlap> That's it.  Burned out everything but one power module, and it's suspect.
16:42 <@SkyDog_> What did they do to restore your faith in them NOT burning down the office?
16:43 < MudFlap> Guess I'll need a smoke/heat detector on back of cabinet.
16:44 <@Corydon76-dig> integrated halon unit?
16:44 <@critch> is there a write up on what happened to point me to, or could you summarise your problem?
16:45 <@SkyDog_> HP Procurve. Burst of Flames. Torched.
16:45 <@critch> yes, I gathered that, but why?
16:45 < MudFlap> New ProCurve switches, redundant power supply, 6x24 port modules.  Bang/pop/flame office down.  No idea.
16:45 < MudFlap> It took chassis backbone down also, wrecking logs.
16:46 <@Evilpig> noc gremlins got in there and filled it with lighter fluid
16:46 <@SkyDog_> Is HP kissing your ass over that one?
16:47 < MudFlap> Lifetime warranty and they are next daying complete replacements.
16:47 < MudFlap> That one cost'em.
16:48 <@Evilpig> come on 5...  I called in some pad thai and wanna go home
16:49 <@NotLarry> damn, can't create an auction
16:50 <@Mirage> just mail it to my toon..i'll sell it for you..=)
16:50 <@critch> I think Thursday will be Margaritas at work day. The DB server will pass 500 days uptime.
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16:51 <@critch> and more fun for speccing it, it has only used 40k swap in that nearly 500 days up and running
16:54 <@Evilpig> I think it's close enough to 5 that I can go get my food now
16:54 <@Evilpig> later ppl
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17:16 <@Evilpig> well that was weird.  signed onto wow and wow closed right back out
17:16 <@critch> is it maint time for your realm today?
17:20 <@Evilpig> was for everyone today.  it was patch day
17:20 <@Evilpig> I loaded it back up and it worked
17:30 <@critch> crap, maybe I will run home and crank up the patch download before going to get food then
17:30 <@critch> how big was it?
17:32 <@Shadow_Phone> critch: damn critch, save time and put vnc on your machine
17:33 <@Shadow_Phone> for exmaple, i got 4 downloads of midget pron i started from work via vnc
17:33 <@critch> I don't need VNC, I could just use ssh and X tunneling. I don't use windows
17:33 <@SkyDog_> VNC is sooo insecure.
17:34 <@Shadow_Phone> even through a 265bit tunnel?
17:34 <@Shadow_Phone> *256
17:34 <@SkyDog_> Thru a tunnel, it's secure. If not, then it's like swiss cheese.
17:34 <@Shadow_Phone> all my vnc tunnels run through 256bit tunnel
17:35 <@SkyDog_> That's the only way I would have that running.
17:35 <@Shadow_Phone> woot, speaking of, 2 gigs od midgets just finished
17:36 <@Corydon76-dig> Depends upon what encryption protocol is 256 bits.  256-bit XOR isn't that secure.
17:36 <@Shadow_Phone> AES256-SHA
17:36 <@Corydon76-dig> How is it exchanging keys?
17:37 <@Shadow_Phone> RSA-2048 bits
17:37 <@Corydon76-dig> Okay, that's not too bad.  Hopefully the private keys are protected
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17:37 < eryc> protected from who?
17:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Protected from access by another party
17:38 <@Shadow_Phone> yes, they are
17:39 < eryc> dorks
17:39 <@Corydon76-dig> and also hopefully, the encryption protocols are implemented properly.  Most breakins occur due to failures in implementation, not an encryption weakness
18:04 < eryc> you're a failed implementation
18:04 < eryc> :)
18:06 <@Corydon76-dig> EINVALID
18:09 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, explain which part of failed implementation is the most common in this scenario?
18:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, MITM, for example
18:11 <@Corydon76-dig> if you can't detect that, then encryption fails right away
18:11  * brimstone records Shadow_Phone's session and decrypts them later with a stolen copy of his keys
18:11 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
18:11 <@Corydon76-dig> There's another attack
18:11 <@Shadow_Phone> na, the cool thing on the server im using it does the following
18:12 <@Shadow_Phone> 128-to-256 bit SSL end-to-end data encryption
18:12 <@Shadow_Phone> Authorization of host to gateway
18:12 <@brimstone> so it varies?
18:12 <@brimstone> just kinda changes up the encryption halfway through?
18:12 <@Shadow_Phone> Authorization of gateway to host
18:12 <@Shadow_Phone> Authorization of users to gateway
18:12 <@Corydon76-dig> Also, some protocols can be tricked into going to a lower bit encryption stream or even no encryption at all, by the receipt of various well-crafted packets
18:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Authorization or authentication?
18:13 < eryc> i use 2-bit accounting
18:14 <@Corydon76-dig> authorization means you have a valid password.  Authentication means you've identified the party
18:14 < eryc> hahaha
18:14 < eryc> wrong
18:14 < eryc> EFAILURE
18:14 < tzanger> you're a what?
18:15 <@Shadow_Phone> Authentication and authorization of users within the host
18:15 <@Shadow_Phone> Authentication and authorization of users to the host
18:15 <@Shadow_Phone> all fro free
18:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow_Phone: whose implementation?
18:15 <@Shadow_Phone> logmein
18:16 <@Corydon76-dig> open source?
18:16 <@Shadow_Phone> nope
18:16 <@Corydon76-dig> Has the code been verified by a security specialist?
18:16 <@Shadow_Phone> standby
18:17 <@Corydon76-dig> It's very difficult to know that the code is truly secure, even with open source software
18:17 <@Corydon76-dig> with closed source, you're left in a question of trust...
18:18 <@Shadow_Phone> otp, one sec
18:18 <@Corydon76-dig> and hopefully, you have a disinterested third party who can attest to the security of a particular revision... since changing anything in the software may invalidate security determinations
18:19 <@Corydon76-dig> Disinterested and competant, that is
18:21 <@Corydon76-dig> not that something like openvpn is necessarily any more secure, but it's good to know that there are people in tune with security concerns who are examining the software in an ongoing fashion...
18:22 <@Corydon76-dig> It makes the implementation easier to trust
18:22 <@Shadow_Phone> https://secure.logmein.com/wp_lmi_security.pdf
18:23 <@Shadow_Phone> they dont list a specialist
18:27 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, not a disinterested third party
18:28 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, at least its more secure than remote desktop
18:28 <@Corydon76-dig> openvpn is also more secure than just remote desktop
18:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Question is, how do you trust one more than another?
18:28 <@Shadow_Phone> aye, very true as well
18:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Or more specifically, what makes the for-pay solution better than the free solution?
18:29 <@Shadow_Phone> features
18:29 <@Shadow_Phone> remote printing, drag and drop files
18:29 <@Shadow_Phone> sound
18:29 <@Shadow_Phone> support
18:29 <@Corydon76-dig> I can do all of those with other protocols over openvpn
18:29 <@Shadow_Phone> all i have simple workarounds for
18:30 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, except for support
18:30 <@Shadow_Phone> aye
18:30 <@Shadow_Phone> im looking for something simple to save me time
18:30 <@Shadow_Phone> in terms of explanding, changing, whatever
18:30 <@Shadow_Phone> and logmein, just saves me time
18:30 <@Shadow_Phone> installation takes 4 minutes and can be done over the phone with parents
18:30 <@Shadow_Phone> so you can fix stuff on their computer
18:31 <@Corydon76-dig> Security isn't always contrary to convenience, but many conveniences compromise security
18:31 <@Shadow_Phone> true
18:31 <@Shadow_Phone> but i havent seen where security has been affected when it comes to ease
18:31 <@Corydon76-dig> I have
18:32 <@Shadow_Phone> not saying all the time Corydon76-dig
18:32 <@Shadow_Phone> im talking about this vnc product
18:32 <@Shadow_Phone> looks on first glance, pretty trustworthy
18:32 <@Shadow_Phone> never said bulletproof
18:32 <@Corydon76-dig> First glance is when I most distrust security software
18:33 <@Shadow_Phone> hey, everyones diffrent
18:33 <@Corydon76-dig> It's the wide realm of the unknown... and when it comes to security, that's not comforting
18:33 <@Shadow_Phone> if something happens where i dont trust logmein ill let people know, but so far so good and its been 4 months
18:34 <@Corydon76-dig> You also have to consider whether you're a desireable target
18:34 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, a good test would be set up a bunch of diffrent vnc clients on a targetted network without a firewall
18:34 <@Shadow_Phone> and see what happens
18:34 <@Shadow_Phone> Corydon76-dig: na, im just another joe
18:35 <@Corydon76-dig> Shadow_Phone: so the only way you're going to get hit is by accident or simple opportunity
18:35 <@Shadow_Phone> Corydon76-dig: thats about it
18:36 <@Corydon76-dig> That's not exactly comforting, either.
18:36 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, no part of security is comforting
18:36 <@Shadow_Phone> so what are you getting at?
18:37 <@Corydon76-dig> I just don't think it's done anything to enable the level of trust you're giving it
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18:37 <@Shadow_Phone> let me go back to what i just said a minute ago
18:38 <@Shadow_Phone> i never said it was bulletproof or completely secure
18:38 <@Shadow_Phone> as with any other product
18:38 <@Shadow_Phone> but it is more secure than other solutions
18:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Is it?
18:38 <@Shadow_Phone> so thats the level of trust im giving it
18:39 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, Corydon76-dig you know what
18:39 <@Corydon76-dig> How do you know?
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18:39 <@Shadow_Phone> how do u know its not?
18:39 <@Shadow_Phone> no wait, ive said my peace
18:39 <@Shadow_Phone> im done
18:41 <@Corydon76-dig> You've made the claim that it's more secure than other products, and I'm simply asking how you can be sure of that, having no way to verify that.
18:46 < eryc> there is no guarantee any software is secure
18:47 < eryc> making assertions based on past experiences doesn't make software any less secure
18:47 < eryc> its like betting on slot machines
18:47 <@Corydon76-dig> Actually, there is a way to prove that software is secure
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18:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Simply test every possible input and verify that the output is consistent with the specification
18:49 < eryc> practical permutations!
18:49 < eryc> you lose.
18:49 <@Corydon76-dig> The NSA was working on a method of mathematically proving that the Linux kernel is secure
18:50 <@Corydon76-dig> Essentially what they were doing was working on a way to convert the code into a very large mathematical equation
18:50 < eryc> i prefer links to conjecture
18:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Sorry, can't.  I was talking to somebody who was working for them.
18:51 <@Corydon76-dig> He's local to Nashville, though
18:51 <@Corydon76-dig> If you showed up to Nashville meetings, we might be able to introduce you to him
18:52 < eryc> my security detail doesn't operate in that region
18:52 < eryc> i'd have to contract a new firm for protection
18:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Uh huh
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18:55 < eryc> anyway, i'm sure the NSA and its contract companies have many many projects that never get beyond theory
18:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, like SELinux?
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19:00 <@dc0de> evenin all
19:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Here's one of his posts to NLUG:  http://nlug.org/mail/nlug__2002_05/0483.html
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19:32 <@dc0de> uuugh.... don'tcha' hate it when you get a dirty look from a cat?
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20:02 < eryc> Corydon76-dig: seems like a smart guy
20:03 < eryc> that post seems to detract from the previous discussion though
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20:12 <@ware> hey bitches
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20:15 <@ware> http://img.moonbuggy.org/you-have-been-banned-for-the-following-reason/
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20:18 <@timoguin> Corydon76-dig: only in your wildest dreams.
20:18 <@timoguin> well maybe not your wildest... just your regular ones
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20:28 <@ShadowHntr> mmmm k
20:30 <@dc0de> harumph
20:30 <@dasunt> ALSA.
20:30 <@dc0de> TWAIN
20:30 <@dasunt> Yegads, I fear SCSI less than I fear linux sound.
20:31 <@dc0de> dasunt, I fear linux usb->serial
20:31 <@dasunt> dc0de: s/linux//
20:31 <@dasunt> Fixed that for you.  :p
20:31 <@dc0de> heh
20:32 <@dasunt> So anyways, my cheapo card decided to put noise in the left sound channel.
20:32 <@dasunt> So I grabbed a SB Live 5.1 from work.
20:32 <@dasunt> Looked in alsamixer.
20:32 <@dasunt> OMG.
20:33 <@dasunt> Five bazillion devices.
20:33 <@dasunt> Why?
20:34 <@dc0de> because the sb live has shitloads of stuff on it's card
20:35 <@dasunt> Okay, other stupid question -- shouldn't the master volume control both the PCM and the Wave Surround?
20:36 <@Mirage> you'd think, but it doesn't seem to
20:36 <@dasunt> There's a way to make a dummy device in alsa that should control more than once device.
20:36 <@dasunt> At least I think there is.
20:36 <@Mirage> that's a software issue..
20:37 <@dasunt> The sacred scrolls of Alsa seem to indicate as such.
20:37 <@dasunt> But damned if I can figure it out.
20:37 <@Mirage> what are you trying to do?
20:38 <@dasunt> Set it up so that one control controls both my headphones and speakers
20:38 <@dasunt> Headphones are plugged into one jack on the sound card, speakers are the other.
20:39 <@dasunt> So far, 'Wave Surround' controls the headphones, while 'PCM' controls the speakers.
20:40 <@Mirage> dunno, never ran into that problem personallyu
20:41 <@Mirage> surround always worked fine 4.1/5.1 and spdif for me on my old SB Live! and my Audigy
20:45 <@Evilpig> yay for patch day.  server just crashed
20:45 < eryc> that sounds more like a feature
20:45 < eryc> independent volume control
20:45 <@dc0de> Evilpig, a novell server?
20:45 <@Evilpig> wow
20:45 <@Evilpig> novell doesn't crash.  it abends.  ;)
20:45 <@dc0de> ;)
20:45 <@dasunt> eryc: But shouldn't master affect both?
20:46 < eryc> i dont think so
20:46 < eryc> there is a volume per output
20:46 < eryc> master volume is controlling the inputs
20:46 < eryc> er
20:47 < eryc> well whatever
20:47 < eryc> not my sound card :)
20:47 <@dasunt> Master volume controls PCM.
20:49 < eryc> i'm guessing pulse code modulation functions without regard to the number of lit transistors
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20:57 <@dc0de> sup cwire
21:06 <@dc0de> the Governor of GA was praying for rain today... geesh
21:07 < cwire> sup dc0de, was making a sammich
21:07 < tzanger> yeah
21:07 < tzanger> and it rained somewhere else
21:09 <@dc0de> cwire, make me a sammich
21:09  * dc0de is hungry
21:09 < cwire> roast beef and ham on rye
21:10 < cwire> yum
21:10  * dc0de smaks cwire and steals his sammich
21:10 <@timoguin> http://www.eggnogrecipe.net/granddad-eggnog-recipe.html
21:10 < cwire> oh noes
21:10 <@dc0de> damn, doesn't taste as good over irc
21:10 < cwire> hahaha
21:11 < MudFlap> Evilpig: Experience w/Novell on VMware?
21:11 <@ShadowHntr> Novell... those were the good ol' days.
21:11 <@ShadowHntr> i remember when the whole school district ran on a quad pentium 90.
21:11 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr, it's making a comeback
21:12  * ShadowHntr misses the Alpha architecture.
21:12 <@dc0de> was just at a very large healthcare, and they are running groupwise, and eDirectory
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> i liked groupwise
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> it and Lotus Notes kinda started the whole groupware thing
21:12 <@ShadowHntr> Schedule+ didn't quite do it right.
21:12 <@dc0de> tru tru
21:12 < MudFlap> Novell gets jacked up in mornings only on VMWare.  Curious.
21:13 <@dc0de> ShadowHntr, did you ever work with OS/2?
21:13 <@ShadowHntr> dc0de: i always wanted to, but now i may get to dabble with eComStation.
21:13 <@dc0de> not familiar with eComStation... what's that/
21:13 <@dc0de> ?
21:13 <@ShadowHntr> when IBM discontinued development of OS/2
21:14 <@ShadowHntr> Serenity Systems, one of IBM's partners
21:14 <@ShadowHntr> decided to continue development
21:14 <@dc0de> sweet...!
21:14 <@ShadowHntr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/eComStation
21:14 <@dc0de> that's an application server that was way ahead of it's time.
21:14 <@ShadowHntr> it supports current hardware
21:14 <@dc0de> I'm going to check it out...
21:15 <@ShadowHntr> cool
21:16 <@ShadowHntr> well anyhoo
21:16 <@ShadowHntr> i'm gonna head home
21:16 <@ShadowHntr> good talkin to ya, dc0de
21:16 <@ShadowHntr> cheers.
21:16 <@dc0de> thanks for the heads up...
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21:16 <@dc0de> safe home
21:18 <@dasunt> Hmmmmm.
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22:00 <@Corydon76-dig> Evening, freakn
22:01 <@I-MOD> sup Corydon76-dig
22:01 <@Corydon76-dig> not much, you?
22:01 <@I-MOD> you still at dig?
22:01 <@Corydon76-dig> No, this client is my home office
22:01 <@I-MOD> sitting down about to watch heroes w/ brim/gf
22:01 < freakn> woot
22:01 < freakn> that porter I just made is soooooo dark
22:01 <@Corydon76-dig> brimstone has a gf?
22:01 <@I-MOD> indeed he does
22:02 <@I-MOD> she's long and lanky just like him
22:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Will the wonders never cease?
22:02 <@I-MOD> they will
22:02  * I-MOD plots the ceasing of the wonders
22:02 <@Corydon76-dig> Next thing you know, you'll have a wife
22:03 <@I-MOD> that's what i'm vying for
22:04 <@Corydon76-dig> I dunno, you've always seemed to be married to your hobbies
22:04 <@Corydon76-dig> A wife will expect you to give some of that up, you know.  ;-)
22:04 <@I-MOD> gotta give a little to get a little
22:05 <@JimShoe> and you will have to give it up to her
22:05 <@I-MOD> unce
22:05 <@Corydon76-dig> Just look at me.  After I got hitched, my partner made me remove all computers from the bedroom
22:05 <@JimShoe> thats just crazy
22:05 <@Corydon76-dig> I know!
22:06 <@I-MOD> if i get married, the desktops will leave, the laptop stays
22:06 <@JimShoe> when will i look i porn
22:06 <@I-MOD> you won't have to! *gasp*
22:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, the desktops can't leave.  I have desktops in 3 rooms of the house
22:07 <@JimShoe> I-MOD: that means I would only get to see her naked...i think not
22:07 <@Corydon76-dig> I might be able to sneak one into the kitchen, though
22:07 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig, i meant the bedroom
22:08  * I-MOD zones out to heroes
22:08 <@JimShoe> I will have to have a Laptop and TV in the bedroom
22:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Oh, okay.  That's better
22:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, I should watch Heroes, too
22:08 <@Corydon76-dig> Big Bang Theory was hilarious this week, though
22:08 <@Corydon76-dig> the only show currently on with geeks
22:09 <@JimShoe> yea it wasn't ad bad as normal
22:09 <@Corydon76-dig> The series got off slow, but it's improved since
22:10 <@Corydon76-dig> I suppose the fact that the writers are on strike means that the executive producer is writing everything
22:10 <@Corydon76-dig> No great loss
22:10 <@JimShoe> i would guess last nights show was already taped before the strike
22:11 <@JimShoe> it sucks cause soon all we will have are reality shows
22:11 <@JimShoe> like Kid Nation
22:11 <@Corydon76-dig> Ugh, I hate reality shows
22:11 <@JimShoe> yea me too
22:11 <@Corydon76-dig> I watch TV to escape, not to remind me of political crap
22:11 <@JimShoe> lol
22:20 < freakn> anyone in Atlanta want a free intern soon?  I still need something to do ....
22:21 <@Corydon76-dig> What is it that you want to do?
22:33 < freakn> hm
22:33 < freakn> businessy It-ish infosec stuff
22:35 < freakn> multidisciplinary alignment?
22:35 < freakn> "free"?
22:35 < freakn> (need for class credit)
22:54 < freakn> that killed the channel
22:55 <@wizardPC> no, 10:30 killed the channel
22:56 <@wizardPC> anyone in the position to offer you something went to bed about an hour ago
22:58 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: ping
22:58 <@Corydon76-dig> I-MOD: that episode really reversed it the perspective, didn't it?
22:58 <@I-MOD> Corydon76-dig, pong
22:58 <@I-MOD> it did
22:59  * I-MOD waits to see what adam means by "save the world"
22:59 <@brimstone> rsync over ssh should not make the target box's load go up to 10~13
22:59 <@I-MOD> cause i'm sure hitler meant something similar when he was conquering europe
23:00 <@wizardPC> i think he means it the same way magneto means it
23:00 <@I-MOD> yeah
23:00 <@I-MOD> i got that vibe too
23:00 <@I-MOD> the "kill all the normies" way
23:00 <@sdodson> hi
23:01 <@Corydon76-dig> I dunno, the Company is doing pretty well at doing that, by itself
23:01 <@Corydon76-dig> Last week, I think we found out who Patient Zero is
23:01 <@I-MOD> yep
23:01 <@sdodson> of wgat?
23:01 <@Corydon76-dig> So cure Patient Zero before she starts infecting others and the crisis is averted
23:01 <@I-MOD> the plague
23:02 <@wizardPC> the plague on heroes
23:02 <@sdodson> oh nm
23:02 <@Corydon76-dig> unless Maya is the plague
23:03 <@Corydon76-dig> Then it's just a matter of ensuring Sylar doesn't kill Alejandro
23:03  * wizardPC is off
23:03 <@SkyDog_> lates.
23:03 <@Corydon76-dig> 'night
23:11  * I-MOD too
23:11 <@I-MOD> later
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23:59 <@Corydon76-dig> http://m3.bestpicever.com/pics/pic_140228001188880477.jpg  SFW
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