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00:18 <@NotLarry> Well now, this is a fine mess
00:18 <@brimstone> System.mess(fine) ?
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00:25 <@juice> it's cold here 23 degrees
00:55 <@wontonjoe> sounds cold
00:58 <@wontonjoe> this alphadog movie is not too bad
01:04 <@wontonjoe> are the lasers ready?
01:04 <@wontonjoe> oops wrong window
01:06 <@timoguin> hahalozer!
01:06 <@wontonjoe> is that like funnyfailure
01:07 <@wontonjoe> or comediccolapse
01:19 <@Psyiode> i hope Kucinich runs in '12
01:20 <@wontonjoe> whats Kucinich
01:20 <@wontonjoe> ?
01:20 <@Psyiode> democratic runner for prez
01:20 <@Psyiode> im ron paul so far for this election
01:20 <@wontonjoe> ah
01:20 <@wontonjoe> I dont vote
01:20 <@Psyiode> even made my first ever campaign contribution yesterday for Paul
01:20 <@Psyiode> you should
01:21 <@Psyiode> i change my voter registration to rebuplican so i can vote for paul in the primaries
01:21 <@Psyiode> wow i can type well
01:21 <@wontonjoe> you have to register for the party you vote for?
01:22 <@Psyiode> only in the primaries, only in some states
01:22 <@wontonjoe> I should at least learn more about it
01:23 <@Psyiode> AZ happens to have closed primaries so you can only vot ein the republican/democrat/libertarin primaries depending on your registration
01:23 <@Psyiode> not all states are like that though
01:24 <@Psyiode> looks like alabama has open primaries
01:25 <@Psyiode> http://www.ronpaul2008.com/states/
01:25 <@wontonjoe> cool
01:25 <@wontonjoe> one of the hsv 2600 guys is voting for ron paul, ron paul seems ok
01:25 <@brookshire> ron paul is crazy
01:25 <@brookshire> :)
01:25 <@Psyiode> I believe he is someone that we need right now
01:26 <@Psyiode> i definately dont agree with all his views
01:26 <@Psyiode> but, atleast he is not for federal laws banning things not explicity covered in the constitution, and would pass such responsibilities off to states and local governments
01:26 <@brookshire> but he knows digg!
01:26 <@Psyiode> which make ssense
01:26 <@Psyiode> hahah
01:27 <@brookshire> yeah.. only problem is that he really has no power to change any of that
01:27 <@wontonjoe> I just see people vote and then I see the misgivings of these elected officials, and I wonder , how would I feel if i put that much time into a candidate
01:27 <@Psyiode> i dont want somehting to be banned just cuz the east coast happens to support its banning, but most people in AZ support it not being banned
01:27 <@brookshire> if elected
01:27 <@Psyiode> yeah i know
01:28 <@Psyiode> which is actually somewhat relieving to me
01:28 <@Corydon76-dig> brookshire: add me to the security@ email alias?  ;-)
01:28 <@Psyiode> because i know nothing toooo crazy will go on
01:28 <@brookshire> Corydon76-dig: umm..
01:28 <@Psyiode> but atleast we can demonstrate that we can work outside of the "two party" establishment
01:28 <@Psyiode> get people thinking some
01:29 <@Psyiode> maybe get some of our civil rights back
01:29 <@brookshire> Corydon76-dig: done
01:29 <@Psyiode> maybe end the war quicker, stop this nation building shit
01:29 <@wontonjoe> we think within a box
01:29 <@Corydon76-dig> brookshire: danke
01:30 <@brookshire> Psyiode: we stop building, we grow poor
01:30 <@brookshire> duh
01:30 <@Psyiode> uhhh
01:30 <@Psyiode> you do understand that if you made the same ammount of money a few years ago you are making like 30% less now
01:30 <@Psyiode> the dollar SUCKS
01:31 <@wontonjoe> http://www.physorg.com/news63371210.html
01:31 <@Psyiode> now is not the time to see the worl
01:31 <@Psyiode> world
01:31 <@brookshire> sounds like a good time to invest in the dollar then ;)
01:32 <@wontonjoe> we may be able to go back and use our dollar when it wasnt 30% less soon
01:32 <@Psyiode> i want to get paid in canadian dollars, or anything else really :)
01:33 <@Psyiode> well stopping our excessive "defense" spending would be a start
01:34 <@wontonjoe> we could always sit down and talk with other countries and stop fighting
01:34  * wontonjoe misses reagan
01:34 <@brookshire> a quick way to end the war is if everyone protested and didn't pay income tax
01:34 <@brookshire> since something like 75% of what you pay goes to war
01:34 <@wontonjoe> sounds like a good way to owe the irs
01:35 <@brookshire> it's voluntary anyways :)
01:35 <@wontonjoe> oh god, (gaurds! we got a loose one)
01:36 <@brookshire> according to ron paul
01:36 <@brookshire> :)
01:37 <@Corydon76-dig> As I said to wizardPC earlier, be glad it's not your money anymore.  That would give you a moral responsiblity over each innocent civilian those tax dollars kill.
01:38 <@Psyiode> there is no law requiring you to pay federal income tax
01:38 <@Corydon76-dig> Yes, there is
01:38 <@Psyiode> where
01:38 <@brookshire> in the constitution
01:38 <@Psyiode> sure the IRS will come after you, bankrupt you, and eventually get their money, but wehre is the law
01:38 <@wontonjoe> shrug
01:39 <@Corydon76-dig> It's part of the Constitution that the US may impose an income tax
01:39 <@Corydon76-dig> and Congress has, and evading that tax is a felony
01:39 <@Psyiode> the 16th admendmant was an ademendmant
01:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Right, and Amendments become part of the Constitution
01:40 <@brookshire> The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
01:40 <@brookshire> Ratified February 3, 1913
01:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Hence, "Constitutional Law"
01:40 <@brookshire> Amendment XVI
01:40 <@Psyiode> and when it was added the required number of states to ratify it was not met
01:41 <@Corydon76-dig> Psyiode: that argument has been advanced before and the Supreme Court disagreed
01:41 <@brookshire> if you feel like it
01:41 <@brookshire> change it
01:41 <@brookshire> http://www.writetheconstitution.com/wiki/index.php/United_States_Constitution#Amendment_XIV
01:41 <@brookshire> :)
01:41 <@Psyiode> yeah i know
01:41 <@Psyiode> doesnt mean the case cant be advanced again
01:42 <@Psyiode> with a different supreme court
01:42 <@wontonjoe>  even if so, the law does not become a non law until removed from constitution
01:42 <@Corydon76-dig> and you're wrong, btw.  A sufficient number of states ratified it
01:43 <@Corydon76-dig> typos notwithstanding
01:43 <@brookshire> ron paul propagandhi
01:43 <@Corydon76-dig> Psyiode: it's considered settled law
01:43 <@Psyiode> yeah yeah
01:43 <@wontonjoe> just move to another country, i have free flights to any other country and i may just use one one day
01:44 <@Psyiode> well in any case, ron paul is not going to be able to get rid of the IRS
01:44 <@Psyiode> and that is not one of the points that i support him for
01:44 <@Corydon76-dig> "Stare decisis"
01:44 <@Psyiode> in any case, before i even knew of ron paul i was watching documentaires on the IRS and what not
01:44 <@Psyiode> you brought up income tax =P
01:45 <@wontonjoe> I beleive not one of us here would protest no taxes
01:45 <@Psyiode> im just generally pissed off at the government
01:45 <@wontonjoe> arent we all
01:45 <@Psyiode> and the establishment and all their bullshit
01:46 <@wontonjoe> lets start a fourth party
01:46 <@brookshire> there is a third?
01:46 <@wontonjoe> heh
01:46 <@Psyiode> im not much of a politician
01:46 <@wontonjoe> you know so little
01:46 <@Psyiode> ill run your website though
01:46 <@brookshire> the 2600 party
01:46 <@wontonjoe> parallel intentionists
01:46 <@Psyiode> well you have the dems/republicans/libertarians/green
01:47 <@brookshire> we could just own the voting machines and vote for ourselves
01:47 <@Psyiode> too bad cali got rid of them
01:47 <@Psyiode> but im sure they are sitll used all over
01:47 <@Psyiode> lets do it!
01:47 <@Psyiode> echelon just picked me up btw
01:47 <@brookshire> alabama uses them, but we have a paper trail at least
01:47 <@wontonjoe> no parallel intentionists answer there questions before they ask  them and will only take questions from every other party on there apppointed day of the week
01:47 <@wontonjoe> they also strive to loose
01:47 <@Corydon76-dig> You also have to consider that among developed countries, the US has one of the lowest tax rates
01:48 <@Corydon76-dig> Some of the European Union countries have established a 55% (at the most extreme) tax rate
01:48 <@Psyiode> yeah, i really am not prepared to argue about income tax
01:48 <@Psyiode> its not an issue im really focused on or against
01:48 <@Psyiode> they also work way less than us
01:49 <@wontonjoe> I just lie each year, works for me
01:49 <@Psyiode> and have a lot of services provided for them
01:49 <@brookshire> well.. i have nothing wrong with income tax either
01:49 <@brookshire> i just wish it were fare and flat
01:49 <@Psyiode> and dont spend all their damn income tax revenue overseas building up an empire
01:49 <@Corydon76-dig> That's true... so would you be okay with a higher income tax rate if the government provided more services?
01:49 <@wontonjoe> oh god, (BOYS we got a flat taxer over here!)
01:49 <@brookshire> because as is, you really don't make any more.. everyone is even
01:50 <@brookshire> unless you buy a house, or whatever it is the government wants you to buy that year
01:50 <@Psyiode> Corydon76-dig: not with anyone else who is running this year
01:50 <@Psyiode> in the future, sure, i thnk that could work, but i just dont trust either party
01:50  * wontonjoe whistles as he walks off and lets the real conversation continue
01:50 <@Psyiode> i mean, i am a democrat
01:50 <@Psyiode> and generally am for such things
01:50 <@Psyiode> i just cant do it next year
01:51 <@Corydon76-dig> I suspect not trusting the government is why Tennesseans will never let an income tax pass
01:51 <@Psyiode> good for them, i have to pay az out here :(
01:51 <@Psyiode> i hope that trust can some day be restored
01:51 <@Corydon76-dig> Plus we get a sales tax credit
01:51 <@Psyiode> but damn its going to be hard, and wont last for too long
01:52 <@Psyiode> we got away with ~150 years or so the first time around
01:52 <@brookshire> Psyiode: a government will spend what money you give it
01:52 <@brookshire> that's the point
01:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Trust in the government will never happen as long as we have opportunists running for elected legislative offices
01:52 <@Psyiode> agreed
01:52 <@Corydon76-dig> instead of people who vote purely on principal
01:52 <@brookshire> if you don't give government enough money, the figure out how to still function
01:52 <@Corydon76-dig> err, principle
01:53 <@Psyiode> they get their moeny with out an income tax, we just get tax elsewhere
01:53 <@Psyiode> it would also probably help reduce the size of the federal government
01:53 <@Psyiode> leaving states to do their thing
01:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Tennessee has 12 dozen taxes to get around not having an income tax... of course, every other state has most of those taxes, as well
01:54 <@Psyiode> which i also have mixed views on, but the federal government has really overstepped it responsibility in our day to day lives
01:54 <@Psyiode> yeah
01:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Psyiode: for example?
01:55 <@Corydon76-dig> I don't really see the feds that much in my day to day life
01:55 <@Corydon76-dig> Then again, I rarely travel
02:01 <@Psyiode> sry smoke break
02:02  * Corydon76-dig heads off to bed
02:02 <@Psyiode> i dont know...  pot could be an example
02:03 <@Psyiode> that woudl fall under the agreement of states to follow certain federal laws
02:03 <@Psyiode> which i guess is ok, but it seems like states and local governments should be able to mandate the legality of substances
02:03 <@Psyiode> have a good night sir
02:23 <@wontonjoe> denver does
02:25 <@wontonjoe> wanna get high?
02:26 <@wontonjoe> I dont see how denver legally does that
02:26 <@wontonjoe> yup I think quite a few people have me on /ignore here
02:27 <@wontonjoe> \oh wellz
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03:10 <@Psyiode> denver decriminalized locally for up to 1 oz
03:10 <@Psyiode> federal laws still apply though and they can hit you with them if they want
03:10 <@Psyiode> TF2 time
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07:01 < ware> sup bitches
07:01 <@SkyDog_> yo.
07:02 < ware> youre up early
07:02 <@SkyDog_> Yep.
07:02 < ware> or late
07:02 < ware> hehe
07:02 <@SkyDog_> This is true.
07:03 <@SkyDog_> it's early today.
07:03 <@dc0de> mr0nin.... brrrrr
07:04 <@SkyDog_> yup.
07:06 <@GodFix> anyone awake enough for a thinking Q?
07:06 <@dc0de> 29 degrees this am
07:07 <@Pr0nStrGeek> shoot, GodFix...
07:07 <@GodFix> I'm throwing together a quick bandwidth dashboard
07:07 <@GodFix> something for the "executive level" mindset and eyes
07:08 <@GodFix> I want to display data from ntop, without showing ntop
07:08 <@GodFix> specifically the netwrok throughput graphs
07:09 <@dc0de> use cacti
07:09 <@dc0de> or perhaps this would help. http://bobcares.com/article60.html
07:11 <@GodFix> kinda, but want I want to do is show this... http://bobcares.com/images/ntop5.png without the ntop menus
07:12 <@SkyDog_> ing maried means nothign to her
07:12 <@SkyDog_> 16:57:38 <SkyDog_> Sixk.
07:12 <@SkyDog_> fucking right click.
07:13 <@SkyDog_> GodFix: why don't you just pull the graphs out of ntop on the local webpage for Q?
07:14 <@GodFix> that's what I'm trying to do
07:14 <@GodFix> so far it's only pulling static images, not real time changes
07:14 <@GodFix> I think I got it, let me check
07:15 <@SkyDog_> Use a refresh meta tag.
07:15 <@GodFix> nope, didn't work
07:16 <@SkyDog_> Then the graphics are being generated onthe fly when the webpage is opened.
07:16 <@SkyDog_> good luck with that.
07:16 <@SkyDog_> You will need to modify code...
07:17 <@SkyDog_> Don't fuck up the original NTOP code on that box.
07:17 <@GodFix> I'm not gonna edit anything on the ntop box
07:17 <@NotLarry> gimp the image
07:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Oooh, dynamic image generation...
07:28 <@Corydon76-dig> Those were fun to code
07:29 <@GodFix> I think I got it
07:30 < ware> whats the headcount for saturday?
07:30 < ware> and im sure if i bring a ho dole wont mind?
07:31 <@GodFix> it's a little sloppy, but I just copied the code onthe stat page, changed the relative paths and cut out the stuff I didn;t want
07:31 <@GodFix> I can provide about 12 hos for Saturday
07:32 <@GodFix> I won't be there though
07:32  * ware wants to be where the hos is
07:34 <@GodFix> http://nashville.craigslist.com/ers
07:34 <@GodFix> http://nashville.craigslist.org/ers/
07:36 <@GodFix> it sux trying to remember unix cmds
07:37 <@Corydon76-dig> http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=1002
07:37 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: use it more often
07:37 <@GodFix> maybe in my new job i will
07:37 <@GodFix> we're primarily a windows shop
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07:45 <@Dolemite> mr0ning, be0tches and h0ez!
07:45 < ware> OH MAH GAH WAHZ UP
07:45 < ware> Dolemite: can i bring a friend on saturday?
07:46 <@Dolemite> It's a public casino, you can bring whoever you want.  However, if your friend is DoS, we will throw you down in front of the bus and have the driver run over you repeatedly.
07:47 < ware> ahh my friends arent near as annoying as i am
07:47 <@Pr0nStrGeek> Corydon76-dig: http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=821
07:47 < ware> we should be good :D  it was your bday trip, just wanted to axe ya
07:47 <@Pr0nStrGeek> there's one for you...
07:47 <@NotLarry> I need a norton commander type file browser for my linux box, anyone know of one?
07:48 < ware> mc
07:50 <@NotLarry> thanks
07:57 <@brimstone> what are the odds that NotLarry would ask that specific of a question and ware would know the answer?
07:57 < ware> im not a god damned noob!
07:58 < ware> i know a little bit
07:58 < ware> || <- that much
07:58 < ware> also, cocks
08:00 <@Corydon76-dig> You don't know cocks
08:06 <@NotLarry> Corydon76-dig: no, it's "you don't know dick"
08:06 <@NotLarry> Well, I'm a n00b
08:07 <@GodFix> I'm the bigger n00b
08:07 <@NotLarry> speeking of Corydon76-dig, I washed my clothes last night (afternoon) and before I went to bed I dried them for 80 minutes.  Got up just before work to relaize I had dried them on "fluff"
08:08 <@NotLarry> damn, lost a 200g hd:(
08:08 < ware> is it in the drier?
08:08 < ware> dryer*
08:08 < ware> how you spell that shiz
08:09 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: if you like, I can teach you
08:09 < ware> Corydon76-dig: when are you doing another perl class?
08:09 <@GodFix> I prefer to leave my ass "unfluffed"
08:11 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: when enough people bug me
08:16 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: if you find a cute 18yo guy who wants to learn Perl, that's also sufficient motivation
08:18 <@GodFix> Corydon: I can find you an early 20-s guy, but the only perl he's interested in comes as a necklace
08:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh
08:18 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: I never said he had to be gay, just cute
08:19 <@GodFix> Corydon76-dig: I never said anything about gay either
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08:20 <@Corydon76-dig> A 20ish straight guy who likes getting pearl necklaces?
08:21 <@GodFix> did i say he likes GETTING them?
08:21 <@brimstone> man, you're a cocktease huh?
08:21 <@GodFix> ok, so the guy i was thinking of is gay
08:22 <@Corydon76-dig> Anyway
08:22 <@GodFix> if I were a girl or gay, I'd be a MAJOR ct
08:22 < jksdhfak> hi
08:22 <@Corydon76-dig> GodFix: or bi
08:22 <@GodFix> true
08:23 <@GodFix> but I'm neither
08:23 <@Corydon76-dig> There's still hope
08:23 <@GodFix> actually, if I were bi
08:23 <@GodFix> nevermind
08:23 <@GodFix> don't wanna give anyone any hope
08:24 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, you're a tease all right
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08:28 <@GodFix> 8==|) ~
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08:37 <@NotLarry> damn, can't leave y'all unsupervised in here for any period of time at all can we?
08:37 <@brimstone> no, but can you leave some pearl necklaces next time?
08:38 <@NotLarry> brimstone: Don't even talk to me, when I tried to get you to go with me at pn you ran from the elevator
08:38 <@brimstone> i must have been drunk, cuz i don't remember that
08:39 <@NotLarry> does the phrase "want a piece of candy little boy" sound familar?:)
08:39 <@brimstone> that's how daddy says hello
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08:40 <@NotLarry> Haydeez took me to see 30 days of night
08:40 <@Corydon76-dig> Is that the older or the younger?
08:42 <@GodFix> I need to find the scene whores next year
08:45 < ware> GodFix: they arent all theyre cracked up to be.
08:46 <@GodFix> after 6 shots of tequilla, 1 of jack and 2 of 151, does it really matter?
08:46 <@someninjamaster>  if you dont mind getting raped no
08:46 <@ladymerlin> or having a lasting reminder of the night lol
08:46 <@GodFix> well, i didn't get raped
08:47 <@GodFix> and I remember everything
08:47 <@GodFix> from that night
08:48 <@NotLarry> younger
08:48 < ware> first thing she asked me when she woke up was 'is my eye still crooked'
08:49 <@NotLarry> the older has no real interest in scary movies.  He is into zombie survival, but not into watching fiction:)
08:49 < ware> i was like bitch if its been fucked up and lazy for however many years OF COURSE ITS STILL GOING TO BE CROOKED
08:51 <@NotLarry> When I told the Dr. that the only way I was gonna burn more calories was if he made breathing harder he suggested I take up smoking...
08:52 < ware> lol
08:52 < ware> that is no good
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08:55 <@NotLarry> This is the same Dr. that perscribed something equivilent to super viagra to help me sleep
08:55 <@NotLarry> I don't know what his thinking was there, that if I couldn't lie on my belly I might sleep better?
08:56 <@ladymerlin> maybe you were suposed to fuck till you passed out?
08:56 < ware> hahaha
08:56 <@NotLarry> maybe keeping blood out of the brain till I passed out?
08:56 <@NotLarry> ladymerlin: na, i was married at the time
08:57 <@ladymerlin> lol
09:02 <@nachoguy> mr0nin
09:04 <@Fed615> morning all
09:06 <@NotLarry> morning
09:08 <@wizardPC> did anyone else read the thing about some of the TOR exit nodes being owned by the mafia?
09:09 <@wizardPC> ~minilink http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2007/11/how_not_to_use_tor.html
09:09 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/hackszine.com/lwe5x.html
09:22 <@GodFix> $400 for 2 laptops? http://www.laptopgiving.org/
09:23 <@ladymerlin> those things are cool
09:25 < ware> they had one at defcon didnt they? think i remember seeing a pic with skydog holding one
09:26 <@ladymerlin> yeah
09:26 <@ladymerlin> defcona nd shmoocon
09:26 <@ladymerlin> it was jason scott that had it
09:27 <@Dolemite> Hrmm...   May have to go to Office Max on Black Friday...   24" widescreen LCD monitor for $249
09:28 < ware> ~google for black friday
09:28 <+MxZBot> Google says black friday is at http://bfads.net/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(shopping) or http://www.blackfriday.info/
09:28 < ware> you have a preferred black friday tracker site?
09:29 <@Dolemite> I'm looking at http://tgiblackfriday.com right now
09:32 <@Evilpig> woohoo!  look at all the colors! http://firewall.icscci.com:85/usage/graph_35.html
09:34 < ware> quite sexually attractive
09:36 <@GodFix> wow, stealthbox is getting SLAMMED
09:37 < ware> yeah i noticed the cpu usage as well
09:37 <@Evilpig> pretty sure I still have hte distributed.net client running on there
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10:15 < ware> lol cunt dammit
10:16 < ware> ive got a fucking flat mother fucking front tire
10:16 < ware> why the hell does this have to happen now
10:16 < ware> why not wait until the 15th when i can afford this pita
10:16 < ware> WHY MFUCKERS
10:16 < ware> TELL ME
10:16 < ware> BAH I THINK IM GOING CRAZY
10:16 <@GodFix> bcuz u suk bg ft dnky dck?
10:16 <@Dolemite> going?
10:18 <@seeblind> It seems to be a short trip
10:19 <@ladymerlin> heya seeblind
10:22 <@seeblind> heya back, LadyM
10:22 <@SkyDog_> Heya seeblind.
10:22 -!- Corydon76-dig changed the topic of #se2600 to: PN0x0b Presentations Now On Google Video - http://phreaknic.info/pn0x0b/presentations.html for links  || PN Tshirt reorder deadline 11/15 - https://128bit.clickandpledge.com/default.aspx?ID=13754&cid=US&a=
10:23 <@seeblind> SkyDog_: w00f! w00f!
10:23 <@Shadow_Phone> meow meow
10:24 <@SkyDog_> W00f!
10:24 <@Dolemite> w00f!
10:24  * Dolemite is watching the video clip of Tyra Banks talking about vaginas.  Yes, it's a quiet moment at work.
10:25 <@SkyDog_> heh.
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10:26 < wsmith> rofl. I just used "cromulent" in a serious business meeting.
10:29 <@seeblind> anyone have an opinion on cisco 7940 + asterisk phone system.  We are thinking of moving to something similar.
10:35 <@Dolemite> BEST BRITNEY SPEARS PARODY EVAH!
10:35 <@Dolemite> ~minilink http://www.bestweekever.tv/2007/11/06/ron-jeremy-britney-spears-never-eating-again/
10:35 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/bestweekever.tv/6wwgo
10:36 <@Dolemite> NSFA (Not Safe For Appetite)
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10:40 < wsmith> Dolemite: did you do the tounge cameo at -0:32?
10:41 < wsmith> tongue
10:41 <@Dolemite> yeah, that was me
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10:44 < ware> lol i read that url as 'best tweek ever'
10:46 <@nachoguy> well, that was... uhh special
10:48 <@brimstone> seeblind, asterisk is grrrrrrreeeaatt!
10:49 < dc0de> bacteria?
10:49 < dc0de> bacteria is nasty
10:50 <@Shadow_Phone> nachoguy: yeah "special", if thats what you wanna call ware'e ability to repeat stupid and dumbass acts of idiocy, they yeah, hes special
10:50 <@Corydon76-dig> seeblind: are you a Cisco reseller?
10:50 <@Corydon76-dig> seeblind: if not, save yourself the hassle and get Polycom phones
10:51 < ware> i used to have this friend Shadow_Phone til he turned into a big drippy cunt
10:52 <@Corydon76-dig> Trust me.  We're working with a customer who believed that they wanted all Cisco phones, and that's the way they started out.  Now, only the executives still have Cisco phones (for looks, only) and everybody else is getting a Polycom phone
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10:58 < GodFix_> lalalalala
11:01 <@Shadow_Phone> ware: awww, pow babi
11:03 <@nachoguy> The Cicso phones are nice, but not worth the price
11:04 <@nachoguy> at the same price, I might go for the Ciscos.  They suck to upgrade firmware on, but everything else, I like
11:08 < dc0de> The polycoms are less costly, and very nice...
11:12 <@seeblind> Corydon76-dig: No, we are not a cisco reseller but you can get a 7940 off ebay for cheap.  My boss is gungho about cisco.  Do polycoms have the same sound quality that ciscos do?  He has used cisco in the past to it is a hard sell to convince him otherwise.
11:12 <@brimstone> get some polycom 650s :P
11:14 < dc0de> seeblind I've used the polycoms, and I think the sound quality is better than the 7940's, and doesn't have all that cisco proprietary crap.
11:15 <@nachoguy> the 7960s were much nicer phones than the polycom 301s and 501s, but that's about all the experience I have with it.
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11:16 <@ladymerlin> heya MudFlap
11:17 < MudFlap> Howdy again.
11:20 < GodFix_> Grandstream makes IP phones for about $30
11:21 < GodFix_> http://www.grandstream.com/consumerphones.html
11:21 <@seeblind> GodFix_: Price is not the highest priority, sound quality is.
11:22 < GodFix_> the sound quality on these seems to be quite good
11:22 < GodFix_> GCC uses them
11:30 < wsmith> GodFix_ do they still have those god-aweful, cheap-ass huge buttons?
11:31 <@critch> fuck, Japan is now making comercials using the characters from the show you are watching to defeat DVR comercial skipping.
11:31 < wsmith> everytime I used one, i felt like I was going to break it.
11:32 <@nachoguy> http://bash.org/?820509
11:33 <@Shadow_Phone> boo, rest of the week i have to drive into work
11:37 <@nachoguy> Shadow_Phone, as opposed to what, getting flung by a catapult?
11:37 <@Dolemite> He has to go into work and pretend to work instead of stay at home and pretend to work
11:39 <@nachoguy> ah, well, welcome to the real world
11:40 <@Dolemite> And it's not that he can't rub one out at work, too...   but it's just so hard for him to do so at the office while watching gay porn
11:43 <@Shadow_Phone> by gay you mean lesbian pron, then yes
11:43 <@nachoguy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdjJjWOoVQ
11:43 <@Shadow_Phone> the female techs would get quite upset
11:43 <@nachoguy> mildly racist, but funny as hell
11:44 <@Dolemite> No, by gay I mean full on sausage film fest.  We have logs of your downloads.
11:44 <@Dolemite> ROFLMAO
11:44 <@Dolemite> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/11/07/cow.drops.onto.minivan.king
11:44 <@Dolemite> ~minilink
11:44 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/cnn.com/Cbal4.king
11:45 <@Shadow_Phone> Dolemite: sorry, im not familiar with this sausage fetish, sure seems you know alot about it?
11:47 <@SkyDog_> Shadow_Phone: C'mon now. Denying it just makes us all feel bad for you. Embrace it and come clean.
11:48 <@SkyDog_> I mean, corydon is willing to help you get thru it.
11:48 <@Shadow_Phone> nah, im more of a taco man my self
11:48 <@Evilpig> you like mexican men?  what is wrong with regular guys?
11:48 < ware> ass taco
11:48 <@Shadow_Phone> haha
11:48 < ware> you like that hairy man back pussy
11:48 <@Dolemite> He likes it with plenty of Spunkamole
11:48 <@SkyDog_> Well, i am sure that corydon can learn spanish.
11:49 <@Shadow_Phone> ok, i leave your perverted fre@ks to yourselves, ttyl
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11:49 <@SkyDog_> yahooO!!!!
11:49 <@Dolemite> werd, mission accomplished!
11:49 < ware> 11:49 <@Shadow_Ph> heh, not in the mood for that
11:49 < ware> i get shit like that x10 all the time
11:49 < ware> wankz
11:50  * baudburn almost feels bad
11:50 <@baudburn> ... nope.. it's gone
11:50 <@Dolemite> hahahaha
11:51 <@Dolemite> Shadow_Phone proved his gayness when he (a) won the Hacker Hook-Up with "Gentoo Chick" and then (b) left her at the hotel to go drink Guinness at the Sherlock Holmes' Pub with a bunch of guys and (c) without asking her if she'd like to come along.
11:52 <@Shadow404> for the last time, she was already with someone at the con
11:52 < ware> wha?! was she not cute
11:52 <@Shadow404> but yeah
11:52 <@Dolemite> She was plenty cute
11:52 < ware> she was in the hacker hookup for a reason tho
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11:52 <@someninjamaster> morning all
11:52 < ware> pics or shens
11:52 <@Shadow404> no, she was dragged into it first of all
11:52 <@Dolemite> Shadow is the only one that claims she was with someone
11:52 < ware> was taht pn6 ?
11:52 <@Shadow404> and her bf was with her
11:52 <@Dolemite> I talked to her the next morning and she made no mention of someone else, only how lame shadow was for ditching her
11:52 < ware> at the ramada?
11:52 <@nachoguy> ware, more like 8
11:53 <@Dolemite> No, it was at the Days Inn
11:53 <@nachoguy> maybe 7, but it was definately at the Days in
11:53 <@nachoguy> innnnnnnnnnnnn
11:53 < ware> ahh i was at 6 or 7 with the gamers
11:53 < ware> but none of yall had the pleasure of knowing me back then
11:53 <@Dolemite> 6 had the gay-mers
11:54 < ware> there was a hacker hookerup at that one then too
11:54 <@Corydon76-dig> Gee, I could have "known" you back then?
11:54 < ware> Corydon76-dig: "known" me very personally
11:54 <@Dolemite> yes, that was the first year of Hacker Hook-Up
11:54 <@someninjamaster> hacker hookup?
11:55 <@Dolemite> ware : Is that an invitation for Corydon to make up for lost time?
11:55 <@Corydon76-dig> That's what I heard
11:55 < ware> sure
11:56 <@Dolemite> someninjamaster : I hosted a geekified version of The Dating Game
11:56 <@nachoguy> so, did anyone watch that video I posted?
11:56 <@Corydon76-dig> Now we just have to find a time after which you've been tested for STDs and before you've slept with another skank
11:56 <@Dolemite> repost
11:56 <@Shadow404> wait, he keeps sleeping with skanks
11:56 <@nachoguy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSdjJjWOoVQ
11:56 <@Shadow404> i mean look at kho
11:56 <@Shadow404> or that other one he keeps falling for
11:57 <@Shadow404> cant keep track of them
11:57 <@someninjamaster> haha
11:58 < ware> ha. ha. ha.
11:58 <@someninjamaster> we need one of those radio ear tags for him
11:58 <@someninjamaster> to keep track of him
11:58 < ware> so you can see when im sneaking into your house at night to hover over you with a knife and masturbate while you sleep?
11:59 < ware> that would kinda take away the excitement if i knew you knew i was coming again
11:59 < ware> dontcha think?
11:59 <@Dolemite> in more ways than one
11:59 <@Corydon76-dig> ware: did you just admit that you masturbate over guys?
12:00 <@someninjamaster> ware has clearly never seen my house
12:00 <@someninjamaster> i cant even sneak into it
12:01 <@Evilpig> you can sneak into my house.  but if you don't stop at the backdoor you will be heard after that point
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12:03 < ware> Corydon76-dig: not just random guys, only my closest irc friends
12:03 <@someninjamaster> haha
12:03 < ware> err s/just//
12:03 < ware> rofl
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12:04  * Shadow404 worries
12:05 <@nachoguy> Evilpig, so you want ware just inside your back door?
12:05 <@Shadow404> oh wait:  Ware: i used to have this friend Shadow_Phone til he turned into a big drippy cunt
12:06 <@Evilpig> nachoguy: i'm saying I have an old house with squeaky floors.  I don't want ware anywhere near my backdoor and especially not near my house
12:06 <@someninjamaster> im not sure i would say big
12:06 <@someninjamaster> maybe skinny dripping cunt
12:08 <@Shadow404> hehe
12:08 <@Dolemite> Ok, NotLarry and I just watched the first episode of Gorgeous Tiny Chicken Machine Show...   it ranks right up there with Episode 2
12:08 < ware> i like my gonorrhea with a side of pussy
12:08 <@Evilpig> what?!
12:08 <@someninjamaster> ware would know
12:08 <@Evilpig> wtf is gorgeous tiny chicken machine show?
12:09 < ware> someninjamaster: have you ever been laid?
12:09 <@Dolemite> Go to youtube and search for "tiny chicken machine show"
12:09 <@Dolemite> That's pretty much all you need to know
12:09 <@Evilpig> i'm at the chemical plant righ tnow.  can't
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12:09 < ware> lol wtf is this crap
12:10 <@SkyDog_> shadow wanted to watch what we'd say when he left.
12:11 <@Dolemite> same things we say when he's not pretending to be out of the channel
12:11 <@Shadow_Phone> heh
12:11 <@Shadow_Phone> not *everyone* noticed
12:11 <@Shadow_Phone> just most
12:12 -!- Dolemite changed the topic of #se2600 to: We're All Juicy Inside
12:12 <@Shadow_Phone> heh, exchange server went down and it took IT 2 hours to fix it, they are gonna get so much shit from the execs
12:12 <@someninjamaster> doh
12:13 <@someninjamaster> eh it took it here 30 minutes to figure out how to get the output to the projector  working
12:13 <@someninjamaster> off a desktop
12:14 <@nachoguy> Dolemite, do you have the balerina fluid?
12:15 <@someninjamaster> and the answer was restart the machine
12:15 <@Dolemite> We all do!
12:15 <@nachoguy> herro chief itchy balls!
12:15 <@someninjamaster> skydog_ : when are we going shooting again
12:15 <@Dolemite> Herro Lick Poop!
12:16 <@nachoguy> Monkey Sock Hop!
12:16 <@Evilpig> this place is something else.  new guy was hired in inst / elec and they got him a new computer, email account, etc.  and nobody made him an account on the domain or netware servers...
12:16 <@Shadow_Phone> someninjamaster: well, this was a vendor issue via ceryx
12:16 <@Shadow_Phone> sync wasnt working
12:17 <@nachoguy> Knock Knock
12:18 < ware> oh whos there?!
12:18 <@nachoguy> Panther
12:18 < ware> panther who?
12:18 <@nachoguy> Panther not here, I'm going swimming
12:18  * poiupoiu takes gorgeous tiny chicken machine show away from nachoguy 
12:19 <@nachoguy> haha
12:19 <@nachoguy> no
12:19 < ware> *feels breeze thru his golden lochs of hair as that one flys over his head*
12:19 <@nachoguy> poiupoiu, you'll get balerina fluid all over yourself
12:20 <@nachoguy> "golden lochs"?  like scottish for "golden lakes"
12:20 <@nachoguy> apparently after golden showers accumulate, you end up with golden lakes
12:21 < ware> is it locks?
12:21 < ware> I DIDNT GET THE FUCKIN JOKE
12:21 < ware> knock knock
12:21 <@baudburn> who's there?
12:22  * ware knock knocks on nachoguy's door
12:22  * ladymerlin waves to baudburn 
12:22  * baudburn waves back
12:23 <@someninjamaster> baudburn: what do you think of 10.5
12:23 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: i'm a fan
12:23 <@nachoguy> ware, did you watch the youtube video?
12:23 <@baudburn> and core animation is fucking amazing
12:24 <@Dolemite> Retarded Policeman
12:24 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: i jsut completed a capability test program
12:24 <@Dolemite> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yioJQFrqMXM
12:24 <@baudburn> i was able to get 100 thumbnail size movies playing on the screen simultaniously at 25fps
12:24 < ware> i cut it off after 22s
12:24 <@baudburn> and make them scatter, stack, and grid fluidly while playing
12:24 <@baudburn> expose like, with 100 videos
12:25 <@baudburn> fucking amazing.
12:25 <@nachoguy> baudburn, I don't suppose you got screen vid capture of that?
12:25 <@nachoguy> because, that I want to see
12:26 <@someninjamaster> how many lines of code did that take
12:26 < ware> hitmanpro.com anyone?
12:26 <@baudburn> nachoguy: if i had an app to do it, i could
12:26 <@baudburn> but the only one i know if is snaps
12:26 <@baudburn> pro
12:26 <@baudburn> and thatsl ike 22 bucks
12:27 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: let me check the line count
12:27 <@Evilpig> bah.  they made the account and I am getting some weird ass error now.
12:27 <@someninjamaster> i heard its suppost to drasticaly cut the amount of code you have to write
12:27 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: very much so i think
12:27 <@baudburn> all that was in 497 lines of code
12:28 <@baudburn> but i could probably cut it by 1/3rd if i tried
12:28 <@Evilpig> Windows cannot process the object with the name "James Smothers" because of the following error:
12:28 <@Evilpig> Name translation: Could not find the name or insufficient right to see name.
12:29 <@baudburn> nachoguy: you running leopard?
12:29 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: i'd send the test app to you, but it wont run on your machine very well probably..
12:29 <@baudburn> it took 50% of all 4 cores on my mac pro tower to do it
12:29 <@baudburn> and about 350 meg of ram
12:30 <@baudburn> if you're interested, i could make it do only 20.. i dont know what kind of hardware you're running
12:31 <@someninjamaster> right now im in class on a school computer with a linux vm
12:31 <@someninjamaster> i have a macbook pro
12:32 <@someninjamaster> with the santa rosa chipset
12:32 <@baudburn> you could probabaly run it with 20 videos, if you're interested in seeing it
12:32 <@baudburn> 100 will slaughter that thing though heh
12:32 <@someninjamaster> haha
12:32 <@someninjamaster> yeah i would like to see it
12:33 <@baudburn> let me do a quick build with 20
12:33 <@baudburn> its a test app so it's not great, but its a neat demo
12:33 <@someninjamaster> dont worry about it i cant get it right now
12:33 <@someninjamaster> on this network
12:33 <@baudburn> also does text overlay on top of the videos
12:33 <@baudburn> ok, cool
12:34 <@someninjamaster> well time to head to work
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12:39 < ware> slacker
12:39 < ware> my work day is 2 hrs from being over, then ive got 4 hours of school
12:40 <@GodFix> mine is 2 hours from being over, then I've got 6 hours of sweaty sex following
12:40 < ware> you smelly pirate hooker taking away my lvl 10 access gun totin' no drinkin pussy liver 'oh i pulled my back so i cant row' on the canoe trip having mother fucker
12:40 < ware> ill nutslap yo momma and not think twice ho
12:41 <@GodFix> ware: do you need help?
12:41 < ware> nah snm was just peeing in my cheerios
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13:02 <@wontonjoe> http://origin.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_7371123?nclick_check=1
13:04 <@wontonjoe> how come se2600.org shows othing past 2005
13:06 <@Corydon76-dig> Dolemite: ping
13:07 <@Dolemite> pong
13:07 <@Corydon76-dig> Could you readd the link to reorder tshirts/hoodies to the PN site?
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13:15 < ware> http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-GAMERATOR-Arcade-Cabinet-Kegerator-Hybrid_W0QQitemZ300167191737QQihZ020QQcategoryZ13716QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
13:15 < ware> we're getting that for our office :D
13:15 <@Dolemite> ~minilink
13:15 <+MxZBot> http://maxiez.com/l/ebay.com/Mhwif
13:15 <@Dolemite> yeah, those were on BoingBoing earlier in the week
13:16 <@Dolemite> Of course the problem there is that it only has 1 tap, and if you want a beer while some asshat is running the board on Galaga, you have to get in his crotch to pour a beer
13:16 < ware> just go thru his legs from behind?
13:17 <@Dolemite> I'm sure you and Shadow404 would enjoy that kind of arrangement
13:22 <@Evilpig> our office?  does that mean you passed your whiz quiz?
13:22  * Shadow_Phone points at shadow404 and laughes
13:22 <@Shadow404> fu Shadow_Phone
13:23 <@Shadow404> maybe later, might need to rub one out at work
13:23 <@Shadow_Phone> right!
13:26 <@Dolemite> Evilpig : ware bought some "synthetic piss" to use for the screening
13:26 <@Dolemite> Because he's a lewzer
13:30 < ware> i havent had to take one
13:30 < ware> yet lol
13:30 < ware> and i havent smoked in awhile but i dont want to take any chances
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13:31 <@Dolemite> So don't smoke any more and you'll be fine
13:31 <@someninjamaster> and im back
13:32 <@someninjamaster> has ware smoked again
13:32 <@Dolemite> I'm sure the synthetic has a shelf life
13:32 <@Dolemite> have you tasted it yet?
13:32 < ware> i smelt it and it smells like piss
13:33 < ware> its probably some hippie getting his dog to piss in a cup and then he sells it for $35 a pop
13:34 <@Dolemite> The longer it goes the more likely the wild yeasts in it will ferment whatever sugars it can, and you'll end up with piss that says you're an alcoholic
13:34 <@Shadow_Phone> man, you shouldnt trust a hippie's dog to be clean either
13:35 < ware> apparently the shelf life on it is 2-3 years
13:36 <@someninjamaster> hey man my dog ate my stash
13:36 < ware> chong of cheech and chon is gonna be at zainie's this week
13:37 <@someninjamaster> hells yeah
13:37 <@someninjamaster> i wish i could go
13:41 <@Shadow_Phone> man, if you could ever smoke with those two, that would be something to look back to as an accomplishment, though hazy as it would be
13:50 <@someninjamaster> haha
13:52 <@baudburn> bak
13:53 <@someninjamaster> i have always wondered if they had smoked that much weed
13:57  * baudburn headbangs
13:58 <@someninjamaster> headbang w00t
13:58  * someninjamaster starts playing some queen
13:58  * baudburn is cranking In Flames
13:58 <@someninjamaster> never heard it
13:59 <@baudburn> my favorite metal band
13:59 <@someninjamaster> i like dragonforce
13:59 <@someninjamaster> and avenged sevenfold
13:59 <@baudburn> its like what happens when you take iron maiden riffs and mix it with death metal vocals
13:59 <@Dolemite> someninjamaster == emo!
13:59 <@baudburn> its great
13:59 <@baudburn> swedish melodic death metal.. ftw
14:00 <@someninjamaster> how the hell is eather one of those bands emo
14:00 <@someninjamaster> thats like calling metallica emo
14:00 <@Dolemite> True, you can't understand what the fuck they're saying for it to be emotive.
14:00 <@baudburn> when the only thing you should be calling them is "shitty"
14:00 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: you like power metal?
14:01 <@someninjamaster> oh yeah
14:01 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: Blind Guardian is great..
14:01 <@someninjamaster> i heard fintroll for the first time a dew weeks ago
14:02 <@someninjamaster> s/dew/few
14:02 <@baudburn> also, stratovarious.. though i don't know if they're still good but they were like 5 years ago
14:02 <@baudburn> one of the better pm cd's i've heard is thiers.. its called "Visions of europe"
14:02 <@baudburn> double live disc.. freaking great.
14:03 <@someninjamaster> i have three types of music i like
14:03 <@someninjamaster> power metal, ska, and jazz
14:03 <@baudburn> only 3?
14:04 <@someninjamaster> i listen to everything but rap
14:04 <@someninjamaster> but those are my favorites
14:04 <@baudburn> i listen to everything
14:04 <@baudburn> :)
14:05 <@baudburn> i don't really like the rap you hear on the radio
14:05 <@baudburn> but i can appreciate the excellent production quality of those songs
14:05 <@Dolemite> I don't like the _____ they play on the radio
14:05 <@baudburn> i do like hiphop a lot
14:05 <@baudburn> conscious hiphop particularly
14:05 <@Dolemite> baudburn : That's just because you're a G-unit at heart.
14:06 <@someninjamaster> i like the danger mouse type stuff
14:06 <@baudburn> like how BEP used to be.. pre-fergie
14:06 <@baudburn> yeah, that stuff is hot
14:06 <@someninjamaster> the more old school hip hop
14:08 <@baudburn> you should check out in flames
14:14 <@someninjamaster> thats awesome
14:14 <@someninjamaster> i was just checking them out on itunes
14:14 <@baudburn> i like them a lot
14:15 <@baudburn> i've seen them live twice
14:15 <@baudburn> both times they put out so much energy that the crowd left at the beginning of the main act's show
14:16 <@baudburn> because no one could top their raw energy
14:16 <@someninjamaster> haha
14:16 <@someninjamaster> thats pure pwnage
14:17 <@baudburn> yep
14:17 <@GodFix> SkyDog_: WTF? I hate exchange now. All the Qmail and Sendmail serv messages are making it here now
14:17 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: check out the album Come clarity
14:17 <@baudburn> and the album whoracle
14:17 <@baudburn> best song of theirs, imo is called "Episode 666"
14:17 <@someninjamaster> i was just listening to come clarity
14:17 <@baudburn> yeah, its so good
14:17 <@baudburn> and, one of those tracks is on the new guitar hero
14:17 <@baudburn> hehe
14:20 <@Dolemite> You whippersnappers stay off of my lawn while I'm gone
14:21 <@someninjamaster> we will be spraying it with vinegar
14:21  * baudburn pees on Dolemite's lawn from the sidewalk
14:25  * GodFix farts
14:27 <@someninjamaster> baudburn: do you watch metalocalypse
14:27 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: no.. i dont know what that is
14:27 <@baudburn> someninjamaster: if it's on tv, i don't have one
14:27 <@someninjamaster> ahh
14:27 <@baudburn> or rather, i don't have cable.. or an antenna..
14:27 <@baudburn> hehe
14:28 <@someninjamaster> they have the episodes on adultswims website
14:28 <@someninjamaster> its a cartoon show making fun of a metalband
14:29 <@Evilpig> you talking about metalocalypse?
14:29 <@Evilpig> also known as the greatest show on cartoon netowrk?
14:29 <@someninjamaster> yep
14:29 <@SkyDog_> Grrrr.
14:29 <@someninjamaster> sup skydog>
14:29 <@SkyDog_> I think I just fired my first client.
14:30 <@someninjamaster> w00t
14:31 <@Evilpig> skydog that is not the way to make money
14:31 <@someninjamaster> i dont know
14:31 <@someninjamaster> sometimes you have to drop ones that are costing more than you are making
14:31 <@SkyDog_> Yup.
14:32 <@SkyDog_> or those that piss you off and hold a check.
14:32 <@someninjamaster> thats the key to biz
14:32 <@nachoguy> they piss you off, you should piss on them
14:32 <@someninjamaster> skydog_: thats why before we do any work we get a credit card number
14:32 <@someninjamaster> you can pay any way you want
14:32 <@someninjamaster> but we have to have a card number to start a job
14:33 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: I have their external IP, and the admin password to their server.
14:33 <@SkyDog_> Not that I would do anything...
14:33 <@someninjamaster> yet
14:34 <@SkyDog_> Oh, I got my check.
14:34 <@SkyDog_> I just will never set foot in there ever again.
14:34 <@Evilpig> what did they do that was so bad?
14:35 <@SkyDog_> Long story.
14:35 <@SkyDog_> I and a buddy went thru and redid the workflow of a mailhouse.
14:35 <@SkyDog_> I had to rebuild their network/switch setup since it was borked to begin with.
14:36 <@SkyDog_> I had to go by on monday to take a look at it, as their naming convention for ports was screwed.
14:36 <@SkyDog_> I fixed their problem, then Nmap'd the inside and outside. I told them I would make them a network map.
14:36 <@SkyDog_> Of course, I had not charged them for fixing their problem.
14:37 <@SkyDog_> When I went by today, they held my check until I gave them the network map... Which I had emailed an hour previous to me coming by.
14:38 <@SkyDog_> I don't appreciate them holding my check for something that was outside of the scope of the project that I was doing as a favor.
14:38 <@SkyDog_> They don't even know the password to their firewall.
14:39 <@Evilpig> that will be fun for them later
14:40 <@SkyDog_> I don't have it either. It's a symantec firewall. Never seen one before.
14:40 <@SkyDog_> and of course, no documentation on their T1.
14:41 <@Evilpig> circuit id should be on the termination ponit.  what else do you need?
14:41 <@GodFix> IP addresses?
14:41 <@GodFix> our telco here can't tell us anything by circuit id
14:44 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig: I understand that. If the firewall goes down, it will require the fun little call to the telco.
14:45 <@SkyDog_> All of my customers have a network map with the IP ranges for their connection, their firewall IP, etc.
14:45 <@SkyDog_> I call it the bus folder. if I get hit by a bus, the next guy can take over without having to search for info.
14:50  * Corydon76-dig re-aims the bus
14:51 <@GodFix> shutting down and going home now
14:51  * I-MOD ducks
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14:53 < MudFlap> SkyDog: The main IT guy at Barge wants to know more info on HC, say he may have stuff to donate.
14:55 <@Evilpig> I want the world to know if I am hit by a bus they are all going down with me
14:56 <@Evilpig> fuck the next guy.  he was probably driving the bus to begin with
14:57 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: so you'll be sure to wear the plastic explosive vest, so you take out the bus, too?
14:58 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: Sweet!
14:59 <@SkyDog_> MudFlap: Would the URL suffice, or would he like me to stop by and talk to him?
14:59  * someninjamaster yawns
14:59 <@SkyDog_> I'd be glad to do either.
15:00 < MudFlap> SkyDdog: URL fine.
15:00 <@SkyDog_> http://www.hackerconsortium.com
15:00 <@SkyDog_> http://blog.hackerconsortium.com
15:01 <@someninjamaster> today seems like its been a long day
15:02 < MudFlap> Thanks.
15:02 <@SkyDog_> No, thank you!
15:02 <@baudburn> hah
15:02 <@baudburn> dude, this is awesome
15:02 <@baudburn> i like the guys i work with
15:02 <@someninjamaster> uh i dont know if you know this skydog but foozball tables sit horizontal
15:03 <@baudburn> i was just showing a video of led zepplin live to my coworker
15:03 <@someninjamaster> ;)
15:03 <@baudburn> he's like oh yeah, there's jimmy
15:03 <@baudburn> and no page
15:03 <@baudburn> not page
15:03 <@baudburn> he kenw like 3 of the dudes off stage in the video
15:03 <@someninjamaster> awesome
15:03 <@baudburn> yeah, thats just weird
15:04 <@SkyDog_> someninjamaster: It sits horiz when there is space to make it do that. :)
15:04 <@baudburn> so much rock history in this building
15:04 <@someninjamaster> you should find a way to play it on the ceiling
15:05 < remoford> dude
15:05 < remoford> you apparently missed our room at phreaknic
15:05 < remoford> ceiling wii
15:06 <@someninjamaster> i did miss yalls room
15:07 <@someninjamaster> wheres a good place to get step down transformers
15:07 <@someninjamaster> mirage gave me a link but i forgot ot
15:14 < remoford> rhel5.1++
15:14 < remoford> im excited about nfs repl
15:29 <@wizardPC> w00t! might be getting another jeep tonight
15:29 <@critch> is it one from atlanta?
15:29 <@wizardPC> nope, it's here
15:29 <@critch> cool
15:29 <@wizardPC> yeah, no bait and switch shit :D
15:33 <@someninjamaster> doh
15:34 <@SkyDog_> Where the hell did Dole go?
15:34 <@wizardPC> someninjamaster, did I not tell you about that?
15:34 <@someninjamaster> no
15:34 <@wizardPC> its after 3, he went HOME
15:35 <@SkyDog_> He leaves after 4:30.
15:35  * wizardPC thinks skydog hasnt been paying attention
15:36 <@SkyDog_> I wasn't.
15:38 <@wizardPC> i've never seen him after 4
15:40 <@wizardPC> someninjamaster, I called a dealer in atlanta a couple of weeks ago to confirm that they did, in fact, have the 5 cherokees listed on autotrader
15:40 <@wizardPC> when I got to atlanta the next day, I was told "Oh, I'm sorry, we sold *all five yesterday*, but here's this nice grand cherokee for about $4,000 more than your price range
15:41 <@someninjamaster> doh
15:41 <@wizardPC> they still have 2 of those cherokees listed on autotrader
15:41 <@Evilpig> maybe they went to auction with them
15:42 <@Evilpig> alot of the dealers around here do that.  they will plan to put vehicles in the auction that nigh and they are "sold" until they get back from teh sale
15:43 <@wizardPC> I ended up at another jeep shop about 50 miles away later that day and ran into someone else who had the same thing happen to them about a wrangler
15:45 <@SkyDog_> That sucks ass man.
15:45 <@wizardPC> as in, I overheard them complaining about it, not "oh hey that happened to me too"
15:46 <@wizardPC> pattern of abuse
15:46 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I have  a client that wants to see 2girls1cup.com.
15:46 <@SkyDog_> Currently, it's offline.
15:46 <@SkyDog_> Who has a copy of the video?
15:46 <@SkyDog_> Evilpig?
15:46 < remoford> lol
15:46 <@someninjamaster> haha
15:46 <@Evilpig> internetarchive.org
15:46  * wizardPC prpares the EMP
15:46 < remoford> not to be a client much longer
15:46 <@Evilpig> use the way back machine
15:47 <@SkyDog_> Hmm. true.
15:48 <@SkyDog_> No matches.
15:48 <@Evilpig> damn.  can't help ya then.  mirage shoudl have a copy in the cache still
15:48 <@Evilpig> btw 4GB is just not big enough of a drive to run squid and any sort of long term logging on.
15:48 <@SkyDog_> Ouch.
15:48 <@SkyDog_> Probably not.
15:48 <@Evilpig> I can barely keep three months of access logs before it is full
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16:10 < MudFlap> All my nice new proCurves shot out flames and died.  I'm gonna start drinking harder.
16:11 <@SkyDog_> All of them?
16:12 < MudFlap> All.  Good thing I didn't give you the 3Com yet.
16:14 <@SkyDog_> how come?
16:14 < MudFlap> Both redundant power supplies died I suppose.  They were smoking and shooting flames.
16:14 <@SkyDog_> ouch!
16:15 <@someninjamaster>   doh
16:15 <@brimstone> score
16:15 < MudFlap> Don't know the reason.  Been in place for a couple of weeks, no problem.
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16:22 <@SkyDog_> That's just weird.
16:22 <@SkyDog_> Anything we can do for you?
16:24 < MudFlap> I'm back up.  Ripped the unit out and redid 3Com in about 20 minutes.  Will talk with HP tomorrow.
16:26 < MudFlap> Never seen redundant power fail simultanously.  But there's a lot I've not seen.
16:27 <@SkyDog_> heh.
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16:34 <@wizardPC> Those proCurves arent made by Aspect, are they?
16:34 <@wizardPC> or perhaps Sony?
16:36 < MudFlap> Too much smoke to tell.
16:37 <@SkyDog_> Too much smoke. Hmmm. Bad.
16:38 < MudFlap> Designed for PoE, but they were throwing 4 inch bursts of flame.  Just wait till I really need power.
16:40 <@wizardPC> dats bad, mmkay?
16:50 <@brimstone> any perl junkies alive?
16:50 <@Evilpig> I got another round of those halloween skeleton emails today
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16:52 <@brimstone> how would i push a value onto a stack so that it's the next popped off?
16:56 <@baudburn> i'm no perl expert.. but isn't that the definition of a stack?
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17:10 <@Evilpig> I don't get this.  I have a customer that sent out an email with a word doc attached.  the mail server encoded it base64 and somehow replaced the last character of each line with a = and moved that character to a new line.  now I just logged into the same webmail he was using and sent an attachment the same way and my attachment was uuencoded.
17:11 <@Evilpig> why would it make his base64 and mine uuencode?
17:11 <@Evilpig> both attachments were word documents.
17:13 <@Corydon76-dig> Evilpig: quoted-mime versus 8-bit clean
17:13 <@Corydon76-dig> An = at the end of each line is a clear indicator of quoted-mime
17:14 <@Evilpig> that is what it looked like.  but it was a direct attachment I was told.  if that is the case then he tried to forward a message?
17:15 <@Corydon76-dig> Could just be part of his webmail preferences
17:15 <@Evilpig> no such preferences.  I am in the system right now looking
17:15 <@Evilpig> Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=3D"MASA AWARDS.doc"
17:15 <@Evilpig> 0M8R4KGxGuEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPgADAP7/CQAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAPAAAAAAAAAA=
17:15 <@Evilpig> A
17:15 <@Evilpig> EAAAPgAAAAEAAAD+////AAAAADsAAAD////////////////////////////////////////////=
17:17 <@Corydon76-dig> err, "quoted printable"
17:17 <@Evilpig> think I am just gonna push the idea home to that bitch to stop using webmail.
17:18 <@Evilpig> I have the full mail client ready and easily instable on their server.  and she wont' have it.  but it works so much better
17:18 <@Corydon76-dig> Yeah, that looks like a bug in the webmail client
17:19 <@Corydon76-dig> You need not quote attachments, they're already 7-bit printable character clean
17:19 <@Evilpig> she's the same woman that called me last week about this same dude sent out an email and had a random attachment on it.  and again dude was using hte webmail and I told her at that time to stop using it
17:20 <@Corydon76-dig> squirrelmail is stable and relatively bug free
17:20 <@Evilpig> why use webmail if you have a direct connection to the server?  just use the groupwise client.  if the dude wants outlook I have the connector for that too
17:20 <@Corydon76-dig> Well, alternative platforms, possibly
17:20 <@Evilpig> I think he has some virus or some extra bars in his browser fucking up cookies or scripts on that page
17:21 <@Evilpig> groupwise has a crossplatform client as well
17:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Windows CE devices, or Linux, perhaps?
17:21 <@Evilpig> clients for all of the above, palm as well
17:21 <@Corydon76-dig> Blackberry has a web browser now, too, right?
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17:24 <@nachoguy> mudflap, how many of those procurves shot flames?
17:33 <@nachoguy> and what model?
17:33 < dc0de> blackberry has had a web browser for the whole time I've had one...
17:35 <@SkyDog_> Yeah, same here.
17:39  * wizardPC fumes
17:40 <@wizardPC> so that guy I was supposed to meet about a jeep isnt answering his phone
17:40 <@wizardPC> i swear to god if he sold it in the last 2 hours im gonna kick his ass
17:42  * Corydon76-dig prepares the fire extinguisher
17:47 < dc0de> wizardPC that sux
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18:08 <@SkyDog_> wizardPC: let us know. I will get the 'Fellas' together and we'll go pay him a visit.
18:08 <@SkyDog_> Ok, I'm outtie. Back in a while.
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18:11 <@Shadow_Phone> dont ever colo at navisite unles your under sub partner
18:12 <@Shadow_Phone> they farking outsource their NOC to india
18:12 <@Shadow_Phone> women couldnt understand a shipment questions and kept saying which cage do u need a reboot in
18:12 <@Shadow_Phone> i had to spell out my question
18:12 < tzanger> I colo at 151 front in toronto
18:13 < tzanger> I walk into the room and do it myself, or hire a little asian guy to run in there for me
18:13 <@Shadow_Phone> couldnt imagine what i would have to do if i had an emergency
18:13 <@Shadow_Phone> tzanger: this was just a simple shipment question
18:13 <@Shadow_Phone> not a work order
18:13 < tzanger> I understand
18:13 <@Shadow_Phone> took 15 minutes
18:13 <@Shadow_Phone> for her to understand the request
18:13 <@Shadow_Phone> wtf, this is the only place i now that outsources a NOC
18:13 <@Shadow_Phone> wtf
18:14 <@Shadow_Phone> she wouldnt transfer me to anyone else
18:14 <@Shadow_Phone> calling escalation contacts tomorrow after boss writes nasty letter
18:22 <@brimstone> baudburn, that's a queue, not a stack
18:22 <@brimstone> push and pop operate on stacks and i want this to work more like a queue
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18:26 <@Catonic> Mirage: you around?
18:26 <@Catonic> If there anyone on channel that groks pf/ipfilter?
18:43 < tzanger> a little
18:43 < tzanger> how complex are you asking for
18:43 < tzanger> oh wait
18:43 < tzanger> ipfilter
18:43 < tzanger> I thought you said iptables
18:43 < tzanger> sorry
19:00 <@Catonic> iptables and ipfw I grok. ipfilter makes me want to smash my brains out with a gold brick wrapped in a twist of lemon
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19:03 < Synx_hm> ugh this guys laptop is fucked haha
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19:18 < Synx_hm> wtf does pending analysis mean from sav anti virus
19:19 < Synx_hm> did it remove the threat? or is it still there, and sav is not sure what to do
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19:44 <@Corydon76-dig> Heh... http://www.lpsg.org  SFW
19:57 < dc0de> Synx_hm it means that it sees the file as suspect/spyware, and must look at it further to determine what it is...
19:57  * sdodson looks further
20:02 < dc0de> wizardPC any word on the jeep?
20:06 <@sdodson> i smashed my car :(
20:07 <@brimstone> with a potatoe?
20:07 <@brimstone> kinda odd sdodson
20:08 <@sdodson> I found out my car doesn't make 90 degree turns
20:08 <@brimstone> eep!
20:08 <@sdodson> Sadly, it is not a zero turning radius vehicle.
20:22 <@SkyDog_> sdodson: Dude! how'd it happen?
20:22 <@sdodson> Just dumb cut the wheel too hard, it's not major, but it sucks.
20:22 <@SkyDog_> sorry to hear.
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20:52 <@Dolemite> sdodson : Sorry to hear about your car.
20:53 <@sdodson> sup dolemiteheezy?
20:54 <@Dolemite> Not much, just chilling.  Getting ready to watch Bionic Sexiness off of the DVR
20:54 < dc0de> sdodson how bad is the damage?
20:55 <@sdodson> A bit of paint is scraped off, dented maybe 1/2"
20:55 < dc0de> ouch.
20:55 < dc0de> sorry man, that sux
20:59  * sdodson reads release notes for 5.1
21:00 < dc0de> 3Cfuxk
21:00 < dc0de> bbiam
21:07 < dc0de> wheeee.
21:08 < dc0de> ok, Kino rox
21:11 < dc0de> has anyone seen vaneck?
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21:21 <@dc0de> omg... I'm copying this vaneck video to the hard drive... I can't stop laughing
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22:11 < dc0de> wb pig
22:12  * brimstone opens fire on the intruders
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22:12  * brimstone gets overtaken in the flood
22:13 <@dc0de> B3AST
22:13  * brimstone falls over and turns off
22:13 <@B3AST> yo
22:13 <@dc0de> I just dl'd the video from my camcorder from the g33k shoot
22:13 <@SkyDog_> Sup beast?
22:14 <@dc0de> I realize I was not shooting at the black and red target... I was shooting at the white target to the right of yours... :P
22:14 <@B3AST> doh
22:14 <@dc0de> no wonder there were no shots on the paper.
22:14 <@dc0de> anyway, that's a sweet rifle.
22:14 <@dc0de> and I'm off to bed...
22:14 <@B3AST> niteO
22:15 <@SkyDog_> Lates
22:15 <@dc0de> lates.
22:15 <@B3AST> Skydog: Wrestling with this Acer and XP
22:16 <@SkyDog_> The walmart one?
22:16 <@B3AST> yeah
22:16 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: have you seen www.lpsg.org yet?
22:16 <@SkyDog_> nope. what is it?
22:16 <@Corydon76-dig> SFW
22:16 <@SkyDog_> B3AST: What's the problem so far?
22:16 <@Corydon76-dig> SkyDog_: I think you should join up
22:16 <@SkyDog_> HAHAHA!
22:17 <@SkyDog_> Um, they have a gallery?
22:17 <@SkyDog_> I don't even wanna know.
22:17 <@B3AST> Im not just a member Im the president as well
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22:17 <@Corydon76-dig> No, I think most people haven't uploaded pics
22:17 <@Corydon76-dig> There are a few, though
22:17 <@Corydon76-dig> and quite a few straight guys, too
22:17 <@SkyDog_> Sheesh.
22:17 <@B3AST> Skydog: oh just Acer never intended anyone to put XP on, having a hard time with drivers
22:18 <@B3AST> and it seems to want to overheat
22:18 <@SkyDog_> Ah. I had to fight with a sony not long ago.
22:18 <@Corydon76-dig> and women
22:18 <@SkyDog_> Got the drivers from europe.
22:18 <@B3AST> yeah ditto
22:18 <@SkyDog_> Looking at the message boards.
22:18 <@SkyDog_> B3AST: overheat?
22:18 <@SkyDog_> Damn.
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22:24 <@sasquatc4> i still dunno why everyone thinks thats a bad thing, its actually what an os should be doing
22:25 <@sasquatc4> now if it doesnt give up that memory when something needs it, thats when there is an issue with bad design
22:25 <@B3AST> whats that
22:25 <@sasquatc4> the large memory usage
22:25 <@B3AST> oh, no that not what an OS should be doing thats what programs should be doing
22:26 <@sasquatc4> thats why i said, its only an issue when the programs that need the memory dont get it, otherwise the os should be trying to use up memory to precache things
22:26 <@B3AST> hehe like MS knows how to precache and clear memory
22:27 <@sasquatc4> didnt say they implemented it well
22:27 <@sdodson> It's silly not to use every last bit.
22:27 <@sasquatc4> exactly
22:27 <@B3AST> damn wasteful
22:28 <@B3AST> er Thats what VMs are for
22:28 < ware> /topic Get your microdots while you still can!
22:28 < tzanger> microdots?
22:28 <@B3AST> Ware: sorry not interested in your balls
22:29 <@sdodson> VMs?
22:29 <@B3AST> virtual machines
22:30 < ware> it was a joke directed towards teh elder deadheads in here
22:30 < ware> blotter, gel tabs
22:30 < ware> ellis dee
22:30 < ware> bad joke, im gone to bed
22:30 <@sdodson> ya, loser!
22:30 <@B3AST> hehe
22:30 < ware> YOU EATED IT B4
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22:33 <@sdodson> I wouldn't expect decent memory management when doing virtualization unless the host is dedicated 100% to virtualization.
22:33 <@sdodson> Virtualization is a real spanner in the works.
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22:36 <@B3AST> from a business standpoint if I have an employee only working 30% of the time if I can get them to work say 85-90% of the time Id be getting my moneys worth
22:37 <@B3AST> nice sales pitch to PC stupid to sell VMs but it still holds true, especially in an environment where every service has/needs its own server
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